Dont touch my junk

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well thanks to the ever increasing police state and civil liberties violations.. This guy is becoming famous because he is taking a stand against the overbearing TSA part of the DHS.


http://newsroom.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/15/dont-touch-my-junk/

Big sis Janet Napolitano weighed in on this. PUN INTENDED


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20022809-503544.html

[Dude!]

She also pointed out that the privacy of travelers is protected through "rigorous" safeguards. "All images generated by imaging technology are viewed in a walled-off location not visible to the public. The officer assisting the passenger never sees the image, and the officer viewing the image never interacts with the passenger. The imaging technology that we use cannot store, export, print or transmit images," she continued.


who believes this?

i wouldn't be surprised if
all the teen cock pics
are emailed immediately
to NAMBLA

and who doubts
that Butch Napolitano
saves the tit pics
for herself?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We will never have to worry about Big sis touching any mans junk

[Dude!]

TSA degrading a nun

does TSA only
hire sickos?

http://www.drudgereport.com/tsa.jpg

[Barnaby Jones]

who believes this?

Non-insane people?!!

[Judge Smails]

TSA degrading a nun

does TSA only
hire sickos?

http://www.drudgereport.com/tsa.jpg

So fucking HOT!



That's gotta be a first in the history of the world - a molestation incident in which the Catholic clergy was on the recieving end. What a wonderful time we live in!

[Zorro]

TSA degrading a nun

does TSA only
hire sickos?

http://www.drudgereport.com/tsa.jpg

Yeah cause a nun's habit ain't the greatest disguise of all time

[Dude!]

if these pics are not saved
why are there so many
being posted every day?


http://www.drudgereport.com/tsa1.jpg

[Barnaby Jones]

Because there's numerous authorized sample pics out there, duh? You know, like the one posted to Drudge's page that you copied!!!!

[Dude!]

Because there's numerous authorized sample pics out there, duh? You know, like the one posted to Drudge's page that you copied!!!!

glad to see
you're a drudge fan

[Barnaby Jones]

Did you really think nobody would look at the address of the pic you posted?!?!

[hanso]

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8788/tsa20asleep251x300.jpg
This guy may think the pat downs are good, and he can now stay awake on the job.

[torker]

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8788/tsa20asleep251x300.jpg
This guy may think the pat downs are good, and he can now stay awake on the job.

looks like the dude with the orange fro from the TV commercial's dad:unsure:.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

looks like the dude with the orange fro from the TV commercial's dad:unsure:.

I didnt know Uncle Frank from Jimmy Kimmel live was moonlighting

[hanso]

I didnt know Uncle Frank from Jimmy Kimmel live was moonlighting

I miss those guys with cousin sal. Gonna have to grab that show.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We're All Libertarians Now!!!!!

[torker]

http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/1532-greyhound-bus.jpg

[PapaBear]

http://www.vagabondjourney.com/travelogue/wp-content/uploads/1532-greyhound-bus.jpg


You're still going to get felt up on a bus.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now we see what Big Sis Napilitano "CAIRS" about


http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

I have to retract a bit from a post saying that the administration should not be looked at for every single thing. But in this case. I want that fat dyke standing tall in front of Issa's committee

[A.J.]

Now we see what Big Sis Napilitano "CAIRS" about


http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

I have to retract a bit from a post saying that the administration should not be looked at for every single thing. But in this case. I want that fat dyke standing tall in front of Issa's committee

Why not just do what they do in the Middle East: women only lines with women inspectors. Seems to work just fine over there.

[Dude!]

Now we see what Big Sis Napilitano "CAIRS" about


http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=6687

I have to retract a bit from a post saying that the administration should not be looked at for every single thing. But in this case. I want that fat dyke standing tall in front of Issa's committee

just incredible

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why not just do what they do in the Middle East: women only lines with women inspectors. Seems to work just fine over there.

Or what the Israelis do, Seems to work pretty good for them

[torker]

Why not just do what they do in the Middle East: women only lines with women inspectors. Seems to work just fine over there.

We'd need a lot of clothes pins.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_7uP8EZ8lDjE/Sfbpye1rhHI/AAAAAAAAEqc/bexaIJbvJDw/stink.jpg

[Zorro]

Seriously this is such a bullshit issue. The first people that would be complaining if a white guy got a bomb on a plane are the same whiners that are pissed about a little pat down.

[Dude!]

Seriously this is such a bullshit issue. The first people that would be complaining if a white guy got a bomb on a plane are the same whiners that are pissed about a little pat down.

no, that is not true
there are better ways

i went to Germany on business
last year...security pulled me aside
for a special search

they took swabs and swabbed
my briefcase and my computer
and tested for explosives

it took all of 8 minutes....
they did not grab my cock
or fondle my balls
or take naked pictures of me

and yet they knew i had no bomb

[Death Metal Moe]

The problem is, that would actually take TIME and TRAINING. Instead, the government decided to just give the fucking mouth breathers they already had a lot of new power with minimal training. Ya know, to just give the illusion of "security."

[hanso]

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[torker]

Really they're quite fearful...
http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/4153_st1.jpg

[Judge Smails]

http://www.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/don__t_touch_my_junk.jpg

[furie]

who believes this?



i do because i've seen the equipment in use.

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/tsa-screening.jpg
it doesn't look like this. this was the prototype tto see if the technology worked.
now there are software filters to make the image look like this:
http://www.blogcdn.com/news.travel.aol.com/media/2010/09/autodetectmannequinl3sds.jpg

oooOOOooo! hot and revealing huh?

[sknight]

i do because i've seen the equipment in use.

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/tsa-screening.jpg
it doesn't look like this. this was the prototype tto see if the technology worked.
now there are software filters to make the image look like this:
http://www.blogcdn.com/news.travel.aol.com/media/2010/09/autodetectmannequinl3sds.jpg

oooOOOooo! hot and revealing huh?
First, it's not about how "revealing" the scans are- it's also about the exposure to radiation and cumulative exposure to radiation over a lifetime. We're working on reducing it now, since we're seeing the effects of x-rays and how people are exceeding lifetime dosing in short periods when in hospitals for instance. The TSA has not made public the exact amount, and if the scan doesn't come right, you go through again. These machines are being operated by untrained, UNLICENSED personnel, who are in no way trained to work with, and understand the dangers of radiation, which is why radiologists need such licenses.

Second, it's obtuse to think that "filtering software" means a raw, revealing scan is not entering the device and not available. They are, which is why cases of co-worker and passenger abuse is coming up. The pics are definitely available.

So the main thing is, we used to give people x-rays in shoe shops and kids used to be exposed to them for fun and games, then we learned those people were becoming ill, removed the devices, now we have them back again, but they are all of a sudden safe?

[TjM]

if these pics are not saved
why are there so many
being posted every day?


http://www.drudgereport.com/tsa1.jpg


RUN!!!

NAKED ZOMBIE INVASION!!

THE END IS UPON US!

[A.J.]

they did not grab my cock
or fondle my balls

I'm sorry to hear that.

[A.J.]

Great column by Charles Krauthammer on why this system is so fucking stupid. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/18/AR2010111804494.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

[TjM]

Krouthammer? Sound like a wrestling heel from the 1950's

[hanso]

The machines are said to have 10x the effects of an Xray. And plane crews/workers go though many times a day. Soon they will all be bald.

[Dude!]

Krouthammer? Sound like a wrestling heel from the 1950's

ha!

The Kraut Hammer =
German-Beater

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He's not the nutjob you progressives think he is. Bravo Dr Paul :thumbup:

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[Suspect Chin]

I don't buy the exposure to radiation theory because these machines don't penetrate the skin. If they did, you would see bones and internal organs on the scans, but instead you see the outer surface of the body. When you are in flight you are exposed to more radiation in one cross country flight than you will be for the rest of the year on the ground. And people are worried about a tiny dose of radiation right before a huge dose once they are airborne? However, even pilots stay below the annual allowable exposure threshold and they fly every day. It takes Chernobyl type doses of radiation to hit the annual threshold.

Lastly, the 'let's do what the Israelis do' argument is crap too. Sure, monitoring the backgrounds of potential terrorists will help but these new PETN bombs can easily get through current security undetected. How long will it take for Al-qaeda to figure out that they need someone with a spotless background to pull this off? No bomb sniffing dog, geiger counter, or background check is going to find them. I've had my laptop swabbed many times at American airports, so it's not unique to Germany. Those machines look for conventional explosives and radiation.

