Anyone else excited for election day?

[keithy_19]

It has nothing to do with whoever wins. I just love watching the results come in and the stupid maps and everything.

Is anyone else pumped for the coming week?

[PapaBear]

It means nothing to me locally, this time around. The only office up for grabs is a clincher for Frank Wolf. Not a chance in Hell of anyone defeating him.

[keithy_19]

It means nothing to me locally, this time around. The only office up for grabs is a clincher for Frank Wolf. Not a chance in Hell of anyone defeating him.

To be honest, I haven't been following local elections around me. I don't think any of them are going to change much.

It's just an exciting time to me, regardless of if there is a big ticket race in my area. I'm a bit of a political geek I guess.

[CountryBob]

Early voted yesterday - I feel the winds of change a coming.....

[realmenhatelife]

The PA governor and senate race have both been pretty interesting. Plus you have that crazy bitch down in Delaware.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

While I am no fan of Linda. CT voters will once again prove how idiotic they are and vote for Blumenthal.

[A.J.]

It means nothing to me locally, this time around. The only office up for grabs is a clincher for Frank Wolf. Not a chance in Hell of anyone defeating him.

What are you talking about? DC is about to get a new Mayor. I wonder who it will be!

[A.J.]

While I am no fan of Linda. CT voters will once again prove how idiotic they are and vote for Blumenthal.

And they will also re-elect Rosa DeLauro.

[Furtherman]

Right or left, this is pretty funny...

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[disneyspy]

i only get excited when i'm surrounded by hot asian woman chanting election election (well you know how they pronounce it)

[TripleSkeet]

I couldnt care less. Ill be out fishing the whole day.

[pennington]

I love election night, I'll be following it for hours. I hope, though, we don't get any (or too many) recount situations.

[sailor]

Does epo still post here?

[Dude!]

epo's despondent about
feingold going down in flames

he's too embarrassed
to post here any more

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see that the House race for Barney Franks district is very close. That might be one of the biggest upsets if he loses.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If Angle beats Reid who becomes Majority leader ? While It looks like the house is going to get a Tsunami the Dems will most likely remain majority in the Senate. Would it be Durbin since he's majority whip?

[A.J.]

If Angle beats Reid who becomes Majority leader ? While It looks like the house is going to get a Tsunami the Dems will most likely remain majority in the Senate. Would it be Durbin since he's majority whip?

By tradition, it would likely be Durbin.

HOWEVER, there is a lot of talk about Chuck Schumer getting the job.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

By tradition, it would likely be Durbin.

HOWEVER, there is a lot of talk about Chuck Schumer getting the job.

NY Voters are just as bad as CT ones. Jesus could run against Schumer and would still lose by a landslide.

[Dude!]

more republicans will "lose"
than people think because
the dems and their union bosses
are engaging in rampant vote-fraud
and ballot-tampering all over
the country

they get what they want,
one way or another

[Pitdoc]

more republicans will "lose"
than people think because
the dems and their union bosses
are engaging in rampant vote-fraud
and ballot-tampering all over
the country

they get what they want,
one way or another


Oy vey

Right-wing voter fraud obsession leads to tens of criminal charges

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/2010_elections/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/10/27/voter_fraud_scam

Or do you think those two morons in Pennsylvania with goatees who call themselves the "New Black Panthers" are going to stand out in front of a few thousand polling places?

Sad thing is, these views are going to be used to keep thousands of people( who are legitimate ,registered voters) FROM voting

[brettmojo]

YES WE CAN! RIGHT?! yeh...

:airjerkoffsmiley:

[danner1515]

I live in Birmingham. I'm not expecting too many surprises.

[furie]

meh.
I'll vote but i'm not pumped

[keithy_19]

Right or left, this is pretty funny...

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Eh. I'll say that she is quite the looker and I'm all for a super war on Norway. Troll loving bastards.

[furie]

Right or left, this is pretty funny...

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which part is funny?

[keithy_19]

which part is funny?

