Steve C. is gone from o&a :(

[jimmyolsenblues]

First time poster...

Steve C is no longer part of the show.

Make of it what you will.

Posted to his Facebook:

"Ha. I guess it wasn't very cryptic at all. The company terminated my position. I was not replaced. While I'm not thrilled, it was as amicable a departure as could be. I have spoken to all of the guys since, and everyone was very kind. I have received some very encouraging calls from a lot of people who I've worked with over the years, and everyone is being quite helpful and supportive. No bad blood at all. Through all the bickering, that group was my family for the better part of 12 years."

Posted on his Twitter:

The ride was a lot of fun for a lot of years. However, it's time to get off the ride and move on to another. Cryptic enough? about 2 hours ago (http://twitter.com/foundrymusic/status/23179532702) via HootSuite (http://www.hootsuite.com/)

Proceed to speculation!


copied from wackbag...sorry for the source but the data is true

[Tenbatsuzen]

That... that's terrible. I'm sorry. How did your radio career die?

[Dirtbag]

I can't believe it took this long.

[Recyclerz]

I haven't been following the O&A show very closely of late. Any ideas as to whether this was O and/or A's doing (ie he lost favor with the Boys - a la Ben) or whether this is a sign that the whole show is headed for the door at Mel's behest?

[Pitdoc]

I haven't been following the O&A show very closely of late. Any ideas as to whether this was O and/or A's doing (ie he lost favor with the Boys - a la Ben) or whether this is a sign that the whole show is headed for the door at Mel's behest?

I know that the guys were pissed as hell that Steve forced them to buy back their own videos from O& A .com; about 50K or something. I got the vibe then that Opie would eventually have his revenge.

[Death Metal Moe]

I haven't listened to O&A in months at this point, have they been hinting at anything on air?

I always liked Steve and thought he was a very good sport about a lot of things. He took a lot of abuse. He was also douchey from time to time so it's not like he didn't deserve it. Ultimately I think it's a bad thing for the show.

Also, if someone on Wackbag was correct and this means a promotion for Danny and/or more air time for him, that would be detrimental to the O&A show.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Also, if someone on Wackbag was correct and this means a promotion for Danny and/or more air time for him, that would be detrimental to the O&A show.

No, it doesn't. Steve said he wasn't replaced. See: McDonald, Dave on R&F. Now it's just Pepper.

[whiskyriver]

Should have offered Steve a job with Ron and Fez......seems like Pepper is going to take it in the ass till he quits. Fucking crazy they have let Pepper work solo for this long.

[Chigworthy]

Get the fuck out, NOW!

I can only hope this means the end of the F.U. line.

[Chigworthy]

Should have offered Steve a job with Ron and Fez......seems like Pepper is going to take it in the ass till he quits. Fucking crazy they have let Pepper work solo for this long.

Who should have? And why would they when they are liquidating a channel?

[Death Metal Moe]

No, it doesn't. Steve said he wasn't replaced. See: McDonald, Dave on R&F. Now it's just Pepper.

Well one of them is going to have to step into an roll of increased importance to take up the slack of Steve being gone. Unless Steve actually did nothing, which we all know is just on air bullshit, there's going to be responsibilities he fulfilled that need to be picked up.

[badorties]

I haven't listened to O&A in months at this point, have they been hinting at anything on air?

I always liked Steve and thought he was a very good sport about a lot of things. He took a lot of abuse. He was also douchey from time to time so it's not like he didn't deserve it. Ultimately I think it's a bad thing for the show.

Also, if someone on Wackbag was correct and this means a promotion for Danny and/or more air time for him, that would be detrimental to the O&A show.

there's been some issues with guest prep and other logistics

it seems each 202 show could use a real effective, office-manager like production team that allows the talent to thrive

[Fallon]

That... that's terrible. I'm sorry. How did your radio career die?

Sirius XM: "Steve, get the fuck out.. now."

[hatemeimirish]

O&A 5 or so producers.
R&F 1 producer.
Wish SiriusXM would spread the wealth.

In fairness i'm sorry to see Steve go.

[brettmojo]

What's my problem? YOU ELIMINATED MY FUCKING JOB!

I think this just goes to show the spaghetti is on the wall.

[TripleSkeet]

there's been some issues with guest prep and other logistics

it seems each 202 show could use a real effective, office-manager like production team that allows the talent to thrive

That would actually cost money, so dont expect to see it happen.

Job elimination? Sounds like more typical Sirius corporate cost cutting to me. Maybe Howard isnt planning on retiring so they are trying to scrounge up the money to re-sign him by cannibalizing 202.

[midwestjeff]

Looks like the pendulum is swinging back the other way.

