Olbermann..... SUSPENDED

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Could this be the 1st step of the comcast takeover?



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021940-503544.html

[Dudeman]

Could this be the 1st step of the comcast takeover?



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021940-503544.html

who cares. no one watches

[Furtherman]

Wait... Olbermann is a Democrat?! :blink:

[Dude!]

OMG
his mommy and his cat
are going to starve!

[Freitag]

who cares. no one watches

Actually, you'd be surprised. Olbermann is the one anchor of that net. People watch him. Not a lot, but he's literally the big fish in the little pond.

That said, who knew journalistic integrity would be a big deal - especially in cable TV news?!

[Freitag]

OMG
his mommy and his cat
are going to starve!

isn't his mom dead?

[Snacks]

its ridiculous that they even have that rile in place. every american no matter what job they have should be allowed to personally donate money to whoever they want. New organizations such as fox news shouldnt be allowed to donate to candidates but their news anchors themselves should be allowed.

I wonder if fox has these rules for their people? I could have sworn I remember Oreilly mentioning who he has given money to in the past. either way they all hsould be able to do so.

[Dude!]

isn't his mom dead?

whoops...i just checked
and yes, she died in 2009

too bad, now he only has
the cat to keep him warm
in bed

[A.J.]

isn't his mom dead?

whoops...i just checked
and yes, she died in 2009

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

So is the head of NBC news the Worst Person in the World?

[Zorro]

It's not a shock that he donated, but it was really stupid not to disclose. Judge not others lest ye be judged or some stupid shit like that.

[Pitdoc]

..but the big question is , did he donate to them BEFORE or AFTER the interview.Do it after ,there's no "conflict of interest".Do it before ,and it could be construed as such. Still, having to ask permission before doing something that any American could do? I guess MSNBC is STILL trying to pass themself off as "fair" .NO!! They're left-leaning( and I'm a fucking LIBERAL) . Nothing wrong with playing to a certain demographic , it's the hypocritical lying that you're NOT. I'm sure Fox REQUIRES their commentators to donate to conservative causes.

[Zorro]

..but the big question is , did he donate to them BEFORE or AFTER the interview.Do it after ,there's no "conflict of interest".Do it before ,and it could be construed as such. Still, having to ask permission before doing something that any American could do? I guess MSNBC is STILL trying to pass themself off as "fair" .NO!! They're left-leaning( and I'm a fucking LIBERAL) . Nothing wrong with playing to a certain demographic , it's the hypocritical lying that you're NOT. I'm sure Fox REQUIRES their commentators to donate to conservative causes.

It's not about Fox it's about NBC vs MSNBC.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think eventually Olbermann will either be fired or he just might leave. He has had problems in the past with them. Also MSNBC had such dismal analysis on Tuesday night. He's their top anchor in regards to viewers and ratings so he could be the fall guy.

If the comcast deal goes thru and MSNBC decides to go another route, The MSNBC hosts some of them could end up at CNN as their ratings have plummeted

[keithy_19]

whoops...i just checked
and yes, she died in 2009


It is finished.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/07/alg_knoblauch-gestures.jpg

[Barnaby Jones]

I'd love to see Olbermann off the air, but I'm cracking up over how silent certain people on the Right and Fox is over this!!! So they flip out over Dr. Laura and Juan Williams and the like and people like Palin sound like morons crying about the "right the free speech" being violated by them being fired or taken off the air, yet nary a peep over this!!! What a bunch of hypocritical, willfully ignorant jackholes!!!

[Suspect Chin]

i
I wonder if fox has these rules for their people?

They don't. I'm too lazy to find the article right now but I read earlier that FOX allows its employees to give to whoever they want. Rupert Murdoch is apparently a huge contributor.

NPR is so anal about it, they wouldn't even let their employees attend the John Stewart rally in D.C.

