I feel bad for Ron

[SinA]

i imagine that ron is just thoroughly pissed that his best friend and business partner of so many years has, for all intent, got ill and then quit.

it's not that he just quit... i don't think he wouldn't tolerate that even though they're good friends. he had sympathy for fez because he has legitimate medical problems, but over time his sympathy got replaced with resentment

it seems like fez gives minimal effort, or less than minimum, to get himself better. he goes to a therapist and thinks "i've done all i can do".

with fez sitting back for a few years now, dave stepped up to help ron carry the show. he was the closest thing he had to a co-host, and now he's really gone leaving him alone with fez again

[disneyspy]

while you feel bad for him,i admire him even morefor handling the issues you've brought up

[jimmyolsenblues]

But what is so difficult is I remember Fez summer of 2001 and he was amazing.
Fez was funny, intelligent, and actually smooth on the radio.
its such a shame.
Ronnie is too loyal to kick fez to the curb.
I assume we will hear more from the interns.
I assume ron will intentionally grit his teeth through fez's problems.

The show at times is so uncomfortable its like a rash without dave at moments.

[JimBeam]

The show at times is so uncomfortable its like a rash without dave at moments

I have to disagree.

Dave was funny but I haven't really missed him at all.

Pepper's done a fantastic job of filling that spot.

[Dudeman]

I assume ron will intentionally grit his teeth through fez's problems.


I don't think Ron "grits his teeth through fez's problems." Sometimes he kind of piles on- when Fez brings up a topic, or just makes a statement, Ron often ignores it or makes fun of it, in turn making Fez even more self-conscious about saying anything more.

[Chigworthy]

Feel bad for me, I can't get paltalk to work.

[disneyspy]

Feel bad for me, I can't get paltalk to work.

you need some semn in your life

[Dell]

is this a call for showerbench?..

[DOHO@HOME]

I've always wonder what it's like when the mic's are not on.
Does Fez just unload all of his mental issues onto anyone that will sit and listen or does he not say a word until the mic is on.
Does Ron see Fez as a radio bit and feels if the guy is going to come into work and have so many issues each and everyday then he is going to have to deal with the backlash.
I know when Fez was talking about going to Four winds that time it sounded like Ron was willing to do whatever Fez needed him to do to support him during that time.
I don't feel bad for anyone but the customer in this case due to they can change it if they wanted to change the show.
The customer does not have many options if they love the show.

[Tito725]

I do feel bad for Ronnie B as well. If you listen to best of's last week from even 3 yrs ago, Fez was completely different. Much more energized and much more present.
I don't know how long Ronnie B can wait for Fez to come back. He's such a great performer, I hate to see him at 50% these days.

[instrument]

Imagine if you worked in a factory and eaxh day you and your team mate were expected to do a certain amount of work based on two men....only your team mate routinely sat back and watched you work....hell there are even times that boxes fall on you....and still he just sits there.

No matter what you feel about this person occasionally when the guys start beating him with soap....jokers gonna start beating him too.

[JimBeam]

Imagine if you worked in a factory and eaxh day you and your team mate were expected to do a certain amount of work based on two men....only your team mate routinely sat back and watched you work....hell there are even times that boxes fall on you....and still he just sits there.

No matter what you feel about this person occasionally when the guys start beating him with soap....jokers gonna start beating him too.

I don't think this is a fair comparison.

I'm sure Ron gets paid a lot more for what he brings to the show.

So if you worked in a factory w/ somebody and your output was that much greater than the other person you'd probably be rewarded in such a way to make it worth the effort.

[dommer]

I don't think this is a fair comparison.

I'm sure Ron gets paid a lot more for what he brings to the show.

So if you worked in a factory w/ somebody and your output was that much greater than the other person you'd probably be rewarded in such a way to make it worth the effort.


The impression that Ron gives whenever the topic comes up is that he and Fez are compensated identically. Who knows for sure.

[Chimee]

But what is so difficult is I remember Fez summer of 2001 and he was amazing.
Fez was funny, intelligent, and actually smooth on the radio.
its such a shame.
Ronnie is too loyal to kick fez to the curb.
I assume we will hear more from the interns.
I assume ron will intentionally grit his teeth through fez's problems.

The show at times is so uncomfortable its like a rash without dave at moments.

It's always amazing when they'd play old best-ofs to hear Fez pretty much controlling the show and Ron jumping in with a joke every now and then.

[oPant]

i imagine that ron is just thoroughly pissed that his best friend and business partner of so many years has, for all intent, got ill and then quit.

it's not that he just quit... i don't think he wouldn't tolerate that even though they're good friends. he had sympathy for fez because he has legitimate medical problems, but over time his sympathy got replaced with resentment

it seems like fez gives minimal effort, or less than minimum, to get himself better. he goes to a therapist and thinks "i've done all i can do".

with fez sitting back for a few years now, dave stepped up to help ron carry the show. he was the closest thing he had to a co-host, and now he's really gone leaving him alone with fez again


I don't miss Dave. Fez has stepped up quite a bit and it sounds like Ron & Fez again. :clap:

[MofongoK]

I don't think this is a fair comparison.

I'm sure Ron gets paid a lot more for what he brings to the show.

So if you worked in a factory w/ somebody and your output was that much greater than the other person you'd probably be rewarded in such a way to make it worth the effort.


My impression is that because they are considered co-hosts, they would be compensated similarly.

Of course I don't know the facts, and neither does anyone else here, but if Ron WERE receiving a larger paycheck, it would probably be for his work outside of the show - as host of Unmasked, Ron Bennington Interviews, etc.

Comparing it to something like the output of factory workers is a stretch - if you can measure something in pure numbers like "units assembled per hour", a bonus might be in order.

I'm not so sure management is used to looking at co-hosts and determining "minutes filled per day" or measuring contributions, although I would guess that any suits paying attention lately are seriously questioning the wisdom of paying Fez the big bucks.

[disneyspy]

the most rewarding job is helping others

and if an other happens to be a long time friend,i'm sure its even more rewarding

[IamFogHat]

It's always amazing when they'd play old best-ofs to hear Fez pretty much controlling the show and Ron jumping in with a joke every now and then.

The other day they were playing a best of from just two or three years ago and I literally thought they were playing a Fastest Hour in Radio segment. I couldn't believe how great Fezzie sounded just a couple of years ago. We had no idea how good we had it when he would just cry occasionally. He was still on top of his shit just a couple of years ago.

[MofongoK]

I don't miss Dave. Fez has stepped up quite a bit and it sounds like Ron & Fez again. :clap:

Were you listening today?

Besides getting upset or lashing out, I heard a lot of silence from his mic.

Fez had some good shows since Dave left, but you can count them on one hand.

Unless crying and yelling about female listeners being cunts counts as stepping up.

[oPant]

Unless crying and yelling about female listeners being cunts counts as stepping up.

That's sounds like great radio to me, and no I did not hear today's show.

[JPMNICK]

Unless crying and yelling about female listeners being cunts counts as stepping up.

did he say this about HTG?

i am like a week behind in the shows, and it seems like so much as happened.

[JimBeam]

But some of the jokers on Stern's program contribute a lot to what he does and they don't make a tenth of what he makes and nor should they.

I doubt that just because the show mentions both Ron & Fez that that means they are compensated identically.

If that was the case then Ron could/should be pissed and the status of the show would be in jeopardy.

