View Full Version : What kind of animal eats at McDonald's?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048
Group of black women, beat up a white woman:
While the BLACK manager watches...
Black workers watch...
Black person films...
Then, hit an older white woman who's simply trying to help...
Yeah, the outrage from the left, as well as the outrage from the mainstream media, is bound to be there.:thumbdown:
I'm guessing that a big racial angle is gonna be taken here.:thumbdown:
Yeah, not gonna happen!
Judge Smails
04-22-2011, 09:25 AM
Probably just a couple of ignorant northeast Yankee and Red Sox fans.
TripleSkeet
04-22-2011, 09:29 AM
Just once I would love to see a video of one of these black bitches mouthing off and starting a fight and a guy just hauls off and drops her like a ton of bricks. Just once. I know I would have no problem doing it.
Probably just a couple of ignorant northeast Yankee and Red Sox fans.
Not too many of "those" fans at Fenway, if you know what I mean. :wink:
IamFogHat
04-22-2011, 09:34 AM
So many words I want to use.
Dudeman
04-22-2011, 09:34 AM
http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/morgan-spurlock-mcdonalds.jpg
Gutter
04-22-2011, 09:39 AM
Just once I would love to see a video of one of these black bitches mouthing off and starting a fight and a guy just hauls off and drops her like a ton of bricks. Just once. I know I would have no problem doing it.
I've actually seen that happen.....its glorious.
TripleSkeet
04-22-2011, 09:41 AM
I've actually seen that happen.....its glorious.
Thats basically my Holy Grail.
Dudeman
04-22-2011, 09:43 AM
Just once I would love to see a video of one of these black bitches mouthing off and starting a fight and a guy just hauls off and drops her like a ton of bricks. Just once. I know I would have no problem doing it.
http://www.eurthisnthat.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/condoleeza-rice-with-bush.jpg
Gutter
04-22-2011, 09:49 AM
Thats basically my Holy Grail.
oh the chick totally deserved it. She spat in this giant kids face and told him she hopes his baby gets AIDS and tried kickin him in the nuts.....BOOOOOM. she didn't even see it coming.
oh the chick totally deserved it. She spat in this giant kids face and told him she hopes his baby gets AIDS and tried kickin him in the nuts.....BOOOOOM. she didn't even see it coming.
I hope the person that threw the bunch got the standing ovation that he or she so richly deserved.
Gutter
04-22-2011, 09:58 AM
I hope the person that threw the bunch got the standing ovation that he or she so richly deserved.
we were all kind of shocked and then everyone there, even the chicks were like, "yea I don't really blame him for that one."
Snacks
04-22-2011, 11:41 AM
What kind of animal just watched this and doesnt do anything? What kind of animals cant fight 1 on 1? Its fucking amazing how there are what sounds like 3 or 4 guys watching and the only 1 who steps in is an old lady? It aslo sounds like the guy filming is telling people not to help because he wants to continue filming it and get as much as possible.
IamFogHat
04-22-2011, 12:03 PM
What kind of animal just watched this and doesnt do anything? What kind of animals cant fight 1 on 1? Its fucking amazing how there are what sounds like 3 or 4 guys watching and the only 1 who steps in is an old lady? It aslo sounds like the guy filming is telling people not to help because he wants to continue filming it and get as much as possible.
Because they are black, and the animals attacking were black, and the victim was white. Pretty simple.
Dudeman
04-22-2011, 12:25 PM
Because they are black, and the animals attacking were black, and the victim was white. Pretty simple.
http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/lynching111.jpg
SatCam
04-22-2011, 12:26 PM
Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer
if the violence doesnt kill her the food definitely will
WRESTLINGFAN
04-22-2011, 12:33 PM
http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/lynching111.jpg
I guess those animals in McDonalds were getting reparations
IamFogHat
04-22-2011, 12:33 PM
http://asylumeclectica.com/grim/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/lynching111.jpg
What does that have to do with anything?
What does that have to do with anything?
That's just the way liberals deal with these kinds of things. They turn this back to white people being racist. It's their guilty cycle.
Meanwhile, a group of black people beat up a white girl, while other black people watch, film, and do nothing to help...
Yeah... No racial angle there!:thumbdown:
Enabler
04-22-2011, 01:30 PM
Its fucking amazing how there are what sounds like 3 or 4 guys watching and the only 1 who steps in is an old lady?
Nope. Around the :17 mark one of the guys "steps in" to steal her phone. Fuck.
Snacks
04-22-2011, 01:53 PM
Nope. Around the :17 mark one of the guys "steps in" to steal her phone. Fuck.
I have noticed that a lot in these types of videos. Whenever someone is getting beat up by multiple people there always seems to be a little weasel that runs in and steals the purse, takes the wallet, cellphone etc. What pieces of shit!
furie
04-22-2011, 02:05 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec0_1303444048
this and the new fresh cut fries is why i eat at wendy's
Barnaby Jones
04-22-2011, 03:36 PM
That's just the way liberals deal with these kinds of things. They turn this back to white people being racist. It's their guilty cycle.
Meanwhile, a group of black people beat up a white girl, while other black people watch, film, and do nothing to help...
Yeah... No racial angle there!:thumbdown:
What a silly troll!!! Contrary to the hilarious bragging of flabby internet tough guys here, the general response of someone in public when confronted with this type of awful violence is going to be to do nothing, regardless of race!!! Keep flailing, silly troll!!!!
StanUpshaw
04-22-2011, 03:36 PM
If I had a dollar for every time I had a seizure at a McDonalds...
Contra
04-22-2011, 04:18 PM
What a silly troll!!! Contrary to the hilarious bragging of flabby internet tough guys here, the general response of someone in public when confronted with this type of awful violence is going to be to do nothing, regardless of race!!! Keep flailing, silly troll!!!!
WWRBD?
What a silly troll!!! Contrary to the hilarious bragging of flabby internet tough guys here, the general response of someone in public when confronted with this type of awful violence is going to be to do nothing, regardless of race!!! Keep flailing, silly troll!!!!
Stop the ignorance...
In this thread alone, we've already had a liberal use a diversion by passively reminding us of white racism, against black people. The truth is, if this were white people beating a black person, with white workers doing nothing to help, while a white person recorded the whole thing, this would be a giant racial story, condeming the entire white race, and forcing all white people to feel guilty.
Because the mainstream media leans left, this story will quickly disappear. Liberals DO NOT know how to deal with black people's racism, against white people. Most refuse to acknowlege its existence. But, these same liberals would condem any white person who makes a racial joke or conveys a racial slur.
This story has no legs...and it's unfortunate!
