Marvel vs DC?

[The Blowhard]

Although I liked Superman, I was always a Marvel guy, especially "The Mighty Thor" and "Spiderman".


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[skullcrush]

marvel by far.lets see dc come out with something like carnage

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[hndsmepete]

MARVEL by a lot. DC is crap minus the new Green Arrow written by Kevin Smith. My favorite Marvel books are: Deadpool(mixes humor & violence,a damn good book especially the first 30 issues), Wolverine(The best its been in years. Back to the bloodthirsty,adamantium laced Wolverine.), Punisher(Ennis' Punisher is the absolute sickest. Look for his work on Preacher, a very twisted Vertigo/DC book.), Uncanny X-Men(This month the absolute final Magneto appearance. Buy it & the X-Men books last month for the Eve Of Destruction storyline), Mutant X (check it out, a pretty cool series starring Havok in a screwed up world where heroes are villains & vice versa.)Spiderman has been pretty good lately, maybe the better writing is so they don't kill off the franchise while the movie being made (it has been pretty bad for a year or two). They need some good tie-ins big time, the X-Men movie's tie-ins were shitty. Check out CHAOS! Comics, they make the best horror comics around. Evil Ernie, Lady Death, Chastity, Homicide(my little used name on the O&A board), Smiley the Psychotic Button(Evil Ernie's sidekick that got spun off in his own series of one shots), Purgatori & a number of other cool characters. Chaos books are pretty bloody & can be pretty graphic. Their most screwed up comic out now is Insane Clown Posse. Best Marvel characters: Venom, Carnage, Sabretooth, Deadpool & Apocalypse.

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[The Blowhard]

Iron Man rocked.

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[adolescentmasturbator]

There is no doubt that Marvel wins. That is why the entire franchise shows up in a fighting game and DC doesn't.

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Marvel has the greatest super
hero EEEEver in Spiderman and
they are much cooler
anywayz!!!!


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[Gvac]

Without a doubt, Marvel,
although I haven't read them
in years. Can anyone update
me on Black Goliath, Omega the
Unknown, 3-D Man, and the Jack
of Hearts?

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[JustJon]

From the 70's to early 90's, Marvel. When Marvel went for style over substance in the mid 90's, the books turned from suck to blow. At the same time, DC was changing to more mature storytelling. So now, the only Marvel books that are even comprehensible without a roadmap to 30 years of continuity are the Ultimate line. So I now read 3 Marvel books, a few indies and the rest DC.

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[Carter]

I liked one comic book... Preacher

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[JustJon]

Preacher was a really good series, but the last story arc was kinda weak.

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[The Joker]

Spiderman is the best he rules!
Fuck DC the stink. They have the crapest super heroes.

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[Captain Rooster]

Wolverine, Collosus, Spidey, Night Crawler, Punnisher,

I have to go with Marvel...though Superman is my all time favorite

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[WALRUS]

Well older dc comics are great like old batman and superman but then they started to get really lame with their stories like there is 6 supermans or something like that marvel has some really creative idea's


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[IkeaBoy]

Marvel definitely. They came out with more popular characters, better characters and had better storytelling (at least in the past). Superman was always overrated. He had it too easy and very, very few powerful villains. Batman is much better but MArvel is still best.

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[Gvac]

I haven't bought comics in about 20 years, but when I did collect I was an avid Marvel fan with a few DC titles that I liked. Can anyone recommend any? I'll go buy a stack for old times sake.







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[HordeKing1]

You can't beat Superman if you want your heroes indestructable, kick ass and with the greatest number of cool powers.

You can't beat Batman for a well written profile of the dual nature of a psyche in torment.

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[WALRUS]

Yea the horde king is right about super man and batman anyway thats what i grew up with since my dad was a avad colector

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[The Blowhard]

I always liked "Krypto", Superboy's dog. I would have him kill on demand, and make him go fetch a Brink's Truck.

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[Se7en]

The timeless debate!

If you're talking about best overall publisher, DC has truly iconic characters, and they've given us the greatest / coolest comic character of ALL time - Batman. But most of their characters can be too iconic, and lack a human quality to them. Marvel's characters are all personal, and have that human side to them. Marvel gets the edge, I think, since their characters and stories are a bit more real, in the sense that the plots are built upon characters who we can somewhat relate to.

But if your asking about comic book quality, Marvel wins this hands down. For most of the 90s, Marvel sucked the meat missile rather emphatically, but ever since Joe Quesada was named EIC (and actually a bit before that, it started when he was hired to do their Marvel Knights lineup), the company has consistently put out a fantastic product. They go out of their way to hire some of the best writers / artists in the business today, and the results are paying off. Slowly but surely, the comic business, which many had predicted was in its death throes, is making something of a comeback. DC, on the other hand, remains largely on cruise control with their stories (with the notable exception being the Batman titles, as it seems the creative folks behind that line are never afraid to do innovative and shocking things to keep the product fresh and interesting), and the result is something almost akin to stagnation. As the knock against DC goes, the company exists now solely to develop comic properties to be exploited by their parent company, Time-Warner.