[PapaBear]

That would actually cost money, so dont expect to see it happen.

Job elimination? Sounds like more typical Sirius corporate cost cutting to me. Maybe Howard isnt planning on retiring so they are trying to scrounge up the money to re-sign him by cannibalizing 202.
I thought he already said he wasn't coming back the other day. Plus, Lazlow touched on that last week, I think. When he mentioned how Sirius was going to have a lot more money freed up in the next quarter.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://netrightdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Toyota-Prius-Accident.jpg

[FatassTitePants]

That would actually cost money, so dont expect to see it happen.

Job elimination? Sounds like more typical Sirius corporate cost cutting to me. Maybe Howard isnt planning on retiring so they are trying to scrounge up the money to re-sign him by cannibalizing 202.

I've never been able to remotely comprehend this. $100,000,000 a YEAR to Stern and yet they cant come up with $30 grand or so due to cost issues for Dave who was extremely valuable to 202. So, Ron and Fez have managed to continue to put on the same show after eliminating 40% of the staff and Stern is sniffing for a few hundred more million. How the hell does that kind of expense pay off for Sirius?

[FromUndaCheese]

I've never been able to remotely comprehend this. $100,000,000 a YEAR to Stern and yet they cant come up with $30 grand or so due to cost issues for Dave who was extremely valuable to 202. So, Ron and Fez have managed to continue to put on the same show after eliminating 40% of the staff and Stern is sniffing for a few hundred more million. How the hell does that kind of expense pay off for Sirius?

Sirius is a bunch of scumbags. Its actually pretty simple.

[Goatweed]

"Good Luck, Bro!"

[StanUpshaw]

I've never been able to remotely comprehend this. $100,000,000 a YEAR to Stern and yet they cant come up with $30 grand or so due to cost issues for Dave who was extremely valuable to 202. So, Ron and Fez have managed to continue to put on the same show after eliminating 40% of the staff and Stern is sniffing for a few hundred more million. How the hell does that kind of expense pay off for Sirius?

Remember that they had around a 600,000 subscribers before they signed Stern. At the end of 2006, they had six million. The figure that Mel always tossed around was that an increase of 1 million subs would justify their gamble.

And lets not forget that the estimated $500 mil included stock, which was worth 7.5x more at the time.

[Tenbatsuzen]

RADIO is a bunch of scumbags. Its actually pretty simple.

Fixed.

[FatassTitePants]

Remember that they had around a 600,000 subscribers before they signed Stern. At the end of 2006, they had six million. The figure that Mel always tossed around was that an increase of 1 million subs would justify their gamble.

And lets not forget that the estimated $500 mil included stock, which was worth 7.5x more at the time.

I get that argument (although so many numbers have been thrown around, I have no idea what the truth is)
But what I mean is it seems they throw hundreds of millions of dollars at celebraties to use their names (ie Oprah) and yet, seem intent on saving pennies in other areas. I understand the name Dave McDonald doesnt bring in subs, but the savings in his salary wouldnt pay even an hour of one of these major salaries...So why do they seem so intent on injuring these other programs? They may not be the biggest on the platform, but still have significant followings.

[underdog]

Remember that they had around a 600,000 subscribers before they signed Stern. At the end of 2006, they had six million. The figure that Mel always tossed around was that an increase of 1 million subs would justify their gamble.

And lets not forget that the estimated $500 mil included stock, which was worth 7.5x more at the time.

I thought the stock was on top of the $500mil?

And the $500mil was for his entire setup, including staff.

[StanUpshaw]

I thought the stock was on top of the $500mil?

And the $500mil was for his entire setup, including staff.

I found this article (http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/05/news/newsmakers/stern/) that says that at least this one enormous payment was always part of the deal, but that subsequent bonuses are a possibility.

Howard Stern & Co. score $200M payout
Lump payment in stock comes as Sirius Satellite Radio exceeds subscriber targets.
January 5, 2006: 12:28 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Radio personality Howard Stern is starting to cash in on the back of higher-than-expected subscriptions at his new home, Sirius Satellite Radio.

The company will issue Stern and his agent 34,375,000 shares of Sirius common stock on Jan. 9 as part of a previous agreement to issue the stock when the satellite radio provider exceeded certain subscriber targets, Sirius spokesman Patrick Reilly said.

Sirius (Research) shares closed at $6.36 Wednesday on Nasdaq, making the lump payout worth roughly $218,625,000.

Sirius didn't say how much would go to Stern and how much would go to his agent Don Buchwald.

Sirius said it added roughly 2.2 million subscribers in 2005, a 190 percent increase from 2004. The station now has 3,316,560 subscribers and hopes to exceed 6 million by the end of 2006, according to a company statement.

