Using Sick days. Is it any one else's business what you do during that time?

[Sinestro]

Do you only use your sick days only when you're sick or have to go to the doctors? Who's business is it any ways what you use your sick day for. It's part of your work allotment. If you don't get paid for unused sick days and hardly call out, what business is it of others what you use your sick day for? If I don't want to go to work that day, I'll call in sick and do something else. Who hasn't strung along 1-2 sick days to extend a weekend?

Here are some of my examples:

I called in sick and told my boss what I was calling in sick for as me and my boss get along well (I was helping out a friend that needed help that day), they said that's not a sick day and I got to use a personal day. Fine I did. I leaned my lesson as not what to tell them the next time I call out sick.

Another time I used my sick days was during a Thurs and Friday as I was going to be going to Las Vegas and used a comp day for Monday. I told some of my co-workers (that I trusted) what I was doing so that they can re-arrange and adjust the schedule to not overburden themselves for me not being there. My boss never found out and my co-workers thought I was nuts. I forgot to call in sick that Friday but my co-workers covered for me that I called the office that day.

I rarely call in sick and have built up a lot of sick time. If I use a sick day, whatever I do that day is my business. I was reading an article in the newspaper re: using sick days (and some of the people in the article did something similar to what I did) and they were getting flack for it. BUT it's okay to use a sick day to go to the NY Yankees parade and no one has a problem with that. C'mon.

So do you only use your sick days when you're sick or have doctor's appointments. Or do you use them for when you feel like it and what did you do on your "alleged" sick day?

[Fallon]

I've only taken one sick day this calender year, it was after my shift changed to days and I was just exhausted.

I think the bosses should only be concerned if it's a regular thing. If it's every once and a while I don't see the problem. I get a few weeks of sick time a year, if I can only use it when I'm ill I'm gonna have a ton of hours left when I retire!

[SatCam]

when I call out sick usually I call up the daily news to make sure its an approved reason

[Sinestro]

when I call out sick usually I call up the daily news to make sure its an approved reason

:thumbup:

[TheGameHHH]

As long as you don't abuse it, its really nobodys business. But there's a fine line on abuse. I worked with a speech therapist this past year that had accumulated 45 sicks days and figured it was now alright to use about one a week. Then she was shocked when she was let go after the town's budget didn't pass.

[StanUpshaw]

You're bound to whatever is says in your employee handbook. I'd guess that it says sick days are exactly that.

[Chigworthy]

If you have unpaid sick leave, but you don't think there is anything wrong with taking the day off when you're not sick, then why not just ask for the day off? If there wasn't something at least minutely wrong with it, you would just ask for the day off.

On the other hand, it's not a big deal, so you should just be ok with cheating the system a little by using a sick day for fun. I think the most important things to consider is whether it is hurting the company and whether it is inconveniencing your coworkers. If it does neither, who gives a fuck?

[weekapaugjz]

i use a sick day every 3-4 weeks on a day i just need to unwind/catch up on things during the day. use them sparingly and no one says shit.

[weekapaugjz]

I think the most important things to consider is whether it is hurting the company and whether it is inconveniencing your coworkers. If it does neither, who gives a fuck?

fuck your coworkers. they have sick days too.

[Suspect Chin]

I wish every company would just go to PTO (personal time off) days that encompass both sick and vacation time. Most people feel guilty and never use the sick time they are given.

[Barnaby Jones]

If I've got paid sick time due to me I expect to be able to call in and say nothing beyond "sorry, I won't be in today; I'm using sick time!" If the boss pushes and asks what's wrong then the answer is just "I'm sick! Bye!"

[Devo37]

I wish every company would just go to PTO (personal time off) days that encompass both sick and vacation time. Most people feel guilty and never use the sick time they are given.

a lot of companies seem to be doing this, which seems to be just a way of reducing the amount of paid days off.

i worked for a company years ago that gave 2 weeks of vacation and (up to) 10 days of sick days per year. most people didn't use much of the sick days, but i made damn sure to take a friday off almost every month!! i also got laid off from that company, so maybe doing that made me seem lazy...

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

I called out sick once and my supervisor said "No, there's no one to cover you." I was really sick but I went in anyway.

Then my co-workers complained I was spreading germs.