They talked about this on Red Eye last night.

Might just be me, but saying President Palin and looking sick a joke does not make.

[Zorro]

Here in Queens our "representatives" are selected not elected.

[Crispy123]

If Angle beats Reid who becomes Majority leader ? While It looks like the house is going to get a Tsunami the Dems will most likely remain majority in the Senate. Would it be Durbin since he's majority whip?

If...if...you are out of your mind if you think it will even be close.

I can only hope that all of the crooked union leaders keep the Dem majority. I will leave America if the Republicans control both houses of Congress after this election.

[Dude!]

I will leave America if the Republicans control both houses of Congress after this election.

what a liar

you people always say that
and then never do

good-riddance,
but you won't go

[Pitdoc]

If...if...you are out of your mind if you think it will even be close.

I can only hope that all of the crooked union leaders keep the Dem majority. I will leave America if the Republicans control both houses of Congress after this election.

I think the Dems will keep the Senate, but Reid might lose.In which case its going to be either Durbin or Chuck Schumer. I hope Reid DOES lose.First, we'll get to see what a kook Angle really is for 6 yrs.Then , we might get a senate leader who's not a major league pussy, and who'll make the Repubs ACTUALLY fillibuster,instead of going,,"Oh, OK, less than 60 members wont like this, so the bills dead"

[Crispy123]

what a liar

you people always say that
and then never do

good-riddance,
but you won't go

Ive got a cruise booked to Cancun for new years, regardless. So fuck you, faggot!:bye:

[keithy_19]

Ive got a cruise booked to Cancun for new years, regardless. So fuck you, faggot!:bye:

Have fun with the pirates you anti-American son of a gun. :wink:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ive got a cruise booked to Cancun for new years, regardless. So fuck you, faggot!:bye:

Make sure you have your papers with you. Mexicos laws are draconian.

[TripleSkeet]

what a liar

you people always say that
and then never do

good-riddance,
but you won't go

Didnt Rush Limbaugh do this?

[angrymissy]

Didnt Rush Limbaugh do this?

Yup, he said he'd leave the country if health care reform passed. There were a couple of other idiots saying they'd leave if Obama was elected... I don't think anyone actually did.

Although, President Palin would definitely have me researching leaving the country.

[Dude!]

Although, President Palin would definitely have me researching leaving the country.

wow...a Palin victory
would have you "researching"
now that's a strong stand

[angrymissy]

wow...a Palin victory
would have you "researching"
now that's a strong stand

I would never say I would 100% leave the country, generally, the thought would not cross my mind, with her, however, it would.

People also don't realize that it's not that easy to up and move to another country immigration wise.

[Gutter]

I would never say I would 100% leave the country, generally, the thought would not cross my mind, with her, however, it would.

People also don't realize that it's not that easy to up and move to another country immigration wise.

I think you could seek political asylum if she actually got elected to the presidency.

[Zorro]

Yup, he said he'd leave the country if health care reform passed. There were a couple of other idiots saying they'd leave if Obama was elected... I don't think anyone actually did.

Although, President Palin would definitely have me researching leaving the country.

Two things that amaze me about American politics...First I will never understand the Limbaugh phenomenon and secondly why is there such hate for Sara Palin...the woman is an invention of the media, only echoes what her "followers" are already thinking and the only way she gets to be president is if a virus kills every citizen, but 100 people at the Alaskan republican party convention.

BTW Limbaugh's suggestion that he will go to Costa Rica seems odd in light of the fact that the country offers government-financed universal health care.

[angrymissy]

Two things that amaze me about American politics...First I will never understand the Limbaugh phenomenon and secondly why is there such hate for Sara Palin...the woman is an invention of the media, only echoes what her "followers" are already thinking and the only way she gets to be president is if a virus kills every citizen, but 100 people at the Alaskan republican party convention.

BTW

Because she is an incredibly scary, uneducated, uninformed religious wacko that actually could have been VP.

