Are Wikileaks Terrorists?

[CaptainBlowhole]

I know that they are a whistle blower site and want to expose evil doer's and all that.
I get it.
But they are kind of messing things up and making things difficult and I believe that eventually, because of this stuff, that corporations will not be as transparent as they are now. I think eventually employees will have no real knowledge of how a company is run and who does what further and further up the chain you go.
Now I'm hearing that Bank Of America may be their next "target", and if Wikileaks has the power to bring down large corporations like that and put thousands and thousands of people out of work, aren't they also kind of manipulating things?
If they know what company will be targeted next and brought down and they can time when they do it, cant they also just buy up stocks in these companies competitors and control the market as well?

[underdog]

They're freedom fighters.

And how would they bring down BoA? The banks fucking ruined our country and no one gave a shit. Everyone knows banks are evil, especially BoA. No one cares.

[weekapaugjz]

terrorists? no.

dickbags? most likely.

[Dude!]

the leaks make Hillary Clinton
look like the terrorist!

[conman823]

First of all lets stop pretending that Wikileaks is really only out for truth and justice.

They are motivated by profit and fame, same as the "evil" governments and companies are.

I can totally except in my life that at times shit goes on WAY over our heads that we should either A) Not give 2 shits about or B) Just sleep beter at night not knowing.

To all the people out there thinking they have the answers or that we should be bringing down big brother maaaannnnnn I would say this, if given the power you would be just as corruptable as the next guy.

Wikileaks would just go away if the media didn't hype them. Really, how else would I even know about them?

[conman823]

Terrorist (plural terrorists)

A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals; frequently in an attempt to coerce either a more powerful opponent, (such as a citizen or group targeting a government), or conversely, a weaker opponent, (such as a government, or even an internal citizen or group, being targeted by a larger government).
An agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.


Nope not Terrorists, Dickbags definately

[epo]

Are they terrorists?

No. If so we would've started a war with their host nation-state.

[underdog]

First of all lets stop pretending that Wikileaks is really only out for truth and justice.

They are motivated by profit and fame, same as the "evil" governments and companies are.

I can totally except in my life that at times shit goes on WAY over our heads that we should either A) Not give 2 shits about or B) Just sleep beter at night not knowing.

To all the people out there thinking they have the answers or that we should be bringing down big brother maaaannnnnn I would say this, if given the power you would be just as corruptable as the next guy.

Wikileaks would just go away if the media didn't hype them. Really, how else would I even know about them?

They've been around for over 4 years. Do you seriously think they're a product of the media?

Your post sucks.

[torker]

Too square for /b/
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[keithy_19]

No.

[conman823]

They've been around for over 4 years. Do you seriously think they're a product of the media?

Your post sucks.

Oh another brilliant Big Ass Veteran post.

Yes I do think they are a product of the media, because if the media didn't run with the story everytime Wikileaks promotes another big "leak" then how would we know about it?

[keithy_19]

Oh another brilliant Big Ass Veteran post.

:huh:

What got released that we didn't already know?

[hanso]

Oh another brilliant Big Ass Veteran post.

Yes I do think they are a product of the media, because if the media didn't run with the story everytime Wikileaks promotes another big "leak" then how would we know about it?

The media said nothing of the arms N Korea sold to Iran.

[A.J.]

They're traitors. At least the people are who provide them with these documents.

[underdog]

Oh another brilliant Big Ass Veteran post.

Yes I do think they are a product of the media, because if the media didn't run with the story everytime Wikileaks promotes another big "leak" then how would we know about it?

By going to the website.

[Misteriosa]

They're traitors. At least the people are who provide them with these documents.

yes. people are only focusing on the WikiLeaks people/site, calling them traitors.

Lets focus on the people who actually obtained the documents that were leaked.

[realmenhatelife]

The media said nothing of the arms N Korea sold to Iran.

I read this on CNN, so yeah they did.

I've never been to wikileaks, I read all this stuff on CNN, so really whats the difference? Obviously there are security issues that need to be addressed, but wikileaks is doing what any journalist would do. This is legit news.

[CountryBob]

The government needs to keep their shit more secured - that's the problem.

