Fez brilliant in these older best-ofs.

[Hepcat22]

The segment where Ron was suggesting Elfish and Fez start tripping on their their way to Memphis had Fez zinging back hilarious one-liners as fast or faster than Ron.

How in the world did he get from then to here?

I blame the cat and that island.

[Tenbatsuzen]

The segment where Ron was suggesting Elfish and Fez start tripping on their their way to Memphis had Fez zinging back hilarious one-liners as fast or faster than Ron.

How in the world did he get from then to here?

I blame the cat and that island.

He was living on the island before the Troubles started, if I recall correctly - he bought the place in the WNEW days and maintained it when they left for DC.

[CountryBob]

I dont think that he ows his apartment - didnt he have a moment last year that he could not have re-upped his lease? I remember Ron and company trying to get him to move before the deadline.

[JBLouisville]

Yeah, that bit was what hooked me on Ron and Fez. It's a darn shame.

I really noticed no turning back, about the time of "Out your Friends Monday" rolled about.

[TjM]

How in the world did he get from then to here?



Mental illness + being gay with a crazy religious upbringing

It's a surefire coctail for crazy

[Dudeman]

How in the world did he get from then to here?


I've been listening since 2000, and I think 3 things have changed:

1. No question Fez has had problems. Everyone knows these issues. (By the way, I've traced the start of the problems back to June 4th 2003.)

2. The show's content and Ron have changed. They would have Elfish on and talk about acid trips to graceland; crazy stuff with Al, Billy, and Joe Poo; the great calls with Jan Brady, Iris, and Andre the Giant. Fez felt comfortable with that stuff. He doesn't feel comfortable talking about David Mamet and Annie leibovitz. It isn't reasonable for Ron or Fez to think that getting the "old" Fez back will make him fit in with the new show. (If Ron wants that content an integral part of the show, I think alot of listeners would like that- but he just has to expect Fez not to be able to participate. Think of it this way, Al Dukes, Billy, Joe Poo, Harry wouldn't have contributed much to those discussions either.)

3. The old shows also had a lot of news topics or discussion of some study's results. That's what the whole "fastest hour in radio" was. Fez would bring up the topic, then Ron and Fez would talk and joke about the topic. When Fez tries to initiate a conversation by doing the same thing now, Ron either leaves dead air and goes to the phones, or he taunts Fez with a "truth bomb" comment. No wonder Fez is anxious about talking on the show if that's the response he's going to always get from Ron.

In sum, yes Fez has had his problems, and they may be the foundation for the change. But there are other factors.

This has been my Fezatorial. Thank-you.

[JPMNICK]

I've been listening since 2000, and I think 3 things have changed:

1. No question Fez has had problems. Everyone knows these issues. (By the way, I've traced the start of the problems back to June 4th 2003.)

2. The show's content and Ron have changed. They would have Elfish on and talk about acid trips to graceland; crazy stuff with Al, Billy, and Joe Poo; the great calls with Jan Brady, Iris, and Andre the Giant. Fez felt comfortable with that stuff. He doesn't feel comfortable talking about David Mamet and Annie leibovitz. It isn't reasonable for Ron or Fez to think that getting the "old" Fez back will make him fit in with the new show. (If Ron wants that content an integral part of the show, I think alot of listeners would like that- but he just has to expect Fez not to be able to participate. Think of it this way, Al Dukes, Billy, Joe Poo, Harry wouldn't have contributed much to those discussions either.)

3. The old shows also had a lot of news topics or discussion of some study's results. That's what the whole "fastest hour in radio" was. Fez would bring up the topic, then Ron and Fez would talk and joke about the topic. When Fez tries to initiate a conversation by doing the same thing now, Ron either leaves dead air and goes to the phones, or he taunts Fez with a "truth bomb" comment. No wonder Fez is anxious about talking on the show if that's the response he's going to always get from Ron.

In sum, yes Fez has had his problems, and they may be the foundation for the change. But there are other factors.

This has been my Fezatorial. Thank-you.

This is the exact reply I would gave typed. Ron used to be wayyy more of a shock Jock in your face Guy. He came to xm and moved the show in a new direction.

