Attn Haters: The MEGA, MEGA "Penultimate" Anti-Fez Thread

[JPMNICK]

that is pretty shitty if this is not a bit. i did not hear the show.

ron has said many times he is fezzies friend, but fez is not his friend. he would never be able to depend on fez for anything

[Space Edge]

I don't think Fez cares about anyone other then himself

[Recyclerz]

I heard (at least) one time on the show Ronnie say that if he died Fez would be like Big Bird on Sesame Street when he found out about Mr. Hooper passing - "But who will make my birdseed milkshakes and tell me stories?"

As is the standard wth Ronnie B, it's funny and it's true.

[Misteriosa]

this thread will definitely end well..

:popcorn:

[JPMNICK]

who brought it up on the show? and was it done in a joking manner? was mr b in long?

[earlsgmaclit]

well it can't be the gay pride parade that past..........was there a andy griffith show marathon on?

[ChrisBrown]

I'm hoping it's a bit and Fez visited Ron at least a couple of times.

[foodcourtdruide]

who brought it up on the show? and was it done in a joking manner? was mr b in long?

In the hospital 4 days. Ron was joking about it, but Fez sounded pretty serious and during the segment I heard almost cried.

[IamFogHat]

I assumed he was having his agoraphobic anxiety issues and feels really regretful about it and angry at himself now.

[AHerald117]

I'm hoping it's a bit and Fez visited Ron at least a couple of times.

That would require the issue/problem to be about Fez, otherwise he has no interest. Poor Ron, a host with out a 'real friend' co-host

[sailor]

Ron always tells Fez as an adult you do what you want and don't worry about feeling guilty. Maybe Fez was trying this?

[disneyspy]

fez didnt give an excuse,he gave a reason,ron has family in the area and didnt want to hinder his recuperation

the posters on this board really should be above this rube thinking

[Zorro]

Knowing Fez I would guess he kept agonizing all week long about what was the right thing to do. By the time he got to an answer the week was over.

[oandarandf]

the story of fez's life a day late and a dollar short of mental health. off topic (wont let me start new thread) but does anyone know why they play jay-z's "on to the next one". i find it hysterical every time ron does it. bring me back some money please.

[Enabler]

Fez really should donate his appendix to Ron.

[Contra]

I always miss the good works

[pillsaregood]

I'm glad he didn't visit.

Probably would have just caused Ron to have to use more energy to keep the conversation moving along. Stay away ya fucking cancer.

I wish he wouldn't visit this dying show anymore. Then it would finally die and we could move onto the Ron and Dave Show.

[Crispy123]

fez didnt give an excuse,he gave a reason,ron has family in the area and didnt want to hinder his recuperation

the posters on this board really should be above this rube thinking

Freakin Rubes is right.

[Contra]

I'm glad he didn't visit.

Probably would have just caused Ron to have to use more energy to keep the conversation moving along. Stay away ya fucking cancer.

I wish he wouldn't visit this dying show anymore. Then it would finally die and we could move onto the Ron and Dave Show.

Dave has moved on

[Kevin]

Ron and Dave show will never happen, so save your breath..

Like the above post said..

He moved on

[Kevin]

fez didnt give an excuse,he gave a reason,ron has family in the area and didnt want to hinder his recuperation

the posters on this board really should be above this rube thinking



His recuperation?

please.. he had his fucking appendix taken out, not a tripple bypass.

Fez should have visted.

You stop being a rube and believing everything you hear on the radio.

From what i hear, Fez did not sound like a guy that was given that type of reason not to come.

I'm usualy pro Fez, but thats Bs stuff he pulled.

[Dudeman]

Ron and Fez are somewhat like family. There are some family members that need the family when they get sick or are in trouble. There are others who want as few family members visiting them when they are sick.

Is it possible fez is the type that needs any family he can get to help him when he is sick, but ron prefers to have as few as possible seeing him or being involved when he is sick?

[biggestmexi]

Ever try walking with cum in your ass?

It aint easy brother.

[disneyspy]

His recuperation?

please.. he had his fucking appendix taken out, not a tripple bypass.

Fez should have visted.

You stop being a rube and believing everything you hear on the radio.

From what i hear, Fez did not sound like a guy that was given that type of reason not to come.

I'm usualy pro Fez, but thats Bs stuff he pulled.

all you've heard is what you've read here,thats the BS,quit bein a rube and pretending like you know whats going on mr radio know it all

[Kevin]

all you've heard is what you've read here,thats the BS,quit bein a rube and pretending like you know whats going on mr radio know it all



Tony Romo eats a dick..

HOW BOUT THAT!?

[disneyspy]

Tony Romo eats a dick..

HOW BOUT THAT!?

peyton manning is a retard

[Kevin]

peyton manning is a retard



Get the right QB name, OLD MAN!

I KNOW you ment Eli.

[disneyspy]

Get the right QB name, OLD MAN!

I KNOW you ment Eli.

FUCK!!

[Barnaby Jones]

Fez certainly seems to be a walking pile of paranoia...maybe hospitals freak him out!

[Meataball23]

I havent been able to listen but this has to be a bit right?? Fez was obviously in the hospital the moment he heard Mr. B had to go in...and then again when he wasnt at work...

I mean hes incapable of doing a show w/o Mr. B so what exactly did Fez do from 11-3?

Did ESD come visit? Lord knows that poor bastard knows his way around a hospital and would be ready to pit bull if anything came up.

[chaza]

I've been trying not to pile on, but Fez not visiting Ron just made me fucking furious. I've disliked Fez on the show for the last few years, and understood Fez going through something, but this is fucking terrible. Fez has been unbearable on the show since Dave has left, and this shit brings it up another level.

[yellowstonesteve]

If Ron was hooked up to monitors, it would have been interesting to hear what effect Fez walking into the room had on his BP.

[sailor]

I'm glad he didn't visit.

Probably would have just caused Ron to have to use more energy to keep the conversation moving along. Stay away ya fucking cancer.

I wish he wouldn't visit this dying show anymore. Then it would finally die and we could move onto the Ron and Dave Show.

We get it, you hate him. It doesn't need to go into every thread.

[ChrisBrown]

I'm guessing Fez visited Ron at least a couple of times in the hospital. I bet they decided saying he didn't visit would get the Fez haters foaming at the mouth. Ron lets in the Fez hating calls. They seem to be enjoying Fez playing the heel.

[dommer]

In Fez' world, the only things that matter are the things that happen to him. The only things that are scary are the things that scare him. He's a self-involved douche with no ability to relate to the feelings and needs of others. If they hadn't ended the conversation about Fez not visiting, Fez would have eventually had the balls to start crying and making it about him. Ron had to start going into "I don't care what you do" talk to prevent the flow of self-hating fag-tears. He's just a bad human being on virtually every level.

Also stop with the "rubes" and "it's a bit" bullshit every time your point of view is demonstrably false. It's not a bit. You're not an insider who has it all figured out. Fez is awful on the radio and awful as a person.

[knockknock]

What's so awful is that in this dismal economy there are many hungry, interesting funny people who could be second mike on this radio show. And Fez just sits there, drawing a paycheck, clearly useless. He couldn't even do a radio show with his name on it while his partner was in the hospital. There are amateur podcasters who are more entertaining and talented than Fez.

Fez makes it painful to listen the Ron show.

[dommer]

What's so awful is that in this dismal economy there are many hungry, interesting funny people who could be second mike on this radio show. And Fez just sits there, drawing a paycheck, clearly useless. He couldn't even do a radio show with his name on it while his partner was in the hospital. There are amateur podcasters who are more entertaining and talented than Fez.

Fez makes it painful to listen the Ron show.

Amateur podcasters? 9 out of 10 people randomly pulled off of the street would be better than Fez on the radio. Anybody else in studio, even the mentally deficient Crazed and A.J. Dynamite are better on the radio than Fez. Oh wait, maybe I don't get the bit because I'm a rube. This hilarious bit where one of the hosts cries, is incompetent, and contributes nothing for the better part of a decade. What a sublime bit. Way over my head.

[CountryBob]

Ron keeps telling Fez that he didnt mind him not visiting him in the hospital. But he keeps on needling Fez with it by dropping little subtle hints. I dont understand great radio:huh:

[sailor]

Alright, now this will have to be merged. Thanks for not being able to have a conversation like a fucking human.

[TripleSkeet]

I heard (at least) one time on the show Ronnie say that if he died Fez would be like Big Bird on Sesame Street when he found out about Mr. Hooper passing - "But who will make my birdseed milkshakes and tell me stories?"

As is the standard wth Ronnie B, it's funny and it's true.

Thats one of the funniest analogies Ive ever heard. :lol:



Ever try walking with cum in your ass?

It aint easy brother.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[AHerald117]

Ron: "Fez is my friend from 11-3"

[brettmojo]

With all the experiences Fez has had with hospitals over the last decade or so I can't really kill the guy for not going to see Ron. Especially since it apparent wasn't that bad if he could show up at his job less than a week later.