But I think when the contracts are signed that Ron's is paid what he feels he's worth even if he has no idea what Fez makes.

[Lady Resin]

Right now I'm listening to the "Enema Jokeoff Show." It's from Dec. 2000. Fez sounds so happy and frisky! I can't believe what I heard today, that it's the same Fez.:sad:

[TripleSkeet]

At this point the only entertainment I get from the show is Ronnies quick wit and when the callers dogpile on Fez. Hes good for the show because he is a great target for Rons humor, but the guys not a co host anymore.

And anyone that thinks the show hasnt skipped a beat since Dave left is either fucking delusional or has such shit taste I couldnt care less about their opinion. Pepper has stepped up but his contributions to the conversations are usually one word answers or little sarcastic one liners. Not bad and usually funny but not even close to what Dave was bringing.

The best part of the show for me today was when the callers were calling in with suggestions to Fez and just burying him as he just ignored anyone that tried to give him real advice. The funniest thing about the guy anymore is his tear ducts.

[disneyspy]

Right now I'm listening to the "Enema Jokeoff Show." It's from Dec. 2000. Fez sounds so happy and frisky! I can't believe what I heard today, that it's the same Fez.:sad:

holy shit!!! i listened to that this morning,it was so wierd hearing them talk about the paulo scalp message cuz me and a few people from here watched that together last friday

[torker]

Diabetes is a bitch. Fez may be suffering in ways that he can't express.
Hang in there and grow a set, sugar-balls.
http://blackenheimer.com/fred_sanford.jpg

[Kevin]

Slurp slurp Ronnie Slurp Slurp.

Stop it

He gets paid a ton to talk on the Goddamn Radio.

I don't feel sorry for anyone like that.

[foodcourtdruide]

I don't miss Dave. Fez has stepped up quite a bit and it sounds like Ron & Fez again. :clap:

This has to be sarcasm.

[StatenIslandSoxFan]

I don't miss Dave. Fez has stepped up quite a bit and it sounds like Ron & Fez again. :clap:

have to disagree with you, i love davey mac. but, will agree with you in saying fez stepped up quite a bit.

[spoon]

When you see (and this has happened for a LONG TIME NOW) people associated with Ron ripping into fez (HTG all day today) and belittling him left and right, you see why Fez has fallen off.

To me, he lost his support and he's not an alpha male in the least. Once ronnie tired of him, he turned on him. Sure, he hasn't dropped him outright bc he probably can't at this point (contracts). Ron had a LOT to do with this fallout, and it bothers me in a big fucking way that HTG would go on the air and talk down to him and act above him.

I'm all for friends of the show if they are all around friends and don't shit on someone while they're down. Bottom line, she acts this way bc she feeds on what Ron puts out there and I think you all know what that is. I'm sorry, just move on if you're in soooo much fucking pain doing a show with him. Ron cries about Fez as much as Fez cries about himself. The only difference is Fez clearly has some mental issues, while the other is just having fun ripping someone down with his pack of ?

[spoon]

How many God awful threads can we have on one fucking subject too!? It's almost as if ron and fez are now getting more cringe radio than the other shows they like to make fun of. It's just not a fun group of people hanging and joking around any more and everyone just loves to blame fez. I'd be stupid to suggest Ronnie isn't a quick witted fucker, but that doesn't make him right or infallible.

[SatCam]

I cant wait until this bit pays off

[spoon]

It's not a bit!

Who has that awesome audio!?

[Gunner S]

Ron & Ron
Ron & Fez
Ron & Dave
Ron & Pepper
Ron & ?


Who's next?

[torker]

Ron & Ron
Ron & Fez
Ron & Dave
Ron & Pepper
Ron & ?


Who's next?

Ron & Gunner S

seeyah

[disneyspy]

<div style="float: left; margin-right: 10px;"><embed src="http://media.entertonement.com/embed/OpenEntPlayer.swf" id="1_d0e334fa_8948_11df_af36_0019b9e56dac" name="1_d0e334fa_8948_11df_af36_0019b9e56dac" flashvars="auto_play=false&clip_pid=hrhktfngrb&e=&id=1_d0e334fa_8948_11df_af36_0019b9e56dac&skin_pid=wfxswdnlkf" width="300" height="30" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent"></embed><div id="1_d0e334fa_8948_11df_af36_0019b9e56dac_anchor" style="font-size: 8px; color: black; text-decoration: none; display: block; text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.entertonement.com/clips/hrhktfngrb--Not-the-mamaCharacter-1-Dinosaurs-" style="font-size: 8px; color: black;" target="_blank">Not the mama sound bite</a> &nbsp;<a href="http://www.entertonement.com/collections/6126/Character-1?ht_link=1_d0e334fa_8948_11df_af36_0019b9e56dac" style="font-size: 8px; color: black;" target="_blank">Character 1 sound bites</a></div><img alt="Not the mama sound bite" border="0" height="0" src="http://www.entertonement.com/widgets/img/clip/hrhktfngrb/1/1_d0e334fa_8948_11df_af36_0019b9e56dac/blank.gif" style="visibility: hidden; width: 0px; height: 0px; margin:0; padding:0; float:right" width="0" /></div>

[disneyspy]

i hate when spoon makes sense because its that rarest of occasions when i agree with alot of what he says

[SinA]

How many God awful threads can we have on one fucking subject too!? It's almost as if ron and fez are now getting more cringe radio than the other shows they like to make fun of. It's just not a fun group of people hanging and joking around any more and everyone just loves to blame fez. I'd be stupid to suggest Ronnie isn't a quick witted fucker, but that doesn't make him right or infallible.

There are too many threads about "Ron" and "Fez" on this website!
Please post more about comic books and wrestling!!

[K.C.]

No one cares about the show anymore.

The difference is Ron shows up and tries to be somewhat professional when he's on air and do what he's paid to do. Fez doesn't.

And that's about it. And this isn't new. It's been that way for a few years.

The only reason it's more evident now is because Dave did care, because he desperately wanted to be noticed so he could make more money and so he stepped up.

When Sirius eventually cancels the show however far down the line that is, Fez will leave radio (or at least on-air radio), and never be heard from again and Ron will probably either stay and do more of the Unmasked/Artist Confidential type stuff for Sirius, or he'll leave and do a new show under a new format.

[oPant]

Ron & Ron
Ron & Fez
Ron & Dave
Ron & Pepper
Ron & ?


Who's next?

The Ron show.

[MofongoK]

There are too many threads about "Ron" and "Fez" on this website!
Please post more about comic books and wrestling!!


Or reality television, gay marriage inequality, and junk food.

[pillsaregood]

I have shit on Fez a lot on here because he's annoying to me.

But I really want to say a few words and maybe just relate in a real discussion why I have grown to hate him now.

As he opens the show today by saying he's having a bad day again and say it's just like any other day and any other week I grew infuriated.

The selfishness exercised by Fez these days is too much. He knows he's putting everyone around him in an awkward position every single day when the show begins. Ron doesn't know what to do anymore. Pepper doesn't have a clue. They at least had someone to fill in for Fez with Dave and now he's gone. As fans all we talk about anymore is the demise of the show because of Fez.

The real solution here is very obvious.

Fez should stop thinking about himself here and step aside. Whether it's forever or for a few months. I don't think any time frame should be put on it. They should hire Dave back with a pay increase and stop the madness already.

I am human. I want Fez to heal. I don't want to see or hear a guy's life falling apart little by little every day while the hate grows inside me. That's not me enjoying the show.

