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disneyspy
10-25-2010, 01:31 PM
The first medical marijuana store in michigan has opened in my town of Traverse City (with 3 more opening soon). I haven't thought or really given it alot of thought until recently about getting high but since the store has opened I've thought about it constantly. I know a doctor/friend that would prescribe it for me and i could even get the state to pay for it. I don't need it, I'm in good health, haven't drank or smoked in 10 years and i was never adicted to pot but i have had some problems with other substances. But I really want to get high during my unemployment time (about 5 months) starting next Monday. I'm going to put this in a poll and go by what you people decide over the next week.

Furtherman
10-25-2010, 01:57 PM
If you haven't in 10 years, why start again? I don't know your history, but I'd say no.

Death Metal Moe
10-25-2010, 02:00 PM
I've never seen the problem with pot. I know dozens of people who just do pot but still get up and do their job. The gateway stuff is all bullshit. Our country just isn't willing to admit it lied to us with the fucking DARE campaign and all the other various shit before it.

Smoke pot, it's nothing. Enjoy yourself.

Jayw
10-25-2010, 02:16 PM
I would say the gateway shit is only bullshit in a way. Weed is usually just the easiest thing to get a hold of. If you seek out drugs in general I have seen that weed is almost always the first stop for anyone, then you move up find better connections and away you go until you find your drug of choice.

I would say the war on drugs in the US is what is bullshit.

I voted no just because I can't smoke weed anymore all it does is bring anxiety and stress x10. I feel like Larry David in that curb episode where he smokes with his dad and gets all freaked out in the bathroom mirror. But if it doesn't stress you out then go for it, I prefer a valium.

weekapaugjz
10-25-2010, 02:31 PM
short answer: yes

long answer: yes

weekapaugjz
10-25-2010, 02:32 PM
and i expect pics of the buds you are smoking just like your dating thread from awhile back.

Lady Resin
10-25-2010, 02:40 PM
Go here instead:

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:smoke:

jennysmurf
10-25-2010, 03:11 PM
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Death Metal Moe
10-25-2010, 03:16 PM
I would say the gateway shit is only bullshit in a way. Weed is usually just the easiest thing to get a hold of. If you seek out drugs in general I have seen that weed is almost always the first stop for anyone, then you move up find better connections and away you go until you find your drug of choice.


The "gateway drug" stuff is total and complete bullshit. Yes, weed is one of your easier to get drugs. That's just the 1st and easier thing a person with an addiction problem will find. But there's no studies or really ways to know what those people would have done without that 1st step, weed, in the way. They would have found a way to get high anyway. It's such a crock of shit.

StanUpshaw
10-25-2010, 04:22 PM
The "gateway drug" stuff is total and complete bullshit. Yes, weed is one of your easier to get drugs. That's just the 1st and easier thing a person with an addiction problem will find. But there's no studies or really ways to know what those people would have done without that 1st step, weed, in the way. They would have found a way to get high anyway. It's such a crock of shit.

I don't think people are claiming that there is anything magical about weed that makes it a "gateway drug." Due to economic forces, it is thrust into the role as the de facto gateway drug for our time and place. Before long, if it hasn't already happened, scripts may become the gateway drug.

But it sounds like you're arguing against the "gateway effect" altogether. You say there are no studies, but that's just plain false. A search on Google Scholar will reveal thousands.

And of course there is a way to study would have done otherwise. They're called twin studies, and they're pretty much the backbone of behavioral research.

But other than those things, I agree with everything you said. I love DMM!

TripleSkeet
10-25-2010, 04:59 PM
Hmmm...you can get a doctor to prescribe it and the state to pay for it....you got any friends that are just regular potheads? Because my advice would be to get it and then just sell it to them for extra cash.

disneyspy
10-25-2010, 05:01 PM
Hmmm...you can get a doctor to prescribe it and the state to pay for it....you got any friends that are just regular potheads? Because my advice would be to get it and then just sell it to them for extra cash.

the stores are co-ops which means they can only sell what they grow

sink
10-25-2010, 05:04 PM
Puff Puff away

StanUpshaw
10-25-2010, 05:07 PM
the stores are co-ops which means they can only sell what they grow

Buy some hash from that nice family in the Jesus Winnebago. The mom will fuck you real good too.