[Crispy123]

I'm guessing Fez visited Ron at least a couple of times in the hospital. I bet they decided saying he didn't visit would get the Fez haters foaming at the mouth. Ron lets in the Fez hating calls. They seem to be enjoying Fez playing the heel.

Sure, its a complete work. Fezzy was twittering from the hospital the whole time. Some of these idiots wouldn't know funny if it raped them in the ass.

[pillsaregood]

We get it, you hate him. It doesn't need to go into every thread.

We get it.

The mods here do nothing all day but follow people around telling them not to post their opinions unless they are of the same opinion they share.

I didn't start this thread. I just shared my views in it.

Jeez.

[pillsaregood]

In Fez' world, the only things that matter are the things that happen to him. The only things that are scary are the things that scare him. He's a self-involved douche with no ability to relate to the feelings and needs of others. If they hadn't ended the conversation about Fez not visiting, Fez would have eventually had the balls to start crying and making it about him. Ron had to start going into "I don't care what you do" talk to prevent the flow of self-hating fag-tears. He's just a bad human being on virtually every level.

Also stop with the "rubes" and "it's a bit" bullshit every time your point of view is demonstrably false. It's not a bit. You're not an insider who has it all figured out. Fez is awful on the radio and awful as a person.

Right on!

:clap::clap::clap:

The people here sticking up for Fez are enablers. They only do it because he's not someone directly involved in their life. If he was they would run away from contact with him as fast as possible.

[pillsaregood]

Ron: "Fez is my friend from 11-3"

Truth hurts.

Fez blew it when he would not give up some money to keep Dave.

Ron was willing to do so, but Fez said no.

[AHerald117]

Truth hurts.

Fez blew it when he would not give up some money to keep Dave.

Ron was willing to do so, but Fez said no.

Is this true? :help:

[Hepcat22]

Come on, Fez doesn't go anywhere. Especially to a hospital with elevators.

[conman823]

Truth hurts.

Fez blew it when he would not give up some money to keep Dave.

Ron was willing to do so, but Fez said no.

When did this happen? How do you know anything?

[brettmojo]

Truth hurts.

Fez blew it when he would not give up some money to keep Dave.

Ron was willing to do so, but Fez said no.

Is this true? :help:
Yes it's true... This man has no dick.

[Jackie Puppet]

Poor Fezzy is sick with the diamabetes 24 / 7 with no pity.
He misses him pancrease. :sad:

[ChrisBrown]

I'm not a big fan of this bit making Fez a maniac heel who has opinions that are opposite of 97% of the listeners, cries, is scared of elevators, collects toenails, doesn't visit Ron, etc. It seems very pro wrestling to me and I don't find it that funny. The day when he supposedly got drunk and yelled at that intern was when it seemed the most like WWE. But I've got to believe it is all a work. I don't have any insider info and I'm just guessing but it sure seems like they play up Fez's insanity and like it when the callers hate him. Hating Fez personally is like screaming at a heel at a wrestling match. If that's fun for you, great, but if you think it's real, you're being a rube.

[n0thng2bdone]

i think it's both, actually that the real part is the reason they've added to it.

[PapaBear]

Truth hurts.

Fez blew it when he would not give up some money to keep Dave.

Ron was willing to do so, but Fez said no.
And Obama is Muslim, Jayne Mansfield was decapitated, and Mr Green Jeans was Frank Zappa's father.

[Serpico1103]

This has to be a bit. Fez has to know by now that his own instincts are unhealthy. He should always do the opposite of what he thinks is right; i.e. when you are overweight, diabetic, and have a heart condition, don't have McDonalds every day, regardless of what medications you are taking to "fix" your conditions.

Fez didn't talk to his sister or shrink about Ron's condition? Neither of them gave him advice on whether or not he should go?

Fez was sitting in his apartment, a $10, 10 minute, cab ride away, doing nothing, but laundry and vacuuming (yes, I listen because I am fascinated by your insanity), and he really thought not visiting Ron was the right choice?

Did he talk to Ron's wife? HTG? He really is a man child.

[Enabler]

This has to be a bit. Fez has to know by now that his own instincts are unhealthy. He should always do the opposite of what he thinks is right; i.e. when you are overweight, diabetic, and have a heart condition, don't have McDonalds every day, regardless of what medications you are taking to "fix" your conditions.

Fez didn't talk to his sister or shrink about Ron's condition? Neither of them gave him advice on whether or not he should go?

Fez was sitting in his apartment, a $10, 10 minute, cab ride away, doing nothing, but laundry and vacuuming (yes, I listen because I am fascinated by your insanity), and he really thought not visiting Ron was the right choice?

Did he talk to Ron's wife? HTG? He really is a man child.

Dude, he goes NO EGG on the Sausage McMuffins! The man is givin' it everything he's got! Sheesh.

[Serpico1103]

Dude, he goes NO EGG on the Sausage McMuffins! The man is givin' it everything he's got! Sheesh.

Yeah, the only healthy part of it. If it was actually egg.

[PapaBear]

Yeah, the only healthy part of it. If it was actually egg.
They are real eggs.

[TjM]

We get it.

The mods here do nothing all day but follow people around telling them not to post their opinions unless they are of the same opinion they share.

I didn't start this thread. I just shared my views in it.

Jeez.

The mods do nothing of the sort. If the mods actually gave a fuck about Fez you would have been banned by now. So keep shitting on him. You have their blessing

[sailor]

They are real eggs.

that was the craziest thing i've read on here in a while.

The mods do nothing of the sort. If the mods actually gave a fuck about Fez you would have been banned by now. So keep shitting on him. You have their blessing

damned if you do, damned if you don't, huh? the general idea is to give people a chance to try to fit in.

[TjM]

that was the craziest thing i've read on here in a while.



damned if you do, damned if you don't, huh? the general idea is to give people a chance to try to fit in.

34 post all the same shit. I'd say he tried and failed

[Serpico1103]

They are real eggs.

Ingredients of the "egg" in an egg mcmuffin.
Egg
USDA Grade A eggs, soy lecithin (release agent). Prepared with Liquid Margarine: Liquid soybean oil, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, salt, hydrogenated cottonseed oil, soy lecithin, mono-and diglycerides, sodium benzoate and potassium sorbate (preservatives), artificial flavor, citric acid, vitamin A palmitate, beta carotene (color).

So, yes, they use real eggs in making their "egg."

[Tenbatsuzen]

Ingredients of the "egg" in an egg mcmuffin.


So, yes, they use real eggs in making their "egg."

In listing that, you do realize that 90% of those ingredients are the liquid margarine that's used to cook the egg on the griddle, right? Of which, probably an ounce is used?

[StanUpshaw]

Just look at what those corporate fatcats expect us to eat:

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[StanUpshaw]

Anywho, Ron being in the hospital was an emotionally complex issue for Fez, so of course, all he can do is run from it. He's weak and that's what weak people do.

One part of those emotions is certainly the reason that he gave, but it's also everything else people have mentioned. He's angry at the way Ron's been treating him; hospitals remind him of his frailty; Ron's the only friend he has and prefers to stay in denial about Ron's frailty; one of the male nurses rejected his advances and he doesn't want to meet him again. It's all-around too emotional for someone like Fez to face.

[RENFIELD]

THIS STUFF WITH FEZ HAS CREATED A MONSTER !!!

A BIG, FAT GAY ONE...
AND THAT'S THE WORST KIND OF MONSTER !

[OGC]

Maybe Fez thought that appendicitis is contagious and didn't want to be infected.

(I haven't caught up to the recent shows yet, but this has to be a bit.)

[pillsaregood]

The mods do nothing of the sort. If the mods actually gave a fuck about Fez you would have been banned by now. So keep shitting on him. You have their blessing

Why should a member be banned for voicing an opinion on a topic?

There is a thread here to rant about Fez.

But then people get up in arms when people rant about Fez.

Obviously a lot of people don't like Fez. And he's a huge part of the show.

Should we all lie and talk about how much we love him and all the things he does?

Makes no sense.

[PapaBear]

Why should a member be banned for voicing an opinion on a topic?

There is a thread here to rant about Fez.

But then people get up in arms when people rant about Fez.

Obviously a lot of people don't like Fez. And he's a huge part of the show.

Should we all lie and talk about how much we love him and all the things he does?

Makes no sense.


It's one thing to criticize Fez. It's another thing to use a fan board to do NOTHING but bash Fez. Go to Wackbag or something. You are not liked here. Not by regular members OR mods.

[pillsaregood]

It's one thing to criticize Fez. It's another thing to use a fan board to do NOTHING but bash Fez. Go to Wackbag or something. You are not liked here. Not by regular members OR mods.

And I don't care if you don't like me.

And I don't care if other member don't like me.

Get it.

[PapaBear]

And I don't care if you don't like me.

And I don't care if other member don't like me.