[Crispy123]

terrorists? no.

dickbags? most likely.

and rapists

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Issa will be having a field day come 1/3


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/30/AR2010113005880_pf.html

[Syd]

Absolutely not. They didn't betray anything other than those who dictate that America must be the world police who fund right wing rebels or who provide arms and income aid to a country who are simply the enemy of my enemy.

Plus, hell, Assange isn't even a US citizen. Does that mean Oliver North is a traitor? :thumbup:

[Barnaby Jones]

Issa will be having a field day come 1/3


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/30/AR2010113005880_pf.html

The WikiLeaks uproar has folks jumping all over President Obama's administration for a variety of alleged sins of omission and commission.

Sarah Palin weighed in big time on Facebook, blasting the administration for "incompetently handling the whole fiasco" and for not going after WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with greater urgency.

She tweeted that the administration might have gone to court to stop the disclosures. "Inexplicable: I recently won in court to stop my book 'America by Heart' from being leaked," she wrote, "but US Govt can't stop Wikileaks' treasonous act?"

Probably not. We're told there's a big legal difference between copyright law and First Amendment law. Also, while Assange might be charged, there was this Supreme Court case a long time ago, something about publishing the Pentagon Papers . . .


What a fucking moron!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

[Syd]

Hey, it's not too bad for someone who was in college for 6 years or whatever to get a sports broadcasting degree.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What a fucking moron!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Why should people take Palin seriously? Shes a fucking joke :wallbash:

[pennington]

Hey, it's not too bad for someone who was in college for 6 years or whatever to get a sports broadcasting degree.

Has anyone seen Obama's transcripts?

[Barnaby Jones]

Has anyone seen Obama's transcripts?

So fucking funny! Poor desperate Palin lover!

[pennington]

So fucking funny! Poor desperate Palin lover!

Ha ha, good one. Seriously, has anyone seen Obama's transcripts?

[foodcourtdruide]

Ha ha, good one. Seriously, has anyone seen Obama's transcripts?

Are you insinuating that Obama is lying about his education?

[foodcourtdruide]

What a fucking moron!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

I love that in her moronic point, she gets a plug in for her book.

She really doesn't understand the difference between those two things? I'm dumbfounded.

[pennington]

Are you insinuating that Obama is lying about his education?

No.

Seriously, though, I do find it odd he blocked release of his college transcripts.

[pennington]

I love that in her moronic point, she gets a plug in for her book.

Actually, that sounds pretty smart to me.

[foodcourtdruide]

No.

Seriously, though, I do find it odd he blocked release of his college transcripts.

Is it odd? Do other presidents release them?

It just seems like another thing that will get nit-picked to death. Who gives a shit?

[foodcourtdruide]

Actually, that sounds pretty smart to me.

Getting the plug in may be, but her point is completely insane.

[keithy_19]

Is it odd? Do other presidents release them?

It just seems like another thing that will get nit-picked to death. Who gives a shit?

I think we should be focusing more him being from Kenya.

[zentraed]

Oh another brilliant Big Ass Veteran post.

Yes I do think they are a product of the media, because if the media didn't run with the story everytime Wikileaks promotes another big "leak" then how would we know about it?

The Wikileaks website has been around for years. People bring them information, they publish it, other outlets pick up the story. I don't know how reform is supposed to happen if secrets are never exposed.

From their website (http://www.wikileaks.org):

WikiLeaks is a non-profit media organization dedicated to bringing important news and information to the public. We provide an innovative, secure and anonymous way for independent sources around the world to leak information to our journalists. We publish material of ethical, political and historical significance while keeping the identity of our sources anonymous, thus providing a universal way for the revealing of suppressed and censored injustices.

[A.J.]

Has anyone seen Obama's transcripts?

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[pennington]

Is it odd? Do other presidents release them?

Yes, along with their medical records. BTW, why wouldn't he release his medical records either?

It just seems like another thing that will get nit-picked to death. Who gives a shit?

So why doesn't he just release these things and shut everybody the fuck up?

[pennington]

Getting the plug in may be, but her point is completely insane.

Honestly, why are you obsessing over what she tweets?

[Barnaby Jones]

Yes, along with their medical records. BTW, why wouldn't he release his medical records either?

Because then his plan to give us all Super AIDS will be exposed!!! You don't know shit about shit!!!