She was in the running. It could have happened. So, she's not exactly just an invention of the media, she was actually IN THE RUNNING TO BE IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY.

Now, I doubt it would happen, and I doubt she would win, but if that did go down, it would be one of the few things that would actually make me consider cutting and running to another country.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Because she is an incredibly scary, uneducated, uninformed religious wacko that actually could have been VP.

She was in the running. It could have happened. So, she's not exactly just an invention of the media, she was actually IN THE RUNNING TO BE IN LINE TO THE PRESIDENCY.

Now, I doubt it would happen, and I doubt she would win, but if that did go down, it would be one of the few things that would actually make me consider cutting and running to another country.

There was no way McCain Palin ticket would have won. The election wasn't even close

[TripleSkeet]

There was no way McCain Palin ticket would have won. The election wasn't even close

The fact there are people in this country dumb enough to think she should be president is more then enough to frighten me.

[Zorro]

The fact there are people in this country dumb enough to think she should be president is more then enough to frighten me.

"than enough"

[Dude!]

"than enough"

ha!
it is always the ones
who call others "dumb"
that make all the mistakes!

pure psych 101

[Gutter]

ha!
it is always the ones
who call others "dumb"
that make all the mistakes!

pure psych 101

is that a haiku?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The fact there are people in this country dumb enough to think she should be president is more then enough to frighten me.

Agreed but most of the country see her as a failure and a sideshow. She couldnt finish her term as a governor. I think we are giving her attention that she doesn't deserve. I dont think she's going to be the nominee. Romney and Huckabee both bad candidates with their flaws are more qualifed than Palin could ever be.

[Gutter]

Agreed but most of the country see her as a failure and a sideshow. She couldnt finish her term as a governor. I think we are giving her attention that she doesn't deserve. I dont think she's going to be the nominee. Romney and Huckabee both bad candidates with their flaws are more qualifed than Palin could ever be.

I think the real fear was that McCain would gain the majority of votes from the ultra religious and the bible belters, despite the fact that sarah palin was on the ticket, and possibly steal the election with those votes. So by default we would have had a VP who can't answer a question as simple as what newspapers she reads because she wasn't told what to say. God she would have been a "proud" VP though eh?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think the real fear was that McCain would gain the majority of votes from the ultra religious and the bible belters, despite the fact that sarah palin was on the ticket, and possibly steal the election with those votes. So by default we would have had a VP who can't answer a question as simple as what newspapers she reads because she wasn't told what to say. God she would have been a "proud" VP though eh?

There was no way Obama could have lost in 2008. With 2 terms of Bush, the wars and the economy in the tank and Obama's popularity and momentum at the time he was poised to win.

[Zorro]

I think the real fear was that McCain would gain the majority of votes from the ultra religious and the bible belters, despite the fact that sarah palin was on the ticket, and possibly steal the election with those votes. So by default we would have had a VP who can't answer a question as simple as what newspapers she reads because she wasn't told what to say. God she would have been a "proud" VP though eh?

I'm confused. If you get the "majority" of votes how do you steal an election?

[Gutter]

I'm confused. If you get the "majority" of votes how do you steal an election?

in the sense that no one would have expected McCain to win.....at least, nobody on the east or west coast would have. kind of like the way an actor can steal a scene.

[Gutter]

There was no way Obama could have lost in 2008. With 2 terms of Bush, the wars and the economy in the tank and Obama's popularity and momentum at the time he was poised to win.

at the time, i was pretty nervous before the results came out. again.....same reason i made use of the phrase, "steal the election". it was pretty nerve racking to think that McCain and idiot Palin could have been running the show. As poised to win as Obama was, upsets do happen, and no matter how sure a thing is, there is always that nervousness until it actually does happen.

[angrytruckingguy]

I haven't voted 'for' anyone in 20 years, however, I will enjoy voting against all incumbents. fuck 'em.

[Ogre]

I'm confused. If you get the "majority" of votes how do you steal an election?