And people are going to say no way it's the Ron and Fez Show. To them I ask this one question. Do you honestly think Ron or Fez enjoy doing this every day?

Are we as fans this selfish that we can't understand things are majorly fucked up right now in the guys life to the point where he can't function as an employee. This one employee is bringing down the entire company.

It's sad. Ron is a comic at heart and even he's run out of lines to combat this thing.

Now the reason I get mad is that this isn't going to happen because Fez won't give up because of the monetary ramifications. He will either have to restructure his contract or be fired from the gig. It is what it is.

It's time for him to start looking around and begin to understand he should move on so Ron isn't stressed any longer. So Pepper isn't stressed any longer. And so the show can get back to being about entertaining fans with laughter and good times.

Fez isn't in a two week rut. Or a three week rut. He's way farther along the path.

The notion that one day soon he's going to wake up and all will be well again is silly.

I heard the show today and the idea of an intern getting to do an hour so Fez can sit back and relax. We are in the real world here. Are the interns getting paid for this? That's another thing that frustrates me. Forcing others to step in and fill the time for Fez while they get paid nothing (interns, guests) isn't a realistic long term solution to a long term problem.

I hope you guys understand where I am coming from. I don't want to fight with anyone on this one. I appreciate the people who stand behind Fez no matter what because you guys are great fans of the show. But I think even those people can see the point I am trying to get across here.

[spoon]

There are too many threads about "Ron" and "Fez" on this website!
Please post more about comic books and wrestling!!

Yah, bc the 50 other threads on this topic just weren't accepting any new posts right. Hell, let's make 25 more right now! Hurry. I'm not happy for Ron, "Fez sucks a big one, we hate him" and of course "ESD is Better" are all still available/ready to go. Yeahhhhh! I said something that 500 people feel the need to say with it's own title so Ron can see me in my land of innernets make believe.

I hate the wrestling threads and comic book threads too but at least those that like them don't have 20 threads covering the same fucking thing and cry like bitches. Love it or hate it, this is getting fucking old and repetitive.

[spoon]

The real solution here is very obvious.

This one employee is bringing down the entire company.


no

[midwestjeff]

no

I think he meant Fuzzybutt.

Not cool.

[instrument]

Its sad to think that earl did the right thing and moved on while fez has quietly accepted his unearned compensation for all these years.

Eventually ron will be talking to interns.

[A.J.]

How many God awful threads can we have on one fucking subject too!? It's almost as if ron and fez are now getting more cringe radio than the other shows they like to make fun of. It's just not a fun group of people hanging and joking around any more and everyone just loves to blame fez. I'd be stupid to suggest Ronnie isn't a quick witted fucker, but that doesn't make him right or infallible.

Only an idiot mod would dare merge redundant threads.

[thepaulo]

When you see (and this has happened for a LONG TIME NOW) people associated with Ron ripping into fez (HTG all day today) and belittling him left and right, you see why Fez has fallen off.

To me, he lost his support and he's not an alpha male in the least. Once ronnie tired of him, he turned on him. Sure, he hasn't dropped him outright bc he probably can't at this point (contracts). Ron had a LOT to do with this fallout, and it bothers me in a big fucking way that HTG would go on the air and talk down to him and act above him.

I'm all for friends of the show if they are all around friends and don't shit on someone while they're down. Bottom line, she acts this way bc she feeds on what Ron puts out there and I think you all know what that is. I'm sorry, just move on if you're in soooo much fucking pain doing a show with him. Ron cries about Fez as much as Fez cries about himself. The only difference is Fez clearly has some mental issues, while the other is just having fun ripping someone down with his pack of ?
hmmmmmmm

[thepaulo]

I have shit on Fez a lot on here because he's annoying to me.

But I really want to say a few words and maybe just relate in a real discussion why I have grown to hate him now.

As he opens the show today by saying he's having a bad day again and say it's just like any other day and any other week I grew infuriated.

The selfishness exercised by Fez these days is too much. He knows he's putting everyone around him in an awkward position every single day when the show begins. Ron doesn't know what to do anymore. Pepper doesn't have a clue. They at least had someone to fill in for Fez with Dave and now he's gone. As fans all we talk about anymore is the demise of the show because of Fez.

The real solution here is very obvious.

Fez should stop thinking about himself here and step aside. Whether it's forever or for a few months. I don't think any time frame should be put on it. They should hire Dave back with a pay increase and stop the madness already.

I am human. I want Fez to heal. I don't want to see or hear a guy's life falling apart little by little every day while the hate grows inside me. That's not me enjoying the show.

And people are going to say no way it's the Ron and Fez Show. To them I ask this one question. Do you honestly think Ron or Fez enjoy doing this every day?

Are we as fans this selfish that we can't understand things are majorly fucked up right now in the guys life to the point where he can't function as an employee. This one employee is bringing down the entire company.

It's sad. Ron is a comic at heart and even he's run out of lines to combat this thing.

Now the reason I get mad is that this isn't going to happen because Fez won't give up because of the monetary ramifications. He will either have to restructure his contract or be fired from the gig. It is what it is.

It's time for him to start looking around and begin to understand he should move on so Ron isn't stressed any longer. So Pepper isn't stressed any longer. And so the show can get back to being about entertaining fans with laughter and good times.

Fez isn't in a two week rut. Or a three week rut. He's way farther along the path.

The notion that one day soon he's going to wake up and all will be well again is silly.

I heard the show today and the idea of an intern getting to do an hour so Fez can sit back and relax. We are in the real world here. Are the interns getting paid for this? That's another thing that frustrates me. Forcing others to step in and fill the time for Fez while they get paid nothing (interns, guests) isn't a realistic long term solution to a long term problem.

I hope you guys understand where I am coming from. I don't want to fight with anyone on this one. I appreciate the people who stand behind Fez no matter what because you guys are great fans of the show. But I think even those people can see the point I am trying to get across here.

there are things that can be done. I think it would be easy.

[CountryBob]

Fez has lost his swagger. I normally dont feel sorry for him but yesterday, when Ron pointed out Fez's screw ups or said your having a bad day - Fez immediately said "I'm stupid" or something to the like.

A man will most always tell people to fuck off and never self-deprecate himself. Fez just completely hates on himself all the time now. No confidence.

Maybe the breakthrough he needs is to tell Ron to fuck himself - ??

[thepaulo]

Fez has lost his swagger. I normally dont feel sorry for him but yesterday, when Ron pointed out Fez's screw ups or said your having a bad day - Fez immediately said "I'm stupid" or something to the like.

A man will most always tell people to fuck off and never self-deprecate himself. Fez just completely hates on himself all the time now. No confidence.

Maybe the breakthrough he needs is to tell Ron to fuck himself - ??
hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[knockknock]

The #1 criterion for hosting talk radio is the ability to talk a lot (4 hours). The #2 criterion is the ability to be interesting, topical, and conversational while handling task #1. Fez fails at both tasks. He's radio kryptonite these days. Time to phase out Fez.

[MofongoK]

The #1 criterion for hosting talk radio is the ability to talk a lot (4 hours). The #2 criterion is the ability to be interesting, topical, and conversational while handling task #1. Fez fails at both tasks. He's radio kryptonite these days. Time to phase out Fez.


But but but...don't you feel for the guy?

