Is the Tunisian Unrest an Isolated Event or a Trend

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Let the crucifixions begin. I wonder how much per person we are paying in foreign aid


http://in.news.yahoo.com/muslim-brotherhood-crucifying-opponents-president-attacking-secular-media-101415002.html

[A.J.]

Always look on the bright side of life.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I guess it's less violent than throwing people to the lions

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Film critics in Cairo. They were angry about a film in which Mohammed was blasphemed in their opinion. Warning shots fired by US Embassy guards.



http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/11/warning-shots-fired-as-cairo-protesters-storm-u-s-embassy-walls/?hpt=hp_t1

[A.J.]

Film critics in Cairo. They were angry about a film in which Mohammed was blasphemed in their opinion. Warning shots fired by US Embassy guards.



http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/11/warning-shots-fired-as-cairo-protesters-storm-u-s-embassy-walls/?hpt=hp_t1

Don't they know that our Nobel Peace Prize-winning, Muslim President would never allow that?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Lets continue to give them money and aid and forgive their debts. They will love us

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This is what Democracy looks like , This is what Democracy looks like



http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-security-official-says-1-american-shot-dead-000744145.html?_esi=1

[Dude!]

This is what Democracy looks like , This is what Democracy looks like



http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-security-official-says-1-american-shot-dead-000744145.html?_esi=1

time for another apology tour

[WRESTLINGFAN]

time for another apology tour

Nah, he will just interfere in Syria and help Al Qaeda there. McCain is his top cheerleader

[A.J.]

They killed the U.S. Ambassador to Libya. That's kind of a big deal. Sort of like the Tehran Embassy takeover in 1979.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Great strategy. Borrow money from China to fund crucifixions, embassy and church burnings

[Dude!]

Hillary's remarks were very good

obama should just shut up
and leave it to her

[A.J.]

Hillary's remarks were very good

obama should just shut up
and leave it to her

I never thought I'd say this but we might have been better off with her.

[Dude!]

I never thought I'd say this but we might have been better off with her.

ditto

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Reports are that Al Qaeda was behind the consulate attack in Libya. Great going McCain, Graham Obama and others.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Statement from Gary Johnson Libertarian candidate for POTUS




" It is tragic when Americans serving their country are murdered, and we both mourn their loss and honor their service.

Part of honoring that service is to ask the obvious question: What U.S. interest is being served by putting our people – and our money – in places where U.S. personnel can be killed by extremists over a video? We launched millions of dollars worth of missiles to bring down Gaddafi, and this is what we get. We hail and encourage the outbreak of an Arab Spring in Egypt, send them billions of dollars we can’t afford, — and our embassy is breached and our flag desecrated.

In Afghanistan, we continue to put our troops in harm’s way 10 years after our post-9/11 mission was complete. Why?

The airwaves are filled today with political chest-pounding and calls for decisive action. The most decisive and prudent action we can take today is to stop trying to manage governments and peoples on the other side of the globe who don’t want to be managed, get our people out of impossible situations that have no direct U.S. interest, and immediately stop sending money to regimes who clearly cannot or will not control their own countries.

Protecting America with a strong national defense and a rational foreign policy is our leaders’ most basic responsibility. But let us not confuse national security with senseless intervention where our interests are clearly not being served."



:clap::clap::clap::clap::

[Dan 'Hampton]

You're usually spewing retarded shit but I agree wholeheartedly.

[hanso]

Guess they never saw the movie Istar.

[A.J.]

Statement from Gary Johnson Libertarian candidate for POTUS




" It is tragic when Americans serving their country are murdered, and we both mourn their loss and honor their service.

Part of honoring that service is to ask the obvious question: What U.S. interest is being served by putting our people – and our money – in places where U.S. personnel can be killed by extremists over a video? We launched millions of dollars worth of missiles to bring down Gaddafi, and this is what we get. We hail and encourage the outbreak of an Arab Spring in Egypt, send them billions of dollars we can’t afford, — and our embassy is breached and our flag desecrated.

In Afghanistan, we continue to put our troops in harm’s way 10 years after our post-9/11 mission was complete. Why?

