Breaking Bad

[jimmyolsenblues]

I was so happy to see Bill Burr on last night's episode.

[KnoxHarrington]

I was so happy to see Bill Burr on last night's episode.


I totally would have laid down on that pile of money too.

I wonder how much Kuby and Huell took. They probably could have taken a million dollars each and it would have never been missed. Walt seemed to admit as much when he said "Close enough" to them.

[sailor]

I totally would have laid down on that pile of money too.

I wonder how much Kuby and Huell took. They probably could have taken a million dollars each and it would have never been missed. Walt seemed to admit as much when he said "Close enough" to them.

The look between them was the giveaway.

[TripleSkeet]

I just finished episode 3 from Season 3 and I can honestly say Ive never hated a TV show character more than I do his wife. Im sitting here wishing the mexican cartel would cut that ungrateful cunt of a woman into pieces.

[Kevin]

I just finished episode 3 from Season 3 and I can honestly say Ive never hated a TV show character more than I do his wife. Im sitting here wishing the mexican cartel would cut that ungrateful cunt of a woman into pieces.

She ranks up there with Ray Donovan's wife as the worst.

[TripleSkeet]

She ranks up there with Ray Donovan's wife as the worst.

Right? It seems like a prerequisite now that the wife of each main character has to be an ungrateful vindictive twat. Dont forget the bitch from Boardwalk Empire. Shes right up there too.

[Kevin]

Right? It seems like a prerequisite now that the wife of each main character has to be an ungrateful vindictive twat. Dont forget the bitch from Boardwalk Empire. Shes right up there too.

Yea seriously.

How are you shocked that he gets his money doing bad shit?

HOW are you affording that house and cars and jewels?

He isn't a ball player, Lawyer DR CEO

awful.

[realmenhatelife]

I've always been a staunch defender of Skyler. She's the humanizing character for Walt.

[TripleSkeet]

She just got done telling her lawyer that he doesnt have much time to live. Then he shows her a bag of money and says "This is college tuition for the kids. This is physical therapy for your son. This is the mortgage for the house which you will not be able to afford if I die." She knows this is true, its pretty obvious why he did what he did. And how does she reply? By fucking another guy and coming home and telling him. Thats humanizing? Its probably the most cruel and inhumane thing Ive seen on the show so far, and thats pretty fucking amazing considering.

Maybe its just me and the way I look at life, but to me, the only thing that in my eyes makes Walt look even remotely bad is the way he treats Jesse. I dont have a problem with anything else. Killing drug dealers that tried to kill him, cooking meth, flipping out at his wifes job, none of it. Although when he tried to hit on the principle of the school that was painfully awkward.

[realmenhatelife]

She just got done telling her lawyer that he doesnt have much time to live. Then he shows her a bag of money and says "This is college tuition for the kids. This is physical therapy for your son. This is the mortgage for the house which you will not be able to afford if I die." She knows this is true, its pretty obvious why he did what he did. And how does she reply? By fucking another guy and coming home and telling him. Thats humanizing? Its probably the most cruel and inhumane thing Ive seen on the show so far, and thats pretty fucking amazing considering.

Maybe its just me and the way I look at life, but to me, the only thing that in my eyes makes Walt look even remotely bad is the way he treats Jesse. I dont have a problem with anything else. Killing drug dealers that tried to kill him, cooking meth, flipping out at his wifes job, none of it. Although when he tried to hit on the principle of the school that was painfully awkward.

For starters, I'd rather have my wife cheat on me than be chained up, murdered then dissolved in acid. Thats just me. But Walt also has betrayed Skyler by lying to her about their options and lying to her about the decisions he's making. Walt is using the health and safety of her two children as leverage to force her into a relationship she finds morally abhorrant. And all for the sake of 'saving' what they have. To save their marriage and his life he has to utterly anihilate it. That is immense betrayel.

The thing that's great about this show is how it explores moral relativism as a real evil. Every little thing Walt does is no big deal, but it all escalates the wrong shit he's doing. Cooking meth is wrong but he can rationalize it and that wrongdoing becomes his new baseline. So the next wrong decision you make is only a little bit worse than a little bit worse, not a little bit worse than good. A few steps down the line you're already so far removed from your original set of morals you're doing things that day 1 Walt would've found completely impossible to fathom.

And it shows how it's not just Walt playing with Walts life. He's impacting Jesse, Skyler, Walt Jr, Hank, Marie and all these other people. Then those people start impacting people too. And Hank is the lynch pin who started it all.

So Skyler gets a bad rap because we're not on her moral relativism ride, we're on Walt's.

[sailor]

Jesse's the most hatable character, just ahead of the wife.

[Jujubees2]

Jesse's the most hatable character, just ahead of the wife.

