This Is Definitely Police Procedure

[underdog]

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[Snacks]

How dumb was that bitch, run you got lucky he didnt hold you at first after beating you! The crowd was even telling her to run!

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

If people would just fucking behave they wouldn't get cracked with a nightstick.

[Snacks]

They brought it old school!


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[PapaBear]

Videos like this should be required viewing in school, so people will learn not to fucking interfere with the cops.

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

They need to bring back corporal punishment in the schools so they don't even have to get to the point were the police have to do the behavior modifying.

[Syd]

well at least the cops didn't murder anyone this time, so that's something of an improvement.

[StanUpshaw]

I find it just as gross when you guys glorify scumbag assholes like this as when MLC-types glorify the mob.

How would some unnamed father who might be reading this thread feel if his teenage daughter got roughed up by that fucking thug?

[Snacks]

I find it just as gross when you guys glorify scumbag assholes like this as when MLC-types glorify the mob.

How would some unnamed father who might be reading this thread feel if his teenage daughter got roughed up by that fucking thug?

What?

[A.J.]

I find it just as gross when you guys glorify scumbag assholes like this as when MLC-types glorify the mob.

How would some unnamed father who might be reading this thread feel if his teenage daughter got roughed up by that fucking thug?

Hopefully their kid wouldn't be as stupid as to interfere.

[StanUpshaw]

Let's not forget that her "interference" came as a result of this fucking Neanderthal shattering her boyfriend's tibias for no reason.

Why the fuck should MORE violence be added into the situation? How was that remotely called for?

[Furtherman]

I can't really tell where this girl came from - was she in the car? Was she being beat up by the other girl in the black tank top? I looks like the girl in the black was the one who should have been locked up. But yea, the other girl, in red, should not have interfered.

Excessive? Maybe. But I think this St. Patricks Day in Savannah, right? Which is a crazy time and that's what happens when you do fuck around at night after a long day - cops will not tolerate any more shit.

[foodcourtdruide]

Let's not forget that her "interference" came as a result of this fucking Neanderthal shattering her boyfriend's tibias for no reason.

Why the fuck should MORE violence be added into the situation? How was that remotely called for?

I like how people in this thread are like "well, that's what you get for interfering!", as if it would be easy for any of them to just sit back and watch a loved one get pummeled by a storm trooper. It's not like she tried to fight the cop, it looks like she was pleading with him to stop.

I'm finally on StanUpshaw's side! Feels good!

[StanUpshaw]

I'm finally on StanUpshaw's side! Feels good!

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[instrument]

I don't even understand this video, it looks like that cop was beating the shit out of a guy who had both hands in the air?

[Syd]

I don't even understand this video, it looks like that cop was beating the shit out of a guy who had both hands in the air?

it's called "cops are fetishized by American society and consequently powertrip all over the fucking place"

the guy just decides to attack someone with a deadly weapon (let's call a spade a spade) because he's too incompetent to know how to de-escalate a situation.

[underdog]

I like how people in this thread are like "well, that's what you get for interfering!", as if it would be easy for any of them to just sit back and watch a loved one get pummeled by a storm trooper. It's not like she tried to fight the cop, it looks like she was pleading with him to stop.

I'm finally on StanUpshaw's side! Feels good!

Yeah, I agree. I posted on my facebook, too, and the responses were the same. How does anyone view this as ok!?

I don't even understand this video, it looks like that cop was beating the shit out of a guy who had both hands in the air?

There are so many things wrong in this video.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The military is held at high standards when dealing with deadly force. Cops shouldnt be exempt .The cop believed that the girl in the red top was trying to interfere with an arrest, Was she dangerous? In my opinion not at all This was a bad judgement call by that cop.

[Jayw]

The cop believed that the girl in the red top was trying to interfere with an arrest, Was she dangerous? In my opinion not at all This was a bad judgement call by that cop.

You mean the girl that was throwing haymakers into the car? Ya shes definitely an angel...

The cop taking swings at the dude trying to surrender was wack though.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

You mean the girl that was throwing haymakers into the car? Ya shes definitely an angel...

The cop taking swings at the dude trying to surrender was wack though.

5 or 6 swings at her, then dragging her back to eat pavement like that? Yes thats excessive

[Jayw]

I am surprised they didnt bust out their trusty tasers, I guess thats a one on one situation though. until they come out with the multi shot.

[Chigworthy]

All college kids are drunk fuckups and should be beaten.

[foodcourtdruide]

5 or 6 swings at her, then dragging her back to eat pavement like that? Yes thats excessive

The cop is literally chasing her to hit her. I don't understand how anyone can be OK with this.

[IamFogHat]

I hope that animal loses his fucking job.

[foodcourtdruide]

I hope that animal loses his fucking job.

I can't believe the force he throws her to the ground with. Please explain to me how anyone can think that's not excessive? If I was a libertarian THIS would scare me more than ANY tax.

[underdog]

All college kids are drunk fuckups and should be beaten.

I think we can all agree on that.

The cop is literally chasing her to hit her. I don't understand how anyone can be OK with this.

Yeah, people just see some drunk cunt getting her face smashed in the pavement and think it's hilarious, not realizing that it could be their drunk ass.

Or if anyone thinks "I wouldn't interfere," I wonder if that's what the kid was thinking as he put his hands up and the cop blasted him with his stick.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I can't believe the force he throws her to the ground with. Please explain to me how anyone can think that's not excessive? If I was a libertarian THIS would scare me more than ANY tax.

Both scare me however taxes can always be repealed, I am afraid more of cases like this. no one in their right mind wants a massive police state.

[foodcourtdruide]

Both scare me however taxes can always be repealed, I am afraid more of cases like this. no one in their right mind wants a massive police state.

I don't know. I think there are some people in this thread that seem to be OK with it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I don't know. I think there are some people in this thread that seem to be OK with it.

I don't know why anyone would be Ok with police acting like this. Cops have a stressful job and they have do deal with a lot of pricks but their profession isn't the only job in which they have to deal with a lot of pressure. They still need to show some judgement based on the situation they are in.

[Contra]

Ok watched it now, that cop, TOTALLY OUT OF LINE!!!!!!

He chased that girl laying into her with the nightstick, totally uncalled for. Then, dragging her back and slamming her pretty much face down in the pavement, crazy. At that point everything was under control
This guy wanted to hurt this girl and probably got off on it.

[Bob Impact]

I can't believe the force he throws her to the ground with. Please explain to me how anyone can think that's not excessive? If I was a libertarian THIS would scare me more than ANY tax.

This. Fucking this. What a piece of garbage.

[sailor]

Looks like she also put her hands behind her back before he maced her.

[KnoxHarrington]

I don't know. I think there are some people in this thread that seem to be OK with it.

HOW DARE YOU INSULT HERO COPS 9/11 USA USA USA

[brettmojo]

If you act like that in public I couldn't care less what happens to you. Fucking animals. Drink at fucking home. Subject your own fucking family and friends to your asshole behavior and let them deal with it.

Fuck that cop too, but fuck those two as well.

[hush]

You gotta love people who think they can tell someone else how to do their job, especially a job as dangerous as a police officer's.

You do not touch a police officer...ever! A drunk idiot who touches a police officer, is a dangerous person who poses many threats. Numerous police officers have been injured or killed in similar situations. For this very reason, along with how dangerous of an environment we ask them to work in, police officers are given discretion. Them, not us, are experts at how to use that discretion. They use discretion to survive their job, and to keep us safe.

[hush]

Looks like she also put her hands behind her back before he maced her.

Yes, because nobody has ever faked that to gain leverage!

Her chance to be treated like a civilian ended when she drunkinly touched a police officer while he was doing his job. Because at that point, she could have been reaching for his gun.

You people playing "Monday Morning QB" with a person who puts their life on the line and deals with drunken idiots, is ridiculous. You people work in safe, cushy environments. This man can die EVERY MINUTE he works his job.

[TripleSkeet]

Cop friends of mine on Facebook all said this guy should lose his job. Not only did he use excessive force with both the guy and the girl, but he maced the chick and then let her just walk around without being able to see. That right there is a big no no in police procedure. Not one of them defended this asshole.

[Rube]

The whole thing disturbs me. I won't be watching it again. I'm smarter than to let anger in voluntarily.

[StanUpshaw]

Yes, because nobody has ever faked that to gain leverage!

Her chance to be treated like a civilian ended when she drunkinly touched a police officer while he was doing his job. Because at that point, she could have been reaching for his gun.

You people playing "Monday Morning QB" with a person who puts their life on the line and deals with drunken idiots, is ridiculous. You people work in safe, cushy environments. This man can die EVERY MINUTE he works his job.

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[TripleSkeet]

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Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhahahahahah

[TripleSkeet]

You people work in safe, cushy environments. This man can die EVERY MINUTE he works his job.

So can electricians, sewer workers, firemen, fisherman, etc.

Nobodys forcing them to do it. If youre gonna take the job do it right.

[underdog]

You people playing "Monday Morning QB" with a person who puts their life on the line and deals with drunken idiots, is ridiculous. You people work in safe, cushy environments. This man can die EVERY MINUTE he works his job.

Safe, cushy environments?! Do you KNOW how much paper I have to touch each day? I'm CONSTANTLY in danger of a serious paper cut! And I'm in a warehouse with COMMON PEOPLE. These people could just go nuts and attack at anytime. I would say my job is more dangerous than some cushy, living off the government teat police officer job.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Safe, cushy environments?! Do you KNOW how much paper I have to touch each day? I'm CONSTANTLY in danger of a serious paper cut! And I'm in a warehouse with COMMON PEOPLE. These people could just go nuts and attack at anytime. I would say my job is more dangerous than some cushy, living off the government teat police officer job.

Watch out for those pesky forklift operators

http://www.martinsforklift.com/forklift%20safety.htm

[foodcourtdruide]

Watch out for those pesky forklift operators

http://www.martinsforklift.com/forklift%20safety.htm

I think forklift operators should be allowed to beat people. THEY CAN DIE AT ANY MOMENT!!!!

[foodcourtdruide]

Yes, because nobody has ever faked that to gain leverage!