[keithy_19]

I'd love to see Olbermann off the air, but I'm cracking up over how silent certain people on the Right and Fox is over this!!! So they flip out over Dr. Laura and Juan Williams and the like and people like Palin sound like morons crying about the "right the free speech" being violated by them being fired or taken off the air, yet nary a peep over this!!! What a bunch of hypocritical, willfully ignorant jackholes!!!

I think that someone should be able to contribute to who they want, but if they have a policy that doesn't allow that then the person who violates that policy faces what ever punishment they have.

[Barnaby Jones]

I think that someone should be able to contribute to who they want, but if they have a policy that doesn't allow that then the person who violates that policy faces what ever punishment they have.

I agree (though their policy was that donations had to be approved, not that they couldn't do it at all)!!! I'm just amused that the usual idiots are not rolling out their bullshit for Olbermann!!! What a bunch of hacks!!!!

[angrytruckingguy]

I've never cared for him, but is the only problem that he didn't disclose to his employer? Did he conceal it from them? If so that's kind of a chickenshit move. A reprimand and public apology should have been enough. More facts to come?

[Ogre]

I don't like the guy. I don't like his whole nasty attack dog gimmick. However he wears who is is and what he believes in on his sleeve. It should not surprise anyone that he made donations such as these. He should be able to donate to who ever he wishes, as long as he quits trying to pass himself off as an unbiased journalist, and admits he is an opinion hack that is a photo negative of the ones on Fox.

He's a dick, but he has a right to his opinions and to back politicians that share his view. I have to laugh that the head of NBC fired Olberman and the first think everyone does is drag Fox News into it for comparision.

The Head of NBC sacked Olby, not the Conservative Boogeyman.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'd love to see Olbermann off the air, but I'm cracking up over how silent certain people on the Right and Fox is over this!!! So they flip out over Dr. Laura and Juan Williams and the like and people like Palin sound like morons crying about the "right the free speech" being violated by them being fired or taken off the air, yet nary a peep over this!!! What a bunch of hypocritical, willfully ignorant jackholes!!!

It's not freedom of speech, it's journalistic ethics. Know the issue before you talk.

That said, NBC doing this is a really fucking weak move.

[epo]

I agree (though their policy was that donations had to be approved, not that they couldn't do it at all)!!! I'm just amused that the usual idiots are not rolling out their bullshit for Olbermann!!! What a bunch of hacks!!!!

Which is the hilarious angle of the right. The NAACP defended Limbaugh when he got into trouble, but the true right wing hacks don't defend a lefty when they step into trouble.

Don't get me wrong, Olbermann doesn't do himself favors...but its a serious double standard on the right.

[PapaBear]

They don't. I'm too lazy to find the article right now but I read earlier that FOX allows its employees to give to whoever they want. Rupert Murdoch is apparently a huge contributor.

NPR is so anal about it, they wouldn't even let their employees attend the John Stewart rally in D.C.
News Corp gave one million dollars to the Republican Governors Association for one thing. I'm sure there have been other donations.

[spoon]

Which is the hilarious angle of the right. The NAACP defended Limbaugh when he got into trouble, but the true right wing hacks don't defend a lefty when they step into.

Don't get me wrong, Olbermann doesn't do himself favors...but its a serious double standard on the right.

What part of Donald Fleischman's actions out there, not to mention oh so many others in the republican party didn't show you that they embody the very meaning of double standard?

[spoon]

News Corp gave one million dollars to the Republican Governors Association for one thing. I'm sure there have been other donations.

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I gave'em about tree fiddy.

[PapaBear]

I gave'em about tree fiddy.
Never trust the father of a Scientologist.

[Barnaby Jones]

It's not freedom of speech, it's journalistic ethics. Know the issue before you talk.

Do you not get sarcasm at all?!?!?!? I was obviously making fun of how people like Palin bitched about violations of "freedom of speech" over Juan Williams and Dr. Laura!!!! Try knowing what the fuck you're talking about, champ!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh::lau gh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laug h:

[spoon]

here we go!