And that is your comic geek editorial for the day.

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[furie]

Marvel had better characters.

DC had better story-lines.



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[THERAVEN]

Bendis + Marvel= More gooder

[crow]

My two favorite characters are wolverine and batman so its tough to say. Currently I read more Marvel titles. The Ultimate title and Green Arrow are the only titles
i really anticipate nowadays.

[IkeaBoy]

I still say Marvel. They created more gooder characters. Pretty much all of DC's great characters fit in the Justice League while Marvel itself has like tons of groups of all great heroes (X-Men, F4, Avengers sort of)


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[jafter]

Without a doubt Marvel. The Avengers (Iron man, Thor, Captain America, Scarlett Witch, Vision), X-men, Fantastic Four, Spidey, ...

Definitely better than batman, aquaman, wonder woman..


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[Green Lantern]

I like DC comics althought I like spiderman and X-men

[DarkHippie]

It depends on who garth ennis is writing for.

I swear, it's not contagious!

[The Blowhard]

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[charlierock]

although marvel comics are good ,,,,,,,,,,,,BATMAN STILL ROCKS!!! .............NO SUPERPOWERS ..JUST CASH AND GADGETS AND KNOWLEDGE, IS ALL HE NEEDS


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[Hoojibs]

I always liked Spiderman because he was a superhero with everyday problems, trying to pay the rent and such. I like Batman because he is Batman, who else could take down the whole Justice League if he had to. I was a big fan of X-Men, especially Cyclops and Archangel when he still had the metal wings, and Gambit although I kinda stopped reading comics a while ago. Some must reads for any comic fan?

Watchmen
Dark Knight Returns
Kingdom Come



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[Brooklyn Stroonze]

Marvel with out a doubt. They had the hotter chicks! <P>
Namor rules! <P>

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[Se7en]

I've burnt out a lot on the X-Men because they're always presented as the "racial minority seeking equality".

It doesn't really work as an analogy to modern day racism / prejudice, cause the X-Men are flying around on leerjets and living in a big mansion spending Prof. X's money.

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[The Blowhard]

I hope they make a "MIghty Thor" movie, but please, no Dolph Lungren!

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[THERAVEN]

Can anyone update
me on Black Goliath, Omega the
Unknown, 3-D Man, and the Jack
of Hearts?


I don't know about the rest but 3-D Man I hear became a famous porn star.

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[furie]

Last I heard, Jack of Hearts was killed in a Silver Surfer storyline. that was back in '95 i think....


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[The Blowhard]

Anybody know the next Marvel film project?

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[Freeze]

Marvel is much better then d.c. Who the F is oqua man. I dont know how marvel went bankrupt though

[ToddEVF]

Marvel had better characters.

DC had better story-lines.


Very true. But DC has had some classics. such as the Thundercats and Lobo. Oh well, I lost this one.

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[Green Lantern]

I seem to flip back and front for DC to Marvel. But I seem to like DC a little more than Marvel.

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[DarkHippie]

DC has always had supes and batman to bank on, but other than that there is a serious drop off in quality (except for Hitman, which was the greatest comic EVER!!!)

Marvel is consistant in quality all over, and the fact that the titles often crossover to one another creates a universe that feels "more real" to the reader.

besides, who's cooler than spidey?

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[furie]

Anybody know the next Marvel film project?


Next to be released is Daredevil early 2003, followed by Hulk.
After that, X-men 2 i think...

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[TheKnicks23]

marvel, at least the video games had the cooler characters

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[Captain Rooster]

Fantastic 4 should have a movie.

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[schmega]

the batman animated series is probably one of the best tv shows ever. it's dc's crown jewel: a self-made(with lots of old money) hero placed in great storylines done with style and substance.

but batman's got nothing on the xmen. the cartoon was/is mediocre, but the comics were incredible. its got the most compelling cast of characters in the comic universe. the movie was probably the best if not THE best comic movie ever made, and the sequel looks just as promising.

spiderman's cool too, but he gabs like a chick.

[JerryTaker]

I was a huge Marvel fan until I got tired of the phenomenon of, "we need to sell more books, kill off a character, it's ok we can always bring him/her back later" Cyclops was the last straw, I knew he wouldn't stay dead, and it was pointless, so I gave up on Comics altogether....

Though I'm giving the new Transformers book half a shot....

but I never really bothered picking up a DC book, I also thought Marvel was much beter with intergalactuic stories, which peaked with the Infinity Gauntlet, as far as having consistent other-worldly characters...

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[The Blowhard]

Fantastic 4 should have a movie.


I agree. The fat ugly chick from "The Facts Of Life" can play Ben Grimm.