Ask the dead guys and convicts that voted for this guy.

http://www.evworld.com/images/al_franken.jpg

[A.J.]

I'm confused. If you get the "majority" of votes how do you steal an election?

How indeed.

http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/37/3729/RVQAF00Z.jpg

[epo]

There was no way McCain Palin ticket would have won. The election wasn't even close

Lest you forget that the race was essentially tied in October until McCain shit the bed and "suspended" his campaign when Wall Street crashed.

[epo]

epo's despondent about
feingold going down in flames

he's too embarrassed
to post here any more

Sorry, I've been extremely busy getting everything in order for Tuesday.

Feingold wins by 2. Write it on a rock.

[Barnaby Jones]

Then it would just get washed away by rain!

[epo]

Does epo still post here?

Never heard of the guy. This epo character sounds like a real asshole to me.

[A.J.]

Sorry, I've been extremely busy getting everything in order for Tuesday.

Feingold wins by 2. Write it on a rock.

Whatever you say, Hippo.

[epo]

Whatever you say, Hippo.

That's just cruel.

[high fly]

Anyone else excited for election day?


I'm not.
This is an election season I wish would never end, what with all the insanity from the Tali-Baggers and all......

[disneyspy]

im so pissed at the amount of political commercials on local tv that ive decided to vote against whoever runs the most commercials

[Dude!]

im so pissed at the amount of political commercials on local tv that ive decided to vote against whoever runs the most commercials

so you started smoking dope
after all?

[disneyspy]

so you started smoking dope
after all?

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[Furtherman]

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[hanso]

That's a good cartoon^. Smart bear or what ever it is.




I'm not. The tea party guy is ahead for Senate in my state. With his shady dealings and lack of record. This is the kind of extreme I deplore along with Jason Ellis.

[keithy_19]

http://www.alan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/odonnell2-7484561.jpg

Is it wrong for me to want her to win? I don't agree with a lot of what she says and she's quite kooky, but that seems to make me want her to win more.

[hanso]

http://www.alan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/odonnell2-7484561.jpg

Is it wrong for me to want her to win? I don't agree with a lot of what she says and she's quite kooky, but that seems to make me want her to win more.

Only if you want xenophobe religious fanatics to rule your state.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Any chance of a situation like this when we wake up on 11/3 ?


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/running-for-office/assets/images/artifacts/45.1-zoom.jpg

[Dude!]

Any chance of a situation like this when we wake up on 11/3 ?


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/running-for-office/assets/images/artifacts/45.1-zoom.jpg


yes....but only if
the headline reads

"Dems Retain House and Senate"

[keithy_19]

Only if you want xenophobe religious fanatics to rule your state.

She will be a senator in a state other than mine. And I find her to be adorable.

So I want her to win.

[furie]

Here in Queens our "representatives" are selected not elected.

you mean the city counsel.
this is about US Congress

[jennysmurf]

I really need these political phone calls to stop. So, yes, I am excited about election day.

[disneyspy]

im not currently running a political campaign but when i think of you i run one


vote for spy,creep champ 2012

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ive heard some pundits saying that the GOP could pick up as many as 60 seats. Im going to make a guess and say about 45-50 for the House.


Senate btwn 6-8 seats

In some of the more heated races, my predictions

Angle wins by a thread
Murkowski beats Miller
Coons wins by a landslide over O'Donnell
Cuomo embarasses Paladino
Boxer holds on by about 3 points
Moonbeam beats Whitman by about 7 points
Blumenthal wins over Linda by a closer margin than most are predicting. 3 points.

[Dude!]

Feingold wins by 2. Write it on a rock.

i did....
but he lost by 7
so you were off 9
oh great Kreskin

[epo]

Well, I was wrong. The internal numbers were wrong and the national wave hit Wisconsin hard.

I'll never understand Ron Johnson getting elected over Feingold, as Johnson is the emptiest suit I've seen in a long, long time.

[keithy_19]

Well, I was wrong. The internal numbers were wrong and the national wave hit Wisconsin hard.

