Is Dave leaving a bit?

[LordJezo]

Anyone else think this is just another part of the Dave bit saga?

Dave has pulled stunts before and really can't be trusted in anything that he says or does, him leaving the show really seems fake.

When he shows back up in a few days or weeks (maybe he is just on vacation) people will be pissed but wont be surprised.

So he is still doing Special Delivery? That means he wont be moving to NC and wont be getting a job down there. Nothing will change.

[yojimbo7248]

I'm with you Lord Jezo. I think this is a bit. I think everyone is aware that losing ESD is too big of a blow while Fez is still stuck in his emotional problems. Having HTG, Earl, Franklyn, MLC and Stalker Patty coming in for third mic like they have done while Dave is off dealing with Stan is not a sustainable plan.

[disneyspy]

not a bit that he'll return to r&f but at least he got some pay for him and sam(and hopefully pepper too) for special delivery,and he didnt go out the way so many producers that have been with fez and ron and i'm going back to billy the phone freek who at the end would only whistle cuz they drove him bat shit

[Tommy the bass player]

yup.
when I heard him on the show yesterday, I was convinced.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Its not a bit.

[sailor]

Was excited when they played his music yesterday, but I fear it's not a bit. Sadly.

[Fillmore Slim]

yup.
when I heard him on the show yesterday, I was convinced.

No you didn't.

[oPant]

I don't think it's a bit, but I think he will ask for his job back.

[Jericholic51]

Maybe they`re giving him time off till Stan gets better. Hope the lil guy gets better soon.

[indymike]

it is so not a bit

See - midnight rider was a bit - and EVERYONE would join in and laugh and wink and nudge.....

Look at who is posting that it isn't a bit. We were all joking last time around.

[LordJezo]

Maybe they`re giving him time off till Stan gets better. Hope the lil guy gets better soon.

Some people think Stan is a bit.

[oPant]

Some people think Stan is a bit.

Some people think everything on every radio show is a bit. I hate those people.:flush:

[hanso]

Some people think Stan is a bit.

What about him riding the bus?

[keithy_19]

What about him riding the bus?

The bus was a myth.

[STC-Dub]

Not a bit.

[Hottub]

No. He usually finishes everything on his plate.

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[celery]

I can't believe anyone really thinks it's a bit.

1. Dave wouldn't involve his sick son in a bit.
2. R&F wouldn't blatantly lie, saying it's not a bit, if it were a bit. They might skirt around the issue, or give some goofy tongue and cheek answer, but not in a serious tone. They have way more to lose than gain by treating the listeners that way.

[hanso]

I thought he made videos of bus rides.

[Dirtbag]

It's already been said, but I still don't understand how a man with a sick child leaves a job with benefits (even as much as he's complained about them) without a backup plan, 4 hour commute or not. I did the same thing he did and have been sitting on my fat ass for almost four months, but I don't have a family to take care of.

[SinFiction]

Anyone who thinks this is a bit is a retarded person and should stop listening to the radio because they are mentally incapable of doing it.

[helterskeletor]

There's no way this is a bit. I have been fooled by the buddays in the past, but Dave's discussion of it on Special Delivery and Ronnie talking about it today sealed it for me. They fucked over a guy with a sick kid and it ain't a bit. Fuck 'em.

[midwestjeff]

What about him riding the bus?

His sister even rode with him.

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derrrrrrrrrr!!!!

[PapaBear]

If Dave was gone from the show for two years, Wackbaggers would still say it's a bit.

[midwestjeff]

or give some goofy tongue and cheek answer

Love tongue, hate cheek.

:innocent:

[Caseyelan]

not a bit.




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[midwestjeff]

not a bit.

There it is Jezo.

Now you know it's a bit.

[SatCam]

WHAT DO I HAVE TO SAY?
THIS IS NOT A BIT!

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[oPant]

He's leaving at least for a little bit. :devil2:

[abomb999]

Not a bit :( I really hope Dave has a job lined up or Ron goes ballistic in the next week and does whatever he fucking can to get dave back on the show.

[Old Gravy Leg]

Ron pretty much said everyone was in agreement for Dave staying,everyone that is except the people in in HR who couldn't see him as more than just a producer. He also said he done all he could during the vacation, they still didn't see it his way. I'm not sure what more he could do.

[blasphemer]

the show is a lot better without him

[CountryBob]

It's already been said, but I still don't understand how a man with a sick child leaves a job with benefits (even as much as he's complained about them) without a backup plan, 4 hour commute or not. I did the same thing he did and have been sitting on my fat ass for almost four months, but I don't have a family to take care of.

This - but we dont know what he has up his sleeve. Maybe he already has plans for work ironed out.

[MofongoK]

buddays,

been a lurker for years...loyal listener since the late night NYC show started 11-ish years ago...

finally had to make an account to add fuel to the fire -

Dave just posted a twitteo 30 minutes ago of himself at Jenkinson's batting cages - at Point Pleasant boardwalk... family vacation right after "quitting" and broke?

[Hottub]

buddays,

been a lurker for years...loyal listener since the late night NYC show started 11-ish years ago...

finally had to make an account to add fuel to the fire -

Dave just posted a twitteo 30 minutes ago of himself at Jenkinson's batting cages - at Point Pleasant boardwalk... family vacation right after "quitting" and broke?

Welcome.

And yes, he deserves a vacation.

[Chigworthy]

Welcome.

And yes, he deserves a vacation.

But NOOOOOOOOO! He must spend all of his waking time procuring money for his family now that he left, and we need to insinuate our false morality into his life by judging everything he does from now on!!!!!

[knockknock]

Dave is the new Conan. A guy who got his big break, loved his job, and was squeezed out by a greedy old clinger who just couldn't let go. Leno thinks he's entitled, Fez thinks he's entitled. At least Leno does his job compared to Fez.

At this point I feel a little dirty listening to the show because the curtain has been pulled back and now we know it's slave labor doing the boss's job. Ron's having to drag underpaid, overworked Chris Stanley into the studio to do Fez's job, along with unpaid, unemployed Earl. Meanwhile, Fez sits there silently with the meter running to the tune of $400K+ a year.

The show qualifies as a sweat shop.

[Death Metal Moe]

Dave is the new Conan. A guy who got his big break, loved his job, and was squeezed out by a greedy old clinger who just couldn't let go. Leno thinks he's entitled, Fez thinks he's entitled. At least Leno does his job compared to Fez.

At this point I feel a little dirty listening to the show because the curtain has been pulled back and now we know it's slave labor doing the boss's job. Ron's having to drag underpaid, overworked Chris Stanley into the studio to do Fez's job, along with unpaid, unemployed Earl. Meanwhile, Fez sits there silently with the meter running to the tune of $400K+ a year.

The show qualifies as a sweat shop.

Wow, that was one of the most poorly written things I've read on Ronfez. Congrats.

Way to force the players into their roles to try to prove your horribly incorrect point.

[Furtherman]

buddays,

been a lurker for years...loyal listener since the late night NYC show started 11-ish years ago...

finally had to make an account to add fuel to the fire -

Dave just posted a twitteo 30 minutes ago of himself at Jenkinson's batting cages - at Point Pleasant boardwalk... family vacation right after "quitting" and broke?

Post a video of what you do on your off time. We're waiting to judge.

[Bigwils]

its all a bit, how is he going to leave a job with health benefits when he has a sick child

[MofongoK]

Post a video of what you do on your off time. We're waiting to judge.

But NOOOOOOOOO! He must spend all of his waking time procuring money for his family now that he left, and we need to insinuate our false morality into his life by judging everything he does from now on!!!!!

Wow, right over both of your heads.

The point wasn't that he doesn't deserve a vacation or any judgement on that...it had NOTHING to do with that, so stop jumping all over shit so fast.

My point was that he posted a video of himself clearly on vacation today, after little hints all week like the opening of Tuesday's show where Ron (jokingly or not?) said he's just on vacation.

Since the name of this thread is "Is Dave leaving a bit?", my comment only meant "perhaps it is just a bit", thus "adding fuel to the fire".

Next time I'll be sure to spell things out more literally for those that need it...

[Rhah]

Wow, right over both of your heads.

The point wasn't that he doesn't deserve a vacation or any judgement on that...it had NOTHING to do with that, so stop jumping all over shit so fast.

My point was that he posted a video of himself clearly on vacation today, after little hints all week like the opening of Tuesday's show where Ron (jokingly or not?) said he's just on vacation.

Since the name of this thread is "Is Dave leaving a bit?", my comment only meant "perhaps it is just a bit", thus "adding fuel to the fire".

Next time I'll be sure to spell things out more literally for those that need it...

I like this guy. Don't let Furtherman's post count intimidate you.

[MofongoK]

I like this guy. Don't let Furtherman's post count intimidate you.

I promise. As long as you promise to hunt me down and kill me the moment I hit such a low in life to be intimidated by internet forum post counts.

[RhinoinMN]

I like this guy. Don't let Furtherman's post count intimidate you.

Large post count equals

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[ShowerBench]

Dave is the new Conan. A guy who got his big break, loved his job, and was squeezed out by a greedy old clinger who just couldn't let go. Leno thinks he's entitled, Fez thinks he's entitled. At least Leno does his job compared to Fez.

At this point I feel a little dirty listening to the show because the curtain has been pulled back and now we know it's slave labor doing the boss's job. Ron's having to drag underpaid, overworked Chris Stanley into the studio to do Fez's job, along with unpaid, unemployed Earl. Meanwhile, Fez sits there silently with the meter running to the tune of $400K+ a year.

The show qualifies as a sweat shop.

Fez is in fact entitled to his job on the "Ron and Fez Show."

Leno returned the Tonight Show to #1.

Finally - I doubt Pepper minds being "dragged" onto the mic. Neither did Dave. It's a privilege to anyone who aspires to be in/on radio, not arduous manual labor.

Who listens to radio entertainment while calculating the performers' salaries, anyway? That's so retarded.

[Rhah]

Who listens to radio entertainment while calculating the performers' salaries, anyway? That's so retarded.

OnA when they talk about Hoho?

[ozzie]

In-before-lockey









face!

[RhinoinMN]

OnA when they talk about Hoho?

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[Zorro]

Fez is in fact entitled to his job on the "Ron and Fez Show."

Leno returned the Tonight Show to #1.

Finally - I doubt Pepper minds being "dragged" onto the mic. Neither did Dave. It's a privilege to anyone who aspires to be in/on radio, not arduous manual labor.

Who listens to radio entertainment while calculating the performers' salaries, anyway? That's so retarded.