That is/was common practice with this company. I am SO GLAD I no longer work there!!!

[weekapaugjz]

I called out sick once and my supervisor said "No, there's no one to cover you." I was really sick but I went in anyway.

this happened to me today. i had to cover for some fuckstick who claimed he had food poisoning this morning. being a supervisor sucks.

per my previous post: he doesn't have sick time, he's a seasonal employee

[Chigworthy]

this happened to me today. i had to cover for some fuckstick who claimed he had food poisoning this morning. being a supervisor sucks.

per my previous post: he doesn't have sick time, he's a seasonal employee

Maybe he said this:

fuck your coworkers.

[TripleSkeet]

At my stadium job we are allowed 7 unexcused absences per season. This is in our union contract. I NEVER use them for when Im actually sick as most of my coworkers wont cover for me when I need them to so I have to save them for when I need a day off, but I always use all 7 every season.

2 years ago we got a new GM who came from the non-union restaurant business and wasnt really familiar with how the rules worked. I called up and said I was calling out and he asked why? My response was "What does that matter? Ive got something else Ive got to do." This guy flipped and tried having a meeting about it but was told by just about everyone from his managers to the shop steward that he couldnt do anything and if he did hed be fucking with the union. They then explained that an unexcused absence was just that and it was the same if I was going out drinking for the World Series (2 years running!) or in bed with swine flu. They all count the same and he would have to learn to deal with it.

[Suspect Chin]

a lot of companies seem to be doing this, which seems to be just a way of reducing the amount of paid days off.


It seems like it would give you more paid days off. Say you get 10 vacation days and 10 sick days. With PTO (at least as I understand it. My company doesn't use it), you'd get 20 no-questions-asked days off.

They all count the same and he would have to learn to deal with it.

Exactly. Why put a label on why someone takes a day off? All it does is force people into lying that they sick.

[TripleSkeet]

It seems like it would give you more paid days off. Say you get 10 vacation days and 10 sick days. With PTO (at least as I understand it. My company doesn't use it), you'd get 20 no-questions-asked days off.



Exactly. Why put a label on why someone takes a day off? All it does is force people into lying that they sick.

Well yea. But the only reason we get away with it is because its union. And they STILL get pissed if we do. I happen to have a type of job in there where he cant fuck with my schedule or money, but others dont. And they have to be careful because there are other ways he can punish them without firing them.

I gotta say though there was something really satisfying about calling out because I was going to be across the street getting drunk at a Phillies World Series game and being able to tell them that.

[sailor]

Well yea. But the only reason we get away with it is because its union. And they STILL get pissed if we do. I happen to have a type of job in there where he cant fuck with my schedule or money, but others dont. And they have to be careful because there are other ways he can punish them without firing them.

I gotta say though there was something really satisfying about calling out because I was going to be across the street getting drunk at a Phillies World Series game and being able to tell them that.

we have a similar set-up in a non-union workplace.

[TheGameHHH]

Well yea. But the only reason we get away with it is because its union. And they STILL get pissed if we do. I happen to have a type of job in there where he cant fuck with my schedule or money, but others dont. And they have to be careful because there are other ways he can punish them without firing them.

I gotta say though there was something really satisfying about calling out because I was going to be across the street getting drunk at a Phillies World Series game and being able to tell them that.

why not just work the game? id rather be there live and say I saw something cool like a World Series game than at the bar getting blackout drunk. every person in America can do that, few can say they were there.

[Melk]

I used to be sick the whole final week of December after spending the previous months of the year being as healthy as a horse.

[boobieman]

Sick days are for hang overs....vacation days are for causing the hang over.

I have sick time that I build up...city worker. About 6 weeks ago i screwed up my knee and was out for 5 weeks. I had the sick time to cover it. it's good to save up some sick time in case of just such an emergency.

Taking a sick day here and their is good, you need a break and besides, doesn't our jobs just make all of us sick.

Now I have to go and drop something on my knee...best 5 weeks I had in a long time.

SSSSEYYAYAAA

[JimBeam]

I get " unlimited " sick days @ my job so if I'm faking it I think my company would have a right to know, not that they could/would ever find out about it.

I woman I work w/ abuses it so much that I almost wish they'd change the policy just to screw her.

