Why are social services people visiting Dave?

[LordJezo]

He keeps bringing it up, that these people are coming to his house to check on his family.

What's going on here? I've never heard of such a thing except in abuse and neglect situations. Why would they be visiting someone who has a normal at home family life?

[yojimbo7248]

that is such a good question. funny how I heard Dave say that but I didn't question it. Yeah, why is social services involved?

[TjM]

Because he smells

Seriously though all I heard on that tape was a child having fun with her dad

[TjM]

It could simply be a service they are using if they meet the income requirements

[realmenhatelife]

Social workers do a lot of things aside from abused children. He said on the show its a financial service. I imagine related to medical bills.

[Chigworthy]

I'm guessing Dave didn't fill out his census form, and they are in the process of taking the children to a repatriation and reparenting facility.

[ttom925]

If you haven't heard of social services being involved without abuse you haven't been paying attention.
There are many reasons,if your child has a disability (A.D.D.,speech,etc)
If you accept food stamps or other assistance.
In daves case I would assume he is accepting government help for his sick child. This is all it takes for social services to have the right to poke their nose in.

[Pittsburgh]

Maybe its just my naivete, but I find it shocking that there is such a disparity in salary between the lead talent and supporting staff in the radio industry. It would be hard to work next to Dave knowing you made super money and he can barely feed his family.

[TjM]

Maybe its just my naivete, but I find it shocking that there is such a disparity in salary between the lead talent and supporting staff in the radio industry. It would be hard to work next to Dave knowing you made super money and he can barely feed his family.

Edit: Sorry I get what you're saying

[Caseyelan]

Dave uses the word Social Services, but really it's julianna's assistance. When she wasn't walking we decided to call Early Intervention. They come twice a week and work with her and now she is talking/running/crawling up stairs/driving me insane.

[Pittsburgh]

It could simply be a service they are using if they meet the income requirements

Yeah, I can understand they qualify for some kind of social service support due to low income, but WHY are they using the service is the thread question.

[yojimbo7248]

Dave uses the word Social Services, but really it's julianna's assistance. When she wasn't walking we decided to call Early Intervention. They come twice a week and work with her and now she is talking/running/crawling up stairs/driving me insane.

thanks, Casey

[Pittsburgh]

Dave uses the word Social Services, but really it's julianna's assistance. When she wasn't walking we decided to call Early Intervention. They come twice a week and work with her and now she is talking/running/crawling up stairs/driving me insane.

Answered. Sorry.

[Pittsburgh]

Edit: Sorry I get what you're saying

Thanks for the edit, I couldnt figure out what line I had crossed.

[TjM]

Thanks for the edit, I couldnt figure out what line I had crossed.

I thought it was going to be another "How can Fez live with himself making more than Dave" argument

The problem here is two fold. The big money guys put in many years to get where they are. Relativity speaking Dave is just beginning his career as an on air. Also Dave got into the business as it was trending downward

[badorties]

Dave uses the word Social Services, but really it's julianna's assistance. When she wasn't walking we decided to call Early Intervention. They come twice a week and work with her and now she is talking/running/crawling up stairs/driving me insane.

they did that with my nephew last year because he wasn't talking "enough" at age two, now he's a babbling tot that won't stop talking about thomas & friends, disney world and singing awful top 40 ("delilah")

[Pittsburgh]

No, not Fez, but how does management justify the crazy pay packages that gives Oprah 50 million and has Dave saying he and Chris Stanley are "starving".
At least MLB, NFL etc. have minimum salaries that keep even the worst player far away from poverty.

[Misteriosa]

for those who dont know, early intervention helps with speech, physical and occupational therapy for the under 3 crowd :o

there is a service we use here at the agency called Bridges to Health. kind of the same thing, but for older children and teens who have therapuetic needs (read: mental health) or physical issues. the worker comes into the home and engages the client in therapy, takes them out for recreation and accompaines the client to appointments when the (foster) parent cannot.

[TjM]

No, not Fez, but how does management justify the crazy pay packages that gives Oprah 50 million and has Dave saying he and Chris Stanley are "starving".
At least MLB, NFL etc. have minimum salaries that keep even the worst player far away from poverty.