Reilly said Stern's payout does not represent an additional stock payout to his previously announced compensation package of roughly $100 million a year for five years.

He said Stern was always guaranteed the shares, but Stern could have had to wait until Dec. 2010 unless Sirius exceeded its subscriber targets in a given year.

But Reilly said Stern could receive additional shares in the future if subscriber targets continue to be surpassed.

Stern inked a deal with Sirius early in 2005 while he was at broadcaster Viacom (Research) and under fire from regulators for the content of his show, which some consider lewd.

But his contract with Sirius didn't start until Jan. 1, 2006, and Stern ran into trouble with Viacom throughout 2005 for promoting Sirius and his switch to satellite radio.

Stern is scheduled to appear on CNN's Larry King Live at 9 p.m. ET Thursday night.

[TripleSkeet]

Werent they in the red a ton before the merger? If he was bringing in so much money why were they in such bad shape financially???

I wish the boring old jew would just retire already. Maybe then the suits will throw a couple of bucks to the shows that are still entertaining.

[StanUpshaw]

Neither XM, Sirius or SiriusXM have ever had a profitable year.

Stern had the single biggest effect on the industry that they ever had seen or probably ever will see. It's just that this is a tough motherfucking industry. Besides convincing people to pay for what they used to get for free, there are insane operating costs -- most notably launching shit into space.

[TripleSkeet]

Neither XM, Sirius or SiriusXM have ever had a profitable year.

Um ok...well then I guess Mel didnt know what he was talking about then. If Stern needed to bring in 1 million subs to justify $500 million, and he actually brought in 5 1/2 million, then they saved 2 1/4 billion dollars in talent investment, correct?

[StanUpshaw]

Um ok...well then I guess Mel didnt know what he was talking about then. If Stern needed to bring in 1 million subs to justify $500 million, and he actually brought in 5 1/2 million, then they saved 2 1/4 billion dollars in talent investment, correct?

The 1 million subs was the break-even point for the investment in Howard Stern, not that they'd magically be in the black after that.

[TripleSkeet]

The 1 million subs was the break-even point for the investment in Howard Stern, not that they'd magically be in the black after that.

Ok well if 4 1/2 million more subs then what was needed to break even doesnt put them in the black then nothing would and they shouldnt have even started the company. Either its impossible to turn a profit or they couldnt manage a fucking lemonade stand.

[StanUpshaw]

Well, that's where the merger comes in. Combine the two subscriber blocs and eliminate redundancies, then ride the wave of the automotive bailout, and you might end up making some profit.

Then they can focus on chipping away at the $3 billion in debt they've piled up.

[sailor]

first, there's no telling how much of that growth was attributable to howard and how much of it was identical to the growth pattern of xm, just delayed a few years (plus they never made up the gap in subs between them and xm).

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/subscribers-sirius-xm.gif

2nd, it's not uncommon for companies to operate in the red for years after start-up, especially where they need to lay out tons of money (satellites, for one thing), but it's getting to the point it may well be too late for them to turn it all around. look at amazon, they lost money for years and years, spending on infrastructure, et al. but when they finally turned the corner, things couldn't have gone better for them.

[UnknownPD]

That... that's terrible. I'm sorry. How did your radio career die?

Nobody better to answer that question than you

[Furtherman]

Perhaps he was unbearable.

[Earlshog]

ni ni ni ni ni ni no

[NewYorkDragons80]

I've never been able to remotely comprehend this. $100,000,000 a YEAR to Stern and yet they cant come up with $30 grand or so due to cost issues for Dave who was extremely valuable to 202. So, Ron and Fez have managed to continue to put on the same show after eliminating 40% of the staff and Stern is sniffing for a few hundred more million. How the hell does that kind of expense pay off for Sirius?

I'm not trying to shit on Earl or pretend that on-air stuff is real, but at the time of his resignation, wasn't Earl making or close to making what Dave was asking for? Or was that a bit?

[FatassTitePants]

I'm not trying to shit on Earl or pretend that on-air stuff is real, but at the time of his resignation, wasn't Earl making or close to making what Dave was asking for? Or was that a bit?

That's what I thought too. For some reason, I was under the impression Earl made in the 60G range and Dave was about half that. So they get rid of Earl's salary, dump the work on the other 2, and nobody gets a bump.

Although I dont know when Pepper started to get paid.

[realmenhatelife]

That's what I thought too. For some reason, I was under the impression Earl made in the 60G range and Dave was about half that. So they get rid of Earl's salary, dump the work on the other 2, and nobody gets a bump.

Although I dont know when Pepper started to get paid.

