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booster11373
09-02-2010, 11:23 AM
Here is an example of the kind of questions I'm being asked in a college level economics class

If a warming planet threatens the food supply for wolves, which thrive in very cold weather. How much would you be willing to pay in gasoline taxes, per gallon of gasoline, in order to increase the probability that wolves - and other species - do not become extinct over time?

Seriously?

SinA
09-02-2010, 11:24 AM
Here is an example of the kind of questions I'm being asked in a college level economics class

If a warming planet threatens the food supply for wolves, which thrive in very cold weather. How much would you be willing to pay in gasoline taxes, per gallon of gasoline, in order to increase the probability that wolves - and other species - do not become extinct over time?

Seriously?

Fuck that guy.

LordJezo
09-02-2010, 11:26 AM
Here is an example of the kind of questions I'm being asked in a college level economics class

If a warming planet threatens the food supply for wolves, which thrive in very cold weather. How much would you be willing to pay in gasoline taxes, per gallon of gasoline, in order to increase the probability that wolves - and other species - do not become extinct over time?

Seriously?

Sounds reasonable enough. Also it sounds refreshing that some clear thinkers exist in a field dominated by hard left Al Gore types who fail any student they discover is not a pure Obama democrat.

Higher education is a dangerous world for those who do not conform to liberal servitude.

booster11373
09-02-2010, 11:28 AM
The guy is also a complete unethical douchebag

We are required to buy the book that he wrote for class of which he assigns home work from. The only way he will accept the homework is if the pages the questions are on, are torn from the book accompanying our answers to said question. We have to destroy the sell back value of the book no copies of the pages accepted.

Every semester he will profit from all new books having to be bought for his class

LordJezo
09-02-2010, 11:32 AM
The guy is also a complete unethical douchebag

yet professors who go on angry anti bush rants and talks about how great the left is are considered heroes of academia.

although that ripping up the page thing is a really dick thing to do. even i can't accept that. has anyone considered trying to get him up on ethical charges for that? its bullshit.

booster11373
09-02-2010, 11:41 AM
Here is another question directly out of his book

It is fairly safe to say that some Americans did not vote for Barrack Obama because he had a black father and white mother, It is also possible to say that some Americans votes for John McCain because he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, is it rational or irrational for people to vote this way? why or why not?

Willmore
09-02-2010, 11:44 AM
Here is another question directly out of his book

It is fairly safe to say that some Americans did not vote for Barrack Obama because he had a black father and white mother, It is also possible to say that some Americans votes for John McCain because he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, is it rational or irrational for people to vote this way? why or why not?

What's the right answer? Teach me economics, not PoliSci, you douchebag?

HBox
09-02-2010, 11:50 AM
I had a professor who made us buy his book for a course. A few differences: 1. It was a writing class 2. It was a $7.99 paperback 3. He didn't make us destroy the book. 4. As we read through it he explained the process of him writing it, which was amazingly illuminating. 5. He wasn't some unethical, douchebag forcing his beliefs on everyone tea-bagging sone of a bitch. He was actually a staunch environmentalist and a member of the World Wildlife Fund, a fact I didn't know until I had taken 4 of his courses because he was actually teached and didn't take advantage of a captive audience to vomit his beliefs out.

A serious suggestion: If this guy doesn't have tenure just complain as much as you can to his superiors about the book shenanigans. Having to buy a book written by your professor is not uncommon but forcing you to destroy it for no reason is fucking ridiculous.

SinA
09-02-2010, 11:54 AM
That professor has shit-for-brains because he has his head packed all the way up his own ass. The question is both leading and MIS-leading, and offensively oversimplifies a complex issue, and the conclusion doesn't follow from the premise.

I got one you can ask him.
If abortion is immoral, and mentally-handicapped children are a blessing from God, then giving birth to a retarded baby is a victory of good over evil. Does that make Trig Palin the return of the Lord Jesus Christ as prophesied in the Book of Revelation?

booster11373
09-02-2010, 11:56 AM
I had a professor who made us buy his book for a course. A few differences: 1. It was a writing class 2. It was a $7.99 paperback 3. He didn't make us destroy the book. 4. As we read through it he explained the process of him writing it, which was amazingly illuminating. 5. He wasn't some unethical, douchebag forcing his beliefs on everyone tea-bagging sone of a bitch. He was actually a staunch environmentalist and a member of the World Wildlife Fund, a fact I didn't know until I had taken 4 of his courses because he was actually teached and didn't take advantage of a captive audience to vomit his beliefs out.