Simply because she's Oprah

[yojimbo7248]

No, not Fez, but how does management justify the crazy pay packages that gives Oprah 50 million and has Dave saying he and Chris Stanley are "starving".
At least MLB, NFL etc. have minimum salaries that keep even the worst player far away from poverty.

hmmmm...I'm hearing some subversiveness here. Are you questioning the fairness and justice of our capitalist system? Has ronfez.net turned into a viper's nest of America-hating lefties?

[Pittsburgh]

Maybe Dave and Pepper should form their own Union and go on strike. Lets see how long the show can go with only scab Fez to hold up the straight man job.

[nate1000]

If you haven't heard of social services being involved without abuse you haven't been paying attention.
There are many reasons,if your child has a disability (A.D.D.,speech,etc)
If you accept food stamps or other assistance.
In daves case I would assume he is accepting government help for his sick child. This is all it takes for social services to have the right to poke their nose in.

And here I thought social services were there to make sure "those people" didn't spent all their food stamps on drugs.

[LordJezo]

Dave uses the word Social Services, but really it's julianna's assistance. When she wasn't walking we decided to call Early Intervention. They come twice a week and work with her and now she is talking/running/crawling up stairs/driving me insane.

Oh.

Well thanks for that.

When you hear social services the thought that comes to mind are the people who decide if you can keep your kids or not because of a bad family life.

But this is way different than that. I was afraid that the government was just stepping in everywhere and taking over families, now I don't have to worry as much.

[yojimbo7248]

Oh.

Well thanks for that.

When you hear social services the thought that comes to mind are the people who decide if you can keep your kids or not because of a bad family life.

But this is way different than that. I was afraid that the government was just stepping in everywhere and taking over families, now I don't have to worry as much.

oh no, you still have to worry. Keep up the vigilance, LJ

[Pittsburgh]

Truth be told, when I first heard Dave say he was being visited my first thought was some Dave hater had ratted him out for one of his crazy stories.

[paulisded]

hmmmm...I'm hearing some subversiveness here. Are you questioning the fairness and justice of our capitalist system? Has ronfez.net turned into a viper's nest of America-hating lefties?

lolz

No, that's only when you discuss the actual topic of the Ant is Mentally Unstable thread...cuz you know only those dreaded "liberals" would ever think he crosses the line sometimes.

[realmenhatelife]

lolz

No, that's only when you discuss the actual topic of the Ant is Mentally Unstable thread...cuz you know only those dreaded "liberals" would ever think he crosses the line sometimes.

Don't you know that Obama wants to make home invasions legal?

[TripleSkeet]

Oh.

Well thanks for that.

When you hear social services the thought that comes to mind are the people who decide if you can keep your kids or not because of a bad family life.

But this is way different than that. I was afraid that the government was just stepping in everywhere and taking over families, now I don't have to worry as much.

Nobdy at the gym today to help you out on that? Better take it light, no excercises where you need a spot.

[Melk]

Dave uses the word Social Services, but really it's julianna's assistance. When she wasn't walking we decided to call Early Intervention. They come twice a week and work with her and now she is talking/running/crawling up stairs/driving me insane.
What does Early Intervention do to encourage walking and talking? Do they use visual aids or videos or special exercise equipment?

[Chigworthy]

When you hear social services the thought that comes to mind...

They've gotten to our last hope. Now Jezo is trying to dictate the thoughts of others. He's been Obamnotized!!

[sailor]

hmmmm...I'm hearing some subversiveness here. Are you questioning the fairness and justice of our capitalist system? Has ronfez.net turned into a viper's nest of America-hating lefties?

years ago.

what i always wondered was why these shows (all of them, from howard on down) don't bargain collectively for their entire show, then pay their own staff what they want. it seems like they do that with the hosts, but i think it would work for the whole team. like, pay us x dollars for the show and we'll take care of whatever staffing needs we deem necessary.

[JPMNICK]

years ago.

what i always wondered was why these shows (all of them, from howard on down) don't bargain collectively for their entire show, then pay their own staff what they want. it seems like they do that with the hosts, but i think it would work for the whole team. like, pay us x dollars for the show and we'll take care of whatever staffing needs we deem necessary.

i always think of the exact same thing, hire them like consultants on a project and let them manage the personal needed to do the show. if they need 10 producers or 3 to make it run, who cares the company never needs to pay another dollar.