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's no secret that Keith Olbermann is one of the most notoriously diva-like people in TV news, Ridiculously hard to work with.

I've read a couple of things that NBC was trying to get rid of him, and this gave them the excuse they were looking for.

[KnoxHarrington]

I'm trying to scrounge up some outrage over this, and I just can't. This shouldn't be any sort of shocker to anyone, no more so than if it came out that Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly gave money to Republicans. Olbermann is not an impartial "journalist" -- he's a liberal commentator. Of course he gives money to candidates. He has definitely taken a side in the political debate.

In the larger sense, I think it might be better for the media to lose this illusion of "impartiality" anyway. I think the media has been cowed into treating political news with kid gloves by being attacked as "liberal media" over and over. A good example I can think of is the whole mess around the Tea Party: the "Mainstream Media" should have been asking tough questions about how much support this movement really has, and who's paying its bills. Instead, they pussied out of that sort of coverage, treated it like anything else, and I think really legitimized it in a way it should not have been. It's a bullshit astroturf movement that became real when the "MSM" treated it as real for fear of Sarah Palin saying mean things about them.

[pennington]

It's no secret that Keith Olbermann is one of the most notoriously diva-like people in TV news, Ridiculously hard to work with.

I've read a couple of things that NBC was trying to get rid of him, and this gave them the excuse they were looking for.

My first thought too was that NBC was using this as a reason to get rid of him. If nothing else, it's good publicity for his show. He'll have a couple of weeks vacation and have better ratings when he returns (for a week or so anyway).

[Crash]

If MSNBC has a corporate rule that you can't donate without permission, then fine, he was wrong. What I find funny is that the reaction by the network seems intended to portray MSNBC as having journalistic integrity. Really? Keith Olbermann is an objective journalist? No, he's an entertainer. The person who should be the most pissed about this is Brian Williams because it implies that Olbermann and Williams are part of a similar tradition and tries to elevate Olbermann to the status of newsman.

In the New York Times article yesterday, Rachel Maddow was quoted as saying "Fox News is a 'political operation' while MSNBC is a 'news operation',". No, you're not. Neither of you are. You're entertainers preaching to your own congregations. To say you're journalists is like saying Tom Cruise is a CIA Operative because he makes Mission Impossible movies. You're pretending.

Don't get me wrong, I don't watch FOX for exactly the same reasons.

By the way, for what it's worth, Olbermann's show is apparently a money maker for the network. Again, from the Times article: "Mr. Olbermann’s program, 'Countdown,' is the most popular hour on MSNBC, with about 1.1 million viewers a night."

[Pitdoc]

He gets them good ratings, which is really all NBC cares about . He'll get a one or two week suspension, and be back, apologizing in his final segment of his first show( which I am SURE he'll turn this against FOX, which has no such "standards"). I hear he's a major diva, and its why I like his humorous stuff more than his serious stuff ( I actually love his "Worst Person in the World" bit every night, and they just suspended that, to appear more "sane" ) .But I actually like Rachel Maddow a lot more than Olberman .She appears saner, has a more humorous spin on a lot of things, and actually can ARGUE about a subject, not just pontificate.I listened to her on Air America for years,and she was the only on who had DAILY items on the Iraq war .

[Pitdoc]

If MSNBC has a corporate rule that you can't donate without permission, then fine, he was wrong. What I find funny is that the reaction by the network seems intended to portray MSNBC as having journalistic integrity. Really? Keith Olbermann is an objective journalist? No, he's an entertainer. The person who should be the most pissed about this is Brian Williams because it implies that Olbermann and Williams are part of a similar tradition and tries to elevate Olbermann to the status of newsman.

In the New York Times article yesterday, Rachel Maddow was quoted as saying "Fox News is a 'political operation' while MSNBC is a 'news operation',". No, you're not. Neither of you are. You're entertainers preaching to your own congregations. To say you're journalists is like saying Tom Cruise is a CIA Operative because he makes Mission Impossible movies. You're pretending.