Her chance to be treated like a civilian ended when she drunkinly touched a police officer while he was doing his job. Because at that point, she could have been reaching for his gun.

You people playing "Monday Morning QB" with a person who puts their life on the line and deals with drunken idiots, is ridiculous. You people work in safe, cushy environments. This man can die EVERY MINUTE he works his job.

In Star Wars, whose side were you on, the empire or the rebellion?

I agree that he could use force when he came near her, however, he literally chased her away beating her with his baton, then ran over to get her and FACE PLANTED her when she was CLEARLY no longer a threat.

Then again, USAUSAUSAUSA!!!

EDIT: ALSO, let's not forget he was beating a man who clearly had his hands in the air and was laying on the ground. I definitely feel sympathy for how difficult of a job it is to be a police officer, and how there is always a looming threat. However, I don't want government officials to be able to beat people when they are having a bad day.

[Syd]

You gotta love people who think they can tell someone else how to do their job, especially a job as dangerous as a police officer's.

You do not touch a police officer...ever! A drunk idiot who touches a police officer, is a dangerous person who poses many threats. Numerous police officers have been injured or killed in similar situations. For this very reason, along with how dangerous of an environment we ask them to work in, police officers are given discretion. Them, not us, are experts at how to use that discretion. They use discretion to survive their job, and to keep us safe.

You don't touch a police officer, but at the same time you don't escalate a situation by taking a full swing with a weapon at someone who is prone, nor do you take a full swing at someone and then mace them. The guy powertripped like a mother fucker and everyone is lucky it's probably a broken bone at most from all that happened.

Both people are in the wrong, but the police officer's judgement is so abhorrent in this exchange that it's fucking mind boggling how you can defend their actions. I know in that situation given the crowd the cops have to immediately establish authority but I'm pretty sure you can do that without walloping on a drunk with a blackjack.

[sailor]

Safe, cushy environments?! Do you KNOW how much paper I have to touch each day? I'm CONSTANTLY in danger of a serious paper cut! And I'm in a warehouse with COMMON PEOPLE. These people could just go nuts and attack at anytime. I would say my job is more dangerous than some cushy, living off the government teat police officer job.

You forgot to mention you work with dirty foreigners.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I like how people in this thread are like "well, that's what you get for interfering!", as if it would be easy for any of them to just sit back and watch a loved one get pummeled by a storm trooper. It's not like she tried to fight the cop, it looks like she was pleading with him to stop.

I'm finally on StanUpshaw's side! Feels good!

A lot of people are saying he was hitting the guy when he had his hands up, but I didn't see that. It seemed like as soon as he got subdued on his knees, the proportionate response (in my view) stopped. I didn't see him get hit when his hands were up.

[hush]

Cop friends of mine on Facebook all said this guy should lose his job. Not only did he use excessive force with both the guy and the girl, but he maced the chick and then let her just walk around without being able to see. That right there is a big no no in police procedure. Not one of them defended this asshole. Well your "friends"(you gotta love how you have two friends who are cops, on facebook, at most...and you are using them as some sort of giant reference pool) are in the vast majority, amongst police officer's. The majority of cops would back this officer up!

[hush]

So can electricians, sewer workers, firemen, fisherman, etc.

Nobodys forcing them to do it. If youre gonna take the job do it right. Awful analogy!

Cops are called into dangerous situations, where human beings are at their most volitile and hostile. Cops are called in to protect people against imminent danger. They are shot at, punched and at risk...ALL THE TIME.

I love your last statement. I'm guessing you're not very sympathetic to our troops either.

[hush]

In Star Wars, whose side were you on, the empire or the rebellion?

I agree that he could use force when he came near her, however, he literally chased her away beating her with his baton, then ran over to get her and FACE PLANTED her when she was CLEARLY no longer a threat.

Then again, USAUSAUSAUSA!!!

EDIT: ALSO, let's not forget he was beating a man who clearly had his hands in the air and was laying on the ground. I definitely feel sympathy for how difficult of a job it is to be a police officer, and how there is always a looming threat. However, I don't want government officials to be able to beat people when they are having a bad day.



"then ran over to get her and FACE PLANTED her when she was CLEARLY no longer a threat."

You can't assume... From the moment she touched a police officer in the act of doing his job, she didn't stop being a threat.

"ALSO, let's not forget he was beating a man who clearly had his hands in the air and was laying on the ground"

That man was punching a car, not 5 seconds before the cop came. As the cop approached him, the man obviously did not obey the officer's orders. The guy did not get "beat" when he was on the ground. You just made that up.

Finally, how can you put context to this video, without the aid of the police and the criminals audio?

[hush]

Both people are in the wrong, but the police officer's judgement is so abhorrent in this exchange that it's fucking mind boggling how you can defend their actions. I know in that situation given the crowd the cops have to immediately establish authority but I'm pretty sure you can do that without walloping on a drunk with a blackjack.

Have you had to subdue a violent drunk, in the middle of a crowd, with only your partner?

Yeah, I didn't think so...

[TripleSkeet]

Well your "friends"(you gotta love how you have two friends who are cops, on facebook, at most...and you are using them as some sort of giant reference pool) are in the vast majority, amongst police officer's. The majority of cops would back this officer up!

3 Township cops, one of which has a judge for a father, 2 South Jersey Detectives and a State Trooper. All of which disagree. Yea sure they would back the cop up if they were there, thats normal. It doesnt mean they agree with his behavior. Real cops HATE shit like this. Because people see it and they lose trust and respect for the job they do. It makes all cops look bad.

And by the way, if this cop had been white and the kids black, this video would be all over every news station and people everywhere would be calling for him to be crucified.


Awful analogy!

Cops are called into dangerous situations, where human beings are at their most volitile and hostile. Cops are called in to protect people against imminent danger. They are shot at, punched and at risk...ALL THE TIME.

I love your last statement. I'm guessing you're not very sympathetic to our troops either.


Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up. Im sympathetic to them because with the job they are given the government doesnt even provide them with the appropriate material and protection to do the job. And that they keep them over there longer then they are supposed to because they are short on troops. Im sympathetic to them for that because thats just fucked up.

[Crispy123]

Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up. Im sympathetic to them because with the job they are given the government doesnt even provide them with the appropriate material and protection to do the job. And that they keep them over there longer then they are supposed to because they are short on troops. Im sympathetic to them for that because thats just fucked up.

Well said.

[Chigworthy]

You gotta love people

you gotta love how you have two friends

I love your last statement.

Love will keep us together.

[hush]

Love will keep us together. "Love is a wonderful thing"



- Michael Bolton

[hush]

3 Township cops, one of which has a judge for a father, 2 South Jersey Detectives and a State Trooper. All of which disagree. Yea sure they would back the cop up if they were there, thats normal. It doesnt mean they agree with his behavior. Real cops HATE shit like this. Because people see it and they lose trust and respect for the job they do. It makes all cops look bad.

And by the way, if this cop had been white and the kids black, this video would be all over every news station and people everywhere would be calling for him to be crucified.





Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up. Im sympathetic to them because with the job they are given the government doesnt even provide them with the appropriate material and protection to do the job. And that they keep them over there longer then they are supposed to because they are short on troops. Im sympathetic to them for that because thats just fucked up.

"And by the way, if this cop had been white and the kids black, this video would be all over every news station and people everywhere would be calling for him to be crucified."

This story has no legs...regardless of the race of the criminals. The majority of people in this country understand and respect the strenuous job police officer's have. Further proof of this, is the incident that took place in Seattle, a while back. A white officer struck a black woman. It was obviously justified(despite the efforts to convey otherwise, by the liberal shooting the video)... But in years past, it would have been turned into a major situation. But after it happened, nothing was made of it.

Through social media content and advancements in technology, people are able to witness the tragically difficult situations police officer's have to contend with on a daily basis.

You are in the vast minority!

"Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up."

The above statement shows a great lack of understanding for our troops. Our troops do not "sign up to fight". Our troops sign up to defend our country, and fight if the situation dictates it's necessary. To not be sympathetic toward young men and women who fight and die for this country, just because the very idea of fighting is a possibility prior to them enlisting, shows how entitled and spoiled people like you are.

[TripleSkeet]

"And by the way, if this cop had been white and the kids black, this video would be all over every news station and people everywhere would be calling for him to be crucified."

This story has no legs...regardless of the race of the criminals. The majority of people in this country understand and respect the strenuous job police officer's have. Further proof of this, is the incident that took place in Seattle, a while back. A white officer struck a black woman. It was obviously justified(despite the efforts to convey otherwise, by the liberal shooting the video)... But in years past, it would have been turned into a major situation. But after it happened, nothing was made of it.

Through social media content and advancements in technology, people are able to witness the tragically difficult situations police officer's have to contend with on a daily basis.

You are in the vast minority!

"Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up."

The above statement shows a great lack of understanding for our troops. Our troops do not "sign up to fight". Our troops sign up to defend our country, and fight if the situation dictates it's necessary. To not be sympathetic toward young men and women who fight and die for this country, just because the very idea of fighting is a possibility prior to them enlisting, shows how entitled and spoiled people like you are.

Youre a fucking dope.

[Crispy123]

Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up. Im sympathetic to them because with the job they are given the government doesnt even provide them with the appropriate material and protection to do the job. And that they keep them over there longer then they are supposed to because they are short on troops. Im sympathetic to them for that because thats just fucked up.



The above statement shows a great lack of understanding for our troops. Our troops do not "sign up to fight". Our troops sign up to defend our country, and fight if the situation dictates it's necessary. To not be sympathetic toward young men and women who fight and die for this country, just because the very idea of fighting is a possibility prior to them enlisting, shows how entitled and spoiled people like you are.

Oh you regressives with your mental retardation, you will never learn.

TripleSkeet got it right. They chose to sign up and fight for this country. You don't show the troops sympathy for that decision, you show them RESPECT.

[Furtherman]

"Im not sympathetic for the troops for having to go over there and fight. They werent drafted, they chose to sign up."