Enabler
04-22-2011, 06:40 PM
What if the story turns out to be that the white girl was really a transgender man getting beat down for using the ladies room? Thats what the person who filmed it is claiming. I dont know if its true but the story will def get bigger if it goes from a black on white hate crime to an anti-gay hate crime.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128
TripleSkeet
04-22-2011, 07:15 PM
What a silly troll!!! Contrary to the hilarious bragging of flabby internet tough guys here, the general response of someone in public when confronted with this type of awful violence is going to be to do nothing, regardless of race!!! Keep flailing, silly troll!!!!
Thats not true at all. Any time Ive EVER seen one person getting jumped by 2 or more people Ive stepped in and pulled them off. And I know plenty of other people that have too. Its actually something that lead to HUGE arguments with my wife, who doesnt like violence and would rather I not get involved.
But when I was 14 I got jumped by a group of 15 kids. One of them wanted to rob me and I refused so they took turns swinging on me. I couldnt really fight back because I was just trying to push them off of me. Id throw one off me and get cracked by another. Caught a nice ass whipping. Then a complete stranger pulled up in a Benz and got them away from me. Ever since then I felt like it was something I owed to anyone Ive seen getting outnumbered and beat up.
The thing with these videos is alot of black guys just like seeing girls kick the shit out of each other. It really wouldnt have surprised me if you saw the same result had it been 2 white girls beating up a black chick. They dont give a fuck, they watch it like they are watching a movie.
gotta agree to some extent with Skeet3 about people just wanting to watch a fight, and in general do you ever think a manager of a McDonalds to be effective at anything?
Whole event is despicable, but, shit like this is why if you see something like this going on you need to de-escalate. Don't just run in throwing punches, get it separated. You don't know if people have guns or knives or whatever, so keep yourself safe as well.
TripleSkeet
04-22-2011, 08:06 PM
I work at a very aptly named bar called The Roadhouse. I bartend but also am expected to bounce if shit goes down. I have seen huge brawls, like almost full scale riots and the biggest problem is always the girls. They have this insane notion that because they are women they can just swing without repercussion. Its a shame really because the bouncers in this place are like cops where if you touch them they are swinging, dont matter who you are. I have seen girls litterally Kevin Nash booted in the face down a half flight of steps for doing stupid shit like biting the bouncers.
Its insane. The guys usually cut the shit as soon we step in but the girls are just huge problems all the time. Both white and black.
underdog
04-22-2011, 08:22 PM
Roadhouse.
sailor
04-22-2011, 08:24 PM
Roadhouse.
right boot.
SonOfSmeagol
04-22-2011, 08:31 PM
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/09.24.08/gifs/DVD_Roadhouse.jpg
now we're talkin
TripleSkeet
04-22-2011, 09:01 PM
right boot.
Thats actually my text message alert sound.
hanso
04-22-2011, 10:23 PM
Stop the ignorance...
In this thread alone, we've already had a liberal use a diversion by passively reminding us of white racism, against black people. The truth is, if this were white people beating a black person, with white workers doing nothing to help, while a white person recorded the whole thing, this would be a giant racial story, condeming the entire white race, and forcing all white people to feel guilty.
Because the mainstream media leans left, this story will quickly disappear. Liberals DO NOT know how to deal with black people's racism, against white people. Most refuse to acknowlege its existence. But, these same liberals would condem any white person who makes a racial joke or conveys a racial slur.
This story has no legs...and it's unfortunate!
How does an ass beating have anything to do with politics? And why should this be in mainstream news?
I work at a very aptly named bar called The Roadhouse. I bartend but also am expected to bounce if shit goes down. I have seen huge brawls, like almost full scale riots and the biggest problem is always the girls. They have this insane notion that because they are women they can just swing without repercussion. Its a shame really because the bouncers in this place are like cops where if you touch them they are swinging, dont matter who you are. I have seen girls litterally Kevin Nash booted in the face down a half flight of steps for doing stupid shit like biting the bouncers.
Its insane. The guys usually cut the shit as soon we step in but the girls are just huge problems all the time. Both white and black.
agreeing you with a second time, girls are second only to just-turned-21 males in terms of barfights that are going to wind up turning into a complete shitshow. They have no fucking ethic about it and just go buck wild. Gender equality is great, ladies, but you gotta learn when to stop a fight. If you just go in like you do to break up a fight between guys, they'll fight you a bit so they can look tough but they're probably not going to beat your ass. Get in between a girl and whoever she's fighting? You're going to get sucker punched like a motherfucker.
edit:
also gotta give props to Drudge, I don't know if he ultimately wanted to be defending a white tranny woman but that shit was awful and it's nice to see the local Maryland news picking up the story. I hope other places are, as well.
JimBeam
04-23-2011, 08:20 AM
I don't even care about the racial or bias angle of this.
What burns my ass is that all those jackasses stood around.
I kept reading everything I could and found out that the guy filming is an employee :
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
McDonalds should fire all of them and then provide their names to the police and hopefully the victim's civil attorney so that she can sue them all including McDonalds.
I don't normally think a company should be held accountable for the actions/or inactions of their employees but the fact that any of these losers still have their jobs is absurd.
In as much as you try and avoid the racial angle it is interesting to flip the script and if we saw that several whites attacked a black patron while all white employees stood around I could imagine this story would be huge.
And whoever posted the pic of the lynchings is missing the point.
So we brush away racial violence of today by recalling that it happened 50 years ago ?
Wouldn't that make it a neverending cycle ? Is that what we want ?
How does an ass beating have anything to do with politics? And why should this be in mainstream news?
Really? You would characterize this as an "ass beating"? See, that's the problem!
If the roles were reversed, and there was a group of white people beating/ignoring to help/filming, this would be HUGE news, and a HUGE racial angle would have been made, in the media. So you see, the left leaning, mainstream media, will bury this story because it doesn't coincide with their agenda. But again, if the roles were switched, this would make headlines, just like EVERY story where the white person is the asshole!
This story will go away, without a whimper!
TripleSkeet
04-23-2011, 09:03 AM
I don't even care about the racial or bias angle of this.
What burns my ass is that all those jackasses stood around.
I kept reading everything I could and found out that the guy filming is an employee :
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-employee-filmed-brutal-beating-640128?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
McDonalds should fire all of them and then provide their names to the police and hopefully the victim's civil attorney so that she can sue them all including McDonalds.
I don't normally think a company should be held accountable for the actions/or inactions of their employees but the fact that any of these losers still have their jobs is absurd.
In as much as you try and avoid the racial angle it is interesting to flip the script and if we saw that several whites attacked a black patron while all white employees stood around I could imagine this story would be huge.
And whoever posted the pic of the lynchings is missing the point.
So we brush away racial violence of today by recalling that it happened 50 years ago ?
Wouldn't that make it a neverending cycle ? Is that what we want ?
