Ron and Fez Listening thread - 08/05/10 - Not again....

[Misteriosa]

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Please Help Sexy Bastard's niece. Donate blood today. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87020&highlight=give+blood)

Would you like to play a game? Of Softball? (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87381)

Buy an Eastside Dave Shirt. (http://www.cafepress.com/robotartist)

Start a thread about something you heard on the show. Really. Do it. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4)

866 RON 0 FEZ

[CountryBob]

Mornin - sausage and eggs!

[Sofa_King]

oh here comes fez...

[Misteriosa]

Mornin - sausage and eggs!

hey hey :-)

your gonna have to keep me posted on whats going on. i cant listen yet as im still typing psych evals :o im surprised i had to scramble to get the thread going today

(sorry if the pics are generic, there is only so much i can do from the work 'puter and my lady pic knowledge is pretty limited :down: )

[Chigworthy]

Here comes the crazytalk

[Sofa_King]

lol TRUTH BOMB: we don't vote on rights!

[Chigworthy]

lol TRUTH BOMB: we don't vote on rights!

I can relax now that I know that our rights can be decided on by the courts without the pesky meddling of the people.

[foodcourtdruide]

Anytime I hear the term "judicial activism" I know I'm listening to a conservative that doesn't understand how the courts work, and have worked throughout the history of this country.

[realmenhatelife]

gay rights topic = 90 minutes of fez abuse calls followed by 90 minutes of fez advice calls

[foodcourtdruide]

Blowhard's position is stupid. This is like saying a black judge can't decide on civil rights.

[Willmore]

You tell'em, blowhard. The vote of the majority must be respected.

Oh fuck, look at the time, I have to get back to my plantation, all 'dem slaves be misbehavin'.

[Buffalo Back Jared]

I can relax now that I know that our rights can be decided on by the courts without the pesky meddling of the people.

Rights shouldn't be decided by people. Rights are guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Look at DC & Chicago -- the people ban guns in their cities by vote, but judges determined the constitution allows the right to bear arms. That's judges jobs, dude. They determine constitutionality of laws.

Prop 8 was unconstitutional.

[n0thng2bdone]

funny stuff

[foodcourtdruide]

It's really funny to hear blowhard say that the constitution says this idea of "the people have spoken" is how the constitution works. If this is the case, why wouldn't we just decide everything by mass votes?

[realmenhatelife]

Blowhard is ignoring that the higher courts act as a checks and ballance system for the lower courts.


And if it was just up to majority vote noone would be paying taxes.

[foodcourtdruide]

Blowhard is ignoring that the higher courts act as a checks and ballance system for the lower courts.


And if it was just up to majority vote noone would be paying taxes.

He's ignoring it because it hurts his argumente. Oh my god, he said "activist judiciary" again.

[Chigworthy]

Rights shouldn't be decided by people. Rights are guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Look at DC & Chicago -- the people ban guns in their cities by vote, but judges determined the constitution allows the right to bear arms. That's judges jobs, dude. They determine constitutionality of laws.

Prop 8 was unconstitutional.

So why was it put up as a vote in the first place? By your reasoning, constitutional issues should never be voted on by the people?

[Godzoox]

DO you think Blowhard has cardboard cut outs of people that he debates with all day...

[Sofa_King]

It's really funny to hear blowhard say that the constitution says this idea of "the people have spoken" is how the constitution works. If this is the case, why wouldn't we just decide everything by mass votes?

when did Ron make that statement in your signature? shit is DEEP!

[Dell]

morning buddays...:bye:

gay rights, gay marriage, peoples rights, court processes = not funny...:thumbdown:

[n0thng2bdone]

i remember blowhard saying a bunch of racist shit about the puerto rican day parade

[Pittsburgh]

The cutouts would win.

[CountryBob]

Rights shouldn't be decided by people. Rights are guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Look at DC & Chicago -- the people ban guns in their cities by vote, but judges determined the constitution allows the right to bear arms. That's judges jobs, dude. They determine constitutionality of laws.

Prop 8 was unconstitutional.

Does the constitution have anything about marriage in it? I dont think so....

[Misteriosa]

You tell'em, blowhard. The vote of the majority must be respected.