I consider myself a conservative and I've never hated my party more than right now. It shocks me that right wingers are against this 'violation of civil rights'. Conservatives supported the Patriot Act and wire taps but are outraged against a pat down? It is so obviously just a 'those in power' vs. 'those not in power' fight. I would bet that if Bush was in office, that the right would support this and the left would be outraged.

Security checks have been ramping up since the beginning of the airline industry. Why is this step suddenly the end of the line? In this society of demanding more and more government protection and handouts, how is this even an issue? The government is trying to make us safer and we're pissed about it?

[sailor]

I don't buy the exposure to radiation theory because these machines don't penetrate the skin.

david brenner, a columbia university radiology professor spoke with npr (http://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131447056/are-airport-scanners-safe) regarding the scanners and thinks they are unsafe and would switch to something called "millimeter wave scanners" which i've never heard of before.

[A.J.]

I don't buy the exposure to radiation theory because these machines don't penetrate the skin.

But what if something goes horribly wrong?

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/07/dr-david-banner-is-bill-bixby-in-the-incredible-hulk.jpg

[Suspect Chin]

david brenner, a columbia university radiology professor spoke with npr (http://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131447056/are-airport-scanners-safe) regarding the scanners and thinks they are unsafe and would switch to something called "millimeter wave scanners" which i've never heard of before.

Yeah well I saw a tea party sticker on Brenner's car when I was at Columbia so whatever.

[sknight]

They don't penetrate the skin, eh? Tell that to the people who develop melanoma due to repeated sun exposure.

[StanUpshaw]

Nobody tell him that your skin is on the outside of your body, kay?

[furie]

david brenner, a columbia university radiology professor spoke with npr (http://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131447056/are-airport-scanners-safe) regarding the scanners and thinks they are unsafe and would switch to something called "millimeter wave scanners" which i've never heard of before.

some airports use the millimeter wave machines too. they rolled out last year.
there are basically three competing companies and technologies competing to see which is best. eventually one will prove to be the best and the TSA will go with that company.

[hanso]

The Incredible Bulk is a TSA superhero.

[Suspect Chin]

david brenner, a columbia university radiology professor spoke with npr (http://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131447056/are-airport-scanners-safe) regarding the scanners and thinks they are unsafe and would switch to something called "millimeter wave scanners" which i've never heard of before.

Brenner doesn't exactly say that they are out and out unsafe. He says that he is concerned about masses of people being exposed to something that is mostly safe in low doses. Kinda like the flu vaccine--mostly safe but 1 in a million will have a negative reaction.

They don't penetrate the skin, eh? Tell that to the people who develop melanoma due to repeated sun exposure.

Sun exposure (UV rays) and x-rays are completely different forms of energy, obviously both are harmful in large or repeated doses. However, if you're worried about skin cancer, the millimeter wave machines (microwaves) are closer to UV waves (melanoma causing) than x-rays.

[underdog]

Great column by Charles Krauthammer on why this system is so fucking stupid. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/18/AR2010111804494.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)

The word Great should never proceed anything by Krauthammer.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[Dudeman]

The word Great should never proceed anything by Krauthammer.

how about "big douche"? :smile:

[StanUpshaw]

Unless this think can check the contents of your prison wallet, how is this keeping anyone the least bit safe?

[Philly Franko]

Kenny Powers RULES....

[hanso]

I read there has been testing of check points that have failed. Using an explosive powder that won't show up any other way but scans/pat downs.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[PapaBear]

Dont touch my junk OR, my SHIT! (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1653465/20101202/story.jhtml)

Legendary rapper Kurtis Blow was busted at LAX this morning after a TSA body scanner detected an item in his pocket — a stash of weed, TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ that the body scan detected “an anomaly’ in his pants.

[Dude!]

a TSA body scanner detected an item in his pocket — a stash of weed, TMZ has learned.

at least it wasn't blow

[Willmore]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/08/donna-derrico-baywatch-st_n_793909.html

It's one thing when you single out fat guys for the body scanner, but when you select former minor tv celebrities with a dozen plastic surgeries, you're crossing the line!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The massive police state has to expand so it can protect us from 95 yr old women with depends


I feel safer already AARP members are now terrorists accourding to the TSA.

These Jihadists must be laughing at what this country has become.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/27/national/main20074643.shtml

[Zorro]

Bomber in wheelchair kills 3 in Iraq


http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2011/06/27/wheelchair_bomber_kills_3_in_iraqi_police_station/

The first time some old broad in a wheelchair blows up an airplane all these whiny the TSA touches too much types will be screaming they should've checked her. Go fuck yourselves. We live in a dangerous world and if you choose to fly this is what you have to go through. Does it suck, yes, but safety has a price,

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The 95 year old woman has no intent to blow up a 757



The TSA will just come up with some more draconian practices. Like everyone with a wheelchair will be singled out. Thats how much of a pussified country we are, when something happens like fucking pansies we spend billions of dollars on inefficient policies that make no sense whatsoever

[TripleSkeet]

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2011/06/27/wheelchair_bomber_kills_3_in_iraqi_police_station/

The first time some old broad in a wheelchair blows up an airplane all these whiny the TSA touches too much types will be screaming they should've checked her. Go fuck yourselves. We live in a dangerous world and if you choose to fly this is what you have to go through. Does it suck, yes, but safety has a price,

Saftey isnt worth that price. Id rather take my chances.

Anyone that feels that way is a pussy and should just stay the fuck home if they are so afraid to fly. Live in youre fucking bubble.

[underdog]

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2011/06/27/wheelchair_bomber_kills_3_in_iraqi_police_station/

The first time some old broad in a wheelchair blows up an airplane all these whiny the TSA touches too much types will be screaming they should've checked her. Go fuck yourselves. We live in a dangerous world and if you choose to fly this is what you have to go through. Does it suck, yes, but safety has a price,

How often do you fly?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

6 Year old girls, they are a threat. 95 Year old women with depends run for your lives

Nigerian man with no ID multiple expired boarding passes, Welcome aboard


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/06/30/authorities-investigate-security-breach-at-jfk-airport-after-man-flies-to-los-angeles-without-ticket/

[Misteriosa]

Saftey isnt worth that price. Id rather take my chances.

Anyone that feels that way is a pussy and should just stay the fuck home if they are so afraid to fly. Live in youre fucking bubble.

:clap:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sk070111dAPR20110630094516.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

END THE TSA


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-calls-end-tsa-164222880.html

[Furtherman]

Oh good, so anyone can walk onto a plane. Perfect.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh good, so anyone can walk onto a plane. Perfect.

Yup, the TSA was on top of this.

http://news.yahoo.com/nigerian-man-sneaks-plane-invalid-pass-125203565.html

[booster11373]

END THE TSA


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-calls-end-tsa-164222880.html

Yup, the TSA was on top of this.

http://news.yahoo.com/nigerian-man-sneaks-plane-invalid-pass-125203565.html

PPYAHOOO!

[TripleSkeet]

END THE TSA


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-calls-end-tsa-164222880.html

Im all for this.

[spoon]

END THE TSA


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-calls-end-tsa-164222880.html

Oh good, so anyone can walk onto a plane. Perfect.

Can I change my vote?

Oh and Paul sounds as stupid as WF in this thread. I fly ALL the time and it's no big deal AT ALL. Sorry, his examples are filled with hyperbole and bullshit. We don't need to cut all these programs that serve solid fucking purposes, how about we actually tax corporate america and those in the top tax bracket like under Bush I or Clinton. Tax revs are at there lowest since the fucking 50's and we're in two f'n wars in a recession. It's not tough to figure out where the fucking money is wasted, and it's NOT on public servants and public safety gov orgs. For fuck's sake WF.

[TripleSkeet]

Oh good, so anyone can walk onto a plane. Perfect.

Yea, because regular security wasnt good enough for the last 50 years or so, right?

[TripleSkeet]

Can I change my vote?

Oh and Paul sounds as stupid as WF in this thread. I fly ALL the time and it's no big deal AT ALL. Sorry, his examples are filled with hyperbole and bullshit. We don't need to cut all these programs that serve solid fucking purposes, how about we actually tax corporate america and those in the top tax bracket like under Bush I or Clinton. Tax revs are at there lowest since the fucking 50's and we're in two f'n wars in a recession. It's not tough to figure out where the fucking money is wasted, and it's NOT on public servants and public safety gov orgs. For fuck's sake WF.

