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LordJezo
07-16-2010, 10:52 AM
BMI index is now law:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/69436

We are all now all officially obese.

http://www.hipaasurvivalguide.com/hit-subchapter-d/hit-170-302.php

(e) Record and chart vital signs.

(1) Vital signs. Enable a user to electronically record, modify, and retrieve a patient’s vital signs including, at a minimum, the height, weight, blood pressure, temperature, and pulse.

(2) Calculate body mass index. Automatically calculate and display body mass index (BMI) based on a patient’s height and weight.


Your BMI will be calculated and stored on your official file. Of course for now it is strictly informational but I am sure soon it will be used in insurance premiums and other programs such as putting the obese into work camps to lose weight.

Not even at my skinniest, which was after two days of vomiting and three days of not eating when I was sick in Mexico would I be considered at an acceptable BMI figure. People will need to stop going to the gym and working out as muscle weighs more than fat and that extra weight will get you categorized as obese by the Obama party. Soon I will need to be entered into forced health programs or be made to pay more for the privilege of being so fat.

A.J.
07-16-2010, 10:55 AM
I have absolutely nothing to worry about.

sailor
07-16-2010, 11:15 AM
Sounds fair. Way too many fatties out there.

mikeyboy
07-16-2010, 11:22 AM
If Jezo used his gym to workout instead of to discuss the coming eradication of the right, he wouldn't have anything to worry about.

WRESTLINGFAN
07-16-2010, 11:47 AM
I wonder what the present Surgeon General must think about this

http://www.midlandsconnect.com/uploadedImages/Shared/News/National_Stories/regina.jpg

Obama must have a thing for Fat gelatenous women. There's Sotomayor, Kagan, Napolitano and the S.G.

Dudeman
07-16-2010, 12:08 PM
I wonder what the present Surgeon General must think about this

http://www.midlandsconnect.com/uploadedImages/Shared/News/National_Stories/regina.jpg

Obama must have a thing for Fat gelatenous women. There's Sotomayor, Kagan, Napolitano and the S.G.

Or smart women, as opposed to...
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/55841420.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDD5779E5828A03E72 1EBE229C81D0780EB7374D9418E99796B01E70F2B3269972

WRESTLINGFAN
07-16-2010, 12:30 PM
Or smart women, as opposed to...
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/55841420.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDD5779E5828A03E72 1EBE229C81D0780EB7374D9418E99796B01E70F2B3269972

Ironic that the nations top doctor is a fattie who looks like a candidate for a heart attack.

JPMNICK
07-16-2010, 12:46 PM
Ironic that the nations top doctor is a fattie who looks like a candidate for a heart attack.

she also looks like a turtle

keithy_19
07-16-2010, 01:06 PM
she also looks like a turtle

I simply adore her now.

disneyspy
07-16-2010, 01:12 PM
I simply adore her now.

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StanUpshaw
07-16-2010, 02:18 PM
Fatriot Act

Thief!

epo
07-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Good. It will be another registered way I can show the world my superiority.

Serpico1103
07-16-2010, 04:13 PM
I wonder what the present Surgeon General must think about this

http://www.midlandsconnect.com/uploadedImages/Shared/News/National_Stories/regina.jpg

Obama must have a thing for Fat gelatenous women. There's Sotomayor, Kagan, Napolitano and the S.G.

A woman on the brink of morbid obesity is telling us how to be healthy. Is she eating all the twinkies so we can't have any?

How about you show us what healthy looks like. And I know she has referred to herself as a diva before.

SatCam
07-16-2010, 04:30 PM
This is awesome. We finally have a legitimate way to deport all those fat hispanic woman

NewYorkDragons80
07-16-2010, 04:45 PM
she also looks like a turtle

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Barnaby Jones
07-16-2010, 07:27 PM
You'd think with all of his gym-based stories a fitness nut like Jezo would be all for this! Weird!

WRESTLINGFAN
07-16-2010, 08:17 PM
If our women get fat and we don't want to be with them anymore will there be a gov't program called Cash for Cows ?

STC-Dub
07-16-2010, 08:23 PM
I will worry about it if I ever visit the doctor again.

sailor
07-17-2010, 02:23 AM
You'd think with all of his gym-based stories a fitness nut like Jezo would be all for this! Weird!

i think he was trying to point out (at least in part) that bmi is a very imperfect metric. it's just based on height and weight and doesn't take muscularity into account. i remember it coming out years ago that shaq was listed as obese if you used the bmi formula.

http://www.lakersuniverse.com/imagenes/shaq_smile.jpg

Barnaby Jones
07-17-2010, 06:19 AM
Shaq's always been a big fat ass!