Get it.
Then why defend yourself?

[StanUpshaw]

This is so gay. Either ban him or ignore him.

[pillsaregood]

Then why defend yourself?

I am defending the right to express my opinion.

All you guys do here is try and get people to fall in line with the positive opinions on Fez.

It's a losing battle all day every day.

This place is supposed to be about the show, but it seems more like you guys want it to be about how you want peopl to feel about the show as long as it's coming from a positive place.

90% of the calls into the show are ragging on Fez.

You guys are the ones who choose to put yourself into a losing battle day after day after day.

Maybe instead of telling people to go away you should find a more positive show where one of the hosts isn't hated by the entire fan base who loves the other host of the show.

Then you can enjoy yourself while talking about that show.

[PapaBear]

I am defending the right to express my opinion.

All you guys do here is try and get people to fall in line with the positive opinions on Fez.

It's a losing battle all day every day.

This place is supposed to be about the show, but it seems more like you guys want it to be about how you want peopl to feel about the show as long as it's coming from a positive place.

90% of the calls into the show are ragging on Fez.

You guys are the ones who choose to put yourself into a losing battle day after day after day.

Maybe instead of telling people to go away you should find a more positive show where one of the hosts isn't hated by the entire fan base who loves the other host of the show.

Then you can enjoy yourself while talking about that show.
Which Constitutional amendment guarantees the right to freedom of expression on RonFez.net? If you don't like the way the board it run, find another board. The people who bash Fez on the show, are the same people doing it over and over again. Just as you do here. Don't make up lies about the "entire fan base" hating a host of the show.

[PapaBear]

Since Ron made it TOTALLY CLEAR he has no problem with how Fez handled his stay in the hospital, I'm merging the thread here. The thread no longer serves a purpose as a stand alone thread.

[pillsaregood]

Since Ron made it TOTALLY CLEAR he has no problem with how Fez handled his stay in the hospital, I'm merging the thread here. The thread no longer serves a purpose as a stand alone thread.

I wonder how the host of the show feels that this site which is based around his show has a thread, one of he largest on here, called the 'Mega, Mega Anti-Fez' thread?

LMAO.

But then the mods of this place run around telling people to stop bashing Fez.

It's just pure comedy. It's funnier than most of the shows these days.

[PapaBear]

I wonder how the host of the show feels that this site which is based around his show has a thread, one of he largest on here, called the 'Mega, Mega Anti-Fez' thread?

LMAO.

But then the mods of this place run around telling people to stop bashing Fez.

It's just pure comedy. It's funnier than most of the shows these days.

You have no idea what you're talking about. This thread was created as a dumping ground for all of the worthless threads started by trolls who sign up just to bash Fez. Read the first fucking post!

[pillsaregood]

You have no idea what you're talking about. This thread was created as a dumping ground for all of the worthless threads started by trolls who sign up just to bash Fez. Read the first fucking post!

Just delete the threads.

I am sure he's elated that you had to create a special section to handle all of the hate that the fans have for him, lol.

He's got to be wondering why this thread even exists if you really are a fan of the show.

LMAO.

What other fan sites have this going on? ZERO.

:laugh:

[PapaBear]

Just delete the threads.

I am sure he's elated that you had to create a special section to handle all of the hate that the fans have for him, lol.

He's got to be wondering why this thread even exists if you really are a fan of the show.

LMAO.

What other fan sites have this going on? ZERO.

:laugh:
Go join one of them in your free time. Don't let the login page hit your ass on the way out.

[Sue_Bender]

Go join one of them in your free time. Don't let the login page hit your ass on the way out.

Damn!

Well done, PB.

However, if the login page hits your ass on the way out...

you might be doing it wrong. :tongue:

[PapaBear]

Damn!

Well done, PB.

However, if the login page hits your ass on the way out...

you might be doing it wrong. :tongue:
There's no logout page. It's the best I could do.

[helterskeletor]

I wonder how the host of the show feels that this site which is based around his show has a thread, one of he largest on here, called the 'Mega, Mega Anti-Fez' thread?

LMAO.

But then the mods of this place run around telling people to stop bashing Fez.

It's just pure comedy. It's funnier than most of the shows these days.

Fez won't even visit Ron in the hospital. I'm sure he's blissfully unaware of this thread as he continues cashing undeserved checks.

[Dudeman]

To those who get really angry when Fez cries and Ron makes fun of him.... did you also get really angry at Nikolai Volkov and the Iron Sheik? did you cheer really loud for the Hulk so he could get back on his feet even though the other guy was punching him?

[helterskeletor]

thaaat's right. this is all a bit and Ron and Fez are the best actors in America

[Meataball23]

To those who get really angry when Fez cries and Ron makes fun of him.... did you also get really angry at Nikolai Volkov and the Iron Sheik? did you cheer really loud for the Hulk so he could get back on his feet even though the other guy was punching him?

thaaat's right. this is all a bit and Ron and Fez are the best actors in America

I kinda believe you both...which is amazing.

[spainlinx0]

Let's stop acting like this isn't mostly shoot. They are NOT great actors. You can tell when they record bits how obviously they aren't good actors. Dave getting fired (Midnight Rider era) was OBVIOUSLY a bit from day one, and I can't believe people couldn't see it with all of Ron's "wink wink, nudge nudge" way of talking about it.

However I will say that the hospital stuff is the only time I have been like "that cannot be a shoot. Fez really didn't visit?" Yet, I am now believing it. I don't think Ron expected him to show, but I do think, despite his insistence, that it does bother him on some level how little of a friend Fez really is to him.

I thought it was telling that Fez listed one of his reasons for not going as, "I didn't want to wake you up, because that would make ME feel like the worst person." Always about him.

[spoon]

You have no idea what you're talking about. This thread was created as a dumping ground for all of the worthless threads started by trolls who sign up just to bash Fez. Read the first fucking post!

This, PB is the king of mods...with hemorrhoids. He may not like all my posts, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis.

[spoon]

Fezzie isn't himself just yet, nobody is saying he is or ever will be. However, it's easy to dump on people when down and ride the alpha male or top dog like Ronnie bc you wish you were him (like a outsider rooting for the yanks). To me it's sad that people are this way, and I for one hope Fezzie gets a grip soon and comes back strong. However, I won't dump the guy bc he's in a tough spot, especially with the mental issues and his partner simply shitting on him daily in a passive aggressive manner. Just cut to the chase and I'll respect everyone more, but this systematic breakdown of Fez is grueling to say the least, and Fez is only the end result.

[PapaBear]

This, PB is the king of mods...with hemorrhoids. He may not like all my posts, but when he does, he prefers Dos Equis.
Pshaw! It's Tecate for me.

[spoon]

Pshaw! It's Tecate for me.

To bad you'll be buying that case yourself mister bear! Labatts coming again early 2011 to NJ baby! :devil2:

[jimmyolsenblues]

Is it possible that Fez visited ron every day and its just a bit that he didn't come?

[TjM]

Truth hurts.

Fez blew it when he would not give up some money to keep Dave.

Ron was willing to do so, but Fez said no.

:lol::lol::lol:

[spoon]

:lol::lol::lol:

agreed

[Meataball23]

Fezzie isn't himself just yet, nobody is saying he is or ever will be. However, it's easy to dump on people when down and ride the alpha male or top dog like Ronnie bc you wish you were him (like a outsider rooting for the yanks). To me it's sad that people are this way, and I for one hope Fezzie gets a grip soon and comes back strong. However, I won't dump the guy bc he's in a tough spot, especially with the mental issues and his partner simply shitting on him daily in a passive aggressive manner. Just cut to the chase and I'll respect everyone more, but this systematic breakdown of Fez is grueling to say the least, and Fez is only the end result.

Isnt this an anti-Fez thread? Why are you trying to defend him like this? Wouldnt this post be better in the pro-Fez thread?

[JimBeam]

Is it possible that Fez visited ron every day and its just a bit that he didn't come?

I think there may be some truth to this.

I haven't yet caught up on the shows from right when it happened so i don't know the context of the Fez not coming to see Ron stuff but it does seem peculiar that a guy that writes an email to another guy telling him how much he appreciates him wouldn't go visit that guy in the hospital.

Isnt this an anti-Fez thread? Why are you trying to defend him like this? Wouldnt this post be better in the pro-Fez thread?

I think there's more than enough room in the thread to do both.

I've actually loved Fez in the last few weeks.

Seems like he's getting some pizzaz back specifically by mocking himself when callers try and break his balls and not crying.

[Serpico1103]

I know it is all a bit, that is why I hate Fez and not Todd.
Hearing Fez in the replay justifying his criticism of ESD by saying that he didn't ask for an hour show...WTF! You have 4 hours everyday. Remember. The R&F show. What a douche. The phones were expectantly down and ESD still did a decent show.
Fez can't do a show when someone stares at him in the elevator before the show. He could easily have said, ESD has greater potential than that, I hope he does better next time when everything is working. Instead, he was just an angry confused 3rd mic.

