View Full Version : Turning Fezlemons into Fezzinade
helterskeletor
04-22-2010, 09:15 PM
I thought Fez took some decent steps toward playing a bigger role in the show in the last couple of shows but was shut down pretty quickly by Ron. Usually I agree when Ron shuts him down, but there were a couple of times where I think Fez added some decent material.
I'm starting this thread because in my mind and occasionally on this forum I do nothing but criticize and run down a show that I really love rather than thinking about angles they could take or ways Fez could improve his current role and hopefully gain back his spot. It's much easier to be a critic than to be constructive.
First, I liked Fez's recommendations for Rothlesburger from other athletes and I was sort of annoyed that it wasn't given more props. It just kind of landed with a thud. Second, I liked the fact that he had all these naive love questions for Lilly, although he should have made himself responsible for coming up with all the questions and bringing them in. I really think that is the great Fez angle now and he should have more convos about this with Ron. His weird, 50-years-too-late search for "love" is a hilarious topic to me and I wish they'd exploit it more.
Rather than just shutting Fez the fuck down, I think Ron could run with this. Step one would be to plan a decent bit allowing Fez to come out of the goddamned closet already. Everyone knows now anyway and Fez should have done this at the Thanksgiving show two years ago but what can you do. I still think it would be powerful for him to simply declare "I'm gay" on the show. Next step would maybe be to have someone from OutQ to come in and make him uncomfortable. The process of forcing him to confront himself has been interesting in the past. Imagine Fez meeting someone, having the honeymoon period, and then getting his fucked-up heart broken. Holy shit would that make for great shows. He'd probably have to drop the therapy first though. It seems to take up most of his personal time.
Does anyone else think Fez would bring a lot more to the show if he actually came to the show with stories of his awkward and horrible dating experiences? I think it would make for a face-blasting long-running storyline.
Or maybe I'm a ham and egger, rube, seed, etc...
Hell, I get a sick pleasure out of Ron putting Fez in his place anyway.
dereckfishboy
04-22-2010, 09:22 PM
Honestly, how can you blame everyone for being conditioned to write off the shit he says as inane. Sometimes the dumbest or craziest guy in a social group makes a really great point and you still laugh at it and rip on him because that's just what you've become used to doing when he says something. It's great that he's trying, but he spent years whether Ron into reacting this way. Ingrained behavior like that is going to take more than a few good shows to reverse.
StanUpshaw
04-22-2010, 09:38 PM
It seems like I was going through all this shit a year ago on Stern.
I just hope Fezzie doesn't decide to stab himself in the guts.
Honestly, how can you blame everyone for being conditioned to write off the shit he says as inane.
I can blame Ron for writing-off Fez when he considers Fez's "freezing up" and "crying" as continuing problems.
instrument
04-23-2010, 12:38 AM
Step one would be to plan a decent bit allowing Fez to come out of the goddamned closet already. Everyone knows now anyway and Fez should have done this at the Thanksgiving show two years ago but what can you do. I still think it would be powerful for him to simply declare "I'm gay" on the show. Next step would maybe be to have someone from OutQ to come in and make him uncomfortable.
saying this makes you look like you have no idea whats going on, you do realize that fez's issues with coming out of the closet have to due more with disappointing his parents..... or lets just be honest, MOTHER... having some big bit on a show..where everyone knows the f'n secret is the dumbest thing i've ever heard and would in no way help the issues he's having...unless..his parents/siblings etc. were in studio.
and i'm sure he'd fake some chest pain and pass out just like earl if that did happen.
Listening to Thursday's episode. Dave tried to make lemonade out of Fez's tears today.
I have no sympathy for Dave because he pushes the same kind of buttons in Fez that would motivate him to want to murder his wife if she did the same thing.
helterskeletor
04-23-2010, 01:01 AM
saying this makes you look like you have no idea whats going on, you do realize that fez's issues with coming out of the closet have to due more with disappointing his parents..... or lets just be honest, MOTHER... having some big bit on a show..where everyone knows the f'n secret is the dumbest thing i've ever heard and would in no way help the issues he's having...unless..his parents/siblings etc. were in studio.
and i'm sure he'd fake some chest pain and pass out just like earl if that did happen.