Chigworthy
10-25-2010, 05:39 PM
Nicotine is a gateway drug.
Alcohol has far worse effects (generally) than weed.

If you want to abuse the silly medical marijuana system and get high, why not. It's a stupid, dangerous system that should be abused until it is legalized.

benjamin
10-25-2010, 05:50 PM
"It doesn't make you a bad person", as Ronnie B would say.

:smoke:

Jayw
10-25-2010, 05:56 PM
Alcohol has far worse effects (generally) than weed.

If you want to abuse the silly medical marijuana system and get high, why not. It's a stupid, dangerous system that should be abused until it is legalized.

I do agree alcohol is so much more dangerous. Really all smoking weed comes down to is if you enjoy it theres really no reason at all not to smoke it whenever you want. As long as you can afford too.

So ya abuse the hell out of that medical marijuana shit while you can. I change my no vote to yes!

TheGameHHH
10-25-2010, 06:45 PM
Buy some hash from that nice family in the Jesus Winnebago. The mom will fuck you real good too.

and u get to hang out with Kevin Nealon for a little bit too. its a win win

Dude!
10-25-2010, 06:48 PM
unemployed potheads
just reek of success

sink
10-25-2010, 07:08 PM
Alcohol has far worse effects (generally) than weed.

.

SO true and often looked over

PapaBear
10-25-2010, 07:15 PM
I'd like to see if there are any studies or surveys that show the number of ADULT pot smokers, who don't end up doing harder drugs. I'd bet that percentage would be pretty damn high (no pun intended).

weekapaugjz
10-25-2010, 07:19 PM
I'd like to see if there are any studies or surveys that show the number of ADULT pot smokers, who don't end up doing harder drugs. I'd bet that percentage would be pretty damn high (no pun intended).

:bye:

brettmojo
10-25-2010, 07:20 PM
I've been thinking about this too lately, but not a big fan of smoking in general.

PapaBear
10-25-2010, 07:22 PM
I've been thinking about this too lately, but not a big fan of smoking in general.
I haven't tried it, and it gets old hearing people talk about it all the time, but there's always the vaporizer. That, or cooking with it.

brettmojo
10-25-2010, 07:24 PM
I haven't tried it, and it gets old hearing people talk about it all the time, but there's always the vaporizer. That, or cooking with it.
Yeah the vaporizer option would be the way to go.

keithy_19
10-25-2010, 08:30 PM
I voted no but I'm not sure why. I'm for the legalization of every drug as long as you do it on your property.

When are they going to start opening up in Jersey? I don't smoke but it does wonders for pain. And hell, it's a better alternative than other pain meds.

Space Edge
10-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Don't you do the 12 step thing? If so do you really care about throwing time away.

I know someone who used to do do heroin (among other opiates) and smoked crack and has been off the shit for 5 years without the help of the 12 step thing. Therefore counting days, collecting chips and all that other AA/NA bullshit propaganda dosen't apply to that person. The person I know has smoked weed during his time off the dope but hasn't smoked in over a year but if it became legal in his state he would do it again. Said person would easily be able to get a Rx for pot and wouldn't think twice about getting one if it were legal.

realmenhatelife
10-26-2010, 03:49 AM
I vote no because anyone who wants to talk about pot shouldn't be allowed to smoke pot. It should be like jacking off. Do it in privacy, keep it quiet. It isn't a lifestyle.


Here's what's interesting to me though. You didn't want to smoke pot until it became legal, but it's not like the way you're obtaining it is any less illicit than if you bought it from a guy in his house. I dont think the Doug Bensons of the world are helping the legalize pot movement at all by showing how bullshit the medical marijuana system is, medical marijuana is the one real shot at legalization that exists and people flaunt how easily the system can be abused.

A.J.
10-26-2010, 04:40 AM
I haven't tried it, and it gets old hearing people talk about it all the time, but there's always the vaporizer. That, or cooking with it.