Jezo and sailor; what a pair!

Death Metal Moe
07-17-2010, 06:28 AM
I forgot the sky was falling, thanks Jezo for reminding me.

StanUpshaw
07-17-2010, 06:35 AM
I forgot the sky was falling, thanks Jezo for reminding me.

Just wait till they make you sew a fat patch on your jacket, tubby.

WRESTLINGFAN
07-17-2010, 07:03 AM
Just wait till they make you sew a fat patch on your jacket, tubby.

When the fat camps open and they tell the prisoners that its dessert time you know what that means. Just don't fall for the Death by Chocolate gag

Ogre
07-18-2010, 02:45 PM
When the fat camps open and they tell the prisoners that its dessert time you know what that means. Just don't fall for the Death by Chocolate gag

http://www.flarerecord.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Fat-Albert-cartoon.jpg

Death by Chocolate sounds A-OKAY !!

hanso
08-01-2010, 06:47 PM
Just got done with ice cream.


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Dudeman
08-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Just got done with ice cream.


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"According to a study of national costs attributed to both overweight (BMI 25–29.9) and obesity (BMI greater than 30), medical expenses accounted for 9.1 percent of total U.S. medical expenditures in 1998 and may have reached as high as $78.5 billion ($92.6 billion in 2002 dollars) (Finkelstein, Fiebelkorn, and Wang, 2003). Approximately half of these costs were paid by Medicaid and Medicare." (from the CDC)

Hard to cry for the obese guy ordering some meat lover pizza's when we have to pay his medical bills.

StanUpshaw
08-01-2010, 07:10 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/14/obamacise2.gif

Dudeman
08-01-2010, 07:23 PM
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/14/obamacise2.gif

They forgot to change the sweater- Mr. Burns went to Yale, Obama went to Columbia and Harvard Law (without having daddy's connections to get him in.)

Dude!
08-01-2010, 07:32 PM
They forgot to change the sweater- Mr. Burns went to Yale, Obama went to Columbia and Harvard Law (affirmative action got him in.)

you are right

Dudeman
08-01-2010, 09:14 PM
you are right

even if that were true, he still did very well at each place (editor of the law review...). bush had a C average at yale.

TripleSkeet
08-01-2010, 10:26 PM
"According to a study of national costs attributed to both overweight (BMI 25–29.9) and obesity (BMI greater than 30), medical expenses accounted for 9.1 percent of total U.S. medical expenditures in 1998 and may have reached as high as $78.5 billion ($92.6 billion in 2002 dollars) (Finkelstein, Fiebelkorn, and Wang, 2003). Approximately half of these costs were paid by Medicaid and Medicare." (from the CDC)

Hard to cry for the obese guy ordering some meat lover pizza's when we have to pay his medical bills.

I never got this attitude. Youre not paying his medical bills. Do you feel the same way about people that have AIDS? I mean, most of the people that have it couldve prevented it. Should they have to pay more for their insurance? Are you unfairly paying their medical bills?

If it makes you feel better just pretend the nickels you put into it go towards childrens leukemia or something like that and they are using other peoples money for the overweight.

Kevin
08-01-2010, 11:04 PM
you are right



No...

You do realize that Harvard and Columbia have enough minorities that Aff action does not apply..

Right Cletus Varnum?

pennington
08-02-2010, 05:11 AM
even if that were true, he still did very well at each place

Do we know that? He wouldn't release his transcripts or say how he got in or who paid for it.

Dude!
08-02-2010, 07:06 AM
even if that were true, he still did very well at each place (editor of the law review...). bush had a C average at yale.

how do you know
how he did?

he has not released
his college transcripts
unlike bush, gore and
everyone else

what is he hiding?

Serpico1103
08-02-2010, 12:56 PM
how do you know
how he did?

he has not released
his college transcripts
unlike bush, gore and
everyone else

what is he hiding?

Harvard confirmed that Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, top 10%.

Syd
08-02-2010, 03:32 PM
Harvard confirmed that Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, top 10%.

yeah sure and Hawaii confirmed Obama was born there :thumbdown:

Kevin
08-02-2010, 03:35 PM
yeah sure and Hawaii confirmed Obama was born there :thumbdown:



Which just like the Harvard thing is true..