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[ShowerBench]

Two words for anyone who thinks they hope it's a bit:

Forklift Twideos

[helterskeletor]

I doubt Pepper minds being "dragged" onto the mic. Neither did Dave. It's a privilege to anyone who aspires to be in/on radio, not arduous manual labor.
.

Someone should drag Fezzie to the mic then.

Fact is, it's work. If you don't think it's hard to be constantly entertaining for four hours, try it some time.

[Chigworthy]

If this thread were the rule, you could reasonably say that low post count equals raging imbecility.

[Sloppy2nds]

not a bit.




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He's really not coming back?:thumbdown:

[Furtherman]

I like this guy. Don't let Furtherman's post count intimidate you.

I crap bigger than you.

[Sloppy2nds]

I crap bigger than you.

True story :lol:

[disgruntledsherpa]

I didn't think it was a bit but apparently he still has a desk/cubicle at Sirius or so it seems from one of his recent Twitter Videos. Why would the company allow an ex-employee who bitterly walekd away from the show continue to do a side show on Saturdays for free and allow him to keep his desk?

Seems fishy.

Most other radio gigs once you're gone, you're gone and security pretty much gets you out of the office and ships your things. Big time radio companies do not let former employees hang around the studios/offices.

[sailor]

As you posted he still works there part time, silly.

[disgruntledsherpa]

As you posted he still works there part time, silly.

He doesn't get paid for Sam and Dave or least that's what he bitched about for the past three months therefore he wouldn't be an employee and I never heard of a radio station in the world that would allow volunteers who had previous beefs with management keep a desk in said radio station.

So, to clarify I guess what I'm saying is the fact he still does Sam and Dave in the first place screams to me his leaving Ron and Fez is a bit. He's probably still there off air everyday doing production.

[Rhah]

I crap bigger than you.

I just crawl back into my hole...

[ChimneyFish]

So, to clarify I guess what I'm saying is the fact he still does Sam and Dave in the first place screams to me his leaving Ron and Fez is a bit. He's probably still there off air everyday doing production.

So by this logic, I guess Than was still an employee the whole time they were doing The Than & Sam Show.

[realmenhatelife]

He doesn't get paid for Sam and Dave or least that's what he bitched about for the past three months therefore he wouldn't be an employee and I never heard of a radio station in the world that would allow volunteers who had previous beefs with management keep a desk in said radio station.

So, to clarify I guess what I'm saying is the fact he still does Sam and Dave in the first place screams to me his leaving Ron and Fez is a bit. He's probably still there off air everyday doing production.

You realize that Sam still works full time for Sirius and Dave wasn't fired, so theres no reason to treat him any differently than any of the other unpaid personalities doing off schedule shows with or at the request of Sirius employees. You dont run a corporation like some 10 employee family business, people leave all the time to pursue other opportunities and noone gets bent out of shape about it.

[Caseyelan]

In that twiddeo he was using Sam's computer.
Smarten up, Sherpa. You of all people should have your finger on the pulse of 202.....

[sailor]

In that twiddeo he was using Sam's computer.
Smarten up, Sherpa. You of all people should have your finger on the pulse of 202.....

inside furtherman's ass?

[Melk]

Did Dave officially resign or is he on a sort of strike?

[disgruntledsherpa]

In that twiddeo he was using Sam's computer.
Smarten up, Sherpa. You of all people should have your finger on the pulse of 202.....

I can happily say I have no idea what's different between Sam's desk and Dave's.

[biozombie]

You folks have some dumb motherfuckers posting around here, and by "dumb motherfuckers" I mean disgruntledsherpa.

[helterskeletor]

He doesn't get paid for Sam and Dave or least that's what he bitched about for the past three months therefore he wouldn't be an employee and I never heard of a radio station in the world that would allow volunteers who had previous beefs with management keep a desk in said radio station.

So, to clarify I guess what I'm saying is the fact he still does Sam and Dave in the first place screams to me his leaving Ron and Fez is a bit. He's probably still there off air everyday doing production.

They're paying him for SD now. Pay attention.

[disgruntledsherpa]

They're paying him for SD now. Pay attention.

I haven't been following Dave's contract situation as it goes with Sam and Dave since he left the Ron and Fez show. Why would I?

Since they're paying him for Sam and Dave can we then move on with our lives?

[Caseyelan]

I haven't been following Dave's contract situation as it goes with Sam and Dave since he left the Ron and Fez show. Why would I?

Since they're paying him for Sam and Dave can we then move on with our lives?

So you haven't been paid attention... Just come up with wild speculations about what is going on.... Check.


You stalled your life for this?????? What's is wrong with you!?!?!?!??!

[Death Metal Moe]

I haven't been following Dave's contract situation as it goes with Sam and Dave since he left the Ron and Fez show. Why would I?

Since they're paying him for Sam and Dave can we then move on with our lives?

You don't have to, but then don't come into a thread dealing with it. You know nothing so you add nothing.

[Dell]

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[Pittsburgh]

Ok, more idle speculation:

Could it be that Sirius was unable to move a full time producer salary into the on-air talent range without enraging all the other producers working for their awful wages, so by allowing Dave to resign and reclassify him as a part-time on-air talent (S&D Show co-host) Sirius could then return him to Ron and Fez as strictly "talent" and there by give him more money without exceeding producer range wages?

Whew!

[Death Metal Moe]

Ok, more idle speculation:

Could it be that Sirius was unable to move a full time producer salary into the on-air talent range without enraging all the other producers working for their awful wages, so by allowing Dave to resign and reclassify him as a part-time on-air talent (S&D Show co-host) Sirius could then return him to Ron and Fez as strictly "talent" and there by give him more money without exceeding producer range wages?

Whew!

Sirius has shown no compassion or caring for it's employees again and again, especially on 202. My feeling is if your hypothesis was correct they would have just done it all in one fell swoop.

[Pittsburgh]

Sirius has shown no compassion or caring for it's employees again and again, especially on 202. My feeling is if your hypothesis was correct they would have just done it all in one fell swoop.

True, but I have known HR systems to be real sticklers about the paperwork timeline in reclassifying employees.
Maybe wishful thinking.

[Death Metal Moe]

True, but I have known HR systems to be real sticklers about the paperwork timeline in reclassifying employees.
Maybe wishful thinking.

It's a very good idea and an interesting theory but I'm afraid we're going to have to start accepting that Davey Mac isn't coming back. I do wish he could have stayed but i will love The Ron and Fez show without him too.

[Pittsburgh]

It's a very good idea and an interesting theory but I'm afraid we're going to have to start accepting that Davey Mac isn't coming back. I do wish he could have stayed but i will love The Ron and Fez show without him too.

You've got the ear of Ronnie B, Moe. Call and ask on air, see if they deny it.

[Death Metal Moe]

You've got the ear of Ronnie B, Moe. Call and ask on air, see if they deny it.

Lol, I don't really feel I've "got his ear." I'm just a long time fan and caller that they were kind enough to never forget and to help me out when I was in my band.

Ron went over A LOT of points on that 1st Monday when they came back from vacation. I think he's said everything he wants and needs to say about the Dave situation.

I still have a weird feeling we might see the Midnight Rider come in too but I have to admit that this feeling is diminishing quickly everyday that passes.

[Death Metal Moe]

And anyway, I know Ronnie B well enough to know that if I called and "challenged" him to tell the truth, he would just lie to me to keep the bit going. Of course assuming that any of this is a bit. Again I'm a long time fan and caller but Ronnie B don't owe me shit. There's no reason for him to suddenly break down under my intense scrutiny on the phone.

[A buck 380]

Pinning my hopes on the fact that one of the last things said yesterday by Ron was referencing a meeting with the bosses. Doesn't seem like Ronnie B has many meetings with them generally speaking. Could be a swerve.
I'm not blinding speculating, just using things I hear to give hope

[CanadianRon]

I have to premise this by saying I think ronnie b is best radio show host ever... But after a couple days I am really suprised how weak the show is without dave. In just three days it's went to a basic call in show. I actually found it dull today and that was disappointing.

I used to wonder sometimes if dave and his dominant personality actually Hurt fez's performance but now I see.. Nope it had nothing to do with dave. Fez has changed.

Give him, booze, Xanax or just a crowd and he's awesome but... Ahh dammmit what's it's matter it's already done, can we get earl back at least?? Pay dave u Sirius assholes

[PapaBear]

This is the USA, buddy. We preface things here.

Welcome to the board.

[CanadianRon]

Your right...same here... Piece of shit walmart thesaurus

[weswestchester]

I have to premise this by saying I think ronnie b is best radio show host ever... But after a couple days I am really suprised how weak the show is without dave. In just three days it's went to a basic call in show. I actually found it dull today and that was disappointing.

I used to wonder sometimes if dave and his dominant personality actually Hurt fez's performance but now I see.. Nope it had nothing to do with dave. Fez has changed.

Give him, booze, Xanax or just a crowd and he's awesome but... Ahh dammmit what's it's matter it's already done, can we get earl back at least?? Pay dave u Sirius assholes


Fez needs a nemesis to be "good" on the air. When he lost a bet to Elfish (when does Fez ever win) and he had to take Elfish to Graceland - that made for great radio. Fez came back from his Elvis tour all fired up. I agree with you CanadianRon. I always find myself skipping the Audible shows when Dave was absent (to be with Stan in the hosptial). I've even have the early XM shows with Harry the Intern - and they suck. There is one episode where Fez is all fired up at Paulie the Intern because he didn't get Fez the right orange juice (I think it wasn't icy enough) - and that show was great.

But, without Dave, the show goes something like this:

1. Ron frames the discussion
2. He then asks Pepper Hicks what he thinks
3. Pepper Hicks says a 2-5 word response that is 100% predictable
4. Fez drops a "truth bomb" that is even more obvious than what Hicks just said - OR - Fez literally repeats what Ron or Hicks just said becuase he wasn't paying attention
5. Ron tells Fez - "That's exactly what I just said"
6. Fez remains silent (even though he's not being arrested)
7. The caller says something
8. Ron responds to the caller and sets up the next point
9. Satellite of Love comes on


The good news: Dave will be back by July 14th

[Kublakhan61]

The good news: Dave will be back by July 14th

1. Did I miss something?
2. This influx of low-post counters all trashing the show has me wondering which established screen-names are being protected via new handles.

Not that a low-post counts means anything, we all started there, but c'mon, this many people finally signed up just the trash the show?

[Melk]

The good news: Dave will be back by July 14th
It must be true because Wes Westchester is in the inner circle after that Blowhard song.... or am I wrong about who created the Blowhard song?