After all, he's already made it clear he can't function today because he took an elevator and it stopped to let someone on.
:wallbash:

[JimBeam]

I heard some more classic Fez at the end of the Friday 6/18 replay.

Both Ron and Fez were ganging up on Lene because she didn't get Fez a birthday present and only made him some drawings.

Funny stuff.

As far as how Ron and Fez feel about each other I think maybe we're all over thinking the thing.

It's a radio show and if you don't like what you're hearing change the channel.

We can all disagree on whether or not the show has changed from " how we remember it " but so does anything that's lasted a long time.

I love Curb Your Enthusiasm but think this past season sucked balls even w/ Seinfeld.

Sadly nothing stays the same.

[TripleSkeet]

I hate the wrestling threads and comic book threads too but at least those that like them don't have 20 threads covering the same fucking thing and cry like bitches. Love it or hate it, this is getting fucking old and repetitive.

You must go in the Raw thread. But in our defense, its pretty justified.

[TripleSkeet]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

If you think thats whats gonna fix everything you are insane. At best he will get a stare from Ron with some silence as he wilts under the pressure of having to talk on his own radio show.

At worst Ron would verbally tear him to shreds until there was nothing left. Resulting in him maybe never coming back. Hmmmm...maybe that IS the answer!

[Goatweed]

At this point the only entertainment I get from the show is Ronnies quick wit and when the callers dogpile on Fez. Hes good for the show because he is a great target for Rons humor, but the guys not a co host anymore.

And anyone that thinks the show hasnt skipped a beat since Dave left is either fucking delusional or has such shit taste I couldnt care less about their opinion. Pepper has stepped up but his contributions to the conversations are usually one word answers or little sarcastic one liners. Not bad and usually funny but not even close to what Dave was bringing.

The best part of the show for me today was when the callers were calling in with suggestions to Fez and just burying him as he just ignored anyone that tried to give him real advice. The funniest thing about the guy anymore is his tear ducts.^^^ I agree 110% with this truth bomb. Miss davey :sad:

[helterskeletor]

while you feel bad for him,i admire him even morefor handling the issues you've brought up

he's "handling his issues" slightly better than Michael Jackson handled his insomnia.


I can't believe Fezzie won't throw Dave some cash, what with his sick kids and his horrible situation, and the fact that Dave covered his ass for YEARS.

[TripleSkeet]

Listening to the show on my drive home today was just.....awkward. Are they at a point since Dave left where they will just take fans in so Ron can have someone to talk to? I love Deb, but it seems like shes there now so Fez doesnt have to try and work.

At one point I think he spoke one line in 45 minutes. And response was "(sarcastically) hahahaha yea." and went right back to talking to Deb.

Cant Fez just take medical leave and still collect his contract?

By the way, my prediction was correct. They never replaced Dave, just piled more work onto Pepper without a pay raise. Typical corporate money saving move. What a fucking joke.

[JimBeam]

By the way, my prediction was correct. They never replaced Dave, just piled more work onto Pepper without a pay raise. Typical corporate money saving move. What a fucking joke.

Ron addressed on the show why this happened.

Dave and Pepper are 2 of 90+ producers that work for Sirius/XM so every one of their bosses can go in and say what a great job they are doing and still the company has to make a decision on who does/does not get raises.

As far as I know the company is not Google or Microsoft and doesn't have the money to just give everybody raises.

it's unfortunate but it's the real world.

I work for a company that makes $4 billion a year and yet we still get raises that when broken out over 26 paychecks look insignificant.

[conman823]

Putting my opinions of his on air persona aside. I can't blame Dave for leaving due to money issues. I listened to his SD goodbye and he seemed pretty much at his wits end financially.

Its happening all over the country. More work, less pay. Guy with a family can't expect to make 35G a year and still survive in this NYC area. Its just sad the guy had to give up his dream.

Anyway I don't feel bad for Ron. He makes good money, and get free cigars. Who can ask for more?

[danner1515]

I'm just now listening to last week's Lady Trucker debacle, and I'm kinda dumbfounded by the listeners who think Angry Fez is funny. To me, he just sounds desperate and witless with his shots at the callers. Sure, it's better than Crying Fez, but that isn't saying a whole lot.

[Gerald]

I feel bad for Ron from a corporate standpoint, in that the post-merger company keeps depriving him of the resources to field a full staff. How many balls are being juggled among the three guys on the R&F payroll since Dave left? I'd be really curious to know how the show responsibilities are being currently delegated behind the scenes. Chris Stanley must be obscenely underpaid for all the extra stuff that's being heaped onto his plate ("Pay Pepper" grassroots movement upcoming?).

At one point, R&F had the support of Earl as EP, and the dynamic duo of Pitzy and Dave as co-producers, and now it's just the Three Amigos. Is the show just taking its time in finding a producer replacement for Dave, or is the company trying to cut yet another cost corner by forcing them to make it work with an even more undermanned staff? Get one of O&A's half dozen producers to come onboard.

[JimBeam]

But in the companies defense aren't the jobs being done by Dave and now by Pepper largely entry level from a standpoint of them getting experience ?

I hate to keep going back to it but from a success model, at least w/ advertisers, Stern's show would be considered #1 and I'm sure it took that moron Gary a long time to make the kinda money he was making before they even jumped to satellite.

[Penelope]

Ron had a very good point today about Fez being like Lindsay Lohan. I feel bad because I've been enjoying listening to the "car crash" that is Fez. I've stopped feeling bad for him or uncomfortable, and I just laugh at Fez's crying.

[Slim Anus]

But in the companies defense aren't the jobs being done by Dave and now by Pepper largely entry level from a standpoint of them getting experience ?

I hate to keep going back to it but from a success model, at least w/ advertisers, Stern's show would be considered #1 and I'm sure it took that moron Gary a long time to make the kinda money he was making before they even jumped to satellite.

Good point about Gary. Dave should have thought it out before he jumped overboard.

[TripleSkeet]

But in the companies defense aren't the jobs being done by Dave and now by Pepper largely entry level from a standpoint of them getting experience ?

I hate to keep going back to it but from a success model, at least w/ advertisers, Stern's show would be considered #1 and I'm sure it took that moron Gary a long time to make the kinda money he was making before they even jumped to satellite.

There is no defense for the company. 90 producers - so saying they are great cant get them a raise? Ok, how about this, THEY WERE PAYING EARL AS A PRODUCER. THEY WERE PAYING DAVE AS A PRODUCER. Both of those guys left, so they have 2 choices, hire 2 more guys at the same pay rate they were paying them, or give the guys that are doing the extra work MORE MONEY.

What the fuck kind of defense is that? They obviously have the money in the budget. They didnt fire these guys in a cost cutting move, the guys left. As a company you are supposed to replace employees when they leave. Otherwise the product suffers and you are unfairly taking advantage of the rest of your employees.

Im not saying going to the boss and saying "He needs a raise" is going to get one, or even that it should. But when you hire 3 fucking producers for a radio show, you should keep 3 producers on that show. You dont just take a guys work when he leaves and dump it on the guy that stays. Thats fucking ridiculous.

[disgruntledsherpa]

I have to disagree.

Dave was funny but I haven't really missed him at all.

Pepper's done a fantastic job of filling that spot.

Agreed 100%...and Pepper's done it without SCREAMING or bringing up Tarantino and how "he's the best".