Fucking Hayseeds.

StanUpshaw
08-02-2010, 03:58 PM
Can we please get back to discussing our devolution into a combination police and nanny state? A Pony State, if you will.

keithy_19
08-02-2010, 04:07 PM
A Pony State, if you will.

Finally! Something I can get behind.

http://coolcanucks.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/mylittlepony.jpg

Kevin
08-02-2010, 04:43 PM
Can we please get back to discussing our devolution into a combination police and nanny state? A Pony State, if you will.

Yea..

You mean like when Obama started spying on everyone beacause of "National Securit"?

Oh wait..

That was not him..

Dudeman
08-02-2010, 04:58 PM
Can we please get back to discussing our devolution into a combination police and nanny state? A Pony State, if you will.

My mistake, I thought this thread was about our out of control healthcare expendatures and the excessive amount of money paid out to people who have self induced medical related issues (ie smokers and the obese (from overeating and inactivity.))

Dude!
08-02-2010, 05:01 PM
My mistake, I thought this thread was about our out of control healthcare expendatures and the excessive amount of money paid out to people who have self induced medical related issues (ie smokers and the obese (from overeating and inactivity.))

and guys who willingly
bring on AIDS
by getting fucked, right?

Dudeman
08-02-2010, 05:03 PM
and guys who willingly
bring on AIDS
by getting fucked, right?

if
you're not
using
condoms...
you're an idiot


(by the way, why are the right wing types so afraid of teaching about condoms?)

encourage smokers to stop smoking, gay men to use condoms, and obese inactive overeaters to eat healthier and excercise.

StanUpshaw
08-02-2010, 05:10 PM
My mistake, I thought this thread was about our out of control healthcare expendatures and the excessive amount of money paid out to people who have self induced medical related issues (ie smokers and the obese (from overeating and inactivity.))

Your mistake indeed. I hope your deficient reading comprehension is not self induced. Paint huffer, or just bad breeding?

Dudeman
08-02-2010, 05:11 PM
Your mistake indeed. I hope your deficient reading comprehension is not self induced. Paint huffer?

no, white out

aren't you guys all about personal responsibility?

StanUpshaw
08-02-2010, 05:16 PM
Define "you guys."

WRESTLINGFAN
08-02-2010, 05:30 PM
Yea..

You mean like when Obama is continuing spying on everyone beacause of "National Securit"?

Oh wait..

That is him..


Fixed

Serpico1103
08-03-2010, 08:25 PM
yeah sure and Hawaii confirmed Obama was born there :thumbdown:

:surrender:

Syd
08-04-2010, 08:57 PM
American society has become "obesogenic" according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC): their latest report shows that nine states now report more than 30 per cent of adults are obese, yet it was only ten years ago that no state had a 30 per cent or more rate of obesity in its adult population.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/196849.php

The nine states with obesity rates of 30 percent or more are Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee and West Virginia.

A BMI of 30 and over counts as obese: and this would include for instance a woman 5 foot 4 inches tall (1.63 m) weighing 174 pounds (79 kilos) or more, or a man 5 ft 10 ins tall (1.78 m) weighing 209 pounds or more (95 kilos).

The new epidemic sweeping the underclass: obesity. Almost time to consider cutting down the calories in fast food, or just sit back and let it happen?

StanUpshaw
08-04-2010, 09:05 PM
All bullshit aside, do you honestly think that would make one single fucking bit of difference?

Syd
08-05-2010, 07:22 AM
All bullshit aside, do you honestly think that would make one single fucking bit of difference?

Probably, yes. Fast food meals usually have half your caloric intake per day. Americans are eating, on average, something like 3500+ calories per day. That'd fall in line with eating fast food multiple times a day and the obesity/diabetes issues plaguing the nation.

Kublakhan61
08-05-2010, 09:04 AM
Your BMI will be calculated and stored on your official file. Of course for now it is strictly informational but I am sure soon it will be used in insurance premiums and other programs such as putting the obese into work camps to lose weight.



Don't be so sure, the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance providers from denying
coverage or charging higher premiums on the basis of health. Fact.

I do think fat people need to get their acts together so I hope you are right about that work camps thing.