Don't get me wrong, I don't watch FOX for exactly the same reasons.

By the way, for what it's worth, Olbermann's show is apparently a money maker for the network. Again, from the Times article: "Mr. Olbermann’s program, 'Countdown,' is the most popular hour on MSNBC, with about 1.1 million viewers a night."

I might disagree(slightly ) with you, and it's about what Bill Maher brought up on his show this weekend.Fox and MSNBC are NOT "mirror images" . I'm using Rachel Maddow here more than Olberman, but when she argues a point , she has FACTS on her side ,as opposed to "people are saying" .Lately its been pointed out that Fox uses a lot of "a recent article shows that" or "a majority of Americans" .Well that "recent article" was written by a right wing blogger , and the "majority of Americans" were Americans polled by Fox or a right -wing poller. when Maddow uses information,its coming from the CBO or GAO, which are non-partisan , realistic FACTS, not opinions ,or twisted shit. For years ,O'Reilly used "people are saying " ... and then go into his point . Well, he doesn't use that as much, because its been shown that those "people" were people on Fox who started that rumor that morning, and he passes it off as gospel.
Maher said it best , " People equate that the Right calling Obama a Socialist is like the Left calling Bush Hitler.But you cant find one member of Congress who calls Bush Hitler, while EVERY Republican calls Obama a Socialist (and , to stop all those trolls, until we do away with Medicare & Social Security,,and all old people are dying while eating cat food, EVERY president is a Socialist)

[Dude!]

People equate that the Right calling Obama a Socialist is like the Left calling Bush Hitler.But you cant find one member of Congress who calls Bush Hitler, while EVERY Republican calls Obama a Socialist (and , to stop all those trolls, until we do away with Medicare & Social Security,,and all old people are dying while eating cat food, EVERY president is a Socialist)

that is so off the mark

"nazi" is the harshest
form of the right
and Hitler was the worst
example of that

communism is the harshest
form of the left
and stalin or mao or pol pot
would be the worst examples
of that

what member of congress
has called obama
stalin
mao
or pol pot?

[Dudeman]

what member of congress
has called obama
stalin
mao
or pol pot?

we're talking about right vs. left. sont limit it to congress... this is clearly a thread about media.

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[Dudeman]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/TD3b-ZXtx6I/AAAAAAAADOk/KQRKAOxsMfE/s1600/HitlerObamabillboard.jpg

the tea party doesnt stick to your terms of only counting hitler as extreme right. in fact your attempt to limit the discussion in that way might be the worst rhetorical trick youve attempted on this board, and thats saying alot.

[Pitdoc]

that is so off the mark

"nazi" is the harshest
form of the right
and Hitler was the worst
example of that

communism is the harshest
form of the left
and stalin or mao or pol pot
would be the worst examples
of that

what member of congress
has called obama
stalin
mao
or pol pot?

Haven't you heard? Ronald Reagan KILLED Communism ( No , actually Mikhail Gobachev helped to kill Communism, 2 yrs after Reagan was out of office, but make one (good) speech ,and you've saved the world) .

So, what does that leave to be vewwy vewwy afraid of? ...SOCIALISM!!!!
So they tar Obama with socialism .Guess what, we are a country that has socialistic tendencies( Social Security ,Medicare).Communism was about re-education & fealty to the State, but some far -right blogs still paint him as a "far Socialist = Communist" .He tries to get more Americans health insurance = "HE'S A SOCIALIST" (1. He made this as REVENUE neutral as much as he could , though in reality , its going to cost money . 2. Bush passed through a 1.3 TRILLION UNFUNDED prescription plan in 2005, and nobody on the Right is calling HIM a socialist) .
However, painting a Hitler mustache on a picture of Obama is OH so cool . Face it, a lot of the maroons who write this sign don't REMEMBER Stalin or Pol Pot ; They 're not as "sexy" as Hitler, even though Stalin was as bad or worse. .Let's settle this. NOBODY in American politics is Hitler.Not Bush, Not Obama .Lets start with that