[disgruntledsherpa]

There is no defense for the company. 90 producers - so saying they are great cant get them a raise? Ok, how about this, THEY WERE PAYING EARL AS A PRODUCER. THEY WERE PAYING DAVE AS A PRODUCER. Both of those guys left, so they have 2 choices, hire 2 more guys at the same pay rate they were paying them, or give the guys that are doing the extra work MORE MONEY.

What the fuck kind of defense is that? They obviously have the money in the budget. They didnt fire these guys in a cost cutting move, the guys left. As a company you are supposed to replace employees when they leave. Otherwise the product suffers and you are unfairly taking advantage of the rest of your employees.

Im not saying going to the boss and saying "He needs a raise" is going to get one, or even that it should. But when you hire 3 fucking producers for a radio show, you should keep 3 producers on that show. You dont just take a guys work when he leaves and dump it on the guy that stays. Thats fucking ridiculous.



Did you hear Ron's rant today? Have you seen how poorly Sirius is doing monetarily? Have you noticed the over 10% unemployment in this country?

Any company that can is and will cut costs. Dave was a friggin' moron to give them an excuse to cut more.

[BlackFan]

Did you hear Ron's rant today? Have you seen how poorly Sirius is doing monetarily? Have you noticed the over 10% unemployment in this country?

Any company that can is and will cut costs. Dave was a friggin' moron to give them an excuse to cut more.

Where Dave was he couldn't afford to keep coming in. He said it himself his parents set aside stock for him for his future,and he had been selling away that stock just to come into work. He cut his cable, he doesn't take his wife out. Dave was living for the show at that point,and there were no more concessions that he could've made. He stayed as long as he could.

And as far as auntie Fezzy goes, I can't believe him. I'm just so tired of his fuckin bitch fest for nothing. The man has the money to live a life that most of us would dream of, and he comes to work and cries about it everyday. Every single fucking day. Everyday we have to hear "Idk I just locked up." or " I was shaken." or " I'm off to a bad start today." Are you mother fucker? When you're counting nickels and dimes to get on the train to work because you're broke at the end of every week, then cry about having a bad start.

Then he says stuff like "I'm doing my best, I work on my health, I know about diabetes."
Well if you're doing your best how come you eat an entire box of cereal in one sitting. How come he does shit like eat an entire pizza? "I take my medicine" he says, and time and time again he's told just taking the medicine won't work you have to work on your diet. But does he? no. Fez can cry all he wants to about not wanting to be the way he is, he's a horrible person I wish he'd just admit it and embrace it.

And its not like I hate Fez I love what he's done and what he has the ability to do, but just like i'd tell anyone of my best friends, "dude, man up."

[CountryBob]

Did you hear Ron's rant today? Have you seen how poorly Sirius is doing monetarily? Have you noticed the over 10% unemployment in this country?

Any company that can is and will cut costs. Dave was a friggin' moron to give them an excuse to cut more.

True - I have laid off around 50 this year and not hired replacements. Also have had about 15 leave voluntarily for other jobs - and we havent replaced them. The board thinks right now when someones leaves we can assume their role and save $$. Shitty way of keeping quality top notch - it will suffer.

[knockknock]

No one in no other job would get away with what Fez does daily, whether you make minimum wage or $400K. Fez gives zero effort other than to show up.

[JimBeam]

There is no defense for the company. 90 producers - so saying they are great cant get them a raise? Ok, how about this, THEY WERE PAYING EARL AS A PRODUCER. THEY WERE PAYING DAVE AS A PRODUCER. Both of those guys left, so they have 2 choices, hire 2 more guys at the same pay rate they were paying them, or give the guys that are doing the extra work MORE MONEY.

What the fuck kind of defense is that? They obviously have the money in the budget. They didnt fire these guys in a cost cutting move, the guys left. As a company you are supposed to replace employees when they leave. Otherwise the product suffers and you are unfairly taking advantage of the rest of your employees.

Im not saying going to the boss and saying "He needs a raise" is going to get one, or even that it should. But when you hire 3 fucking producers for a radio show, you should keep 3 producers on that show. You dont just take a guys work when he leaves and dump it on the guy that stays. Thats fucking ridiculous.

But what about the point that the company considers the producers job to be somewhat entry level ?

From their persepctive they can fill it w/ any number of willing candidates. Sure in order for the show to work that person has to be a good on air talent especially w/ the disappearnces of Fez so they have to make smart choices but they still have, in their belief, options.

They are a corporation and raises and things of that nature are looked at across the board.

So if they have 90 producers they may even have a policy saying that when giving yearly evaluations that 3/4 of those are either performing at the expected level or below it and therefore don't warrant a raise. That leaves you w/ another 1/4 that are performing above and beyond to some degree and its all about what the company considers valuable outside of work performance that sets those people, getting the raises, apart.

My company now gives almost as much weight to extracurricular activities ( joining the women's/balck/asian group, helping w/ corporate backed causes, etc ... ) as they do actaul work performance. So I can do my job better than the guy next to me, by a lot, but if I don't have down that I went to the Habitat For Humanity day function that hurts my cause.

Also when our managers go to discuss our teams for raises at year end other managers, who have no idea on what you bring to the table day to day, have a say on what you can/can't get as a raise.

It's insane but that's how corporations work unfortunately.

No one in no other job would get away with what Fez does daily, whether you make minimum wage or $400K. Fez gives zero effort other than to show up.

But the show still contains his name and until that changes he's going to get a pass.

You have no idea what he does off air that's considered part of his job so you can't say he's completely mailing it in.

For all we know his contract is could be largely written about off air work.

[TripleSkeet]

But what about the point that the company considers the producers job to be somewhat entry level ?

From their persepctive they can fill it w/ any number of willing candidates.

If thats their perspective, fine, just fucking fill it! Hire a fucking entry level producer!

If Pepper quits tomorrow does that mean the show is supposed to go without a producer? I dont get it. If you have a restaurant, and you need 3 waiters, 1 bartender, 2 busboys, and 5 kitchen guys to run it...when 1 kitchen guy quits, youre supposed to look for another person to fill the position. Yes employees are asked to pick up the slack until help arrives but thats not supposed to be permanent. You dont just lose employee after employee and expect your restaurant to continue doing well. All youre doing is sacrificing service, quality and morale to try and save a few bucks. Corporate thinking at its best. And we, the people that pay to hear the show, suffer.

Right now The Ron and Fez Show has 3 guys doing the work of 5. (and in all honestly 2 guys because Fez is worthless).

[Serpico1103]

If thats their perspective, fine, just fucking fill it! Hire a fucking entry level producer!

If Pepper quits tomorrow does that mean the show is supposed to go without a producer? I dont get it. If you have a restaurant, and you need 3 waiters, 1 bartender, 2 busboys, and 5 kitchen guys to run it...when 1 kitchen guy quits, youre supposed to look for another person to fill the position. Yes employees are asked to pick up the slack until help arrives but thats not supposed to be permanent. You dont just lose employee after employee and expect your restaurant to continue doing well. All youre doing is sacrificing service, quality and morale to try and save a few bucks. Corporate thinking at its best. And we, the people that pay to hear the show, suffer.

Right now The Ron and Fez Show has 3 guys doing the work of 5. (and in all honestly 2 guys because Fez is worthless).

I just wonder if Ron & Fez can argue that Sirius is violating their contract. Ron & Fez is their brand, if the show sucks, then when contract negotiations come up Sirius is at an advantage, what other platform would want them.
Sirius doesn't have a obligation to reasonably help R&F put on a show. If Sirius gave them 3 producers at one point, that would be the reasonable effort. Now that there is 1 producer, Sirius is not meeting that standard.
Granted, the failings of the current show aren't all due to less producers.