What are you taking about. Walt, Jr., is the worst. Insufferable. Followed by that whining baby.

BTW how did Walt bury all those barrels in the desert and then was able to perfectly fill in the hole without having a pile of dirt left?

Also, did Walt mean to leave that book in the bathroom for Hank to find? Walt seems to calculated to commit such a silly mistake.

[sailor]

Large surface area - cemeteries are still flat.

I don't think he ever thought it could be traced back to him. It really is a stretch for hank to tie it together. It's also Walt's arrogance; he wouldn't have kept it around if it wasn't for how Gale looked up to him.

[realmenhatelife]

Large surface area - cemeteries are still flat.

I don't think he ever thought it could be traced back to him. It really is a stretch for hank to tie it together. It's also Walt's arrogance; he wouldn't have kept it around if it wasn't for how Gale looked up to him.

I dont think it's that much of a stretch because alls Hank needed was to realize that Walt and Gale had met to make all the other circumstantial evidence he had suddenly become relevent. If they had set it up that Hank spontaneously knew Walt Whitman that would be tough, but they had remarked on it a bunch up to that point.

[sailor]

I dont think it's that much of a stretch because alls Hank needed was to realize that Walt and Gale had met to make all the other circumstantial evidence he had suddenly become relevent. If they had set it up that Hank spontaneously knew Walt Whitman that would be tough, but they had remarked on it a bunch up to that point.

He made a connection based on initials in a random book

[realmenhatelife]

He made a connection based on initials in a random book

The notebook had a quote from Whitman which was identified for Hank. Leaves of Grass used the same WW initials, sentiment and handwriting in the inscription. Walt already had called attention to it when he looked at the notebook with Hank.

[sailor]

The notebook had a quote from Whitman which was identified for Hank. Leaves of Grass used the same WW initials, sentiment and handwriting in the inscription. Walt already had called attention to it when he looked at the notebook with Hank.

I think we're arguing different points. I'm talking from the point of it not originally being a mistake for Walt to keep the book around. It's only after other random shit happening that it be and an issue. (Regardless, the fact that hank stole the book, rendering it useless as evidence, shows hank thinks it's a stretch. Weakest of circumstantial evidence that MIGHT prove they KNEW each other.)

[realmenhatelife]

I think we're arguing different points. I'm talking from the point of it not originally being a mistake for Walt to keep the book around. It's only after other random shit happening that it be and an issue. (Regardless, the fact that hank stole the book, rendering it useless as evidence, shows hank thinks it's a stretch. Weakest of circumstantial evidence that MIGHT prove they KNEW each other.)

Yeah I'm saying that in the structure of the show it is not a stretch for Hank to infer that WW is Walt is Heisenberg. From Walt's POV I agree that it is both hubris to keep a book that connects you to Gale and also not as obvious a risk of being discovered.

[sailor]

Yeah I'm saying that in the structure of the show it is not a stretch for Hank to infer that WW is Walt is Heisenberg. From Walt's POV I agree that it is both hubris to keep a book that connects you to Gale and also not as obvious a risk of being discovered.

Agreed, hubris caused his hamartia.

[thepaulo]

What are you taking about. Walt, Jr., is the worst. Insufferable. Followed by that whining baby.

BTW how did Walt bury all those barrels in the desert and then was able to perfectly fill in the hole without having a pile of dirt left?

Also, did Walt mean to leave that book in the bathroom for Hank to find? Walt seems to calculated to commit such a silly mistake.

The digging in the desert was so funny. I can't even imagine how many hours went into that. Getting rid of the extra dirt is not a problem in the desert. And does he really think Skyler is going to find that money if he dies even with GPS and map coordinates? That money's a time capsule now.

[JimBeam]

"I'll send you to Belieze."

That was a great line.

I've always been a staunch defender of Skyler. She's the humanizing character for Walt.

Totally disagree here. She my be one of the worst humans because she knows what's going on and still acts like there's no problem.

[joeyballsack]

Skyler is a saint compared to that klepto sister of hers.

[TripleSkeet]

Alright I stopped reading when I realized there were things being referenced that I havent caught up on yet. Personally I like Jesse. Hes a good guy who just keeps making mistakes that frustrate the shit out of you, because you know he can do better. Especially once he had his money. As someone that has a brother and cousin that act like this I have to say the kid playing him is doing a pretty incredible acting job. Thats exactly how these assholes are.

I like the son too. I dont know why, I just think hes a cool kid. But so far Hankand Saul are my favorite. Both are hilarious.