While I completely agree with your tax hike example I firmly disagree that the TSA serves a "solid fucking purpose".

[spoon]

Sure they could be better, but to say they DON'T serve a purpose is insane. I'd rather have something like this regulated by the gov versus some company only looking for profit.

[Jujubees2]

I agree to privatize airline security as soon as Congress votes to privatize security for themselves in the Capitol.

[spoon]

people do realize all the computing behind the scenes work the tsa does in conjunction with other government agencies right?

it's not just some guys patting us down in line at the airport

[spoon]

How often do you fly?

Saftey isnt worth that price. Id rather take my chances.

Anyone that feels that way is a pussy and should just stay the fuck home if they are so afraid to fly. Live in youre fucking bubble.

how often do you fly?

it takes minutes max to get through, how abused are we really? Is this really the issue in this country? It really is crazy we focus on such garbage versus real issues.

I'm so hopeful the next administration will just let God take the wheel and all will be ok. We won't be right until all is privatized and great/philanthropic corporations take over and the price of security goes through the roof and flights go up even more as fuel continues to climb. The good news is pilots are less and less experienced and get paid dirt now too. It's all heading in the right direction, less security is a must.

They better tackle abortion, gay marriage and other key issues too!

:wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sure they could be better, but to say they DON'T serve a purpose is insane. I'd rather have something like this regulated by the gov versus some company only looking for profit.

Do you think airline companies will allow not to have security? If Delta had numerous hijackings how long would they stay in business?


Do you actually feel safer taking your shoes off and having your shaving cream in your checked baggage?

[Furtherman]

Yea, because regular security wasnt good enough for the last 50 years or so, right?

Inconsequential to the last decade. To have no more pat downs or screenings is just stupid. A few instances aside, it's really not that big of a deal.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What happens if a bomb goes off at the Superbowl or at Penn station? you know damn well there will be draconian measures put in place where similar procedures will be done and more of the same will happen because thats how this pussified country reacts to everything

[furie]

What happens if a bomb goes off at the Superbowl or at Penn station?

Then Ron will finally get to make his movie idea "Murder at the Superbowl!"

[underdog]

how often do you fly?

it takes minutes max to get through, how abused are we really? Is this really the issue in this country? It really is crazy we focus on such garbage versus real issues.

I'm so hopeful the next administration will just let God take the wheel and all will be ok. We won't be right until all is privatized and great/philanthropic corporations take over and the price of security goes through the roof and flights go up even more as fuel continues to climb. The good news is pilots are less and less experienced and get paid dirt now too. It's all heading in the right direction, less security is a must.

They better tackle abortion, gay marriage and other key issues too!

:wallbash:

I was flying about every other week for about 6 months.

I don't think we need to disband the TSA. I just think the way they go at stuff is fucking retarded and the majority of the "safety measures" are for show. It's completely reactionary, most of the time, and serves no actual purpose. It's a safety theater, the new "measures" providing no actual safety.

The body scanner thing is the perfect example. It's so important and necessary, but you can opt out of it and get a pat down. I've gone through it THREE times in all of my flights. Other times, it's just the regular metal detector. No pat downs. But it's so important!

And if you are going through the body scanner, you have to take your shoes off still? Really? This machine can see through you, but it cannot see through a pair of Pumas?

[TripleSkeet]

I was flying about every other week for about 6 months.

I don't think we need to disband the TSA. I just think the way they go at stuff is fucking retarded and the majority of the "safety measures" are for show. It's completely reactionary, most of the time, and serves no actual purpose. It's a safety theater, the new "measures" providing no actual safety.

The body scanner thing is the perfect example. It's so important and necessary, but you can opt out of it and get a pat down. I've gone through it THREE times in all of my flights. Other times, it's just the regular metal detector. No pat downs. But it's so important!

And if you are going through the body scanner, you have to take your shoes off still? Really? This machine can see through you, but it cannot see through a pair of Pumas?

This. Its a waste of time and money. Put the fucking scanners up, and have 2 security guards standing by. If you dont want to go through them, you dont fly. Thats all. I dont really care what they do as long as its fast and it stops making it necessary to have to get to the airport 2 hours before a flight. Thats my biggest problem with them. The hassle and the enormous amount of time it takes.

All they are is an illusion to make the sheep feel safe. The only reason its safer to fly now then it was before 9/11 is because no passenger plane is going to allow itself to be hijacked ever again. Hijackings are as extinct as the dodo bird.

[A.J.]

END THE TSA


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:


http://news.yahoo.com/ron-paul-calls-end-tsa-164222880.html

I want Blackwater to handle security.

[disneyspy]

I want Blackwater to handle security.

i want hooters

[disneyspy]

every "guest" that hits a disney property in orlando is screened and most never know it,we should have them take over process

[spoon]

Hooters air! Remember that shit?

[disneyspy]

Hooters air! Remember that shit?

they earned their wings everyday

[Jujubees2]

http://i.a.cnn.net/money/galleries/2007/biz2/0701/gallery.where_are_they_now/images/hooters_air.jpg

[sailor]

Then Ron will finally get to make his movie idea "Murder at the Superbowl!"

Black Sunday?

[spoon]

For anyone that flies a lot, as I have about 20 flights per year, you DON'T have to be there 2 hours in advance. Either you're using that TS to make some bs point, or simply fly once a year. I got to the airport for my Cabo flight with 50 minutes to takeoff and breezed through it all. Recently my Hawaiian flight, 45 minutes and these aren't local quick trips. For my business flights to Florida, KC, Cali, Zona and others, I do about the same but take less chances bc it's on the company dollar. Simply put, I push the very limits of how long it takes to check baggage at the counter, confirm your seat and WALK to the gate. As if 2 hours is even that long for a flight if you have kids in tow. I f'n takes ~30 minutes just to board the plane as a whole. To me, the TSA is doing fine and the price of flights are low bc they do it versus corporate america/world.

[underdog]

For anyone that flies a lot, as I have about 20 flights per year, you DON'T have to be there 2 hours in advance. Either you're using that TS to make some bs point, or simply fly once a year. I got to the airport for my Cabo flight with 50 minutes to takeoff and breezed through it all. Recently my Hawaiian flight, 45 minutes and these aren't local quick trips. For my business flights to Florida, KC, Cali, Zona and others, I do about the same but take less chances bc it's on the company dollar. Simply put, I push the very limits of how long it takes to check baggage at the counter, confirm your seat and WALK to the gate. As if 2 hours is even that long for a flight if you have kids in tow. I f'n takes ~30 minutes just to board the plane as a whole. To me, the TSA is doing fine and the price of flights are low bc they do it versus corporate america/world.

If I fly jetblue, I have to get there almost 2 hours early, just because it's always so packed. It usually takes 20 - 30 minutes to check a bag and then 45min to an hour to get through security.

[foodcourtdruide]

Do you think airline companies will allow not to have security? If Delta had numerous hijackings how long would they stay in business?


So, in your perfect world, all government security measures would be removed, and the private institutions would be solely responsible for security. And the consumer would make informed decisions on which airline to fly based on the number of hijackings per year?

And you trust corporations more than government to make proactive decisions about customer safety?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So, in your perfect world, all government security measures would be removed, and the private institutions would be solely responsible for security. And the consumer would make informed decisions on which airline to fly based on the number of hijackings per year?

And you trust corporations more than government to make proactive decisions about customer safety?



In many other industries private security is done and its done much better than any government agency can do.


Congress shouldnt be nationalizing airport security

I trust the private sector over the government pertaining to safety any day

[spoon]

In many other industries private security is done and its done much better than any government agency can do.


Congress shouldnt be nationalizing airport security

I trust the private sector over the government pertaining to safety any day

ok great then dismantle our armed forces, police, fire fighters and more...ur smart

[spoon]

and we pretty much had similar situations with business policing itself where workers injuries were unbelievable, look no further then back a 100 years or so as most of the government protection agencies became completely necessary.

those coal companies surely cared completely for their workers! black lung amuck, huge explosions, mine cavings, digging into the floor of riverbeds and so much more in just this one industry. Yep, that does seem eerily reminiscent of the W Bush years in the white house as he rolled back these policies and or put money ahead of safety.