[TripleSkeet]

I just wonder if Ron & Fez can argue that Sirius is violating their contract. Ron & Fez is their brand, if the show sucks, then when contract negotiations come up Sirius is at an advantage, what other platform would want them.
Sirius doesn't have a obligation to reasonably help R&F put on a show. If Sirius gave them 3 producers at one point, that would be the reasonable effort. Now that there is 1 producer, Sirius is not meeting that standard.
Granted, the failings of the current show aren't all due to less producers.

I was thinking the same thing. I wouldve thought the amount of producers put on a show wouldve been in the contract they signed with XM, and that would still be binding to Sirius. Even if they didnt,how can you run a show and just not put the mployees in place that are needed? I dont know how they get away with it.

[JimBeam]

If Pepper quits tomorrow does that mean the show is supposed to go without a producer?

My guess is that they'd grab either an intern from the show or grab a producer from another show and hope to get them up to speed in time so that it doesn't completely derail the show.

I'm sure there are people behind the scenes that we don't know/hear of that know how things go and can do certain jobs when/if they were called upon to do so.

If this scenario did happen they might even reach out to an Ear or Dave and ask them to come back but it wouldn't be a thing like " OK we were wrong. Come back and we'll give you everything you asked for. "

It'd be more in line w/ , " Hey the show has an opening and we'd like you to come back. " The offer would probably be a little higher than what they were getting previously but wouldn't be holding them over the fire or else they'd go w/ my 1st thought above.

[MikeB]

Why feel bad for ron? he got his wish of having his girlfriend as third/second mic which gives her the added attention that makes her wet.

[YourAmishDaddy]

May as well add to the mental masturbation..

I'm to the point where I don't feel bad for Ron. When Diaz was in his stupor he called him out on it. They had their war and they parted ways.

I know ultimately if he had to answer any of these questions Ron would do what Ron always does. Get pissed off and go on a rant about how he and everyone else went to bat for Dave. Fine. But seriously does anyone here believe it's entertaining to see someone unravel like this on a daily basis?

Name one other show on the hundred plus channel lineup on either platform that's as dysfunctional as these two shows on 202.

To be honest I'd just take both staffs of R&F and O&A and roll them into one. Get rid of Fez and some of the 90 producers O&A have and merge both shows. Find some other show and add it to the channel and balance out the replays. Cause I can assure you the brass at Sirius is nothing like XM was enabling this shit. They'll axe both shows at this rate. And limping as 202 is right now they'd be justified.

[fezident]

I feel like this whole thing can be filed under "change".
The show is always changing. Evolving. Moving on.

The show used to be filled with drops & soundbytes. They stopped that years ago.
The show used to have Big Ass Cards, unsigned band contests, AFRO shows, pre-produced bits, and other things of that nature. That stopped a long time ago too.

The show has settled into a 2 & 1/2 man talk show. (which I love, BTW)
To me, it's easy to envision that Ron will eventually do a one man, long form, conversational, interview-based show that also focuses on current events. (Adam Carolla did this for the first year of his podcast, and had the highest ranked show on iTunes. Sometimes as much as 500,000 downloads in one day).

Fez's behavior and participation is all part of this evolution. As is the loss of Earl, Dave, and the new on-air responsibilities of Pep and Deb.

The definition of "The Ron And Fez Show" is elastic. It's changed so much over the years. Ron is, really, the only thing that's remained constant.

I like the show. I liked it a long time ago and I like it now.
The show's changed, and so have I. No complaints here.

[YourAmishDaddy]

You're right. And I can't go out to 125th and give some random crackhead 30 bucks a month to convulse and have fits and mental breakdowns. That's entertainment.


What's the difference between Pink Floyd and Ron and Fez? Pink Floyd got rid of Syd Barrett.

[SinA]

You're right. And I can't go out to 125th and give some random crackhead 30 bucks a month to convulse and have fits and mental breakdowns. That's entertainment.


What's the difference between Pink Floyd and Ron and Fez? Pink Floyd got rid of Syd Barrett.

Floyd continued to pay Syd an equal share of their profits, as though he never left.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Floyd continued to pay Syd an equal share of their profits, as though he never left.

True. That would be fine in this case as well.

[Contra]

True. That would be fine in this case as well.


Pay to NOT play? Interesting

[TripleSkeet]

In my perfect world the shows contract expires, Ron tells Fez its over, and pitches The Ron & East Side Show to Sirius. Which they sign. I know others wouldnt like it but honestly, fuck them, I only care about my entertainment.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Well, it's a case of personal feelings vs how we view being entertained by a show.

All of us love Fez. Given. But I can't sit and listen to days on end of self torture and mental anguish. It's unfair to Fez, cause he's not getting better, he's getting worse. And it's not fair to those out there paying to be entertained. It's beyond ridiculous.

[UnknownPD]

Call me crazy, but half a Fez is better than no Fez at all.

[pillsaregood]

Agreed 100%...and Pepper's done it without SCREAMING or bringing up Tarantino and how "he's the best".

Give us one example where Pepper had a full conversation with Ron about a topic where you could pull the audio and use it as a reel for a co-hosting job.

We are all waiting.

[pillsaregood]

I feel like this whole thing can be filed under "change".
The show is always changing. Evolving. Moving on.

The show used to be filled with drops & soundbytes. They stopped that years ago.
The show used to have Big Ass Cards, unsigned band contests, AFRO shows, pre-produced bits, and other things of that nature. That stopped a long time ago too.

The show has settled into a 2 & 1/2 man talk show. (which I love, BTW)
To me, it's easy to envision that Ron will eventually do a one man, long form, conversational, interview-based show that also focuses on current events. (Adam Carolla did this for the first year of his podcast, and had the highest ranked show on iTunes. Sometimes as much as 500,000 downloads in one day).

Fez's behavior and participation is all part of this evolution. As is the loss of Earl, Dave, and the new on-air responsibilities of Pep and Deb.

The definition of "The Ron And Fez Show" is elastic. It's changed so much over the years. Ron is, really, the only thing that's remained constant.

I like the show. I liked it a long time ago and I like it now.
The show's changed, and so have I. No complaints here.

So you think Sirus hears the shows over the last month and goes...

'yeah, we are definitely going to renew the contract for this show'.

LMAO. Shut up.

The Virus is a comedy channel. And if Fez is still doing this BS when the contract is expiring then the R and F Show is going to be replaced by the new shows that Jimmy is doing on the other channels. Those shows fall under the 'comedy' umbrella.

The R and F Show of today is a melodramatic/mental health show with a bit of humor dropped in to keep it light.

[Meataball23]

In my perfect world the shows contract expires, Ron tells Fez its over, and pitches The Ron & East Side Show to Sirius. Which they sign. I know others wouldnt like it but honestly, fuck them, I only care about my entertainment.

I would love to see that happen. Ive been saying it on this board for a while - Fez needs a long leave of absence from the show. Hes not healthy and its not entertaining to anyone to hear a grown man continually have a breakdown on air.

[SinA]

Ron & Ron
Ron & Fez
Ron & Dave
Ron & Pepper
Ron & ?


Who's next?