The above statement shows a great lack of understanding for our troops. Our troops do not "sign up to fight". Our troops sign up to defend our country, and fight if the situation dictates it's necessary. To not be sympathetic toward young men and women who fight and die for this country, just because the very idea of fighting is a possibility prior to them enlisting, shows how entitled and spoiled people like you are.

How about those troops who sign up because they dropped out of high school or are doing it for college money or really had no other opportunities to get out of a dire situation. Did all of them sign up to defend our country?

[sailor]

Hush and furtherman sitting in a tree...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

How about those troops who sign up because they dropped out of high school or are doing it for college money or really had no other opportunities to get out of a dire situation. Did all of them sign up to defend our country?

The Military allows people with a GED in but its a small percent

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/genjoin/a/asvabminimum.htm


As far as people in regards to college money/GI Bill a lot of the people in my platoon had plans to go to trade schools or go into civil service. I was a grunt. Crispy's fellow Marines might have been different since he was in the Air Wing After my enlistment was up I did the college route.

[RoseBlood]

I am sympathetic towards our troops because I would not wish to trade positions with them on my worst work day.

[spoon]

So TS speaks of the views of some officers he actually knows as an example, but Hush comes back with the more conclusive, "The majority of cops would back this officer up!" Way to prove your point that TS is incorrectly speaking for a wider pool of people based on limited references even more.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh you regressives with your mental retardation, you will never learn.

TripleSkeet got it right. They chose to sign up and fight for this country. You don't show the troops sympathy for that decision, you show them RESPECT.

BRAVO SIR!!!!


http://salute.colostate.edu/Data/Sites/2/images/salute-flag.jpg

[Crispy123]

How about those troops who sign up because they dropped out of high school or are doing it for college money or really had no other opportunities to get out of a dire situation. Did all of them sign up to defend our country?

Maybe some came into the military like that but you certainly don't have to stay. There are ways out and especially in the Corps they don't want you if that is your mentality, that kind of thinking is a liability in warfighting.

Conscientious Objectors (http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/130006p.pdf)

[Furtherman]

Maybe some came into the military like that but you certainly don't have to stay. There are ways out and especially in the Corps they don't want you if that is your mentality, that kind of thinking is a liability in warfighting.

Conscientious Objectors (http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/130006p.pdf)

I'm aware of that... I'm just saying that not every person signs up for the army to defend our country as the sole reason... there can be many reasons. They deserve all the respect, but let's not assume what their reasons were.

[Crispy123]

I'm aware of that... I'm just saying that not every person signs up for the army to defend our country as the sole reason... there can be many reasons. They deserve all the respect, but let's not assume what their reasons were.

Fair enough and recruiters aren't exactly the most scrupulous bunch but if they made it through boot camp then they know what they are in for. Even the paper pushers and the cooks are defending the country just by doing their jobs even if they aren't sending bullets down range.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fair enough and recruiters aren't exactly the most scrupulous bunch but if they made it through boot camp then they know what they are in for. Even the paper pushers and the cooks are defending the country just by doing their jobs even if they aren't sending bullets down range.

Bumper sticker warning.


Every Marine is a Rifleman!!!!!

I know you are aware of that, however I wanted to let the people on this board who were not Marines know that every year Marines no matter if they are a rifleman or Pilot has to qualify on the range. I think the quals have changed but when I was in '91-'95 it was from 200 300 and 500 Yards away respectively. I hated the standing 200Yd position

Shot expert every year except for 95 , my 2nd time on Okinawa, fucking rain on qual day got me a 219 missed expert by a point :wallbash:

Out of curiosity anyone on this board a member of any other branch? Was there weapons qual every year for the Army, AF or Navy ?

[Crispy123]

Bumper sticker warning.


Every Marine is a Rifleman!!!!!

I know you are aware of that, however I wanted to let the people on this board who were not Marines know that every year Marines no matter if they are a rifleman or Pilot has to qualify on the range. I think the quals have changed but when I was in '91-'95 it was from 200 300 and 500 Yards away respectively. I hated the standing 200Yd position

Shot expert every year except for 95 , my 2nd time on Okinawa, fucking rain on qual day got me a 219 missed expert by a point :wallbash:

Out of curiosity anyone on this board a member of any other branch? Was there weapons qual every year for the Army, AF or Navy ?


I got range high for the pistol in 2006 at Cherry Point. I know for sure that AJ, Scottin NJ, Rooster, and Sergeant are former military. There are a lot more but I am a stoner and my memory is for shit!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I got range high for the pistol in 2006 at Cherry Point. I know for sure that AJ, Scottin NJ, Rooster, and Sergeant are former military. There are a lot more but I am a stoner and my memory is for shit!


Pistol range was good times. Didn't have to worry about doing pit duty and carrying all the extra gear

I felt sorry for the marines who were marksmen with the rifle and pistol. Big and small pizza boxes

[underdog]

I got range high for the pistol in 2006 at Cherry Point. I know for sure that AJ, Scottin NJ, Rooster, and Sergeant are former military. There are a lot more but I am a stoner and my memory is for shit!

Is AJ former military? I thought he was just a suit that put people in harm's way.

[Crispy123]

Is AJ former military? I thought he was just a suit that put people in harm's way.

I am fairly certain he was a squid. I wouldn't bet a testicle on it or anything but...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is AJ former military? I thought he was just a suit that put people in harm's way.

I think AJ was former navy

[A.J.]

I got range high for the pistol in 2006 at Cherry Point. I know for sure that AJ, Scottin NJ, Rooster, and Sergeant are former military. There are a lot more but I am a stoner and my memory is for shit!

Is AJ former military? I thought he was just a suit that put people in harm's way.

I buy ships that kill terrorists and protect the warfighter.

I am fairly certain he was a squid. I wouldn't bet a testicle on it or anything but...

I think AJ was former navy

Nope, never former military. I'm currently a Navy contractor but going to some places overseas requires me to be weapons qualified. I'm Glock qualified (I think -- it may have lapsed).

[Furtherman]

Nope, never former military.

I can't believe you made me salute you.

[Chigworthy]

You are in the vast minority!

I consider this a clue.

[Misteriosa]

I consider this a clue.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dUZ1E5OxYMI/SgoOS8KNlcI/AAAAAAAABXo/CG1yPp_5Uwo/s320/Untitled-1.gif

[A.J.]

I can't believe you made me salute you.

And it was a Nazi one at that!

[Crispy123]

I can't believe you made me salute you.

By salute do you mean blow? Cause that's hot!

[hush]

Why must we qualify the motives of a young person who enlists their services to defend our country? They all deserve our respect. Once war is involved, to a degree, it's human nature to be sympathetic toward their situation.

It is misinformed to believe that these young men and women "sign up to fight". They sign up to defend our country, with the understanding that IF war has to happen, they will be taking part in it. Believe me, many of our troops would rather not fight... But they still do it so that we can have silly conversations on a message boad, in the safety of our own homes.

I suggest some of you truly reflect on the difficulty both our troops and police officer's deal with on a daily basis. Some of you have gotten very spoiled!

[Furtherman]

Settle down francis, no one here is questioning respect for our troops. No one is acting spoiled.

[hush]

So TS speaks of the views of some officers he actually knows as an example, but Hush comes back with the more conclusive, "The majority of cops would back this officer up!" Way to prove your point that TS is incorrectly speaking for a wider pool of people based on limited references even more. Ok, I'll elaborate. Then I'll wait for your response. Deal?

TS spoke on behalf of like 4 people...

I am speaking on behalf of many more... and facebook isn't involved.

My brother, uncle, cousin and close friends are cops. Not just them, but then there's the majority of their district. This was discussed amongst the entire units. So of an entire police department, in one of the biggest cities in this country, I was informed that less than a handfull of guys had a problem with what the cop did.

The consensus: Once a violent, drunk person touches a cop, especially in the act of doing his job, especially in a crowd environment where he's only backed up by one other cop, he did what he had to do.

[hush]

Settle down francis, no one here is questioning respect for our troops. No one is acting spoiled. Yeah, that's not true. Go back and read this thread.

[hush]

How about those troops who sign up because they dropped out of high school or are doing it for college money or really had no other opportunities to get out of a dire situation. Did all of them sign up to defend our country?

Like this guy. Oh, it's you!

And as if these troops you speak of, a very small portion of our troops, by the way, deserve any less respect.

And yes, even with their "dire" situation... They still signed up to defend this country!

[Furtherman]

No, you're just looking to yell at people who don't see your personal view about cops. No one is questioning respect for our troops. You've already used the "entitled and spoiled" line, which is just right wing bullshit buzzwords that isn't true to label the majority of Americans. And I'm on the cop's side on this one. I understand the danger he's in every day. But I'm not going to fault people who see it as excessive or unnecessary force.

[Furtherman]

Like this guy. Oh, it's you!

And as if these troops you speak of, a very small portion of our troops, by the way, deserve any less respect.

And yes, even with their "dire" situation... They still signed up to defend this country!

Show me where that mentions any notion of not respecting the troops.

Every man and woman have their own reason for signing up. Defending this country is what they're signing up for, but don't begin to think that's their only reason.

[Crispy123]

Show me where that mentions any notion of not respecting the troops.

Every man and woman have their own reason for signing up. Defending this country is what they're signing up for, but don't begin to think that's their only reason.

To be fair, it must be frustrating as a regressive to come to a place where most people like progress and liberty for all.

You can't have a logical discussion with these people. This guy came in with a condescending attitude towards the troops and wants to turn that on others. Much like he wants to bash people who think the role of PEACE OFFICERS, doesn't jive with his "regressive" view.

Was the officer justified? Hard to tell, we only have a snippet from a cell phone of the entire situation but it sure doesn't look good.

Is there reason to be sympathetic towards the troops? Sure, TS & RoseBlood gave a few legitimate ones.

But a rational discussion with hush/bends won't happen.

[Furtherman]

You're right about that.

[TripleSkeet]

Like this guy. Oh, it's you!

And as if these troops you speak of, a very small portion of our troops, by the way, deserve any less respect.

And yes, even with their "dire" situation... They still signed up to defend this country!

Joining the army doesnt make you a hero. I know plenty of jerkoffs that joined the military because they treated school like a joke and that point in their lives it was either that or work at McDonalds forever.

