The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo

[thepaulo]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1645813/20100816/story.jhtml

These films have already been made in Swedish but now David Fincher is all set to go on the American versions.

[weekapaugjz]

:thumbdown:

no reason to remake a great movie.

looking forward to seeing the girl who played with fire in a couple of weeks.

[Zorro]

There is no way they are going to make an American version that is as good and intense as the original. A key scene in the movie would never make it past the MPAA

[S0S]

Rooney Mara Lands Lead in "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo"
(http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1645813/20100816/story.jhtml)

[realmenhatelife]

Rooney Mara Lands Lead in "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo"
(http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1645813/20100816/story.jhtml)

Meh, I was really hoping for Emily Browning.

I think Fincher is good with implied action, so the remake could still acheive a similar effect to the scene that seems unlikely to make the American cut. I also bet the violence will be a little more ramped up. The movie reminded me a lot of Seven when I saw it.

Some awful person will make a point about how the Swedish film implies the murders and shows the sex, and the American version implies the sex and shows the murders.

[Misteriosa]

ive been hearing about this for a while but i have no idea that "the girl with the dragon tattoo" is or why its so important. anyone care to fill me in?

[realmenhatelife]

ive been hearing about this for a while but i have no idea that "the girl with the dragon tattoo" is or why its so important. anyone care to fill me in?

Its a popular Swedish movie trilogy based on a really popular book trilogy that they're expecting to be really big as an American remake. It's about an investigative journalist who is hired to solve a 40 year old murder mystery, and the partnership he forms with a very troubled and gifted tattood goth hacker girl.

You can stream it on Netflix right now, if you have it. I think people especially respond to the girl, Lisbeth Salander. I've seen people describe her as one of the great characters in recent memory.

[Misteriosa]

ok. i'll see if i can stream it tonite. thanks :)

[weekapaugjz]

I've seen people describe her as one of the great characters in recent memory.

I totally agree with that. The actress in the movie does an amazing job. There is no way in the american version of anyone coming close to her performance.

Definitely check it out misti, I think you will really enjoy it.

[foodcourtdruide]

ive been hearing about this for a while but i have no idea that "the girl with the dragon tattoo" is or why its so important. anyone care to fill me in?

Fantastic Swedish film, for some apparent reason being remade a couple years after its successful release.

[Willmore]

There is no way they are going to make an American version that is as good and intense as the original. A key scene in the movie would never make it past the MPAA

Anal rape isn't kosher with the MPAA? Who would'a thunk it.

[Serpico1103]

Anal rape isn't kosher with the MPAA? Who would'a thunk it.

Her limping home made the movie.

[StanUpshaw]

Just watched this, since it's been popping up all over lately.

Now I'm completely baffled about why it's been popping up all over lately.

It's not a bad movie or anything, but there's nothing about it that should warrant international acclaim. If anything, it reminded me of one of the myriad TV murder shows like Ghost Whisperer or something. Instead of magically talking to a ghost, she magically hacks the planet.

I don't get the hype.

[Serpico1103]

Just watched this, since it's been popping up all over lately.

Now I'm completely baffled about why it's been popping up all over lately.

It's not a bad movie or anything, but there's nothing about it that should warrant international acclaim. If anything, it reminded me of one of the myriad TV murder shows like Ghost Whisperer or something. Instead of magically talking to a ghost, she magically hacks the planet.

I don't get the hype.

An explanation would be wasted on you.

[StanUpshaw]

Shucks, guess I missed the Twilight: Scandinavia bandwagon.

Tell me Serp, are you on Team Bjorn or Team Knussen?

[Serpico1103]

Shucks, guess I missed the Twilight: Scandinavia bandwagon.

Tell me Serp, are you on Team Bjorn or Team Knussen?

Twilight reference?
:unsure:
Over my head.

I think you combine posthumously released best selling crime novel trilogy with hit foreign movie release wrapped around an anal rape scene, you have movie magic.

[Kevin]

Gee... I wonder if her being a Mara had any influance in her getting roles..

Just like her sister...

[Willmore]

Just watched this, since it's been popping up all over lately.

Now I'm completely baffled about why it's been popping up all over lately.

It's not a bad movie or anything, but there's nothing about it that should warrant international acclaim. If anything, it reminded me of one of the myriad TV murder shows like Ghost Whisperer or something. Instead of magically talking to a ghost, she magically hacks the planet.