A serious suggestion: If this guy doesn't have tenure just complain as much as you can to his superiors about the book shenanigans. Having to buy a book written by your professor is not uncommon but forcing you to destroy it for no reason is fucking ridiculous.

I raised some shit about this already and Im really just using this thread to vent because I was pretty much told that nothing was going to happen.

But I plan on raising some big shit at the end of the semester

Misteriosa
09-02-2010, 11:57 AM
I raised some shit about this already and Im really just using this thread to vent because I was pretty much told that nothing was going to happen.

But I plan on raising some big shit at the end of the semester

they used to have us fill out anonymous surveys about the teachers at the end of each semster. does your school do the same?

Furtherman
09-02-2010, 11:58 AM
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booster11373
09-02-2010, 12:00 PM
they used to have us fill out anonymous surveys about the teachers at the end of each semster. does your school do the same?

We do this its called SPOTS, Students perception of teaching

The book by the way costs $120 a pop

Misteriosa
09-02-2010, 12:03 PM
We do this its called SPOTS, Students perception of teaching

i know that our surveys had the power to keep a teacher on for the next year. do yours have the same effect? the teachers know they are not supposed to use the class as a pulpit for politcal discourse (if its not a poli-sci class). does your school have the same policy? if this continues and whomever you first gave your complaints to doesnt produce any results, take it up to the next level, etc etc.

KatPw
09-02-2010, 12:09 PM
How far along is the semester? If it's still early enough, drop the class and take it with another professor.

booster11373
09-02-2010, 12:09 PM
i know that our surveys had the power to keep a teacher on for the next year. do yours have the same effect? the teachers know they are not supposed to use the class as a pulpit for politcal discourse (if its not a poli-sci class). does your school have the same policy? if this continues and whomever you first gave your complaints to doesnt produce any results, take it up to the next level, etc etc.

Nothing will happen the guys been there for years, decades, which also shows to some degree what his department thinks of him. A senior econ prof teaching a survey class to non- business major students? that says alot

booster11373
09-02-2010, 12:11 PM
How far along is the semester? If it's still early enough, drop the class and take it with another professor.

16 weeks, cant drop if I still want to graduate in May

I cant take this guy I just to tell what kind of a dick he is to everyone who will listen

Plus Im going to be a teacher when I graduate so I use his class as a great model of how not to teach

KatPw
09-02-2010, 12:13 PM
16 weeks, cant drop if I still want to graduate in May

I cant take this guy I just to tell what kind of a dick he is to everyone who will listen

Plus Im going to be a teacher when I graduate so I use his class as a great model of how not to teach

Raise serious hell once you have that diploma in hand. Shit teachers are a waste of space and currency.

SinA
09-02-2010, 12:32 PM
The guy is also a complete unethical douchebag

We are required to buy the book that he wrote for class of which he assigns home work from. The only way he will accept the homework is if the pages the questions are on, are torn from the book accompanying our answers to said question. We have to destroy the sell back value of the book no copies of the pages accepted.

Every semester he will profit from all new books having to be bought for his class

seriously, i don't think he can legitimately dock points if you turned in a xerox copy. although, you've probably torn out a few pages by now, so you SOL now.

Devo37
09-02-2010, 01:20 PM
professor sounds like an ass, but what does any of this have to do with the Tea Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement)?????????? :huh:

brettmojo
09-02-2010, 01:21 PM
professor sounds like an ass, but what does any of this have to do with the Tea Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement)?????????? :huh:


Sounding like an ass... Tea party...

Answered your own question.

zentraed
09-02-2010, 01:32 PM
What's the name of the textbook, and what's the title of the course? Based on the two questions earlier, it sounds like a micro econ course of some type.

sailor
09-02-2010, 01:36 PM
i don't see a problem with the first question, possibly a bit with the 2nd one. the book move is obviously dick.

Suspect Chin
09-02-2010, 01:45 PM
So there is a conservative professor, how is this so much worse than all the liberal bias amongst professors at American colleges?