[pennington]

You don't know shit about shit!!!

So what's your point? He has released his records?

[Barnaby Jones]

I just explained why!!! Chee, you're hopeless!!!

[pennington]

I just explained why!!! Chee, you're hopeless!!!

My, so emotional. Just because someone has a question about the president doesn't mean you have to take it personally. It's OK if you don't know why he won't release his records.

[Willmore]

I think that this is something like a forced accountability. The US Government has had an aura of infallibility around it, because it has no one to be accountable to. Not the UNSC, nor any other country can scold our government. This forces it to take account of its actions before it does them.

[TripleSkeet]

My, so emotional. Just because someone has a question about the president doesn't mean you have to take it personally. It's OK if you don't know why he won't release his records.

How is a mans personal medical and school records anybody else business? I find it hilarious that out of all the presidents that have been elected, the black guy is the only one constantly being accused of faking his qualifications. I have never heard an outcry to see another presidents medical records, school records or birth certificate before. And these people asking for this wonder why they are called racists. Go figure.


As far as Palin goes, how the fuck in Gods name are there people out there that think this birdbrain would make a good president? Can someone explain that to me? She has repeatedly shown that like most hot pieces of ass, shes about as smart as my sneaker. What do you people see that make you want to put this fucking moron in charge of the country???
What I would like to see is her name on the republican primary iin 2012, and regardless of how many votes she gets, she doesnt get to be the candidate, and the only reason she was put on there was so that everyone that voted for her immediately gets their right to vote revoked because they are too stupid to deserve it.

[TripleSkeet]

And theres nothing wrong with what Wikileaks is doing. Its a dick move, but its about time our government take some accountability for their actions.

In related news...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/julian-assange-fired-from-it-job-at-pentagon,18572/

[Barnaby Jones]

My, so emotional. Just because someone has a question about the president doesn't mean you have to take it personally. It's OK if you don't know why he won't release his records.

No, I just don't care!!! Unless someone is a loon who thinks there was this giant conspiracy to fake his college "career," it doesn't really matter! I don't give a shit what classes he took...why do you? Why SHOULD he release these records?

[pennington]

How is a mans personal medical and school records anybody else business? I find it hilarious that out of all the presidents that have been elected, the black guy is the only one constantly being accused of faking his qualifications. I have never heard an outcry to see another presidents medical records, school records or birth certificate before. And these people asking for this wonder why they are called racists. Go figure.

All presidents since at least Reagan (although Ford and Carter may have done it too) have released their medical records. Bill Clinton, who wouldn't release his, is the exception. I remember Dole and McCain did too.

College transcripts have been released since at least George W. Bush and Gore (funny note, Bush had better grades at Yale than John Kerry). McCain released his records from Annapolis. Nothing to do with racism.

As far as Palin goes, how the fuck in Gods name are there people out there that think this birdbrain would make a good president? Can someone explain that to me? She has repeatedly shown that like most hot pieces of ass, shes about as smart as my sneaker. What do you people see that make you want to put this fucking moron in charge of the country???
What I would like to see is her name on the republican primary iin 2012, and regardless of how many votes she gets, she doesnt get to be the candidate, and the only reason she was put on there was so that everyone that voted for her immediately gets their right to vote revoked because they are too stupid to deserve it.

Temper-tantrums about Palin amuse me. If she's so stupid, why worry about her?

[TripleSkeet]

All presidents since at least Reagan (although Ford and Carter may have done it too) have released their medical records. Bill Clinton, who wouldn't release his, is the exception. I remember Dole and McCain did too.

College transcripts have been released since at least George W. Bush and Gore (funny note, Bush had better grades at Yale than John Kerry). McCain released his records from Annapolis. Nothing to do with racism.



Temper-tantrums about Palin amuse me. If she's so stupid, why worry about her?

1. Im not worried about her. Im worried there are enough retarded Americans out there that could put this dope in a position to do some real damage. This is the same country where millions of people watch B-List celebrities ice skate!

2. Really? "College transcripts go all the way back to George W. Bush". Thats 1 fucking president! And the difference with these guys releasing their records, and people DEMANDING them, are 2 different things. You said Clinton refused to release his medical records just like Obama. The difference is when Clinton did it there werent outcries from crazy right wingers swearing he was hiding something.