[CountryBob]

I work in HR and one of my responsibilities is onboarding new employees. I stress that the alloted sick time that each employee has is just that. Use it if you or a dependent is sick or for doctors apointments - its not additional vacation time. After that, we dont police the sick time or anything. i just tell them once and forget it.
When an employee has been taking a random sick day each month as others have stated earlier in this thread - it does get noticed and you best be sure that when layoffs happen - those employees get a closer look about letting go.. (of course this is under the table and not legal - but it happens about everywhere)...
But we all have taken a sick day every now and then when we were not completely sick....:wink:

[JimBeam]

My company is too big for them to realistically keep track of days out.

I just wish the managers could take notice of this one lady who constantly takes " sick " days preceding or following vacation/holidays.

I so hope they'd call her on that.

[angrymissy]

My current job gives you unlimited sick days, but you get 75% pay. That really curbed the amount of sick time I take. I used to call in ALL the time at my last job.

[Chigworthy]

I woman.

Couldn't resist.

[JPMNICK]

My current job gives you unlimited sick days, but you get 75% pay. That really curbed the amount of sick time I take. I used to call in ALL the time at my last job.

i actually like that deal, does it apply to vacation days to or are they separate?

[Jujubees2]

Has anyone ever been asked for a doctor's note after taking sick days?

[biggestmexi]

Is it called a sick day or pesonal day. They are called that for a reason don't you think?


However I only get 1 sick day a year, and I rarely use that, along with my 10 vacay days.

[JimBeam]

My MIL's husband is a doctor so if I ever decide to abuse things I'll have him write something.

But I thankfully never get really sick and I've learn to go to work w/ hangovers so I never have to abuse my sickdays.

[angrymissy]

i actually like that deal, does it apply to vacation days to or are they separate?

I get 3 weeks vacation and 3 personal days that are paid 100%. I think it's pretty fair, and it's just enough to stop people from abusing sick days.

[Misteriosa]

i have 456 hours of "sick days" in my time bank. however, to actually access these hours, i need a doctor's note that effectively puts me out of commision for 5 days or more. so basically, if im not dying, i can't use them. also, any unused vacation time gets put into this bank. it also damn near impossible to take time off as well, as any sick days have to be asked for in advance :wacko:. so no car accidents or 24 hr flu bugs for me. i have to lug my ass into work even with the plague

[sailor]

My company is too big for them to realistically keep track of days out.

I just wish the managers could take notice of this one lady who constantly takes " sick " days preceding or following vacation/holidays.

I so hope they'd call her on that.

No matter how big it is a decent hr department can keep track of it. First, before or after a holiday is a major/immediate red flag. Another thing they will look for is if someone consistently calls out the same day of the week (usually Fridays or Mondays).

[JPMNICK]

I get 3 weeks vacation and 3 personal days that are paid 100%. I think it's pretty fair, and it's just enough to stop people from abusing sick days.

yea that is a great deal, even the 75% is not terrible

[boobieman]

Has anyone ever been asked for a doctor's note after taking sick days?

All the time....if I take 2 days in a row or a day after a weekend or before a weekend it counts as two. So I go to my doctor sometimes and pretend to be sort of sick..get myself a few days. Now I want to re save up.

SSSYEYAYAAAA

[Barnaby Jones]

Has anyone ever been asked for a doctor's note after taking sick days?

Yes, I have. My company claims to be able to ask for one if you request to use sick time at least 3 days in a row! Seems crappy to me if you've actually got the paid time off due to you, but I went ahead and did it since the 1 time I did miss 3 days it was due to having pneumonia!

[CountryBob]

Yes, I have. My company claims to be able to ask for one if you request to use sick time at least 3 days in a row! Seems crappy to me if you've actually got the paid time off due to you, but I went ahead and did it since the 1 time I did miss 3 days it was due to having pneumonia!

That's what is in our handbook - 2 days sick? Note not required. 3 days or more out sick? Doctor's note to get back in the door.

[TripleSkeet]

why not just work the game? id rather be there live and say I saw something cool like a World Series game than at the bar getting blackout drunk. every person in America can do that, few can say they were there.

Right idea, wrong stadium. What I actually did was call out of working a random Sixers game and a Who concert in order to go to World Series games across the street and get loaded.