[yojimbo7248]

I never thought I'd say this but I miss the Fez-Dave fight. Fez was entertaining when he blamed Casey for everything from orchestrating the anti-Fez posts on ronfez.net to stealing money from his bank account. I miss the crying, batshit crazy Fez, especially when he would go after Dave. The current trying his best but really can't pull it off Fez is just sad. The soccer announcer character guy made me feel sorry for the guy. Maybe they can create a Fez hating Hicks bit. Maybe Fez can go on crazy, crying rants about Hick's girlfriend ruining his life.

[BOBCAT]

Now if we could just get rid of HTG, the show would be better.

Oh yeah, and bring back Dave too.

[CanadianRon]

I have low count because Ive just sat back and enjoyed the show everyday for 4 years.never had a reason to complain. Todays show starting off slow again, ron has taken more calls than ever this week and it stinks.

[weswestchester]

Constructive Criticism:

1. Send Fez out on the road. He's always better "out of the office." Have him do live calls in from a cell phone while:
a) Driving over a bridge
b) Speed dating at a bi-sexual group of speed daters
c) Eating at a diner on Roosevelt Island and trying to talk to strangers (with or without babies)
d) At a therapist's office - in the waiting room, waiting to go in, or in session (do it Dateline NBC style - where the therapist doesn't know it's being recorded)
e) At a Fat Camp for teen boys (trying to get a job as a counselor)


2. Bring in Paul O as a "REGULAR" - he can be 2nd or 3rd mic, and he can:
a) Compete with Fez for title of bigger sociopath
b) Argue with Big Kev (once a week - there could be O vs. Kev segment about the week's biggest grosing movie)
c) Each week there could be a "Paul O's women" segment, where a different woman from Paul O's life (or past) calls in to humiliate him
d) Paul O could give us a "financial report" each week - he could read his bank statements, financial records, and his outstanding debt, and how pathetic his money situation is
e) There could be a drinking show with: Paul O, Earl, Hicks, Mooch, and others - where they play a drinking games. The loser - each week - has to pick out of a hat a piece of paper with a humiliating act and do it, no questions asked.

3. Spotlight Fez when he's "in studio":
a) Have him compete against other autistic people in the studio (make up games hard for autistic people to do) - or have a "synesthesia" contest - or a Rainman contest
b) Have a therapist come in and do a "session" with Fez in studio
c) Give Fez a nemesis: Have Elfish call in. Have Harry or Paulie (the Interns) call in or show up in studio to torment him, and replay audio of thier "glory days" when they annoyed the hell out of Fez. Moreover, Elfish and Fez could bet again. Their bets were always a source of "life" for Fez (Graceland/Memphis trip comes to mind)
d) Have Ron hire a private detective to follow Fez after he leaves the show each day for a week or month, and surprise Fez with a report, read on air, by the detective, who also has pictures he can post that ronfez.net can link to. Ron's premise can be, we can finally see what Fez does. It can be a kind of intervention.


Bring back:
Fezatorials
Catty Moments

Let Fez shine again!

Give him a foil to vibe off of.

[Suspect Chin]

b) Speed dating at a bi-sexual group of speed daters

Love these ideas. Fez's secret has been a bit Ron has had in his back pocket for almost 2 years now and I think it is time to 'break open that glass box in emergency'. Send Fez on dates, sign him up for ManCrush, etc. The show needs a huge announcement now more than ever and since his secret seems to be a major source of anxiety for Fez, what better way to break him out of his slump?


d) Have Ron hire a private detective to follow Fez after he leaves the show each day for a week or month, and surprise Fez with a report, read on air, by the detective, who also has pictures he can post that ronfez.net can link to. Ron's premise can be, we can finally see what Fez does. It can be a kind of intervention.


Finding out what Fez does in all his time off has been interesting to me forever. He never talks about movies, music, events, etc. like the rest of the staff, but he must be doing something with his time.

[weswestchester]

PS -

There's also no reason the show can't steal that stuipd NBC 'Where in the World is Matt Lauer?" bit -

Just change it to:

"Where in the World is Dave McDonald?"

[weswestchester]

Why not use the pull that O&A have with Vince McMahon, and get Fez into some wrestling scenario on WWE?

He could be:

Fatty Pneumonia the Flamboyant FANBOY!!!

I see lots of Spandex and tassles...

[Cesen]

Ronnie B has been busting his ass in radio for too long to be subject to having to run a one man show at this point in his career. If Dave doesn't come back...the future of the Ron and Fez show is in danger, as we all know Ronnie is a good man and would never replace Fez regardless of how much he sucks...and clearly SiriusXM is not gonna pay for more on air talent. Love Pepper Hicks...but he cannot come close to filling the Davey Mac void....and yes this is my first post...listened for the last 5 years...love the show!

Hurry up...someone be a 'snobby poster' and tell me to take my one post and fuck off :)

[disneyspy]

fuck off cesen,kidding,ron reminds me more and more of bob lassiter(a guy that had a show a few hours after ron and someone he respected down in tampa) and bob worked alone,i could see ron becoming that kind of radio broadcaster very easily. the oil on the beaches rant yesterday was pure lassiter and i wouldnt mind hearing more of them

[Cesen]

fuck off cesen,kidding,ron reminds me more and more of bob lassiter(a guy that had a show a few hours after ron and someone he respected down in tampa) and bob worked alone,i could see ron becoming that kind of radio broadcaster very easily. the oil on the beaches rant yesterday was pure lassiter and i wouldnt mind hearing more of them

I suppose that the true talent doesn't need a partner. While it's unfortunate that Ronnie has to work harder...he certainly has stepped up to the plate the last few weeks. I remember not being able to picture long term show without Dave but Ron seems to be pulling it off using Fez and Hicks as air fillers while he sips his beverage.

[indymike]

I suppose that the true talent doesn't need a partner. While it's unfortunate that Ronnie has to work harder...he certainly has stepped up to the plate the last few weeks. I remember not being able to picture long term show without Dave but Ron seems to be pulling it off using Fez and Hicks as air fillers while he sips his beverage.


Pepper is filling a void. Fez? Not so much. Just under 13 minutes is what we got from Fez on Tuesday if you edit out everything else (including the live read fez did and the promo for Franklyn): Listen to Fez Talk 6-15-10 11-3pm (http://www.filefreak.com/files/182723_sltqt/Complete-fez-6-15-10-64kbps.mp3)

[NewYorkDragons80]

Hurry up...someone be a 'snobby poster' and tell me to take my one post and fuck off :)

Take your three posts and fuck off
:thumbup:

[sailor]

nice font.

[dino_electropolis]

Alot more music being played uninterrupted on the show than before Dave left. It's almost like Ronnie giving a big f u to mngmt by replacing all the time Dave used to talk with some music beds that would play the whole song.

Just an observation

bring back Dave!!

[PD]

a) how can anyone still think this is a "bit"? Was Earl leaving a bit that is still waiting for a payoff?
b) why do people insist that Dave going is somehow going to make Fez return to his old glory? If Fez "comes back" it is because of other things. Fez's issues had nothing to do with Dave.
c) I am not going to get into who may or may not be over paid, but if you think that Fez is back to what he was in WNEW days you are deceiving yourself. I hope he comes back, but so far he's only really been on air when Ron drags him into it. If you like this show, fine. For me It ranks below the WNEW R&F, WJFK R&F, and XM R&F with ESD. You differ? you are entitled to your opinion.

[hanso]

Alot more music being played uninterrupted on the show than before Dave left. It's almost like Ronnie giving a big f u to mngmt by replacing all the time Dave used to talk with some music beds that would play the whole song.

Just an observation

bring back Dave!!

My local fm morning talk show started doing this. At first I thought the show ended earlier. Now I wait till the song ends to switch over.

[DoomVulture]

blowhard blowhard blowhard fuckin blowhard blowhard blowhard fuckin blowhaaaaaaaaaaaard.

blowhard blowhard blowhard fuckin blowhard blowhard blowhard fuckin blowhaaaaaaaaaaaard.

[IamFogHat]

Pepper is filling a void. Fez? Not so much. Just under 13 minutes is what we got from Fez on Tuesday if you edit out everything else (including the live read fez did and the promo for Franklyn): Listen to Fez Talk 6-15-10 11-3pm (http://www.filefreak.com/files/182723_sltqt/Complete-fez-6-15-10-64kbps.mp3)

That Fez is hilarious.

[DoomVulture]

Pepper is filling a void. Fez? Not so much. Just under 13 minutes is what we got from Fez on Tuesday if you edit out everything else (including the live read fez did and the promo for Franklyn): Listen to Fez Talk 6-15-10 11-3pm (http://www.filefreak.com/files/182723_sltqt/Complete-fez-6-15-10-64kbps.mp3)

Wow I know listening to this out of context takes a lot out, but holy shit...

[IamFogHat]

Pepper is filling a void. Fez? Not so much. Just under 13 minutes is what we got from Fez on Tuesday if you edit out everything else (including the live read fez did and the promo for Franklyn): Listen to Fez Talk 6-15-10 11-3pm (http://www.filefreak.com/files/182723_sltqt/Complete-fez-6-15-10-64kbps.mp3)

BTW, I did get a kick out of this, but whoever did it has way too much time on their hands.

[Serpico1103]

b) why do people insist that Dave going is somehow going to make Fez return to his old glory? If Fez "comes back" it is because of other things. Fez's issues had nothing to do with Dave.


Only in the sense that with ESD, Fez can be silent and the show is still a two host show. With ESD gone, Fez may get that extra push he needs to start talking. He got into the habit of being quiet, he can almost as easily get back into the habit of talking.
Ron too long enabled Fez's "quiet time." Maybe this will force Ron's hand. Pepper helps out, but he is no ESD (on the air).

Ron hit it on the head the other day, Fez is so afraid to speak his mind now. Maybe after he realized his secret, he became more and more afraid that anything he said would reveal his true self. After all, Fez is just a radio character, now we are getting more Todd. Todd was never on the air, it was always Fez. When Fez does bits, when there is an audience, goes on other shows, or dresses up, he falls into character and performs. When he is just sitting on the mic, he drops the character and becomes Todd.

Todd stinks, bring back Fez.

[IamFogHat]

Only in the sense that with ESD, Fez can be silent and the show is still a two host show. With ESD gone, Fez may get that extra push he needs to start talking. He got into the habit of being quiet, he can almost as easily get back into the habit of talking.
Ron too long enabled Fez's "quiet time." Maybe this will force Ron's hand. Pepper helps out, but he is no ESD (on the air).