Yes, let's put more industry heads in charge of their own policing agencies, no wait WF has a better idea. Just let them do it from said company, nix the gov agencies all together bc they are ineffective under repubs as they purposely dismantle them. I get you now. You're just cutting out the excess as repubs destroy our safety in an effort to milk more money out of the middle class (soon to be poor).

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ok great then dismantle our armed forces, police, fire fighters and more...ur smart



Typical reactionary answer. I'll meet you halfway, how about giving the airlines the choice to use TSA or a private firm

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and we pretty much had similar situations with business policing itself where workers injuries were unbelievable, look no further then back a 100 years or so as most of the government protection agencies became completely necessary.

those coal companies surely cared completely for their workers! black lung amuck, huge explosions, mine cavings, digging into the floor of riverbeds and so much more in just this one industry. Yep, that does seem eerily reminiscent of the W Bush years in the white house as he rolled back these policies and or put money ahead of safety.

Yes, let's put more industry heads in charge of their own policing agencies, no wait WF has a better idea. Just let them do it from said company, nix the gov agencies all together bc they are ineffective under repubs as they purposely dismantle them. I get you now. You're just cutting out the excess as repubs destroy our safety in an effort to milk more money out of the middle class


(soon to be poor).

Just like Obamas minerals management service

[spoon]

you really aren't worth talking to huh?

[spoon]

In many other industries private security is done and its done much better than any government agency can do.


Congress shouldnt be nationalizing airport security

I trust the private sector over the government pertaining to safety any day

ok great then dismantle our armed forces, police, fire fighters and more...ur smart

Typical reactionary answer. I'll meet you halfway, how about giving the airlines the choice to use TSA or a private firm

Reactionary? Really? Bc it seems the retort completely ties in to your utopia of safety for the US into the future.

[TripleSkeet]

For anyone that flies a lot, as I have about 20 flights per year, you DON'T have to be there 2 hours in advance. Either you're using that TS to make some bs point, or simply fly once a year. I got to the airport for my Cabo flight with 50 minutes to takeoff and breezed through it all. Recently my Hawaiian flight, 45 minutes and these aren't local quick trips. For my business flights to Florida, KC, Cali, Zona and others, I do about the same but take less chances bc it's on the company dollar. Simply put, I push the very limits of how long it takes to check baggage at the counter, confirm your seat and WALK to the gate. As if 2 hours is even that long for a flight if you have kids in tow. I f'n takes ~30 minutes just to board the plane as a whole. To me, the TSA is doing fine and the price of flights are low bc they do it versus corporate america/world.

Maybe its where you fly out of. Philly has always been a pain in the ass to fly out of, now its even worse. When I lived in in Lauderdale before 9/11 Id get to the airport 10 minutes before my flight, run throught the terminal hurdling bags like OJ and still make it on time because that airport was always easy to fly out of. It just seems like an added hassle. You have the scanners, fucking use them and get the fucking lines moving. I dont think thats asking too much.

Alot of people dont like being inconvenienced for the illusion of safety, I just dont happen to be one of them.

[underdog]

you really aren't worth talking to huh?

You're just now figuring this out?

[spoon]

Maybe its where you fly out of. Philly has always been a pain in the ass to fly out of, now its even worse. When I lived in in Lauderdale before 9/11 Id get to the airport 10 minutes before my flight, run throught the terminal hurdling bags like OJ and still make it on time because that airport was always easy to fly out of. It just seems like an added hassle. You have the scanners, fucking use them and get the fucking lines moving. I dont think thats asking too much.

Alot of people dont like being inconvenienced for the illusion of safety, I just dont happen to be one of them.

Should we actually be waiting that long to take a flight that saves us HOURS with travel in the end. Not a chance, but as the price comes down more and more, the amount of time it takes to process and screen the passengers goes up. Add to this that it is post 9/11 so it has to be done. Plenty of weapons were stopped at every airport since, we can't say for sure what and how they tie in to any agenda.

For me, I fly a lot and don't mind safety. I'd rather this general approach to more patriot act bs that violate our rights with no checks and balance on the system of surveillance. The repubs used that act and appointed attorneys for so much of their political bs (like getting Spitzer), versus going after things that actually mattered. Just think, Spitzer was after all the wall street crowd for their cheating and awfully disgusting fleecing of our country. So much so that the floor of the NYSE cheered incredibly loud when his scandal broke, even though he only brought down people clearly in the wrong! This was BEFORE our economy collapsed and many of the damage was done.

Funny guys like Vitter as a repub are STILL in the senate but Spitzer falls. And to think Vitter took the spot of a guy who left due to an ADULTERY SCANDAL. Yah, I really don't care about politician's sex life either, but the case built for Spitzer has sooooo many abuses behind them. In his defense, he takes the blame fully, even if guys like the head of AIG and others have almost admitted to being behind his downfall. The good news is their stocks and companies are worth dirt now comparatively and they did it to themselves. I'm sure they'll be fine though, but losing billions if not more can't sit well in the end.

[spoon]

You're just now figuring this out?

Nah, just reminded of the fact.

:wallbash:

that's more like it

anything else is just too much!

[TripleSkeet]

Should we actually be waiting that long to take a flight that saves us HOURS with travel in the end. Not a chance, but as the price comes down more and more, the amount of time it takes to process and screen the passengers goes up. Add to this that it is post 9/11 so it has to be done. Plenty of weapons were stopped at every airport since, we can't say for sure what and how they tie in to any agenda.

For me, I fly a lot and don't mind safety. I'd rather this general approach to more patriot act bs that violate our rights with no checks and balance on the system of surveillance. The repubs used that act and appointed attorneys for so much of their political bs (like getting Spitzer), versus going after things that actually mattered. Just think, Spitzer was after all the wall street crowd for their cheating and awfully disgusting fleecing of our country. So much so that the floor of the NYSE cheered incredibly loud when his scandal broke, even though he only brought down people clearly in the wrong! This was BEFORE our economy collapsed and many of the damage was done.

Funny guys like Vitter as a repub are STILL in the senate but Spitzer falls. And to think Vitter took the spot of a guy who left due to an ADULTERY SCANDAL. Yah, I really don't care about politician's sex life either, but the case built for Spitzer has sooooo many abuses behind them. In his defense, he takes the blame fully, even if guys like the head of AIG and others have almost admitted to being behind his downfall. The good news is their stocks and companies are worth dirt now comparatively and they did it to themselves. I'm sure they'll be fine though, but losing billions if not more can't sit well in the end.

I agree with all of what you said. Like I said, Im just not a fan of inconvenience. If they can find a way to streamline it and make it easier and quicker to fly, I have no problem with them.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not surprising


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/08/2011-08-08_tsa_apologizes_after_screeners_confiscate_diabe tic_pregnant_womans_insulin_repor.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just another reason to gut Homeland security and TSA


http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/22/7901695-qa-snow-globes-at-the-airport-security-checkpoint

[PapaBear]

Just another reason to gut Homeland security and TSA


http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/22/7901695-qa-snow-globes-at-the-airport-security-checkpoint
I see no problem with this. Everyone knows you can't carry certain amounts of liquid in your carry on. It doesn't take much logic to realize you don't know how much liquid is in a snow globe. I almost never fly, but I know that, when in doubt, put it in your checked baggage. The girl will probably end up thinking those agents are meany poopie heads. When the reality is, her dad didn't think things through enough to spare his daughter the pain that will likely lead her down a road of ruin and years of therapy and drugs.

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/hzzPf.png

[PapaBear]

http://i.imgur.com/hzzPf.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/snowmaninva66/5118751057lcopy.jpg

[StanUpshaw]

You megalomaniac authority types all stick together.

[PapaBear]

You megalomaniac authority types all stick together.
Someone has to subjugate the supplicants.

[TripleSkeet]

Keeping us safe from terrorism....what a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053074/Jill-Flipovic-US-airport-TSA-staff-leave-lewd-note-sex-toy-bag.html

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/bkwDS.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wow with a FY 2012 budget of 8.1 Billion I should at least get a happy ending before boarding my flight

[Jujubees2]

Traveler gets 'personal' note on TSA card (http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/25/8481160-traveler-gets-personal-note-on-tsa-card)

Guess it's better than having it on your carry on and having to take it out at the security check point

[TripleSkeet]

Keeping us safe from terrorism....what a joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053074/Jill-Flipovic-US-airport-TSA-staff-leave-lewd-note-sex-toy-bag.html



Traveler gets 'personal' note on TSA card (http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/25/8481160-traveler-gets-personal-note-on-tsa-card)

Guess it's better than having it on your carry on and having to take it out at the security check point

Way to pay attention. :wink:

[PapaBear]

Way to pay attention. :wink:
You win on time, but Juju wins on link posting style. I call it a draw.