I dont think Pepper gets shit, they've indicated as much.

[oPant]

They eliminated his position. Meaning he didn't do anything that they needed him for.

[disneyspy]

I dont think Pepper gets shit, they've indicated as much.

i cant believe our twitter campaign didnt get him a raise

[sailor]

At least try to see if a dupe thread exists.

[oPant]

I haven't listened to O&A in months at this point, have they been hinting at anything on air?

.

I agree about OnA being mad about they having to buy back their videos from Foundry. I know that Opie holds a grudge and I'm surprised that they didn't earlier say that they wouldn't work with him. If I was OnA (back then) I would have paid him a penny and told him he could keep his job.

Also he has been taking Mondays off for many months now to use up his free days. Maybe they told him to use them up before he lost them, so maybe he knew that something was up.

Another rumor is that he quit because Sirius closed up the glory holes int he bathroom. :devil2:

[Sue_Bender]

I agree about OnA being mad about they having to buy back their videos from Foundry. I know that Opie holds a grudge and I'm surprised that they didn't earlier say that they wouldn't work with him. If I was OnA (back then) I would have paid him a penny and told him he could keep his job.

Also he has been taking Mondays off for many months now to use up his free days. Maybe they told him to use them up before he lost them, so maybe he knew that something was up.

Another rumor is that he quit because Sirius closed up the glory holes int he bathroom. :devil2:

Well, that sums it up.

[Space Edge]

I agree about OnA being mad about they having to buy back their videos from Foundry. I know that Opie holds a grudge and I'm surprised that they didn't earlier say that they wouldn't work with him. If I was OnA (back then) I would have paid him a penny and told him he could keep his job.

Also he has been taking Mondays off for many months now to use up his free days. Maybe they told him to use them up before he lost them, so maybe he knew that something was up.

Another rumor is that he quit because Sirius closed up the glory holes int he bathroom. :devil2:

Steve's first mistake was hosting all those videos and operating a website for them. Look at where they are at now with their great website and all the fresh content the fill it up with, oh wait.......

The O&A mantra must be have someone do it for us for free so that way we don't have to worry about it. If nobody does it for us we will just pretend it dosen't exist.

It's extremely laughable to claim your the biggest radio show on the platform and not have a functioning website. People with shitty podcasts that have no listeners have functioning websites.

[Sue_Bender]

Steve's first mistake was hosting all those videos and operating a website for them. Look at where they are at now with their great website and all the fresh content the fill it up with, oh wait.......

The O&A mantra must be have someone do it for us for free so that way we don't have to worry about it. If nobody does it for us we will just pretend it dosen't exist.

It's extremely laughable to claim your the biggest radio show on the platform and not have a functioning website. People with shitty podcasts that have no listeners have functioning websites.

I've always wondered about the lack of interest (from the personalities) in having suitably official websites for the O&A and R&F.

A home base for everything that occurs on the shows.

So very odd.

Oh, and it's especially weird knowing that Stars Too (XM 139) is replaying R&F every morning 6-11am.

Are they bringing new people in with these replays?

[oPant]

It's extremely laughable to claim your the biggest radio show on the platform and not have a functioning website. People with shitty podcasts that have no listeners have functioning websites.


Even Howard has a shitty website that takes hours to post a photo or crashes when a few hundred people go on at the same time.

[Fillmore Slim]

I agree about OnA being mad about they having to buy back their videos from Foundry. I know that Opie holds a grudge and I'm surprised that they didn't earlier say that they wouldn't work with him. If I was OnA (back then) I would have paid him a penny and told him he could keep his job.

Also he has been taking Mondays off for many months now to use up his free days. Maybe they told him to use them up before he lost them, so maybe he knew that something was up.

Another rumor is that he quit because Sirius closed up the glory holes int he bathroom. :devil2:

The whole video archive argument gets so blown out of proportion by dummies who parrot everything OnA say.

Steve collected that material on his own and payed for all of it out of his own pocket. That's why everything had the foundry logo on it. If you had been archiving material for over a decade and someone wanted it from you I assume you would expect to be compensated for it as well. If not you're a dummy.

As for the days off, he earned all of those days off and passed up off days in the past to work. Other people on staff are doing the same thing but you don't hear a word about it on air. If they don't use the days they lose them.

[TjM]

That would actually cost money, so dont expect to see it happen.

Job elimination? Sounds like more typical Sirius corporate cost cutting to me. Maybe Howard isnt planning on retiring so they are trying to scrounge up the money to re-sign him by cannibalizing 202.