Ron hit it on the head the other day, Fez is so afraid to speak his mind now. Maybe after he realized his secret, he became more and more afraid that anything he said would reveal his true self. After all, Fez is just a radio character, now we are getting more Todd. Todd was never on the air, it was always Fez. When Fez does bits, when there is an audience, goes on other shows, or dresses up, he falls into character and performs. When he is just sitting on the mic, he drops the character and becomes Todd.

Todd stinks, bring back Fez.

Yeah, I think you're spot on with everything you said. What are we coming up on with the secret being on the air, two years now?
Poor guy.

[Recyclerz]

As Big Bill Shakespeare once said:

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances


Everything's a bit but that doesn't mean East Side Red is coming back.

I wish him and his family well and hope he hits in a big way - some day, some way.

[knockknock]

These numbers are placeholders, just for illustration.

From SiriusXM's point of view, they budgeted $800K for the talent contract (the duo Ron and Fez) and $60K for the production. In their mind only 1 producer is required and the talent contract should cover the on-air activity. Why should they pay extra for Dave's on-air services? That should come out of the talent contract's responsibilities.

Fez should have kicked in some of his share. Ron has made it clear numerous times. Fez fired Dave.

[PapaBear]

Fez should have kicked in some of his share. Ron has made it clear numerous times. Fez fired Dave.
Ron didn't really mean that. If it was true, then Ron would have just as much responsibility to give Dave money. It's so ridiculous to think that the hosts should pay the producers.

[Dirtbag]

Ron didn't really mean that. If it was true, then Ron would have just as much responsibility to give Dave money. It's so ridiculous to think that the hosts should pay the producers.

Ron goes in and does his job every day, Fez doesn't. But that still doesn't mean its Fez's responsibility to give Dave some of his check.

[ChimneyFish]

Ron didn't really mean that. If it was true, then Ron would have just as much responsibility to give Dave money. It's so ridiculous to think that the hosts should pay the producers.

I love this too.
In what other job do "the higher ups" give some of their salary over to the "little guy"????
Pro Sports, when an athelete takes a pay cut so the team can grab some free agent help, is the only other thing I can think of.

[Suspect Chin]

Ron didn't really mean that. If it was true, then Ron would have just as much responsibility to give Dave money. It's so ridiculous to think that the hosts should pay the producers.

I think the point would be that Dave would transition from the '60k' producer pool of money to the '800k' on air talent pool of money. It would then be up to the three members of the talent pool to split that money accordingly.

[midwestjeff]

Maybe

The

Dingo

Ate

Your

David!

[Melk]

Would you give a significant portion of your salary because the young go-getter wants more money?

I am not suggesting that Fez deserves less money than he makes or that Dave deserves more money than he makes, but I wouldn't take a significant paycut to cover my struggling underling and I wouldn't take money from the guy who (problems or not) gave me my spot.

[Mogrits]

I think it's interesting that ALL of Dave's promos and bits are off the air now. I'm not sure if it was Ron's (the shows) idea or managements idea, but all instances of his voice are now missing.

I think Fez's next bit should be doing a couple of Davey Mac's bits, like Guy Guyerson or Board Gossip.

[MofongoK]

Ron didn't really mean that. If it was true, then Ron would have just as much responsibility to give Dave money. It's so ridiculous to think that the hosts should pay the producers.

Except that "Fez" hasn't been a host in years, even now in Dave's absence. "Fez" isn't really in existence anymore...that character is gone, and what we now have is Todd, who sits in silence most of the time and farts occasionally.

Ron is the only host.

Now that Dave's gone, Hicks is 2nd mic. That's fine by me because it's still better than anything else on radio, but let's not act like Todd is still there for any reason other than Ron's loyalty and the suits paying 0 attention to the show.

Todd has a contract and he's milking it. He's lucky he works for a company that doesn't pay any attention to his show so they still mail him a paycheck.

I can't imagine many other places where you could get away with this...

If I tuned into Letterman and Paul was just sitting in a corner week after week while another person led the band, I imagine someone would notice and you'd see a breach of contract lawsuit.

If I flip on the Daily Show and John Stewart sits in silence staring at his desk because his back hurts and he had a crappy ride to work, I'm sure someone at CC would notice and do something about it.

If my landscaper shows up and I see he's only done half the yard because he's depressed or has a toothache or whatever, you can bet he's not getting paid.

I'm not quite sure how anyone is still defending "Fez"'s future with the show.

I really hope SOMEONE at XM Sirius is paying attention.

The show has been nothing but call-in after call-in ...even the Dave haters have to admit the show was far more entertaining when he was pulling shit like bum rushing Rick Sanchez and we'd get to hear he and Ron working that out... now we get Fez complaining about gas pains or a shitty Chips Ahoy.

[ShowerBench]

Except that "Fez" hasn't been a host in years, even now in Dave's absence. "Fez" isn't really in existence anymore...that character is gone, and what we now have is Todd, who sits in silence most of the time and farts occasionally.

Ron is the only host.

Now that Dave's gone, Hicks is 2nd mic. That's fine by me because it's still better than anything else on radio, but let's not act like Todd is still there for any reason other than Ron's loyalty and the suits paying 0 attention to the show.

Todd has a contract and he's milking it. He's lucky he works for a company that doesn't pay any attention to his show so they still mail him a paycheck.

I can't imagine many other places where you could get away with this...

If I tuned into Letterman and Paul was just sitting in a corner week after week while another person led the band, I imagine someone would notice and you'd see a breach of contract lawsuit.

If I flip on the Daily Show and John Stewart sits in silence staring at his desk because his back hurts and he had a crappy ride to work, I'm sure someone at CC would notice and do something about it.

If my landscaper shows up and I see he's only done half the yard because he's depressed or has a toothache or whatever, you can bet he's not getting paid.

I'm not quite sure how anyone is still defending "Fez"'s future with the show.

I really hope SOMEONE at XM Sirius is paying attention.

The show has been nothing but call-in after call-in ...even the Dave haters have to admit the show was far more entertaining when he was pulling shit like bum rushing Rick Sanchez and we'd get to hear he and Ron working that out... now we get Fez complaining about gas pains or a shitty Chips Ahoy.

You're quite the vindictive little meddler, aren't you?

I think the show has been more entertaining over the last couple of weeks. I enjoy the caller participation and Pepper's contributions.

[MofongoK]

You're quite the vindictive little meddler, aren't you?

I think the show has been more entertaining over the last couple of weeks. I enjoy the caller participation and Pepper's contributions.


You must be a bottom.

[MofongoK]

You're quite the vindictive little meddler, aren't you?

I think the show has been more entertaining over the last couple of weeks. I enjoy the caller participation and Pepper's contributions.

by the way...caller participation and Pepper's contributions are all good, but it just reinforces what I'm saying - let's hope XM/Sirius is paying some attention so they at least know to rename the show "Ron & Pepper/Callers" when the current contract runs out.

[Bowel]

I miss Billy Staples so much.

[Dingbat_Charlie]

Pepper is filling a void. Fez? Not so much. Just under 13 minutes is what we got from Fez on Tuesday if you edit out everything else (including the live read fez did and the promo for Franklyn): Listen to Fez Talk 6-15-10 11-3pm (http://www.filefreak.com/files/182723_sltqt/Complete-fez-6-15-10-64kbps.mp3)


listening to this made me feel completely insane.

[ShowerBench]

by the way...caller participation and Pepper's contributions are all good, but it just reinforces what I'm saying - let's hope XM/Sirius is paying some attention so they at least know to rename the show "Ron & Pepper/Callers" when the current contract runs out.

Not sure why we as seekers of radio entertainment should "hope" for anything but a good show, which you and I agree we're getting.

[knockknock]

Sirius management knows all about Fez's non-participation. The reason they didn't pay Dave for being 2nd mic was because in their mind they already paid for a 2nd mic as part of their talent contract with Ron & Fez. Sirius wasn't going to jump in and save the show by throwing more money at on-air talent while Fez continues to deposit a full (and undeserved) paycheck.

Fez is not respected at Sirius among the suits or other staff. Remember when he was complaining about the AIDS walk and no one from the Sirius team would talk to him? Remember when he said the sales team don't like him? Remember everything Ron has said about how management views Fez? Staff at Sirius have contempt for this kind of coasting. It's a joke there that a big name radio guy speaks less than 15 minutes out of a 240 minute show and justifies it as "trying hard".

Fez should have done the right thing and sub-contracted a measly 10% of his talent share to Dave.

[fezident]

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[MofongoK]

Not sure why we as seekers of radio entertainment should "hope" for anything but a good show, which you and I agree we're getting.

We do agree that it's still a good show.

The problem is that a lot of us believe the show used to be better...and a lot of us believe there's some dead weight sitting there eating up budget that could be used to improve it.

Anyway, Ron could do the show with a corpse as cohost and it would still be entertaining.

[Kublakhan61]

Sirius management knows all about Fez's non-participation. The reason they didn't pay Dave for being 2nd mic was because in their mind they already paid for a 2nd mic as part of their talent contract with Ron & Fez. Sirius wasn't going to jump in and save the show by throwing more money at on-air talent while Fez continues to deposit a full (and undeserved) paycheck.

Fez is not respected at Sirius among the suits or other staff. Remember when he was complaining about the AIDS walk and no one from the Sirius team would talk to him? Remember when he said the sales team don't like him? Remember everything Ron has said about how management views Fez? Staff at Sirius have contempt for this kind of coasting. It's a joke there that a big name radio guy speaks less than 15 minutes out of a 240 minute show and justifies it as "trying hard".

Insider Information!!

[yojimbo7248]

Pepper is filling a void. Fez? Not so much. Just under 13 minutes is what we got from Fez on Tuesday if you edit out everything else (including the live read fez did and the promo for Franklyn): Listen to Fez Talk 6-15-10 11-3pm (http://www.filefreak.com/files/182723_sltqt/Complete-fez-6-15-10-64kbps.mp3)

This is so sad

[Serpico1103]

Today when talking about sequels that ruin the original, Fez said, "Friday the 13th was a good movie, not based on the supernatural, the sequels ruined it."
Ron responds with, "Let's break."

Fez's comment was constructive, a rarity but, Ron reacts by going to break. I think this happens often. Fez's legitimate contributions are ignored. If Ron wants Fez to return or add more, maybe he could consider encouraging it, instead of dismissing it.

Yeah, wrong thread.

Pay ESD!!

[disneyspy]

This is so sad

i agree,what kind of person times how much someone talks?

poor indymike needs to see a shrink

[helterskeletor]

Today when talking about sequels that ruin the original, Fez said, "Friday the 13th was a good movie, not based on the supernatural, the sequels ruined it."
Ron responds with, "Let's break."