Do I respect the fact that they made that decision while knowing the risks that were involved? Sure I do. Do I sympathize with them? Fuck no. Maybe if they had actually finished school instead of leaving to get high every fucking day like fucking losers they wouldnt have been put in a position like that.

I think you dont get that theres a difference between sympathy and respect. I respect military personell because of the risk involved with their job. But unlike the 60s, nobody forced them to be there. They knew the risk before signing up, so like I said before, they dont get my sympathy for that, just for the fact that the country they fight so hard to protect doesnt give a fuck enough about them to equip them with the proper protection.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Joining the army doesnt make you a hero. .

Damn right!! Army bootcamp is a cakewalk compared to Parris Island!!!!!



Agreed on all points

[hush]

Joining the army doesnt make you a hero. I know plenty of jerkoffs that joined the military because they treated school like a joke and that point in their lives it was either that or work at McDonalds forever.

Do I respect the fact that they made that decision while knowing the risks that were involved? Sure I do. Do I sympathize with them? Fuck no. Maybe if they had actually finished school instead of leaving to get high every fucking day like fucking losers they wouldnt have been put in a position like that.

I think you dont get that theres a difference between sympathy and respect. I respect military personell because of the risk involved with their job. But unlike the 60s, nobody forced them to be there. They knew the risk before signing up, so like I said before, they dont get my sympathy for that, just for the fact that the country they fight so hard to protect doesnt give a fuck enough about them to equip them with the proper protection. "Maybe if they had actually finished school instead of leaving to get high every fucking day like fucking losers they wouldnt have been put in a position like that."

I assume that you apply this logic to medicaid, food stamps and the flat tax?

"I think you dont get that theres a difference between sympathy and respect. I respect military personell because of the risk involved with their job. But unlike the 60s, nobody forced them to be there. They knew the risk before signing up, so like I said before, they dont get my sympathy for that, just for the fact that the country they fight so hard to protect doesnt give a fuck enough about them to equip them with the proper protection."

I don't think you understand that knowing the risks involved, doesn't make the risk or the respect levels they deserve, diminish. For that very fact alone, knowing that the possibility of war exists, yet still signing up, means they deserve more credit for what they do. And I hate to break it to people like you, but many of our troops join the military out of a great love and respect for our country. Those men and women who sign up, who you have reduced to nothing, deserve respect the moment they sign up... I don't care what their motives are. They could have turned to crime... They could have leached off of someone... So stop making them sound so awful.

People like you make me sick. Now put your feet up, type on a computer and continue to be spoiled!

[hush]

To be fair, it must be frustrating as a regressive to come to a place where most people like progress and liberty for all.

You can't have a logical discussion with these people. This guy came in with a condescending attitude towards the troops and wants to turn that on others. Much like he wants to bash people who think the role of PEACE OFFICERS, doesn't jive with his "regressive" view.

Was the officer justified? Hard to tell, we only have a snippet from a cell phone of the entire situation but it sure doesn't look good.

Is there reason to be sympathetic towards the troops? Sure, TS & RoseBlood gave a few legitimate ones.

But a rational discussion with hush/bends won't happen. "To be fair, it must be frustrating as a regressive to come to a place where most people like progress and liberty for all."

This about sums you up.

Making statements like this may bring you back high fives from your friends... But the majority of people would call you out for such a douchey statement.

[jonyrotn]

He should have to pay royalties to Slick Rick & Doug E Fresh for the way he "slammed that bitch on the hard concrete"..

[jonyrotn]

The consensus: Once a violent, drunk person touches a cop, especially in the act of doing his job, especially in a crowd environment where he's only backed up by one other cop, he did what he had to do.

You're dead wrong!
That cop was never in danger..Not for one second..
He had the total control over both parties from the moment he sneak attacked the male.. Then when the female protests about how her boyfriend is being treated, which is her right, he beat the shit out of her too.. And then he lets her walk away, which is a big no-no.. Anytime you wanna justify giving somebody a wooden shampoo, you better make sure you exercise custody and control over that person and communicate to them that they are not free to go..You can't just beat someone with a weapon then let them wonder off..That's what criminals do..This cop is a cancer and should get locked up for this shit..This was totally uncalled for..I'm sure his friends and family are real proud..

[underdog]

You're dead wrong!
That cop was never in danger..Not for one second..
He had the total control over both parties from the moment he sneak attacked the male.. Then when the female protests about how her boyfriend is being treated, which is her right, he beat the shit out of her too.. And then he lets her walk away, which is a big no-no.. Anytime you wanna justify giving somebody a wooden shampoo, you better make sure you exercise custody and control over that person and communicate to them that they are not free to go..You can't just beat someone with a weapon then let them wonder off..That's what criminals do..This cop is a cancer and should get locked up for this shit..This was totally uncalled for..I'm sure his friends and family are real proud..

Oh, what do you know?

[A.J.]

Oh, what do you know?

:laugh:

[Crispy_Mobile]

"To be fair, it must be frustrating as a regressive to come to a place where most people like progress and liberty for all."This about sums you up.
Wow! The last thing I expected from YOU was a compliment, but thank you.

[Misteriosa]

He should have to pay royalties to Slick Rick & Doug E Fresh for the way he "slammed that bitch on the hard concrete"..

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love this song :happy:

edit: and it took your ass long enough to chime in on this thread... :dry:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zM0KAh5w7Rs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

love this song :happy:

edit: and it took your ass long enough to chime in on this thread... :dry:

Classic!!!!


I cringe whenever I hear Souljah Boy or any of the various Li'l rappers

[hush]

You're dead wrong!
That cop was never in danger..Not for one second..
He had the total control over both parties from the moment he sneak attacked the male.. Then when the female protests about how her boyfriend is being treated, which is her right, he beat the shit out of her too.. And then he lets her walk away, which is a big no-no.. Anytime you wanna justify giving somebody a wooden shampoo, you better make sure you exercise custody and control over that person and communicate to them that they are not free to go..You can't just beat someone with a weapon then let them wonder off..That's what criminals do..This cop is a cancer and should get locked up for this shit..This was totally uncalled for..I'm sure his friends and family are real proud..

"That cop was never in danger..Not for one second..
He had the total control over both parties from the moment he sneak attacked the male.."

The cop faced multiple dangers...

1) Drunken crowd
2) Having no backup, besides his partner
3) Drunken guy who just got done punching a car
4) Female touching him while he was doing his job. The woman could have been reaching for his gun for all he knew. YOU DO NOT TOUCH A POLICE OFFICER...EVER.

"and communicate to them that they are not free to go.."

How do you know what was or wasn't communicated? We couldn't hear what was being said.

"Then when the female protests about how her boyfriend is being treated, which is her right"

That's just it... It's NOT her right. If she wants to file a complain afterwards, fine. But it's not her right to touch a police officer, especially while he's dealing with a violent, drunk person.

[foodcourtdruide]

The consensus: Once a violent, drunk person touches a cop, especially in the act of doing his job, especially in a crowd environment where he's only backed up by one other cop, he did what he had to do.

LOL, this is actually not the consensus on this board. Nearly everyone completely disagrees with you.

[foodcourtdruide]

"That cop was never in danger..Not for one second..
He had the total control over both parties from the moment he sneak attacked the male.."

The cop faced multiple dangers...

1) Drunken crowd
2) Having no backup, besides his partner
3) Drunken guy who just got done punching a car
4) Female touching him while he was doing his job. The woman could have been reaching for his gun for all he knew. YOU DO NOT TOUCH A POLICE OFFICER...EVER.

"and communicate to them that they are not free to go.."

How do you know what was or wasn't communicated? We couldn't hear what was being said.

"Then when the female protests about how her boyfriend is being treated, which is her right"

That's just it... It's NOT her right. If she wants to file a complain afterwards, fine. But it's not her right to touch a police officer, especially while he's dealing with a violent, drunk person.

So, to protect himself he had to chase her as she was running away with his baton? I understand. Then, while she's wandering around BLINDED was forced to FACE PLANT her into the concrete? Give me a break.

The cop himself was breaking the law. He was beating a man who was laying on the ground.

[Misteriosa]

hush, please tell jony what other police procedures that he is wrong on

:popcorn:

[A.J.]

I think hush works for IAB.

[jonyrotn]

"That cop was never in danger..Not for one second..
He had the total control over both parties from the moment he sneak attacked the male.."

The cop faced multiple dangers...

1) Drunken crowd
2) Having no backup, besides his partner
3) Drunken guy who just got done punching a car
4) Female touching him while he was doing his job. The woman could have been reaching for his gun for all he knew. YOU DO NOT TOUCH A POLICE OFFICER...EVER.

"and communicate to them that they are not free to go.."

How do you know what was or wasn't communicated? We couldn't hear what was being said.

"Then when the female protests about how her boyfriend is being treated, which is her right"

That's just it... It's NOT her right. If she wants to file a complain afterwards, fine. But it's not her right to touch a police officer, especially while he's dealing with a violent, drunk person.
I'm sorry Hush, but I refuse to debate these issues with you while you're blowing your nose with what's left of the Constitution...Sheep to the slaughter..

[TripleSkeet]

"Maybe if they had actually finished school instead of leaving to get high every fucking day like fucking losers they wouldnt have been put in a position like that."

I assume that you apply this logic to medicaid, food stamps and the flat tax?

"I think you dont get that theres a difference between sympathy and respect. I respect military personell because of the risk involved with their job. But unlike the 60s, nobody forced them to be there. They knew the risk before signing up, so like I said before, they dont get my sympathy for that, just for the fact that the country they fight so hard to protect doesnt give a fuck enough about them to equip them with the proper protection."

I don't think you understand that knowing the risks involved, doesn't make the risk or the respect levels they deserve, diminish. For that very fact alone, knowing that the possibility of war exists, yet still signing up, means they deserve more credit for what they do. And I hate to break it to people like you, but many of our troops join the military out of a great love and respect for our country. Those men and women who sign up, who you have reduced to nothing, deserve respect the moment they sign up... I don't care what their motives are. They could have turned to crime... They could have leached off of someone... So stop making them sound so awful.