When you reach the point that you realize you are insane (voluntary admission to asylum), stop having strong opinions. They are wrong.

[epo]

I wonder how the host of the show feels that this site which is based around his show has a thread, one of he largest on here, called the 'Mega, Mega Anti-Fez' thread?

LMAO.

But then the mods of this place run around telling people to stop bashing Fez.

It's just pure comedy. It's funnier than most of the shows these days.

This thread really isn't that large.

[chaza]

I'm sorry, but every word Fez says makes me mad that Dave is not on the show. I met Fez after daves wedding and he was a nice guy, but he has been terrible for years and years. Fez just really needs to retire to some asian country and fuck young boys until he dies of a heart attack.

[spoon]

I'm sorry, but every word Fez says makes me mad that Dave is not on the show. I met Fez after daves wedding and he was a nice guy, but he has been terrible for years and years. Fez just really needs to retire to some asian country and fuck young boys until he dies of a heart attack.

Yes, by all means keep him away from all the white boys...:huh:

WTF does that even mean?

Is it safe to say this is where people come to post for the first time in 5 years or start/hide behind new names and post as worse than the average call on the show these days?

[chaza]

Yes, by all means keep him away from all the white boys...:huh:

WTF does that even mean?

Is it safe to say this is where people come to post for the first time in 5 years or start/hide behind new names and post as worse than the average call on the show these days?

Why would you defend Fez in the anti Fez thread? I've been a listener for about a decade and Fez is in a horrible place and should be either stay in Four Winds for a long ass time or be replaced.

[spoon]

stop, he has some social anxieties and is obviously just not happy/comfortable with Ron and the show right now

saying he NEEDS Four Winds for a long ass time bc he isn't what he used to be is simply ridiculous

and when people say some fucked up shit I'll respond and keep it on target for all your hateful needs

[chaza]

stop, he has some social anxieties and is obviously just not happy/comfortable with Ron and the show right now

saying he NEEDS Four Winds for a long ass time bc he isn't what he used to be is simply ridiculous

and when people say some fucked up shit I'll respond and keep it on target for all your hateful needs

Right now has been years, so he needs to make some sort of major change. Seeing a therapist hasn't helped, so he needs to look at other options. He is unwilling to do that so it makes me angry, as has his isolation on shitty Roosavelt Island.

[razorboy]

Right now has been years, so he needs to make some sort of major change. Seeing a therapist hasn't helped, so he needs to look at other options. He is unwilling to do that so it makes me angry, as has his isolation on shitty Roosavelt Island.

Are you qualified to diagnose him? Sure, Fezzie has issues. I don't think anybody on this mesage board is in any position to judge him, however.

[Fillmore Slim]

Are you qualified to diagnose him? Sure, Fezzie has issues. I don't think anybody on this mesage board is in any position to judge him, however.

It's a message board, that's what we do.

[sailor]

sneaky, indeed.

[JohnnyGangBang]

I've been listening for like 2 and a half years since I got XM, and I signed up to this board because of how awful it's gotten. But I read this thread first and I saw you ban people for talking shit on Fez. So I'll make my point constructive. In defense of the people that got banned, I understand where they are coming from. They clearly care about the show and want to try to voice their outrage about what they think is wrong with the show (ie Fez). But at the same time it's not like they're talking shit on Ron, or Dave, even though he's not there anymore. Meaning that they're still a fan of the show. If they hated both Ron AND Fez then they probably wouldn't be here. So even though they hate Fez they're still 50% a fan of the Ron & Fez show.

Personally I'm banging my head against a wall trying to figure out why Fez hasn't been let out of his contract with Sirius/XM. He literally hasn't changed in over a year. I listen to the show all the time, and it's gotten so repetitive I can kind of understand why Ron turns on Fez as often as he does. At first I thought they were beating up on Fez, but then the more I listened to what Fez had to say I started to stop giving a fuck about what gave this guy anxiety. It's like Enough already, I get it. You have panic attacks. What the fuck are you doing on radio? Come on, don't cry.

What did Opie and Anthony call it? A hole. Fez is a hole. I can hear him suck joy out of Ron. You listen to O&A and there's buildup, they banter back and forth and they play off of each other and one topic can start small and exaggerate to ridiculous proportions and it's hilarious. With R&F you can't get that. Because Ron is playing fucking wall-ball. Fez constantly deflates the humor. It's a shame too, because Ron is a hilarious man who if he wasn't on the radio would be a phenomenal stand-up talent. The sadness tears are the complete opposite of laughter. And I thin because of how vulnerable Fez portrays himself to everyone else, people cut him too much slack and forget that the Ron and Fez show is actually supposed to make you laugh. For a long time though it's like I'm listening to a man derail, and I'm only listening because he sounds like he may die soon.

[PapaBear]

But I read this thread first and I saw you ban people for talking shit on Fez.
People only get banned when all they do is bash Fez.

[sailor]

People only get banned when all they do is bash Fez.

yeah, almost no one gets banned. pillsaregood and some one-post who asked to be banned.

[JohnnyGangBang]

People only get banned when all they do is bash Fez.

I'll keep my posts rare then because fuck if I can't talk about anything else R&F related. Any other topic seems trivial to me. It's like talking about what show to watch on tv when the tv is broken.

I don't want to talk about what's coming on. I want to talk about why the damned tv doesn't work.

[PapaBear]

EDIT: You also get banned when you've already been banned before, and sign up under a new screen name. Seeya, Wolverstreets! :banning:

[Rawkus]

Geez, it finally felt like Ron really broke it down for fez the other day which has been building up for a while. The frustration he felt was palpable and i was relieved that he said the things he did, even though he was probubly holding back a LOT. Did it make an impact on fez at all? probubly not. I go back and forth from being really annoyed and tired of fez's constant crying to moments where i really feel bad for him then back to annoyed again. How long can this keep going on? something has to give here. One of the most annoying things i find is how fez cannot handle getting his balls busted by any one and any "slight" he thinks someone makes against him becomes "oh you're taking shots at me and i hate you now". Jesus stop it already.

My friend is going on a road trip and i want to introduce him to the show, i've been slowly sending him clips of ron's greatness off of youtube. I'm going to give him a couple shows or best of's from 07-08 with dave. How do you even explain to someone that this is still my favorite show but theres a lot of crying and nonsense on air that would scare aware new listeners.

[sailor]

i don't know. doesn't ron flip out like this before every vacation?

[spoon]

i don't know. doesn't ron flip out like this before every vacation?

Or whenever he goes into full alpha male mode when certain guests are in studio? Also, you can slowly see him growing tired of Pepper as he's been nitpicking his points more and more, along with getting on him for very little. It's a cycle and it just may reload again soon.

Then again, Fez going into complete turtle mode as every family vacation time gets near would get old quick if we were in Ron's position. Oh well, bottom line is these two simply aren't as close as Fez thinks/thought or Ron put out there.

[Meataball23]

I havent been able to listen since august but I find it amazing that these same conversations are going on. Fez's ability to be one half of a radio show is now nonexistent. I think anyone who has ever been a fan of this show roots for Fez's recovery, but seriously it bums me out that it seems like nothing has changed in the last 2/3 years.

[RENFIELD]

A HUGE decline in Fez came when they lost people Fez could feel superior to
and join the 'pile-on'.... (dave and earl)

Getting rid of them didn't get Fez more interested in the show...
it put Fez on the bottom !
it put him under pressure to perform and be he butt of the joke...

I feel bad for Fez...
but I feel worse for Ron...
he lost a friend and a partner...

Fez should find another line of work... a repititious, boring one that
might keep his mind occupied...
he has too much time to think...

and he missed the part where you give up your dreams
because that's just the way it is after a certain age...

Fez has some unrealistic impressions of what you're supposed
to get out of life... AND he thinks it's supposed to find YOU...

[PapaBear]

No one "got rid of" ESD or Earl.

[Dudeman]

but I feel worse for Ron...
he lost a friend and a partner....

wrong. having been listening to ron and fez since summer 2000, i feel Ron has changed as much, if not more than fez.

Back in the wnew shows, they did goofy stuff- kenny allen, joe poo, jan brady, iris, comedy pyramids. ron wants his "old" friend back? the "old" fez didn't sit around and talk about directors and other of ron's "too cool for the room" shit. no question fez has had his issues, but ron has changed the show. they are both kidding themselves if they think that getting the "old" fez back would make him fit into the way ron wants the show to be. (at the very least, ron should engage in conversation with fez on the basic stuff, like the news. but he doesn't even do that- he just leaves dead air and goes to a phone call, or he mocks fez for dropping a truth bomb. ron may not want to go back to the crazy stuff like in 2000, but at least he can talk with fez.)

[underdog]

the "old" fez didn't sit around and talk about directors and other of ron's "too cool for the room" shit.