[cougarjake13]

Traveler gets 'personal' note on TSA card (http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/25/8481160-traveler-gets-personal-note-on-tsa-card)

Guess it's better than having it on your carry on and having to take it out at the security check point



im actually surprised they didnt freak out and think it was some kind of terrorist device and go all crazy on her and parade it around like it was some nuke

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jackboot thugs admit to being what they are.




http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/tsa-apologizes-elderly-women-strip-search-kennedy-airport-article-1.1007725

[sailor]

Jackboot thugs admit to being what they are.




http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/tsa-apologizes-elderly-women-strip-search-kennedy-airport-article-1.1007725


They admitted their employees didn't follow procedure. Far cry from what you're alleging.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Over the top security should not even be in practice. The TSA is just another useless bureaucracy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

TSA steal from passenger


http://news.yahoo.com/police-tsa-agent-jfk-stole-5k-passenger-163552145.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No female TSA Agents woman gets fucked out of her flight


http://www.latimes.com/videogallery/67987352/News/With-no-female-TSA-agents-on-duty-Denver-woman-misses-flight

[StanUpshaw]

Insurgent blogger wages war on America; foils TSA scanners:

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[jennysmurf]

It really is laughably easy. We're all doomed.

[epo]

It really is laughably easy. We're all doomed.

Devil woman.

[StanUpshaw]

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[underdog]

Well, I feel safer now.

[Syd]

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To be fair, that's the sort of shit you'd think people would try to bring in explosives. There are plenty of white terrorists out there and the successful attacks now are going to be from solutions we don't think of, such as putting explosives in a wheelchair.

[StanUpshaw]

To be fair, that's the sort of shit you'd think people would try to bring in explosives. There are plenty of white terrorists out there and the successful attacks now are going to be from solutions we don't think of, such as putting explosives in a wheelchair.

You're not even trying anymore.

[weekapaugjz]

Well, I feel safer now.

same here. who knows what types of explosives that kid was handling or what he shoved down that cast. never trust a 3-year old.

[Syd]

You're not even trying anymore.

Remember how nearly 11 years ago people destroyed multiple buildings and ended countless lives by using boxcutters?

Security, by nature, tends to be reactive. Same goes for the population. If you're serious about security, you're pro-active and look for opportunities rather than skin color.

[weekapaugjz]

If you're serious about security, you're pro-active and look for opportunities rather than skin color.

by going after three year olds in wheelchairs. got it.

[Syd]

by going after three year olds in wheelchairs. got it.

I know totally because a wheelchair or three year old cannot possibly hide explosives or weapons. It's like one of them laws written by Asimov or Moore or Newton or someone. Glad you remembered and pointed that out for us.

[TripleSkeet]

Remember how nearly 11 years ago people destroyed multiple buildings and ended countless lives by using boxcutters?

Security, by nature, tends to be reactive. Same goes for the population. If you're serious about security, you're pro-active and look for opportunities rather than skin color.

I guess I just look at it differently. Boxcutters arent what let them take down those buildings. Nor was it poor security. It was the way we were trained as a people to just let hijackers have the plane, dont play the hero, and let the police negotiate with them. If you did this, everything would be fine. Thats what we were taught. So much for that.

Youll never see another passenger plane hijacked and flown into a building again. Its not possible. I dont care if you let the guy on the plane with a fucking machete and an Uzi. Its not gonna happen. Because passengers will never sit idly by and let someone hijack their plane again. Doesnt matter if they take a hostage. That hostage is dead, along with the hijacker right after that.

If you honestly think ANYTHING other then that would result from an attempted hijacking youre retarded.

As far as blowing up a plane is concerned...what exactly would that accomplish? Lower airline ticket prices because people are afraid to fly for a little while? They could kill more people and do more damage setting off a bomb in the airport before they reach security.

[StanUpshaw]

As far as blowing up a plane is concerned...what exactly would that accomplish? Lower airline ticket prices because people are afraid to fly for a little while? They could kill more people and do more damage setting off a bomb in the airport before they reach security.

Syd wants pat downs for toddlers anywhere 100+ people congregate.

[Bob Impact]

I guess I just look at it differently. Boxcutters arent what let them take down those buildings. Nor was it poor security. It was the way we were trained as a people to just let hijackers have the plane, dont play the hero, and let the police negotiate with them. If you did this, everything would be fine. Thats what we were taught. So much for that.

Youll never see another passenger plane hijacked and flown into a building again. Its not possible. I dont care if you let the guy on the plane with a fucking machete and an Uzi. Its not gonna happen. Because passengers will never sit idly by and let someone hijack their plane again. Doesnt matter if they take a hostage. That hostage is dead, along with the hijacker right after that.

If you honestly think ANYTHING other then that would result from an attempted hijacking youre retarded.

As far as blowing up a plane is concerned...what exactly would that accomplish? Lower airline ticket prices because people are afraid to fly for a little while? They could kill more people and do more damage setting off a bomb in the airport before they reach security.
Right, terrorists don't have a history of blowing planes up, or using children in bombings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Pales tinian_conflict

I find myself agreeing with Syd here, don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of the TSA, but in a world where they exist I don't see anything wrong with how this search was handled, it wasn't invasive and the TSA agent was polite the entire time.

[StanUpshaw]

Right, terrorists don't have a history of blowing planes up, or using children in bombings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Pales tinian_conflict

I find myself agreeing with Syd here, don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of the TSA, but in a world where they exist I don't see anything wrong with how this search was handled, it wasn't invasive and the TSA agent was polite the entire time.

Turn in your libertarian card, fucko.

Burn off that tattoo.

[TripleSkeet]

Right, terrorists don't have a history of blowing planes up, or using children in bombings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Pales tinian_conflict

I find myself agreeing with Syd here, don't get me wrong, I hate the idea of the TSA, but in a world where they exist I don't see anything wrong with how this search was handled, it wasn't invasive and the TSA agent was polite the entire time.

You havent disputed anything Ive said. What is the point in blowing up a plane here? Youd kill more people if you blew up the terminal. And nothing written there does anything to dispute the fact that there will never be a passenger plane successfully hijacked again. The TSA is unnecessary. Go back to metal detectors and get these fucking lines moving. These scanners and pat downs are not making us any more safe.

[Melk]

Boo hoo. They patted down and swabbed a little kid.

I was patted down as a kid at the border of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
I certainly didn't look like terrorist at the time. Oh wait... I did look like a member of the IRA in training.

Anyway, this "He doesn't look like a terrorist" argument doesn't work for me. If a bunch of Catholics would be willing to mule contraband through borders to blow up theme parks why wouldn't anyone? If a gay couple can coach their kid into asking a political question to Michelle Bachmann why wouldn't a terrorist arm their kids?

[Bob Impact]

Turn in your libertarian card, fucko.

Burn off that tattoo.

I would sooner piss on a libertarian card than own one.

[StanUpshaw]

Boo hoo. They patted down and swabbed a little kid.

I was patted down as a kid at the border of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
I certainly didn't look like terrorist at the time. Oh wait... I did look like a member of the IRA in training.

Anyway, this "He doesn't look like a terrorist" argument doesn't work for me. If a bunch of Catholics would be willing to mule contraband through borders to blow up theme parks why wouldn't anyone? If a gay couple can coach their kid into asking a political question to Michelle Bachmann why wouldn't a terrorist arm their kids?

Like Skeet said, 9/11 attacks are not possible now. The second plane hit at 9:03 am. United 93 went down at 10:03 am. There was a one-hour window in which a hijacked plane could be used to kill more than those aboard. From 10:03 am on September 11, 2001 until the time when last man with memory of those events dies, such an attack will not work.

So if you say the assaults perpetrated by the TSA are justified to maybe prevent a planeful of people from being killed in a terrorist attack, then by what logic could you say that any time an equivalent number of people are grouped together, the same "security" measures should not also be enacted?

Or maybe that is what you're saying.

[StanUpshaw]

I would sooner piss on a libertarian card than own one.

small 'l'

[underdog]

Boo hoo. They patted down and swabbed a little kid.