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[Johnny4]

The Fantastic 4 movie is in production. I am not sure if it has been cast yet. I would take Marvel over DC also. D.C has the Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig of comics(Supes and Batsy), but the Marvel characters are as a whole better. I gave up comics for a while when the Spiderman storyline was destroyed( cloned by a third rate villan)But recently I have read the long awaited Origin of Wolverine which I thought was great.

[furie]

The fat ugly chick from "The Facts Of Life" can play Ben Grimm.


which one?

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[The Blowhard]

Fantastic 4 should have a movie.


Agreed.

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[Reephdweller]

I believe they're working on a Fantastic Four movie.

Also the Hulk movie is coming out this year.

Does anyone know if they're still making that Batman vs Superman movie?

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[Heady Nugs]

Marvel totally rocked. Ghost Rider was my favorite. Also my friend informed me that they are definately making a Fantastic 4 movie

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I always loved Marvel...it always had better characters than DC.

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[furie]

originaly they were going to do a Silver Surfer movie, but scraped the idea when they realized it would be too heavy with CGI. I'm hoping they do the Galactus storyline for the FF movie.

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[samnyc]

I've been collecting for 12 years now and DC never much appealed to me. The only DC books I've remember buying are Punisher/Batman, some Miller Batman work, Death of Superman, and some Authority -- if you want to count that.

I grew up the Fantastic Four and came to appreciate the fantasy offered by Marvel and mostly rejected DC's more harsh atmosphere (Vertigo, Batman). Some good creative teams at Marvel really made the difference -- I really enjoyed JM DeMattheis/Bagley on Amazing Spiderman and Hama/Kubert on Wolverine. Now I like Morrison on New X-Men and generally like Bendis, but he is way too overexposed at the moment. With Rucka/Robertson coming Wolverine may once again become a great book.

The biggest change for me regarding comics in the past year has been that I no longer go to the comic shop every week to keep up, but I rather buy as much as I can in trade format.


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[Bill From Yorktown]

Marvel. Hands down.
- xmen
- fantastic 4
- spiderman
- Avengers
- some 1 offs (Machine Man,Micronauts,Alpha Flight)

(admittedly the Batman/Superman stuff on tv these days is pretty good too)

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[jratt]

with out a doubt make mine Marvel it was atuff couple years but last year was the greates in at least 10 years.you have alias by M Bendis what a great book i think it was issue 3 that luke cage the getto hero was doing jessica doggy style and you see her face all crunched up like a he was hung like a giant.the new x-men every issue gives some new twists with all the new students that are totaly messed up looking and all the crazy plot lines one of the best..the punisher is great with the russian that got his body redone with parts from and old lady both sick and funny....wolverine is back to being great....daredevil great...spiderman i have never been a big fan of....the ulatimates great you get to see ant man beat the wasp in some domestic abuse......now DC i just bought the superman that is only 10 cents i couldnt even read the hole thing supes sucks....thats all i have to say about that....

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[furie]

sam, you have to understand that DC used to be great. they really had some ground breaking storylines, as did marvel. both companies now suck in my opinion, which is why i've stopped collecting. I feel they simply ran out of ideas.

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[INFOSTUD]

Marvel Comics wins hands down. DC's characters suck! <P> Marvel gives their character good dimension. For example, Tony Stark aka Ironman was a raging alcoholic in many issues. <P> Spiderman is tormented by the lose of his Uncle Ben because had Spiderman used his powered he could have prevented his death. <P> Thor falls in love with a mortal. <P> Plus, the Marvel Superheroes have the coolest powers. <P> Captain America is the heart and soul of America. <P> <P> <P>

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[CaptClown]

Fantastic 4 should have a movie

There was a movie made, but it was so bad it will never see the light of day. I believe it came out right around or before the time of the Captain America came out and did it's disappearing act.

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[INFOSTUD]

You can buy the Fanastic Four movie on eBay or comic book shows. I haven't seen it, but I'm told it sucks.

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[furie]

i saw it. it does indeed suck. It's worse than the Punisher movie.

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[phixion]

marvel would kill DC. i mean DC's flagship hero SUper-Man has every single friggin power ever. he friggin sux. and DC's heroes were all one dimensional. i mean we grew up with peter parker. teen to young adult to a legend. and what about the villains? has DC ever come up with a good villain? joker? okay compare joker to carnage just let those two go at it. does joker even have time to breathe? i dun think so

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[JustJon]

I own a copy of the FF movie. The origin is good, but everything looks cheesy and the rest of the story isn't very good.

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[bigbaldirish]

only dc characters i ever liked where batman (you gotta admit, the stories are dark like marvels are) and green lantern, i just like the idea of that character, there is one on every planet who owns a ring like that.
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[Lucento]

I recently got into the new xmen story set in the present with the charicters updated. Ive been enjoying it and looking forward to the next issue. When the XMen and Spiderman movies came out, it revitalized my interest. I dont know why but DC never really did it for me, I always found Marvel more believable and entertaining. I was into Cerebus for a while, it was an independant publication that was very funny and had alot of hidden jokes in it.

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