It would be a breakthrough for him.
Wait, are you his therapist?
dereckfishboy
04-23-2010, 05:02 AM
I can blame Ron for writing-off Fez when he considers Fez's "freezing up" and "crying" as continuing problems.
He's got a right to be fed up, he has problems of his own, not the least of which has been the added stress of spending years filling up 90% of a show to which he has an equal partner. While Fez's personal problems have been affecting his ability be an equal part of a show host, Ron's had to take on the bulk of the responsibility of keeping the show afloat. That's a lotta extra grief to deal with for a handful of months, much less years. At some point, no matter how much he loves the guy, it should only be expected than he be bitter about having the amount of focus each of them put on their career be so lopsided.
Serpico1103
04-23-2010, 05:05 AM
It would be good to have the outQ guys on. Then they coulkd take fez out a few times, introduce him to the scene. After each outing have them come back and describe fez's success or failure. I do agree with ron that fez's need to come out is strange because he hasn't embraced his sexuality yet. Go on dates, have relationships, then worry about coming out. Also, coming out will not cure the panic.
Chigworthy
04-23-2010, 05:08 AM
It seems like I was going through all this shit a year ago on Stern.
If you were not actually on Stern, you may be taking radio shows you listen to too seriously. I suggest a hiatus, for your peace of mind.
yojimbo7248
04-23-2010, 05:14 AM
It would be good to have the outQ guys on. Then they coulkd take fez out a few times, introduce him to the scene. After each outing have them come back and describe fez's success or failure. I do agree with ron that fez's need to come out is strange because he hasn't embraced his sexuality yet. Go on dates, have relationships, then worry about coming out. Also, coming out will not cure the panic.
great idea. I remember someone wrote a few months ago about Fez doing a "Report from the Village". I also like the idea of having outQ guys on, it could be "Queer Eye for the Has a Secret Guy"
Devo37
04-23-2010, 05:16 AM
maybe if every f'n caller wasn't some a$$hole rube who calls up to bash fez non-stop...
the xm callers are pieces of sh!t for the most part.
do they even screen calls anymore????? i'm guessing if you call up and say, "i'm gonna ask fez what cum tastes like", you get put straight on the air. :furious::wallbash:
dereckfishboy
04-23-2010, 05:17 AM
It would be good to have the outQ guys on. Then they coulkd take fez out a few times, introduce him to the scene. After each outing have them come back and describe fez's success or failure. I do agree with ron that fez's need to come out is strange because he hasn't embraced his sexuality yet. Go on dates, have relationships, then worry about coming out. Also, coming out will not cure the panic.
Yeah, perfectly put. I don't get that either. At this point I don't know that I'd even say he's gay so much as just attracted to men. I'm attracted to black women, but I've never dated one, so I've never had to worry about what my old fashion grandma might say about it. Shame he doesn't relax about how someone will accept him for what he hasn't even done yet, and focus more on how to be sexual first and how people cope with it after there's something to actually cope with.
Serpico1103
04-23-2010, 05:18 AM
great idea. I remember someone wrote a few months ago about Fez doing a "Report from the Village". I also like the idea of having outQ guys on, it could be "Queer Eye for the Has a Secret Guy"
Maybe they could convince fez to drop those horrible hawaiian shirts. Take some of that therapist money and splurge on a wardrobe, it will probably do more good.
dereckfishboy
04-23-2010, 05:24 AM
maybe if every f'n caller wasn't some a$$hole rube who calls up to bash fez non-stop..
I can't fault anyone for being pissed about that, but all the same I really doubt he'd have made any more progress had the callers been gentle all this time. It obviously doesn't help, but his progress is severely slow-paced an incremental. I fail to see how the callers share blame (scumbags though they are). Besides, Fez is an adult. No one put a gun to his head and said he has to be on this platform. He can start taking the necessary steps to end the whole thing if it truly is emotionally crippling to him.
CountryBob
04-23-2010, 05:28 AM
Wait - Fez is gay?
dereckfishboy
04-23-2010, 05:31 AM
Wait - Fez is gay?