Also, how is the book thing different than forcing students to buy the new edition of a textbook every year? Sure, you can buy the old edition, but every professor I had managed to teach something from whatever is in the new edition to put those who bought the old edition at a disadvantage.

booster11373
09-02-2010, 01:54 PM
professor sounds like an ass, but what does any of this have to do with the Tea Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement)?????????? :huh:



He expresses sympathy with the views of the tea party in class

Serpico1103
09-02-2010, 01:56 PM
If a warming planet threatens the food supply for wolves, which thrive in very cold weather. How much would you be willing to pay in gasoline taxes, per gallon of gasoline, in order to increase the probability that wolves - and other species - do not become extinct over time?

Seriously?

What other species? Us? Poor attempt at being thought provoking.

Here is another question directly out of his book

It is fairly safe to say that some Americans did not vote for Barrack Obama because he had a black father and white mother, It is also possible to say that some Americans votes for John McCain because he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, is it rational or irrational for people to vote this way? why or why not?

Is my safety at risk? Does he mean reasonable? Define "some Americans." I hope people voted either for or against McCain partially due to Palin.

Rational to vote based on race or running mate? Where is the connection?

He might be trying to do something worthwhile, but failing at it miserably.

Judge Smails
09-02-2010, 02:07 PM
South Park did it!

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081121003245/southpark/images/thumb/e/ea/Profteabag.png/125px-Profteabag.png

Devo37
09-02-2010, 02:09 PM
He expresses sympathy with the views of the tea party in class

then aside from being an overall ass, he seems quite confused. the Tea Party leans more towards "keep the government out of my wallet" than "let's pay more taxes to save wolves".

Syd
09-02-2010, 02:35 PM
You should have countered his question with how much would you be willing to pay now in order to use less of a finite resource in the future.

Whether you believe in global warming or not, it is in our best interest to seriously kerb our fossil fuel use. Just like beachfront property, they ain't making any new oil or coal.

StanUpshaw
09-02-2010, 03:16 PM
He expresses sympathy with the views of the tea party in class

So in other words, he's an economist.

booster11373
09-02-2010, 03:45 PM
So in other words, he's an economist.

No douchbag is a better fit

epo
09-02-2010, 03:48 PM
Here is an example of the kind of questions I'm being asked in a college level economics class

If a warming planet threatens the food supply for wolves, which thrive in very cold weather. How much would you be willing to pay in gasoline taxes, per gallon of gasoline, in order to increase the probability that wolves - and other species - do not become extinct over time?

Seriously?

Here is another question directly out of his book

It is fairly safe to say that some Americans did not vote for Barrack Obama because he had a black father and white mother, It is also possible to say that some Americans votes for John McCain because he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, is it rational or irrational for people to vote this way? why or why not?

My problem is that neither of those are truly economics questions.

Devo37
09-02-2010, 03:49 PM
You should have countered his question with how much would you be willing to pay now in order to use less of a finite resource in the future.

Whether you believe in global warming or not, it is in our best interest to seriously kerb our fossil fuel use. Just like beachfront property, they ain't making any new oil or coal.

between overpopulation, fuel needs, and food/water needs, we're all pretty f^cked within the next 50 years anyways...

so enjoy it while it lasts! :drunk::smoke:

sailor
09-02-2010, 03:56 PM
My problem is that neither of those are truly economics questions.

that's why i had a problem with the 2nd one. i disagree on your assessment of the first.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-02-2010, 04:45 PM
Can I make a bet that he wont be teaching Keynesian Economics?


It sounds like the course he is teaching is more of an Econometrics class which uses probables, statistics etc.

booster11373
09-02-2010, 04:51 PM
I will post other questions over time I just dont want to type a whole bunch right now

KC2OSO
09-02-2010, 05:06 PM
then aside from being an overall ass, he seems quite confused. the Tea Party leans more towards "keep the government out of my wallet" than "let's pay more taxes to save wolves".


:blink: I've been reading this thread scratching my head about the same point.

brettmojo
09-02-2010, 05:20 PM
:blink: I've been reading this thread scratching my head about the same point.
Maybe he's just an idiot.

Recyclerz
09-02-2010, 07:49 PM
i don't see a problem with the first question, possibly a bit with the 2nd one. the book move is obviously dick.

I agree with Sailor. The first is pretty standard fare -limited resources and how to put them to use for maximum utility. The second could be a foray into the now popular field of behavioral economics which disproves the old-school premise that people make rational economic decisions.