[Snacks]

I might disagree(slightly ) with you, and it's about what Bill Maher brought up on his show this weekend.Fox and MSNBC are NOT "mirror images" . I'm using Rachel Maddow here more than Olberman, but when she argues a point , she has FACTS on her side ,as opposed to "people are saying" .Lately its been pointed out that Fox uses a lot of "a recent article shows that" or "a majority of Americans" .Well that "recent article" was written by a right wing blogger , and the "majority of Americans" were Americans polled by Fox or a right -wing poller. when Maddow uses information,its coming from the CBO or GAO, which are non-partisan , realistic FACTS, not opinions ,or twisted shit. For years ,O'Reilly used "people are saying " ... and then go into his point . Well, he doesn't use that as much, because its been shown that those "people" were people on Fox who started that rumor that morning, and he passes it off as gospel.
Maher said it best , " People equate that the Right calling Obama a Socialist is like the Left calling Bush Hitler.But you cant find one member of Congress who calls Bush Hitler, while EVERY Republican calls Obama a Socialist (and , to stop all those trolls, until we do away with Medicare & Social Security,,and all old people are dying while eating cat food, EVERY president is a Socialist)

loved this last night and oreilly had no defense for it. and that is the systematic difference between right wing talk shows and left wing talk shows as well as the difference between republicans in office and dems in office.

I also loved last night when he said how much dems are pussies and back down. his example of polling. he said dems want to do something and see that it is polling at 40% and back off because its not getting the majority support so they gets scared away. when the repubs are doing something that is polling at 40% they suck fuck it and the entire party goes full force on talk shows to get that % to poll up to 55%. The repubs are so much better at getting the avg retarded american to sway to their opinion even if it doesnt help the majority of people.

Another thing that was spot on last night was his example of how the right continues to move the middle to the right and expect the left to move more and more to the right calling that the middle.:wallbash:

[Dude!]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Xn_O-mM2sFk/TD3b-ZXtx6I/AAAAAAAADOk/KQRKAOxsMfE/s1600/HitlerObamabillboard.jpg

the tea party doesnt stick to your terms of only counting hitler as extreme right. in fact your attempt to limit the discussion in that way might be the worst rhetorical trick youve attempted on this board, and thats saying alot.

i wasn't limiting anything
i was responding to a specific
statement made by pitdoc
and quite well, at that

when you get your IQ
up over 70, please respond

[Dudeman]

i wasn't limiting anything
i was responding to a specific
statement made by pitdoc
and quite well, at that

when you get your IQ
up over 70, please respond

done

[Dude!]

done

70.5 doesn't count

[Dudeman]

70.5 doesn't count

you said over 70. why wouldn't 70.5 count? that's fuzzy math.

[Dude!]

you said over 70. why wouldn't 70.5 count? that's fuzzy math.

not at all...
i truncate numbers

70.5 is therefore 70
and 70 is not over 70

why am i so smart?
genius is pain

[Dudeman]

i truncate numbers



like i said, fuzzy math

[Pitdoc]

like i said, fuzzy math

Its the same kind of math that says Obama is taking 10% of the American Navy with him to India,and spending 200 mil a day

[pennington]

Olbermann's suspension has ended and he will return tomorrow (Tuesday). I'm sure somehow he'll blame Fox News/George Bush/Republicans for this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/08/AR2010110802892.html

[hanso]

Its the same kind of math that says Obama is taking 10% of the American Navy with him to India,and spending 200 mil a day

That's FNC reporting what ever pops up on asian web sites verbatim.

[Knowledged_one]

Which is the hilarious angle of the right. The NAACP defended Limbaugh when he got into trouble, but the true right wing hacks don't defend a lefty when they step into trouble.

Don't get me wrong, Olbermann doesn't do himself favors...but its a serious double standard on the right.

I missed your ultra left wing ways and thought to myself on election night oh how disappointed epos must be