I was patted down as a kid at the border of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.
I certainly didn't look like terrorist at the time. Oh wait... I did look like a member of the IRA in training.

Anyway, this "He doesn't look like a terrorist" argument doesn't work for me. If a bunch of Catholics would be willing to mule contraband through borders to blow up theme parks why wouldn't anyone? If a gay couple can coach their kid into asking a political question to Michelle Bachmann why wouldn't a terrorist arm their kids?

If they're wasting their time patting down a child in a wheelchair, who is part of a family travelling, the system isn't working. It's a failure and it's just the show of security without actually providing any security.

It's like after 9/11 when Al Gore got stopped on a random search and everyone acted like that meant the system was working. No, that means the system is fucking meaningless and worthless. If you're wasting your time stopping the former FUCKING VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and searching him, you've lost. There is no safety in what they do. It's just done to make you think you're safer, when it doesn't work at all.

[Crispy123]

Airport security is either not working for shit or it is exactly 100% effective.

Those are the choices.

And we will never know which one it is because another hijacking is impossible. :wacko:

[StanUpshaw]

Airport security is either not working for shit or it is exactly 100% effective.

Those are the choices.

And we will never know which one it is because another hijacking is impossible. :wacko:

You and your kind (paid killers) are responsible for this in the first place. It's kind of a slap in the face to the victims' families for you to start running your mouth. We'll let you know if we need some more arab kids blown up.

[Crispy123]

You and your kind (paid killers) are responsible for this in the first place. It's kind of a slap in the face to the victims' families for you to start running your mouth. We'll let you know if we need some more arab kids blown up.

Are you one of the victims, or are you just speaking for them?

[Syd]

Syd wants pat downs for toddlers anywhere 100+ people congregate.

I most definitely said that, and it most definitely proves your point that you're not a big baby who slippery slopes everything.

If you want security, this is the stuff the TSA needs to look out for -- not the obvious. It's no longer the swarthy guys speaking in a foreign tongue that are going to be the problem, it's the white guy flipping his shit which has been the vast majority of terrorist attacks since 2001.

Turn in your libertarian card, fucko.

Burn off that tattoo.

The TSA is staffed by a private entity and nowhere in the libertarian creed says that the TSA shouldn't exist. Being a libertarian isn't just being a catch-all anti-government type, there's nuances to it. You can easily be a libertarian while still supporting the notion of airlines securing their planes and passengers.

[StanUpshaw]

There is no meaningful aspect of the TSA that is either private or voluntary.

[Syd]

There is no meaningful aspect of the TSA that is either private or voluntary.

And this has to do with libertarianism how? You're advocating anarchism or something similar to that. Libertarianism, again, isn't just flat out anti-government and it has little to do with what you're talking about. The government's role is generally accepted in libertarian circles is to protect citizens. So, you don't want citizens protected despite claiming to be a libertarian because it isn't voluntary, and there are obviously no methods of travel other than airlines. The government liter-ally forces you to fly on airlines and go through security checkpoints. :thumbup:

[StanUpshaw]

I am advocating anarchism, but even if a person claimed to be some wishy-washy constitutional minarchist, he would be right in being outraged by this magical land known as an airport where the 4th amendment does not apply.

[high fly]

A few months ago I took a flight out of National and had to go through the super-dooper scanner. I had on some loose-fitting slacks and no underwear, dangling free. So when they had me hold up my hands in front of the thing I did a little back and forth wiggle to make-em sway...........they frowned at that.

[furie]

Insurgent blogger wages war on America; foils TSA scanners:

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/olEoc_1ZkfA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


yeah that's about right.

[jennysmurf]

A few months ago I took a flight out of National and had to go through the super-dooper scanner. I had on some loose-fitting slacks and no underwear, dangling free. So when they had me hold up my hands in front of the thing I did a little back and forth wiggle to make-em sway...........they frowned at that.

They were only frowning because they were so turned on by your wiggling. A no-no at work.

[TripleSkeet]

If you want security, this is the stuff the TSA needs to look out for -- not the obvious. It's no longer the swarthy guys speaking in a foreign tongue that are going to be the problem, it's the white guy flipping his shit which has been the vast majority of terrorist attacks since 2001.


If you really believe these patdowns and shit is whats keeping you secure, congrats, youre retarded.

As stated before, COULD a terrorist use a kid to blow up a plane? Sure. Whats he gonna kill? 150-250 people? A terrorist could easily do the same thing and kill alot more at a hockey game, a concert, the Ice Capades, the circus, the Thanksgiving Day Parade, etc. YET none of these patdowns go on here and you feel just as secure. Why?

[TripleSkeet]

For the record, Im about to mindfuck your secure feeling right now. You really want to worry about something? Worry about the guys in charge in checking the jet fuel. My BARBACK at work had that job. Hes a 22 year old black kid that lives with his mom, has tattoos all over his neck and considers a 2000 Buick Lesabre with 140,000 miles on it to be a pimped out ride.

I dont trust this kid to stock my fucking beer right, and he was in charge of checking the jet fuel on airplanes and going thru the checklist. He got fired because for 3 months he just wrote marks next to everything saying it was fine without really checking because it was too cold to get out and actually check what he was supposed to. His supervisor was the one that told him thats what he should do. The rest of the time he SLEPT while at work.

Last month, they offered him his job back. Happy flying.

[sailor]

If you really believe these patdowns and shit is whats keeping you secure, congrats, youre retarded.

As stated before, COULD a terrorist use a kid to blow up a plane? Sure. Whats he gonna kill? 150-250 people? A terrorist could easily do the same thing and kill alot more at a hockey game, a concert, the Ice Capades, the circus, the Thanksgiving Day Parade, etc. YET none of these patdowns go on here and you feel just as secure. Why?

because the terrorists haven't turned their eyes in that direction yet? sounds like you have more of a problem with their strategy than the tsa's.

[TripleSkeet]

because the terrorists haven't turned their eyes in that direction yet? sounds like you have more of a problem with their strategy than the tsa's.

I have a problem with people thinking you can guarantee safety. If there is one certainty in this life, its that you cant guarantee safety. And it annoys me that people feel safer knowing they are being lied to then they would if they would just accept the fact that it cant be guaranteed and that its just a part of life. You know what the TSA is? Just a massive fucking inconvenience in order to produce the illusion of safety. And stupid Americans buy into it every day.

If someone wants to blow up a bunch of people, its IMPOSSIBLE to prevent it. Im sure I could find a way to build a bomb somewhere online out of stuff I can buy at Home Depot. If I didnt care about living anymore and wanted to, I could go blow up City Hall and there isnt a goddamned thing anyone could do to stop me. People need to just accept the fact that life is a risk instead of begging the government to protect them.

[sailor]

Post reported to homeland security. Prank poster! Prank poster!

[Syd]

It's pretty difficult to build a bomb -- things like fertilizer have become non-explosive, for example. You could piece it together and create your own composition but you'd likely trigger flags.

[underdog]

The Mystery of the Flying Laptop (http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/travel/the-mystery-of-the-flying-laptop.html?adxnnl=1&ref=travel&pagewanted=1&adxnnlx=1333646937-4UES5TWbmtfjI275/UHygw)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

TSA Agents on buses. Lets give away more of our 4th amendment rights



http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/323191

[underdog]

Family Misses Flight After TSA Gives Pat-Down To Girl With Cerebral Palsy (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/04/25/family-misses-flight-after-tsa-gives-pat-down-to-girl-with-cerebral-palsy/)

Safety!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

According to someone in the State dept the war on Turrer is over so does that mean the constitution wont be trampled as much ?

[IamFogHat]

Family Misses Flight After TSA Gives Pat-Down To Girl With Cerebral Palsy (http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/04/25/family-misses-flight-after-tsa-gives-pat-down-to-girl-with-cerebral-palsy/)

Safety!

I mean...I cannot imagine bigger pieces of shit in the universe. What possible explanation could they have for this?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thanks Dubya

[Bob Impact]

From a link in that article ( http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/04/25/tsa-defends-pat-down-of-4-year-old-girl-at-kansas-airport/ )

The rationale:
“In this case, however, the child had completed screening but had contact with another member of her family who had not completed the screening process.”

Presumably this means that a TSA agent SAW the contact with the other family member and could have simply patted down the other family member if they really felt there was a concern.

The incident went on for maybe 10 minutes, until a manager came in and allowed agents to pat the girl down while she was screaming but being held by her mother. The family was then allowed to go to their next gate with a TSA agent following them.