Doesn't sound like Howie plans on retiring

Tuesday's Stern show

Howard lashed out at SiriusXM's contract negotiation technique: "I'm being treated like one of the music channels, the way I'm being handled." Howard promised to turn to other technologies if he was not satisfied: "I'm not shy. I know the environment. And the one thing I don't respond well to is humiliation...I've suffered enough in this business."
Howard said SiriusXM wouldn't exist if he had never signed with Sirius: "They never dreamed of a merger. They just dreamed of staying in business. I dreamed of a merger." In addition to talking about doing his own thing on the Internet, Howard also considered retirement: "Who knows. Maybe I'll go stare at a wall."

[Space Edge]

I've always wondered about the lack of interest (from the personalities) in having suitably official websites for the O&A and R&F.

A home base for everything that occurs on the shows.

So very odd.

Oh, and it's especially weird knowing that Stars Too (XM 139) is replaying R&F every morning 6-11am.

Are they bringing new people in with these replays?
Stars Too started replaying various shows in the morning when the morning guy they had quit a few months ago. Both O&A, Jason Ellis and Ron & Fez have spent some time in that morning slot. It's not permanent it's to get people who have Sirius to get interested in 202 and then buy the best of Sirius package.

Even Howard has a shitty website that takes hours to post a photo or crashes when a few hundred people go on at the same time.

His website might be basic but it's at least a website. Something is better then nothing. O&A are doing the same thing they did before relying on someone else to do the work. In this case they are using all these free services. Fast Forward to a future show O&A will be complaining about these free services because they changed their business model and started charging for their service or something else along that line. It would take zero effort for them to get a website up all they would have to do is pay someone to do it but obviously they don't want to spend the money so first they depended on a fan who worked at the station (Steve) and now they depend on social media sites.

[Pitdoc]

The whole video archive argument gets so blown out of proportion by dummies who parrot everything OnA say.

Steve collected that material on his own and payed for all of it out of his own pocket. That's why everything had the foundry logo on it. If you had been archiving material for over a decade and someone wanted it from you I assume you would expect to be compensated for it as well. If not you're a dummy.

As for the days off, he earned all of those days off and passed up off days in the past to work. Other people on staff are doing the same thing but you don't hear a word about it on air. If they don't use the days they lose them.

Steve LEAD OnA to tell all their listeners to send their videos to Foundry( not sure if that's "collecting it on his own"). They plugged the site on their show, and told everyone "Send your videos to Foundry", and put their OWN videos on Foundry. Steve had the site up anyway to plug his own stuff & porno( which is where he made his money). So to ask for 50K from OnA to get the videos back , well that was asking for trouble.
Word is the boys had to go into their own pockets to do so. Did Steve think Opie was going to just let that one slide ? I'll bet money that Op put the word out then to Sirius , "Hey, don't renew this guy".
As for Mondays off, if he just didn't TELL anyone "I'll be off on Mondays for the forseeable future" , he might have skated on that one.

[TjM]

OH NOES!

OpieRadio

1. HERE! (speaking for me) I want to continue, their current offer is a joke and an insult, waiting to see if they wake up, if not I have plans
1 minute ago via web

[Warren Peace]

OH NOES!

Sounds like the gravy train may be coming to a screeching halt.

[conman823]

Oh noes! Is he going to release the pests? Surely Sirius couldn't withstand 5 people calling for about 15 mins!

Really Opie wake up and either take the crumbs or end this crap. The glory days of talk ain't coming back. At least Steve gets to move on before the compound burns.

[angrymissy]

Steve LEAD OnA to tell all their listeners to send their videos to Foundry( not sure if that's "collecting it on his own"). They plugged the site on their show, and told everyone "Send your videos to Foundry", and put their OWN videos on Foundry. Steve had the site up anyway to plug his own stuff & porno( which is where he made his money). So to ask for 50K from OnA to get the videos back , well that was asking for trouble.
Word is the boys had to go into their own pockets to do so. Did Steve think Opie was going to just let that one slide ? I'll bet money that Op put the word out then to Sirius , "Hey, don't renew this guy".
As for Mondays off, if he just didn't TELL anyone "I'll be off on Mondays for the forseeable future" , he might have skated on that one.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Who do you think paid the hosting fees for all those years to host the videos? To host the site? To provide the bandwith when that shit was plugged on air back when O&A were pretty popular?

I'd ask for the money too.

[El Mudo]

Oh noes! Is he going to release the pests? Surely Sirius couldn't withstand 5 people calling for about 15 mins!

Really Opie wake up and either take the crumbs or end this crap. The glory days of talk ain't coming back. At least Steve gets to move on before the compound burns.

Um...is it really all that smart for Opie to broadcast contract negotiations to the entire world? Hell, even Anthony tweeted:

HERE! (speaking for me) I'd rather not talk about ongoing contract negotiations in an entirely public forum for the world to see.