Oh fuck, look at the time, I have to get back to my plantation, all 'dem slaves be misbehavin'.

yep... i'd still be slaving in the sugar cane fields or taking care of the Doña's children and wouldnt be able to date my boyfriend under that line of thought.. :down:

[foodcourtdruide]

when did Ron make that statement in your signature? shit is DEEP!

I'm with you, my man. I don't remember, but I was like, "Damn, I'm not the only one?"

[Furtherman]

Same sex marriage is gay.

[realmenhatelife]

He's ignoring it because it hurts his argumente. Oh my god, he said "activist judiciary" again.

I wonder if he was bummed about the Scopes Monkey Trial, or Dredd Scott too? People have used the courts provacatively throughout history.

[Buffalo Back Jared]

So why was it put up as a vote in the first place? By your reasoning, constitutional issues should never be voted on by the people?

IIRC it's because Prop 8 proponents were able to place the ballot initiative based on a collection of signatures. You can get any initiative on a ballot if you get enough signatures on the petition, but it doesn't mean that the final measure (if enacted) will pass Constitutional muster.

[A.J.]

Actually Fez, the NFL DID let in a bigot: right here in Washington, DC. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Preston_Marshall#Racism)

[Chigworthy]

IIRC it's because Prop 8 proponents were able to place the ballot initiative based on a collection of signatures. You can get any initiative on a ballot if you get enough signatures on the petition, but it doesn't mean that the final measure (if enacted) will pass Constitutional muster.

Sounds like we should just eliminate voting altogether and just run propositions by the Judges. It'll streamline this whole process.

[CountryBob]

US Constitution trumps all - and to think, if Ben Gates hadnt have stolen it, it would have been destroyed for a treasure map!

[Chigworthy]

US Constitution trumps all - and to think, if Ben Gates hadnt have stolen it, it would have been destroyed for a treasure map!

Is Ben Gates that rooster-headed Elvis impersonator?

[realmenhatelife]

Blowhard is pissed that the courts sunk Prop 9, the initiative banning Pabst Blue Ribbon in Brooklyn hipster bars.

[Buffalo Back Jared]

Does the constitution have anything about marriage in it? I dont think so....

Nope, but it does have the 14th Amendment in the BoR that provides equal protection under the law.

[Sofa_King]

lol "straight people are every bit as disgusting as gays". reminds me of david brent: "women. are. filthy."

[Godzoox]

Oh this is gonna end in big big big tears...the gay topic always ends well...

[CountryBob]

I agree that if people vote for and approve something - it should be shot down if it goes against constituitional law.
This is not gonna be satisfied until the gays get their own country and go do what they do without having to deal with straight people.

[Sofa_King]

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does anybody remember laughter?

[SinA]

Blowhard is, as usual, a dumbass.
Judges are allowed to have opinions and emotions and and still rule on a case. Usually "conflict of interest" is only an issue when there is a direct or indirect financial relationship. Perception of conflict is often enough for a judge to recuse themselves, but it's not required and it's at the judge's discretion or appellant's request.

[Buffalo Back Jared]

Sounds like we should just eliminate voting altogether and just run propositions by the Judges. It'll streamline this whole process.

Nope -- the key is to make sure that whatever law you put to a ballot initiative will stand up to a Constitutional test. It's not that difficult to figure out. You can come up with any wacky idea to tap into populist rage, but if it's unconstitutional, it won't fly.

My bigger issue with this process in general is the politicization of the Supreme Court -- which is the end-all/ be-all of decision making, of course. I hate the fact that conservative/Republican presidents (and the confirming Congress) feel the need to place ideologically conservative judges on the court, and liberals/Democrats do the same only with liberal judges.

I'm basically a socialist, but I want 9 politically neutral judges on the court so they can look at cases objectively.

[denko]

i could see a potential conflict of interest with a gay judge, but whatever.

where was pro-constitution flag waving fezzie a month ago when he wanted to take our guns away?

[Chigworthy]

Nope -- the key is to make sure that whatever law you put to a ballot initiative will stand up to a Constitutional test. It's not that difficult to figure out. You can come up with any wacky idea to tap into populist rage, but if it's unconstitutional, it won't fly.

