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Furtherman
11-18-2010, 01:52 PM
This is amazing. Watch the video, and your brain will do the rest.

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The McGurk effect is a powerful illusion where our brains hear the wrong noise if they're presented with visual evidence that something else is being said. Now we've discovered what part of the brain is behind this strange effect.

We've already talked about optical illusions, but this auditory illusion might be even freakier. Let's say you record a person pronouncing a couple sounds over and over again - say, "bah" and "vah", which are very similar sounds made with clearly different lip movements. Now you keep the audio of the person saying "bah" but overlay it with the video of the person saying "vah." Which sound will you hear?

Any sane person would think you'd still hear "bah", but that isn't the case at all. The mind prioritizes the visual information over the auditory information, deciding what it sees as the correct noise - the person mouthing "vah" - trumps the ears clearly hearing the person say "bah." You can literally watch the mixed video, clearly hear the person say "vah", then close your eyes and it immediately switches back to "bah", and the only change in sounds occurred entirely in your mind. That's the McGurk effect.

Death Metal Moe
11-18-2010, 02:14 PM
That's pretty cool. I'd like to see a more elaborate demonstration than just Bah and Vah.

torker
11-18-2010, 02:45 PM
bald headed jerk
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/M9zK7Zrwl0Y/0.jpg

Death Metal Moe
11-18-2010, 03:07 PM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e380/moviefreak61/home-movies-brendan-coach-mcguirk.jpg

torker
11-18-2010, 03:11 PM
Any sane person would think you'd still hear "bah", but that isn't the case at all. The mind prioritizes the visual information over the auditory information, deciding what it sees as the correct noise - the person mouthing "vah" - trumps the ears clearly hearing the person say "bah."
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Devo37
11-18-2010, 06:17 PM
Fafa Fooey!! Fafa Fooey!! Fafa Fooey!! Fafa Fooey!! Fafa Fooey!!

StanUpshaw
11-18-2010, 08:56 PM
Humans make for shitty observational equipment.

We do pretty well for being cobbled together out of monkey parts, but to put any sort of confidence in your perceptions or memories is folly. Double-blind or it didn't happen.



In fact, this reminds me of a discussion we had a few months back.
http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79650&page=4

PapaBear
11-18-2010, 09:02 PM
This is obviously the Devil's work.

Furtherman
11-19-2010, 06:49 AM
The best part is when you're watching the guy say Vah, when he's really saying Bah, if you close your eyes, you'll hear Bah.

RoseBlood
11-19-2010, 07:13 AM
When I was watching him mouth "vah", I kept hearing "far" with a Boston accent.

The best part is when you're watching the guy say Vah, when he's really saying Bah, if you close your eyes, you'll hear Bah.

At first when I closed my eyes I kept mentally picturing him mouthing "vah" and that's what I heard for the first second or so before hearing "bah"

Chigworthy
11-19-2010, 07:23 AM
I kept hearing Lilly say "Broom broom".