People like you make me sick. Now put your feet up, type on a computer and continue to be spoiled!

Again, proving my point that youre a fucking moron.

Do you even read what I wrote or just start highlighting and hope that you guess the point right?

I said I respect these guys for joing up and knowing the risks, but no, I dont sympathize with them for how fucking hard boot camp is, or how they have to sleep in tents in the dessert or how they have to go on military mission to places all over the Earth. YOU JOINED THE FUCKING MILITARY. What the fuck did you think you were gonna do???? Im supposed to feel sorry for you because the job you signed up for is hard?

Like I said, I sympathize because they should have the proper equipment and they are fighting for a government that really doesnt give a shit about them enough to give the proper safety equipment. But thats all.

Thats like feeling sorry for a cop because he has to work in a dangerous neighborhood. Or feeling sorry for firement because fires are dangerous. Im not gonna feel sorry for them. If the jobs are so rough, quit and go bag groceries at a safe Shop Rite or something. But I respect them for NOT leaving. For staying on despite the dangers. I feel sorry for people that dont know what they are getting into. Not for people that do know but do it anyway.

Fucking dope.

[TripleSkeet]

I think hush works for IAB.

Nah if he was IAB hed be against the cop. Not sucking his ballbag for walking around beating the fuck out of kids with his nightstick like he was the new Big Bossman.

[Contra]

So can I say hush is trolling in this thread yet? Besides highlighting other people's points and then writing something that has absolutely nothing to do with what he is pointing out, and having a very entitled attitude I really don't see any actual points being made. I mean if he wants to argue with people that have actual law enforcement experience on this board then I feel his point is mute.

Although this thread might have died out if not for his trolling, so I don't know whether to love him or hate him.

[Chigworthy]

So can I say hush is trolling in this thread yet? Besides highlighting other people's points and then writing something that has absolutely nothing to do with what he is pointing out, and having a very entitled attitude I really don't see any actual points being made. I mean if he wants to argue with people that have actual law enforcement experience on this board then I feel his point is mute.

Although this thread might have died out if not for his trolling, so I don't know whether to love him or hate him.

See tags

[hush]

LOL, this is actually not the consensus on this board. Nearly everyone completely disagrees with you.

Thanks for being able to follow along!

The "consensus" was in regards to the officers in reference.

[hush]

So can I say hush is trolling in this thread yet? Besides highlighting other people's points and then writing something that has absolutely nothing to do with what he is pointing out, and having a very entitled attitude I really don't see any actual points being made. I mean if he wants to argue with people that have actual law enforcement experience on this board then I feel his point is mute.

Although this thread might have died out if not for his trolling, so I don't know whether to love him or hate him. I love these posters!

These are the "I disagree, but I have to resort to calling names because I am unable to come up with a viable counter point" posters.

[hush]

hush, please tell jony what other police procedures that he is wrong on

:popcorn: No problem.

Please continue eating on trains, animal.

[Contra]

I love these posters!

These are the "I disagree, but I have to resort to calling names because I am unable to come up with a viable counter point" posters.

As soon as you make a point to argue that hasn't already been destroyed on multiple occasions where you then highlight that counter point and spout some crazy arguement that has nothing to do with what's being discussed ...


I'd be happy to debate with you

[Chigworthy]

I love a good trolling!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Again, proving my point that youre a fucking moron.

Do you even read what I wrote or just start highlighting and hope that you guess the point right?

I said I respect these guys for joing up and knowing the risks, but no, I dont sympathize with them for how fucking hard boot camp is, or how they have to sleep in tents in the dessert or how they have to go on military mission to places all over the Earth. YOU JOINED THE FUCKING MILITARY. What the fuck did you think you were gonna do???? Im supposed to feel sorry for you because the job you signed up for is hard?

Like I said, I sympathize because they should have the proper equipment and they are fighting for a government that really doesnt give a shit about them enough to give the proper safety equipment. But thats all.

Thats like feeling sorry for a cop because he has to work in a dangerous neighborhood. Or feeling sorry for firement because fires are dangerous. Im not gonna feel sorry for them. If the jobs are so rough, quit and go bag groceries at a safe Shop Rite or something. But I respect them for NOT leaving. For staying on despite the dangers. I feel sorry for people that dont know what they are getting into. Not for people that do know but do it anyway.

Fucking dope.

Heres my take from being in the military

We appreciate the thanks and respect from people who never served, however in my opinion the constant fawning gets a bit too much. We are satisfied with a simple thank you.


John Basilone who was awarded the MOH in the S. Pacific got huge accolades, parades, celebrity status but all he wanted to do was to be back with his men. I still believe that if that were the case today and instances like this, they feel that they should be fighting alongside their brothers in arms


Most of us think that we are just doing our job. I will submit that there are some people who served who think society owes them a favor. Some cops are like that. Its like a superiority thing to them.

[TripleSkeet]

Heres my take from being in the military

We appreciate the thanks and respect from people who never served, however in my opinion the constant fawning gets a bit too much. We are satisfied with a simple thank you.


John Basilone who was awarded the MOH in the S. Pacific got huge accolades, parades, celebrity status but all he wanted to do was to be back with his men. I still believe that if that were the case today and instances like this, they feel that they should be fighting alongside their brothers in arms


Most of us think that we are just doing our job. I will submit that there are some people who served who think society owes them a favor. Some cops are like that. Its like a superiority thing to them.

Honestly, Ive never met a military man who actually EXPECTED all kinds of high praise because of what he did.

I think thats what annoys me most. Its other people that have never served screaming how everyone should bow down to the soldiers and be eternally grateful for all of them. It really gets annoying. Kinda like the white guy that screams about racism if another guy makes a black joke, while the black guy is standing there laughing at it unoffended.

[Misteriosa]

No problem.

Please continue eating on trains, animal.

i havent called YOU any names, judgey judgerson http://justadventure.com/yabb/Smilies/shaking_head.gif

[Judge Smails]

This guy takes his beating like a champ. USA! USA! USA!

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[Snacks]

This guy takes his beating like a champ. USA! USA! USA!

http://<IFRAME title="YouTube video player" height=390 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HAVoU_UXgQI" frameBorder=0 width=640 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HAVoU_UXgQI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

love this guy!

[TripleSkeet]

This guy takes his beating like a champ. USA! USA! USA!

http://<IFRAME title="YouTube video player" height=390 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HAVoU_UXgQI" frameBorder=0 width=640 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HAVoU_UXgQI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

If that were a Phillies game it wouldve been on every sports telecast across the country for at least 48 hours.

[jennysmurf]

i havent called YOU any names, judgey judgerson http://justadventure.com/yabb/Smilies/shaking_head.gif

http://mememachine.viralvideochart.com/storage/leave-britney-alone.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1288790550287

Leave Misti alone! Just leave her alone!

[spoon]

No problem.

Please continue eating on trains, animal.

i havent called YOU any names, judgey judgerson http://justadventure.com/yabb/Smilies/shaking_head.gif

I am, Hush is nothing short of a dick. Discussion complete.

:furious:

[Judge Smails]

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

Police can just trample over the constitution



http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w214.html


Hopefully Dopenik gets recalled


http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swat-team-defends-shooting-iraq-marine-veteran/story?id=13640112


"A Tucson, Ariz., SWAT team defends shooting an Iraq War veteran 60 times during a drug raid, although it declines to say whether it found any drugs in the house and has had to retract its claim that the veteran shot first. "

[StanUpshaw]

Cop Guns Down 8th Grader Hiding in a Shed (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/09/13/39729.htm)

[Dude!]

Cop Guns Down 8th Grader Hiding in a Shed (http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/09/13/39729.htm)

they couldn't fire officer "Alvarado"
despite many prior violations
because he was a protected minority

you get what you sow...

[cougarjake13]

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6oE8LKIRL9U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

she lokks kinda hot

havent watched the vid yet


just from screen cap

[brettmojo]

she lokks kinda hot

havent watched the vid yet


just from screen cap
If you live a freshman 15...

[JimBeam]

she lokks kinda hot

havent watched the vid yet


just from screen cap

Ahhhh, I have no issue here.

Obvioulsy the male and female fatty were up to no good, seemingly the aggresors in the attack on the people in the car, so they deserved to be treated as hostiles.

Just because you're young, white and stupid doesn't mean you don't deserve a beating now and again.

[Gutter]

she took a face plant....no biggie. she'll be scuffed up a bit, but its not like the cop beat her down. how many time he try to get her to comply without result? its a little aggressive, but i wouldn't call that "brutality".

[JimBeam]

Exactly.

Do as you're f-ing told and there's no problem.

[StanUpshaw]

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[Snacks]

yeah thats really fucking humane! Why did he have to shoot the dog? Even if the dog deserved to be put down why wasnt that decision made by the vet in the vet office and with a needle?

[brettmojo]

Not watching.

[Gutter]

yeah thats really fucking humane! Why did he have to shoot the dog? Even if the dog deserved to be put down why wasnt that decision made by the vet in the vet office and with a needle?

I will never understand the policemen's mentality of dealing with any animal. its basically, "Well, if its not where its supposed to be, we're just gonna shoot it". Pertains to all animals.

[StanUpshaw]

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[disneyspy]

If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

if i get hammered,some chick is gettin nailed

[jennysmurf]

Not watching.

Me neither.

[DJEvelEd]

Why is the camera man still walking upright? Aren't the police trained to go after the cameras first?

A well placed laser light into the camera lens will fuck up the camera mans day. (Or a well placed night stick to the kneecap)

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/V1E9i.jpg

[TripleSkeet]

http://i.imgur.com/V1E9i.jpg

LMAO. Such a random picture.

[underdog]

http://i.imgur.com/V1E9i.jpg

any background on this?

[Furtherman]

any background on this?

There was a mosquito on her face and that in a can of OFF he's spraying?

[Dude!]

no, it's deodorant

[A.J.]

any background on this?

Selma march reenactors?

[StanUpshaw]

any background on this?

http://www.policebrutality.info/2011/04/police-officer-pepper-spray-women-and-children.html

It's Brazil...but still...

[Furtherman]

http://www.policebrutality.info/2011/04/police-officer-pepper-spray-women-and-children.html

It's Brazil...but still...

What a crap site. I guess it would be better if there were no cops. We can police ourselves. And yea, that's Brazil, where there is a different culture on life. In other countries they'd be shot. You can't compare it to America.

[StanUpshaw]

I guarantee the police, as a whole, have caused far more misery than they have prevented.

[Furtherman]

I guarantee the police, as a whole, have caused far more misery than they have prevented.

Spoken like a true "I had a bad experience with cops" person.

[Dude!]

I guarantee the police, as a whole, have caused far more misery than they have prevented.

it's not their job to
prevent misery

we generally don't believe in
'prior restraint'

it's their job to intercede
where misery has already occurred
and on that score, they generally do well

[underdog]

Spoken like a true "I had a bad experience with cops" person.

I've never had a bad experience with cops, but I know that authority usually attracts dickbags.

[Furtherman]

I've never had a bad experience with cops, but I know that authority usually attracts dickbags.

There are dickbags in every profession. Power corrupts, but that's not the majority of cops, who do more public service than dealing with crime.

[Fishnuts]

Being a pit wasn't helping him. Seemed like such a sweet dog too. wasn't fighting the restraints, just layed down. I wonder if some cities with no animal control let cops kill stray dogs. Seems like he recorded it like that on purpose because he came right back and turned it off after shooting him. Looks like Detroit.

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/zbkNP.jpg

[jennysmurf]

http://i.imgur.com/zbkNP.jpg

I'm sure there are two sides to this story...:dry:

[JimBeam]

I guarantee the police, as a whole, have caused far more misery than they have prevented.

Tell that to the people who get their possesions back or that are protected from scumbags.

Tell that to the people that have had a loved one murdered and eventually saw somebody brought to justice for it.

But I guess in your world the bad guys would turn themselves in if there were no police.

[StanUpshaw]

Tell that to the people who get their possesions back or that are protected from scumbags.

Tell that to the people that have had a loved one murdered and eventually saw somebody brought to justice for it.

But I guess in your world the bad guys would turn themselves in if there were no police.

Why would I tell that to them? I'm not going to expect someone who's been struck by lightning to have a realistic outlook on the probability of lightning strikes. That's just silly.

[JimBeam]

So if i get your analogy you think police misconduct happens more often than people's stolen goods are recovered ?

And that if your lucky to have had your stuff returned you're unlikely to see that somebody down the street is being beated by police is the real issue ?

[Snacks]

So if i get your analogy you think police misconduct happens more often than people's stolen goods are recovered ?

And that if your lucky to have had your stuff returned you're unlikely to see that somebody down the street is being beated by police is the real issue ?

I can answer this. YES!

[StanUpshaw]

So if i get your analogy you think police misconduct happens more often than people's stolen goods are recovered ?

And that if your lucky to have had your stuff returned you're unlikely to see that somebody down the street is being beated by police is the real issue ?

I'm not limiting it to misconduct. I'm including all the misery they're causing by enforcing the law and the culture of intimidation. How many millions are in jail for victimless crime? How many more criminals are they spawning by breaking up families? What would the murder rate be if there were no drug laws?

If there was a way to add up both sides of the equation, I think it would be clear that the cure has been worse than the disease.

[Snacks]

I'm not limiting it to misconduct. I'm including all the misery they're causing by enforcing the law and the culture of intimidation. How many millions are in jail for victimless crime? How many more criminals are they spawning by breaking up families? What would the murder rate be if there were no drug laws?

If there was a way to add up both sides of the equation, I think it would be clear that the cure has been worse than the disease.

How about the daily abusing of their power? Every day police use that badge and power to do something that they shouldnt do, use their badge to benefit them, get them out of tickets or trouble or do something they would normally arrest, ticket or harass someone else for doing?

Its not like this is made up or doesnt happen. The problem is it happens more then it should!

[JimBeam]

You think people are only murdered over drugs ? Really ?

Yes without police and drug laws we'd have a perfect society.

We could all ride our unicorns to work and we'd get paid in jelly beans.

And the police are breaking up families ????

Are you kidding me ?

So all the people you know where the father is useless and no longer in the picture are due to police intimidation and drug laws ?

Antonio Cromartie has 8 kids w/ 7 women or something so I guess it's drugs and police brutality that are blamed for the that.

[StanUpshaw]

Look! Up in the sky!

It's False Dichotomy Man!

[underdog]

So if i get your analogy you think police misconduct happens more often than people's stolen goods are recovered ?

And that if your lucky to have had your stuff returned you're unlikely to see that somebody down the street is being beated by police is the real issue ?

How many stolen goods are actually recovered?

[Snacks]

How many stolen goods are actually recovered?

and a lot that does get recovered does get returned it gets sold at auction (or kept by the cops themselves)

[StanUpshaw]

How many stolen goods are actually recovered?

I guarantee it's less than the billions of dollars in plunder they amass each year under the tyrannical asset forfeiture laws:

http://i.imgur.com/v85GK.png
www.albany.edu/sourcebook/pdf/t4452010.pdf

[StanUpshaw]

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Jry92dhOtaw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Snacks]

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Jry92dhOtaw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

its a fucking cow, why couldnt handle this differently?

[A.J.]

Don't kid yourself Snacks. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yup lets overreact over everything even something as petty as this. Good job cops way to keep these people off the streets

http://news.yahoo.com/pregnant-mom-says-sandwich-arrest-horrifying-214407004.html

[CountryBob]

Don't kid yourself Snacks. If a cow ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about!

Haha - I liked how she just asked "they didnt shoot it did they?" and the cop fucking discharges again!

See what she would think if that cow jumped in front of the minivan that her mom was driving while her kids are in the back and they total the van and some are killed becasue they werent wearing seat belts.

She would wish that cow had its head blown off.

Also, that cow was to end up murdered soon anyway... because it is out of sight it is OK

[StanUpshaw]

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/buovLQ9qyWQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm so conflicted with these videos of cops whomping on Occupiers. I switch from "KILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS" to "NO, KILL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS" in a heartbeat.

I think it's the chanting. I fucking hate chanting.

[Dude!]

I'm so conflicted with these videos of cops whomping on Occupiers.

i'm not conflicted...
i wish they'd throw
every one of those kids
into a shower with Sandusky

[JimBeam]

After watching that shit at Penn St last night I see no reason why, once a rock/bottle/anything, is thrown at a police office, an act of aggression, that should not be allowed to just start basing skulls.

You knock out the teeth of a few dozen people and you see how quickly the others fall into line.

Now obviously you don't wanna do this w/ those peacefully preotesting. but again once there's an act of violence all bets should be off.

[Gutter]

So now the kids protesting this are child molesters too. great. Lets just cut to the chase and call anyone who ever even visited Penn State a pedophile.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem right? kill em all and let God sort it out. Loving the mentality people have towards this thing.

[Furtherman]

So now the kids protesting this are child molesters too. great. Lets just cut to the chase and call anyone who ever even visited Penn State a pedophile.

You ever been there?

[Gutter]

You ever been there?

Only once in 1998.

[Furtherman]

Only once in 1998.

You fuckin' sicko. Stay away from my kids!!!

[Gutter]

You fuckin' sicko. Stay away from my kids!!!

hahaha.....you don't have any!!! wait......are they from.....THE FUUUUTURE?!?!

[Furtherman]

hahaha.....you don't have any!!! wait......are they from.....THE FUUUUTURE?!?!

No, I got them from this white haired ex-football coach. What was his name? Hmmm..

[Gutter]

No, I got them from this white haired ex-football coach. What was his name? Hmmm..

dunno....nobody seems to know his name or actually care about what he did, so lets just forget him and talk about how horrible Paterno and everyone else is.

[sailor]

kill em all and let God sort it out.

Damn, now I miss when Metallica didn't suck. Thanks!

[Furtherman]

dunno....nobody seems to know his name or actually care about what he did, so lets just forget him and talk about how horrible Paterno and everyone else is.

Oh, he'll get his. And so will everyone else in that organization, and every public offical who covered it up to protect their blessed game of football.

[Gutter]

Damn, now I miss when Metallica didn't suck. Thanks!

oh, sorry. you still have a copy of "and justice for all" ?

[JimBeam]

So now the kids protesting this are child molesters too. great. Lets just cut to the chase and call anyone who ever even visited Penn State a pedophile.

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem right? kill em all and let God sort it out. Loving the mentality people have towards this thing.

If your with people that throw rocks and stuff at police officers, and you do not thing to stop them yourselves, then you get what's coming to you.

[StanUpshaw]

If your with people that throw rocks and stuff at police officers, and you do not thing to stop them yourselves, then you get what's coming to you.

You're such a fucking tough guy. How do I get to be tough like you?

[StanUpshaw]

61 y.o. deaf cyclist doesn't comply with orders, get's tazed, falls of bike and dies...cops pepper spray corpse (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57330721/n.c-probes-death-of-bicyclist-tased-by-police/)

SCOTLAND NECK, N.C. - Authorities are investigating the death of a 61-year-old Halifax County man who was shocked by a police taser while sitting on a bicycle.

Roger Anthony died Tuesday, a day after a Scotland Neck police officer used a stun gun on him.

The state Office of the Medical Examiner hasn't yet determined a cause of death.

CBS Affiliate WRAL reports officers had responded to a 911 call Monday night about a man who had fallen off his bicycle in the parking lot of a bank. The caller told dispatchers that the man appeared drunk and may have hurt himself.

When Police Officer John Turner arrived, he saw Roger Anthony pedaling along 10th Street and followed in his patrol car. Turner put on his sirens and lights and yelled for him to stop, but Anthony continued to ride away, police said.

Scotland Neck Police Chief Joe Williams said Turner saw Anthony take something out his pocket and put it into his mouth. Turner got out of the car and yelled for Anthony to stop. When Anthony didn't, the officer used a stun gun on him, causing him to fall off of his bike.

Anthony was transported to Pitt County Memorial Hospital, where he was declared brain dead, his sister Gladys Freeman said.

He was taken off of life support on Tuesday.

Freeman said her brother suffered from seizures and had trouble hearing.

The family is considering whether to file a lawsuit against the town.

Scotland Neck Mayor James Mills said Wednesday that he wouldn't blame the family for suing.

"There has been no information that this man was a threat to anybody," he said. "If I was a family member, I'm sure I'd be thinking the same way."

Mills said he has tried to get information from the police department about what happened to Anthony, but they have turned him away.

Police Chief Williams said the officer is on administrative leave while the State Bureau of Investigation conducts its probe. He declined to comment further.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Gotta watch those pesky senior citizens.



http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/business/black-friday-brawl-at-buckeye-walmart-11252011

[cougarjake13]

61 y.o. deaf cyclist doesn't comply with orders, get's tazed, falls of bike and dies...cops pepper spray corpse (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57330721/n.c-probes-death-of-bicyclist-tased-by-police/)

fuck yeh they should sue

i mean if he didnt hear him and he tased him from behind then he most likely wasnt posing a threat to the cop

[StanUpshaw]

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/khBMoZdwEmc?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[furie]

61 y.o. deaf cyclist doesn't comply with orders, get's tazed, falls of bike and dies...cops pepper spray corpse (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57330721/n.c-probes-death-of-bicyclist-tased-by-police/)

no mention of pepper spray in the article.

[Jujubees2]

Fla. cop found drunk in squad car, not cuffed (http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/09/9323601-fla-cop-found-drunk-in-squad-car-not-cuffed)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/allentown/index.ssf/2011/12/allentown_cop_uses_taser_on_st.html

[JimBeam]

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/allentown/index.ssf/2011/12/allentown_cop_uses_taser_on_st.html

What kind of Zapruder ( sp ?? ) film is that ?

It jumps from people walking in the street to the " assault ".

What the hell happened to warrant the cop confronting her ?

He magically appears on video pushing and eventually zapping her.

The article mentions nothing about why the cop was there, why he was even addressing her and why he decided to use the taser.

[underdog]

What kind of Zapruder ( sp ?? ) film is that ?

It jumps from people walking in the street to the " assault ".

What the hell happened to warrant the cop confronting her ?

He magically appears on video pushing and eventually zapping her.

The article mentions nothing about why the cop was there, why he was even addressing her and why he decided to use the taser.

You're like the opposite of the person who just assumes the police are always at fault. You just naturally assume the person with the cop is guilty. It's weird.

[underdog]

different link (http://gawker.com/5868437/heres-a-cop-tasing-a-14+year+old-girl-while-she-puts-her-hands-up)

Officer Jason Ammary attempted to deal with this pressing issue by "issuing verbal commands"; when that was unsuccessful, he approached a 14-year-old student named Keshana Wilson to "get [her] to move along." Ammary says she began to curse at him, "inciting the crowd," which Ammary determined to be an arrestable offense.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A grown man can't take down a 14 year old girl without giving her an electric shock?

[sailor]

A grown man can't take down a 14 year old girl without giving her an electric shock?

She was like 250.

[disneyspy]

maybe he shoulda given her a whopper or sumpthin tsssss sssssss

[PapaBear]

A grown man can't take down a 14 year old girl without giving her an electric shock?

She was like 250.
You DEFINITELY shouldn't need an electric shock to take down a 250 year old!

[StanUpshaw]

If she was 250 years old, that means she's probably a vampire. He's lucky the taser worked at all.

[JimBeam]

You're like the opposite of the person who just assumes the police are always at fault. You just naturally assume the person with the cop is guilty. It's weird.

Because I believe that people who go into a line of work in which you can at any time lose your life ( for people who take that for granted ), as I did out of college, should be given the benefit of the doubt.

I don't know how anybody, without seeing the missing footage ( in which she very well could've been menancing towards him and/or others ), could decide who was at fault unless they wanted to believe that a cop was always wrong.

As far as him being able to " take her down " I'm sure he very well could have but then he'd have used too much force in that manner.

It's lose lose as it always is for people doing a shit job.

But of course we don't see any posts of " police procedure " when things like this happen :

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/officer-crawls-under-bus-comfort-woman-pinned-under-013738925.html

[PapaBear]

Montgomery County Police in MD never fail to look bad (http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/185650/158/Photographer-Claims-Abuse-By-Police).

WHEATON, MD (WUSA) --- Montgomery County Police have begun an internal affairs investigation of officers whom Kensington photographer Mannie Garcia says attacked him, arrested him, and charged him with disturbing the peace after he took pictures of them making arrests of two men in an underage drinking case in Wheaton.



Garcia, an award-winning professional photographer, has covered wars throughout the world, and has been assigned to cover the presidential administrations of George Herbert Walker Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama.



On June 16th of 2011, Garcia left a restaurant in Wheaton and saw Montgomery County Police officers making those arrests. He began taking pictures and, when approached by an officer, identified himself as a member of the press.
That's when he says he was attacked by the officer, dragged across the street, knocked to the ground and pushed into the side of a police car.
He says the resulting injuries needed medical care for two months.
When Garcia's wife approached, Garcia says an officer threatened her with arrest after using a string of obscenities to describe her.


Take a look at the interview. It sounds way more ridiculous than what's in print. Especially that the police claim he threw himself into the car and onto the ground, and his claims of police sitting outside his house every day.

[Sigma]

It's soon going to be time for the investigation results of the UC Davis pepper spray issue to be made public. Internal affairs of the cops are not going to be made public though. I'd like to think Lt. Pike gets what's coming to him.

[StanUpshaw]

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[JimBeam]

Sweet, some local town police brutality.

[StanUpshaw]

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rJqq6KCOkdM?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[StanUpshaw]

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/umTawimFYLs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Furtherman]

That kid deserved it.

[StanUpshaw]

How dare he not treat that fat fuck with complete and utter reverence! He's wearing a blue costume after all! BLUE!!!!

[Crispy123]

How dare he not treat that fat fuck with complete and utter reverence! He's wearing a blue costume after all! BLUE!!!!

A. what a fat peice of shit that cop was. He got winded choking the kid and had to sit on on top of him for 2 minutes to catch his breath.

B. That cop is lucky nobody had the balls to snatch his gun. If they had, that fat bastard was too out of breath to do anything about it.

C. Fuck that little punk.

[Syd]

Because I believe that people who go into a line of work in which you can at any time lose your life ( for people who take that for granted ), as I did out of college, should be given the benefit of the doubt.

So, should people who climb towers for a living or loggers being given free reign to assault people because they have a dangerous job? Boo fucking hoo, if you're a cop you're not someone special. No one is above the law, unless they're a millionaire, which most cops aren't.

[high fly]

Well, they gotta do something if we're not going to let them open fire like in Syria....

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/QZI5h.jpg

[Melk]

http://i.imgur.com/QZI5h.jpg
I saw that on reddit, too. Boy do I hate wiseasses.

[deliciousV]

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I honestly can't pretend to know the right way for that fat tub to handle the sitiuation he was in. He was obviously assigned a corner for St. Pats day, how long should he stand there and put up with that shit? although, the choking seems a bit much, He can't expect to maintain order if he puts up with that, and he can't just bail. I don't know that I wouldn't have beat that fucker down with my billy club, but I know me well enough to have avoided a career in Law Enforcement.

[Melk]

I honestly can't pretend to know the right way for that fat tub to handle the sitiuation he was in. He was obviously assigned a corner for St. Pats day, how long should he stand there and put up with that shit? although, the choking seems a bit much, He can't expect to maintain order if he puts up with that, and he can't just bail. I don't know that I wouldn't have beat that fucker down with my billy club, but I know me well enough to have avoided a career in Law Enforcement.
Same here. I couldn't imagine being able to tolerate a bunch of drunk punks saying annoying crap to me. I would want to hit them, but I don't want to hit anybody. I am a pacifist.

[Syd]

The freedom 'n' liberty loving justices came to the rescue once more with the strip search ruling, and this guy summed it up quite nicely:

Today’s Supreme Court decision on strip searches is alarming. I commented earlier that the decision reflects “the kind of logic that can turn a democracy into a police state.” Let me quickly flesh this out because I don’t believe I’m being hyperbolic.

The Court embraced today a “police-state logic.” It is a logic that seeks to eliminate, to absolutely eradicate and purge any and all security risks, no matter how small they might be. It demands total suppression and erasure of risk. The police-state logic is about identifying, describing, cataloguing any and all possible security risks, no matter how trivial, and then effectively giving the state security apparatus free rein to adopt the most penetrating strategy to obliterate that risk. Justice Kennedy’s opinion reads precisely in this vein, and reflects this logic. Listen to Kennedy marshalling the evidence:

Experience shows that people arrested for minor offenses have tried to smuggle prohibited items into jail, sometimes by using their rectal cavities or genitals for the concealment. They may have some of the same incentives as a serious criminal to hide contraband. A detainee might risk carrying cash, cigarettes, or a penknife to survive in jail. Others may make a quick decision to hide unlawful substances to avoid getting in more trouble at the time of their arrest. This record has concrete exam¬ples. Officers at the Atlantic County Correctional Facility, for example, discovered that a man arrested for driving under the influence had “2 dime bags of weed, 1 pack of rolling papers, 20 matches, and 5 sleeping pills” taped under his scrotum. (Kennedy, p. 14-15)


The police-state logic ferrets out these potential risks and then turns over to the police state full power to radically eradicate the danger—no matter how small. It is a logic that is diametrically opposed to what has dominated constitutional analysis to date, namely a “political-state logic” that balances security risks against privacy interests, liberty, and other political values, in this case especially political anti-discrimination values. The disproportionate arrest of African-Americans in the United States is extremely alarming in light of today’s decision (as the very facts of this case demonstrate).

Now, of course, Kennedy is right that these security risks exist. There are (extremely rare) cases of arrestees carrying contraband (drugs) on or in their bodies. It occurs in extremely few cases, but it does happen. One recent study of 75,000 new inmates over a five years period found 16 instances where a full body search revealed contraband. (As Breyer explains, “The record further showed that 13 of these 16 pieces of contraband would have been detected in a patdown or a search of shoes and outer-clothing. In the three instances in which contra¬band was found on the detainee’s body or in a body cavity, there was a drug or felony history that would have justified a strip search on individualized reasonable suspicion,” Breyer’s dissent at page 8. Truth is, we do not know if there are any such cases where there was no prior reasonable suspicion that the person was carrying contraband, but let’s put that aside).