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to just run them by the judges?

[Buffalo Back Jared]

I agree that if people vote for and approve something - it should be shot down if it goes against constituitional law.
This is not gonna be satisfied until the gays get their own country and go do what they do without having to deal with straight people.

France?

[Sofa_King]

I agree that if people vote for and approve something - it should be shot down if it goes against constituitional law.
This is not gonna be satisfied until the gays get their own country and go do what they do without having to deal with straight people.

England?

[sailor]

Fez is off on the judge issue. In his example it would be as if the mike vick judge was a fellow dog fighter and let him off. Although I think that judge being a dog lover should have recused himself as well.

[Buffalo Back Jared]

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to just run them by the judges?

Easier, sure, but if you're trying to rile up political furor, you want this stuff to be as big as possible. Think of how many politicians have their careers made by topics like this. If I was a pro-prop 8 (anti-gay) politician I could go to my constituents and claim the world will end if we allow gays to marry, but I'll fight the issue tooth and nail. I then sit back and let the campaign donations roll in.

As cynical as it sounds, I guarantee that 99% of these types of things are strictly for ginning up campaign donations...

[TjM]

Fez is off on the judge issue. In his example it would be as if the mike vick judge was a fellow dog fighter and let him off. Although I think that judge being a dog lover should have recused himself as well.

So a woman can't rule on abortion, A black person on a civil rights case? That's asinine

[CountryBob]

i could see a potential conflict of interest with a gay judge, but whatever.

where was pro-constitution flag waving fezzie a month ago when he wanted to take our guns away?

Call in and expose Fez's one sided ideals.

[Chigworthy]

pro-prop 8 (anti-gay)

?

[Sofa_King]

i don't believe this caller is gay. the roman empire was sacked by gays?

[CountryBob]

Gay Fight!!!!
Oh no he didnt say Hissy Fit!!

[Willmore]

Nope -- the key is to make sure that whatever law you put to a ballot initiative will stand up to a Constitutional test. It's not that difficult to figure out. You can come up with any wacky idea to tap into populist rage, but if it's unconstitutional, it won't fly.

My bigger issue with this process in general is the politicization of the Supreme Court -- which is the end-all/ be-all of decision making, of course. I hate the fact that conservative/Republican presidents (and the confirming Congress) feel the need to place ideologically conservative judges on the court, and liberals/Democrats do the same only with liberal judges.

I'm basically a socialist, but I want 9 politically neutral judges on the court so they can look at cases objectively.

9 politically neutral judges? Have you ever even met 9 politically neutral people?

[Buffalo Back Jared]

?

yeah, sorry I thought that looked odd -- the folks who were for prop 8 ("pro-prop 8"), were against gay marriage.

thus, "Pro-prop 8 (anti gay)"

[Buffalo Back Jared]

9 politically neutral judges? Have you ever even met 9 politically neutral people?

I know, that's the problem. But, then again, supposedly 20%+ of the population is politically "independent", though I think the real # of folks who truly are ideologically indy is probably closer to 8-10%...

[TjM]

i don't believe this caller is gay. the roman empire was sacked by gays?

Supposedly some believe that once they allowed that kind of behavior. The moral fabric was ruined and the empire crumbled

[realmenhatelife]

I dont disagree that there will be a contingent of gay activists who go after private institutions like churches once gay marriage is legal. I'm not saying they're right, will succeed, or even be a huge movement, but they'll be there.

[TjM]

I simply believe either party no matter what we're fucked.

[CountryBob]

We need Shirley Roper's opinion on this ruling

[IamFogHat]

Hiya buddays.

[Sofa_King]

Supposedly some believe that once they allowed that kind of behavior. The moral fabric was ruined and the empire crumbled

I thought all ancient guys were queer. Even Plato was a pedo. Romans didn't do like the Greeks did?

[TheCableNazi]

I know, that's the problem. But, then again, supposedly 20%+ of the population is politically "independent", though I think the real # of folks who truly are ideologically indy is probably closer to 8-10%...

Being independent doesn't mean you're neutral, it means you don't feel your ideology lines up with any one political party. It doesn't mean they don't have political opinions or biases.