Syd
08-18-2010, 05:47 PM
According to the study, an estimated one billion gallons of extra fuel were used up to compensate for the added weight of drivers and passengers from 1960 to 2002. If you look at it another way, 0.7 percent of all the fuel burned in vehicles from 1960 to 2002 has been attributable to passengers who have packed on a few extra pounds. Or, how about this one: 39 million gallons of fuel are burned for each pound gained by the average American. While these numbers will probably make an eco-conscious driver think twice next time they're in line at a fast food joint, it seems unlikely that the majority Americans will slim down for the simple sake of saving fuel.

http://www.cdc.gov/media/pressrel/2010/r100803.htm

and for reference:

The August Vital Signs report is based on new data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS). BRFSS contains state-level public health data and provides a way for states to monitor progress toward Healthy People goals. To assess obesity prevalence, approximately 400,000 phone survey respondents were asked to provide their height and weight, which was used to calculate their body mass index (BMI). An adult is considered obese if he or she has a BMI of 30 or above. For example, a 5-foot-4 woman who weighs 174 pounds or more, or a 5-foot-10 man who weighs 209 pounds or more has a BMI of 30, and so is considered obese.

There's not a lot of athletes who are 5'10 and 209 pounds that aren't a runningback or linebacker, eitiher.

WRESTLINGFAN
08-18-2010, 06:52 PM
I think FLOTUS should be concerned that caboose on her makes up a lot of BMI

Barnaby Jones
08-18-2010, 06:59 PM
Look at Syd's post, WF! Marvel at the ideal way to post a source!

WRESTLINGFAN
08-18-2010, 07:02 PM
Look at Syd's post, WF! Marvel at the ideal way to post a source!

Give it a rest. If this site was around in 1990 we would all be making fun of Barbara Bush

Barnaby Jones
08-18-2010, 07:04 PM
Nobody was talking about your shitty joke! STOP HAVING MADE UP CONVERSATIONS!

TripleSkeet
08-18-2010, 08:54 PM
Don't be so sure, the Affordable Care Act prohibits insurance providers from denying
coverage or charging higher premiums on the basis of health. Fact.

I do think fat people need to get their acts together so I hope you are right about that work camps thing.

Out of his whole post THATS the part you believed???

hanso
08-21-2010, 09:16 PM
http://www.10pix.ru/img1/3277/2132486.jpg
Exemption?

StanUpshaw
08-21-2010, 09:26 PM
http://www.10pix.ru/img1/3277/2132486.jpg
Exemption?

So it's already started?

http://imgur.com/SJEHs.gif

hanso
08-25-2010, 04:18 PM
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Let's start at the top.

Syd
09-01-2010, 04:56 PM
Paramedics increasingly report seeing more people on a regular basis who needed extra hands to lift or had to be hoisted by tarps instead of standard stretchers, whose capacity tops out at 500 lbs. In central Mississippi, a state where one-third of the population hits the definition of "obese," the heaviest patient transported to date weighed 700 pounds. In the Washington, D.C., area, paramedics say every few months they need to carry someone pushing 600 lbs., and a few have pushed beyond the half-ton mark.

http://jalopnik.com/5627358/americas-ambulances-upgrade-for-xl+sized-patients

More "holy shit people are so fat it makes you scratch your head"

Dudeman
09-04-2010, 10:20 AM
“What we were finding was that the soldiers we’re getting in today’s Army are not in as good shape as they used to be,” said Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, who oversees basic training for the Army. “This is not just an Army issue. This is a national issue.”

Excess weight is the leading reason the Army rejects potential recruits. And while that has been true for years, the problem has worsened as the waistlines of America’s youth have expanded. This year, a group of retired generals and admirals released a report titled “Too Fat to Fight.” (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/us/31soldier.html)

i doubt the army is rejecting people who weight alot because of their muscle mass

TripleSkeet
09-04-2010, 01:39 PM
“What we were finding was that the soldiers we’re getting in today’s Army are not in as good shape as they used to be,” said Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, who oversees basic training for the Army. “This is not just an Army issue. This is a national issue.”

Excess weight is the leading reason the Army rejects potential recruits. And while that has been true for years, the problem has worsened as the waistlines of America’s youth have expanded. This year, a group of retired generals and admirals released a report titled “Too Fat to Fight.” (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/us/31soldier.html)

i doubt the army is rejecting people who weight alot because of their muscle mass

That has nothing to do with the fact that BMI is not a true way to measure obesity.

Syd
09-04-2010, 04:14 PM
That has nothing to do with the fact that BMI is not a true way to measure obesity.

It's a true way for the common person. Again, we're talking about obesity not being overweight. For the average man of 5'10, 210 lbs counts as being obese.

How many people do you know that weigh 210 lbs and aren't running around with massive guts and several chins?

Just take a walk around and look.

TripleSkeet
09-04-2010, 05:14 PM
It's a true way for the common person. Again, we're talking about obesity not being overweight. For the average man of 5'10, 210 lbs counts as being obese.

How many people do you know that weigh 210 lbs and aren't running around with massive guts and several chins?

Just take a walk around and look.

Dont get me wrong, more times then not they will be right, but how its being used is flawed. If you are filling out paperwork for insurance, and they ask for weight and height, and you are muscular athletic guy like a former wrestler or just a guy that likes to work out....it doesnt matter. Theyll never know this. Height and weight. Thats all they ask and then it determines if you are overweight, obese, etc. Body fat percentage is a much better way to measure something like that. But because its more work to figure it out that way, they dont use it. How ironic.

Syd
09-05-2010, 12:44 AM
Dont get me wrong, more times then not they will be right, but how its being used is flawed. If you are filling out paperwork for insurance, and they ask for weight and height, and you are muscular athletic guy like a former wrestler or just a guy that likes to work out....it doesnt matter. Theyll never know this. Height and weight. Thats all they ask and then it determines if you are overweight, obese, etc. Body fat percentage is a much better way to measure something like that. But because its more work to figure it out that way, they dont use it. How ironic.

If you are filling out paperwork for insurance, and they ask for smoking or tobacco use, and you are a smoker or a guy that likes to dip....they'll never know. Your word. That's all they ask and then it determines if you are at risk for cardiovascular problems or lung cancer. But because it's more work to test someone for tobacco use, they don't use it. How ironic.

Anyway, that strawman aside, how many people do you know that are 5'10 and 210lbs but muscular? A 5'10 guy should be around 160, and 50 lbs of muscle is a fucking ton of work if you're not an athlete. If they're that common, the BMI chart would be differently reflected if it altered the average. The same way the average height of a male is 5'10, if people were on average taller than that someone who was 5'10 wouldn't be considered average height.

They're obese or overweight, not big boned or muscular. No use pussyfooting around it.

StanUpshaw
09-05-2010, 05:35 AM
BMI is racist. (http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1616188)

OBJECTIVE: To study the relationship between percent body fat and body mass index (BMI) in different ethnic groups and to evaluate the validity of the BMI cut-off points for obesity. DESIGN: Meta analysis of literature data. SUBJECTS: Populations of American Blacks, Caucasians, Chinese, Ethiopians, Indonesians, Polynesians and Thais. MEASUREMENTS: Mean values of BMI, percent body fat, gender and age were adapted from original papers. RESULTS: The relationship between percent body fat and BMI differs in the ethnic groups studied. For the same level of body fat, age and gender, American Blacks have a 1.3 kg/m2 and Polynesians a 4.5 kg/m2 lower BMI compared to Caucasians. By contrast, in Chinese, Ethiopians, Indonesians and Thais BMls are 1.9, 4.6, 3.2 and 2.9 kg/m2 lower compared to Caucasians, respectively. Slight differences in the relationship between percent body fat and BMI of American Caucasians and European Caucasians were also found. The differences found in the body fat/BMI relationship in different ethnic groups could be due to differences in energy balance as well as to differences in body build. CONCLUSIONS: The results show that the relationship between percent body fat and BMI is different among different ethnic groups. This should have public health implications for the definitions of BMI cut-off points for obesity, which would need to be population-specific.

StanUpshaw
09-05-2010, 05:54 AM
BMI is Ageist and utterly useless when it comes to athletes (http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/2007/03000/Body_Mass_Index_as_a_Predictor_of_Percent_Fat_in.2 .aspx)



Introduction: Body mass index (BMI) is used as a surrogate for percent fat (% fat) in classifying obesity. However, there is no established criterion for % fat and health risk, and few studies have examined the accuracy/validity of BMI as a measure of % fat. By default, BMI is used to classify athletes and young adults as obese. Consequently, it is critical to understand the accuracy of BMI in these populations. The purposes of this study were 1) to describe the relationship between BMI and % fat, and 2) to determine the accuracy of BMI as a measure of % fat in college athletes and nonathletes.

