Most Evil Books

[keithy_19]

I was just thinking about how some books are perceived as evil. For instance, Glenn Beck called The Comming Insurrection the most evil book he has ever read. I'm sure a lot of people who read that probably don't think much of it, and wouldn't say it's evil. But throughout history there are definately some books that have that stigma about them.

It's easy to say that the religious books are the most evil since so many evil things have been done in the name of God. But I'm trying to avoid saying the Bible and Torah and Quran are the most evil books.

What says you. What books are evil, and why?

[weekapaugjz]

Mein Kampf

[keithy_19]

Mein Kampf

I guess...

[weekapaugjz]

I guess...

katja?

[keithy_19]

katja?

:lol:

[keithy_19]

I was reading a list of the top ten most harmful books. I did a google search of "most evil books" and clicked on this link. It lead me to a list made by 15 conservative scholars, so it makes sense that they would pick The Communist Manifesto as number one.

[weekapaugjz]

I was reading a list of the top ten most harmful books. I did a google search of "most evil books" and clicked on this link. It lead me to a list made by 15 conservative scholars, so it makes sense that they would pick The Communist Manifesto as number one.

sure it wasn't a link to jezo's gym?

[ChetB]

So you chose Karl Marx's favorite:

[dereckfishboy]

The Satanic Bible. For the most part, it's an unjust reputation though. Don't get me wrong, the entire book is overflowing with carnie bullshit, but it actually gives far more realistic lifestyle advice than anything in the more conventional bible. Bright guy, that LeVey was..... Shame you have to sift through so much garbage to see it.....

[Judge Smails]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oQPm6ryPEz4/SyAwosi91BI/AAAAAAAAAko/3FGbkIY0z3Q/s400/the-berenstain-bears-get-kicked-in-the-dick.jpg













Either that, or Machiavelli's "The Prince".

[keithy_19]

sure it wasn't a link to jezo's gym?

No. That link just had a lot of men in towels squatting.

The Human Events list:

1. The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels

2. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler

3. Quotations from Chairman Mao by Mao Zedong

4. The Kinsey Report by Alfred Kinsey

5. Democracy and Education by John Dewey

6. Das Kapital by Karl Marx

7. The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan

8. The Course of Positive Philosophy by Auguste Comte

9. Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche

10. General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money by John Maynard Keynes

Oddly enough, seeing these books on this list makes me want to read them.

And even more oddly, the Necronomicon didn't make the cut.

[keithy_19]

Just to preface that list, it was for most harmful books of the 19th and 20th century.

[PapaBear]

Dr. Spock's book on child rearing was pretty harmful. He later admitted he was totally wrong about almost everything he wrote.

[keithy_19]

Dr. Spock's book on child rearing was pretty harmful. He later admitted he was totally wrong about almost everything he wrote.

"My own preference, if I had the good fortune to have another son, would be to leave his little penis alone".

What a quote.

[A.J.]

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0684825457.jpg

[Judge Smails]

What a quote.

Don't forget:

"The needs of many outweigh the needs of the few."

Truly, a great man.

[StanUpshaw]

Michelle Remembers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Remembers)
Got the ball rolling on the Satanic cult panic of the '80s and '90s that resulted in bogus trials and hundreds of years of imprisonment of innocent people.

Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_Health_with_Key_to_the_Scriptures)
The foundational text of the Christian Science cult.

Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You to Know About (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Cures_%22They%22_Don%27t_Want_You_to_Know_ About)
Pseudoscientific bullshit from a scumbag conman.

The Secret (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_%28book%29)
The motherfucking secret.

[ChetB]

So you chose Karl Marx's favorite:
fuck it there is no good..

[ChetB]

every
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[StanUpshaw]

What are you babbling about?

[ChetB]

It takes a lot of cash to raise a kid...

[keithy_19]

It takes a lot of cash to raise a kid...

:huh:

[keithy_19]

One thing that kind of throws me is how an idea such as communism can be called evil. Throughout history, communism has been shown to not work. But in a perfect worl communism would. So, the real problem with communism is people. If you eliminate people then communism would work. But if you eliminate the people, then communism wouldn't work. But just because something doesn't work doesn't mean it's evil...