While I agree those guys shouldve stepped in, I think the only one that should be fired is the guy filming it. Those guys get paid $7 / hour to make french fries. Theres nothing in their job description that says they have to break up fights. Morally they shouldve stepped in and threw those 2 cunts out, but legally they had no responsibility to do so. If anything they will probably be commended by McDonalds because if they stepped in to break it up and one of the animals fell and got hurt, theyd sue the balls off McDonalds.
JimBeam
04-23-2011, 09:07 AM
... but legally they had no responsibility to do so ...
So that whole Seinfeld good samaritan thing never caught on ?
welcome to Baltimore
:laugh:
:laugh:
before I even read where it happened, the accent and just in general the fight made me think "holy fuck this is baltimore" :thumbdown:
IamFogHat
04-23-2011, 02:45 PM
While I agree those guys shouldve stepped in, I think the only one that should be fired is the guy filming it. Those guys get paid $7 / hour to make french fries. Theres nothing in their job description that says they have to break up fights. Morally they shouldve stepped in and threw those 2 cunts out, but legally they had no responsibility to do so. If anything they will probably be commended by McDonalds because if they stepped in to break it up and one of the animals fell and got hurt, theyd sue the balls off McDonalds.
And to be fair, if they didn't handle it the right way, in this day and age, they feasibly could have gotten arrested for their participation in the brawl. They probably just didn't want to get caught up with legal shit. That or they're racist fuckwads.
sailor
04-23-2011, 03:06 PM
And to be fair, if they didn't handle it the right way, in this day and age, they feasibly could have gotten arrested for their participation in the brawl. They probably just didn't want to get caught up with legal shit. That or they're racist fuckwads.
the guy filming it, did he put it on the net or turn it over to the police? if he just went and posted it somewhere he should catch flak, but just recording the incident isn't necessarily a bad thing.
hanso
04-23-2011, 04:48 PM
Really? You would characterize this as an "ass beating"? See, that's the problem!
If the roles were reversed, and there was a group of white people beating/ignoring to help/filming, this would be HUGE news, and a HUGE racial angle would have been made, in the media. So you see, the left leaning, mainstream media, will bury this story because it doesn't coincide with their agenda. But again, if the roles were switched, this would make headlines, just like EVERY story where the white person is the asshole!
This story will go away, without a whimper!
How can the mainstream media be leaning left when Rupert Murdoch owns 80% of it? Race is never an angle in any news.
SonOfSmeagol
04-23-2011, 05:04 PM
How can the mainstream media be leaning left when Rupert Murdoch owns 80% of it?
Uh....no
TripleSkeet
04-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Race is never an angle in any news.
It appears youre crazier then a shithouse rat.
jonyrotn
04-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Probably just a couple of ignorant northeast Yankee and Red Sox fans.
http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd477/Sectorabc/yankeesSuckKid.jpg
StanUpshaw
04-23-2011, 10:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/lJ1zN.jpg
jonyrotn
04-24-2011, 12:03 AM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e45/PearlHarbor138/More%20murder%20more%20guts%20more%20fun/mcdonalds.jpg
Ronald is culling the heard..
jonyrotn
04-24-2011, 12:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/lJ1zN.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/beefonastick209/DSC02671.jpg
Look at this broke ass white baby, who says affirmative action doesn't work?
jonyrotn
04-24-2011, 12:57 AM
http://i1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd477/Sectorabc/PictureorVideo009.jpg
Canis Lupus Familiaris...
And that's my final answer..
spoon
04-24-2011, 09:14 AM
Yah sure thing hush, the news never covers black on white crime or just black crime in general. Hilarious.
How can the mainstream media be leaning left when Rupert Murdoch owns 80% of it? Race is never an angle in any news. The very definition of clueless!
Yah sure thing hush, the news never covers black on white crime or just black crime in general. Hilarious. Not with the same racist angle. And certainly not with the same hype and publicity. To refuse to acknowledge that, is an obvious call to your own guilt.
Even in someone like you... You go out of your way to hint that me, someone who you don't know, is a racist... Yet, I haven't heard you once mention the possibility of the black people involved in this violent act, as well as the ignorant people who stood by and did nothing, as being racist. Why? Because people like you give black people a pass in these kinds of situations. Meanwhile, you would string up any white person who did the same thing.
It's an unfortunate theme in our country.
spoon
04-24-2011, 09:23 AM
Are there examples of both, of course. Both sell, along with fear so it happens in both direction. Failure to see this is an obvious call to your own bias and or stupidity.
Are there examples of both, of course. Both sell, along with fear so it happens in both direction. Failure to see this is an obvious call to your own bias and or stupidity.
Give me examples of those stories where black on white racism was a huge story in the news...
I can't wait for this!
Dude!
04-24-2011, 10:20 AM
well, here's a pic and interview
with the victim:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/04/24/2011-04-24_chrissy_lee_polis_transgender_woman_attacked_at _baltimore_mcdonalds_calls_assaul.html
he/she is adorable
"LEAVE TRANNIES ALONE!"
http://jamiedubs.com/fuckflickr/data/meme-prints/leave-britney-alone.jpg
hanso
04-24-2011, 12:37 PM
The very definition of clueless!
At least you quoted me in context. You can see I meant all mainstream news. (and that it all has to lean left of course :surrender: )
Because the daily/nightly news does not represent a racist angle. It therefore must be leftist. Now I see the light. And any news deemed to be right is not xenophobic or fear mongering in any way. It is only perceived that way.
SonOfSmeagol
04-24-2011, 02:09 PM
huh?
At least you quoted me in context. You can see I meant all mainstream news. (and that it all has to lean left of course :surrender: )
Because the daily/nightly news does not represent a racist angle. It therefore must be leftist. Now I see the light. And any news deemed to be right is not xenophobic or fear mongering in any way. It is only perceived that way.
Your rambling is exhausting!
The media isn't left leaning because it "does not represent a racist angle"...it's left leaning because it doesn't represent a racist angle when the victim is white. When the victim is black, the race angle is paramount.
Further proof of the media's vast bias, is the free pass President Obama has gotten from it. Now you can choose to ignore it(which you have)...but most people are honest enough to acknowledge it.
Barnaby Jones
04-25-2011, 07:15 AM
Hey, trolly-troll!!! Let's cut the shit and get to the bottom of your trolling:
what exactly do you want or expect in all of this???? You're all over the place!!! If you're claiming these people are racist, then by doing so you're effectively arguing that the same type of stories about white people are racist as well!!! But at the same time you're clearly trying to present an angle that damns these people as racist and the stories about white racists as bullshit, so how is it you know this is a racist incident but the stories involving white people are just lies or spins or exaggerations???? You're trying have it both ways, Trolly Trolly Froo Froo!!!