[Dudeman]

This is the exact reply I would gave typed. Ron used to be wayyy more of a shock Jock in your face Guy. He came to xm and moved the show in a new direction.

I don't think Ron was ever shock-jock; the show was just more light-hearted.

[disneyspy]

This is the exact reply I would gave typed. Ron used to be wayyy more of a shock Jock in your face Guy. He came to xm and moved the show in a new direction.

you shouldve heard the florida days, soooo much better,they settled down ALOT when they moved up north

[JPMNICK]

I don't think Ron was ever shock-jock; the show was just more light-hearted.

He used to torture al dukes have weekly teen girl drinking shows with fighting and nudity and do iris to bad guests.

[Philly Franko]

The segment where Ron was suggesting Elfish and Fez start tripping on their their way to Memphis had Fez zinging back hilarious one-liners as fast or faster than Ron.

How in the world did he get from then to here?

I blame the cat and that island.

Fez stopped believing in God...does not eat right,his blood sugar is rarely stable.takes too many pills and does not get any exercise or do anyhthing social...he needs a girlfriend and a personal trainer and a nutritionist...and he needs to get a driver (like kenny) or at least take taxis ,since he is afraid of subways and elevators/excalators etc...Cheapy McCheapstien needs to spend some of his millions and move into Manhattan.....I love the old Fez and want him back..Just going to Church and praying will help him big time...Costs nothing but time and a donation...

[hurlmon]

I've been listening since 2000, and I think 3 things have changed:

1. No question Fez has had problems. Everyone knows these issues. (By the way, I've traced the start of the problems back to June 4th 2003.)

2. The show's content and Ron have changed. They would have Elfish on and talk about acid trips to graceland; crazy stuff with Al, Billy, and Joe Poo; the great calls with Jan Brady, Iris, and Andre the Giant. Fez felt comfortable with that stuff. He doesn't feel comfortable talking about David Mamet and Annie leibovitz. It isn't reasonable for Ron or Fez to think that getting the "old" Fez back will make him fit in with the new show. (If Ron wants that content an integral part of the show, I think alot of listeners would like that- but he just has to expect Fez not to be able to participate. Think of it this way, Al Dukes, Billy, Joe Poo, Harry wouldn't have contributed much to those discussions either.)

3. The old shows also had a lot of news topics or discussion of some study's results. That's what the whole "fastest hour in radio" was. Fez would bring up the topic, then Ron and Fez would talk and joke about the topic. When Fez tries to initiate a conversation by doing the same thing now, Ron either leaves dead air and goes to the phones, or he taunts Fez with a "truth bomb" comment. No wonder Fez is anxious about talking on the show if that's the response he's going to always get from Ron.

In sum, yes Fez has had his problems, and they may be the foundation for the change. But there are other factors.

This has been my Fezatorial. Thank-you.

I would say the show adapted more than changed . Technically still a change, but due to mostly Fez. When Fez was just dipping into crazy he would still bring up topics but as time went on he couldn't discuss them. It was like he would go home after a show. Panic all night, then grab the morning paper and only read the headlines for that days show prep.

Then the topics started to became less varied. Everything was a study, list or gay. So now Ron brings up the topics and since he does most of the talking he brings up what interests him and what he wants to talk about. Some of which might still ocasionally be a study, list or gay. Even when it's a topic Fez would normally join in on odds are that he is "locked up" with panic, so why try to pick Fez Topics?

Does he cut Fez off now? Sure. As Ron has said "Tell a joke or be the joke". Looks like Fez is now the joke.

Ever notice how often Ron says something to the effect of "oh.. taking the serious route" after he sets Fez up for a fun line/come back and it goes over Fez's head?