The airwaves are filled today with political chest-pounding and calls for decisive action. The most decisive and prudent action we can take today is to stop trying to manage governments and peoples on the other side of the globe who don’t want to be managed, get our people out of impossible situations that have no direct U.S. interest, and immediately stop sending money to regimes who clearly cannot or will not control their own countries.

Protecting America with a strong national defense and a rational foreign policy is our leaders’ most basic responsibility. But let us not confuse national security with senseless intervention where our interests are clearly not being served."



:clap::clap::clap::clap::

EVERY embassy is a potential target. Believe me, I've been to a few that wouldn't be that difficult to attack. So we should shut down every embassy around the world and have no diplomatic missions anywhere? That is a ridiculous, knee-jerk statement from somehow who doesn't understand how foreign policy works.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think he was eluding to was we keep making the same mistake over and over with some of these countries in regards to toppling dictators and the new regimes are not better. We want to spread democracy, however it doesnt always turn out in our favor.

[A.J.]

Fuck spreading democracy. We need to spread our business. That's the American Way.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So when does Obama throw Hillary under the bus ?

[sailor]

I think he was eluding to was we keep making the same mistake over and over with some of these countries in regards to toppling dictators and the new regimes are not better. We want to spread democracy, however it doesnt always turn out in our favor.

If you want to agree with that part, fine. I disagree but so be it. He quite clearly states what AJ has an issue with "Part of honoring that service is to ask the obvious question: What U.S. interest is being served by putting our people – and our money – in places where U.S. personnel can be killed by extremists over a video?" I agree with AJ that this is a silly thing to say, and really calls his abilities into question.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If you want to agree with that part, fine. I disagree but so be it. He quite clearly states what AJ has an issue with "Part of honoring that service is to ask the obvious question: What U.S. interest is being served by putting our people – and our money – in places where U.S. personnel can be killed by extremists over a video?" I agree with AJ that this is a silly thing to say, and really calls his abilities into question.

I don't see it that way. I don't believe that he wants the US to be totally isolationist however I agree with Johnson that we are borrowing billions just to have it thrown down a rathole. We are trying to buy friends with people who dont want to be friendly with us.

[sailor]

We are trying to buy friends with people who dont want to be friendly with us.

totally agree. If it worked, maybe, but it doesn't.

[Dude!]

if this Egypt/Libya/Mideast situation
is not an early "October surprise"
then we should all really dread October

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558284_465191420180439_122949273_n.jpg

[keithy_19]

Pull out all Americans in these countries. Carpet bomb the whole place. Fuck it. I'm bored with living anway. Bring it on Mayans,

[keithy_19]

Or just pull out of the entire middle east and allow them to fuck themselves up. That's all they seem to do.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Or just pull out of the entire middle east and allow them to fuck themselves up. That's all they seem to do.

Dont forget Afghanistan. Fuck them too.

[keithy_19]

Dont forget Afghanistan. Fuck them too.

I'm all inclusive. It's a hell hole and has been forever.

[keithy_19]

I'm glad the AP has found out the identity of the guy who made that movie. I'm glad we have someone to blame now for the death of Americans and the destruction that is going on. You know, because movies that depict something that you don't like makes it perfectly reasonable to kill people and riot.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Dont forget Afghanistan. Fuck them too.



And the south!

[Snoogans]

And the south!

and Mexicans.....even though he is one

[Dan 'Hampton]

Watch that flick on YouTube. It's fantastically awful.

[Dan 'Hampton]

If I had paid to see it you'd be able to convince me to kill the director.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Couldnt have been a Jew who produced that movie. They make great films

[WRESTLINGFAN]

and Mexicans.....even though he is one

Yo soy un Mexicano ?

[Snoogans]

Yo soy un Mexicano ?

the picture you put up of yourself looked some sorta latin. Maybe puerto rican with a chin strap

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the picture you put up of yourself looked some sorta latin. Maybe puerto rican with a chin strap

American of Italian background, in any case some consider that non white.