I'll never understand Ron Johnson getting elected over Feingold, as Johnson is the emptiest suit I've seen in a long, long time.

But you have to admit that Ron Johnson sounds bad ass.

[Dude!]

I'll never understand Ron Johnson getting elected over Feingold, as Johnson is the emptiest suit I've seen in a long, long time.

apparently you've never met
Senator Ron Wyden

[A.J.]

Sorry, I've been extremely busy getting everything in order for Tuesday.

Feingold wins by 2. Write it on a rock.

Whatever you say, Hippo.

That's just cruel.

Cruel but accurate.

Now let's see what happens with your Prince Fielder prediction. :devil2:

[newport king]

so it looks like the dems got their shit kicked in no?

[foodcourtdruide]

So two and four years ago there were drastic changes in government because the people were "fed up" with the republicans. Now TWO YEARS LATER, the same is happening with the democrats... Anyone else seeing a pattern here? We're dumb as fuck.

[Barnaby Jones]

So two and four years ago there were drastic changes in government because the people were "fed up" with the republicans. Now TWO YEARS LATER, the same is happening with the democrats... Anyone else seeing a pattern here? We're dumb as fuck.

Yup!

Man, what a boring election! Nate Silver nailed the predictions yet again!

[foodcourtdruide]

Yup!

Man, what a boring election! Nate Silver nailed the predictions yet again!

I said it before, until the politicians or the media change their idiotic and over-reactionary approach nothing will change. We want turmoil. We want conflict.

[epo]

apparently you've never met
Senator Ron Wyden

I trump your empty suit! This was how Ron Johnson started his acceptance speech last night.

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:wallbash:

[Serpico1103]

I trump your empty suit! This was how Ron Johnson started his acceptance speech last night.

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:wallbash:

I hate "simple folk." They apparently hate us, big city folk.

[Dude!]

I trump your empty suit! This was how Ron Johnson started his acceptance speech last night.

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:wallbash:

i see your point

[hanso]

After three terms Ron Klein lost :down:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Congress needs more Ron and Rand Paul's


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/08/2010-11-08_rand_gets_specific_on_budget_cuts_fed_pay_soc_s ec_on_his_list.html

[Willmore]

Congress needs more Ron and Rand Paul's


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/08/2010-11-08_rand_gets_specific_on_budget_cuts_fed_pay_soc_s ec_on_his_list.html

Cut Federal Pay, Social Security, Medicare, Military Budget.

OK, so he's lost the vote of every federal employee, old person, poor person. Fort Campbell and Fort Knox seem like good places to trim the military budget, so that's another 100,000 or so votes.

What's left? How in the world does Kentucky elect a person who immediately fucks them in the ass?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cut Federal Pay, Social Security, Medicare, Military Budget.

OK, so he's lost the vote of every federal employee, old person, poor person. Fort Campbell and Fort Knox seem like good places to trim the military budget, so that's another 100,000 or so votes.

What's left? How in the world does Kentucky elect a person who immediately fucks them in the ass?

The zero liability voters and many Federal employees vote for the Dems. Many federal employees are basically redundant paper pushers and bean counters I saw his interview on This Week He doesnt want to cut soldiers/sailors etc pay he doesnt want the military industrial complex to continue, neither does he want nation building and unnessary wars this is something that most of us can agree with. The only people he would get angry are defense contractors

Social Security is a ponzi scheme. It's insolvent. No trust fund exists, basically some IOUs are being stored away. I have 30 years until I retire and I will NEVER receive one dime I put into it.

Medicare is also another waste of money which caused unintended consequences, they did not factor that people back in 1965 would be living until age 80.