Without the old Fez you can't have the old style show. The cast of characters need Catty Fez to interact with along with Ron. Change a hosts style on any show and the show will be different

[zildjian361]

Fez isn't quite vocal as in the WNEW days, He's been through alot in the last year or two. Still can't do the Show without Him.:wub:

[underdog]

Fez stopped believing in God...does not eat right,his blood sugar is rarely stable.takes too many pills and does not get any exercise or do anyhthing social...he needs a girlfriend and a personal trainer and a nutritionist...and he needs to get a driver (like kenny) or at least take taxis ,since he is afraid of subways and elevators/excalators etc...Cheapy McCheapstien needs to spend some of his millions and move into Manhattan.....I love the old Fez and want him back..Just going to Church and praying will help him big time...Costs nothing but time and a donation...

Yeah, Jesus is what the old queen needs.

Maybe if he prayed to Batman he'd have better results.

[spoon]

I think he DOES pray to batman. So scratch that one off the list.

[underdog]

I think he DOES pray to batman. So scratch that one off the list.

I thought he was praying to the Riddler.

[IamFogHat]

I think he DOES jack to batman. So scratch that one off the list.

I thought he was jackingto the Riddler.

Check and check.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Fez stopped believing in God...does not eat right,his blood sugar is rarely stable.takes too many pills and does not get any exercise or do anyhthing social...he needs a girlfriend and a personal trainer and a nutritionist...and he needs to get a driver (like kenny) or at least take taxis ,since he is afraid of subways and elevators/excalators etc...Cheapy McCheapstien needs to spend some of his millions and move into Manhattan.....I love the old Fez and want him back..Just going to Church and praying will help him big time...Costs nothing but time and a donation...

http://trustedbi.com/images/puzzled-man.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

I've been listening since 2000, and I think 3 things have changed:

1. No question Fez has had problems. Everyone knows these issues. (By the way, I've traced the start of the problems back to June 4th 2003.)



I disagree - The start of the problems was August 2002. That's when O&A got cancelled and the shoe started hanging over R&F. If you want an exact date, it's January 27, 2003, when "Blink" came on the air.


2. The show's content and Ron have changed. They would have Elfish on and talk about acid trips to graceland; crazy stuff with Al, Billy, and Joe Poo; the great calls with Jan Brady, Iris, and Andre the Giant. Fez felt comfortable with that stuff. He doesn't feel comfortable talking about David Mamet and Annie leibovitz. It isn't reasonable for Ron or Fez to think that getting the "old" Fez back will make him fit in with the new show. (If Ron wants that content an integral part of the show, I think alot of listeners would like that- but he just has to expect Fez not to be able to participate. Think of it this way, Al Dukes, Billy, Joe Poo, Harry wouldn't have contributed much to those discussions either.)


But that's two totally different timeframes of the show. Al, Billy, and Poo were all part of the WNEW era. Elfish didn't come on til the WJFK era, and the Graceland trip wasn't until XM.


3. The old shows also had a lot of news topics or discussion of some study's results. That's what the whole "fastest hour in radio" was. Fez would bring up the topic, then Ron and Fez would talk and joke about the topic. When Fez tries to initiate a conversation by doing the same thing now, Ron either leaves dead air and goes to the phones, or he taunts Fez with a "truth bomb" comment. No wonder Fez is anxious about talking on the show if that's the response he's going to always get from Ron.

In sum, yes Fez has had his problems, and they may be the foundation for the change. But there are other factors.

This has been my Fezatorial. Thank-you.

I do agree with this. There have been a BUNCH of instances where Fez tries something and Ron does NOTHING to work with him and it just turns into taunting, which leads me to believe that Ron is trying to get rid of Fez like he gets rid or producers, and Fez is fighting back by being like this, just a giant passive-aggressive circle jerk.

[jlehane]

He knows Fez inside and out.We are just spectators.I hate it when I worry more about Ron than Fez.It's easier to think...how can we fix Fez? Ron is another matter,with the weight on his shoulders.The whole show goes down if Ron is having a bad day.It's sadder than the 3 stooges after Curly had his surgery.It's all about mortality. http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr223/MARNEYtheGHOST/Comedy/002sm04.png

[Philly Franko]

I disagree - The start of the problems was August 2002. That's when O&A got cancelled and the shoe started hanging over R&F. If you want an exact date, it's January 27, 2003, when "Blink" came on the air.



But that's two totally different timeframes of the show. Al, Billy, and Poo were all part of the WNEW era. Elfish didn't come on til the WJFK era, and the Graceland trip wasn't until XM.