[Snoogans]

American of Italian background, in any case some consider that non white.

shit thats even worse, that means you're black

[WRESTLINGFAN]

shit thats even worse, that means you're black

That is mostly towards people of Sicilian background

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is this just an Arab thing? I havent seen anything on the news of people in Malaysia and Indonesia which has the highest muslim population in the world overtaking or trying to overtake embassies.

[Dude!]

Is this just an Arab thing? I havent seen anything on the news of people in Malaysia and Indonesia which has the highest muslim population in the world overtaking or trying to overtake embassies.

yes and no...
Iranians aren't a-rabs
but they are big troublemakers

[Dude!]

The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".

Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html

uh-oh...
State Dept. had warnings
but didn't tell the ambassador
and his employees...

and now they are dead

WF...you were right:
someone will be scapegoated
and it may be Hillary

this thing is spiraling fast

[hanso]

There may be no anti-Islamic movie at all

Cindy Lee Garcia tells the website that she was hired last summer for a small part in a movie she was told would be called "Desert Warriors," about life in Egypt 2,000 years ago (Islam is about 1,400 years old).

She told Gawker "It wasn't based on anything to do with religion, it was just on how things were run in Egypt. There wasn't anything about Muhammed or Muslims

The one verifiable person involved in this strange tale so far is Steve Klein, an evangelical Christian and anti-Islamic activist with ties to militia groups and a Coptic Christian satellite TV station based in California. Klein told Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic earlier today that he was a consultant on the film, that "Sam Bacile," was a pseudonym,

http://gawker.com/5942748

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0912/There-may-be-no-anti-Islamic-movie-at-all

Yep just like the pastor T jones who burned the holy book

[A.J.]

Couldnt have been a Jew who produced that movie. They make great films

Yeah, but they didn't spend a lot to make this one so it IS possible.

[A.J.]

No One Murdered Because Of This Image (http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

DEATH TO AMERICA!!!!!!!


For hating us they all want to be like us carrying their I Phones

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now the outrage tour is spreading to Sudan. Next stop Somalia?. Will it go to Indonesia? They may do damage to this work of art


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvblackspin.com/media/2009/12/obama_statue2.jpg

[A.J.]

Now the outrage tour is spreading to Sudan. Next stop Somalia

Nope: Tunis.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Nope: Tunis.

Birthplace of the Arab spring

[WRESTLINGFAN]

My favorite Angry muslim



http://pinkmsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/angry_muslim_man_2_xlarge.jpg

[A.J.]

My favorite Angry muslim



http://pinkmsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/angry_muslim_man_2_xlarge.jpg

Ibrahim Lincoln.

[sailor]

Ibrahim Lincoln.

Ha!

[Dude!]

http://pinkmsg.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/angry_muslim_man_2_xlarge.jpg

Ibrahim Lincoln.

Ibrahim Lincoln: Vampire Hunter!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They burned a KFC in Lebanon. Because ya know Col. Sanders is a JEW!!!!!

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'd burn a KFC just for propagating shitty chicken.
Shitty movie made by softcore porn director. You don't say.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Anyone tries to burn down the KFC near me. I'll wage my own Jihad against them

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/26754378.jpg



You can generate your own here



http://memegenerator.net/Angry-Muslim-Guy/images/popular/alltime/page/2

[Furtherman]

I have been away. What happened while I was gone? Did religion solve all the world problems and usher in a new era of peace?

[hanso]

I have been away. What happened while I was gone? Did religion solve all the world problems and usher in a new era of peace?

Breadman and rock throwing again.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The administration is up in arms over some awful movie, However maybe it was the constant boasting of them saying Osama is dead especially over the last couple of weeks

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I have been away. What happened while I was gone? Did religion solve all the world problems and usher in a new era of peace?

The Cairo speech of 2009 was supposed to heal everything

[brettmojo]

The administration is up in arms over some awful movie, However maybe it was the constant boasting of them saying Osama is dead especially over the last couple of weeks

Can't wait to get a republican back in the White House... God knows they don't like to bang their chests about anything...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I7rE8-jZ1OA/UCAfrBkJMRI/AAAAAAAAFMM/w7fnHv3MKCI/s1600/mission-accomplished.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im so glad the Administration didn't pound their chests about the Arab Spring. Oh nevermind!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/310621_445734745465009_1032368136_n.jpg

[A.J.]