[TheSeattleKid]

for those who dont know, early intervention helps with speech, physical and occupational therapy for the under 3 crowd :o


Can we get Early Intervention for Fez? Maybe some elevator therapy?

[Space Edge]

years ago.

what i always wondered was why these shows (all of them, from howard on down) don't bargain collectively for their entire show, then pay their own staff what they want. it seems like they do that with the hosts, but i think it would work for the whole team. like, pay us x dollars for the show and we'll take care of whatever staffing needs we deem necessary.
i always think of the exact same thing, hire them like consultants on a project and let them manage the personal needed to do the show. if they need 10 producers or 3 to make it run, who cares the company never needs to pay another dollar.


Pretty sure shows like Stern and Bubba The Love Sponge do exactly that.

[zildjian361]

for those who dont know, early intervention helps with speech, physical and occupational therapy for the under 3 crowd :o

there is a service we use here at the agency called Bridges to Health. kind of the same thing, but for older children and teens who have therapuetic needs (read: mental health) or physical issues. the worker comes into the home and engages the client in therapy, takes them out for recreation and accompaines the client to appointments when the (foster) parent cannot.

esd is a piece of shit

[disneyspy]

why because he wants to help his children? then you have a full board of pieces of shits here

[StanUpshaw]

Pretty sure shows like Stern and Bubba The Love Sponge do exactly that.

I believe when Howard signed on, he was promised $500 million over 5 years as the budget for his show (including his compensation), but I think all of the employees have to negotiate with Sirius on their own.

In Bubba's case, I think he owns his show and studio, and hires his own staff; he then sells the show to Sirius (and locally).

[Space Edge]

I believe when Howard signed on, he was promised $500 million over 5 years as the budget for his show (including his compensation), but I think all of the employees have to negotiate with Sirius on their own.

In Bubba's case, I think he owns his show and studio, and hires his own staff; he then sells the show to Sirius (and locally).

I forget Stern's exact deal but I have heard Bubba mention his situation a few times last year when he was negotiating with Sirius before he went back to terrestrial. Either way it seems like Sirius/XM is a shitty company to work for and the employees don't get paid much. A lot of the other on air talent from different shows also work on 2 or 3 other channels on the platform.

I don't get the other guy calling Dave a piece of shit?

[hanso]

You sure that wasn't drunk Fez? I keeeedd.

[Caseyelan]

esd is a piece of shit

you are a piece of shit.....
























face.

[opie's twisted balls]

esd is a piece of shit

like the saying goes, you are what you eat

[disneyspy]

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[Lady Resin]

esd is a piece of shit

Just leave them alone. You don't know their situation. Just go and live "YOUR" life. One day you may be going through the same shit.

[StanUpshaw]

I don't share zild's opinion in this instance, but a guy can still be a piece of shit regardless of his personal problems.

[tanless1]

...its no secret I'm not the biggest ESD fan, but even I don't think he's reached the POS level.

[Melk]

years ago.

what i always wondered was why these shows (all of them, from howard on down) don't bargain collectively for their entire show, then pay their own staff what they want. it seems like they do that with the hosts, but i think it would work for the whole team. like, pay us x dollars for the show and we'll take care of whatever staffing needs we deem necessary.
I would worry about that arangement just based off of Howard's unwillingness to stick up for Jackie.

In Chicago, one of the top guys was rumored to be making over a million a year while his third mic was making less than 20k a year.

I could imagine the same situation getting amplified by the top guy being in charge of the distribution.

Radio should have production companies that handle the organization of the show and the hiring of talent. But, they don't.

[yojimbo7248]

you are a piece of shit.....
























face.

ha! so that's where Dave got that brilliant comeback strategy.

[DH 215]

It is not really any of our business when it comes to the private lives of families.

[StanUpshaw]

It is not really any of our business when it comes to the private lives of families.

That would be a reasonable argument, except that Dave has made his private life into fodder for an international satellite radio program.

[Death Metal Moe]

It is not really any of our business when it comes to the private lives of families.

While I do agree with you, whatever is brought up on air is open for discussion.

Maybe we don't have the right to dig deeper, I personally have no interest in trying, but if it's mentioned on air it's fair game on message board. Dave should know that.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Maybe we don't have the right to dig deeper, I personally have no interest in trying, but if it's mentioned on air it's fair game on message board. Dave should know that.

The problem with this is:

1) Dave lacks a filter (and God bless him for that)

2) There are a bunch of savages on these boards that hate Dave and will rail him for anything they can

3) Part of the show now is how crazy dave is. So if you slap a muzzle on Dave, you then take a piece of the show away.

[sailor]

The problem with this is:

1) Dave lacks a filter (and God bless him for that)

2) There are a bunch of savages on these boards that hate Dave and will rail him for anything they can

3) Part of the show now is how crazy dave is. So if you slap a muzzle on Dave, you then take a piece of the show away.

yeah, we need more board censorship.

[zildjian361]

Case im sorry :innocent::innocent:

[Tenbatsuzen]

yeah, we need more board censorship.

Not sure if you were being facetious or not, I wasn't saying that was needed, but there's a difference between "common decency" and "censorship".

[Lady Resin]

I REALLY hope that Dave did shower and lose the bet. His family comes first. I feel so bad about Stan.

[Melk]

1) Dave lacks a filter (and God bless him for that)
He probably should have a filter for his own good.

2) There are a bunch of savages on these boards that hate Dave and will rail him for anything they can
They lack filters.

Why must the listeners be better than the on-air talent? It is much easier to ask the individual on-air to behave than it is to ask the many listeners to behave. Don't feed them and they won't feast.

3) Part of the show now is how crazy dave is. So if you slap a muzzle on Dave, you then take a piece of the show away.
Dave was, for the most part, hated when he began working on the show. The pro-wrestling-style hatred many of the fans had for Dave worked in his favor when he got over during his Midnight Rider gimmick.

The fans' reaction to Dave is part of what makes the show work with him on it.

Billy Staples and Al Dukes were much more hated than Dave is.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Billy Staples and Al Dukes were much more hated than Dave is.

Absolutely incorrect. Dukes was polarizing, but nowhere near Dave's level. Hell, Earl was more hated than Dukes. And Staples was generally well-regarded until the end when his drinking got the better of him.

The mouth breathing listeners took Dave-hate to a new level of viciousness.

[TjM]

Absolutely incorrect. Dukes was polarizing, but nowhere near Dave's level. Hell, Earl was more hated than Dukes. And Staples was generally well-regarded until the end when his drinking got the better of him.

The mouth breathing listeners took Dave-hate to a new level of viciousness.

I dunno Fez seems pretty hated these days.

[Serpico1103]

I used to hate esd. When he started he would run in, scream, make no point, then get kicked out. Now I love esd. When he runs in, screams, makes no point, gets kicked out, it's gold.

[tanless1]

Was not a fan of the midnight rider, perhaps if he'd spent more time on the oral interpritation. Come to think of it, easily 65% of my negativity for dave , comes from his tonality.
.....eaasy Hop-sing, still not a POS, he would certainly benifit from listening to some frank lovejoy , or even the green hornet, the third man.

Radio talent as a whole has deminished over the last 40 years.

[tanless1]

....consider stacey keach's twilight zone reinterpritations. The vocal talent lacks the natural'ness....and staceys dad had a solid career in radio drama's.
Some of this may stem from the over support/encouragement as opposed to solid direction/comprehinsive critquing.

[tanless1]

...this really has little to do with this thread.

[Melk]

The mouth breathing listeners took Dave-hate to a new level of viciousness.
Well, they certainly aren't the ones calling the show. That is unless saying, "Fez, what does cum taste like?" or "Fez is crying. May I have a prize?" or "Fez Whatley? More like Fag Cumzie!" is code for "I hate Dave."

I think Fez is paranoid, but only to an extent. He is often pig-piled upon when he brings up a topic on the air.

Which do you think will happen first?

1) Fez gets "better."

or

2) Dave joins AA.

[Furtherman]

The question in this thread has been answered. The family is going through enough right now and we don't need speculation on something that is none of our business. Case closed.