Now if you're point is that you're going to find violent racists of all kinds, nobody is going to disagree with that, but that's obviously not the rational point you're going for!!! You're trying to condemn one group while getting another off the hook...by using the same tactics that you're complaining are being unfairly used against white people!!! Awww, Trolly McTrollpants got too greedy and has gone and fucked himself up!!! Hurp-durp-durp-hurrrrrrrrrr!!!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol:
JimBeam
04-25-2011, 08:35 AM
I've already stated that I'm less interested in the race angle of this than I am the inaction part of it.
I'm also a little pissy that now there's going to be a protest because the victim might've been transgender.
Why the hell could people looking for equality/justice not protest regarless of the sexual orientation of the victim.
And to say that race doesn't drive certain news stories is a little silly.
In all honesty if you think this was a video of whites beating a balck you don't think the " outrage " would be greater ? The pressure put on McDonalds wouldn't be more intense ?
Look at the Jena 6 issue. You had a case where 6 blacks beat a white kid and yet the outrage was over the severity of the sentences of the kids convicted and yet there was nothing about the victim other than veiled references that he might've deserved it because he may or may not have made insensetive remarks.
Let's just hope these girls get what's coming to them.
TripleSkeet
04-25-2011, 08:41 AM
I've already stated that I'm less interested in the race angle of this than I am the inaction part of it.
I'm also a little pissy that now there's going to be a protest because the victim might've been transgender.
Why the hell could people looking for equality/justice not protest regarless of the sexual orientation of the victim.
And to say that race doesn't drive certain news stories is a little silly.
In all honesty if you think this was a video of whites beating a balck you don't think the " outrage " would be greater ? The pressure put on McDonalds wouldn't be more intense ?
Look at the Jena 6 issue. You had a case where 6 blacks beat a white kid and yet the outrage was over the severity of the sentences of the kids convicted and yet there was nothing about the victim other than veiled references that he might've deserved it because he may or may not have made insensetive remarks.
Let's just hope these girls get what's coming to them.
Exactly.
well, here's a pic and interview
with the victim:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/04/24/2011-04-24_chrissy_lee_polis_transgender_woman_attacked_at _baltimore_mcdonalds_calls_assaul.html
he/she is adorable
The title at the top of the link says it all. Now because the girl is transgendered, its considered a hate crime. Why wasnt it considered one when they thought it was just a white girl? If the roles had been reversed they wouldve been SCREAMING hate crime whether the black girl was a tranny or not. And anyone that doesnt think so is a fucking idiot. The end.
Gutter
04-25-2011, 08:54 AM
Exactly.
The title at the top of the link says it all. Now because the girl is transgendered, its considered a hate crime. Why wasnt it considered one when they thought it was just a white girl? If the roles had been reversed they wouldve been SCREAMING hate crime whether the black girl was a tranny or not. And anyone that doesnt think so is a fucking idiot. The end.
it wasn't a hate crime before because she wasn't getting beat up for being a white chick. When they found out she was getting beaten up for using the womans restroom than it brought the hate crime thing into play....I guess those two chicks were in charge of that particular fast food shitter.
I will absolutely agree that if the roles were reversed, we've got a new most horrible white person ever, and its a hate crime, and Reverend fat fuck will be all over the news talking about how violence from white people won't go unnoticed or unpunished, although he won't have shit to say about these two assholes beating up a white chick. Nor will he have much to say about any of the useless mouth breathers filming a girl getting beaten half to death instead of trying to break it up. Fucking useless do nothing wastes of skin.
Gutter
04-25-2011, 09:02 AM
looks like this human hemorrhoid is a repeat offender....she's been in a fight in that same McDonalds before. Fucking self absorbed assholes like this think no one can say shit to them and they can be the biggest shit bags on the planet with zero accountability.
http://gawker.com/#!5795392/mcdonalds-basher-had-brawled-there-before
Hey, trolly-troll!!! Let's cut the shit and get to the bottom of your trolling:
what exactly do you want or expect in all of this???? You're all over the place!!! If you're claiming these people are racist, then by doing so you're effectively arguing that the same type of stories about white people are racist as well!!! But at the same time you're clearly trying to present an angle that damns these people as racist and the stories about white racists as bullshit, so how is it you know this is a racist incident but the stories involving white people are just lies or spins or exaggerations???? You're trying have it both ways, Trolly Trolly Froo Froo!!!
Now if you're point is that you're going to find violent racists of all kinds, nobody is going to disagree with that, but that's obviously not the rational point you're going for!!! You're trying to condemn one group while getting another off the hook...by using the same tactics that you're complaining are being unfairly used against white people!!! Awww, Trolly McTrollpants got too greedy and has gone and fucked himself up!!! Hurp-durp-durp-hurrrrrrrrrr!!!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol:
(Has no substace to bring to the argument 101: Call the other guy a troll, put in lots of "lol" and facial icons and avoid debating the actual topic.)
The point that you fear admitting, the point that is very obvious to some but continues to elude your guilty conscious, is that if this was a few white people beating on a black person, with other white people standing by and not helping, while a white person filmed, the story would have been HUGE and cries of racism would run rampid. Now, because this is reversed, the story avoided becoming a racial one...it was only when the victim was found out to be trans, that the hate crime angle was whispered. But when is was JUST a straight white person being beaten...race was not the headline.
Are you able to follow this? Nah...you've seen "Roots" far too many times!
Where are spoon's examples of all those black on white, racist acts, that gained great popularity?
I'll keep waiting!
When it's a black person committing a crime against a white person, there is no rush to judgement on a racial motivating factor. The black person is given the benefit of the doubt.
However, when it's a white person committing a crime against a black person, the first things that is throw out there is "hate crime".
Why are people so afraid to acknowledge this very evident fact?
Judge Smails
04-25-2011, 12:32 PM
Give me examples of those stories where black on white racism was a huge story in the news...
I can't wait for this!
Look what else happened in Baltimore
http://<IFRAME title="YouTube video player" height=390 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q8MlI0LnIw" frameBorder=0 width=480 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q8MlI0LnIw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)
According to the report there were four incidences. On only one occasion did someone say "white boy" (an arguably innocuous comment in relation to an assault - and it only happened one time). The police is considering classifying only that one incident as a possible bias crime. Yet the news runs with the story that there are racist attacks going on. Are they right? More than likely, yes. Do they have enough info to make that conclusion? The police certainly don't think so, yet. But the news will run with it because the racial angle sells. And it doesn't matter if it's white on black or black on white.
Probably, the McDonald's beating is more anti-gay than anti-white in reality. Will hush be joining GLAAD to protest this outrage?