They burned a KFC in Lebanon. Because ya know Col. Sanders is a JEW!!!!!

Don't worry: there are probably 10 more in the area.

[Furtherman]

The administration is up in arms over some awful movie, However maybe it was the constant boasting of them saying Osama is dead especially over the last couple of weeks

No, they're not.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No, they're not.

Really? Jay Carney and Hillary mentioned the film more than once

[Dude!]

Really? Jay Carney and Hillary mentioned the film more than once

she even mentioned it
in a highly inappropriate
setting...the service for the
people killed

[Dude!]

the Brits need to get
Harry out of Afghanistan

it was a huge mistake
to send him there and
to tell everybody about it

people are dead
because of it

[WRESTLINGFAN]

she even mentioned it
in a highly inappropriate
setting...the service for the
people killed

She needs to be marched in front of congress to discuss why there was lackluster security in Bengazi after multiple warnings and subsequent attacks

[Dan 'Hampton]

Yawn. You fucking keyboard experts bore me.

[hanso]

Yawn. You fucking keyboard experts bore me.

It's not hard to repeat right wing talking points.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

It's not hard to repeat right wing talking points.

Repeat this one. It goes perfectly with the Arab Spring


"DEMOCRACY IS MOB RULE"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yawn. You fucking keyboard experts bore me.

After Khadafi is toppled the flag of Al Qaeda flies in Bengazi

June 6th and IED goes off near the consulate in Bengazi

Look what your Arab spring turned into.

Obviously Hillary ignored the warnings. Then blames a poorly made movie

Go back to sleep.

[Furtherman]

The movie sparked the outrage of Islamic extremests. It sucks, but we can't predict when they'll flip their primitive minds next.

[A.J.]

The movie sparked the outrage of Islamic extremests.

Who in turn, riled up the mindless masses.

I was reading the Arab papers online and basically they want the U.S. to criminalize any insult against one of God's prophets: Muhammad, Abraham, Jesus, whomever.

So no freedom of speech. God has thin skin!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who in turn, riled up the mindless masses.

I was reading the Arab papers online and basically they want the U.S. to criminalize any insult against one of God's prophets: Muhammad, Abraham, Jesus, whomever.

So no freedom of speech. God has thin skin!

Mike Barnacle wants them prosecuted

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/the-arena/2012/09/the-land-of-not-so-free-speech/


I read an online paper yesterday that some Egyptian cleric wants a UN mandate against blasphemy towards Islam

[Furtherman]

Who in turn, riled up the mindless masses.

I was reading the Arab papers online and basically they want the U.S. to criminalize any insult against one of God's prophets: Muhammad, Abraham, Jesus, whomever.

So no freedom of speech. God has thin skin!

I read and saw people saying they did not want to attack the U.S., they just wanted all who insulted their god to be publicly put to death. It is not the majority in those countries who want that... The majority want to just live their lives. We can't help that, because we have the religious right here.. the extremests like Westboro.. they don't kill, yet, but they are the same type if mindless human.

[hanso]

I read and saw people saying they did not want to attack the U.S., they just wanted all who insulted their god to be publicly put to death. It is not the majority in those countries who want that... The majority want to just live their lives. We can't help that, because we have the religious right here.. the extremests like Westboro.. they don't kill, yet, but they are the same type if mindless human.

Yeah I heard Terry Jones the one that burned the Qur'an and started a mess last time is promoting this film.

[Furtherman]

There will always be a minority of assholes who make more noise and horrible acts than the masses. It is the same in every country. Uneducated, sad, selfish fools.

[hanso]

The same ones that should practice indifference sure love to stir the shit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Add Indonesia and the Philippines to the rage tour

[A.J.]