[TjM]

We need Shirley Roper's opinion on this ruling

We need to get Shirley Roper a piece of rope and a tall chair

[Buffalo Back Jared]

I dont disagree that there will be a contingent of gay activists who go after private institutions like churches once gay marriage is legal. I'm not saying they're right, will succeed, or even be a huge movement, but they'll be there.

I don't think so, because I think if your church was really anti-gay, you probably wouldn't want to be married by them. I think most of the marriages will be secular, civic deals, with Unitarians being the main religious body performing them.

[TjM]

I thought all ancient guys were queer. Even Plato was a pedo. Romans didn't do like the Greeks did?

I think the theory falls under "Shit people say when they're afraid of all the queers"

[Crispy123]

This guy probably will suck a bag of dicks in a foxhole!

[Buffalo Back Jared]

Being independent doesn't mean you're neutral, it means you don't feel your ideology lines up with any one political party. It doesn't mean they don't have political opinions or biases.

True, but at least they don't feel like they're part of a specific team. If the Sox are battling the Yankees in court, I'd rather have a Padre or Diamondback on the bench...

[Chigworthy]

Dumbest caller on the face of the planet?

[Willmore]

I agree with this guy, and I've mentioned it before when the topic came up. I see no reason to get riled up about the word "marriage".

For me, it would be fine if the US law code eliminated the word entirely, and all the tax laws, visitation laws, etc. etc. had the word civil partner in it, or some other similar term. So, in the eyes of the law there is no difference what sex you are, if you have a partner, you have a partner, who gives a fuck who that partner is.

Now, if you also want to have a church marriage ceremony, sure, go ahead, find a church that wants to do it, and the world is your oyster.

[Crispy123]

how can you not "beleive" in homosexuality? Fags are everywhere! Look at half the people on this board.

[sailor]

So a woman can't rule on abortion, A black person on a civil rights case? That's asinine



No, an abortionist can't rule on abortion. It's all about the appearance of impropriety.

[CountryBob]

Face Fez !!!!

[denko]

Face!

i had to call 42 times to get through

[Buffalo Back Jared]

I agree with this guy, and I've mentioned it before when the topic came up. I see no reason to get riled up about the word "marriage".

For me, it would be fine if the US law code eliminated the word entirely, and all the tax laws, visitation laws, etc. etc. had the word civil partner in it, or some other similar term. So, in the eyes of the law there is no difference what sex you are, if you have a partner, you have a partner, who gives a fuck who that partner is.

Now, if you also want to have a church marriage ceremony, sure, go ahead, find a church that wants to do it, and the world is your oyster.

amen

[Dell]

BE MORE FUNNY!!!

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[CountryBob]

Face!

i had to call 42 times to get through

Nice - never give up!

[realmenhatelife]

I don't think so, because I think if your church was really anti-gay, you probably wouldn't want to be married by them. I think most of the marriages will be secular, civic deals, with Unitarians being the main religious body performing them.

I definately dont understand how gay guys can also be very religious, and I know some, but I was thinking more of radical people. The Westboro Baptist Church is a really small group of people who get a lot of attention that completely defys logic- gays and radical protest go hand in hand and if a handful of those guys protesting churches would be a very visual thing. Also, you have that new movement in christianity with the tattood rock band preachers. I wonder if one of them would choose to take a pro gay stance and become a very public voice for people that use different interpretations for the prohibitive passages of the bible.

[Hottub]

Worst callers ever.:thumbdown:

[Crispy123]

I definately dont understand how gay guys can also be very religious, and I know some, but I was thinking more of radical people.

Seriously, I thought religion was directly tied in to how airtight your sphincter is.

[Willmore]

How can someone not believe in gays? The evidence is all around us!

http://www.teddwebb.com/showcase/where_are_they_now/ron-fez_marie_whatley.jpg

http://www.cracked.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/horseshoe.jpg

http://www.cracked.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/pencil4.jpg

[Misteriosa]

when ron told fez that shower bench was against gay mariage, you heard fezzie's heart crash on the floor.

[IamFogHat]

Fuckin starvin. We got any cupcakes back there Earl?