In a "bad at sports" kind of way
booster11373
04-23-2010, 05:37 AM
maybe if every f'n caller wasn't some a$$hole rube who calls up to bash fez non-stop...
the xm callers are pieces of sh!t for the most part.
do they even screen calls anymore????? i'm guessing if you call up and say, "i'm gonna ask fez what cum tastes like", you get put straight on the air. :furious::wallbash:
:clap:
Fez believes in the idea that people outside of himself can control his emotional well-being. Because of this, he projects his feelings on his family, people who drop coins, homosexuals in the news, aledged rapists and the like.
Until Fez understands that his well-being is within his own control, he will feel like shit.
Fillmore Slim
04-23-2010, 05:57 AM
maybe if every f'n caller wasn't some a$$hole rube who calls up to bash fez non-stop...
the xm callers are pieces of sh!t for the most part.
do they even screen calls anymore????? i'm guessing if you call up and say, "i'm gonna ask fez what cum tastes like", you get put straight on the air. :furious::wallbash:
You should be mad at Ron, he's the one that lets those calls on air.
JPMNICK
04-23-2010, 06:53 AM
Here is the arguement with the callers.
when they 1st started, remember callers would be racist on purpose to get the annie difranco song?
they stopped the song, they racism basically stopped.
Most callers who do their negative calls, really think they are helping the show and adding to the bit.
Tennessee Jed
04-23-2010, 04:34 PM
maybe if every f'n caller wasn't some a$$hole rube who calls up to bash fez non-stop...
the xm callers are pieces of sh!t for the most part.
do they even screen calls anymore????? i'm guessing if you call up and say, "i'm gonna ask fez what cum tastes like", you get put straight on the air. :furious::wallbash:
just to let you know, when i call to make fun of fez, i tell the screener exactly what i'm going to say and Ron usually goes right to my call. i don't do it all the time, but i do get on quicker with a bashing call then just a regular comment.
disneyspy
04-23-2010, 04:42 PM
just to let you know, when i call to make fun of fez, i tell the screener exactly what i'm going to say and Ron usually goes right to my call. i don't do it all the time, but i do get on quicker with a bashing call then just a regular comment.
this may be the saddest thing i've ever read here
Meataball23
04-25-2010, 02:22 PM
You should be mad at Ron, he's the one that lets those calls on air.
just to let you know, when i call to make fun of fez, i tell the screener exactly what i'm going to say and Ron usually goes right to my call. i don't do it all the time, but i do get on quicker with a bashing call then just a regular comment.
I totally believe both of these to be true....im possibly a rube but whatever. I'll walk down the boardwalk eating cotton candy believing this.
And to be totally honest, I dont think its necessarily a bad thing. Fez is horrible on air unless hes doing a "shockjock" kind of thing (which has its place) but as far as intelligent poignant dialogue with Ron/the staff/callers and guests, Fez flatly stinks. His role on the show now is to get made fun of and be awkward. Until we all accept that there will continue to be threads like this and very naive people who keep waiting for Fez to "come back".
I was listening to "Marc Maron's WTF" podcast yesterday. He was interviewing Robin Williams. Williams brought up a story about being on Letterman and before the end of a show break Letterman whispered to him, "Have you had any problems with your emotions since you started having heart problems? (Or something to that effect)"
I guess that even though Leo Gallagher didn't experience emotional problems after heart surgery, Robin Williams, David Letterman and (our) Fez Whatley have. I think it is important to understand that Fez's emotional issues may have been exacerbated by heart trouble. Don't discount it.
Plug for Maron: Listen to "Marc Maron's WTF! Podcast" It is a little like "Unmasked" except more frequent and egocentric.
booster11373
04-27-2010, 06:38 AM
I was listening to "Marc Maron's WTF" podcast yesterday. He was interviewing Robin Williams. Williams brought up a story about being on Letterman and before the end of a show break Letterman whispered to him, "Have you had any problems with your emotions since you started having heart problems? (Or something to that effect)"
I guess that even though Leo Gallagher didn't experience emotional problems after heart surgery, Robin Williams, David Letterman and (our) Fez Whatley have. I think it is important to understand that Fez's emotional issues may have been exacerbated by heart trouble. Don't discount it.