Ive had bosses threaten that they would want a note, but never actually had one ask me. Pretty pointless as Ive always had relatives that worked for doctors and could get a note saying whatever I want it to.

[walking joint]

i use a sick day every 3-4 weeks on a day i just need to unwind/catch up on things during the day. use them sparingly and no one says shit.

I missed the sparingly part of this...so you use between 13-17 sick days a year. Thats alot of sick time.

I hardly ever use sick time. And if I'm really sick, I'd rather go into work and not get my kids sick.

[Chigworthy]

I missed the sparingly part of this...so you use between 13-17 sick days a year. Thats alot of sick time.

I hardly ever use sick time. And if I'm really sick, I'd rather go into work and not get my kids sick.

Now you've done it. You're bound to be on the business end of a post chiding you for bringing the germs to the office.

[TripleSkeet]

Ill never fault anyone for using off days if they can. I use every sick day Im allowed, especially since they dont carry over. In most companies all that attendance doesnt mean dog shit if they can save a few nickels by getting rid of you. I like week's theory. If you can do it, go out there and enjoy your day every so often while you can.

[SinA]

I think it's fine to take a "mental health" day every once in a while. If it helps you clear your head so that you can perform better, than it's just as valid as any other use of sick-leave. If you go to the track to clear your head, who am I to judge?

On the other hand, vacation is usually planned and approved, and everyone around you knows in advance. When you just call in and say "I'm not coming in today " it has the potential to really screw the people that have to cover for you. That doesn't make it wrong, I'm just saying you should consider that and don't be a dick.

And don't call in sick on a Friday. It's too obvious.

[Sinestro]

Do the Pope or the President of the United States get to call in sick? Do Presidents have sick days? Not that they can go off somewhere and do something like golfing on a sick day without being noticed.

[ryno1974]

1) What the hell is "Calling out"? That makes no sense. It is calling in sick, unless you are literally calling out of your window.

2) Sick days are not days off or for unwinding. They are SICK days. They are for when you are sick.

3) I think I have discovered what happened to the the US economy. Apparently it has been overrun with half assed employees.

Not exactly sure how some of you sleep at night knowing you are stealing a pay cheque and screwing your co-workers over.

[Dude!]

1) What the hell is "Calling out"? That makes no sense. It is calling in sick, unless you are literally calling out of your window.

2) Sick days are not days off or for unwinding. They are SICK days. They are for when you are sick.

3) I think I have discovered what happened to the the US economy. Apparently it has been overrun with half assed employees.

Not exactly sure how some of you sleep at night knowing you are stealing a pay cheque and screwing your co-workers over.

^^ that
except for the calling out part...

it is not that you are calling out... (I'm) sick
it is that you are calling to say... (I'm) out; sick

[Sinestro]

I just wish the managers could take notice of this one lady who constantly takes " sick " days preceding or following vacation/holidays.



So what's you're problem with that? I do that too. Especially when you get jet lag or you're forced to take a later flight.

[ryno1974]

BECAUSE THATS NOT SICK. Its shitty planning. YOU are responsible for planing you flights in accordance with your life, not your employer or co-workers.

[Death Metal Moe]

I've never really had a job where I have sick days. It's usually "Show up, make money, don't show up for whatever reason, don't make money." My last job had sick time but it was like 3 days a year. I used every one of them though. I think all of them were "sanity" days as I came to call them. I just needed to get the fuck away from that place every now and then.

But before that, it was show up or don't make cash. My new job I've been at less than a month and haven't earned the right to have anything like that yet.

As for the question at hand, I agree with most people here that unless you abuse your sick days it should really be no one's business what you do with them. I can see how a company might not like you using your "sick days" for planned time off, but that is up to interpretation by the company's policies.

[Sinestro]

BECAUSE THATS NOT SICK. Its shitty planning. YOU are responsible for planing you flights in accordance with your life, not your employer or co-workers.

You can plan all the flights you want but the airlines decides when to cancel or delay a flight. That never happened to you or anyone else? ex. grounded and re-routed flights when 9/11 happened.

[Barnaby Jones]

BECAUSE THATS NOT SICK. Its shitty planning. YOU are responsible for planing you flights in accordance with your life, not your employer or co-workers.

My sick time doesn't roll over each year, so I'm using it! I've earned it!