[Buffalo Back Jared]

I definately dont understand how gay guys can also be very religious, and I know some, but I was thinking more of radical people. The Westboro Baptist Church is a really small group of people who get a lot of attention that completely defys logic- gays and radical protest go hand in hand and if a handful of those guys protesting churches would be a very visual thing. Also, you have that new movement in christianity with the tattood rock band preachers. I wonder if one of them would choose to take a pro gay stance and become a very public voice for people that use different interpretations for the prohibitive passages of the bible.

I'd like to see a major pro athlete come forward, instead. I think that would have more general influence. Could you imagine if Tim Tebow said "Eh, let the gays marry. Why would I care?" I think the state of Florida would implode...

[sailor]

Certain Anglican union sections (or whatever their divisions are called) perform gay marriages and they also have a few openly gay priests.

[Misteriosa]

Fuckin starvin. We got any cupcakes back there Earl?

that would be so good right about now...

im snacking on these and i feel like a filthy slob :down:

http://julieanded.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/almond-kisses.jpg

[sailor]

Well we knew tanley was opposed to the posthumous award already.

[realmenhatelife]

The problem with this caller is he's implying that Ron doesn't hate the listeners.

[IamFogHat]

Thank you.

[Crispy123]

I will compliment you and thank you as much as I want, Ronny.

I am strong confident Fez Whatley!!!

[sailor]

Stadium half-full? Ever the optimist, Fez.

[Crispy123]

Dave needs to eat the shit of one of those chick journalists on NPR.

Id love to hear him drink Lax Me Schwang's piss.

[Warren Peace]

It's a shitty stadium.

[realmenhatelife]

That stadium is awful, if they had a better place to play that would help.

[sailor]

Went to the hockey hall of fame a few months back and it's basically off the food court of some office building. Kinda sad.

[Crispy123]

Louie is great! I also watch Sons of Anarchy and Rescue Me on FX. They have some strong shit.

[Dell]

Louie is great! I also watch Sons of Anarchy and Rescue Me on FX. They have some strong shit.

I was so disappointed to find that our Verizon Fios does not have FX on demand...would love to catch up on Louie's new show...

[Buffalo Back Jared]

Went to the hockey hall of fame a few months back and it's basically off the food court of some office building. Kinda sad.

oh no, really??? I was looking at maybe going there if I go to the World Juniors in Buffalo this winter... I'd be so disappointed if it sucks.

I hit the Nascar HOF the week it opened before the May Charlotte race, and I was thoroughly disappointed with that place.

[Buffalo Back Jared]

I was so disappointed to find that our Verizon Fios does not have FX on demand...would love to catch up on Louie's new show...

I think all the shows are on FX's website...

[Willmore]

that would be so good right about now...

im snacking on these and i feel like a filthy slob :down:

http://julieanded.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/almond-kisses.jpg

Hey!

Don't belittle yourself.

You're a cute filthy slob, there's a difference.

[Willmore]

I was so disappointed to find that our Verizon Fios does not have FX on demand...would love to catch up on Louie's new show...

If only there was this magic thing called internet, with the mysterious "torrents".

[Willmore]

Sometimes? I don't remember Fez having an original idea, outside his comedy bits.

[Dell]

I think all the shows are on FX's website...

thanks...I don't mind watching a show on my computer "like an animal"...

[Crispy123]

How come team work is great in sports and business but not when it comes to homework?

[sailor]

oh no, really??? I was looking at maybe going there if I go to the World Juniors in Buffalo this winter... I'd be so disappointed if it sucks.

I hit the Nascar HOF the week it opened before the May Charlotte race, and I was thoroughly disappointed with that place.


If you're in the area you'd be silly not to go. It was just a little underwhelming to me.

[disneyspy]

I was so disappointed to find that our Verizon Fios does not have FX on demand...would love to catch up on Louie's new show...

check out hulu

hey buddays!

[Crispy123]

An idea doesn't have to be original, it just has to be marketed and poduced well to be succesfull.

How is anyone supposed to have an original idea about Myan Gods from thousands of years ago???

[Crispy123]

check out hulu

hey buddays!

:bye:

The best thing you can learn in school is how to sell weed.

[Dell]

just saw this on a fb post and I know we are past this subject, but I'm posting it anyway...

laughed my ass off...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs129.ash2/39811_1560358772156_1330904991_2891371_1366644_n.j pg

[Willmore]

How come team work is great in sports and business but not when it comes to homework?

Because a sports team is a mandatory handicap in sports. The group effort of 11 people will never be as efficient as the effort of an individual athlete. That's why team sports are more interesting - there is more at work than the physical and mental performance of individual people, there is the group work that limits their abilities, but creates a compelling drama on the field.

Now, in school, teamwork would be counterproductive, because the goal of a school is to get the maximum out of each individual student, not to create a cohesive working group, that's done later, when the students start actual work.

[disneyspy]

just saw this on a fb post and I know we are past this subject, but I'm posting it anyway...

laughed my ass off...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs129.ash2/39811_1560358772156_1330904991_2891371_1366644_n.j pg

i told you guys facebook was gay

[disneyspy]

:bye:

The best thing you can learn in school is how to sell weed.

i wouldnt know shit about oz's and grams otherwise

[Crispy123]

Because a sports team is a mandatory handicap in sports. The group effort of 11 people will never be as efficient as the effort of an individual athlete. That's why team sports are more interesting - there is more at work than the physical and mental performance of individual people, there is the group work that limits their abilities, but creates a compelling drama on the field. .

How do you explain sculling, then?

Now, in school, teamwork would be counterproductive, because the goal of a school is to get the maximum out of each individual student, not to create a cohesive working group, that's done later, when the students start actual work.

Get the maximum what exactly??? I learned more in the first three months of boot camp than 14 years of school.

[Dell]

How do you explain sculling, then?



Get the maximum what exactly??? I learned more in the first three months of boot camp than 14 years of school.

how many months was your boot camp...thought the first three months were the last three months...

[n0thng2bdone]

this conversation is dumber than anything satirized in Idiocracy. do we really need to defend thought?

[Crispy123]

Wikipedia isn't a trustworthy source, it's whole premise is that anyone can edit it.

There are sources cited for each entry though, and that's what you should be citing for a paper.

[realmenhatelife]

Dude is a liar, if you're in an advanced English track in high school you aren't doing 'book reports.' You do have to produce original thought at higher levels, you learn the basics by wrote. You have to comprehend what you're reading before you can then draw conclusions about it.


I think Ron is looking at his past as a neer do well intellectual through rose colored glasses, as he tells it he was interested in trying to get laid and doing drugs which is why he didn't have time for school.

[Crispy123]

how many months was your boot camp...thought the first three months were the last three months...

thirteen weeks, but I went through about 2 years of total "training".

[A.J.]

When I was in college, it was a pre-internet era. Still, I wouldn't trust Wikipedia when doing a research paper. I'd use it for inspiration, not for citation.

[Willmore]

How do you explain sculling, then?



Get the maximum what exactly??? I learned more in the first three months of boot camp than 14 years of school.

Yeah, in boot camp they first taught you how to be good at things individually. (you're weren't assembling your M-16 with you bunk buddy, were you?)

And then you were taught how to act in a group. Combat patrols, operational command, group think etc. etc.

Now, wouldn't you say that a platoon isn't uniformly "great". There are some good soldiers, some average, some bad, and as such, they will never perform to the ability of the best soldiers, they will rather be an amalgamation of the skills of all those people. It's a good system, because it eliminates, as best it can, the inefficiencies of the sub-par soldiers, but the average army platoon is not a commando force, it's pretty much average.

[n0thng2bdone]

Dude is a liar, if you're in an advanced English track in high school you aren't doing 'book reports.' You do have to produce original thought at higher levels, you learn the basics by wrote. You have to comprehend what you're reading before you can then draw conclusions about it.


I think Ron is looking at his past as a neer do well intellectual through rose colored glasses, as he tells it he was interested in trying to get laid and doing drugs which is why he didn't have time for school.

"antiquidated"

"self-depreciating"

"drownded"

[Crispy123]

Yeah, in boot camp they first taught you how to be good at things individually. (you're weren't assembling your M-16 with you bunk buddy, were you?).

Wrong. The whole idea of boot camp is to get everyone on the same page. It is pure socialism. Everyone is punished if the weopons are not assembled at the same time.