Fez's comment was constructive, a rarity but, Ron reacts by going to break. I think this happens often. Fez's legitimate contributions are ignored. If Ron wants Fez to return or add more, maybe he could consider encouraging it, instead of dismissing it.

Yeah, wrong thread.

Pay ESD!!

Fez's comment was retarded. Like he doesn't even listen to the show he's a part of. Dave would have been able to jump right in, because he's paid attention to the other movie conversations they've had and knows that Friday the 13th wouldn't be considered a valid example.

Aside from that, Ron's tried to get him involved over and over again for years.

It's a lost cause, he doesn't contribute, let's bring on on-air talent that does and keep this train movin'.

Fez doesn't want to be there anyway. In any case it's just enabling him to allow him to be this dysfunctional as a human being and still put food on his plate.

[Bowel]

Dave was hired by SIRIUS/XM to work for the "Ron & Fez Show" as a producer.


Dave had a choice of either:

Working as a producer ... answering phones, booking guests, show research ...working behind the scene. Being given the chance to be an on-air personality instead of or in addition to producing.





Dave could have told Ron (and/or Fez) that he needs to focus more on the job which he was hired to do and could no longer devote his energy "co-hosting" the show.


It seems to me that Dave wanted to be hired by XM/SIRIUS as a co-host much like what Jim Norton is to O&A. XM/SIRIUS wasn't interested. They hired him as a producer and would be paid as a producer. Dave should have taken being an on-air personality as an OPORTUNITY and should have waited until Ron and Fez's contract with XM/SIRIUS expired to make his move and/or pitch to Ronnie. Ronnie B and Ron Diaz split and I can't see him or anyone tolerating Fez.

[Serpico1103]

Fez's comment was retarded. Like he doesn't even listen to the show he's a part of. Dave would have been able to jump right in, because he's paid attention to the other movie conversations they've had and knows that Friday the 13th wouldn't be considered a valid example.

Aside from that, Ron's tried to get him involved over and over again for years.

It's a lost cause, he doesn't contribute, let's bring on on-air talent that does and keep this train movin'.

Fez doesn't want to be there anyway. In any case it's just enabling him to allow him to be this dysfunctional as a human being and still put food on his plate.

I don't disagree with most of what you say.
But, I don't think Fez's comment was that retarded. Especially given the level to which he has sunk.
However, I do agree that Ron has enabled Fez.

[Bowel]

Today when talking about sequels that ruin the original, Fez said, "Friday the 13th was a good movie, not based on the supernatural, the sequels ruined it."
Ron responds with, "Let's break."

Fez's comment was constructive, a rarity but, Ron reacts by going to break. I think this happens often. Fez's legitimate contributions are ignored. If Ron wants Fez to return or add more, maybe he could consider encouraging it, instead of dismissing it.

Yeah, wrong thread.

Pay ESD!!




Fez probably meant to say "Halloween."


If I were in Ron's position, Fez would have been gone a long time ago. The fact that Ron is tolerating Fez for this long while still able to stay sober is shocking. Ron is going above and beyond "the call of duty."

[Serpico1103]

Fez probably meant to say "Halloween."


No, in the 1st Friday the 13th, Jason's mother is killing all the counselors who let her son, Jason, drown. She didn't have any supernatural powers, she was killed at the end.
The movie ends with Jason coming to life at the bottom of the lake (little corny, but it happens as the credits roll). That is a good story. Continuing it for 20 sequels involving NYC, space, remakes, constant rebirths- garbage.

[Suspect Chin]

Does anyone know for sure when their contract is up?

[ChimneyFish]

Tomorrow.

[Suspect Chin]

Tomorrow.

With lines like that, I say, ChimneyFish for 3rd mic.

[STC-Dub]

What is an OPORTUNITY?

[ChimneyFish]

With lines like that, I say, ChimneyFish for 3rd mic.

I demand $47,852.35.

Not a penny less.







Or more.

[ChimneyFish]

What is an OPORTUNITY?

It's what you get when your partner is a gun-toting racist.



Zing!!!!



:tongue:

[Suspect Chin]

I demand $47,852.35.

Not a penny less.

Or more.

Fair enough. I'll even throw in $3000 a month for day care.

[Serpico1103]

Fair enough. I'll even throw in $3000 a month for day care.

First, call his wife a bad mother.

[ChimneyFish]

Christ Almighty.



I laughed at both of those posts.

[rascal_helper]

Only in the sense that with ESD, Fez can be silent and the show is still a two host show. With ESD gone, Fez may get that extra push he needs to start talking.

Today was pretty much all the proof I needed that that isn't going to happen. I was hoping that was the case. I called XM and canceled my subscription. Fed up with the whole thing. Fez is a big shitburger.

[Suspect Chin]

Today was pretty much all the proof I needed that that isn't going to happen. I was hoping that was the case. I called XM and canceled my subscription. Fed up with the whole thing. Fez is a big shitburger.

You got them good!

[ChimneyFish]

Today was pretty much all the proof I needed that that isn't going to happen. I was hoping that was the case. I called XM and canceled my subscription. Fed up with the whole thing. Fez is a big shitburger.

You got them good!

Oh, how I laughed at this.

[rascal_helper]

You got them good!

Mission accomplished.... maaaaaaaaannnnnn.

[spoon]

Can we label this thread "clusterfuck" please?

It really is the only way to sum up all these new pile on fuckup posters.

Please tell me more inside info on a show based solely on your fucking bias alone. Shut the fuck up.

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[Serpico1103]

Mission accomplished.... maaaaaaaaannnnnn.

You should have just had all your board characters write letters. You join the board just to announce you are canceling your subscription. Yeah, Ok.

[Philly Franko]

Love Fez, I think he is Dyslexic... It would explain his getting confused more than ever...he gets his Meds mixed up and needs to drink 8 ounces of water or more with meds...Do not take Deppression meds with Diabetes...Fez needs to keep his blood sugar stable, and a pill is NOT going to do that...Fez has the money to hire someone like Kenny...He helps Opie and Jimmy...he can drive Fez or get him a cab/Limo...Fez should NOT take trains /subway as they Freak him out...He needs to Eat Healthy and get a Little Exercise. And the #1 thing is he needs to listen to Ronnie B and FIRE that aweful (stealing fezzies money) Shrink. He has gotten much worse in last few years...Pay a Great Shrink that Celebs/Yankees players Use and get a Therapist who helps him ,rather than steal his money. All them Great places to eat and Fez Eats at the same 3 places all week ? WHY ? Live a Little, when he stopped watching wrestling I was hoping he would go out that night and meet some people...Get an Escourt and Stop Worrying about EVERYTHING. I really Love Fez, and want him to get back to his Normal old Self.

[Melk]

Today was pretty much all the proof I needed that that isn't going to happen. I was hoping that was the case. I called XM and canceled my subscription. Fed up with the whole thing. Fez is a big shitburger.
You should consider pushing Mr. MacDonald to start a podcast that you and the others who are against his quitting can pay him $12.95 a month to do. If Dave could get even a 10th of his current Twitter followers to pony up, his financial troubles would go away and you could have your daily Dave.

[helterskeletor]

Love Fez, I think he is Dyslexic... It would explain his getting confused more than ever...he gets his Meds mixed up and needs to drink 8 ounces of water or more with meds...Do not take Deppression meds with Diabetes...Fez needs to keep his blood sugar stable, and a pill is NOT going to do that...Fez has the money to hire someone like Kenny...He helps Opie and Jimmy...he can drive Fez or get him a cab/Limo...Fez should NOT take trains /subway as they Freak him out...He needs to Eat Healthy and get a Little Exercise. And the #1 thing is he needs to listen to Ronnie B and FIRE that aweful (stealing fezzies money) Shrink. He has gotten much worse in last few years...Pay a Great Shrink that Celebs/Yankees players Use and get a Therapist who helps him ,rather than steal his money. All them Great places to eat and Fez Eats at the same 3 places all week ? WHY ? Live a Little, when he stopped watching wrestling I was hoping he would go out that night and meet some people...Get an Escourt and Stop Worrying about EVERYTHING. I really Love Fez, and want him to get back to his Normal old Self.

Please tell me this post is a joke. People, myself included, have been saying this shit for YEARS. Give it up. Ain't gonna happen. And let's say somehow he gets back to himself from 10 years ago, fucker still wasn't that funny!

[yojimbo7248]

I really Love Fez, and want him to get back to his Normal old Self.

For better or worse, this person doesn't exist anymore. Hopefully Fez will learn how to handle his fears and will become stronger. But then he will be something different. There is no way he can go back to being his 'normal old self'.

I don't think getting a new therapist will necessarily help him get healthier. Fez clearly hears what he wants to hear. Best example is his dealing with the heart condition. Unbelievable that he still eats shit food and doesn't exercise. There isn't a medical professional on the planet who would agree with him that all he needs to do is take his heart medicine and not worry about his diet or whether he exercises or not. I'm sure a doctor has told him to eat better and exercise but he has somehow twisted it around in his head. Same could be happening with the therapist.

I don't have much hope that he can get himself out of this hole since he isn't willing to do anything difficult. It's a shame that he tends to see himself as the victim so much. Nothing like self-pity to keep someone from honestly assessing a bad situation and making uncomfortable decisions.

[Melk]

I don't think getting a new therapist will necessarily help him get healthier. Fez clearly hears what he wants to hear.
I think Fez behaves the way he does because he believes his problem is outside of himself. Someone has to fix him. Pills will cure him. No exercise. No introspection. No apologies.

I don't think he hears what he wants to hear, he listens to everything people tell him. He just will only take action on things that require other people taking action for him.

Fez has even said, "[he wishes] his parents had pushed [him] harder." Knowing this fact, it is clear what Ron needs to do.

[NewYorkDragons80]

This is so sad

I try to avoid saying "+1", but here I am.

[MofongoK]

Knowing this fact, it is clear what Ron needs to do.

Leave him in the dust?

[Death Metal Moe]

Please tell me this post is a joke. People, myself included, have been saying this shit for YEARS. Give it up. Ain't gonna happen. And let's say somehow he gets back to himself from 10 years ago, fucker still wasn't that funny!

If you don't think 1/2 the show is funny, find another show and stop wasting our time here on a Ron and Fez message board.

Fez is brilliant, has his problems, but back in the day was always on fire. You're in no position to give your opinion if you think old Fez wasn't funny. You're pretty much just not a fan at that point.