[conman823]

HERE! ( Speaking for me) I don't care how much rich radio guys who work a barely 20 hours week get paid.

[angrymissy]

Hope they saved their cash

[conman823]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Who do you think paid the hosting fees for all those years to host the videos? To host the site? To provide the bandwith when that shit was plugged on air back when O&A were pretty popular?

I'd ask for the money too.
Your anger is getting me a little hot today. If your into this just wink when u go to the bathroom.

[Space Edge]

Um...is it really all that smart for Opie to broadcast contract negotiations to the entire world? Hell, even Anthony tweeted:

Opie talking about the contract negotiations is nothing more then him seeking attention. He wants people to talk about it, it's as simple as that.

[brettmojo]

Hope they saved their cash
Somewhere in Long Island... A Guinea radio host is checking between the cushions of his $5,000 imported Italian leather couch for change.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Who do you think paid the hosting fees for all those years to host the videos? To host the site? To provide the bandwith when that shit was plugged on air back when O&A were pretty popular?

I'd ask for the money too.
Anthony was paying for Wackbag's server fees all these years he couldn't spring for Foundry as well? Cheap bastard.

[CountryBob]

I dont judge :nono:

[Zorro]

Somewhere in Long Island... A Guinea radio host is checking between the cushions of his $5,000 imported Italian leather couch for change.


Anthony was paying for Wackbag's server fees all these years he couldn't spring for Foundry as well? Cheap bastard.

I'll bet that radio host is smart enough to say "on" Long Island instead of "in" Long Island

[Zorro]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Who do you think paid the hosting fees for all those years to host the videos? To host the site? To provide the bandwith when that shit was plugged on air back when O&A were pretty popular?

I'd ask for the money too.

:clap:

[sknight]

Fuck steve. IT was going down this route for years, but I hope it's not like Opie says, where he pulls a Ben and Rick on him. Ope warned him it was coming...

[brettmojo]

I'll bet that radio host is smart enough to say "on" Long Island instead of "in" Long Island
Do you say "in New York" or do you say "on New York"?

Article ON Crunchgear about the Sirius/O&A/Stern/Steve/Dave/R&F situation... (http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/08/amidst-howard-stern-negotiations-numerous-talent-firings-the-question-becomes-where-are-you-going-sirius-xm/)

[sailor]

Do you say "in New York" or do you say "on New York"?

Article ON Crunchgear about the Sirius/O&A/Stern/Steve/Dave/R&F situation... (http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/08/amidst-howard-stern-negotiations-numerous-talent-firings-the-question-becomes-where-are-you-going-sirius-xm/)

in new york/the bronx/queens/brooklyn/manhattan
on staten island/long island

[StanUpshaw]

You're on a geographical location.

You're in a municipal location.

[monkfish]

It's over Johnny.

Prediction: Ron pulls a R. Budd Dwyer after being asked to move to the 6 to 11 AM slot

[Sloppy2nds]

It's over Johnny.

Prediction: Ron pulls a R. Budd Dwyer after being asked to move to the 6 to 11 AM slot

Sam & Dave from 11-3 :thumbup:

[Zipgun]

OOOOOOH!!! I can almost hear the radios smashing already!!! It's like an early birthday present!!!

[conman823]

OOOOOOH!!! I can almost hear the radios smashing already!!! It's like an early birthday present!!!
If someone smashes a radio, and nobody is around to hear it, does it really make a sound?

[TripleSkeet]

I wont smash it, but if O & A, and R & F are let go in order to save money for Stern (or for any reason come to think of it), I will definitely be cancelling my sub and probably tossing my unit in the trash. Sirius /XM is pretty worthless to me without 202.

[sailor]

I wont smash it, but if O & A, and R & F are let go in order to save money for Stern (or for any reason come to think of it), I will definitely be cancelling my sub and probably tossing my unit in the trash. Sirius /XM is pretty worthless to me without 202.

without a doubt. (but i don't really fear either will be gone.)

[Sue_Bender]

I wont smash it, but if O & A, and R & F are let go in order to save money for Stern (or for any reason come to think of it), I will definitely be cancelling my sub and probably tossing my unit in the trash. Sirius /XM is pretty worthless to me without 202.

Oddly enough, I have a feeling they'll keep Ron around based solely on his Unmasked work.


I'm not sure the higher-ups are aware of "The Virus".

[NewYorkDragons80]

I wont smash it, but... I will definitely be cancelling my sub and probably tossing my unit in the trash. Sirius /XM is pretty worthless to me without 202.

Enough with the personal attacks on HTG!!!

[conman823]

I wont smash it, but if O & A, and R & F are let go in order to save money for Stern (or for any reason come to think of it), I will definitely be cancelling my sub and probably tossing my unit in the trash. Sirius /XM is pretty worthless to me without 202.

I had my XM off for about a year and what brought me back more then anything was the music. I'm not a big iPod user and regular radio is shit.

[realmenhatelife]

Do you say "in New York" or do you say "on New York"?

Article ON Crunchgear about the Sirius/O&A/Stern/Steve/Dave/R&F situation... (http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/09/08/amidst-howard-stern-negotiations-numerous-talent-firings-the-question-becomes-where-are-you-going-sirius-xm/)

Is it a joke that he doesn't acknowledge that Opie's tweeting is a joke? Because that would be some meta shit.

[AHerald117]

I was discussing this the other night: what do you think would happen to O and A if they weren't re-uped with Sirius XM, could they do regular radio, and where? I figure R&F can do go on regardless of Satelite radio.

[Sloppy2nds]

I was discussing this the other night: what do you think would happen to O and A if they weren't re-uped with Sirius XM, could they do regular radio, and where? I figure R&F can do go on regardless of Satelite radio.

I don't think anyone would touch them.

[sailor]

I don't think anyone would touch them.

Based on what?

[underdog]

Based on what?

The horrible ratings the last time they were on regular radio.

[Dell]

and that's how you executive produce...

[danner1515]

Opie just posted this link on Facebook: http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/oa-contract-negotiations-with-sirius-xm-heat-up-opie-calls-offer-a-joke.html#more

[Sloppy2nds]

I don't think anyone would touch them.

Based on what?

The horrible ratings the last time they were on regular radio.

Exactly!!! I honestly don't think they're pulling in people on SiriusXm either. I haven't been a regular listener of O&A for a while. Bad boys of radio is one thing, bad radio is another.

[Zipgun]

Plus, they won't work for Sirius at whatever offer they're giving, which means terrestrial would be an even worse offer. Add on the restrictions of terrestrial, the commercial breaks and douchebag PD's to the bad attitude they'd have from having to go back to that environment and it would make the show even worse than it is now. Especially for Ant who wouldn't be able to even remotely touch on his racial tirades and for Jimmy who hates terrestrial, period. Op could always work in radio anywhere, though. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he just joined Brother Wease's show.

[TripleSkeet]

Bottome line if they get rid of both shows Im out. Without something to entertain me to and from work everyday, I have no use for Sirius. I just hope if they let them walk, they give Stern huge money and the company eventually folds under the weight of it.

I still think O & A can get jobs in regular radio. Most likely afternoons, which I would prefer to mornings anyway. I dont know why people would assume FM radio would offer them less then Sirius. Sirius is the one hemorraging money right now.

[Serpico1103]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Who do you think paid the hosting fees for all those years to host the videos? To host the site? To provide the bandwith when that shit was plugged on air back when O&A were pretty popular?

I'd ask for the money too.

Didn't it bring traffic to his site where he sold advertising and webcam girls? Did he calculate the cost of all the free advertising for foundry?

Also, didn't he take the videos on company time, so how are the videos his property?

Steve allowed himself to be marginalized. He should have taken note what is happening with R&F.

[Meataball23]

Ron stays as an interview show, Fez is a hanger on/warmup act, Ant goes to terrestrial/fox radio (slightly tones down the act but essentially political-right wing -they could definitely sell that) op goes somewhere terrestrial, Im guessing the brother weeze thing wasnt too far off.

And 202 no longer exists.

As someone who worked through a merger (on the wrong end) what really kills me is this part of it. The 'phasing' aspect of the whole thing is insulting. If the plan is to reduce redundancies, just get it the f- over with and do the mass layoff thing, then start hiring as you need going forward.

Sucks for 202 but I think this ending is already decided.

[Serpico1103]

Ron stays as an interview show, Fez is a hanger on/warmup act, Ant goes to terrestrial/fox radio (slightly tones down the act but essentially political-right wing -they could definitely sell that) op goes somewhere terrestrial, Im guessing the brother weeze thing wasnt too far off.

And 202 no longer exists.

As someone who worked through a merger (on the wrong end) what really kills me is this part of it. The 'phasing' aspect of the whole thing is insulting. If the plan is to reduce redundancies, just get it the f- over with and do the mass layoff thing, then start hiring as you need going forward.

Sucks for 202 but I think this ending is already decided.

O&A admit they gave up trying years ago. Sirius just needs to catch up and quit paying them. They brag about running away from meetings with the bosses, then wonder why they are treated like shit.

[disgruntledsherpa]

Also, if someone on Wackbag was correct and this means a promotion for Danny and/or more air time for him, that would be detrimental to the O&A show.