I’m fully prepared to assume, with Kennedy, that there will be such cases. But the question is, do we then embrace a “police-state logic” and give the jailors the license to strip search everyone? Do we close off constitutionalism because of the very existence of a security risk, no matter how small? Or do we engage in some kind of political balancing of those security risks against other political values?

Notice that Kennedy’s police-state logic would allow for full cavity searches as well. Kennedy reports: “A person booked on a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct in Washington State managed to hide a lighter, tobacco, tattoo needles, and other prohibited items in his rectal cavity. San Francisco officials have discovered contraband hidden in body cavities of people arrested for trespassing, public nuisance, and shoplifting.” (15). On the police-state logic, there is no reason not to engage in full cavity searches of all arrestees—not just strip searches (just to remind you, a “strip search” only includes delousing showers, having to lift your genitals, and being forced to squat-and-cough while someone is peering up your rectum or vagina; it does not (yet) include touching).

The civil liberties lawyers had proposed a constitutional rule requiring reasonable suspicion that the person arrested might be carrying contraband before allowing a strip search—a rule that at least 10 states have enacted. Requiring some showing of suspicion (before handing over these extreme powers to the state) is what I would call a “political-state logic,” one that takes into consideration the political values that we share (and contest, naturally, everyday) in this country. It recognizes the security risk, but tries to impose some limits on the police state.

It’s alarming that the Supreme Court has veered toward this new police-state logic. Notice, of course, the difference—or paradox—with last week’s Supreme Court arguments about economic liberty and the health care mandate. The American ideal of a hands-off government seems to apply only in the context of economic liberty.

I’ve referred to this recently as the American paradox of laissez-faire and mass incarceration. Today’s decision reinforces and confirms this great American paradox.

http://balkin.blogspot.com/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Cops to stand trial for death of homeless man


http://gma.yahoo.com/cops-tried-alleged-fatal-beating-homeless-man-caught-225528732--abc-news-topstories.html

[hanso]

Every time I've read about what Trayvon Martin had on him it leaves out a cell phone, yet his GF claims talking to him as the deal went down, what gives?

[StanUpshaw]

More shots from the Aurora, CO dragnet (http://kdvr.com/2012/06/02/aurora-police-searching-for-bank-robbery-suspect/)

http://i.imgur.com/3its0.jpg

[jennysmurf]

More shots from the Aurora, CO dragnet (http://kdvr.com/2012/06/02/aurora-police-searching-for-bank-robbery-suspect/)

http://i.imgur.com/3its0.jpg

Wow, I can't wait to see the fallout from this one. As usual, the comments below the report are very entertaining.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Watch out for skateboarders



http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_21361016/skateboarder-speak-about-arrest-lapd-beating

[hanso]

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Michigan Police Shoot Homeless Man Over 46 Times
Don't click if you don't want to see him shot

[Chigworthy]

This is the family of DeJuan Colbert:
http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2012/08/24/16/59/rH9q6.SlMa.80.jpeg

DeJaun was shot and killed by Wichita Police a year ago when they responded to an armed robbery call at a store and they claimed DeJuan charged them with a knife. The family said that DeJuan "was a kind boy who wouldn't do such a thing." Unfortunately for them, their kind boy's final acts were caught on camera and released recently:


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Of course the family's tack has changed a bit.
http://articles.kwch.com/2012-08-27/surveillance-video_33431514

Now they are saying that they knew that their kind boy "did wrong", but that he was just trying to escape and that he shouldn't have been shot so many times. Also, they feel that the video, which is public record, should only have been released to the family and not seen by the public. I wonder if the video had shown an actual unjustified shooting by police, if they still would have preferred it only be released to the family?

[A.J.]

Geraldine Simpson knew her grandson well. She helped raise him.

How about Mom and Dad?

[underdog]

This is the family of DeJuan Colbert:
http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2012/08/24/16/59/rH9q6.SlMa.80.jpeg

DeJaun was shot and killed by Wichita Police a year ago when they responded to an armed robbery call at a store and they claimed DeJuan charged them with a knife. The family said that DeJuan "was a kind boy who wouldn't do such a thing." Unfortunately for them, their kind boy's final acts were caught on camera and released recently:


<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=4ce99dc0426b" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Of course the family's tack has changed a bit.
http://articles.kwch.com/2012-08-27/surveillance-video_33431514

Now they are saying that they knew that their kind boy "did wrong", but that he was just trying to escape and that he shouldn't have been shot so many times. Also, they feel that the video, which is public record, should only have been released to the family and not seen by the public. I wonder if the video had shown an actual unjustified shooting by police, if they still would have preferred it only be released to the family?


How many shots did it take for him to go down? Was he superman?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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[Judge Smails]

Philly police officer sucker punches a woman that he mistakenly thought splashed him with water

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[Dell]

Philly police officer sucker punches a woman that he mistakenly thought splashed him with water

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3Fn0mrdmXZI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

no way that officer isn't suspended...even in Philly

[Furtherman]

That video is just awful. That cop will lose his job. I'm a huge advocate for cops, but even that cannot be justified. That poor girl.

[Dude!]

she didn't throw the water
but she was still up to no good

she is all bouncing around
and agitating at the beginning

i bet she called the cop the n word
and that's why he smacked her

[TripleSkeet]

A white shirt too. He is FUCKED.

[keithy_19]

This is why parades should be outlawed.

[cougarjake13]

even if it was a dude the cop has o know there's cameras everywhere and not respond violently

[hanso]

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A mentally-ill man, who was also a double-amputee, is laid to rest after he was shot and killed by a Houston police officer.... "How in the hell can a man who is a double-amputee with a writing pen be such a threat?

http://www.click2houston.com/news/Funeral-held-for-double-amputee-shot-by-police/-/1735978/16799862/-/kpqqrmz/-/index.html

This was brought up on the show last week.

[hanso]

Alabama Teabagger Gets Two Years In Prison


Brian Downing, arrested for teabagging an LSU Tigers fan in a restaurant on Bourbon Street after last year's BCS Championship game, pled guilty to two obscenity charges today and will serve a two-year jail sentence. He was able to avoid a trial and more extensive jail time by reaching a plea deal with the prosecutors.

http://deadspin.com/troll-tide/

http://deadspin.com/5948267/alabama-teabagger-gets-two-years-in-prison

Over a public prank C'mon man!!

[Furtherman]

Cop Who Sucker-Punched Woman Will Lose Job

The Philadelphia police department has suspended the cop caught on video sucker-punching a woman in the face at a Puerto Rican Day Parade over the weekend.
Lt. Jonathan Josey, a 19-year veteran who also teaches "violence prevention" to teenagers, is currently suspended for 30 days with "intent to dismiss." Internal Affairs is investigating the incident, and Josey could also face criminal charges. The seemingly arbitrary sucker punch was captured in graphic detail in this video.

Josey's victim, 39-year-old Aida Guzman, was charged with disorderly conduct for allegedly throwing a beer bottle, but the District Attorney has decided to drop the charge. Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told CBS Philly yesterday, "In looking at the video and looking at the charges, clearly there was some discrepancies there. So, I'm not at all surprised in the ... I'm rather pleased that they did decide to drop the charges. I think it's appropriate in this manner."

Guzman's attorney says his client is more interested in an apology from Josey than seeing him lose his job. The officer has yet to comment on the high-profile assault, which was watched on YouTube over one million times. Her lawyer tells the Daily News, “We want an official apology, a public apology, instead of a no comment during this process."

[sailor]

Alabama Teabagger Gets Two Years In Prison


Brian Downing, arrested for teabagging an LSU Tigers fan in a restaurant on Bourbon Street after last year's BCS Championship game, pled guilty to two obscenity charges today and will serve a two-year jail sentence. He was able to avoid a trial and more extensive jail time by reaching a plea deal with the prosecutors.

http://deadspin.com/troll-tide/

http://deadspin.com/5948267/alabama-teabagger-gets-two-years-in-prison

Over a public prank C'mon man!!

He was a cop?

And yes, I'm glad he got prison time. I never understood this frat boy bullshit.

[keithy_19]

He was a cop?

And yes, I'm glad he got prison time. I never understood this frat boy bullshit.

I would say that if someone put their balls on me I would probably be calling for the death penalty.

[jennysmurf]

I would say that if someone put their balls on me I would probably be calling for the death penalty.

Uh huh, I just bet you would.:dry:

[A.J.]

Alabama Teabagger Gets Two Years In Prison


Brian Downing, arrested for teabagging an LSU Tigers fan in a restaurant on Bourbon Street after last year's BCS Championship game, pled guilty to two obscenity charges today and will serve a two-year jail sentence. He was able to avoid a trial and more extensive jail time by reaching a plea deal with the prosecutors.

http://deadspin.com/troll-tide/

http://deadspin.com/5948267/alabama-teabagger-gets-two-years-in-prison

Over a public prank C'mon man!!

Nice job by the PENAL system.

[hanso]

It was a fan of the rival team passed out crowds were messing around fan got teabagged.

[CountryBob]

I would say that if someone put their balls on me I would probably be calling for the death penalty.

Uh huh, I just bet you would.:dry:

:laugh:

[sailor]

It was a fan of the rival team passed out crowds were messing around fan got teabagged.

Yes, in a thread about cops.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/74318_10151225558707939_154031854_n.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Those 7 year olds are a threat to society



http://www.examiner.com/article/family-sue-new-york-cops-250-million-for-treating-7-year-old-son-like-criminal

[Dell]

Those 7 year olds are a threat to society



http://www.examiner.com/article/family-sue-new-york-cops-250-million-for-treating-7-year-old-son-like-criminal

I heard they were profiling 7 year olds all day...despicable!

[hanso]

Did it keep yelling " DATS WHY U GAY!!"?