As far as Skyler goes, heres my reasoning for the way I feel. As a father, I put the safety and well being of my family, especially my kids, over morals. I know, it may make me a bad person, but thats how I feel. Family over anything and everything else. Period. I dont give a fuck what the laws say, what other people think, nothing. Until someone chips in to pay my bills theyre opinion of me as a person means dick. This bitch would rather he leave her and her kids with a house they couldnt pay for and no money for their future than take a risk and lie to her for awhile. I understand being mad about the lying but once they were in the clear (so they think anyway) she shouldve gotten the fuck over it. Not go fuck another guy out of spite. Theres no justifying that.

Theres plenty of crimes I have no problem doing, but I dont because I dont want to go to jail. Bookmaking, loansharking, even selling drugs to adults. Personally I feel these are victimless crimes. But because our government says theyre against the law, that makes them wrong? Bullshit. But you could bet your ass if I had a year to live and my family had alot of debt I would do any and all of them to try and make as much as I could to ease their burden when Im gone. Its easy for people to judge when they arent the ones dealing with the problems. Mortgage companies dont take payments in moral values. Fuck that. Id rather my kids had a house.

As far as the killing goes, like I said Im only a quarter way thru season 3, but everyone hes killed has tried to kill him first. In my eyes, its completely justified. You try and kill me, then your death is on your hands. I dont see anything wrong with that at all.

[newport king]

Jesse's the most hatable character, just ahead of the wife.


Walter Jr. AKA Flynn.

[JimBeam]

Bookmaking, loansharking, even selling drugs to adults. Personally I feel these are victimless crimes.

This isn't the thread for a discussion like this but I think the show itself is showing how what we think are " minor " crimes actually are far from victimless.

Sure you may think that an adult w/ no family to worry about smoking pot is harmless but it's about what happened to get that pot to the end customer.

People robbing and killing each other over territories is worng no matter how you look at it.

Some may say if you make drugs legal it'd take away all of that but that's simply not the case. People will always be fighting for a bigger slice of the pie and with that would come very much victimfull crime.

I imagine it happens with legal entities too. There are stories of Coke doing business, indirectly, with groups that bust up unions, violently, in other countries.

So if that's true the Coke a person may drink could've come at the cost of somebody else's life.

[TripleSkeet]

This isn't the thread for a discussion like this but I think the show itself is showing how what we think are " minor " crimes actually are far from victimless.

Sure you may think that an adult w/ no family to worry about smoking pot is harmless but it's about what happened to get that pot to the end customer.

People robbing and killing each other over territories is worng no matter how you look at it.

Some may say if you make drugs legal it'd take away all of that but that's simply not the case. People will always be fighting for a bigger slice of the pie and with that would come very much victimfull crime.

I imagine it happens with legal entities too. There are stories of Coke doing business, indirectly, with groups that bust up unions, violently, in other countries.

So if that's true the Coke a person may drink could've come at the cost of somebody else's life.

Im sure they do. But thats kind of how I look at it. If a robs money to get pot, thats not the dealers fault. If someone loses his house because he lost all his money betting on football thats HIS fault, not the bookie. There are millions of people out there that can gamble or do drugs socially without it ruining their life. Why shouldnt someone provide these people a service because of the assholes out there that cant handle it? It would be like making alcohol illegal to get rid of drunk driving. Its a poor mentality but because the law says its bad, alot of people just assume anyone that does these things is an evil person.

I agree that killing and hurting others over turf and other things is wrong. But the act of providing a service for someone that wants it is victimless.

[Jujubees2]

‘Breaking Bad’ vehicles, including Walter White’s Pontiac Aztek, are headed to auction (http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/walter-white-pontiac-aztek-article-1.1467199#ixzz2g0MtW9R2)

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[realmenhatelife]

It drives me crazy that people dont like the fly episode.

[newport king]

‘Breaking Bad’ vehicles, including Walter White’s Pontiac Aztek, are headed to auction (http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/walter-white-pontiac-aztek-article-1.1467199#ixzz2g0MtW9R2)

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Id want the RV if it came with bullet holes

[KnoxHarrington]

Id want the RV if it came with bullet holes

If I had that RV, any time someone knocked on the door, I'd yell "This is my own private domicile, and I will not be harassed...BITCH!"

[deliciousV]

If I had that RV, any time someone knocked on the door, I'd yell "This is my own private domicile, and I will not be harassed...BITCH!"

:lol:

[thepaulo]

Bumping this now cause it's all over now, baby blue.

[thepaulo]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1715288/breaking-bad-alternate-endings.jhtml

[Jujubees2]

AMC announces premiere for 'Better Call Saul' (http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/2014/01/12/amc-announces-premiere-for-better-call-saul/5pdEnby03rl2ZPCp7GkvwO/story.html)

[Jujubees2]

He better call Saul!

Illinois meth-maker busted wearing ‘Breaking Bad’ T-shirt (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ill-meth-maker-busted-wearing-breaking-bad-t-shirt-article-1.1702641)

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