On to the next one

Hold up, freeze

Somebody bring back the money please

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yz07GgFzfu4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yz07GgFzfu4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

[DirtyJersey]

I've loved the show for years and I will always continue to listen but its really hard these days with Fez in the condition he's in. Its like a train wreck that doesnt end, just perpetually crashing day after day without any sign of stopping. Isn't a crashing train supposed to eventually stop tumbling and come to a rest?

[Lady Resin]

RON 0 HTG :glurps:

[paulisded]

Today Fez showcased exactly what bothers me about him in recent months. He brought up a topic worthy of discussion, but was deeply offended that anybody would not think like him. He was bawling about the asshole callers that made the faggot and heart attack jokes, but even before those calls he was getting all pissed with anybody who didn't agree with him. This happens all to often these days. Just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean you're against Fez, or don't like him or whatever other paranoid thoughts he has.

[JerseyJew]

Fez has lost his swagger. I normally dont feel sorry for him but yesterday, when Ron pointed out Fez's screw ups or said your having a bad day - Fez immediately said "I'm stupid" or something to the like.

A man will most always tell people to fuck off and never self-deprecate himself. Fez just completely hates on himself all the time now. No confidence.

Maybe the breakthrough he needs is to tell Ron to fuck himself - ??

You're probably right, he'd never do it on air though. Ron (jokingly?) says now during the show that's this is the "Let's fix Fez" part of the show, which he knows will lead to all the people calling in with their suggestions for Fez that will always be ignored and then the people who shit on Fez and get him angry and upset while Ron sits back and lets it all unfold - day in and day out. He can't possibly think it's entertaining, many times it's just seems cruel.

[TripleSkeet]

The best part of the show for me today was when Ron kept asking Fez to explain his feelings and then just did fart noises over them.

I love Debbie but I really hope shes not gonna become the new stand in co host every day.

[Sloppy2nds]

Awww Fezzie :glurps:

I enjoyed the Blackwell parody. I'd love to hear Fez get at Ron just once. :lol:

[ScottFromGA]

Why feel bad for ron? he got his wish of having his girlfriend as third/second mic which gives her the added attention that makes her wet.

this comment makes me laugh cause its true!

:laugh:

[yojimbo7248]

The best part of the show for me today was when Ron kept asking Fez to explain his feelings and then just did fart noises over them.

I love Debbie but I really hope shes not gonna become the new stand in co host every day.

Careful what you ask for. They might change things up and bring in Franklyn.

[yojimbo7248]

I'm wondering if this is the plan now, bringing in friends of the show to take up the slack. Are we going to be seeing a rotation of HTG, Franklyn, Earl, MLC, and lots of Blowhard calls? Sirius must be loving that the show can get so much free labor.

[danner1515]

I'm wondering if this is the plan now, bringing in friends of the show to take up the slack. Are we going to be seeing a rotation of HTG, Franklyn, Earl, MLC, and lots of Blowhard calls? Sirius must be loving that the show can get so much free labor.

Honestly, at this point, I'd prefer that over what I've been hearing. I've never been the world's biggest HTG fan, but at least she can carry on a conversation.

Oh, wait. I forgot... it's the Ron & FEZ Show! What an asshole I am.

[sink]

I've never been the world's biggest HTG fan, but at least she can carry on a conversation..

It will get expensive paying that $450/hour

[joeybags]

It will get expensive paying that $450/hour

what does she get $450 an hour for?

[Space Edge]

what does she get $450 an hour for?

Running 202 Friends ?
Laughing Obnoxiously in the background?

[Goatweed]

with those rates, you'd think the PAC domain would've been easily renewed.

[joeybags]

with those rates, you'd think the PAC domain would've been easily renewed.

whats PAC?

[Goatweed]

it's kinda like NO MA'AM, but faker.

[joeybags]

but no MA'AM ruled and i dont remember peg ever servicing al

[styckx]

She only serviced Al when she needed money

[joeybags]

She only serviced Al when she needed money

what about when she wanted to get on his radio show

[jimmyolsenblues]

Ronnie babies fez..he allows him to be like this.
Any other radio program would fire fez.

[OleBullNuts]

Be Not Go-daddying

[JimBeam]

In my perfect world the shows contract expires, Ron tells Fez its over, and pitches The Ron & East Side Show to Sirius. Which they sign. I know others wouldnt like it but honestly, fuck them, I only care about my entertainment.

I think, sadly, in that case Sirius would say it's been nice knowing you Ron, good luck on terrestrial radio in Dubuque IA.

The best part of the show for me today was when Ron kept asking Fez to explain his feelings and then just did fart noises over them.

Love when he does that fart noises bit.

[RONSLEFTNUT]

hahaha Ronnie said to close the show "tune in tomorrow when fez tries to break his own thumb" I m sorry but I thought that was hilarious!!! Ronni's way of making fun of the situation

[The Ogre]

Man, I picked a bad week to give the show another try since Dave left. Who the fuck would listen to this daily? HTG and her dumbshit ruminations on life, Fez Banner losing his shit and being cunty with even the most genuinely complimentary callers and what looks like Ron's desire to make the show a combination of conversations he has at dinner with middle aged women and making an old queen cry.

Holy fuck. I knew it was a lot, but I never realized just how much ESD added to the show. Bring back Dave.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I'm wondering if this is the plan now, bringing in friends of the show to take up the slack. Are we going to be seeing a rotation of HTG, Franklyn, Earl, MLC, and lots of Blowhard calls? Sirius must be loving that the show can get so much free labor.

Blowhard and Earl are good to have in studio. When the Blowhard can slow it down and have a conversation, I enjoy his nostalgia. Sometimes, though, I think he gets too caught up in his own persona and tries to drop too many different names and his calls get too specific so that only the smallest percentage of the listening audience can relate.

[yojimbo7248]

Blowhard and Earl are good to have in studio. When the Blowhard can slow it down and have a conversation, I enjoy his nostalgia. Sometimes, though, I think he gets too caught up in his own persona and tries to drop too many different names and his calls get too specific so that only the smallest percentage of the listening audience can relate.

I'm with you. I like Blowhard and Earl in the studio when they are on topics they know well. Earl is good with music and I also like Blowhard's nostalgia.

I hope Vanguard Souls or whatever that band was called, was a one off. I keep thinking I will completely stop listening but then I come back. I mostly come back to see how bad Fez will get. I already feel kind of wrong about listening just to see if Fez will completely lose it and get committed or blow his stents. If they start having bands come in to eat time, that will be the thing that makes me finally stop listening. I stopped when Blues Hammer started playing today.

[Dudeman]

Man, I picked a bad week to give the show another try since Dave left. Who the fuck would listen to this daily? HTG and her dumbshit ruminations on life, Fez Banner losing his shit and being cunty with even the most genuinely complimentary callers and what looks like Ron's desire to make the show a combination of conversations he has at dinner with middle aged women and making an old queen cry.

Holy fuck. I knew it was a lot, but I never realized just how much ESD added to the show. Bring back Dave.

I actually disagree. This has been some of the more old school R&F... it is totally pro-wrestling stuff that Ron and Fez used to love to do with Al Douche. People used to hate Al the way they are calling in to bust balls on Fez. Soon Fez is going to break a pinball machine. These calls about hating Fez are no different than the people who used to call in hating Al with a passion.

[danner1515]

Man, I picked a bad week to give the show another try since Dave left. Who the fuck would listen to this daily? HTG and her dumbshit ruminations on life, Fez Banner losing his shit and being cunty with even the most genuinely complimentary callers and what looks like Ron's desire to make the show a combination of conversations he has at dinner with middle aged women and making an old queen cry.