[Sinestro]

I wonder what Roni Deutch would say.


Oh wait. She says this: "Hi, I'm Roni Deutch...."

[ryno1974]

You can plan all the flights you want but the airlines decides when to cancel or delay a flight. That never happened to you or anyone else? ex. grounded and re-routed flights when 9/11 happened.

Yeah I can see that being a problem. That 9/11 thing happens all the time.:wacko:

[Dude!]

Yeah I can see that being a problem. That 9/11 thing happens all the time.:wacko:

yeah, Katrina grounded
flights too

lots of people in California
called in sick those days

[boobieman]

I hope Ronnie B gets some sick time..maybe he can borrow some from Fez...


Get better big man...

SSSYYEYAAAAA

[sailor]

BECAUSE THATS NOT SICK. Its shitty planning. YOU are responsible for planing you flights in accordance with your life, not your employer or co-workers.

desynchronosis is a psychological condition and you could probably massage that to fall under the category of illness.

[zentraed]

At my company, we have vacation days based on seniority, 7 personal days (I think. Can't remember), and you can do "Incidental Illness" days that count against your attendance record. I try save up my vacation and personal days and just call in sick from time to time (usually for a good reason though).

3) I think I have discovered what happened to the the US economy. Apparently it has been overrun with half assed employees.

Not exactly sure how some of you sleep at night knowing you are stealing a pay cheque and screwing your co-workers over.

Americans wouldn't do this if we'd catch up with the rest of the industrialized world:

Paid Vacation Around the World

The following table lists nine countries and the average number of paid vacation days per year employees receive in each country.
Italy 42 days
France 37 days
Germany 35 days
Brazil 34 days
United Kingdom 28 days
Canada 26 days
Korea 25 days
Japan 25 days
U.S. 13 days

[Misteriosa]

yeah, Katrina grounded
flights too

lots of people in California
called in sick those days

i was trying to fly back from sao paulo to nyc when katrina happened. my flight was cancelled and i had to call out "sick" from work because i was stuck in brazil past my scheduled vaca time. just sayin...

[TripleSkeet]

1) What the hell is "Calling out"? That makes no sense. It is calling in sick, unless you are literally calling out of your window.

2) Sick days are not days off or for unwinding. They are SICK days. They are for when you are sick.

3) I think I have discovered what happened to the the US economy. Apparently it has been overrun with half assed employees.

Not exactly sure how some of you sleep at night knowing you are stealing a pay cheque and screwing your co-workers over.

1) Its calling OUT. As in I wont be IN. Calling in is just as dumb as saying Im standing ON LINE. When you are IN LINE.

2) Sick days are days off for the employees use. If you can use them and get paid, but dont get paid for them at the end of the year if you dont use them, and dont take advantage of this, you are what is known as a sucker.

3) Fuck that. I refuse to be one of these guys that kills himself working for 50 years just to retire and drop dead 5 years later. I work to live, NOT live to work. So every day I can take off a year, I take it.

Like a baby. Especially after spending the day on the beach instead of sitting at a desk or standing behind a bar at work. I really couldnt give 2 fucks about what effect my day off has on my boss or coworkers.

[Barnaby Jones]

You call in to call out!

[PapaBear]

1) Its calling OUT. As in I wont be IN. Calling in is just as dumb as saying Im standing ON LINE. When you are IN LINE.

2) Sick days are days off for the employees use. If you can use them and get paid, but dont get paid for them at the end of the year if you dont use them, and dont take advantage of this, you are what is known as a sucker.

3) Fuck that. I refuse to be one of these guys that kills himself working for 50 years just to retire and drop dead 5 years later. I work to live, NOT live to work. So every day I can take off a year, I take it.

Like a baby. Especially after spending the day on the beach instead of sitting at a desk or standing behind a bar at work. I really couldnt give 2 fucks about what effect my day off has on my boss or coworkers.
I have to disagree. I prefer to spend the day in the beach.

[TripleSkeet]

I have to disagree. I prefer to spend the day in the beach.

:lol::lol::lol:

[RoseBlood]

Sick days are not days off or for unwinding. They are SICK days. They are for when you are sick.
Such a stickler :dry:

Not exactly sure how some of you sleep at night knowing you are stealing a pay cheque and screwing your co-workers over.
Secretly they may like getting screwed at work. (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100823101110.htm)

[TjM]

FUCK YOU LADY I'M GETTING IN! THE PLANE!

http://www.thecinemaniacs.com/images/GeorgeCarlin.jpg

[Fallon]

You call in to call out!