[indymike]

i agree,what kind of person times how much someone talks?

poor indymike needs to see a shrink

I'm sure it took less time than the hours some people spend defending a bad decision by sirius management on message boards and actually made a point that is hard to argue - that fez contributed almost nothing to the show on that date - partly because Ron totally ignores ate least half of what he says and cuts him off a great deal of the time.

[Misteriosa]

Mission accomplished.... maaaaaaaaannnnnn.

rascal?! is that you?!?!

EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! <<<<3333333

[MofongoK]

If you don't think 1/2 the show is funny, find another show and stop wasting our time here on a Ron and Fez message board.

Fez is brilliant, has his problems, but back in the day was always on fire. You're in no position to give your opinion if you think old Fez wasn't funny. You're pretty much just not a fan at that point.

I loved Fez on WNEW, late night and days...loved him on JFK. In theory, I love him today, but let's not lie and say he's 1/2 the show, unless you're only referring to the name of the show.

If someone new heard the show for the past few weeks without knowing the name (and, hypothetically, somehow missed it being said on air), they would assume it was the Ron show. Fez is less of a presence on the show than Hicks now, and if they happen to have HTG or anyone else in studio that day, less of a presence than that person.

I love the guy, but he left the airwaves long ago.

[foodcourtdruide]

Fez probably meant to say "Halloween."


If I were in Ron's position, Fez would have been gone a long time ago. The fact that Ron is tolerating Fez for this long while still able to stay sober is shocking. Ron is going above and beyond "the call of duty."

I can't imagine Fez is planning on staying for another contract or pro-longing his radio career. He barely participates in the show and either sounds extremely uncomfortable when he does, or simply starts crying. It's difficult to listen to. I'm only on May 3rd on Audible, so it may have gotten better. However, I catch bits and pieces of live shows and it sounds exactly the same.

[foodcourtdruide]

I loved Fez on WNEW, late night and days...loved him on JFK. In theory, I love him today, but let's not lie and say he's 1/2 the show, unless you're only referring to the name of the show.

If someone new heard the show for the past few weeks without knowing the name (and, hypothetically, somehow missed it being said on air), they would assume it was the Ron show. Fez is less of a presence on the show than Hicks now, and if they happen to have HTG or anyone else in studio that day, less of a presence than that person.

I love the guy, but he left the airwaves long ago.

At one point, Fez was certainly half the show, Right now, he is definitely not.

[yojimbo7248]

Fez seeking career advice from a comedy writer is a good indication he is looking at other career paths

[Chigworthy]

Fez seeking career advice from a comedy writer is a good indication he is looking at other career paths

A)This is a humorless joke

or

B)You don't get the show. Go away.

[Rhah]

partly because Ron totally ignores at least half of what he says and cuts him off a great deal of the time.

This is it right here. But maybe its a new Ronnie work. Serpico was right... the Friday the 13th comment was a fine contribution to the conversation and Fez was ignored.

[rascal_helper]

rascal?! is that you?!?!

EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! <<<<3333333

Ooh, a friendly face. Hi!

[booster11373]

Has the Ron Fez on air dynamic changed since Dave left? I stopped listening a few months ago.

[sink]

If you don't think 1/2 the show is funny, find another show and stop wasting our time here on a Ron and Fez message board.

Fez is brilliant, has his problems, but back in the day was always on fire. You're in no position to give your opinion if you think old Fez wasn't funny. You're pretty much just not a fan at that point.

If Fez is brilliant we are a nation of fucked.

And who is this metal moe guy that says who can and can't have an opinion voice it?

[Death Metal Moe]

If Fez is brilliant we are a nation of fucked.

And who is this metal moe guy that says who can and can't have an opinion voice it?

I'm the handsome voice of reason on this board. Suck me dry bitchez.

[yojimbo7248]

A)This is a humorless joke

or

B)You don't get the show. Go away.

I have listened off and on over the last couple of days. I clearly got it wrong. I thought Fez was getting career tips from a comedy writer but then had his feelings hurt because the writer, Valanch or something, didn't want to be his mentor. Seemed reasonable to think that Fez was thinking of doing some comedy writing outside of the show.

Good point about not getting the show. I don't get it. Now that Dave is gone, I get bored and/or frustrated when I listen. Good time to leave this messageboard and stop listening to the show.

[sink]

I'm the handsome voice of reason on this board. Suck me dry bitchez.

by suck you dry, you mean you like men to suck on your penis?

No wonder you stick up for Fez.

[disneyspy]

for those of you keeping score at home its

sink-1
moe-0

[SinFiction]

Moe and Shower Bench are the reasons this board has turned to total shit. It's on the same level as wackbag in terms of awfulness. Fez is an old lady who doesn't even know how to be gay.

[foodcourtdruide]

Moe and Shower Bench are the reasons this board has turned to total shit. It's on the same level as wackbag in terms of awfulness. Fez is an old lady who doesn't even know how to be gay.

lol, you've had 76 posts in 3 years!

[styckx]

If you don't think 1/2 the show is funny, find another show and stop wasting our time here on a Ron and Fez message board.

Fez is brilliant, has his problems, but back in the day was always on fire. You're in no position to give your opinion if you think old Fez wasn't funny. You're pretty much just not a fan at that point.

Are you an out of work lawyer too?

[ChimneyFish]

Good time to leave this messageboard and stop listening to the show.

Phhhheeeewwww........







Now that that guy is gone, bring out the cake.

[Death Metal Moe]

for those of you keeping score at home its

sink-1
moe-0

Pfff. not by my score keeping. That was a lame attempt at a come back.
Just because you don't like me, don't give stock, hack insults a point.

[Death Metal Moe]

Moe and Shower Bench are the reasons this board has turned to total shit. It's on the same level as wackbag in terms of awfulness. Fez is an old lady who doesn't even know how to be gay.

I'm very glad I could ruin your Ronfez.net experience.

[Rhah]

A lot of the people upset with the show now must not know how to read box scores themselves and miss all the Yankees homer talk from Dave everyday.

Or they like dog and peanut butter stories.

[Death Metal Moe]

A lot of the people upset with the show now must also know nothing of the history of the Ron and Fez show, it's many changes, it's ups and downs and it's uncanny ability to remain funny in the face of all adversity.

[PD]

A lot of the people upset with the show now must also know nothing of the history of the Ron and Fez show, it's many changes, it's ups and downs and it's uncanny ability to remain funny in the face of all adversity.
you keep spouting that but it doesn't mean its always better.

They are now in the midst of one of those 10 min youtube on radio bits.

since dave left there has been nothing memorable.

Ron is brilliant. Fez used to be funny.
I don't see either of them though anywhere near the top of their game now.

[paulisded]

you keep spouting that but it doesn't mean its always better.

They are now in the midst of one of those 10 min youtube on radio bits.

since dave left there has been nothing memorable.

Ron is brilliant. Fez used to be funny.
I don't see either of them though anywhere near the top of their game now.

^^^This.

[Death Metal Moe]

you keep spouting that but it doesn't mean its always better.

They are now in the midst of one of those 10 min youtube on radio bits.

since dave left there has been nothing memorable.

Ron is brilliant. Fez used to be funny.
I don't see either of them though anywhere near the top of their game now.

OK, then give up on them. I don't really care what you do. I know they're funny and so do most of us here.

[indymike]

lol, you've had 76 posts in 3 years!

HA!! You told him... not like me with 250 in 4 years... 'cause we all know post counts reveal your level of fandom and knowledge about R&F or O&A or whatever.

[BostonIdol]

A lot of the people upset with the show now must also know nothing of the history of the Ron and Fez show, it's many changes, it's ups and downs and it's uncanny ability to remain funny in the face of all adversity.

So because the show was funny in the past, means it's funny in the present? :glurps:

[PD]

OK, then give up on them. I don't really care what you do. I know they're funny and so do most of us here.
this is why you tick people off Moe.

There is middle ground between giving up on them and feeling show is at its best.:wallbash:

[SinFiction]

OK, then give up on them. I don't really care what you do. I know they're funny and so do most of us here.

I now know why your name is Death Metal Moe.

[Serpico1103]

If you don't think 1/2 the show is funny, find another show and stop wasting our time here on a Ron and Fez message board.

Fez is brilliant, has his problems, but back in the day was always on fire. You're in no position to give your opinion if you think old Fez wasn't funny. You're pretty much just not a fan at that point.

Sadly, a 1/2 funny R&f show is still funnier than anything else on the radio. If I could listen to the Ron&AnyoneElse Show I would.
Old Fez was funny. Too bad I have to listen to Ron and New Fez.

[knockknock]

Moe, Fez is retiring at the end of this contract period. What are your thoughts on this? Is it the listeners' fault or Fez's fault that Sirius won't re-sign him?

[Death Metal HoMoe]

Old Fez from the mighty WJFK days was funny as hell but since he got to SiriusXM he fell off. That said, I never cared much for Davey Mac. He always talked too much baseball and interrupted Ron during a good rant. I don't miss him. Ron needs a new co-host that is neither of those two. Perhaps Crazy Jen.

[Serpico1103]

Moe, Fez is retiring at the end of this contract period. What are your thoughts on this? Is it the listeners' fault or Fez's fault that Sirius won't re-sign him?

Is Mother Hilliard a choice?

[Sloppy2nds]

Moe, Fez is retiring at the end of this contract period. What are your thoughts on this? Is it the listeners' fault or Fez's fault that Sirius won't re-sign him?

I thought they just signed a new contract.

[Serpico1103]

I thought they just signed a new contract.

That was a bit.

[Death Metal Moe]

Moe, Fez is retiring at the end of this contract period. What are your thoughts on this? Is it the listeners' fault or Fez's fault that Sirius won't re-sign him?

You have no proof of this, but if he does then I will miss him greatly because he's a very funny broadcaster.

That's about it. Him retiring doesn't prove or disprove anything, people move on from radio, like Dave did.

[PD]

Old Fez from the mighty WJFK days was funny as hell but since he got to SiriusXM he fell off. That said, I never cared much for Davey Mac. He always talked too much baseball and interrupted Ron during a good rant. I don't miss him. Ron needs a new co-host that is neither of those two. Perhaps Crazy Jen.

While I don't agree with you about Davey Mac, I can at least understand that idea.

[Death Metal Moe]

Blah blah blah.

Wow, you're the 1st one to ever try this shtick. Good job on originality.

I guess ya got me....

oh wait, no you didn't. You're a fuck up. :king:

[indymike]

I know they're funny and so do most of us here.

I'm sure the majority of the board appreciates you speaking for them.

I think Ron is very funny, I know fez can be very funny, but its been a long time since he was - hope he figures it out soon - but considering its been two years since he revealed his 'secret' to Ron and he still has yet to formely reveal it to anyone else - I'd say the odds are long.