This sounds just awful, what a disgusting display.

Now sir, I just need to look inside your asshole.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s16e01-reverse-cowgirl

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why are TSA agents being used for regional flights?


Its not interstate commerce when Flying from NYC to Albany

[Chigworthy]

Now sir, I just need to look inside your asshole.

Almost missed this one.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398715_10150611754692442_599817441_10875741_188971 9442_n.jpg


http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/409345_2225993787970_1791554012_1417007_857940213_ n.jpg

[Jujubees2]

The public fights back!

Flier accused of groping TSA agent (http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/19/12302064-flier-accused-of-groping-tsa-agent?lite)

[TripleSkeet]

The TSA may be the most unnecessary thing and biggest waste of money this country has ever created.

[A.J.]

The TSA may be the most unnecessary thing and biggest waste of money this country has ever created.

See also Department of Homeland Security and the Director of National Intelligence.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Keeping us safe from turrrrrrrrr




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/24/tsa-workers-metal-detecto_n_1622152.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Chances of dying in a terrorist attack in the US



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704130904574644651587677752.html?m od=WSJ_hp_mostpop_emailed

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Gotta be on the lookout for potential dead turrists


http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9087-tsa-agent-opens-grandfathers-cremated-remains-spills-them-laughs-at-grandson/

[hanso]

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[hanso]

TSA frisks man with ‘world’s largest penis’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/16/tsa-frisks-man-with-worlds-largest-penis/

links to huffpo

[jennysmurf]

TSA frisks man with ‘world’s largest penis’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/16/tsa-frisks-man-with-worlds-largest-penis/

links to huffpo

Oof.:blink:

[PapaBear]

He's a grower AND a shower!

[A.J.]

TSA frisks man with ‘world’s largest penis’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/16/tsa-frisks-man-with-worlds-largest-penis/

links to huffpo

http://images.wikia.com/godfather/images/c/c6/Vlcsnap-2010-06-29-17h34m54s33.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559259_426285244081833_61695500_n.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/523605_10152124779725515_1547400874_n.jpg

[furie]

For the record, Im about to mindfuck your secure feeling right now. You really want to worry about something? Worry about the guys in charge in checking the jet fuel. My BARBACK at work had that job. Hes a 22 year old black kid that lives with his mom, has tattoos all over his neck and considers a 2000 Buick Lesabre with 140,000 miles on it to be a pimped out ride.

I dont trust this kid to stock my fucking beer right, and he was in charge of checking the jet fuel on airplanes and going thru the checklist. He got fired because for 3 months he just wrote marks next to everything saying it was fine without really checking because it was too cold to get out and actually check what he was supposed to. His supervisor was the one that told him thats what he should do. The rest of the time he SLEPT while at work.

Last month, they offered him his job back. Happy flying.

That's FAA's problem, not TSA.

[furie]

Why are TSA agents being used for regional flights?


Its not interstate commerce when Flying from NYC to Albany

because all airports have what is called a linked sterile area. fly from nyc to albany. stay in the concourse without exiting past the checkpoint to connect to pittsburgh or LAX and the only screening you'll have had was the initial in NYC.

Mohammed Atta didn't get screened at BOS to hijack flight 11. He went to Bangor first because it was known as particularly lax. Then when he was at BOS, he wasn't screened again because he stayed in the sterile area.

so it does fall under interstate commerce because of the need to have uniformity across all checkpoints and the very nature of airports.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I Pad traced to TSA workers house


http://gma.yahoo.com/abc-news-tracks-missing-ipad-florida-home-tsa-195556396--abc-news-topstories.html

[TripleSkeet]

That's FAA's problem, not TSA.

My point was, how can anyone be worried about somebody bringing a tube of toothpaste on a plane when this is how they check your fuel?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yup, these young white girls in wheelchairs are such a problem

Splatter all the shit that Al Qaeda is decimated all you want.

A. Its false
B. Bin Laden won.


http://news.yahoo.com/video/airport-insecurity-wheelchair-girl-detained-141502705.html

[spoon]

classic wf

oh my God, someone tested positive for something that's not good and they looked deeper and found she was ok and let go

NOOOOoooooooo!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Classic over the top government security abusing their power with a massive budget to violate civil liberties.

[spoon]

yes sir, classic!

how will they ever recover!?

oh the humanity!

I'm not even some big TSA guy, but man you love to blow shit out of proportion any chance you get just like the media you claim to be disgusted by with the kids in Ct.

[spoon]

Classic over the top government security abusing their power with a massive budget to violate civil liberties.

better yet, explain the abuse?

where did they overstep their role/duty entrusted to them?

you disagree with the policy or procedure fine, but from what I read, these people are just making a whole lot out of being delayed even though the kid did test positive for bomb residue. if they let her through you'd be here yelling about how they didn't do their jobs if it was reported they let her by without digging deeper.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

better yet, explain the abuse?

where did they overstep their role/duty entrusted to them?

you disagree with the policy or procedure fine, but from what I read, these people are just making a whole lot out of being delayed even though the kid did test positive for bomb residue. if they let her through you'd be here yelling about how they didn't do their jobs if it was reported they let her by without digging deeper.

Airlines can use private security with better training and if they do abuse their authority they can be sued and held liable for their actions

It's also because they can practice these draconian measures and have almost no accountability. It doesn't stop at that. Look at how many agents steal I Pads, Laptops etc. They arent caught until the theft amounts numer in the thousands of dollars.

These people want to unionize. Watch out, then it will be even worse of that happens.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes sir, classic!

how will they ever recover!?

oh the humanity!

I'm not even some big TSA guy, but man you love to blow shit out of proportion any chance you get just like the media you claim to be disgusted by with the kids in Ct.

It's a girl in a wheelchair. What threat is she?

[spoon]

Airlines can use private security with better training and if they do abuse their authority they can be sued and held liable for their actions

It's also because they can practice these draconian measures and have almost no accountability. It doesn't stop at that. Look at how many agents steal I Pads, Laptops etc. They arent caught until the theft amounts numer in the thousands of dollars.

These people want to unionize. Watch out, then it will be even worse of that happens.

are you scared little fool?

privatize the fucking army and cops too while you're at it!

fuck it, privatize our entire government and just do away with all of it bc nobody has the people's best interest in mind like corporations!

[spoon]

It's a girl in a wheelchair. What threat is she?

yes, never search the handicapped or wheelchair bound

great policy and fair too!

that would never be abused or manipulated

[WRESTLINGFAN]

are you scared little fool?

privatize the fucking army and cops too while you're at it!

fuck it, privatize our entire government and just do away with all of it bc nobody has the people's best interest in mind like corporations!

Who said anything about the military and cops? I expected an answer like that from you.

There are certain government functions as mandated by the constitution.

No ones saying corporations can do no wrong but when they do, you can sue them.

Wanna talk about being scared? Does it make your sensitive nerves feel better that toothpaste and other items need to be checked in bags over some government requirement?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, never search the handicapped or wheelchair bound

great policy and fair too!

that would never be abused or manipulated

Yup we have a multibillion dollar bureaucracy to watch out for white girls in a whelchair and nuns. You get the gov't you deserve.

[spoon]

yes we do and of course this one story makes your last statement true that we pay to watch out for white girls in wheelchairs and nuns. you are a sleuth and get the retorts/anger you deserve

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes we do and of course this one story makes your last statement true that we pay to watch out for white girls in wheelchairs and nuns. you are a sleuth and get the retorts/anger you deserve

You're the only one spewing anger.

[spoon]

Who said anything about the military and cops? I expected an answer like that from you.

There are certain government functions as mandated by the constitution.

No ones saying corporations can do no wrong but when they do, you can sue them.

Wanna talk about being scared? Does it make your sensitive nerves feel better that toothpaste and other items need to be checked in bags over some government requirement?

you can sue anyone if done right, so what? in fact, some of that is a whole other problem (frivolous lawsuits) but that's another story

oh and you went the privatization route, I added to the actual topic bc it's TOPICAL and in your fucking stupid strike zone

do I feel better that the gov feels the need to have us check fucking toothpaste in our bags bc of a bomb method they are aware of, not just "some government requirement"...sure. I travel every fucking week too, so it applies to me a lot too. I could care less if I can have 8 ounces of tpaste in my carry on. it's the world we live in right now, not some bullshit tactic to control our use of toothpaste by the government bc they want to.