Plug for Maron: Listen to "Marc Maron's WTF! Podcast" It is a little like "Unmasked" except more frequent and egocentric.
I think thats a big factor as well as the different meds for Fez's other issues
Space Edge
04-27-2010, 06:46 AM
I was listening to "Marc Maron's WTF" podcast yesterday. He was interviewing Robin Williams. Williams brought up a story about being on Letterman and before the end of a show break Letterman whispered to him, "Have you had any problems with your emotions since you started having heart problems? (Or something to that effect)"
I guess that even though Leo Gallagher didn't experience emotional problems after heart surgery, Robin Williams, David Letterman and (our) Fez Whatley have. I think it is important to understand that Fez's emotional issues may have been exacerbated by heart trouble. Don't discount it.
Plug for Maron: Listen to "Marc Maron's WTF! Podcast" It is a little like "Unmasked" except more frequent and egocentric.
I love that podcast, definitely worth listening to.
I wonder how Dave will react to the heart issue. He's already on edge :glurps:
booster11373
04-27-2010, 07:17 AM
While listening to last thurdays show with Fez's change bit I have decided to stop listening to the show for a while. It is no longer fun or interesting to hear the same show more or less every day.
yojimbo7248
04-27-2010, 07:34 AM
While listening to last thurdays show with Fez's change bit I have decided to stop listening to the show for a while. It is no longer fun or interesting to hear the same show more or less every day.
I hit my point yesterday. The show was already subdued since Dave wasn't there. I think it was in the 3rd hour and Fez started into an angry rant about seeing advertisements on the internet and then Ron didn't respond and left Fez hanging. It just hit me that I no longer enjoy the show.
Fez has turned into my angry senile aunt who sits in front of the tv all day and just bitches about stupid stuff. I can't remember last time he said anything interesting or funny. And now we have these awkward silences because Ron won't humor him and say, "Yes, Fez it is horrible how children call you yucky or yes, Fez, elevators are scary or yes, Fez, that female celebrity sure is a bitch". The show is no longer fun or interesting. I can't listen anymore.
Zorro
04-27-2010, 07:54 AM
I hit my point yesterday. The show was already subdued since Dave wasn't there. I think it was in the 3rd hour and Fez started into an angry rant about seeing advertisements on the internet and then Ron didn't respond and left Fez hanging. It just hit me that I no longer enjoy the show.
Fez has turned into my angry senile aunt who sits in front of the tv all day and just bitches about stupid stuff. I can't remember last time he said anything interesting or funny. And now we have these awkward silences because Ron won't humor him and say, "Yes, Fez it is horrible how children call you yucky or yes, Fez, elevators are scary or yes, Fez, that female celebrity sure is a bitch". The show is no longer fun or interesting. I can't listen anymore.
I have to admit my listening has been hit or miss so there may be a history, but Ron just sounded downright mean to Fez today.
spainlinx0
04-27-2010, 10:02 AM
I have to admit my listening has been hit or miss so there may be a history, but Ron just sounded downright mean to Fez today.
I still hear every show, and it was a little meaner yesterday.
However it seems like Fez does not know how to actually interact. It reminds me of a play where the characters are all talking, and then a character delivers a soliloquy. Then the other people on the show act like it never happened half the time, and just mock the other half. It's awkward, uncomfortable, and it's getting worse.
Serpico1103
04-27-2010, 10:17 AM
Fez is getting worse. When he tries to interject it is " uh....yeah....I...uh." So hurried, awkward, filled with grunts and half words.
yojimbo7248
04-27-2010, 10:45 AM
I still hear every show, and it was a little meaner yesterday.
However it seems like Fez does not know how to actually interact. It reminds me of a play where the characters are all talking, and then a character delivers a soliloquy. Then the other people on the show act like it never happened half the time, and just mock the other half. It's awkward, uncomfortable, and it's getting worse.
you put it perfectly.