[realmenhatelife]

The reason why we're so advanced is because we dont start our learning at subsistance farming and hunting/gathering. We wouldn't be doing heart transplants because noone would make it through medical school if they had to learn to make their own shoes first. Anything that rolls us back into the stoneage is going to kill us way before our inability to live off the land will.

[realmenhatelife]

"antiquidated"

"self-depreciating"

"drownded"

It doesn't bother me if someone mispronounces something, or doesn't use a word correctly. Words are plastic and can mean just about anything. I think he's just projecting the role of education in his life on everyone else, and that comes with a lot of prejudices.

[Willmore]

Wrong. The whole idea of boot camp is to get everyone on the same page. It is pure socialism. Everyone is punished if the weopons are not assembled at the same time.

The idea of boot camp is to produce soldiers.

The psychological games are purely for camaraderie and morale.

You are still taught things individually, which are then applied in a team.

[Crispy123]

The idea of boot camp is to produce soldiers.

The psychological games are purely for camaraderie and morale.

You are still taught things individually, which are then applied in a team.

OK thanx for your opinion! You are entitled to it even if it is wrong. :bye:

[n0thng2bdone]

it only bothers me when he stops telling jokes, like now. ron sounds like a total moron when he talks about science, spirituality, religion, race, politics, history, etc. at the same time that he professes his love for those, how he reads books and fez doesn't. i don't believe for a second that ron reads anything.

[Sofa_King]

it only bothers me when he stops telling jokes, like now. ron sounds like a total moron when he talks about science, spirituality, religion, race, politics, history, etc. at the same time that he professes his love for those, how he reads books and fez doesn't. i don't believe for a second that ron reads anything.

i think ron has a pretty good, commonsense take on a lot of issues. try comparing ron serious talk to opie/anthony serious talk. he does sound like the professor.

[n0thng2bdone]

i think ron has a pretty good, commonsense take on a lot of issues. try comparing ron serious talk to opie/anthony serious talk. he does sound like the professor.

can't argue with that

[Willmore]

OK thanx for your opinion! You are entitled to it even if it is wrong. :bye:

:furious::furious::furious:

You will pay for your mocker!

Wait, you went through boot camp, you know how to shoot a gun, right?

We're cool. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[disneyspy]

i feel like i hit the jack pot today,been looking for DONE SOMEBODY WRONG (the opener for ron and ron when fez would do his great intros) for years and i'm downloading an allman bros complilation right now off a site someone from here introduced me to,it seriosly rocks and i havent heard it in aboue 14 years,so good of a day,love the internet and you people

[Crispy123]

:furious::furious::furious:

You will pay for your mocker!

Wait, you went through boot camp, you know how to shoot a gun, right?

We're cool. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

I will concede that the different services maybe have slightly different methods and values in boot camp.

but the entire purpose of Marine Corps boot camp is to get a Marine to consider the greater good of the unit than himself.

Thats how you get someone to jump on a grenade or drive a humvee through Baghdad or Tikrit.

[coast]

Disney - you are unbelievable . . . went to the post office and there was a dvd waiting for me.
made my day! thank you

[disneyspy]

Disney - you are unbelievable . . . went to the post office and there was a dvd waiting for me.
made my day! thank you

no prob,now lose my name and address

[n0thng2bdone]

are they still talking about this?

[disneyspy]

and with that its time for todays contest, first person to name the coolest college fight song gets an old school ron and fez dvd

hint-go blue

[Crispy123]

and with that its time for todays contest, first person to name the coolest college fight song gets an old school ron and fez dvd

hint-go blue

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[disneyspy]

http://donkeyts.com.s3.amazonaws.com/artifacts/images/design_data/thumb-275x274-design-402.png

sooray

sooray

[Hottub]

http://soarcomm.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/university-of-michigan_logo.jpg

Hail! to the victors valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan
The leaders and best!
Hail! to the victors valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan,
The champions of the West!

[Willmore]

I will concede that the different services maybe have slightly different methods and values in boot camp.

but the entire purpose of Marine Corps boot camp is to get a Marine to consider the greater good of the unit than himself.

Thats how you get someone to jump on a grenade or drive a humvee through Baghdad or Tikrit.

I agree. Which is pretty much what I said. Boot camp does two things.

Thing 1 - teach you individual skills - shooting, running, jumping, throwing, diving, etc. etc.
Thing 2 - use those skills in a team, build group think, raise morale, create a cohesive unit, instill the values of the Corps.

Now, thing 1 is only limited by the ability of any individual soldier. How good his aim is, how physically fit he is, how well he can concentrate etc.

Thing 2 can never be done to the level of its top potential, which would be 100% efficiency of performance. It can be done to a higher or lower level, depending on the unit's expectation and composition. An Army infantry squad has an average level of X, a Marine Corps squad has a level of X+Y, a SEAL team has a level of X+Y+Z. But that level can never reach 100%, because there is inherent inefficiency in interpersonal communication, cohesion, performance.



Here's a clearer explanation, without tying it into the military.

Let's say you tell a person to unscrew 10,000 light bulbs. The time it takes for him to do the job is only limited by his ability. If he can unscrew 10 light bulbs in a minute, it will take him 1,000 minutes.

Now, assign the same task to 100 people. You already know that 1 person was able to do it in 1000 minute, so 100 people would be able to do it in 10 minutes, right? No. Even if they can all average 10 a minute there will still be inefficiencies, miscommunication, other problems. The limit in a group is not just the ability of each person, it's also the problems arising from working in a group. Sometimes 2 people will go for the same light bulb, sometimes they bump into each other, sometimes they miss a light bulb because they assume someone else will do it.

[disneyspy]

http://soarcomm.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/university-of-michigan_logo.jpg

Hail! to the victors valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan
The leaders and best!
Hail! to the victors valiant
Hail! to the conqu'ring heroes
Hail! Hail! to Michigan,
The champions of the West!

corrrect but past winners cant win



new question,what controversial film documentarian lives in my town?

[IamFogHat]

What's a chower?

[Willmore]

corrrect but past winners cant win



new question,what controversial film documentarian lives in my town?

Mikey Moore.

[IamFogHat]

This isn't going to end well.

[disneyspy]

Mikey Moore.

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PM me your name and address,i'm sending the next batch out monday

[Willmore]

New Fez song.

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[disneyspy]

This isn't going to end well.

i cant wait for him to go see the secret psych today so these looser callers have to shut the fuck up for a day

[n0thng2bdone]

like when brian wilson comes in then fez says he hallucinated on non-hallucinogens, sees ghosts (a repeat but he forgot that gimmick for a while because it's fake)

[Crispy123]

Shittees!!!!


I miss ESD. :sad:

[Pittsburgh]

Fez is a performance artist like a Tourette patient is a free speech advocate.

[Crispy123]

I will clean cum out of my beard when Im damn good and ready!

Im strong confident Fez Whatley.

[CountryBob]

Since everyone is carrying a camera/video phone why isnt there a surplus of UFO sightings and proof now?

[Crispy123]

Aliens have been here forever.

And they fuck monkeys!

[CountryBob]

Haha - The aliens will come and trade Anthrax blankets for tobacco and wampum

[DOHO@HOME]

Aliens have been here forever.

And they fuck monkeys!

Don't they mostly work on farms and do day job's oh and work in kitchens.

[disneyspy]

alright budday been nice,have a good one

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[IamFogHat]

Ronnie's too depressed for the donk.:down:

[DOHO@HOME]

Ronnie's too depressed for the donk.:down:

We are all too depressed for the donk:thumbdown:
Fez is really driving the show down and I hate to continue to bash him but god damit man enough is enough.:wallbash:

[Misteriosa]

we got caught by a surprise audit. sneaky bastards.

had to miss the rest of the show :down: hope it went well.

[disneyspy]

We are all too depressed for the donk:thumbdown:
Fez is really driving the show down and I hate to continue to bash him but god damit man enough is enough.:wallbash:

tomorow is fezday,you'll see

[disneyspy]

we got caught by a surprise audit. sneaky bastards.

had to miss the rest of the show :down: hope it went well.

well if they were checkin for hot chicks its a good thing you work there

[DOHO@HOME]

tomorow is fezday,you'll see

Ok we will turn this around on Fezday.