I do agree with this. There have been a BUNCH of instances where Fez tries something and Ron does NOTHING to work with him and it just turns into taunting, which leads me to believe that Ron is trying to get rid of Fez like he gets rid or producers, and Fez is fighting back by being like this, just a giant passive-aggressive circle jerk.

I have to agree...Ron has grown and matured...Fez still loves cartoon movies...nothing wrong with this...people change...How about Eastside Dave and Fez with sam as 3rd mic ? Ron is a Great Interviewer and Unmasked and RBIs should be expanded to a full time channel/show or TV...ESD,Pepper,Fez ,Sam and fast Freddie and other guests would be a Fun Lite not 2 serious show...Love Ron n Fez but show mostly sux without ESD and or Earl...how bout Lilly..Sirius Sux for not giving the show a replacement for ESD...Pepper RULES but its Not the same with Dead Air Fez Lately...

[Dudeman]

I disagree - The start of the problems was August 2002. That's when O&A got cancelled and the shoe started hanging over R&F. If you want an exact date, it's January 27, 2003, when "Blink" came on the air.
I agree that there are multiple factors leading to the changes, and no one time or date can be pinpointed. The event you pointed out was just as instrumental in all the changes as the date I pointed out.

But that's two totally different timeframes of the show. Al, Billy, and Poo were all part of the WNEW era. Elfish didn't come on til the WJFK era, and the Graceland trip wasn't until XM.
But that's two totally different timeframes of the show. Al, Billy, and Poo were all part of the WNEW era. Elfish didn't come on til the WJFK era, and the Graceland trip wasn't until XM.
I know. But all of that- Billiy, Joe Poo or Elfish- were all part of a general period in which the show had a different tone than the current show. That's why I grouped them together- I know they all weren't on the show at the same time. (If anything, that demonstrates that the show would change guests and producers but still have the same general tone.)


I do agree with this. There have been a BUNCH of instances where Fez tries something and Ron does NOTHING to work with him and it just turns into taunting, which leads me to believe that Ron is trying to get rid of Fez like he gets rid or producers, and Fez is fighting back by being like this, just a giant passive-aggressive circle jerk.

[Dudeman]

I have to agree...Ron has grown and matured...Fez still loves cartoon movies...nothing wrong with this...people change...

I agree. But that's why I think it is a mistake for Ron and Fez to keep wanting the "old" Fez back. The "old" Fez wouldn't be able to participate with the "new" Ron's choice of topics. So when Ron does that stuff, he has to expect Fez not to participate. But when they talk about just regular daily stuff, like the news, as they often did on the "old" show, Ron has to be willing to interact with Fez then.
Once again, I don't think Ron is in any way the cause of Fez's problems, but I don't think just getting the "old" Fez back is the whole solution.

[hurlmon]

I agree. But that's why I think it is a mistake for Ron and Fez to keep wanting the "old" Fez back. The "old" Fez wouldn't be able to participate with the "new" Ron's choice of topics. So when Ron does that stuff, he has to expect Fez not to participate. But when they talk about just regular daily stuff, like the news, as they often did on the "old" show, Ron has to be willing to interact with Fez then.
Once again, I don't think Ron is in any way the cause of Fez's problems, but I don't think just getting the "old" Fez back is the whole solution.

I think your taking "old Fez" to literal. He just wants the guy who he could bounce things off of, set up for one liners and have fun with. They guy who wasn't always serious and even when he didn't know a lot about a subject could still pop in with a line here and there.

[Crispy123]

Fez is brilliant.

Shouldn't this be merged with the captain obvious thread?

[Joe Pietaro]

Someone needs to go and deface the Andy Griffith statue again to light a fire under Fez's ass.

[Lady Resin]

Listening to the absinthe show from JFK on Don & Mike. He sounded so happy & carefree.

[jlehane]

Listening to the absinthe show from JFK on Don & Mike. He sounded so happy & carefree. the PROGRESSIVE insurance witch in the sidebar advertising.Perky and pumped up.Another Christine O'Donnell.