Holy fuck. I knew it was a lot, but I never realized just how much ESD added to the show. Bring back Dave.

Yeah, I realize this is probably blasphemy around these parts, but I'm really ready for O&A's vacation to be over.

[Drunky McBetidont]

feel bad for ron? really? that is kind of like feeling bad for the ring toss attendant because he gave away two huge prizes today.

you guys really don't get it do you?

[danner1515]

I actually disagree. This has been some of the more old school R&F... it is totally pro-wrestling stuff that Ron and Fez used to love to do with Al Douche. People used to hate Al the way they are calling in to bust balls on Fez. Soon Fez is going to break a pinball machine. These calls about hating Fez are no different than the people who used to call in hating Al with a passion.

If this is a bit, I hope there's one FUCK of a payoff.

[Meataball23]

feel bad for ron? really? that is kind of like feeling bad for the ring toss attendant because he gave away two huge prizes today.

you guys really don't get it do you?

If this is true (and I think it might be) Fez is a fucking magician. Seriously this is ' the prestige' territory.

Then again, if I had to lay down money Id go w/ al dukes - what do I have to say, this is not a bit.

[furie]

while you feel bad for him,i admire him even morefor handling the issues you've brought up

:clap:

[waterbedouin]

But the show still contains his name and until that changes he's going to get a pass.

It's his name, but Ron's solved that problem before with the Ron & Ron show. Not that it's plausible (or a good idea), but anyone could be christened 'Fez' and sit opposite of Ron.

Hell, is Wilmer Valderrama doing anything these days?

[airtight]

I've been a listener for all of the XM years....this week prompted me to sign up to this board to voice my opinion. I just dont understand many of the listeners behavior on the show or on this board. Why pile on Fez? Does it make you feel better about yourself? Is this all you have?

Calling a disturbed man gay or a fag....really? Is that a tough guy move? Everyone knows Fez is gay, why bash? Do you fag bash out on the streets? Of course not, you'd get beat up by some fags in front of your friends. And then to spend three pages of thread talking about how bad the show is, but you keep paying a your subscription fees...how bad is the show really? Or how dumb are you for spending your money on something you dont like? If your favorite restuarant changed their menu drastically, not to your desire, then you move on to another resturant...you wouldn't keep going in just to complain and talk about the good ole' days, would you?

In closing, leave Fez alone, fight a fair fight you cowards...turn off your radio or cancel your subscription, it's that simple.

Go ahead and fire away...tell me how I dont understand and I'm not a real fan, that I dont get the joke. Bunch of clowns you are....

[PapaBear]

Just try not to think that Fez bashing is a board policy. People who bash are very vocal, so it can make people think they are the majority. Welcome to the board.

[Devo37]

I've been a listener for all of the XM years....this week prompted me to sign up to this board to voice my opinion. I just dont understand many of the listeners behavior on the show or on this board. Why pile on Fez? Does it make you feel better about yourself? Is this all you have?

Calling a disturbed man gay or a fag....really? Is that a tough guy move? Everyone knows Fez is gay, why bash? Do you fag bash out on the streets? Of course not, you'd get beat up by some fags in front of your friends. And then to spend three pages of thread talking about how bad the show is, but you keep paying a your subscription fees...how bad is the show really? Or how dumb are you for spending your money on something you dont like? If your favorite restuarant changed their menu drastically, not to your desire, then you move on to another resturant...you wouldn't keep going in just to complain and talk about the good ole' days, would you?

In closing, leave Fez alone, fight a fair fight you cowards...turn off your radio or cancel your subscription, it's that simple.

Go ahead and fire away...tell me how I dont understand and I'm not a real fan, that I dont get the joke. Bunch of clowns you are....


nice first post, and i agree with what you say.

a-hole hayseeds.

[disneyspy]

I've been a listener for all of the XM years....this week prompted me to sign up to this board to voice my opinion. I just dont understand many of the listeners behavior on the show or on this board. Why pile on Fez? Does it make you feel better about yourself? Is this all you have?

Calling a disturbed man gay or a fag....really? Is that a tough guy move? Everyone knows Fez is gay, why bash? Do you fag bash out on the streets? Of course not, you'd get beat up by some fags in front of your friends. And then to spend three pages of thread talking about how bad the show is, but you keep paying a your subscription fees...how bad is the show really? Or how dumb are you for spending your money on something you dont like? If your favorite restuarant changed their menu drastically, not to your desire, then you move on to another resturant...you wouldn't keep going in just to complain and talk about the good ole' days, would you?

In closing, leave Fez alone, fight a fair fight you cowards...turn off your radio or cancel your subscription, it's that simple.

Go ahead and fire away...tell me how I dont understand and I'm not a real fan, that I dont get the joke. Bunch of clowns you are....

i nominate this as the best first post,ever

[spoon]

good post indeed

this dilemma basically is just an excuse for some gay bashing assholes to go after Fez and act above him. you basically see some of this type action in the hate thrown on Obama bc he's black.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I've been a listener for all of the XM years....this week prompted me to sign up to this board to voice my opinion. I just dont understand many of the listeners behavior on the show or on this board. Why pile on Fez? Does it make you feel better about yourself? Is this all you have?

Calling a disturbed man gay or a fag....really? Is that a tough guy move? Everyone knows Fez is gay, why bash? Do you fag bash out on the streets? Of course not, you'd get beat up by some fags in front of your friends. And then to spend three pages of thread talking about how bad the show is, but you keep paying a your subscription fees...how bad is the show really? Or how dumb are you for spending your money on something you dont like? If your favorite restuarant changed their menu drastically, not to your desire, then you move on to another resturant...you wouldn't keep going in just to complain and talk about the good ole' days, would you?

In closing, leave Fez alone, fight a fair fight you cowards...turn off your radio or cancel your subscription, it's that simple.

Go ahead and fire away...tell me how I dont understand and I'm not a real fan, that I dont get the joke. Bunch of clowns you are....

I think that part of the problem is that Fez knows he's gay, everyone else knows he's gay, but he's deathly afraid to admit it because he feels his friends or his family will turn their back on him.

The drama from "the secret" where there's no drama except for what's in Fez's head is what led to this last 18 months of crying Fez. The man who constantly admits on air that he has parental issues - and perhaps parental acceptance issues - is mortified to come out as "deviant" to his church-going parents.

I've tried to be as even as possible on this issue because I know how mental health issues can drag a person down, but the first step is wanting to get help. It just seems like Fez doesn't want to get help and just goes through the motions because he's afraid of change.

Whenever they put him on a medication, he stops taking it because he claims he doesn't like the way they make him feel. (which is also a typical excuse that someone with moderate-to-severe mental illness will use) Yet logically, it would seem they would make him feel better than waking up consistently with a sense of dread and/or shaking.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Blowhard and Earl are good to have in studio. When the Blowhard can slow it down and have a conversation, I enjoy his nostalgia. Sometimes, though, I think he gets too caught up in his own persona and tries to drop too many different names and his calls get too specific so that only the smallest percentage of the listening audience can relate.


I'd rather hear Ron get a blumpkin live on the air than hear Blowhard in the studio or even on the air for more than 10 minutes.

[Hottub]

Don't.
He has 3 radio shows and fucks a bag of money at night.