I dont understand where you feel you have the right to see a persons medical or school records. No matter who that person is. How exactly do you come to the conclusion that you have the right to that information?

[A.J.]

I dont understand where you feel you have the right to see a persons medical or school records. No matter who that person is. How exactly do you come to the conclusion that you have the right to that information?

I remember this was sort of a big issue in the 80s: in 1984, people were worried about Reagan's health because of his age and in 1988, people wanted to be sure that Paul Tsongas was truly cancer-free. In both cases it was a concern over the candidate possibly dying in office.

[TripleSkeet]

I remember this was sort of a big issue in the 80s: in 1984, people were worried about Reagan's health because of his age and in 1988, people wanted to be sure that Paul Tsongas was truly cancer-free. In both cases it was a concern over the candidate possibly dying in office.

That excuse can be used for any canditdate. It doesnt change the fact its nobodies business. I know people that had cancer that lived for years. And perfectly healthy people that died of shit like heart attacks and blood clots out of nowhere.

[pennington]

1. Im not worried about her. Im worried there are enough retarded Americans out there that could put this dope in a position to do some real damage. This is the same country where millions of people watch B-List celebrities ice skate!

Wait, aren't these the same voters who elected Obama by a healthy majority? So they were "retarded"?

2. Really? "College transcripts go all the way back to George W. Bush". Thats 1 fucking president!

Bush + Gore + Kerry + McCain = 1 person who released their transcripts?

Instigating you has been fun but I have to head to an appointment. Let's let this thread get back on topic.

[cougarjake13]

I know that they are a whistle blower site and want to expose evil doer's and all that.
I get it.
But they are kind of messing things up and making things difficult and I believe that eventually, because of this stuff, that corporations will not be as transparent as they are now. I think eventually employees will have no real knowledge of how a company is run and who does what further and further up the chain you go.
Now I'm hearing that Bank Of America may be their next "target", and if Wikileaks has the power to bring down large corporations like that and put thousands and thousands of people out of work, aren't they also kind of manipulating things?
If they know what company will be targeted next and brought down and they can time when they do it, cant they also just buy up stocks in these companies competitors and control the market as well?




not sure id consider them terrorists but if they release any info that could effect any of our troops abroad or put them in serious danger then i wouldnt be in favor of them releasing that info

[foodcourtdruide]

How is a mans personal medical and school records anybody else business? I find it hilarious that out of all the presidents that have been elected, the black guy is the only one constantly being accused of faking his qualifications. I have never heard an outcry to see another presidents medical records, school records or birth certificate before. And these people asking for this wonder why they are called racists. Go figure.




This is really a great point. Do you want to know why I don't know if other presidents release their medical and school records? Because I couldn't give a shit about it. Maybe Obama just doesn't want to release personal information if he feels he doesn't have to? What is wrong with that? Do you think we should know EVERYTHING about his past? If he doesn't tell the media how often him and his wife have sex, do you think there's some cover-up?

TS is totally right. Why do these questions come up about Obama, and not other Presidents?

[foodcourtdruide]

Honestly, why are you obsessing over what she tweets?

Obsessing? You think a few posts on a messageboard is obsessing?

[hanso]

Sometimes a dump is a good thing.

[TripleSkeet]

Wait, aren't these the same voters who elected Obama by a healthy majority? So they were "retarded"?


No, the retarded ones were the ones that voted her one step away from the White House. Im convinced adding her as his running mate killed any chance McCain had of becoming president. The country is filled with morons, but right now they are still the minority.

Dont get me wrong, I honestly dont believe she has any chance in hell of ever becoming president, what I dont get is why anyone would think shed be a good one.

[furie]

Are Wikileaks Terrorists?

no, they're 21st century journalists.

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[hanso]

wikileaks.ch now.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We should keep the top secret records where Obama keeps his birth cert and college records :lol:


Relax everyone it was in jest

[PapaBear]

We should keep the top secret records where Obama keeps his birth cert and college records :lol:


Relax everyone it was in jest
It was in jest, but you still emoticon self laughed. :nono:

[Crispy123]

no, they're 21st century journalists.



You mean they use virtual reality, electronic mail and flying cars?

[hanso]

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