I have tons of affection for the show. I don't mean to be negative and it makes me sad that I don't enjoy it anymore. Of course, saying I can't listen anymore is negative but I didn't write that to be a prick. I don't blame Fez either. It's more that dynamic that spainlinx described. It's just painful to listen to.
A couple of months ago I listened to a lot of WJFK recordings. It was great to remember why I loved the show so much in DC. Fez was my favorite part of the show and the whole thing was just more of a good time. Listening to those tapes, however, made it worse tuning into the show now. Everything is so much heavier now: Fez's problems, Ron's getting frustrated, Dave and Fez feuding.
When I went back and listened to the old tapes, Ron sounded like he was having much more fun. Maybe he really is getting sick of the current situation. When Ron mocks Fez's grunting, it sounds more mean-spirited than it used to.
I like and respect the Gvac's, Moe's, Mikeyboy's and everyone who will follow the show through any phase or downturn. I just find that I flip on the radio almost more about of habit now and a couple of hours later feel like I have wasted my time listening to the Ron and Fez Show.
booster11373
04-27-2010, 11:20 AM
you put it perfectly.
I have tons of affection for the show. I don't mean to be negative and it makes me sad that I don't enjoy it anymore. Of course, saying I can't listen anymore is negative but I didn't write that to be a prick. I don't blame Fez either. It's more that dynamic that spainlinx described. It's just painful to listen to.
A couple of months ago I listened to a lot of WJFK recordings. It was great to remember why I loved the show so much in DC. Fez was my favorite part of the show and the whole thing was just more of a good time. Listening to those tapes, however, made it worse tuning into the show now. Everything is so much heavier now: Fez's problems, Ron's getting frustrated, Dave and Fez feuding.
When I went back and listened to the old tapes, Ron sounded like he was having much more fun. Maybe he really is getting sick of the current situation. When Ron mocks Fez's grunting, it sounds more mean-spirited than it used to.
I like and respect the Gvac's, Moe's, Mikeyboy's and everyone who will follow the show through any phase or downturn. I just find that I flip on the radio almost more about of habit now and a couple of hours later feel like I have wasted my time listening to the Ron and Fez Show.
Well said and I concur completely
hurlmon
04-27-2010, 11:24 AM
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When I went back and listened to the old tapes, Ron sounded like he was having much more fun. Maybe he really is getting sick of the current situation. When Ron mocks Fez's grunting, it sounds more mean-spirited than it used to.
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He has to be getting sick of the situation. Do you think if management called and asked if Fez was there because he wasn't talking, Ron would go into a rant defending Fez like he did when it happened in DC? I don't.
Here's (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=2722) the rant in the file library if you haven't heard it.
JPMNICK
04-27-2010, 01:09 PM
He has to be getting sick of the situation. Do you think if management called and asked if Fez was there because he wasn't talking, Ron would go into a rant defending Fez like he did when it happened in DC? I don't.
Here's (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=2722) the rant in the file library if you haven't heard it.
one of my favorite clips ever. it really showed how much ronnie loved fez.
the ensuing hour long discussion on wrestling made it even funnier
While listening to last thurdays show with Fez's change bit I have decided to stop listening to the show for a while. It is no longer fun or interesting to hear the same show more or less every day.
He has always brought up trite, silly, bitchy topics. They were Fezatorials and Ron didn't talk about them then either.
If Fez sold his gripes as Fezatorials, the problem would vanish.
hurlmon
04-27-2010, 03:25 PM
He has always brought up trite, silly, bitchy topics. They were Fezatorials and Ron didn't talk about them then either.
If Fez sold his gripes as Fezatorials, the problem would vanish.
but fezatorials were a bit meant to be/sound bitchy. Now it's just what makes him Fez.
we are just listening to a mans slow decent into madness.
yojimbo7248
04-27-2010, 03:46 PM
but fezatorials were a bit meant to be/sound bitchy. Now it's just what makes him Fez.
we are just listening to a mans slow decent into madness.
Fezatorials were hilarious because they were bitchy but light. Now when he launches into something that pisses him off, it's so shrill, angry, and he sounds like he is cracking up. Recently I don't even understand him. That one about advertisements on the internet was gibberish.