Agreed 100%. Danny is one or the main reasons I stopped listening to Opie and Anthony.

[TripleSkeet]

O&A admit they gave up trying years ago. Sirius just needs to catch up and quit paying them. They brag about running away from meetings with the bosses, then wonder why they are treated like shit.

This has been predicted since the merger happened. Im not gonna blame them for just giving up kissing Mels ass trying to save their jobs. The difference in how they were valued between XM and Sirius is just ridiculous. Im willing to bet most of the higher ups at Sirius wouldnt know the Ron and Fez show if you played it for them.

When you work, especially in the creative field, and do your job well and your bosses dont know, dont care, just dont pay attention its fucking aggrivating. Thats the life of a bigtime corporate employee. I fault O & A for some things, but never that. Id rather they go down in flames then change their show using ideas from corporate suits that dont even know what kind of show they do.

[Serpico1103]

This has been predicted since the merger happened. Im not gonna blame them for just giving up kissing Mels ass trying to save their jobs. The difference in how they were valued between XM and Sirius is just ridiculous. Im willing to bet most of the higher ups at Sirius wouldnt know the Ron and Fez show if you played it for them.

When you work, especially in the creative field, and do your job well and your bosses dont know, dont care, just dont pay attention its fucking aggrivating. Thats the life of a bigtime corporate employee. I fault O & A for some things, but never that. Id rather they go down in flames then change their show using ideas from corporate suits that dont even know what kind of show they do.

I am not saying they should change the show. But, play the game. Go to meetings, listen to the executives, yes them to death, then leave and forget the meeting happened.
As far as being creative, they gave that up a long time ago. Now, they show up and talk for four hours. Bits, research, production are all at a minimum.
Not siding with management, just saying you need to play the game. O&A are just part of a machine, no longer a vital part.

[sailor]

I am not saying they should change the show. But, play the game. Go to meetings, listen to the executives, yes them to death, then leave and forget the meeting happened.
As far as being creative, they gave that up a long time ago. Now, they show up and talk for four hours. Bits, research, production are all at a minimum.
Not siding with management, just saying you need to play the game. O&A are just part of a machine, no longer a vital part.

ron also makes a big deal out of not going to meetings and i'd be shocked if howard doesn't do the same thing. other than fez i think it's part of the personality set that gets hired to that job.

[Fillmore Slim]

This has been predicted since the merger happened. Im not gonna blame them for just giving up kissing Mels ass trying to save their jobs. The difference in how they were valued between XM and Sirius is just ridiculous. Im willing to bet most of the higher ups at Sirius wouldnt know the Ron and Fez show if you played it for them.

When you work, especially in the creative field, and do your job well and your bosses dont know, dont care, just dont pay attention its fucking aggrivating. Thats the life of a bigtime corporate employee. I fault O & A for some things, but never that. Id rather they go down in flames then change their show using ideas from corporate suits that dont even know what kind of show they do.

"Howards a hack who couldn't adapt"

Remember that little catch phrase. I'd say the same is true of OnA as well at this point.

[Dan 'Hampton]

It's obvious erock will take more of a responsible position. I don't get where people think Danny will be the top guy. If him why not Travis? More than likely the won't replace him with anyone. Maybe Earl can come bAck

[Serpico1103]

ron also makes a big deal out of not going to meetings and i'd be shocked if howard doesn't do the same thing. other than fez i think it's part of the personality set that gets hired to that job.

I am not sure that mentality works anymore. Radio is not the wild west like it was when all those guys started. Now, it is just another small division of a media conglomerate or a bean counting satellite company shedding payroll to stay afloat.

Ron & Fez aren't the face of the Virus like O&A are; with that comes more responsibility.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

How'd you lose your job?...That's terrible, I'm sorry.

[Chigworthy]

How'd you lose your job?...That's terrible, I'm sorry.

Get the fuck out, NOW!

[WhatsInTheBoxx]

Posted by Death Metal Moe :
<i> Also, if someone on Wackbag was correct and this means a promotion for Danny and/or more air time for him, that would be detrimental to the O&A show.</i>

Posted by disgruntledsherpa :
<i> Agreed 100%. Danny is one or the main reasons I stopped listening to Opie and Anthony. </i>

This is wierd because I think Danny rules, and is fucking funny as hell. Funny where people splinter off from each other. . .

[conman823]

I prefer Danny over Sam any day.

Danny is just a parrot of Anthony 90% of the time anyway. Minor interjections I can deal with.

Sam on the other hand is an air hog, then programs the weekend show to include all his air time.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Sam is great. Picking on the retard gimic works well.