TripleSkeet
04-25-2011, 02:32 PM
Look what else happened in Baltimore
http://<IFRAME title="YouTube video player" height=390 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q8MlI0LnIw" frameBorder=0 width=480 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q8MlI0LnIw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)
According to the report there were four incidences. On only one occasion did someone say "white boy" (an arguably innocuous comment in relation to an assault - and it only happened one time). The police is considering classifying only that one incident as a possible bias crime. Yet the news runs with the story that there are racist attacks going on. Are they right? More than likely, yes. Do they have enough info to make that conclusion? The police certainly don't think so, yet. But the news will run with it because the racial angle sells. And it doesn't matter if it's white on black or black on white.
Probably, the McDonald's beating is more anti-gay than anti-white in reality. Will hush be joining GLAAD to protest this outrage?
Thats one case out of a million. Race is very rarely brought out as a motivating factor when its black on white crime.
The whole hate crime thing is so fucking stupid to begin with its aggrivating. So these black kids jumped 4 people, but because they called 1 guy a "white boy", that makes his beating more punishable. What kind of fucked up, ass backwards society are we living in where this makes any kind of logical sense whatsoever??? Its so fucking retarded its laughable. "Beat this guys head in with a pipe, just dont yell nigger. Thatll get you the serious time." :wallbash:
Snacks
04-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Thats one case out of a million. Race is very rarely brought out as a motivating factor when its black on white crime.
The whole hate crime thing is so fucking stupid to begin with its aggrivating. So these black kids jumped 4 people, but because they called 1 guy a "white boy", that makes his beating more punishable. What kind of fucked up, ass backwards society are we living in where this makes any kind of logical sense whatsoever??? Its so fucking retarded its laughable. "Beat this guys head in with a pipe, just dont yell nigger. Thatll get you the serious time." :wallbash:
1st of all that video doesnt really show the media exaggerating all the cases to hate crime they only mention the one. So they arent going overboard they are actually reporting the facts that they received from police. I hate the media but they do not seem to be doing what the original poster of this video said they are doing.
That being said, there should be no such charge in any case as hate crime. Crime is crime. You shouldnt get more time because you might have done it out of prejudiced or not and proving it is hard. Its just 1 more way to trump up charges. Lets also make it clear, when you are in a fight you will say the most hateful, hurtful shit you can think of. I think plenty of people who arent racist would use the word white boy or the "N" word during a fight just to piss off or shit on the person they are fighting even more. Everyone who throws out those words doesnt mean they are racist it means they live in the real world. When people fight with their friends they throw out the worst shit they know about them to hurt them more. Thats what people do. You shouldnt get 2 or 3 times the sentence because during a rage you spoke a racial word.
TripleSkeet
04-25-2011, 07:17 PM
1st of all that video doesnt really show the media exaggerating all the cases to hate crime they only mention the one. So they arent going overboard they are actually reporting the facts that they received from police. I hate the media but they do not seem to be doing what the original poster of this video said they are doing.
That being said, there should be no such charge in any case as hate crime. Crime is crime. You shouldnt get more time because you might have done it out of prejudiced or not and proving it is hard. Its just 1 more way to trump up charges. Lets also make it clear, when you are in a fight you will say the most hateful, hurtful shit you can think of. I think plenty of people who arent racist would use the word white boy or the "N" word during a fight just to piss off or shit on the person they are fighting even more. Everyone who throws out those words doesnt mean they are racist it means they live in the real world. When people fight with their friends they throw out the worst shit they know about them to hurt them more. Thats what people do. You shouldnt get 2 or 3 times the sentence because during a rage you spoke a racial word.
Exactly.
disneyspy
04-25-2011, 09:00 PM
Give me examples of those stories where black on white racism was a huge story in the news...
I can't wait for this!
i guess you never heard of OJ Simpson,he was this black ex football player that killed two white people and got away with it but it was huge news at the time
sailor
04-26-2011, 02:23 AM
i guess you never heard of OJ Simpson,he was this black ex football player that killed two white people and got away with it but it was huge news at the time
i never heard that case called a hate crime, just a jealous spouse.
sailor
04-26-2011, 04:42 AM
So, a 34 year old father of four intervened in some scuffle at a mcdonalds in england and got shot dead for it. That's why you don't get involved.
i guess you never heard of OJ Simpson,he was this black ex football player that killed two white people and got away with it but it was huge news at the time Nobody ever said OJ killed him because he was white.
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 07:19 AM
Nobody ever said OJ killed him because he was white.
bullshit,i did you liar!
Look what else happened in Baltimore
http://<IFRAME title="YouTube video player" height=390 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q8MlI0LnIw" frameBorder=0 width=480 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1q8MlI0LnIw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)
According to the report there were four incidences. On only one occasion did someone say "white boy" (an arguably innocuous comment in relation to an assault - and it only happened one time). The police is considering classifying only that one incident as a possible bias crime. Yet the news runs with the story that there are racist attacks going on. Are they right? More than likely, yes. Do they have enough info to make that conclusion? The police certainly don't think so, yet. But the news will run with it because the racial angle sells. And it doesn't matter if it's white on black or black on white.
Probably, the McDonald's beating is more anti-gay than anti-white in reality. Will hush be joining GLAAD to protest this outrage?
I love when people post awful examples!
bullshit,i did you liar!
I stand corrected!
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 07:22 AM
I love when people post awful examples!
i cant believe anything you say
LIAR!!
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 07:22 AM
I stand corrected!
ok,but how do we know?
But the news will run with it because the racial angle sells.
It sells if it's white racism against black people. It does not, however, sell conversely.
I posed a question to spoon, for which he hasn't responded(typical)...so I will pose it to you. Name all the national stories, where black on white racsim was the headline. And not some story with no legs, that hasn't made it out of its local scene(as you've already posted)...I'm talking about national, was all over the place, story. The kind of story you don't have to post, you just have to casually mention. Like "The Don Imus story", or "the professor gates story"...just a few examples.
I can't wait!
ok,but how do we know? Someone tell the unfunny guy, who tries way too hard, to go away.
We get it, you exist... attention, attention, attention...
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 07:37 AM
Someone tell the unfunny guy, who tries way too hard, to go away.
We get it, you exist... attention, attention, attention...
ok,go away
Furtherman
04-26-2011, 07:40 AM
I went to a fight and a McDonalds broke out.
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 07:41 AM
I went to a fight and a McDonalds broke out.
what color was the McDonalds?
Furtherman
04-26-2011, 07:44 AM
what color was the McDonalds?
Green. Shamrock Shake everywhere.
Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 11:56 AM
It sells if it's white racism against black people. It does not, however, sell conversely.
I posed a question to spoon, for which he hasn't responded(typical)...so I will pose it to you. Name all the national stories, where black on white racsim was the headline. And not some story with no legs, that hasn't made it out of its local scene(as you've already posted)...I'm talking about national, was all over the place, story. The kind of story you don't have to post, you just have to casually mention. Like "The Don Imus story", or "the professor gates story"...just a few examples.