Texas wants to drop out of Medicaid, More states should do this


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/us/politics/07ttmedicaid.html?src=me&ref=us

[Dudeman]

Johnson is the emptiest suit I've seen in a long, long time.

http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/bush-flightsuit.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/bush-flightsuit.jpg

Speaking of empty suits

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/3104871180_839ed8b5c2_o.jpg

[Dudeman]

Speaking of empty suits


http://sirchumpsalot.unsquare.com/ronpaul.jpg

[Dudeman]

Speaking of empty suits

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/3104871180_839ed8b5c2_o.jpg

Yes, comparing a show of respect for other cultures with a staged photo-op for an unjustified war.

[Pitdoc]

The zero liability voters and many Federal employees vote for the Dems. Many federal employees are basically redundant paper pushers and bean counters I saw his interview on This Week He doesnt want to cut soldiers/sailors etc pay he doesnt want the military industrial complex to continue, neither does he want nation building and unnessary wars this is something that most of us can agree with. The only people he would get angry are defense contractors

Social Security is a ponzi scheme. It's insolvent. No trust fund exists, basically some IOUs are being stored away. I have 30 years until I retire and I will NEVER receive one dime I put into it.

Medicare is also another waste of money which caused unintended consequences, they did not factor that people back in 1965 would be living until age 80.

Texas wants to drop out of Medicaid, More states should do this


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/us/politics/07ttmedicaid.html?src=me&ref=us

I'm speaking from my point of view, of course, but obviously you don't understand Medicine. ALL states have laws that say "Patients cannot be refused emergency care because of inability to pay " . So, when Texas or other states cut their Medicaid, what happens? Well... one of 2 things ; 1. Every hospital in the state goes out of business, because every poor person who went to a clinic now will go to the emergency room for their medical care , and when your ER census QUADRUPLES with people who won't pay, you go out of business 2. Every hospital closes their emergency room , so they don't lose their shirts

Either way I( and every poor person) am FUCKED

Medicare needs to increase their premiums & raise their retirement ceiling. If life expectancy goes up, so should the retirement rate . The premiums have a ceiling after a certain point. My Medicare contribution stops around August of each year.After that ,I pay no more. It shouldn't be that way .

As for military spending, if the Defense secretary could cut shit that isn't needed , and even the MILITARY doesn't want , he'd save about 75 Billion.BUT, those defense contractors have plants in every state, so no Senator is going to cut jobs in his state.Gates is going nuts over this .

[A.J.]

a show of respect for other cultures

Sometimes it must be really, really hard to that.

http://blogs.smh.com.au/photographers/bogor.jpg

[Pitdoc]

..your boy Rand Paul has ALREADY done a 180 on earmarks .Now, he's saying he'll fight for earmarks for his state.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I'm speaking from my point of view, of course, but obviously you don't understand Medicine. ALL states have laws that say "Patients cannot be refused emergency care because of inability to pay " . So, when Texas or other states cut their Medicaid, what happens? Well... one of 2 things ; 1. Every hospital in the state goes out of business, because every poor person who went to a clinic now will go to the emergency room for their medical care , and when your ER census QUADRUPLES with people who won't pay, you go out of business 2. Every hospital closes their emergency room , so they don't lose their shirts

Either way I( and every poor person) am FUCKED

Medicare needs to increase their premiums & raise their retirement ceiling. If life expectancy goes up, so should the retirement rate . The premiums have a ceiling after a certain point. My Medicare contribution stops around August of each year.After that ,I pay no more. It shouldn't be that way .

As for military spending, if the Defense secretary could cut shit that isn't needed , and even the MILITARY doesn't want , he'd save about 75 Billion.BUT, those defense contractors have plants in every state, so no Senator is going to cut jobs in his state.Gates is going nuts over this .


Isn't this a simpler way to deal with healthcare? I am using Ron Pauls solutions because he's a medical doctor. Managed care and government intrusion does not work.

People like Pelosi know as much about medicine as I do

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm

[Pitdoc]

Isn't this a simpler way to deal with healthcare? I am using Ron Pauls solutions because he's a medical doctor. Managed care and government intrusion does not work.