Add Indonesia and the Philippines to the rage tour

Actually, I give the Filipino Muslims some credit:

Rebels ‘will not aim for American targets’
The Philippines’ largest insurgent group yesterday rejected Al Qaeda calls to attack US targets over an anti-Islam film that has sparked protests around the world.
The Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) has instructed its 12,000 members to observe a ceasefire pact with the government, and will not attack US targets in the country, the MILF’s chief political officer Ghazali Jaafar said.
“We do not live in the dark ages, there are rules and laws that need to be followed,” Jaafar said by telephone from the MILF’s southern headquarters. “We have an existing ceasefire with the Philippines, and we will not violate that.”
He branded the killing of the US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and three other Americans at the US consulate in Benghazi a “senseless act of violence”.
“Even in war, there are international norms that need to be accepted, including the protection of diplomats and embassies,” he said, while condemning those behind the amateur film produced in the US that sparked the violence.
Jaafar said the MILF would monitor other groups in the mainly Catholic Philippines, adding: “We will inform government negotiators of any impending terror attacks.”
A rebellion has raged in the southern Philippines since the early 1970s, leaving some 150,000 dead.
Meanwhile, the Philippine government assured the safety of US diplomats in the country, in the wake of attacks and demonstrations against the US in response to an anti-Islam video.
American Ambassador Harry Thomas and other personnel at the US Embassy in Manila are under no danger of being harmed by Filipinos, said deputy presidential spokeswoman Abigail Valte.
“Our Muslim community has always conducted themselves with goodwill and sobriety,” she said. “The government can guarantee the safety of the US embassy.”
Police have stepped up security at the US embassy
since September 11. Agencies

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I love Filipina MILFS :thumbup:

Is that group larger than the Abu Sayyef? I remember hearing more about them especially in the southern part of the country

[A.J.]

If I remember correctly, yes, And they pretty much run the southern island of Mindanao.

[TripleSkeet]

Apparently the movie version that went online is the "directors cut".

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2012/09/a-letter-from-scared-actress.html

[Snoogans]

Actually, I give the Filipino Muslims some credit:

yea thats good shit. its nice to see someone sensible about things. Also, hopefully they are ones who realize its not the US or the government or anything that did this. It was some guy.

The movie was retarded, and was completely intended just to piss people off. However, sadly, it showed to be more correct than anyone ever thought that it caused people to do this.

Basically that would be like Jamaica firebombing the US cause one person called some black guy a nigger. It really makes muslims look bad that they cant properly show their displeasure

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Isnt there supposed to be some movie about the Bin Laden raid coming out near year end?


If some awfully made movie got them upset imagine what a major studio film might do

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The administration still believing that the attacks on the embassy was due to the movie and nothing else is really bush league.


Ayman Al Zawahiri mentioned the killing of someone named Al Libbi which translates to Arabic as from Libya

It had to be a coordinated planned attack. McCain who I am no fan of made a good point that regular protesters dont go to voice their opinions with RPG's

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ambassador Stevens feared for his life. But up until yesterday it was blamed on a movie



http://news.yahoo.com/report-ambassador-stevens-said-al-qaeda-hit-list-100457747.html

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Next week Piss Christ returns to NYC. Watch out for those violent Catholics.


I believe in freedom of speech and expression however its not the governments role to determine what is art meaning our taxdollars should not be financing Piss Christ or any painting, photo etc. Let the money be raised via private sector.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Seems like every day, there's a different version of what happened.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209570/Now-White-House-admits-knew-24-hours-Al-Qaeda-Libya-attacks.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Israel might be crackin the whip on Gaza


They called up 30,000 reservists and they took out the military ldr of Hamas. The Pal's have been sending rockets over into Israel

[Kevin]

Just let them go and wipe each other out.

Let Iran get in it Egypt EVERYONE.

Lets rid ourselves of that fucking black hole of a place once and for all.

We need to stay out of this shit.

[brettmojo]

Just let them go and wipe each other out.

Let Iran get in it Egypt EVERYONE.

Lets rid ourselves of that fucking black hole of a place once and for all.

We need to stay out of this shit.

Just in time for x'mas.

[hanso]

Israel might be crackin the whip on Gaza


They called up 30,000 reservists and they took out the military ldr of Hamas. The Pal's have been sending rockets over into Israel

Bombing babies for peace.

[keithy_19]

Bombing babies for peace.

Terrible that children are being killed on both sides of this. It's a sad thing.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Just in time for x'mas.

And Chanukah

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How do you say Give the man an Oscar in Arabic?



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