And you gotta gotta get up to get down!

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[LordJezo]

My place got rid of sick time this year and switched everything to one large paid time off bucket. You get to use 6 of those a year as unplanned time but if you never call out of work you can use them just like any other planned time off.

[Chigworthy]

1) Its calling OUT. As in I wont be IN. Calling in is just as dumb as saying Im standing ON LINE. When you are IN LINE.


Google search "calling out sick": 60,300 results.

Google search "calling in sick": 139,000 results.

But I agree with the in line thing.

[sailor]

And if you leave off the "sick"?

[StanUpshaw]

And if you leave off the "sick"?

Then you'd get results from other, irrelevant contexts.

[sailor]

Wish lleeder was here to start a poll.

[angrymissy]

I was going to take a sick day today because my back is all sorts of fucked up, but that 75% pay made me stop.

Also, since I've been working from home, I take a LOT less sick time. I will work from the couch today.

[TripleSkeet]

I was going to take a sick day today because my back is all sorts of fucked up, but that 75% pay made me stop.

Also, since I've been working from home, I take a LOT less sick time. I will work from the couch today.

Does that even count? If that were always an option for me Id probably never take one.

[angrymissy]

Does that even count? If that were always an option for me Id probably never take one.

Yeah, I almost never take sick days now. I did once when I was puking my guts out, and I did for a week after surgery becuase I was really messed up. Usually when I'm sick now, I set up camp on the couch w/ laptop and cell phone. If I didn't work from home, I would have been out for 6 weeks after surgery. I mention this a lot to my boss as a POSITIVE of letting people telecommute.

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah, I almost never take sick days now. I did once when I was puking my guts out, and I did for a week after surgery becuase I was really messed up. Usually when I'm sick now, I set up camp on the couch w/ laptop and cell phone. If I didn't work from home, I would have been out for 6 weeks after surgery. I mention this a lot to my boss as a POSITIVE of letting people telecommute.

I agree. I can do this with my day job and I never have a problem. Its my night jobs that I have to call out of if Im not feeling up to it.

[CountryBob]

Yeah, I almost never take sick days now. I did once when I was puking my guts out, and I did for a week after surgery becuase I was really messed up. Usually when I'm sick now, I set up camp on the couch w/ laptop and cell phone. If I didn't work from home, I would have been out for 6 weeks after surgery. I mention this a lot to my boss as a POSITIVE of letting people telecommute.

I think that this concept works great. We just shut down 4 offices across the country and transitioned all of the employees to field based. It seems that productivity has increased and a lot less sick days. The only drawback so far has been customer complaints about hearing dogs and children in the background when on the phone with our employees. Just the other day I was onboarding a new employee with an hour presentation when her daughter picked up the phone and yelled at her mom that she wanted to go to the mall - NOW! I had to laugh but stressed to make sure that could never happen again - lucky this happened while talking to me instead of a sponsor.

[angrymissy]

I think that this concept works great. We just shut down 4 offices across the country and transitioned all of the employees to field based. It seems that productivity has increased and a lot less sick days. The only drawback so far has been customer complaints about hearing dogs and children in the background when on the phone with our employees. Just the other day I was onboarding a new employee with an hour presentation when her daughter picked up the phone and yelled at her mom that she wanted to go to the mall - NOW! I had to laugh but stressed to make sure that could never happen again - lucky this happened while talking to me instead of a sponsor.

oof, that's way unprofessional. I don't have a lot of customer contact so it works for me, plus I keep my own office that's far away from the rest of the house. I keep it as professional as possible becuase I would HATE HATE HATE having to work in an office again.

[grlNIN]

I get horrible call out guilt, i feel like my supervisor just knows that i am lying, even when im not-and even when i wake up at 5:30am to call out.

Not exactly sure how some of you sleep at night knowing you are stealing a pay cheque and screwing your co-workers over.

Really well most of the time, because i don't take my part time job so seriously. Now ask me how i spend at least 4hrs of my work day doing homework and emailing professors.