Meataball23
04-27-2010, 04:52 PM
I hit my point yesterday. The show was already subdued since Dave wasn't there. I think it was in the 3rd hour and Fez started into an angry rant about seeing advertisements on the internet and then Ron didn't respond and left Fez hanging. It just hit me that I no longer enjoy the show.
Fez has turned into my angry senile aunt who sits in front of the tv all day and just bitches about stupid stuff. I can't remember last time he said anything interesting or funny. And now we have these awkward silences because Ron won't humor him and say, "Yes, Fez it is horrible how children call you yucky or yes, Fez, elevators are scary or yes, Fez, that female celebrity sure is a bitch". The show is no longer fun or interesting. I can't listen anymore.
you put it perfectly.
I have tons of affection for the show. I don't mean to be negative and it makes me sad that I don't enjoy it anymore. Of course, saying I can't listen anymore is negative but I didn't write that to be a prick. I don't blame Fez either. It's more that dynamic that spainlinx described. It's just painful to listen to.
A couple of months ago I listened to a lot of WJFK recordings. It was great to remember why I loved the show so much in DC. Fez was my favorite part of the show and the whole thing was just more of a good time. Listening to those tapes, however, made it worse tuning into the show now. Everything is so much heavier now: Fez's problems, Ron's getting frustrated, Dave and Fez feuding.
When I went back and listened to the old tapes, Ron sounded like he was having much more fun. Maybe he really is getting sick of the current situation. When Ron mocks Fez's grunting, it sounds more mean-spirited than it used to.
I like and respect the Gvac's, Moe's, Mikeyboy's and everyone who will follow the show through any phase or downturn. I just find that I flip on the radio almost more about of habit now and a couple of hours later feel like I have wasted my time listening to the Ron and Fez Show.
You sir have summed it up perfectly, Id like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Seriously, well fucking said and I totally agree. I havent been listening much recently and its 100% b/c of Fez. Ive said it on this site many times but Fez needs a long hiatus from this show.
booster11373
04-27-2010, 04:56 PM
You sir have summed it up perfectly, Id like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Seriously, well fucking said and I totally agree. I havent been listening much recently and its 100% b/c of Fez. Ive said it on this site many times but Fez needs a long hiatus from this show.
See I dont think you get it, It is not just Fez, Ron is a big part of this problem as well.
dereckfishboy
04-27-2010, 05:49 PM
See I dont think you get it, It is not just Fez, Ron is a big part of this problem as well.
So what? I don't care if Ron is part of the problem. What turned me from an everyday listener into just a casual one is that I don't enjoy listening to Fez, his bitching, or his secret. Whatever part Dave or Ron may play into that, it wasn't listening to them that made me start to tune out. I could listen to Ron all day long. Even if he is a key contributing factor to why I can't listen to the show right now, the primary component is still Fez. If you take issue with Ron, more power to you. Ron already has way to much influence and control on Fez's life, why not blame him for why Fez sucks on the show too? How we got there aside, that's where we are. Sorry, Fez just sucks on the radio now. I wish it weren't the case, Fez used to be just as much why I listened.
Meataball23
04-27-2010, 05:52 PM
See I dont think you get it, It is not just Fez, Ron is a big part of this problem as well.
I dont know about that at all. Ive written in this forum many many times that I believe Ron ultimately dictates what goes on the air. He directs the tone, pace and material. I think its naive to think that even if Ron was completely understanding and sweet to Fez that he'd be any better on air (not that youre necessarily saying that).
In my personal opinion Ron is the most talented personality on radio. His partner is (in my opinion in the last 3 years) is one of the most awkward untalented personalities on radio. Ron is more than allowed to throw Fez under the bus at every opportunity.
dereckfishboy
04-27-2010, 05:58 PM
In my personal opinion Ron is the most talented personality on radio. His partner is (in my opinion in the last 3 years) is one of the most awkward untalented personalities on radio. Ron is more than allowed to throw Fez under the bus at every opportunity.
The way thing stands now, I couldn't see Fez getting a separate gig like I could Ron. I honestly don't thing Fez would be on the radio waves at all anymore without him. As far as I can tell, he's still carrying him. Until he drops him, I don't understand why he owes him any more than that.
Godzoox
04-27-2010, 06:54 PM
Fez 5% of the work load for 50% of the money - Ron is the rube...
Meataball23
04-27-2010, 07:00 PM
The way thing stands now, I couldn't see Fez getting a separate gig like I could Ron. I honestly don't thing Fez would be on the radio waves at all anymore without him. As far as I can tell, he's still carrying him. Until he drops him, I don't understand why he owes him any more than that.
ZERO chance Fez would be on another show if they took a break for other projects or just flatly broke up. Ron is the best interviewer on the planet right now. Very well versed in music, politics, film, and life in general. Id make it a point to listen to anything he has to say. I honestly think Fez is the exact opposite. Hes not well versed in anything, inarticulate on air, and apparently has no life experiences at all. We've been listening to the downfall of a once very talented man.
hurlmon
04-28-2010, 06:06 AM
The way thing stands now, I couldn't see Fez getting a separate gig like I could Ron. I honestly don't thing Fez would be on the radio waves at all anymore without him. As far as I can tell, he's still carrying him. Until he drops him, I don't understand why he owes him any more than that.
no way Fez would be on the radio without Ron.
Seems like Ron carried him the last few years being a real good friend hoping he would get through his problems and "come back". As we all know he hasn't and it seems like Ron is finally getting fed up with Fez's lack of trying. And the last few days without Dave prove (to me at least) that Dave isn't the problem. yeah he may talk a lot, but there where many a times a over the last 2 days that Fez wasn't talking. And if Ron had any confidence in Fez, Earl wouldn't have been in there. Not that it's a bad thing that he was.
It was said earlier and I agree. Fez just doesn't seem to know how to interact anymore. He talks at them rather than with them. Like when they are on a topic and he just comes in with something totally off topic but plows through anyway. sad
deepspacem32
04-30-2010, 09:51 PM
I would love it if intern Sean went on R&F to talk man-to-man with fez about his direction in life.
JPMNICK
04-30-2010, 11:02 PM
could be an interesting summer, Fez might have to really turn it on so they can get renewed on October. 202 has a lot of contract extensions coming up. Will be interesting to see if there even is a 202 Nov 1
helterskeletor
05-01-2010, 10:23 AM
See I dont think you get it, It is not just Fez, Ron is a big part of this problem as well.
Ron is maybe a little bit at fault, but the bottom line is this: FEZ DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK. He doesn't put forth enough effort toward the show, or any effort really. Ron will throw questions about the show out there to see what Fez says and he's perpetually clueless about what goes on on his own show.
I don't give a fuck about the heart attack affecting his emotions. Deal with it the other 20 hours a day. When you're on the show, work on the show.
Ron has carried the goddamn show for years now, and Dave has put forth a herculian effort and given us a shit load of great bits/fights.
The more I think about this, the more I realize that Ron can't bring Fez in if Fez refuses to try harder. Ronnie played some Fezzatorials and tried to get Fez into a humor mode again and I really hope it works over time. It's not Ron's job to "fix" Fez.
But at the same time, I still love R&F. Ron's humor, Hick's hilarious interjections, and Dave's madness. And I actually am intrigued by Fez's mental breakdowns and Ron meting out a little bit of justice when he calls Fez out for being lazy on the show.
And the last thing I'll say is that Fez needs to quit the therapy. It frequently happens that therapy actually worsens the problem by not allowing the patient to ever move on with life. You can't just obsess forever. Just watch, the more therapy Fez does, the worse he'll get. I've seen it happen a bunch of times.
Edit: Also wanted to say that I agree Fez doesn't know how to interact anymore. That's because he's not focused on the show when he's in studio. His mind is wandering, probably obsessing about all sorts of insignificant bullshit. He constantly sounds distracted and confused. We all know the fucker has a mind like a steel trap, it's just not engaged. If he dropped the meds and the therapy he'd be back at it in a couple of months. As it is he'll keep drifting off and it will be interesting to see what Ron decides to do in the future.
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