:unsure:

I have no clue what happened there...

[StanUpshaw]

If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.

You know where communism works?

Communes.

That's about it.

[ChetB]

There's no room for Christmas in this place.

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

But in a perfect worl communism would. So, the real problem with communism is people. If you eliminate people then communism would work. But if you eliminate the people, then communism wouldn't work. But just because something doesn't work doesn't mean it's evil...

On paper, communism can work. Unfortunately, Stalin, etl al., all thought death was a great motivator. Sure, it worked for a while, but then human nature took over when [most of] the executions ended. You think a public service worker in the former Soviet Union would bust his ass for anyone else but himself? You have to have a bit of a stake in it for yourself for it to work. You have to give someone motivation.

Unfortunately, the banking industry went unchecked for waaay too long. "A stake" became "entitlement." The bankers are still getting big bucks even after they practically ruined the economy.

If anything, then I suppose I'm a socialist.

[keithy_19]

If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.

You know where communism works?

Communes.

That's about it.

I know that it doesn't work, but why is the idea of communism evil?

[PapaBear]

I know that it doesn't work, but why is the idea of communism evil?
The idea isn't evil. The failed results were. I think if falls more under the category of "damaging", than "evil".

[StanUpshaw]

I know that it doesn't work, but why is the idea of communism evil?

Are we actually putting any stock into the notion of "evil"? I don't really care to. The list you quoted was about harmful, so yeah, there's definitely a pile of bodies at communism's feet.

[keithy_19]

If anything, then I suppose I'm a socialist.

When I was in high school I found myself really relating to the idea of communism. Not relating, I guess, but embracing it.

Granted, I was young and I guess the idea of being a communist made me feel kind of cool and radical. Not sure why really. But if something was considered so wrong, why not rebel. I knew communism didn't work, but still something seemed to draw me to it.

Now, the idea of communism and how it really works makes me sick. People often will say how in America we have a few people running the country. And that's true, to a degree. But the same people will often say we should be more like countries that are socialized.

I see the same idea in socialized nations. There are always those in power and then everyone else.

[ChetB]

I have to get out out of here. Shit, I should get get out of here!:down::huh:

[keithy_19]

Was I high when I started this and subsequently posted?

I don't think I was..Weird.

[StanUpshaw]

Was I high when I started this and subsequently posted?

I don't think I was..Weird.

You started a book thread, for christsakes. What did you think was going to happen?

[keithy_19]

You started a book thread, for christsakes. What did you think was going to happen?

I was more commenting on my ramblings later on in the thread, for gosh sakes.

Apparently there's an evil book that was written by the antichrist called Oriuagor: The One Who Waits. People who read it died or went mad causing copies of the book to be destroyed. It's most likely a myth (of course).

[hedges]

The Catholic Church may consider the books of Marquis de Sade evil.

[Kublakhan61]

Les Chants de Maldoror - Comte de Lautréamont

Some beautiful writing in there, actually it is very well-written, the content is just fucked. Maldoror is a vision of pure evil.

God grant that the reader, emboldened and having become at present as fierce as what he is reading, find, without loss of bearings, his way, his wild and treacherous passage through the desolate swamps of these sombre, poison-soaked pages; for, unless he should bring to his reading a rigorous logic and a sustained mental effort at least as strong as his distrust, the lethal fumes of this book shall dissolve his soul as water does sugar.

or

How sweet it is to brutally snatch from his bed a child with no hair yet on his upper lip, and, with eyes wide open, to pretend to suavely stroke his forehead, brushing back his beautiful locks! Then, suddenly, at the moment when he least expects it, to sink one's long nails into his tender breast, being careful, though, not to kill him; for if he died, there would be no later viewing of his misery.

[keithy_19]

Les Chants de Maldoror - Comte de Lautréamont

Some beautiful writing in there, actually it is very well-written, the content is just fucked. Maldoror is a vision of pure evil.