[Death Metal Moe]

People who get mad at others for not actually being sick on days they use a sick day are fucking retards.

So you mean to tell me that the great cosmic consciousness somehow makes a distinction between days I'm out and "faking it" and days I'm out and "really sick?"

How does the job and the circumstances of that day know the difference? It doesn't matter if I was really sick or not that day, point is, I wasn't there. Period. Whatever happened, happened. Whether or not it was a legitimate sickness has absolutely nothing to do with the loss of work, in the least.

To somehow say 3 days out and faking is worse than 3 days out and vomiting into a pan is a very, very stupid thing to try and convince anyone else of. I'd keep idiocy like that to myself. just FYI.

[StanUpshaw]

Ethics r 4 fags, lol

[TripleSkeet]

Work to live, dont live to work.

[TjM]

Well this sucks. Came in with a really nasty head cold. I feel like absolute shit

[conman823]

Work to live, dont live to work.

I work with a lot of guys who think somehow being there 80 hrs a week is some badge of honor. They get pissy when someone calls out or takes vacation time. One guy actually is proud he amassed over 300 personal hours. I just laugh at him and take my 4 weeks every year. My boss hasn't taken a full vacation week in about 3 yrs. The sad part is the company we work at would fire u in an instant if you fucked up. They don't deserve that level of commitment.
I only get universal PTO. So when I take a day I call and say " I won't be in today" if anyone asks for a reason my answer is usually I got stuff to do.

[Gutter]

i have 8 sick days, 2 personal days, and three weeks vacation. the personal days and the vacation time need advanced notice. The sick days, i just have to call in and say, "i'm taking a sick day today and won't be in". the only time i would ever need a doctors note is for 3 or more days i'd be out sick in a row......there is leniency here as well cause basically i think they'd only ask you for a dr's note if they didn't believe you......i was sick earlier this year with strep throat and was out for 4 days without a dr's note......it was pretty obvious that i wasn't kidding when i called in i guess.......but yea, use them shits.....if you don't get compensation for saving them at the end of the year, use em up....and no, its no ones business weather i'm really sick are not.....the days are mine to use when i decide to use them....my bosses understand this too.....everything is cool as long as i don't start going over the 8 days sick.

believe me tho, there a couple of ppl here who have used all their days already and still don't show up at least a few times per month.

[Misteriosa]

ive asked for friday off. ive been covering for a coworker who went on vaca and then got very sick. she's been out 3 weeks instead of just the one and its unknown when she'll return. people here are coming after me for work she was supposed to have done before she left. im burned out and im taking a personal day. if they dont give the day, im calling out sick. i'll have friday off whether they like it or not. fuck them.

[conman823]

I totally don't condone excessive absenteeism. I think if you are entitled to the time then take it. If someone is out of control with their occurrences then the bosses should be getting on them. Have at least some respect for the job and your coworkers.

[TripleSkeet]

I work with a lot of guys who think somehow being there 80 hrs a week is some badge of honor. They get pissy when someone calls out or takes vacation time. One guy actually is proud he amassed over 300 personal hours.

Yea I know people like that. I never understood that. At my other job you would get 1 week vacation but if you wanted any more days off you could have them if you got someone to cover your shift. I remember having a conversation at work with a guy that was like "I havent used a call out or subbed out a shift in 3 years" and he was saying it with such pride. I responded "Well in the last 3 years Ive been to , Italy, South Padre Island, Fort Lauderdale, Cancun, Vegas twice, and the Florida Keys 3 times. But you have fun with all that work."

About 3 months later he got fired for leaving after work without having a manager walk him off. He had been done for an hour (It was 2am), couldnt find a manager and had to get home because he had work in the morning. The next day he came in, they let him set up the whole bar then told him he was fired for not getting walked off. Thats where all that loyalty got him.

[conman823]

About 3 months later he got fired for leaving after work without having a manager walk him off. He had been done for an hour (It was 2am), couldnt find a manager and had to get home because he had work in the morning. The next day he came in, they let him set up the whole bar then told him he was fired for not getting walked off. Thats where all that loyalty got him.

Yeah thats what I remind these guys at my place. Your only as good as your last fuck up. I respect the job because it pays my bills and affords me a comfortable lifestyle. Ultimately I know I'm expendable and easily replaced.