I hate this "too cool for the room" shit. Just because Ron doesn't like Transformers doesn't make him "too cool for the room". Enjoying Coen Bros movies doesn't make someone "too cool for the room". Liking Martin Scorsese movies doesn't make someone "too cool for the room".

[Dudeman]

I hate this "too cool for the room" shit. Just because Ron doesn't like Transformers doesn't make him "too cool for the room". Enjoying Coen Bros movies doesn't make someone "too cool for the room". Liking Martin Scorsese movies doesn't make someone "too cool for the room".

fine, ignore that sentiment (even though you're taking it wrong.) it still doesn't change the basic idea that i was writing about- ron has changed along with fez, and the "old" fez and the "old" ron wouldn't fit in with ron's current version of the show.

[Rawkus]

I just wish that fez would do something ANYTHING. Call in with a suggestion? He's already done it all apparently(probably once or not at all). He thinks if he can find the right pill it will fix all his problems instead of doing anything. Don't have anything to talk about? how bout reading some books, listening to music or watching anything other than the dark knight? DO SOMETHING easy first. baby steps

[Rawkus]

The "old" fez didn't sit around and talk about directors and other of ron's "too cool for the room" shit.

I like ron's "too cool for the room" shit, i think they(not fez) have great discussions on movies, directors, music all of it. I don't want to sit around and listen to some boob that thinks two and a half men and a baby or whatever bullshit is great, i like being turned onto new things.

[Dudeman]

I like ron's "too cool for the room" shit, i think they(not fez) have great discussions on movies, directors, music all of it. I don't want to sit around and listen to some boob that thinks two and a half men and a baby or whatever bullshit is great, i like being turned onto new things.

that's not what i'm saying. I'm just saying that the show was different back when i first started listening (2000.) ron and fez are fooling themselves if they think that having the "old" fez back would solve the show's problems. ron and show have changed. have you ever heard "old" shows?? it wasn't, as you put it, "some boob that thinks two and a half men and a baby or whatever bullshit is great."

[Rawkus]

that's not what i'm saying. I'm just saying that the show was different back when i first started listening (2000.) ron and fez are fooling themselves if they think that having the "old" fez back would solve the show's problems. ron and show have changed. have you ever heard "old" shows?? it wasn't, as you put it, "some boob that thinks two and a half men and a baby or whatever bullshit is great."

oh no man i'm not saying at all. I'm really just talking about talk radio in general. I can't stand the local morning shows in philly, i think they're fucking dogshit. I've been listening for the past 3 years and in that time ron's turned me onto so many movies and music i would have never heard of before.

[Dudeman]

oh no man i'm not saying at all. I'm really just talking about talk radio in general. I can't stand the local morning shows in philly, i think they're fucking dogshit. I've been listening for the past 3 years and in that time ron's turned me onto so many movies and music i would have never heard of before.

that's fine. and the old ron and fez show always made fun of the morning zoo shows; they would always mock the forced laughing on those shows. if anything, now that hicks and dave laugh at everything ron says, it sometimes gets that aspect of morning zoo radio on r&f.

but i digress- my original point is still just that ron has also changed, and it is unfair of him to expect fez to change just like him. the old fez, that both ron and fez want back, never would have wanted to talk about directors and such. when ron is talking about that stuff, don't expect fez to join in, and don't hold it against him when he doesn't. but when fez is talking about other stuff, even just the news, ron should be willing to interact with fez.

[underdog]

fine, ignore that sentiment (even though you're taking it wrong.) it still doesn't change the basic idea that i was writing about- ron has changed along with fez, and the "old" fez and the "old" ron wouldn't fit in with ron's current version of the show.

I agree with the other part. He's definitely changed.

[paulisded]

I hate this "too cool for the room" shit. Just because Ron doesn't like Transformers doesn't make him "too cool for the room". Enjoying Coen Bros movies doesn't make someone "too cool for the room". Liking Martin Scorsese movies doesn't make someone "too cool for the room".

Thank you for saying what needs to be said. There's nothing I hate more than the term "too cool for the room".

[Meataball23]

A HUGE decline in Fez came when they lost people Fez could feel superior to
and join the 'pile-on'.... (dave and earl)

Getting rid of them didn't get Fez more interested in the show...
it put Fez on the bottom !
it put him under pressure to perform and be he butt of the joke...

I feel bad for Fez...
but I feel worse for Ron...
he lost a friend and a partner...

Fez should find another line of work... a repititious, boring one that
might keep his mind occupied...
he has too much time to think...

and he missed the part where you give up your dreams
because that's just the way it is after a certain age...

Fez has some unrealistic impressions of what you're supposed
to get out of life... AND he thinks it's supposed to find YOU...

Well said

[hurlmon]

fine, ignore that sentiment (even though you're taking it wrong.) it still doesn't change the basic idea that i was writing about- ron has changed along with fez, and the "old" fez and the "old" ron wouldn't fit in with ron's current version of the show.

Yes Ron changed because his roll on the show changed. The old Fez steered the show bringing up the topics, and Ron would discuss and comment.

Now Ron brings up the topics so they are his interests and such.

Now I'm not saying he hasn't changed cause everyone does but i think most of his changes were due to a roll changes caused by Fez's issues

[Fugitive]

They both sounded incredibly worn out on the end of year shows. Keep in mind that Ron was also physically ill.

Have they signed a new contract?

[spoon]

wrong. having been listening to ron and fez since summer 2000, i feel Ron has changed as much, if not more than fez.

Back in the wnew shows, they did goofy stuff- kenny allen, joe poo, jan brady, iris, comedy pyramids. ron wants his "old" friend back? the "old" fez didn't sit around and talk about directors and other of ron's "too cool for the room" shit. no question fez has had his issues, but ron has changed the show. they are both kidding themselves if they think that getting the "old" fez back would make him fit into the way ron wants the show to be. (at the very least, ron should engage in conversation with fez on the basic stuff, like the news. but he doesn't even do that- he just leaves dead air and goes to a phone call, or he mocks fez for dropping a truth bomb. ron may not want to go back to the crazy stuff like in 2000, but at least he can talk with fez.)

i agree

[Fugitive]

Agree Ron has changed up a bit but don't think Fez is the only reason.

Consider all the Sirius changes that have been forced down Ron's throat. Yeah, some of the guests included. The old DC show took place in a totally free-wheeling environment, or as free-wheeling as broadcast can get. It ain't like that no more--too many tie-ins, trade-offs, and quid pro quo "you scratch my back" stuff going on behind the scenes. I can smell it.

It's pretty much the same as when Letterman went from the late-night show to the 11:30 slot--that's pretty much what happened when they moved out of the XM studios to the Sirius studios. And that coincides with the final stages of Fez's "locking up" as well...

[Dogfather]

I can understand Ron's frustration with Fez. The show starts and you have to guess if Fez is in the studio and he appears when Ron ask him whats wrong today typically being panic in the subway.

Then its what's on your mind big cat? gay rights, new study on a mental illness, fast food, Riddler then maybe some football. Then nothing from fez for an hour or so until Ron tries to interact with him.

I liked the Ron and Dave show better then this sad comedy. At least Pepper tries to be on the air but since Sirius is as cheap as Fez, he has to take care of the show's whole production alone.

Also the stupid "secret". Doesn't Fez realize that everyone knows what his "secret" is.

I hope that Ron will finally out Fez or get him bakerack for a while. This might help more than petting poor Fezzy on the head.:furious:

[Fugitive]

Since it's the Ron and Fez show, what do you think would happen if Ron did the first two hours and then announced that Fez's half of the show was starting and just shut up--refusing to talk?

[spoon]

I think it would be as stupid as this thread.

For fucks sake.

[IamFogHat]

I think it would be as stupid as this thread.

For fucks sake.

Yeah can we merge this into the haters thread?

[disneyspy]

Yeah can we merge this into the haters thread?

why merge? just delete the bitch

[Furtherman]

Why do we need white coats and bunson burners?

[spoon]

Why do we need white coats and bunson burners?

DON'T FORGET THE GOGGLES!

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[Crispy123]

I hope that Ron will finally out Fez or get him bakerack for a while. This might help more than petting poor Fezzy on the head.:furious:


I hope Ron will get Fez Bacharach too...


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[Dogfather]

If Ron can get him to enjoy some Bacharach it will be a step in the right direction.

[PapaBear]

Yeah can we merge this into the haters thread?
If anything, I'm merging it because it's not worth an entire thread. Not to mention, it meets the criteria for being moved to this specific thread.

[jennysmurf]

If anything, I'm merging it because it's not worth an entire thread. Not to mention, it meets the criteria for being moved to this specific thread.

You're cute when you're power-mad.:wub:

[StanUpshaw]

Foggy says jump, you say how high

[epo]

You're cute when you're power-mad.:wub:

Huh?

[PapaBear]

Foggy says jump, you say how high
I almost didn't do it, just because he's the one who brought it up.