I can't wait!
Hymie Town
Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 12:07 PM
Central Park Jogger Wilding Case
Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 12:13 PM
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 12:20 PM
Farrakhan's "Gutter Religion" quote (or, really anytime Farrakhan opens his mouth)
Gutter
04-26-2011, 12:22 PM
Farrakhan's "Gutter Religion" quote (or, really anytime Farrakhan opens his mouth)
tis...whas that?
Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 12:25 PM
Long Island Railroad Shooter
StanUpshaw
04-26-2011, 12:32 PM
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Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 12:58 PM
Sister Soulja or
The black guy who said all whites need to be exterminated off the face of the Earth at the Katrina hearing
I don't know how many more I'm supposed to come up with.
I'm sure this was all a waste of time though, because hush will definitely find a reason why all of these don't meet his definition.
Sister Soulja or
The black guy who said all whites need to be exterminated off the face of the Earth at the Katrina hearing
I don't know how many more I'm supposed to come up with.
I'm sure this was all a waste of time though, because hush will definitely find a reason why all of these don't meet his definition.
Tremendous examples!
Hymie Town(1984) Slur against Jewish people.
Central Park Jogger(1989) There was not a racist angle, in this case.
Jeremiah Wright and Farrakhan continue to get free passes from the mainstream media.
This country elected a President with strong links to both men. The media NEVER made a big deal of that. Imagine if McCain was best friends with the leader of the KKK and Kramer!
Long Island Railroad Shooter(1993) Despite his writings(boasting of hate for white's and uncle tom's), and his obvious target to kill white people, this was never a huge racial story. President Clinton even refused to acknowledge the racial angerl. In fact, black people quickly became the victim's in this case. Ferguson began the case with a "black rage" defense(seriously!), due to the racial injustice he had encountered over the course of his life. Then, when a county executive reffered to Ferguson as an "animal" he was publicly condemed, with the urging of Jessie Jackson, as being racially insensitive(seriously!)
Sister Soulja(1992) I'll give you this one... But it took a black person, calling for black people to kill white people, lol
The black guy who said white people should be lifted off the earth, got a free pass.
So through all of your googling... All your searching... You come up with a slur in 1984, and a few examples in the late 80's and early 90's, some of which don't really apply? Seriously?
Want me to give you the converse examples?
Judge Smails
04-26-2011, 02:21 PM
You're a jerkoff. I could go point by point and show you why you're wrong and that they all had a racial angle to them but it won't do anything. Also, the very fact that you and I know about them proves they didn't "get a free pass" from the press. But, your mind is made up. I'm done talking to you.
Oh, and I didn't Google anything. Those were just what I came up with off the top of my head.
Also, thanks for clearing up the fact that Jewish people are not white, Adolf.
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 03:07 PM
You're a jerkoff. I could go point by point and show you why you're wrong and that they all had a racial angle to them but it won't do anything. Also, the very fact that you and I know about them proves they didn't "get a free pass" from the press. But, your mind is made up. I'm done talking to you.
Oh, and I didn't Google anything. Those were just what I came up with off the top of my head.
Also, thanks for clearing up the fact that Jewish people are not white, Adolf.
that guys suck a jerkoff, i no longer have to masturbate
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:11 PM
that guys SUCK a jerkoff, i no longer have to masturbate
care to share sumthin with us?
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 03:12 PM
care to share sumthin with us?
stoopid keyboards,how do they work?
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:13 PM
stoopid keyboards,how do they work?
they only work for jerk offs
sailor
04-26-2011, 03:13 PM
Tremendous examples!
Hymie Town(1984) Slur against Jewish people.
Central Park Jogger(1989) There was not a racist angle, in this case.
Jeremiah Wright and Farrakhan continue to get free passes from the mainstream media.
This country elected a President with strong links to both men. The media NEVER made a big deal of that. Imagine if McCain was best friends with the leader of the KKK and Kramer!
Long Island Railroad Shooter(1993) Despite his writings(boasting of hate for white's and uncle tom's), and his obvious target to kill white people, this was never a huge racial story. President Clinton even refused to acknowledge the racial angerl. In fact, black people quickly became the victim's in this case. Ferguson began the case with a "black rage" defense(seriously!), due to the racial injustice he had encountered over the course of his life. Then, when a county executive reffered to Ferguson as an "animal" he was publicly condemed, with the urging of Jessie Jackson, as being racially insensitive(seriously!)
Sister Soulja(1992) I'll give you this one... But it took a black person, calling for black people to kill white people, lol
The black guy who said white people should be lifted off the earth, got a free pass.
So through all of your googling... All your searching... You come up with a slur in 1984, and a few examples in the late 80's and early 90's, some of which don't really apply? Seriously?
Want me to give you the converse examples?
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuobxP8ZZ7B43aGrxxitxD10UD9zKBL JudhnYSXQtTRcAgy6S3mw
sailor
04-26-2011, 03:14 PM
care to share sumthin with us?
Cum? Eww!
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:15 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuobxP8ZZ7B43aGrxxitxD10UD9zKBL JudhnYSXQtTRcAgy6S3mw
this is now a Chuck thread
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:16 PM
http://www.highsnobiety.com/uploads/RTEmagicC_converse_fragment_red_1.jpg.jpg
these are my fav
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:17 PM
Cum? Eww!
spy knows what it tastes like
:happy:
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 03:20 PM
spy knows what it tastes like
:happy:
who hasnt kissed a chick after shes given you head?
plus sometimes when i shoot a load i'll be like wow and the load will shoot up in the air and plaster my face and sometimes it gets in my mouth,any guy that says hes never tasted his own cum shoots a weak stream
sailor
04-26-2011, 03:22 PM
who hasnt kissed a chick after shes given you head?
plus sometimes when i shoot a load i'll be like wow and the load will shoot up in the air and plaster my face and sometimes it gets in my mouth,any guy that says hes never tasted his own cum shoots a weak stream
Yeah, much of that will be a mod quote.
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 03:24 PM
sailor gives me head
for any mod that feels like replacing said mod quote
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:24 PM
who hasnt kissed a chick after shes given you head?
plus sometimes when i shoot a load i'll be like wow and the load will shoot up in the air and plaster my face and sometimes it gets in my mouth,any guy that says hes never tasted his own cum shoots a weak stream
does she look familiar?
http://images.inmagine.com/img/corbis/crb459/crb459039.jpg
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 03:25 PM
does she look familiar?
http://images.inmagine.com/img/corbis/crb459/crb459039.jpg
thats just wrong
she looks older than i remember
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:26 PM
thats just wrong
she looks older than i remember
you and country bob are cousins, aren't ya?
disneyspy
04-26-2011, 03:28 PM
you and country bob are cousins, aren't ya?
well at least we aint step brothers!
red_red_red
04-26-2011, 03:34 PM
well at least we aint step brothers!
http://x64.xanga.com/f19f711229131276270425/m220125211.gif
TripleSkeet
04-26-2011, 10:08 PM
As much as it pains me to say it I agree with hush on this one. If white kids attack a black person, regardless of the reason, they are crucified publicly and immediately. The Duke lacrosse team immediately comes to mind. I think that twat just killed somebody recently too.