I don't get the hype.

On some level, you are right. It's made by the same production company that has made the Wallander tv movies for BBC. Which, by the way, are fantastic.

[realmenhatelife]

I dont think it's going to be as huge as the hype seems to be hoping. They're big in Europe and you can see them in theaters in America, but they're not factoring in that European audiences will turn up for an all European production. Maybe the idea is that those CSI shows are big in America, and this is a crime mystery.

[Zorro]

Just watched this, since it's been popping up all over lately.

Now I'm completely baffled about why it's been popping up all over lately.

It's not a bad movie or anything, but there's nothing about it that should warrant international acclaim. If anything, it reminded me of one of the myriad TV murder shows like Ghost Whisperer or something. Instead of magically talking to a ghost, she magically hacks the planet.

I don't get the hype.

Luckily you'll get Spiderman 4

[Chigworthy]

Kinda late to the party, but I just read the wiki on the Fincher remake. He's filming this in Sweden. Like the original, that came out in 2009. As in 2 years ago. Here's a picture of the lead from Fincher's flick:

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/rooney-mara-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-06.jpg

Here is a picture of the lead from one of the old films:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bLa3w2Ku5MY/TMnpvryCc0I/AAAAAAAABAk/tPoPEGgbWkA/s1600/hornets+nest.jpg

It would have been cheaper to dub the old ones in english and CG out any tobacco products.

[thepaulo]

Her limping home made the movie.

Speaking of limping after a brutal rape, has anyone seen the I Spit On Your Grave remake?

[realmenhatelife]

Speaking of limping after a brutal rape, has anyone seen the I Spit On Your Grave remake?

I saw like a half hour of it, it was pretty shitty. There's a bullshit factoid in the trivia that says the MPAA gave it an NC17 rating but recommended no cuts because it was such an impactful movie.

[thepaulo]

I saw like a half hour of it, it was pretty shitty. There's a bullshit factoid in the trivia that says the MPAA gave it an NC17 rating but recommended no cuts because it was such an impactful movie.

Boy, this is a can of worms.
On the one hand it is a shitty movie,
on the other hand, it has a strong socio-political subtext.

[realmenhatelife]

Boy, this is a can of worms.
On the one hand it is a shitty movie,
on the other hand, it has a strong socio-political subtext.

It is cyclical and ironic that someone said hey, lets remake one of the big torture porn influences because torture porn is so successful right now even though the most iconic action in the movie is now made less shocking by having already been included in said derivations.



Hey Paulo, I have a new topic for you. Movies about poor people/losers. I was thinking about how sick it is that we only get movies about ther rich and priveledged, dealing with their own idiocy interrupting how rich and priveledged they are. Art is suppose to be for the masses, and inate expression that transcends class and education. I think we're watching movies to fantisize about having less real/banal problems, it's messed up when you think about it, we cant even dream about things being good, we have to dream about them being bad in a more enjoyable way and returning the elite to their rightful and usually unearned place on top.

Clerks and Clerks 2 came to mind, pretty relatable movies.

[thepaulo]

It is cyclical and ironic that someone said hey, lets remake one of the big torture porn influences because torture porn is so successful right now even though the most iconic action in the movie is now made less shocking by having already been included in said derivations.



Hey Paulo, I have a new topic for you. Movies about poor people/losers. I was thinking about how sick it is that we only get movies about ther rich and priveledged, dealing with their own idiocy interrupting how rich and priveledged they are. Art is suppose to be for the masses, and inate expression that transcends class and education. I think we're watching movies to fantisize about having less real/banal problems, it's messed up when you think about it, we cant even dream about things being good, we have to dream about them being bad in a more enjoyable way and returning the elite to their rightful and usually unearned place on top.



Clerks and Clerks 2 came to mind, pretty relatable movies.

Clerks I & II are about losers who are basically content and happy.
There are lots of loser movies but most are not popular.
I have a thread about the most depressing movies ever made and I always use the Jack Nicholson/Merryl Strep movie Ironweed as the ultimate low.

The female character in I Spit On Your Grave seemingly grabs victory from defeat, but is no longer a sane happy person. She has no choices left.

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo has a more evolved psychological structure even though sustained abuse and trauma has made her primary motivations revenge.

[Chigworthy]

I'm not sure I understand RMHL's premise completely..

But I have noticed that the majority of the major motion pictures focus on characters with an above-average station in life. And the majority of indies tend to focus on more "average" characters.