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disneyspy
10-26-2010, 05:02 AM
Don't you do the 12 step thing? If so do you really care about throwing time away.

that my friend is one of the big hang ups i have and also i have alot of good friends i know from a program and fuck NA-its the most hypocritical group of people you'll ever meet if you stand outside and smoke a cigarette with them before a meeting.

CYYYFYYY
10-26-2010, 07:00 AM
Nicotine is a gateway drug.
Alcohol has far worse effects (generally) than weed.

If you want to abuse the silly medical marijuana system and get high, why not. It's a stupid, dangerous system that should be abused until it is legalized.

If you have worries you know yourself the best don't do it. I hate when people say booze is worse than pot and that is why you should do pot. Maybe that should be an arguement not to drink. If your arguement for something is there are worse things out there, that usually means the thing you are fighting for is not the best thing in the world.

Crispy_Mobile
10-26-2010, 07:14 AM
Get something with a body high instead of mind fuck. like some afgan kush or Indica. Watch some funny shit on the couch.
You might be tempted 2 drink if u get paranoid too easy, tho. so maybe have valium instead?

TripleSkeet
10-26-2010, 07:52 AM
the stores are co-ops which means they can only sell what they grow

I dont get what that has to do with what I said. You said you could get pot without paying for it. My suggestion was you do that and sell it to people you know that smoke, therefore making 100% profit for yourself.

KingModem
10-26-2010, 07:55 AM
If you have to ask advice on if you should, then you probably shouldn't.

CountryBob
10-26-2010, 07:56 AM
I love to get high

disneyspy
10-26-2010, 07:56 AM
I dont get what that has to do with what I said. You said you could get pot without paying for it. My suggestion was you do that and sell it to people you know that smoke, therefore making 100% profit for yourself.

i totally misread your post,but it sounds like a good idea

Dude!
10-26-2010, 08:28 AM
instead of wasting 5 months
sitting around smoking pot
like a loser

why don't you take a couple
of classes instead...
so in 5 months you end up
better than where you started?

terry-c
10-26-2010, 08:33 AM
If you have had substance problems in the past, than you should not. I am not saying that you will be addicted to pot, but when you are high your faculties will be compromised and any barriers you have up in your head towards the other substances you had a problem with may come crashing down. I am a compulsive gambler with 14 months of abstinence, and I would never go anywhere where gambling is being done. It is similar with drug/alcohol use, I believe.

Death Metal Moe
10-26-2010, 08:40 AM
Ugh, what happened to Ronfez.net's balls? There's a collection of old fucking women who post here now.

If you've been thinking about smoking for so long, just smoke a joint and shut up about it.

disneyspy
10-26-2010, 08:57 AM
Ugh, what happened to Ronfez.net's balls? There's a collection of old fucking women who post here now.

If you've been thinking about smoking for so long, just smoke a joint and shut up about it.

you sound like an old woman,maybe you should get high, mellow out and shut up

Death Metal Moe
10-26-2010, 09:03 AM
Good one.

disneyspy
10-26-2010, 09:10 AM
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realmenhatelife
10-26-2010, 09:11 AM
Ugh, what happened to Ronfez.net's balls? There's a collection of old fucking women who post here now.

If you've been thinking about smoking for so long, just smoke a joint and shut up about it.

Smoking pot is ballsy, and posting on a message board used to be ballsy? I thought they were two things that 14 year olds did.

Death Metal Moe
10-26-2010, 09:12 AM
Smoking pot is ballsy, and posting on a message board used to be ballsy? I thought they were two things that 14 year olds did.

Neither are a big deal at all, that was my point.

hydee
10-26-2010, 09:24 AM
If you haven't in 10 years, why start again? I don't know your history, but I'd say no.

Even though our brains are filled with Cannabinoids that are longing to be activated. Not only to increase healing but also just improve our over all mood. If this was coke or something chemical I could understand a NO answer but this is pot. It's natural, it does little harm and could do a lot of good for his overall life.

It's like saying if you haven't eaten a carrot in 10 years you shouldn't eat them now.

Dude!
10-26-2010, 10:10 AM
It's like saying if you haven't eaten a carrot in 10 years you shouldn't eat them now.

carrots don't make you lazy

CountryBob
10-26-2010, 10:23 AM
carrots don't make you lazy

Or eat a whole large pizza in one sitting!