Yet black people attack whites plenty, many times specifically for race, and it never gets the same amount of attention or condemnation from the media. There is absolutely a double standard there and I cant understand how some of you dont think there is.
I dont think its political though. I just think the media is scared to call out blacks for racism. Some of those examples Judge gave, Hymietown? That was actually more anti-semitism then racism, but even then Jesse Jackson didnt catch NEARLY the amount of heat as say, Jimmy The Greek, who just brought up slave breeding, a practice that did exist, on how black athletes were dominating sports. Or Howard Cosell for calling a player a "little monkey" in complete innocence. That was a guy whos whole life he stood up for black athletes! And he was crucified for that comment.
Snacks
04-26-2011, 10:44 PM
As much as it pains me to say it I agree with hush on this one. If white kids attack a black person, regardless of the reason, they are crucified publicly and immediately. The Duke lacrosse team immediately comes to mind. I think that twat just killed somebody recently too.
Yet black people attack whites plenty, many times specifically for race, and it never gets the same amount of attention or condemnation from the media. There is absolutely a double standard there and I cant understand how some of you dont think there is.
I dont think its political though. I just think the media is scared to call out blacks for racism. Some of those examples Judge gave, Hymietown? That was actually more anti-semitism then racism, but even then Jesse Jackson didnt catch NEARLY the amount of heat as say, Jimmy The Greek, who just brought up slave breeding, a practice that did exist, on how black athletes were dominating sports. Or Howard Cosell for calling a player a "little monkey" in complete innocence. That was a guy whos whole life he stood up for black athletes! And he was crucified for that comment.
This, EXACTLY!
Barnaby Jones
04-27-2011, 06:55 AM
So silly!!! You goobers do realize that most violent black on white or white on black crimes are not major news stories, right???? I mean, you're not seriously thinking that every time a white person attacks a black person it makes headlines, right??? Because that would be impressively dumb!!!! Yeah, the media that overwhelmingly and disproportionately focuses on non-white crime is "afraid" of making non-whites look bad and being called racist!!! That's a funny one!!! Look at any and every media study that shows that major media outlets overwhelming focus their crime reporting on non-white incidents before you start jumping to silly conclusions!!! Seriously, go pick one at random!!!! It's hilarious that people are complaining that this story isn't "getting enough attention" when you can pick up practically any local paper or any local news program and the crime focus will be overwhelming non-white!!!
TripleSkeet
04-27-2011, 08:18 AM
So silly!!! You goobers do realize that most violent black on white or white on black crimes are not major news stories, right???? I mean, you're not seriously thinking that every time a white person attacks a black person it makes headlines, right??? Because that would be impressively dumb!!!! Yeah, the media that overwhelmingly and disproportionately focuses on non-white crime is "afraid" of making non-whites look bad and being called racist!!! That's a funny one!!! Look at any and every media study that shows that major media outlets overwhelming focus their crime reporting on non-white incidents before you start jumping to silly conclusions!!! Seriously, go pick one at random!!!! It's hilarious that people are complaining that this story isn't "getting enough attention" when you can pick up practically any local paper or any local news program and the crime focus will be overwhelming non-white!!!
Its not the same thing. Sure black crimes are on the news every night. Most crimes are. My point is though when you have a situation like this come up, and the attackers are white and the victim black, the race angle always comes into play. When its a black person comitting a crime against a white, its just treated like a regular crime (in my opinion thats how EVERY crime should be treated).
The media plays the race card when a story comes up and its whites attacking blacks. This isnt my opinion, its something anybody that actually follows the fucking news can see for themselves. Are you trying to honestly say the news media treats all stories equally regardless of the race of the victim and criminal??? Because thats a fucking joke.
sailor
04-27-2011, 09:45 AM
Can't wait for !'s response.
disneyspy
04-27-2011, 09:52 AM
i have to agree with BJ,this is trash fighting,not a major national news story,otherwise you could just put a camera outside of any frontline NA or AA meeting or dive bar and get "major" news stories all the time
TripleSkeet
04-27-2011, 10:13 AM
i have to agree with BJ,this is trash fighting,not a major national news story,otherwise you could just put a camera outside of any frontline NA or AA meeting or dive bar and get "major" news stories all the time
I agree thats what it is also. I also think that if this same fight had hit youtube with the races reversed it would THEN be a national news story.
Snacks
04-27-2011, 10:33 AM
I agree thats what it is also. I also think that if this same fight had hit youtube with the races reversed it would THEN be a national news story.
Without a doubt it would be because the black "leaders" like Rev Al and Rev Jackson would be on every news shows saying its racism and look how "we" are still be treated. Usually when its a white as the victim every one in the media (if the story gets any air time) is very quick to not say its a racial thing. But if if the victim is a jew or a black then they are very quick to say it is racial motivated.
You're a jerkoff. I could go point by point and show you why you're wrong and that they all had a racial angle to them but it won't do anything. Also, the very fact that you and I know about them proves they didn't "get a free pass" from the press. But, your mind is made up. I'm done talking to you.
Oh, and I didn't Google anything. Those were just what I came up with off the top of my head.
Also, thanks for clearing up the fact that Jewish people are not white, Adolf. Ha... It didn't take you long to call me a racist.
You gave bad example's... I debunked them. I'm sorry you're so bad at this!
When a liberal is on the ropes, the accusations of racism come out. That's the liberal desperation!
Judge Smails
04-28-2011, 07:47 AM
Ha... It didn't take you long to call me a racist.
You gave bad example's... I debunked them. I'm sorry you're so bad at this!
When a liberal is on the ropes, the accusations of racism come out. That's the liberal desperation!
I'm not bad at this. I just don't want to argue with you because there's no point. You just called TripleSkeet a liberal who always resorts to the racism claim in the Obama thread when he's actually on your side in this thread. That's what normal human beings do. They develop opinions based on the facts presented in individual instances. They don't just spout ideological dogma and refuse to consider that the other side may have some valid points.
Does Jesse Jackson get a pass alot of the time? Yes. (See what I did there?) But if you refuse to see that Jesse Jackson was crucified by the press for his Hymie Town comment then I don't know what to tell you. Same goes with the other examples I gave you which you had asked for.
And it doesn't matter that Hymie refers to jews and not specifically to whites because you wanted examples of where blacks were held to the same standard as whites. If you want to take religion out of it I can tell you that there are plenty of white figures who have "gotten passes" from the media for recent anti-muslim comments.