[spoon]

I almost didn't do it, just because he's the one who brought it up.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MERGE THIS!?

:wink:

[PapaBear]

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[IamFogHat]

Foggy says jump, you say how high

I'm a powerful man.

[WhatsInTheBoxx]

Who knew Fez could get so mad about crab cakes! It cracKs me up thinking of Wottley getting all angered at the TV about the damned cakes...

That is one thing that Fez can still pull off - his observations and stuff. He gets into the uncomfy/The Office (Uk)/awkward moments that bring a realism to them. Anyway, the show Rox. Fuck the haters with fuckstixx and le'ts get the Virus to come to RnF one of these days! Or Tank C... :devil2:

[jlehane3]

look like Tim Roth? I just bought the Invincible ,Tim Roth movie.Fez loves movies and wouldn't shut up about them before.It was his strong hand.The Paul O bits with the movies I liked a lot.They were some magic phone-ins.Now some of the callers are just embarrassing and crashy.If HTG can make for a smoother show for Ron,then she fills Earl's shoes for a relaxed atmosphere.I know Ron was way better off 2 mondays ago with her on than the following day without her.This I S-W-E-A-R .... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/jlehane3/th_MarsUncensoredBigNeg32P199604537RADAR00P2285L23 4567C1CropFacesMediumCovered.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/jlehane3/?action=view&current=MarsUncensoredBigNeg32P199604537RADAR00P22 85L234567C1CropFacesMediumCovered.jpg)

[spoon]

look like Tim Roth? I just bought the Invincible ,Tim Roth movie.Fez loves movies and wouldn't shut up about them before.It was his strong hand.The Paul O bits with the movies I liked a lot.They were some magic phone-ins.Now some of the callers are just embarrassing and crashy.If HTG can make for a smoother show for Ron,then she fills Earl's shoes for a relaxed atmosphere.I know Ron was way better off 2 mondays ago with her on than the following day without her.This I S-W-E-A-R .... http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/jlehane3/th_MarsUncensoredBigNeg32P199604537RADAR00P2285L23 4567C1CropFacesMediumCovered.jpg (http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a221/jlehane3/?action=view&current=MarsUncensoredBigNeg32P199604537RADAR00P22 85L234567C1CropFacesMediumCovered.jpg)

Yah one is relaxed the other gets fucking strung out bc of it. I wonder why?

[balancedchaos]

I imagine Fez smelling like my aunt, and having as much to say as she does. Awful.

Whenever they start talking to Fez about his issues, I fast forward 10 minutes in the show. There's no fucking entertainment to be had there.

I'd stopped listening for the longest time after Dave left. I'm back, but...it's mainly because there's nothing much good out there. WTF is good, but it's short. I need a long-form show to replace it.

Meh. Whatever.

Fuck Fez and his problems. I'm conscious of the fact that I sound like a troll right now...just know that I liked R&F much, much more than O&A for the longest, and I still think when R&F works it's the better show. It's just working less and less.

Fuck it.

[sailor]

7 months is the longest time?

[midwestjeff]

7 months is the longest time?

It's the Central Time Zone.

Time perception is completely different here.

You wouldn't understand.

[dommer]

I imagine Fez smelling like my aunt, and having as much to say as she does. Awful.

Whenever they start talking to Fez about his issues, I fast forward 10 minutes in the show. There's no fucking entertainment to be had there.

I'd stopped listening for the longest time after Dave left. I'm back, but...it's mainly because there's nothing much good out there. WTF is good, but it's short. I need a long-form show to replace it.

Meh. Whatever.

Fuck Fez and his problems. I'm conscious of the fact that I sound like a troll right now...just know that I liked R&F much, much more than O&A for the longest, and I still think when R&F works it's the better show. It's just working less and less.

Fuck it.

You just said everything I feel.

[10_piece_bucket]

I'm an Audible listener, it would be great to limit Fez's bits to certain chapters each day, then I could skip over them.

I wouldn't be mad that I'm getting half the show, I'd even be willing to pay more not to hear him.

Awful. How can he get away with being so bad for so long?

[balancedchaos]

Given that Ron and Fez got me through some of the darkest periods of my life in 2005 & 2006, and I was a faithful everyday listener, yes. The longest time.

[TjM]

Given that Ron and Fez got me through some of the darkest periods of my life in 2005 & 2006, and I was a faithful everyday listener, yes. The longest time.

So they got you through bad times but now that Fez is having a real bad time fuck him. Some loyalty

[spoon]

So they got you through bad times but now that Fez is having a real bad time fuck him. Some loyalty

It's the way of the world these days. Fuck you, it's about me everywhere, all day. Fucking pathetic.

[balancedchaos]

I've been pulling for Fez for YEARS. Do you realize we're YEARS into this? I just can't listen to someone who is where I was but doesn't make any progress. It hurts me. So think what you want. It's impossible to listen to for me. Think what you want. If you think that's pathetic, then so be it, judgmental internet person. I'm sorry I let you down...I've been trying to gain your approval for years, and apparently I've failed.

[PapaBear]

I'm sorry I let you down...I've been trying to gain your approval for years, and apparently I've failed.
~spoonstalker~

[balancedchaos]

Lol

[spoon]

He could mean TjM too? :unsure:

[dommer]

It's the way of the world these days. Fuck you, it's about me everywhere, all day. Fucking pathetic.

Fez isn't his pal. He's an entertainer. Well, that's what he collects a check for. He hasn't entertained anyone in this millenium. Do you criticize people for not making scones for their waiters? Do you criticize people for not fixing their plumber's leaky toilet? Your point is beyond stupid.

[Melk]

Fez isn't his pal. He's an entertainer. Well, that's what he collects a check for. He hasn't entertained anyone in this millenium. Do you criticize people for not making scones for their waiters? Do you criticize people for not fixing their plumber's leaky toilet? Your point is beyond stupid.
Fez has brought content to the show that has entertained me not only this millennium, not only this year, but also this week. I'll agree that he has issues and that he probably needs to go into more extensive counseling, but when he doesn't simply fall back on the whole "locking up" and not talking thing, his content is often interesting.

Complain all you want, but save the hyperbole for creative writing class. Your making food for your waiter example is simply stupid. Waiters bring food, they don't make it. Fez is an radio show host and producer. He is interested in bringing up content on the air that interests him. At this point, that content includes: his mental health, things that irritate him, people that irritate him, annoying things women celebrities do that irritate him, bad things people do toward homosexuals, things that fall into the category of challenging Fez's understanding of etiquette or ethics, and medical studies from vague sources that challenge his expectations. I don't necessarily see these topics as a bad thing, but Ron does.

If I were Ron and was so irritated by the content that Fez brings to the show, I would try to get him to make a bet (since Fez almost always loses bets) where he has to do some of the things he complains about. There was no reason Fez shouldn't have been made to watch "The Blind Side" or to do a live remote from a bar in Chelsea or take the Roosevelt Island Tram on the air or do the show from the rickety elevator in the Sirius/XM building or eat a new food for 30 days or listen to a CD every day for 30 days. There are ways to make this problem work without making Fez blurt his secret or do a shift with the Out Queue guys. There HAS to be a way.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Fez has brought content to the show that has entertained me not only this millennium, not only this year, but also this week. I'll agree that he has issues and that he probably needs to go into more extensive counseling, but when he doesn't simply fall back on the whole "locking up" and not talking thing, his content is often interesting.

Complain all you want, but save the hyperbole for creative writing class. Your making food for your waiter example is simply stupid. Waiters bring food, they don't make it. Fez is an radio show host and producer. He is interested in bringing up content on the air that interests him. At this point, that content includes: his mental health, things that irritate him, people that irritate him, annoying things women celebrities do that irritate him, bad things people do toward homosexuals, things that fall into the category of challenging Fez's understanding of etiquette or ethics, and medical studies from vague sources that challenge his expectations. I don't necessarily see these topics as a bad thing, but Ron does.

If I were Ron and was so irritated by the content that Fez brings to the show, I would try to get him to make a bet (since Fez almost always loses bets) where he has to do some of the things he complains about. There was no reason Fez shouldn't have been made to watch "The Blind Side" or to do a live remote from a bar in Chelsea or take the Roosevelt Island Tram on the air or do the show from the rickety elevator in the Sirius/XM building or eat a new food for 30 days or listen to a CD every day for 30 days. There are ways to make this problem work without making Fez blurt his secret or do a shift with the Out Queue guys. There HAS to be a way.

I know it's only January 9th, but I'm going on record as saying this is post of the year.

[hanso]

Love this fly paper thread. Well done RFN. Keep up the good work.



“Analyzing humor is like dissecting a frog. Few people are interested and the frog dies of it.” –E. B. White

[spoon]

Fez isn't his pal. He's an entertainer. Well, that's what he collects a check for. He hasn't entertained anyone in this millenium. Do you criticize people for not making scones for their waiters? Do you criticize people for not fixing their plumber's leaky toilet? Your point is beyond stupid.