Methods: A total of 226 college-aged athletes and 213 college-aged nonathletes participated. Three male groups (athletes, football linemen, and nonathletes) and two female groups (athletes and nonathletes) were created. BMI was calculated. Percent fat was determined via BOD POD. BMI ≥ 25 kg·m-2 was used to define overweight. Twenty percent fat for males and 33% fat for females were used to define overfatness. Using % fat as the criterion, sensitivity and specificity of BMI were calculated. Receiver operator characteristic curves determined optimal BMI cut points for % fat.

Results: Sensitivity was high (0.83-1.0) and specificity was low (0.27-0.66) in male athletes, male nonathletes, and female athletes. Sensitivity was high in linemen (1.0). Sensitivity was low (0.56) and specificity was high (0.90) in female nonathletes. Optimal BMI cut points for male athletes, linemen, male nonathletes, female athletes, and female nonathletes were 27.9, 34.1, 26.5, 27.7, and 24.0 kg·m-2, respectively.

Conclusions: BMI should be used cautiously when classifying fatness in college athletes and nonathletes. Our results support the need for different BMI classifications of overweight in these populations.

Dudeman
09-05-2010, 08:38 AM
Here is the CDC's information on using BMI. It seems to be a reasonable summary that points out the benefits and limitations for using BMI as a screening tool. (http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/adult_bmi/index.html#Other%20Ways)

hanso
10-10-2010, 05:22 PM
http://www.10pix.ru/img1/1219/2482609.jpg

We can beat the system.

CruelCircus
10-10-2010, 05:44 PM
A 5'10 guy should be around 160...

You're nuts.
I'm 5'10" and the last time I weighed 160 I was probably 14 or 15. When I was the leanest I ever was, as a HS varsity swimmer, I was around 170. That's with about as little body fat as a non-elite athlete can get.

If you expect adult men to hit that mark, you're setting them all up to fail. 160 for a full-grown adult would look anorexic. I'd say 175-180 is a much more reasonable and acceptable expectation for anyone beyond college age.

Dudeman
10-10-2010, 06:58 PM
You're nuts.
I'm 5'10" and the last time I weighed 160 I was probably 14 or 15. When I was the leanest I ever was, as a HS varsity swimmer, I was around 170. That's with about as little body fat as a non-elite athlete can get.

If you expect adult men to hit that mark, you're setting them all up to fail. 160 for a full-grown adult would look anorexic. I'd say 175-180 is a much more reasonable and acceptable expectation for anyone beyond college age.

obesity is a BMI >30 (that is to say, bmi is a screening for obesity. a physician should look more closely at a person with BMI >30. clearly if it is an nfl running back, the physician can say that is different then a couch potato.)

for a 5'10" person, that would be > 210 lbs

hanso
10-10-2010, 07:08 PM
That sounds about right. Age should also be a factor. As it becomes easier to put on weight. And harder to loose it as we age.

Syd
10-11-2010, 07:49 PM
So people should just let themselves go and let diabetes ruin their body because it's difficult to stay thin?

TripleSkeet
10-11-2010, 11:03 PM
You're nuts.
I'm 5'10" and the last time I weighed 160 I was probably 14 or 15. When I was the leanest I ever was, as a HS varsity swimmer, I was around 170. That's with about as little body fat as a non-elite athlete can get.

If you expect adult men to hit that mark, you're setting them all up to fail. 160 for a full-grown adult would look anorexic. I'd say 175-180 is a much more reasonable and acceptable expectation for anyone beyond college age.

Agreed. They shouldnt be 210 but 160 is ridiculous.

At 6'2 215 I was considered overweight and told that my ideal BMI should be 190 lbs. I dont even remember what it was for, this was the first time Id ever heard of it. I laughed in the girls face. I hadnt been 190 since sophomore year in high school, and at that point I was 5'6.

I told her straight up that I may not be cut like a greek statue but I was definitely at an ideal weight for myself. I wouldnt wanna be less then 215 because in my opinion I looked sick when I went that low. And I told her unless I lose a limb it was physically impossible for me to get below 200.

A.J.
10-12-2010, 06:51 AM
160 for a full-grown adult would look anorexic.

Tell me about it. :glurps:

hanso
10-12-2010, 10:23 PM
The chart is off. I'm 5'10" and when I was 16 I took up surfing. Then I was mid 160's. That's all I would do surf all day. Would have surfed nights had my bud's not talked me out of it.