[spoon]

You're the only one spewing anger.

read it again fuckwad

that's EXACTLY what I said


the wfidiot strikes again

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you can sue anyone if done right, so what? in fact, some of that is a whole other problem (frivolous lawsuits) but that's another story

oh and you went the privatization route, I added to the actual topic bc it's TOPICAL and in your fucking stupid strike zone

do I feel better that the gov feels the need to have us check fucking toothpaste in our bags bc of a bomb method they are aware of, not just "some government requirement"...sure. I travel every fucking week too, so it applies to me a lot too. I could care less if I can have 8 ounces of tpaste in my carry on. it's the world we live in right now, not some bullshit tactic to control our use of toothpaste by the government bc they want to.

It's this gov'ts usual pussy attitude towards everything. Have over the top draconian practices and grow the federal gov't even more. This practice started under a so called conservative like Bush and continued to be carried out by Obama.

[spoon]

we all can't be rugged individuals like you

[hanso]

classic wf

oh my God, someone tested positive for something that's not good and they looked deeper and found she was ok and let go

NOOOOoooooooo!

He just wants his x-ray specs

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The girl was separated from her mother for over an hour. Oh let me guess , the mother was in on it as well


These fucking agents can get away with shit like this because there's no accountability. Time and time again worthless bureaucracies are created all in the name of safety and you pussies accept it.

Give a bunch of people who barely got a GED a shiny badge and this is your result

[spoon]

The girl was separated from her mother for over an hour. Oh let me guess , the mother was in on it as well


These fucking agents can get away with shit like this because there's no accountability. Time and time again worthless bureaucracies are created all in the name of safety and you pussies accept it.

Give a bunch of people who barely got a GED a shiny badge and this is your result

AHHhhhh!

Now it all makes sense, this is a double ball of hate here from our distinguished fuckhead. WF can't see eye to eye with this bc they are low class "GED" citizens (and I surely know what he really means) AND a government agency! It's almost a perfect situation for WF to rant and rail...and he does despite the actual need TO be there, but only if run by the airlines.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

AHHhhhh!

Now it all makes sense, this is a double ball of hate here from our distinguished fuckhead. WF can't see eye to eye with this bc they are low class "GED" citizens (and I surely know what he really means) AND a government agency! It's almost a perfect situation for WF to rant and rail...and he does despite the actual need TO be there, but only if run by the airlines.

Do you trust these agents with your safety with all the shit they have done to abuse power and embarass passengers ? Boy do you set the bar at such a low level.

[spoon]

do I?

do you have a clue in either direction?

fuck no, bc you just want to direct anger at them for any tougher situation they come across and hate the very idea of it so much they NEVER had a fucking chance with you and your ilk.

you'll never really know either, bc that's not how you discuss anything, it's rip apart and go into defend mode based on the stories fed to you via your GOP wire feed

WFool

[WRESTLINGFAN]

do I?

do you have a clue in either direction?

fuck no, bc you just want to direct anger at them for any tougher situation they come across and hate the very idea of it so much they NEVER had a fucking chance with you and your ilk.

you'll never really know either, bc that's not how you discuss anything, it's rip apart and go into defend mode based on the stories fed to you via your GOP wire feed

WFool

It's the fact that almost every week you hear stories similar to this and that you hear of TSA agents ransacking thru baggage to steal items.

It's your cavalier attitude of oh, its just the way things are. You are willing to let your civil liberties continue to be violated.

[spoon]

It's the fact that almost every week you hear stories similar to this and that you hear of TSA agents ransacking thru baggage to steal items.

It's your cavalier attitude of oh, its just the way things are. You are willing to let your civil liberties continue to be violated.

no again fool

you made THIS story to be some litmus test and all out damming of the TSA when in fact they just did their job here. no matter how hard it is for you to see some white kid in a wheel chair detained for an hour when she has something dangerous on her chair or body, it's what they are rightfully trained to do. so cry louder WF, the right wing fairy god doesn't hear your cries of american justice!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

no again fool

you made THIS story to be some litmus test and all out damming of the TSA when in fact they just did their job here. no matter how hard it is for you to see some white kid in a wheel chair detained for an hour when she has something dangerous on her chair or body, it's what they are rightfully trained to do. so cry louder WF, the right wing fairy god doesn't hear your cries of american justice!

It's lemmings like you who accept this and accept low standards. I remember you posting your disagreements with the patriot act but yet you allow rogue TSA activities to happen.


Youre an inconsistent fuck.

[spoon]

rogue tsa!

ha!

and you still don't have a clue as to my stance on the tsa, but keep making shit up



for the incredibly slow here (wf), I'm commenting on THIS STORY, that you can't seem to focus on which shouldn't be shocking. Not to mention that the TSA and patriot act are NOT one in the same you asshole. You can be for the idea of one and completely against the other. if you fail to see the differences, I can't help you

[WRESTLINGFAN]

rogue tsa!

ha!

and you still don't have a clue as to my stance on the tsa, but keep making shit up



for the incredibly slow here (wf), I'm commenting on THIS STORY, that you can't seem to focus on which shouldn't be shocking. Not to mention that the TSA and patriot act are NOT one in the same you asshole. You can be for the idea of one and completely against the other. if you fail to see the differences, I can't help you

Again, your attitude of it's just the way things are is enough for me.


Who said the PA and the TSA are the same. Nice way to jump to some idiotic conclusion.

[spoon]

Again, your attitude of it's just the way things are is enough for me.


Who said the PA and the TSA are the same. Nice way to jump to some idiotic conclusion.

YOU DID by asking how can you be against the patriot act and not the TSA? You're a FUCKING IDIOT. You can't make a comment like you did I remember you posting your disagreements with the patriot act but yet you allow rogue TSA activities to happen.and then claim that it didn't infer plenty. I have to think you quite possibly might be the dumbest fool this board has ever seen. FOCUS you fool. My attitude on THIS story is on THIS story. You somehow can't see that the points made here don't just magically apply to something else in your head, yet statements like the one you made above, DO in fact tie two things into each other. :wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

YOU DID by asking how can you be against the patriot act and not the TSA? You're a FUCKING IDIOT. You can't make a comment like you did and then claim that it didn't infer plenty. I have to think you quite possibly might be the dumbest fool this board has ever seen. FOCUS you fool. My attitude on THIS story is on THIS story. You somehow can't see that the points made here don't just magically apply to something else in your head, yet statements like the one you made above, DO in fact tie two things into each other. :wallbash:


Your lack of thought proves you are the dumbest person on this board


Your defense of these constant embarrassment of passengers and your sheeplike comments of accepting of its the way things are proves it.


Baaaaaaaahhh!! SpoonSheep

[spoon]

perfect

you truly can't even make a unique insult!

ever


you suck out loud

[disneyspy]

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2013/01/tsa-dumps-porno-airport-scanners-good-riddance?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+motherjones%2FTheBlueMarble+% 28Mother+Jones+%7C+The+Blue+Marble%29

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yup those TSA staff are protecting us from Turrists. If 3 year olds don't get screened. Al Qaeda wins.



http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/tsa-apologizes-traumatizing-disabled-toddler-135529408--abc-news-travel.html

[spoon]

oh wow

mind blown

world over

get rid of all security now bc a kid cried

they cry in school too, nix them = more money!

yeah!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

oh wow

mind blown

world over

get rid of all security now bc a kid cried

they cry in school too, nix them = more money!

yeah!


No Surprise


Spoon can't analyze.


World not knocked off it's Axis.

[spoon]

steal some new lines WF

you're fucking boring and not even fun to rip apart any longer

pathetic

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Anyone accepting this government's continued practice of violating civil liberties is pathetic.

[cougarjake13]

start a revolution then WF

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Not enough support Too many people accept it. However I'll gladly turn people over to the Chinese if there's a takeover

[spoon]

Anyone accepting this government's continued practice of violating civil liberties is pathetic.

exactly what we are for!

DO IT US gov!

:wallbash:

[PapaBear]

You guys are getting dangerously close to "Dude!ing" on a regular basis. :help:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He's sent to fight turrists, but these TSA agents think he's one

Al Qaeda is laughing at this pussified country

http://rt.com/usa/double-amputee-marine-tsa-506/

[falcon95]

lets all get together and suicide bomb the taco bell:nono:

[Jujubees2]

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/files/2013/03/tsadick.jpg