People like Pelosi know as much about medicine as I do

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm

Looking at the page now. Hoo boy.
1. Replace Medicare with volunteer pro-bono medical care? Yes, sell THAT to organized Medicine. Lets flip that.Should you take a paycut (= "pro bono") of 40% to help out the country? Won't happen.
2. Private Medical Savings account- Works until you like, get sick, then everybody with cancer / major disease DIES.Or is that what Ron's looking for?
3. Insurance companies & govt make healthcare unaffordable.Well, both Medicare AND insurance companies are setting the price. But the insurance companies also set the price LOW ,while the pharma/med companies also set the prices LOW.BOTH groups have lobbies in congress.
5.Socialized Medicine won't work ; Neither will managed care. Uhh, well, socialized medicine DOES work. Look at the WHO's list of best medical care in the world (That's for ALL medical care, not just for shiny machines & hospitals). All the one's on the top have socialized medicine.What he means is it wont work HERE, as congress AND the presidency is bought & paid for. The first thing that went out the window was single payer in Obama's healthcare reform .It would have saved the most money, but lost the pharma/insurance companies billions.So..poof..

[Pitdoc]

Isn't this a simpler way to deal with healthcare? I am using Ron Pauls solutions because he's a medical doctor. Managed care and government intrusion does not work.

People like Pelosi know as much about medicine as I do

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm

Looking at the page now. Hoo boy.
1. Replace Medicare with volunteer pro-bono medical care? Yes, sell THAT to organized Medicine. Lets flip that.Should you take a paycut (= "pro bono") of 40% to help out the country? Won't happen.
2. Private Medical Savings account- Works until you like, get sick, then everybody with cancer / major disease DIES.Or is that what Ron's looking for?
3. Insurance companies & govt make healthcare unaffordable.Well, both Medicare AND insurance companies are setting the price. But the insurance companies also set the price LOW ,while the pharma/med companies also set the prices LOW.BOTH groups have lobbies in congress.
5.Socialized Medicine won't work ; Neither will managed care. Uhh, well, socialized medicine DOES work. Look at the WHO's list of best medical care in the world (That's for ALL medical care, not just for shiny machines & hospitals). All the one's on the top have socialized medicine.What he means is it wont work HERE, as congress AND the presidency is bought & paid for. The first thing that went out the window was single payer in Obama's healthcare reform .It would have saved the most money, but lost the pharma/insurance companies billions.So..poof..

[Dude!]

Speaking of empty suits

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/3104871180_839ed8b5c2_o.jpg

he looks so natural
in those clothes

it's almost as if
it's his native garb

oh wait...

[Dudeman]

Isn't this a simpler way to deal with healthcare? I am using Ron Pauls solutions because he's a medical doctor.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm

1. he's just one doctor. the majority disagree with him.

2. one of my colleagues is from kentucky. her brother is an ophthamologist there. There aren't many ophtho's in Ky, so they know of one another. Rand is known as a poor physician, to say the least. Yes, you can make jokes about what your boyfriend's cousin's roomate's sister said about something, but then look at my point #3... Rand's not even board fucking certified.

3. Look at this shit about Rand's doctoring skills... he is an embarrassment to the profession:

I even took the link from Foxnews, even though they try to put a non-negative slant on the situation. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/14/rand-pauls-doctor-credentials-questioned-lacking-boards-certification/)

Your boy couldn't get board certified- they most essential licensing criteria for practicing medicine .

[Dudeman]

Bringing up Rand's doctoring is the last thing a supporter of his should ever do:

"U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul says he is a “board-certified” ophthalmologist — even though the national clearinghouse for such certifications says he hasn’t been for the past five years.

Rand Paul, who practices in Bowling Green, says he is certified by the National Board of Ophthalmology, a group that he incorporated in 1999 and that he heads.

But that entity is not recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties, which works with the American Medical Association to approve such specialty boards.

So Rand Paul created his own board of ophthalmology, created an “address” for the board at a UPS store in Bowling Green, put his wife on the board as Vice President (she claims not to have done anything on the board) and certified himself":thumbup:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

1. he's just one doctor. the majority disagree with him.