Space Edge
10-26-2010, 10:24 AM
that my friend is one of the big hang ups i have and also i have alot of good friends i know from a program and fuck NA-its the most hypocritical group of people you'll ever meet if you stand outside and smoke a cigarette with them before a meeting.

Here is the way I look at it if you following the program and you smoke people are going to consider it a relapse. I don't know if you care much about the 12 Step "rules" but if you smoke they will end up shunning you, since those programs are based on 100% abstinence. Maybe you can ditch the program and smoke and continue to stay off of other substances and lead a normal life or maybe you will smoke and that will set off something in your brain and next thing you know you are off to the races again.

I think by making this thread you are sitting on the fence with the weed and the 12 step program. You want people here to say hey yeah it's ok to do it. If you didn't care about the program anymore you would just smoke and not make that big of a deal over it. Not sure if that makes any sense.

hydee
10-26-2010, 11:15 AM
carrots don't make you lazy

Dude you make yourself lazy. I work 10 hours a day at my family business, take care of a very new puppy, clean my house, go running at least once a day and still smoke pot everyday. If you weren't lazy before the pot you won't be lazy after the pot.

Death Metal Moe
10-26-2010, 11:39 AM
There is absolutely no difference between smoking a joint to relax and having a couple beers to relax except "Uncle Sam" told you one is just fine and the other is the devil.

Keep buying into if losers. Keeping drinking and getting your legalized dope from your doctors but then look down on "druggies" who smoke weed.

terry-c
10-26-2010, 12:22 PM
There is absolutely no difference between smoking a joint to relax and having a couple beers to relax except "Uncle Sam" told you one is just fine and the other is the devil.

Keep buying into if losers. Keeping drinking and getting your legalized dope from your doctors but then look down on "druggies" who smoke weed.

What the hell are you talking about? Who said it was any worse than drinking? That isn't the issue here. The issue is whether or not he should smoke if he has a pattern of substance abuse in the past. The same advice would be given if he posted that he has a desire to have a few beers. To someone with an addictive personality, a few beers or a joint here and there could potentially lead to utter disaster. This has nothing to do with "Big Brother" telling us what is right or wrong.

weekapaugjz
10-26-2010, 12:56 PM
who wants to hit this joint?

disneyspy
10-26-2010, 01:32 PM
who wants to hit this joint?

not me,just by getting it out there the obsessive thinking of the last week has gone away and i'm good

Death Metal Moe
10-26-2010, 01:39 PM
Pussy.

Dude!
10-26-2010, 02:08 PM
not me,just by getting it out there the obsessive thinking of the last week has gone away and i'm good

good for you....jack!

Suspect Chin
10-26-2010, 02:33 PM
When you finally decided to smoke, did you immediately start thinking of songs you could play to turn the experience into a big party?

angrymissy
10-27-2010, 09:03 AM
I've never seen the problem with pot. I know dozens of people who just do pot but still get up and do their job. The gateway stuff is all bullshit. Our country just isn't willing to admit it lied to us with the fucking DARE campaign and all the other various shit before it.

Smoke pot, it's nothing. Enjoy yourself.

I won the DARE essay contest at my elementary school in the 5th grade, and got to go on tv and be interviewed by the mayor.

I then became the biggest druggie EVER when I hit like 16. The best part was the drug officer for the town was officer ROACH.

Crispy123
10-27-2010, 09:57 AM
I was gonna vote but then I got high!

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WampusCrandle
10-27-2010, 01:10 PM
go for it, bro! I'm pretty wicked high right now. I will keep smoking in your honor!

midwestjeff
10-27-2010, 03:08 PM
What Weeka said.

weekapaugjz
11-06-2010, 12:53 PM
hey dspy, wanna hit this bowl?

WhatsInTheBoxx
11-06-2010, 01:05 PM
I've been smoking herb for a while now, and am one who smokes very regularly. Never got into the hard stuff much, and have tripped a damn good amount of times.

The vaporizer is the way to go - I love the Volcano, an investment in healthier smoking!
It's expensive, but very effective, and in my opinion is the best device out there.

Light It Up Spyman! :smoke: