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StanUpshaw
04-29-2010, 12:43 PM
Ron seems to take it for granted that the key figures murdered in the sixties were the result of some sort overarching plot. What do you believe?

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John F. Kennedy - November 22, 1963
The official story: President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he traveled in an open top car in a motorcade in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963; Texas Governor John Connally was also injured. Within two hours, Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested for the murder of a Dallas policeman, and that evening arraigned on a charge of murder in the death of officer J.D. Tippit. At 1:35 the following morning, Oswald was arraigned on the charge of murdering the President. On November 24, 1963, while being transferred from the Dallas Police Department to the county jail, Oswald was shot and killed by Jack Ruby, a nightclub owner. In 1964, the Warren Commission concluded that there was no persuasive evidence that Oswald was involved in a conspiracy to assassinate the President, and stated their belief that he acted alone.


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Malcolm X - February 21, 1965
The official story: On February 21, 1965, in Manhattan's Audubon Ballroom, Malcolm X began to speak to a meeting of the Organization of Afro-American Unity when a disturbance broke out in the crowd of 400. A man yelled, "Nigger! Get your hand outta my pocket!" As Malcolm X and his bodyguards moved to quiet the disturbance, a man rushed forward and shot him in the chest with a sawed-off shotgun. Two other men charged the stage and fired handguns, hitting him 16 times. Furious onlookers caught and beat one of the assassins as the others fled the ballroom. Malcolm X was pronounced dead at 3:30 p.m., shortly after he arrived at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital.

Talmadge Hayer, a Nation of Islam member also known as Thomas Hagan, was arrested on the scene. Eyewitnesses identified two more suspects, Norman 3X Butler and Thomas 15X Johnson, also members of the Nation. All three were charged in the case. At first Hayer denied involvement, but during the trial he confessed to having fired shots at Malcolm X. He testified that Butler and Johnson were not present and were not involved in the assassination, but he declined to name the men who had joined him in the shooting. All three men were convicted.

Hagan said in a 1977 affidavit that he and several accomplices decided to kill Malcolm X because he was a “hypocrite” who had “gone against the leader of the Nation of Islam,” Elijah Muhammad.


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Martin Luther King, Jr. - April 4, 1968
The official story: At 6:01 p.m. on Thursday, April 4, 1968, while he was standing on the second floor balcony of the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, King was struck by a single .30 bullet fired from a Remington 760 Gamemaster. The bullet travelled through the right side of his neck, smashing his throat and down his spinal cord before lodging in his shoulder. King was rushed to St. Joseph's Hospital, where doctors opened his chest and performed manual heart massage. He was pronounced dead at 7:05 p.m.

On June 10, 1968, James Earl Ray, a fugitive from a Missouri prison, was arrested in London at Heathrow Airport, extradited to the United States, and charged with the crime. On March 10, 1969, Ray entered a plea of guilty and was sentenced to 99 years in the Tennessee state penitentiary. Ray's many later attempts to withdraw his guilty plea and be tried by a jury were unsuccessful; he died in prison on April 23, 1998.


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Robert F. Kennedy - June 5, 1968
The official story: Shortly after midnight on June 5, 1968 in Los Angeles, California, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated during celebrations of his successful campaign in the Californian primary elections while seeking the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. The perpetrator was a twenty-four year old Palestinian immigrant named Sirhan Sirhan.

Sirhan Sirhan was a strongly anti-Zionist. A diary found during a search of Sirhan's home stated, "My determination to eliminate RFK is becoming more and more of an unshakable obsession. RFK must die. RFK must be killed. Robert F. Kennedy must be assassinated...Robert F. Kennedy must be assassinated before 5 June 68." It has been suggested that the date of the assassination is significant, because it was the first anniversary of the first day of the Six Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors. When Sirhan was booked by police, they found in his pocket a newspaper article that discussed Kennedy's support for Israel, and at his trial, Sirhan testified that he began to hate Kennedy after learning of this support.

Judge Smails
04-29-2010, 12:52 PM
Ron seems to take it for granted that the key figures murdered in the sixties were the result of some sort overarching plot.

Ron also says he wants to drain and pave over the oceans is alls I'm saying.

brettmojo
04-29-2010, 12:54 PM
JFK was gonna' blow the lid off the whole aliens thing. Had to be stopped.