On rough surf days I could loose 5Lbs in one day. All during this time. I was closer to 170 then 160.

angrytruckingguy
10-13-2010, 12:48 AM
earlier this year I had to renew my medical card and you don't want to fuck with these NPs, they work for the company not the patients and they can give you a provisional dot med card (only good for 3 or 6months) rather than a 2 year one. they each told me that at 5'9" x 200lbs that i'm overweight(no shit!) and if there is any other factor-snoring, trouble bending down, or stepping up that I would be unfit. Now the guy np is taller than me, like 6', but he is also more than 200+ and the lady np has iceberg syndrome and easily 300. I carry my bike on the truck and ride when I can- usually to go eat. By the way it's not a road bike x gears it's a single speed freestyle, i can't hop it onto a park bench or whip a 360, but i can pop it on and off sidewalks. The point being that these folks, that practically threatened to declare me unfit, I could outrun, outlift, outbox, outbike, -basically anything they could do i can do better. So I say- fuck the standards, it should be on a case by case basis. And when in a group of drivers I am usually the smallest.

Bob Impact
10-13-2010, 01:29 PM
I'm 130 and according to my doctor "a very healthy animal."

Suck it, fatties.

Serpico1103
10-13-2010, 02:01 PM
I'm 130 and according to my doctor "a very healthy animal."

Suck it, fatties.

Adult? Male? 130? Over 5'6? Don't believe it.

StanUpshaw
10-13-2010, 02:56 PM
Our very own leprechaun!

TripleSkeet
10-13-2010, 03:34 PM
I'm 130 and according to my doctor "a very healthy animal."

Suck it, fatties.

LMAO. I believe you are. What are you? A ferret?

Bob Impact
10-13-2010, 03:36 PM
Adult? Male? 130? Over 5'6? Don't believe it.

29 yes 5'7

Serpico1103
10-13-2010, 03:39 PM
29 yes 5'7

Tweeker?

Bob Impact
10-13-2010, 11:53 PM
Tweeker?

nope

TripleSkeet
10-14-2010, 11:00 PM
29 yes 5'7

Skinny jeans were made with you in mind.

hanso
07-10-2011, 06:18 AM
http://www.10pix.ru/img1/1550/4945916.jpg

WRESTLINGFAN
07-10-2011, 08:15 AM
http://www.10pix.ru/img1/1550/4945916.jpg

Almost 100% accurate but skinny arms and legs? You need tree trunks for those


On another note. FUCKIN STARVIN

Syd
07-10-2011, 09:51 AM
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/230780.php

Twelve states (mainly poverty stricken ones) now have obesity rates above 30% (meaning a 5'10 male weighing 210lbs or more)

America, fuck yeah.

Zorro
07-10-2011, 02:14 PM
About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight (a body mass index of 25-30 kg/m2), and an additional 17% of men and 21% of women are obese (a body mass index of more than 30 kg/m2 ).

Overweight and obesity increase with age. About 28% of men and 27% of women aged 16-24 are overweight or obese but 76% of men and 68% of women aged 55-64 are overweight or obese.

Overweight and obesity are increasing. The percentage of adults who are obese has roughly doubled since the mid-1980's.



Hail Britannia !!!

hanso
07-10-2011, 03:26 PM
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/230780.php

Twelve states (mainly poverty stricken ones) now have obesity rates above 30% (meaning a 5'10 male weighing 210lbs or more)

America, fuck yeah.

I'm doing my part. Even if it is by only a few/three pounds.

StanUpshaw
09-02-2011, 09:22 PM
Dudeman just came (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,783862,00.html)

cougarjake13
09-03-2011, 05:55 PM
Dudeman just came (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,783862,00.html)

id support that law

A.J.
09-05-2011, 08:55 AM
Dudeman just came (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,783862,00.html)

Good. Bring it here.

TripleSkeet
09-05-2011, 10:00 AM
Good. Bring it here.

You want Dudemans cum?

disneyspy
09-05-2011, 10:05 AM
You want Dudemans cum?

what are you and AJ gonna french kiss?

A.J.
09-05-2011, 10:12 AM
You want Dudemans cum?

Is it low-fat?

jennysmurf
09-05-2011, 07:24 PM
Dudeman just came (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,783862,00.html)

It's not a bad idea at first glance, but one guy made a good point--there's got to be a way to make the healthy food more affordable. Junk food is cheaper, so some (not all) people choose it for that reason.

sailor
09-06-2011, 02:36 AM
Good. Bring it here.

if we had nationalized health-care, sure. but we don't.