God grant that the reader, emboldened and having become at present as fierce as what he is reading, find, without loss of bearings, his way, his wild and treacherous passage through the desolate swamps of these sombre, poison-soaked pages; for, unless he should bring to his reading a rigorous logic and a sustained mental effort at least as strong as his distrust, the lethal fumes of this book shall dissolve his soul as water does sugar.

or

How sweet it is to brutally snatch from his bed a child with no hair yet on his upper lip, and, with eyes wide open, to pretend to suavely stroke his forehead, brushing back his beautiful locks! Then, suddenly, at the moment when he least expects it, to sink one's long nails into his tender breast, being careful, though, not to kill him; for if he died, there would be no later viewing of his misery.

Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. I'll have to read that some time.

[midwestjeff]

Anything by Jane Austen.

[keithy_19]

Anything by Jane Austen.

Ouch. Not a fan, huh?

[realmenhatelife]

You may be able to draw the conclusion that communism is inherantly evil. Every time its enacted it seems to turn incredibly oppressive. As a whole we may be too into individualism to sit comfortably under a communal philosophy.

The Turner Diaries could probably make the list for inspiring Tim McVeigh and a bunch of white supremicist violence.

Really there are no evil books because anything you put in a book is completely static. It takes someone to pick it up and read it, then have a reaction, before it can do anything bad. That reaction doesn't come from the book, it comes from the person. All words are innocent and democratic, its the beauty of language.

[KnoxHarrington]

I'd go with Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, because it's convinced so many people that it's OK to not give a fuck about anyone but yourself, and not care about society at all.

Plus, god damn does it suck. Jesus.

[Penelope]

I'd go with Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, because it's convinced so many people that it's OK to not give a fuck about anyone but yourself, and not care about society at all.

Plus, god damn does it suck. Jesus.

Ayn Rand's books are so silly. Bad stories, simpleton philosophy. Self righteous bitch.

[Furtherman]

The Necronomicon.

http://www.dappercadaver.com/images/book.jpg

[Death Metal Moe]

These fucking things are fairly evil:

http://www.westportlibrary.org/teenblog/images/twilight_book_cover.jpg

Fucking drivel.

[Death Metal Moe]

The Necronomicon.

http://www.dappercadaver.com/images/book.jpg

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd188/alien_dna/FireMetalHorns666.jpg

[Death Metal Moe]

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

[Misteriosa]

It lead me to a list made by 15 conservative scholars

The Human Events list:
4. The Kinsey Report by Alfred Kinsey

5. Democracy and Education by John Dewey

i had to read these two works for class. it makes sense that conservatives would find them a problem.

i read portions of the kinsey reports for a Sex Psychology class. it was the first real study done on people's sexual habits, etc. it was really ground breaking work. it was one of the works that actually admitted to the existence of female sexual desire and did not cast it in a negative light.

the john Dewey is a really short read (like less than 100pgs) and it deals with traditional vs progressive education models and how progressive education could be improved. Dewey wants students to play an active role in their education rather than being empty vessels to be filled (the analogy he uses for traditional education models). however he does see merit in some aspects of the traditional model. well, i didnt see anything "evil" in it. maybe its because im not in an authoritative role.

now im really surprised that "pedagogy of the oppressed" by paulo freire is not up on that conservative list.

ok... :o [/nerd]

[Misteriosa]

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

http://www.snarkbate.com/images/cthulhu2.jpg

[hedges]

Klatu
Verata
cough neccough

[JustJon]

http://students.cup.edu/rus2028/catcher.jpg

[keithy_19]

i had to read these two works for class. it makes sense that conservatives would find them a problem.

i read portions of the kinsey reports for a Sex Psychology class. it was the first real study done on people's sexual habits, etc. it was really ground breaking work. it was one of the works that actually admitted to the existence of female sexual desire and did not cast it in a negative light.



I've read parts as well. It was a ground breaking work and it was things that needed to be studied.

On the list they mentioned how a lot of the study really made Kinsey just seem like a pervert, which I guess makes sense.

Also, the fact Kinsey talked about the sexual appetites of very young children caused them to come to this conclusion as well.

In the same light, Freud was an honorable mention.