2. one of my colleagues is from kentucky. her brother is an ophthamologist there. There aren't many ophtho's in Ky, so they know of one another. Rand is known as a poor physician, to say the least. Yes, you can make jokes about what your boyfriend's cousin's roomate's sister said about something, but then look at my point #3... Rand's not even board fucking certified.

3. Look at this shit about Rand's doctoring skills... he is an embarrassment to the profession:

I even took the link from Foxnews, even though they try to put a non-negative slant on the situation. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/14/rand-pauls-doctor-credentials-questioned-lacking-boards-certification/)

Your boy couldn't get board certified- they most essential licensing criteria for practicing medicine .

The link I posted was from Doctor Ron Paul

[Dudeman]

The link I posted was from NOT Board Certified Doctor Ron Paul

fixed

anyone who wants their medical care from an MD that doesn't have their Medical Board certification is crazy

[WRESTLINGFAN]

fixed

anyone who wants their medical care from an MD that doesn't have their Medical Board certification is crazy

Youre making it out to be that he got his degree from the Univ of Phoenix online


"Paul, a graduate of Duke University’s medical school, said he was board certified under the American Board of Ophthalmology for a decade. Paul has been licensed to practice in Kentucky since 1993."

In the late 1990s, Paul was a driving force behind forming the National Board of Ophthalmology to protest the ABO’s exemption policy.

http://bluegrasspolitics.bloginky.com/2010/06/14/paul-lashes-out-over-medical-certification-issue/

Anyone who thinks Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are experts in the field of medicine doesn't deserve to receive a fucking band aid for a cut on their finger

[Dudeman]

Youre making it out to be that he got his degree from the Univ of Phoenix online


"Paul, a graduate of Duke University’s medical school, said he was board certified under the American Board of Ophthalmology for a decade. Paul has been licensed to practice in Kentucky since 1993."

In the late 1990s, Paul was a driving force behind forming the National Board of Ophthalmology to protest the ABO’s exemption policy.


Ron Paul- graduate of Duke medical school.

There are many ways to get into med school- being smart is one way. But neptotism is huge in med school admissions. And then the dirty secret of med school is P=MD. So at the very least, everyone needs to pass their medical boards and get certified.

Pelosi and Obama have as much to do with health care policy as W, Boehner, Mcconnell, Gingrich, Hasert. By your argument that any MD who holds an elected office should be the end all be all of determining health care policy means you agree with everything howard dean did as vermont governor.

Bottom line- Rand didn't get Board certified AND made up a fake organization with some lame ass excuse for needing to do so. As you said, he wanted an "exemption" to get board certified- just take pass your Board exam and get certified; don't look for exemptions.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So Bloomberg thinks that the incoming members of congress have never traveled outside the US or does not know where China is. This coming from a man who thought the Times Sq. wanna be bomber was an upset teabagger mad abut Obamacare. Congrats NYC voters keep voting in mini dictators like him

[Dudeman]

I am using Ron Pauls solutions because he's a medical doctor. Managed care and government intrusion does not work.

People like Pelosi know as much about medicine as I do

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Health_Care.htm

From this week's New England Journal of Medicine regarding The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act:

"Overturning the law would effectively de-insure 32 million Americans, deregulate the insurance industry, strip insured persons of coverage protections and enhanced benefits, and worsen the projected federal budget deficit — all while the number of people without insurance gallops upward, along with premium prices"

So if you're following the medical profession instead of Pelosi, it looks like it is the New England Journal of Medicine versus Rand Paul, a guy who couldn't pass his medical board recertification so he made up a fake organization to give him a fake license. :smile:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Costs to go down? Not so fast


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703652104574652563562216036.html


Good luck finding a hospital thats open


http://www.openmarket.org/2010/04/26/obamacare-will-raise-insurance-premiums-and-health-care-costs-perhaps-bankrupt-hospitals-federal-officials-admit/