[Death Metal Moe]

I now know why your name is Death Metal Moe.

Well, there's an insult that fell quite flat. It looks more like a statement.

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm sure the majority of the board appreciates you speaking for them.



Well if a majority of the board doesn't find the show funny they've been wasting their fucking time coming on a fan board for Ron and Fez. So I assume that a majority of the people here find the show funny.

And that doesn't speak for the majority of fans who just listen and don't bother to come to a message board to post.

[PD]

Well if a majority of the board doesn't find the show funny they've been wasting their fucking time coming on a fan board for Ron and Fez. So I assume that a majority of the people here find the show funny.

And that doesn't speak for the majority of fans who just listen and don't bother to come to a message board to post.

you lose every time you try and use logic.

The majority of fans have been here over a long time. That means at one time they liked the show- not necessarily now.

the listening thread was about 15 pages last year; its lucky to get 6 this year.
you yourself left to post more on wackbag.

the idea that the board exists does not help your argument.

also as i said before many here WANT the show to be good- it is only you who seem to insist "All is well" no matter what - and you get annoyed when people disagree.
http://resolutedetermination.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/alliswell1.jpg

the whole "don't post if you are negative" was done better at wackbag.

[SinFiction]

Well, there's an insult that fell quite flat. It looks more like a statement.

It was a statement. Your a flaming homo.

[sink]

I think this Moe guy has spunk and like that he is the press secretary for this place.

[Serpico1103]

Well if a majority of the board doesn't find the show funny they've been wasting their fucking time coming on a fan board for Ron and Fez. So I assume that a majority of the people here find the show funny.
And that doesn't speak for the majority of fans who just listen and don't bother to come to a message board to post.

I would guess a majority of the board finds the Ron and Fez show funny because they find Ron funny, but a majority do not find Fez funny to any great extent. Now, I listen to the R&F show for Fez, as much as I listen for the new intern Stephanie.

[PD]

I think this Moe guy has spunk and like that he is the press secretary for this place.

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[indymike]

And that doesn't speak for the majority of fans who just listen and don't bother to come to a message board to post.

Hmmm - people noticed a lot of 'new' names popping up when dave left the show and chalked it up to people afraid to complain with their regular account. I suspect that they are actually fans that have heard dave for the last 4 1/2 years on the show and are not happy he left.

You have no way of knowing what the majority of the 'fans' feel.

The majority of the world has no clue what 'satellite' radio even is.

btw - to the TOPIC of this thread.

Its still not a 'bit.' Dave is gone and it sucks for the majority of the listeners who loved hearing him every day.

[sink]

I do miss that Dave

[Death Metal Moe]

It was a statement. Your a flaming homo.

...oh.

[styckx]

Moe is no Bam but both share similar traits of blind loyalty in the desperate hope it propels them to the next level of success in life that only a niche radio show on a failing platform can do.

[Death Metal Moe]

You have no way of knowing what the majority of the 'fans' feel.



And neither do you. Yet you keep refuting what I say with your own opinion like it's more right than mine. That's very interesting. Wait, no it's not.

New names popping up happens all the time, it's not an indication of anything but a major event happening.

I never said Dave leaving wasn't a major event, I simply said the show will be funny without him.

[Death Metal Moe]

Moe is no Bam but both share similar traits of blind loyalty in the desperate hope it propels them to the next level of success in life that only a niche radio show on a failing platform can do.

And with that statement you show you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and are grasping for insult straws at this point.

[disneyspy]

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[Death Metal Moe]

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Whatever it is, if you posted it, I'm glad my Firefox settings don't allow it to load.

[disneyspy]

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[StatenIslandSoxFan]

dave has red hair and a beard.

[Death Metal Moe]

dave has red hair and a beard.

Finally, a post I can agree with 100%! :clap:

[helterskeletor]

you keep spouting that but it doesn't mean its always better.

They are now in the midst of one of those 10 min youtube on radio bits.

since dave left there has been nothing memorable.

Ron is brilliant. Fez used to be funny.
I don't see either of them though anywhere near the top of their game now.

You're fucking insane. Ronnie is still brilliant, it's just diluted by having to fill all four fucking hours.

[indymike]

And neither do you. Yet you keep refuting what I say with your own opinion like it's more right than mine. That's very interesting. Wait, no it's not.

Not exactly.... I keep refuting your opinion and pointing out why you are wrong when you throw out statements that appear to 'speak for the majority.'

I don't claim to speak for any majority - oh wait - I did speak for the majority of the world not knowing about sat radio. Ya got me.

[PD]

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i definitely chuckled at that

[PD]

You're fucking insane. Ronnie is still brilliant, it's just diluted by having to fill all four fucking hours.

so how is that insane if I say he's not on top of his game? you don't seem to be saying something that much different than I did

[indymike]

You're fucking insane. Ronnie is still brilliant, it's just diluted by having to fill all four fucking hours.

All he said was Ron isn't at the top of his game. If you want to blame it on fatigue I can agree - but personally I hear a lot of apathy in his voice lately.

Then again others hear ESD chuckling in the background of the show so it might all be in my head.

[helterskeletor]

All he said was Ron isn't at the top of his game. If you want to blame it on fatigue I can agree - but personally I hear a lot of apathy in his voice lately.

Then again others hear ESD chuckling in the background of the show so it might all be in my head.

I'm just saying he's as funny as he ever was but now it's spread out over 4 hours because there's not a lot of good fodder to jump off of. Hicks is doing the best he can but he doesn't have the kind of personality to occasionally jump out in front for a bit.

[indymike]

I'm just saying he's as funny as he ever was but now it's spread out over 4 hours because there's not a lot of good fodder to jump off of. Hicks is doing the best he can but he doesn't have the kind of personality to occasionally jump out in front for a bit.

I guess I can see your point. But my argument would be that Ron was in part responsible for the situation he is now in. That to me says he isn't @ the top of his game, he made a mistake in letting Dave go and I believe that if Ron really wanted to - he could have saved Dave and made it work.

[sailor]

Can we lay off the personal attacks and stick to the topic at hand? Thanks in advance

[knockknock]

Fez is totally clueless about how bad he's been the past few years. This is part of his sickness--he's not a deep thinker, he's not self-reflective, and he doesn't have normal empathy and perception that would let him see outside of himself.

Fez knows he locks up and stays quiet for most of the 4 hour radio show, but he's so self-centered that it doesn't register with him that such behavior is unacceptable for a radio personality, especially over a period of years. Fez is arrogant, like Ron said. He feels that his name is on the show so all he has to do is clock in prior to air time and clock out after air time. He's offended if callers ask why he's not talking.

Fez attacks other staff at Sirius for not catering to him with detailed information about the AIDS walk or for not being his OutQ astronaut friends. He alienates people. Bruce Vilanch didn't give him enough attention so he attacked Bruce on air.

What I would love to see Ron do is call in sick from time to time and force Fez to do the show solo. Just like when Opie or Anthony switch off. But since we know Fez will weasel out and cancel that day's show, the better thing would be for Ron to leave the room periodically, unexpectedly, and force Fez to run the show for longer stretches. Force his hand. Put Fez in his ultimate discomfort zone. Basically make him shit or get off the pot and retire sooner rather than later. Fez doesn't have the capacity to understand that he's pulling Ron down with him if he keeps it up.

[Death Metal Moe]

Now some of you are turning on Ronnie?

You're fucking clueless complainers. I no longer wonder why the show have abandoned the board.

[Suspect Chin]

Now some of you are turning on Ronnie?

You're fucking clueless complainers. I no longer wonder why the show have abandoned the board.

Stop being such a company man toeing the line. Ron will always give you the "Whoo Ahh!" after your sandwich joke if you defend him on here or not.

I think Ron is to blame to some extent because A.) he runs Fez down worse than anyone else and B.) There had to have been something he could have done to help Dave.

[spoon]

I guess I can see your point. But my argument would be that Ron was in part responsible for the situation he is now in. That to me says he isn't @ the top of his game, he made a mistake in letting Dave go and I believe that if Ron really wanted to - he could have saved Dave and made it work.

Stop being such a company man toeing the line. Ron will always give you the "Whoo Ahh!" after your sandwich joke if you defend him on here or not.

I think Ron is to blame to some extent because A.) he runs Fez down worse than anyone else and B.) There had to have been something he could have done to help Dave.

SC is exactly right in my mind. Stop star fucking people and realize Ron is just as fucked up, if not more than most here. Look at the crew he surrounds himself and the likes of those he befriends like Fred, Chris and bang buddy. Sorry, let's stop acting like he's some fucking saint and has nothing to do with the fallout we now call the r/f show.

Just a few years back it was a fun show for everyone, now it's some inside party that really isn't so great. Perhaps the beach party luau was the defining moment when the show went from a free form chill show, to a cool club for fuck ups and whores.

[Suspect Chin]

What happened at the beach party luau?

[Brad_Rush]

SC is exactly right in my mind. Stop star fucking people and realize Ron is just as fucked up, if not more than most here. Look at the crew he surrounds himself and the likes of those he befriends like Fred, Chris and bang buddy. Sorry, let's stop acting like he's some fucking saint and has nothing to do with the fallout we now call the r/f show.

Just a few years back it was a fun show for everyone, now it's some inside party that really isn't so great. Perhaps the beach party luau was the defining moment when the show went from a free form chill show, to a cool club for fuck ups and whores.

Then stop listening! Jeez, you guys are asses. If you don't like the show anymore stop posting here and stop listening. Dave is not coming back, Fez isn't going to change, Ron is going to keep enabling. We all realize this and some of us enjoy the show anyway.

[Suspect Chin]

Then stop listening! Jeez, you guys are asses. If you don't like the show anymore stop posting here and stop listening. Dave is not coming back, Fez isn't going to change, Ron is going to keep enabling. We all realize this and some of us enjoy the show anyway.

Who said they hated the show? I still love it and listen every day. Think of it as post game analysis. You can break down why your team lost after the game and assign blame where it's due, but it doesn't mean you now hate the team.

[Serpico1103]

Now some of you are turning on Ronnie?

You're fucking clueless complainers. I no longer wonder why the show have abandoned the board.

Is the show as funny as it used to be? Don't take the cowardly out of saying it is different. Yes, it is different, but I don't think anyone can honestly say they didn't enjoy the show more years ago; not that they don't enjoy the show still, just not as much.

Would do you blame? Ron, Fez, ESD, Earl, Sirius, XM, Pepper, someone else.

[styckx]

Now some of you are turning on Ronnie?

You're fucking clueless complainers. I no longer wonder why the show have abandoned the board.

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[helterskeletor]

Now some of you are turning on Ronnie?

You're fucking clueless complainers. I no longer wonder why the show have abandoned the board.

I can only speak for myself but Ronnie's the funniest motherfucker on the planet. Fucking Carlin couldn't entertain me every day like Ronnie can.

I still enjoy the fuck out of the show, but there was something exciting about the show with Dave aside from him being able to roll with topics and stuff. You never knew if you were going to hit one of those insane throw-down shows where Dave would decide to go against someone directly. Think of the Earl's grandmother bit, the day Franklyn came in to talk about the ziti, or the day Fez went up against Freddie. You could also include the Big A bit since Dave fed him the lines. It was great because it added to the wrestling-type angles that the show plays on.

This situation is very simple: Fez gets paid and doesn't contribute. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. On no scale does he deserve to keep cashing that enormous check. It's not the biggest injustice on the planet, but it's still fucking absurd.

And I have .mp3s of shows going back to '01. Frankly, the Ron and Dave era was better.

[Knowledged_one]

I'm just saying he's as funny as he ever was but now it's spread out over 4 hours because there's not a lot of good fodder to jump off of. Hicks is doing the best he can but he doesn't have the kind of personality to occasionally jump out in front for a bit.

He dug his own grave now he has to lie in it, forgive me if i dont cry a river for what he has allowed the show to become.

[Knowledged_one]

I can only speak for myself but Ronnie's the funniest motherfucker on the planet. Fucking Carlin couldn't entertain me every day like Ronnie can.

I still enjoy the fuck out of the show, but there was something exciting about the show with Dave aside from him being able to roll with topics and stuff. You never knew if you were going to hit one of those insane throw-down shows where Dave would decide to go against someone directly. Think of the Earl's grandmother bit, the day Franklyn came in to talk about the ziti, or the day Fez went up against Freddie. You could also include the Big A bit since Dave fed him the lines. It was great because it added to the wrestling-type angles that the show plays on.

This situation is very simple: Fez gets paid and doesn't contribute. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. On no scale does he deserve to keep cashing that enormous check. It's not the biggest injustice on the planet, but it's still fucking absurd.

And I have .mp3s of shows going back to '01. Frankly, the Ron and Dave era was better.

Funniest on the planet huh, Carlin cant touch him
When you make asinine statements like that you lose all credibility
He's so funny hes got a low rent show that doesnt reach what 10% of the US because its a pay service, yet he is somehow the funniest on the planet..........gotcha champ

[ShowerBench]

And I have .mp3s of shows going back to '01. Frankly, the Ron and Dave era was better.

LOL

[ShowerBench]

Funniest on the planet huh, Carlin cant touch him
When you make asinine statements like that you lose all credibility
He's so funny hes got a low rent show that doesnt reach what 10% of the US because its a pay service, yet he is somehow the funniest on the planet..........gotcha champ

That's right. Everyone knows Howard Stern is the funniest on the planet because he's enjoyed enormous commercial success relative to all others.

[Suspect Chin]

LOL

Uh oh look who arrived to defend Fez.

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[Knowledged_one]

That's right. Everyone knows Howard Stern is the funniest on the planet because he's enjoyed enormous commercial success relative to all others.

No but hes widely recognized and well known then Ron Bennington could ever hope to be, and i never made the analogy that Howard Stern was the funniest person on the planet, but nice try putting words in my mouth

wanna go for double jeopardy where the scores can really change

[ShowerBench]

Stop being such a company man toeing the line. Ron will always give you the "Whoo Ahh!" after your sandwich joke if you defend him on here or not.


Yeah, DMM. Stop slavishly toeing the Ron and Fez line at ronfez.net.

SC is exactly right in my mind. Stop star fucking people and realize Ron is just as fucked up, if not more than most here. Look at the crew he surrounds himself and the likes of those he befriends like Fred, Chris and bang buddy. Sorry, let's stop acting like he's some fucking saint and has nothing to do with the fallout we now call the r/f show.

Nobody who isn't Dave is funny or otherwise good.

Is the show as funny as it used to be? Don't take the cowardly out of saying it is different. Yes, it is different, but I don't think anyone can honestly say they didn't enjoy the show more years ago; not that they don't enjoy the show still, just not as much.

I can honestly say I enjoy the show just as much as years ago. I think the late night time slot worked best, BUT having listened to some of the shows over the last couple of weeks later at night - it is every bit as funny as it ever was.

Obviously this means I am in deep, cowardly denial.

[Chigworthy]

No but hes widely recognized and well known then Ron Bennington could ever hope to be, and i never made the analogy that Howard Stern was the funniest person on the planet, but nice try putting words in my mouth

wanna go for double jeopardy where the scores can really change

I think she(he?) was pointing out that you were gauging Ron's "funniness" by his success in that you sarcastically qualified it with a description of the amount of people he reaches on his "low-rent" show.

[Knowledged_one]

I think she(he?) was pointing out that you were gauging Ron's "funniness" by his success in that you sarcastically qualified it with a description of the amount of people he reaches on his "low-rent" show.

Yeah well pretty much that is what i was saying, that the funniest person "on the planet" would not be toiling away on a satelite radio show plain and simple. If you are the best in your field you are routinely recognized by the people in the know in the industry or the buzz of the fans and sorry to say that is not what you get with Ron Bennington.

But again to draw an analogy of comedy and best on the planet to the Ron and Fez show and Howard Stern is a leap of faith that not even Steve Martin would make

[Melk]

I'd prefer the show with Dave, but enjoy the show without him.

I don't blame Ron or Fez for his leaving. I don't believe Ron has the stroke to strongarm Sirius/XM.

The suits, according to Ron, were on board with the plan to up Dave's pay. They were overruled by someone above them. I don't blame them either.

I blame the person/people who lowballed Dave. And I blame Dave for living beyond his means and hotshotting his life without having the money to pay for it.

[Melk]

But again to draw an analogy of comedy and best on the planet to the Ron and Fez show and Howard Stern is a leap of faith that not even Steve Martin would make
A-gee-gee-gee!

[indymike]

I can honestly say I enjoy the show just as much as years ago. I think the late night time slot worked best, BUT having listened to some of the shows over the last couple of weeks later at night - it is every bit as funny as it ever was.

What are you drinking late at night? As funny as it ever was?

I've only been listening since XM - however I have an extensive collection of shows dating back to WNEW and there is no way in hell any show in the last two weeks has been anywhere near as entertaining as the average show from JFK or NEW - hell - the CBS show from a couple years ago were radio gold compared to the last couple weeks.

[PapaBear]

BUT having listened to some of the shows over the last couple of weeks later at night - it is every bit as funny as it ever was.
Listening later at night makes it funnier? Huh? :unsure:

[spoon]

Is the show as funny as it used to be? Don't take the cowardly out of saying it is different. Yes, it is different, but I don't think anyone can honestly say they didn't enjoy the show more years ago; not that they don't enjoy the show still, just not as much.

Would do you blame? Ron, Fez, ESD, Earl, Sirius, XM, Pepper, someone else.

I blame the blacks...and kevin.

[spoon]

Then stop listening! Jeez, you guys are asses. If you don't like the show anymore stop posting here and stop listening. Dave is not coming back, Fez isn't going to change, Ron is going to keep enabling. We all realize this and some of us enjoy the show anyway.

Who said they hated the show? I still love it and listen every day. Think of it as post game analysis. You can break down why your team lost after the game and assign blame where it's due, but it doesn't mean you now hate the team.

Well, as SC stated you're simply grasping at straws. We never said we hate the show, we stated a different angle on this topic and this board. This board isn't just based on ass kissing either and frankly it's boring and disgusting. I guess you can continue to post here thinking the show reads every one of our posts and somehow, someway you'll be the hero of bullshit. Or you can discuss this reasonably and realize there are other point of views and some actually don't give two fucks if it hurts your fragile view of the show or the feelings of on-air talent we openly listen to almost daily and support overall. I really don't get people at this point, but I guess it's our culture now to star fuck on every level and never question them bc they have a mic in front of them right. Not that we really ran anyone down to be honest, they're just my opinions, not fact.

[spoon]

I can only speak for myself but Ronnie's the funniest motherfucker on the planet. Fucking Carlin couldn't entertain me every day like Ronnie can.

I still enjoy the fuck out of the show, but there was something exciting about the show with Dave aside from him being able to roll with topics and stuff. You never knew if you were going to hit one of those insane throw-down shows where Dave would decide to go against someone directly. Think of the Earl's grandmother bit, the day Franklyn came in to talk about the ziti, or the day Fez went up against Freddie. You could also include the Big A bit since Dave fed him the lines. It was great because it added to the wrestling-type angles that the show plays on.

This situation is very simple: Fez gets paid and doesn't contribute. He doesn't care about anyone but himself. On no scale does he deserve to keep cashing that enormous check. It's not the biggest injustice on the planet, but it's still fucking absurd.

And I have .mp3s of shows going back to '01. Frankly, the Ron and Dave era was better.

To the bolded part, no fucking way. I'm not saying it's ESD's fault either, it's really not the same bc of the relationship with the overall audience, the genuine friendships aren't there, the plethora of ulterior motives and behind the scenes manipulations and backstabbing. I'm sorry, but in the past things were just in their golden era and people just simply seemed to flow with the show, not try to fit it and or be the act. ESD is great and would have EASILY been a great addition in those days as well, but his timing didn't line up. He walked into a clearly different show. Still, I can honestly say 95% of my friends could roll with the conversations like esd and pepper. That's not what makes them entertaining. It's way beyond the simple banter.

[helterskeletor]

Yeah well pretty much that is what i was saying, that the funniest person "on the planet" would not be toiling away on a satelite radio show plain and simple. If you are the best in your field you are routinely recognized by the people in the know in the industry or the buzz of the fans and sorry to say that is not what you get with Ron Bennington.

But again to draw an analogy of comedy and best on the planet to the Ron and Fez show and Howard Stern is a leap of faith that not even Steve Martin would make

Get a logic book and read that motherfucker.

My main point is that people remember some false time where Fez was a comic genius. You're mis-remembering. Fez was never that funny. I've listened to hundreds of archived shows.

Real funniness is being able to just walk in off the street and shoot the shit for hours and make people laugh. I didn't say Ronnie was the most popular or the richest or the most successful, but he's the best there is at THAT.

And if anyone knows a bunch of East Side Daves you live in looney-town.

This discussion is going nowhere. I hope Dave and Fez get what's coming to them.