The book thing is definitely an abuse of power. Take it up with the school administration AFTER you pass the course. I remember one time I was taking a Poli Sci class with a professor with a Bob Grant-like view of the world. One time he served up a particularly weak idea and I, being a commie-symp, snarkily tossed back an observation that kind of blew his point out of the water (at least I thought so). The look of death I got was enough for me to pussy out and keep my mouth shut for the rest of the semester.

Of course that was a long time ago.. :down:

keithy_19
09-02-2010, 08:27 PM
I hated when I had liberal professors who made us sit and listen to their political rants, while teaching us little if anything on the subject at hand.

This is the same. I don't care if your spewing out rhetoric I agree with, teach the course.

I had a history class, American History and it was the best class I have ever had in my life. The professor definately had a liberal bias when he spoke about things, but he also brought the other side into it and never shot anyone down for their views. And he was a really good teacher. The class was receptive to it and we had discussions, not debates, about our opposing views.

PapaBear
09-02-2010, 08:31 PM
I had a Liberal government teacher in HS that taught that Kennedy was assassinated by more than one shooter as FACT. She worked for the Democratic election committee in the Watergate, when it was broken into.

angrytruckingguy
09-02-2010, 11:18 PM
could u give the title and writer please?

PapaBear
09-02-2010, 11:33 PM
could u give the title and writer please?
Sounds like somebody is ANGRY!

booster11373
09-03-2010, 04:25 AM
could u give the title and writer please?

No, I will give no ID until I am out of the class

A.J.
09-03-2010, 04:33 AM
Here is an example of the kind of questions I'm being asked in a college level economics class

If a warming planet threatens the food supply for wolves, which thrive in very cold weather. How much would you be willing to pay in gasoline taxes, per gallon of gasoline, in order to increase the probability that wolves - and other species - do not become extinct over time?

Seriously?

I'd do whatever I could to protect the inspiration of the wolf shirt.

Suspect Chin
09-04-2010, 06:13 AM
Again I ask, how is his rip-out book that much different from releasing a new edition of a book every year?

The new edition book is not as bad as the rip-out book but the new edition gimmick is bullshit too.

sailor
09-04-2010, 06:25 AM
Yeah, the bullshit of a publisher trying to make money from publishing books.

booster11373
09-04-2010, 07:02 AM
Again I ask, how is his rip-out book that much different from releasing a new edition of a book every year?

The new edition book is not as bad as the rip-out book but the new edition gimmick is bullshit too.

The dont do a new edition every year but close maybe every 2 years not much difference but still

Also a few of my prof. dont care which edition book you have because there isnt much difference between edition 3 and 4

Also the are differing levels some prof recommend, some require

Finally some book company's offer digital version of books which are cheaper and text book rental is a new way to save some money

This book is only available brand new, cant be rented , no digital copy

He wrote it want us to destroy it to prove that we own it, i probably should just have gave him what ever the royalty amount he gets from the publisher in cash it would have been cheaper

KatPw
09-04-2010, 07:46 AM
Again I ask, how is his rip-out book that much different from releasing a new edition of a book every year?

The new edition book is not as bad as the rip-out book but the new edition gimmick is bullshit too.

The bullshit lies in the fact that even if a new edition is released every year you still stand a chance of re-selling an older textbook (either to another student, back to the school store, or over the internet). I have had professors specifically require an older edition of a textbook because for whatever reason they did not like the latest edition. I also know many people that will buy textbooks pertaining to their field so as to have updated reference tools. These people don't necessarily want the latest edition because they don't need it for a class, so a past year's edition is fine ( I always keep a slightly outdated PDR in my house for quick referencing medications).

But to require that the book be essentially destroyed each semester is bullshit. What if the student wanted to keep the book for themselves? They would have to buy another book. That to me seems worse than the new edition gimmick.

TooCute
09-05-2010, 08:49 AM
What about the people who can't afford the book? I mean, that's why you have the library with copies of textbooks on reserve right?

Definitely complain. At this point in the game it's a little late - you should have done it at the beginning of the semester - but it's still totally unethical and unacceptable.

Also, are you copying his questions word for word? Because that's some pretty atrocious grammar if you are....

Snoogans
09-05-2010, 08:52 AM
The guy is also a complete unethical douchebag

We are required to buy the book that he wrote for class of which he assigns home work from. The only way he will accept the homework is if the pages the questions are on, are torn from the book accompanying our answers to said question. We have to destroy the sell back value of the book no copies of the pages accepted.

Every semester he will profit from all new books having to be bought for his class
this guy fuckin rules