Furtherman
04-29-2010, 01:07 PM
RFK and Malcom X.

The rest were killed by these guys:

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Fugitive
10-14-2010, 04:42 PM
Read the details on the killing of Fred Hampton and tell me that one wasn't a conspiracy. Nobody talks about that one anymore.

KnoxHarrington
10-14-2010, 06:22 PM
I don't think so. I just wanted to come in here and say that this is a fucking awesome book:

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PapaBear
10-14-2010, 06:27 PM
RFK and Malcom X.
I agree about RFK. As for X, I think it was a conspiracy, but not a government one. Of course, there's now doubt it was a conspiracy, since more than one person was involved. But I think it was a broader conspiracy involving the Muslim higher ups, not just thugs.

sailor
10-14-2010, 08:46 PM
I agree about RFK. As for X, I think it was a conspiracy, but not a government one. Of course, there's now doubt it was a conspiracy, since more than one person was involved. But I think it was a broader conspiracy involving the Muslim higher ups, not just thugs.

I don't think anyone is saying there were not individual conspiracies. The point of the thread is whether these murders were tied to each other.

PapaBear
10-14-2010, 08:49 PM
I don't think anyone is saying there were not individual conspiracies. The point of the thread is whether these murders were tied to each other.
But it asked "any or all". I don't believe "all".

What I believe...

JFK and MLK: Lone gunmen
RFK: External conspiracy
Malcolm X: Internal conspiracy

A.J.
10-15-2010, 04:24 AM
I blame the guy from "Sympathy for the Devil".

CountryBob
10-15-2010, 04:35 AM
I think that the same group that is slowly killing America by pushing vaccinations - is behind it all!

PapaBear
10-15-2010, 07:40 PM
I blame the guy from "Sympathy for the Devil".
To the contrary, I'm his advocate.

KnoxHarrington
10-15-2010, 07:48 PM
I brought up the book "Hellhound On His Trail", and reading it, I could kind of see why people think these things have to have been done by a conspiracy. James Earl Ray comes off as such a stupid douchebag that it's really hard to imagine one lone loser like this could kill a towering figure like Martin Luther King, but this was hardly a precision operation that required hundreds of people and thousands of dollars: he bought a rifle, he managed to get a room in a seedy flophouse across the street from the Lorraine Motel, he shot MLK through the bathroom. It's disturbing to think it's that easy, but, really it is. Sirhan Sirhan just managed to slip through security and hide in the kitchen, waiting for RFK. And modern forensics show that the "magic bullet" Lee Harvey Oswald fired is completely plausible and possible, and one lone gunman firing from the window of the Texas Book Depository can indeed account for all the wounds found on JFK and John Connolly.

Conspiracy theory makes us think the world isn't as random and chaotic as it really is. We'd rather think that it takes a massive conspiracy of the CIA/FBI/Freemasons/Mafia/Cubans/aliens to kill JFK, when it could just have easily -- and probably more logically -- been a single gunman. But that's scarier to think.

Sue_Bender
10-15-2010, 10:21 PM
I brought up the book "Hellhound On His Trail", and reading it, I could kind of see why people think these things have to have been done by a conspiracy. James Earl Ray comes off as such a stupid douchebag that it's really hard to imagine one lone loser like this could kill a towering figure like Martin Luther King, but this was hardly a precision operation that required hundreds of people and thousands of dollars: he bought a rifle, he managed to get a room in a seedy flophouse across the street from the Lorraine Motel, he shot MLK through the bathroom. It's disturbing to think it's that easy, but, really it is. Sirhan Sirhan just managed to slip through security and hide in the kitchen, waiting for RFK. And modern forensics show that the "magic bullet" Lee Harvey Oswald fired is completely plausible and possible, and one lone gunman firing from the window of the Texas Book Depository can indeed account for all the wounds found on JFK and John Connolly.

Conspiracy theory makes us think the world isn't as random and chaotic as it really is. We'd rather think that it takes a massive conspiracy of the CIA/FBI/Freemasons/Mafia/Cubans/aliens to kill JFK, when it could just have easily -- and probably more logically -- been a single gunman. But that's scarier to think.


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