That may very well be the most idiotic analogy I've ever read. You act as if I said for the guy to get on the fucking radio and entertain Fez through the speaker. I made a general point that people are selfish and only give a fuck about themselves and it holds.

[spoon]

I know it's only January 9th, but I'm going on record as saying this is post of the year.

I concur on it being a good post, but of the year? Already? I can't go there bc I don't want Melk to get all uppity! :wink:

[Fugitive]

I get it that some of you are fed up with Fez. But Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day.

Again, Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day. All I'm saying is, Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day.

Nah, that's not what I'm saying...It's just...it's just....Earl irritated me...

[chaza]

I get it that some of you are fed up with Fez. But Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day.

Again, Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day. All I'm saying is, Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day.

Nah, that's not what I'm saying...It's just...it's just....Earl irritated me...

I hated Earl, but Fez makes me furious on the reg. Anytime he gets passionate about some stupid shit, I really wish he would just leave the show. And I've been listening since 2000 or even before.

[Crispy123]

I get it that some of you are fed up with Fez. But Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day.

Again, Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day. All I'm saying is, Earl irritated me much more on a daily basis than Fez on his worst day.

Nah, that's not what I'm saying...It's just...it's just....Earl irritated me...

You are a fucking rascist.

[Dudeman]

He is interested in bringing up content on the air that interests him. At this point, that content includes: his mental health, things that irritate him, people that irritate him, annoying things women celebrities do that irritate him, bad things people do toward homosexuals, things that fall into the category of challenging Fez's understanding of etiquette or ethics, and medical studies from vague sources that challenge his expectations. I don't necessarily see these topics as a bad thing, but Ron does.


Yep. And the reality is that in the past (just look at the fastest hour in radio) they did that alot on the show. The only difference now is that Ron doesn't want to interact with Fez (although after the new years he's getting a little better.)

[Melk]

Yep. And the reality is that in the past (just look at the fastest hour in radio) they did that alot on the show. The only difference now is that Ron doesn't want to interact with Fez (although after the new years he's getting a little better.)
I think that is what needs to be done. Bite the bullet on the medical studies, bullying talk, and actresses Fez hates and things will eventually balance themselves out.

[disneyspy]

why do people feel the need to point out the negatives when there so much of the show worth pointing out the positives?

[Melk]

why do people feel the need to point out the negatives when there so much of the show worth pointing out the positives?
You know what, DisneySpy? You are right.

[CountryBob]

Nothing but positivity from me for now on!

[Recyclerz]

Nothing but positivity from me for now on!

Wow! Obama's Tuscon speech really worked!

[Crispy123]

why do people feel the need to point out the negatives when there so much of the show worth pointing out the positives?

Hey you can stay the hell out of this thread with your BS positivity buddy!

[fezident]

I would never say I'm "anti fez".
I do, however, wish that there was SOME kind of accountability for his situation, and the effect it has on the whole show.

He, at the very least, needs to call in sick on days when he KNOWS he's gonna be on lockdown. And believe me.... he DOES know. This would give Ron and/or Pep at little more lead time to find somebody to saddle up to the mic. (example: Earl, Dave, a contest, a bit, etc...)
Fez also really should have a "go to" list of topics he'd like to discuss. Evergreen stuff. There should be a whiteboard in there with a top ten list of things that Fez would wanna talk about, that he can look up at and immediately get ideas from. (example: "what is the origin of certain familiar phrases & sayings?", "if I could recast any role in any movie, it would be _____.", "if I could change one thing in history, what would I change?" etc....)
These topics should be brought up everytime opens his mouth to say "umm... just feelin' a little panic." and "ummm... I don't have anything."

The way it is now, Fez has no motivation to make even one change to his current role on the show.

To be quite honest, I don't truly believe there's anything wrong with Fez.
I believe that his problems aren't real.

[underdog]

To be quite honest, I don't truly believe there's anything wrong with Fez.
I believe that his problems aren't real.

His crying sounds so fake sometimes, especially when he's fine, and then Ronnie asks, "what's wrong buddy," and he responds with the "locking up" comment.

[spoon]

why do people feel the need to point out the negatives when there so much of the show worth pointing out the positives?

WOW someone really is a vagina. Too bad you can't fuck yourself and end that old man grey ball drought!

slurp SLURP SLURP!

[Tenbatsuzen]

OK, here's something legit.

Fez today brought up one of his non-sequitur news bits about Conan publicizing a call of support he got from Letterman, and he "didn't understand it".

I called in, and started talking about this book, which is an awesome read:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511UX%2BLzf7L._SS500_.jpg

This was intended to try and get Fez involved.

Ronnie during the call paused, and said "uh" a few times - obviously trying to throw it to Fez - and FEZ DIDN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD.

So Fez, if the point of your news bits are trying to get people to call in and interact, it might actually help if you'd interact with the callers who call in.

[underdog]

OK, here's something legit.

Fez today brought up one of his non-sequitur news bits about Conan publicizing a call of support he got from Letterman, and he "didn't understand it".

I called in, and started talking about this book, which is an awesome read:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511UX%2BLzf7L._SS500_.jpg

This was intended to try and get Fez involved.

Ronnie during the call paused, and said "uh" a few times - obviously trying to throw it to Fez - and FEZ DIDN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD.

So Fez, if the point of your news bits are trying to get people to call in and interact, it might actually help if you'd interact with the callers who call in.

Just because someone doesn't want to interact with you doesn't mean there is something wrong with them.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Just because someone doesn't want to interact with you doesn't mean there is something wrong with them.

On a social level? Fine.

He's doing a show.

[spoon]

Just because someone doesn't want to interact with you doesn't mean there is something wrong with them.

I'm pretty sure it's a sign all is ok in the world.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Ron lets fez get away with it.
Ron says he doesn't like fez not talking.
But ron won't fire fez..or break up the team.
So we are stuck with Fez.
And I was a huge fez fan...he has always been nice to me in public appearances.
But how many days can a radio host cry and get paid millions and ron is okay with that enough to continue the partnership? Forever I guess is the real answer or till fez <you know>

[Rawkus]

this mark zito/fez fight is so aggravating to me. It reminds me a lot of the dave/fez fight and how once you get on fez's bad side somehow either intentionally or inadvertantly he goes out of his way to remind everyone how much he hates them. Something about the way he handles it is just so grating to listen to. I don't give two shits about zito but if fez doesn't have someone to be annoyed at he's going to start crying so i guess having zito to hate on is a good thing?

[underdog]

Fez actually made Mark Zito likable.

[sailor]

Fez actually made Mark Zito likable.

crazy talk.

[Tenbatsuzen]

this mark zito/fez fight is so aggravating to me. It reminds me a lot of the dave/fez fight and how once you get on fez's bad side somehow either intentionally or inadvertantly he goes out of his way to remind everyone how much he hates them. Something about the way he handles it is just so grating to listen to. I don't give two shits about zito but if fez doesn't have someone to be annoyed at he's going to start crying so i guess having zito to hate on is a good thing?

Fez likes to use the term "everyone hates you". He said it about Jeff, he said it about me, he says it about Zito. It's weasel words that is designed to make himself feel better while putting someone else down.

[underdog]

Isn't Fez bullying Mark Zito?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Isn't Fez bullying Mark Zito?

Fez is too passive aggressive to bully unless he's really pushed.

[hanso]

OK, here's something legit.

Fez today brought up one of his non-sequitur news bits about Conan publicizing a call of support he got from Letterman, and he "didn't understand it".

I called in, and started talking about this book, which is an awesome read:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511UX%2BLzf7L._SS500_.jpg

This was intended to try and get Fez involved.

Ronnie during the call paused, and said "uh" a few times - obviously trying to throw it to Fez - and FEZ DIDN'T SAY A SINGLE WORD.

So Fez, if the point of your news bits are trying to get people to call in and interact, it might actually help if you'd interact with the callers who call in.

The premises was good.

However you called in over a book on a topic that Fez didn't understand.

[underdog]

The premises was good.

However you called in over a book on a topic that Fez didn't understand.

You also suggested a book. To Fez.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The premises was good.

However you called in over a book on a topic that Fez didn't understand.

My biggest mistake in the call was thinking that Fez would read something without pictures.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You also suggested a book. To Fez.

And consider this a Spoon-style response that I didn't see this post before I responded to Hanso.

[hanso]

You also suggested a book. To Fez.

Yes I did come to think of it. That was long ago in a thread on books he might like.

My biggest mistake in the call was thinking that Fez would read something without pictures.

Lol, I don't know if he reads books are not. UD brought up a book thread for Fez on here.

The only thing he might have said is TY I might have a look at the book.

I would like more on the lines of what you bought up. If Fez is on a roll on something folks could call about it. And he might open up / expand on things.

[underdog]

Yes I did come to think of it. That was long ago in a thread on books he might like.

That was actually directed at Matty, because he did the same thing.