Here is where I was going to write a paragraph about my amateurish analysis of mass appeal, but I douched myself out.

[realmenhatelife]

Clerks I & II are about losers who are basically content and happy.
There are lots of loser movies but most are not popular.
I have a thread about the most depressing movies ever made and I always use the Jack Nicholson/Merryl Strep movie Ironweed as the ultimate low.

The female character in I Spit On Your Grave seemingly grabs victory from defeat, but is no longer a sane happy person. She has no choices left.

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo has a more evolved psychological structure even though sustained abuse and trauma has made her primary motivations revenge.

It doesn't have to be depressing, and I'm not saying bad stuff happening to rich people isn't depressing. But I'm interested in mediocre people, people like you see every day of your life. I could look at Ironweed and say atleast he excelled at something but was ruined. When you elevate a character before you lay him low, to make it more tragic, in reality you're saying that it isn't as tragic for a normal person to fall, their life has less value, which I dont think is true. Any life is a valuable thing, we're jaded to that.

Get Low might be another movie, if everything worked out for Robert Duval in that movie he would've been indistinguishable from most people in the world.

As I deal with the notion that I am not going to acomplish anything extraordinary in my life I am becoming much more interested in ordinary people.



I've only seent he movies but is Girl With The Dragon Tattoo really about revenge? The first movie isn't about the act of revenge that goes on or Noomi Repace dealing with her trauma, it's about a murder investigation and Blomquist redeeming himself. That whole thing is more of a character point to me. The girl becomes tied to the events of the trilogy but I never took revenge as her motivation.

[thepaulo]

To keep with the Swedish theme, I've been watching the Wallender seriers of filmswith Kenneth Brannagh. It's a little like House meets The Killing.
(The Killing is based on a Swedish series.)
If you like the Killing it has the same feel. I liked it a lot. It won some BAFTA's. (Like anyone gives a shit about the Baftas.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Wallander

[Chigworthy]

To keep with the Swedish theme, I've been watching the Wallender seriers of filmswith Kenneth Brannagh. It's a little like House meets The Killing.
(The Killing is based on a Swedish series.)
If you like the Killing it has the same feel. I liked it a lot. It won some BAFTA's. (Like anyone gives a shit about the Baftas.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Wallander

I've been reading a shitpile of Hanning Mankel lately. I'm always amazed when something written in a foreign language translates so well into another one. I've only read one of the Wallender books, which was pretty good. His non-mystery, more literature-oriented stuff is amazing, particularly Depths.

[StanUpshaw]

I'm always amazed when something written in a foreign language translates so well into another one.

The Germanics are essentially the same language, just with different words (and often those aren't too different).

[Chigworthy]

The Germanics are essentially the same language, just with different words (and often those aren't too different).

That does nothing to explain how works by Arturo Perez-Reverte and Carlos Ruis Zafon work so well in english.

[StanUpshaw]

Not to mention Julio Estes Masvidal and Pedro Jesus Bueno.

[Chigworthy]

Not to mention Julio Estes Masvidal and Pedro Jesus Bueno.

Fuck them.

[realmenhatelife]

A Void by Georges Perec is a full length french novel written entirely without the letter E, which was then translated into English still without the letter E.

[Chigworthy]

A Void by Georges Perec is a full length french novel written entirely without the letter E, which was then translated into English still without the letter E.

Gorgs Prc sounds lik a prtntious douch.

[realmenhatelife]

Gorgs Prc sounds lik a prtntious douch.

I should clarify and say that he didn't just write a novel and delete the letter E, he devised 300 pages of text without using any words that use the letter E.

[Chigworthy]

I should clarify and say that he didn't just write a novel and delete the letter E, he devised 300 pages of text without using any words that use the letter E.

That author sounds as though "pompous ass" should apply to him.

[thepaulo]

I now must get the E-less book.

(on a side note, I was getting a nagging feeling watching the Wallender series. It finnally occured to me that one of his annoying side-kicks just played Loki in the film he directed.)

[Chigworthy]

Watching the Fincher remake now and I have to admit that this is a well made film. I still don't know why they had to remake something so recent and well-made, but there is no denying the direction, performances, and score of Fincher's version work together very well. The Reznor/Ross score is amazing. That being said, I still can't imagine watching the fucking facebook movie.

Did Fincher film the whole trilogy as one?