[hanso]

That was actually directed at Matty, because he did the same thing.

Oh, ok but it turned out to be real. And maybe it was the wrong book looking back on it now.

[spoon]

Fez likes to use the term "everyone hates you". He said it about Jeff, he said it about me, he says it about Zito. It's weasel words that is designed to make himself feel better while putting someone else down.

With the exception of Jeff, he's right. Consider that a "spoon-style response" dickface.

[Tenbatsuzen]

With the exception of Jeff, he's right. Consider that a "spoon-style response" dickface.

So you know that EVERYONE hates me. Because you are so dialed in to the social scene and you're King Popular. Got it, thanks man.

[spoon]

ur welcome asslick

[StanUpshaw]

With Valentine's Day is coming up, has Fez been shilling for VajamaGram lately?

[Dan 'Hampton]

Am I the only one who's becoming immune to the term "panic"? I know people suffer from it but when you hear the term so much it loses all it's power and eventually just elicits an "oh jesus".

[underdog]

Am I the only one who's becoming immune to the term "panic"? I know people suffer from it but when you hear the term so much it loses all it's power and eventually just elicits an "oh jesus".

Locking up has lost all meaning, as well.

[Dan 'Hampton]

It makes it sound like you have no control over it and that it isnt all really just in your head.

[sailor]

It makes it sound like you have no control over it and that it isnt all really just in your head.

and lung cancer is only in your lungs. don't make it not real.

[IamFogHat]

On a non comedic note, I really do feel bad for Fez. I've been dealing with similar shit as far as anxiety and panic attacks and I got on some meds recently that literally made everything better. So the fact that he's tried a million different scripts and therapists and nothings working is really disheartening. Prescription drugs aren't a magic button, you need to go to therapy and really work hard but with Fez it seems like literally nothing has worked with his chemistry, which is suspect btw so I just don't know what to think with him.

[fezident]

Prescription drugs aren't a magic button, you need to go to therapy and really work hard .

TRUTH.
I honestly DON'T think that Fez has used a million meds. Using a "quarter stick" of Xanax every once in a blue moon is a mistake. "Trying Paxil" is a mistake. "I had a prescription for Klonopin" isn't the same as religiously TAKING Klonopin.
Very often, medications are supposed to be taken for a long time. Weeks... months... years... forever... etc. Fez, on the other hand, takes a nibble off the corner of ONE pill and expects to see results.

Fez doesn't believe in doing actual WORK. In his own words, he believes in WISHES.
Every once in a while, he'll cry into the microphone (to a caller that's badgering him) and say "You think I want to be this way?! You think I don't wish I was normal....."

That isn't enough Fez.
You have to do the work.

Look at it this way. Let's pretend that we were talking about Fezzie's abs instead of his mental state. Let's pretend that it was his PHYSICAL state that was bothering him... and that he was trying to "work on" his abs.
Would he have a six pack? Nope.
There's more to getting a six pack then "talking to somebody", or "reading about it", or "trying to do a sit-up once", or "I'll bring that up to my trainer", or..... or...... etc.
YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO DO THE WORK.
Proper diet. (not starvatation)
Proper sleep.
Proper exercises in the proper sequence.
Sacrifice.
Pain.
Dedication.
Supplementation.
REPEAT.
and, maybe, in 16 months... you'll look like an Olympian.


Mental health is no different.

[fezident]

and lung cancer is only in your lungs. don't make it not real.

The following statement might appear to be illogical but, .... here goes.

Fez's problems are not real, but... Fez is NOT making up his problems.

Meaning: Fez's problems are largely in his head. They are illogical. And they are not "real". However... they are real to HIM, and THAT is what needs to be addressed.



As I mentioned once before: A anorexic girl who weighs 90 pounds will look in the mirror and see a fat girl. She sees something that isn't there. The fat simply isn't real. It isn't there. But... it's real TO HER. The seed of the problem lies not in her metabolism but, in her mental state.

Fezzie's fear of sunsets, or elevators, or of admitting he's gay, or of eating random meals, or of being alone in the studio with the mics on, or his inability to comprehend lyrics & music, or his fear of being in a relationship, or ... or ... or ... etc
These problems are not "real". They are not reality based. However.. they are real TO HIM.
They have nothing in common with cancerous tumors growing inside someone's lungs.

[StanUpshaw]

Are dysfunctions in brain chemistry real or "real"?

[BustahMyTool]

I don't know, man. You can hate on Fez all you want but I got to hand it to the guy. I locked him in a bus and he never cried. Sure, he tried to get me fired but he did it like a man.

[TEKOA]

at least nobody cut his head off with knife :glurps:

[underdog]

I enjoyed Ron trashing Fez for doing the exact same bit again.

[spoon]

The following statement might appear to be illogical but, .... here goes.

Fez's problems are not real, but... Fez is NOT making up his problems.

Meaning: Fez's problems are largely in his head. They are illogical. And they are not "real". However... they are real to HIM, and THAT is what needs to be addressed.



As I mentioned once before: A anorexic girl who weighs 90 pounds will look in the mirror and see a fat girl. She sees something that isn't there. The fat simply isn't real. It isn't there. But... it's real TO HER. The seed of the problem lies not in her metabolism but, in her mental state.

Fezzie's fear of sunsets, or elevators, or of admitting he's gay, or of eating random meals, or of being alone in the studio with the mics on, or his inability to comprehend lyrics & music, or his fear of being in a relationship, or ... or ... or ... etc
These problems are not "real". They are not reality based. However.. they are real TO HIM.
They have nothing in common with cancerous tumors growing inside someone's lungs.

hence why what he's suffering from is called a MENTAL disorder

[spoon]

and lung cancer is only in your lungs. don't make it not real.

exactly

[Philly Franko]

TRUTH.
I honestly DON'T think that Fez has used a million meds. Using a "quarter stick" of Xanax every once in a blue moon is a mistake. "Trying Paxil" is a mistake. "I had a prescription for Klonopin" isn't the same as religiously TAKING Klonopin.
Very often, medications are supposed to be taken for a long time. Weeks... months... years... forever... etc. Fez, on the other hand, takes a nibble off the corner of ONE pill and expects to see results.

Fez doesn't believe in doing actual WORK. In his own words, he believes in WISHES.
Every once in a while, he'll cry into the microphone (to a caller that's badgering him) and say "You think I want to be this way?! You think I don't wish I was normal....."

That isn't enough Fez.
You have to do the work.

Look at it this way. Let's pretend that we were talking about Fezzie's abs instead of his mental state. Let's pretend that it was his PHYSICAL state that was bothering him... and that he was trying to "work on" his abs.
Would he have a six pack? Nope.
There's more to getting a six pack then "talking to somebody", or "reading about it", or "trying to do a sit-up once", or "I'll bring that up to my trainer", or..... or...... etc.
YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO DO THE WORK.
Proper diet. (not starvatation)
Proper sleep.
Proper exercises in the proper sequence.
Sacrifice.
Pain.
Dedication.
Supplementation.
REPEAT.
and, maybe, in 16 months... you'll look like an Olympian.


Mental health is no different.

Well said Love Fez ,but he does not take meds advice or therapy as Prescribed...just as a pill will not cure Diabeates...you need diet and exercise with meds, prayer, friends family and a positive mental outlook ...Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting things too change.

[fezident]

hence why what he's suffering from is called a MENTAL disorder

Exactly.
But it looked to me like Sailor was equating lung cancer to mental problems/phobias/neurosis etc.

[CountryBob]

I don't know, man. You can hate on Fez all you want but I got to hand it to the guy. I locked him in a bus and he never cried. Sure, he tried to get me fired but he did it like a man.

OK - I'll bite. Are you really the one that locked him in a bus? You mention it an awful lot around here.

[sailor]

Exactly.
But it looked to me like Sailor was equating lung cancer to mental problems/phobias/neurosis etc.

I was equating it, as a way of saying it's silly for folks to say "just get over it.". Yes, if someone thinks they're seeing demons that are going to kill them, we know these demons aren't real; on the other hand it's kooky to say this person's problem isn't real.

[fezident]

Sailor.
We are in agreement.
Although I do think there needs to be a distinction between fears and tumors.

I know a child that was deathly afraid of rollercoasters. Petrified.
He cried and screamed at the mere THOUGHT of going on one. He did eventually go on one and... the instant it the ride came to a stop, he smiled and "again! again!!".
"problem", solved.

There is no version of that story for lung cancer.

The difference between "real" and (in this case) "real-to-Fez" is vast.

[fezident]

EDIT:
But please know that I'm not suggesting that Fez should "just get over it".
I am suggesting that he "DEALS with it".

Wanting to get healthy is not the same thing as TRYING to get healthy.

He simply isn't doing the work.

[balancedchaos]

OK - I'll bite. Are you really the one that locked him in a bus? You mention it an awful lot around here.

No. No he's not.

[budb78]

Nuff said.

[hanso]

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