This is the last time you'll hear from me because I won't waste my time on you any longer. So, go ahead and reply to this so you can get the last word and call me a pussy for not wanting to beat my head against a wall.
Edit: Oh, let me just add one more thing: You sir, are a "presumtuous moron". Which is what you called TripleSkeet in the Obama thread because he deigned to have a different opinion than you in that thread even though he essentially agrees with you in this thread.
TripleSkeet
04-28-2011, 10:40 AM
Edit: Oh, let me just add one more thing: You sir, are a "presumtuous moron". Which is what you called TripleSkeet in the Obama thread because he deigned to have a different opinion than you in that thread even though he essentially agrees with you in this thread.
He called me a WHAT????? :wink:
TripleSkeet
04-28-2011, 10:47 AM
And it doesn't matter that Hymie refers to jews and not specifically to whites because you wanted examples of where blacks were held to the same standard as whites. If you want to take religion out of it I can tell you that there are plenty of white figures who have "gotten passes" from the media for recent anti-muslim comments.
Heres why I disagree with you on this point, at least from my point of view. My point was blacks arent held to the same standards as white when the roles are reversed. That doesnt mean blacks can insult everyone else without any kind of backlash.
I cant say for sure because it didnt happen but in my opinion, nobody wouldve said a word had he called NYC Honkytown. I mean, at that time All in the Family was the show that tackled race first and foremost, and I only remember Archie Bunker saying the word nigger once. Yet in The Jeffersons, George Jefferson used the word Honky at least once an episode without care in the world.
There is a double standard. Jews and gays are the only groups of white people that its off limits to fuck with. And the gays just started getting support. Personally, I think if people want a world where everyone is treated equal, then hate crime laws and all this double standard bullshit has to go. Its the only way to treat everyone fairly under the eyes of the law.
disneyspy
04-28-2011, 10:48 AM
He called me a WHAT????? :wink:
he said you love black quarterbacks
he said you love black quarterbacks We see that you are here. We promise!
disneyspy
04-28-2011, 02:47 PM
We see that you are here. We promise!
you can't possibly think you're funny
I'm not bad at this. I just don't want to argue with you because there's no point. You just called TripleSkeet a liberal who always resorts to the racism claim in the Obama thread when he's actually on your side in this thread. That's what normal human beings do. They develop opinions based on the facts presented in individual instances. They don't just spout ideological dogma and refuse to consider that the other side may have some valid points.
Does Jesse Jackson get a pass alot of the time? Yes. (See what I did there?) But if you refuse to see that Jesse Jackson was crucified by the press for his Hymie Town comment then I don't know what to tell you. Same goes with the other examples I gave you which you had asked for.
And it doesn't matter that Hymie refers to jews and not specifically to whites because you wanted examples of where blacks were held to the same standard as whites. If you want to take religion out of it I can tell you that there are plenty of white figures who have "gotten passes" from the media for recent anti-muslim comments.
This is the last time you'll hear from me because I won't waste my time on you any longer. So, go ahead and reply to this so you can get the last word and call me a pussy for not wanting to beat my head against a wall.
Edit: Oh, let me just add one more thing: You sir, are a "presumtuous moron". Which is what you called TripleSkeet in the Obama thread because he deigned to have a different opinion than you in that thread even though he essentially agrees with you in this thread.
Me and Triple don't see eye-to-eye...he just agreed with me on one point. That's all.
You made poor points, resorted to calling me a racist when you were on the ropes and now you are taking your ball and going home. Job well done!
you can't possibly think you're funny You're just gonna keep going, aren't you?
You are herpes!
weekapaugjz
04-28-2011, 02:58 PM
You're just gonna keep going, aren't you?
You are herpes!
he says it's not worth an answer.
Crispy123
04-28-2011, 04:08 PM
You got to love rascists who complain when people call them rascist.
SonOfSmeagol
04-28-2011, 04:30 PM
What is it with these misguided racial accusations? Have you no reading comprehension? Or spell checker?
TripleSkeet
04-28-2011, 10:05 PM
he said you love black quarterbacks
We see that you are here. We promise!
You havent been around here long enough to get that. By the way Dis, Doug Williams is still that lone blind squirrel that found the nut!
hanso
04-30-2011, 06:54 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MHgMd.jpg
Mc-aids yummy mommy
I miss those old styrofoam containers.
hanso
05-01-2011, 05:14 PM
Not me, as those things don't break down.
Dude!
05-01-2011, 05:25 PM
Not me, as those things don't break down.
so what...they burn
and melt really cool
Judge Smails
09-13-2011, 06:31 PM
Convicted of a hate crime and first degree assault. Five years in prison. (http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/woman-sentenced-to-5-years-in-rosedale-transgender-attack/)
cougarjake13
09-13-2011, 06:55 PM
that hush guy was a bad mofo
shut yer mouf
hey im just talking bout hush
Judge Smails
10-15-2011, 09:03 AM
http://<IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qQa8nqdrOO4" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qQa8nqdrOO4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/14/shock-video-savage-attack-at-manhattan-mcdonalds/
While the employee was obviously way out of line I like the fact that the Channel 2 news report breezes over the fact that the girls attacked him first and jumped over the counter and then brings up the employee's criminal past like he shouldn't be working at McDonalds. I'm pretty sure McDonald's jobs and criminal pasts go hand in hand.
Dude!
10-15-2011, 09:13 AM
that hush guy was a bad mofo
shut yer mouf
hey im just talking bout hush
then we can dig it!
disneyspy
10-15-2011, 09:38 AM
http://<IFRAME height=315 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qQa8nqdrOO4" frameBorder=0 width=560 allowfullscreen></IFRAME> (http://<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qQa8nqdrOO4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/14/shock-video-savage-attack-at-manhattan-mcdonalds/
While the employee was obviously way out of line I like the fact that the Channel 2 news report breezes over the fact that the girls attacked him first and jumped over the counter and then brings up the employee's criminal past like he shouldn't be working at McDonalds. I'm pretty sure McDonald's jobs and criminal pasts go hand in hand.
good for him,some chicks try to pass a bad 50,they slap him and come over the counter,they didnt get enough of a pounding
StanUpshaw
10-15-2011, 09:44 AM
Are we SURE they were women this time?
StanUpshaw
10-16-2011, 10:16 PM
http://www.abload.de/img/lovinzf3f.gif
good for him,some chicks try to pass a bad 50,they slap him and come over the counter,they didnt get enough of a pounding
This.
StanUpshaw
10-17-2011, 08:06 AM
Yes. That was a reasonable and proper response. :wallbash:
If you've ever worked in a restaurant or bar, you'd understand.
Snacks
10-17-2011, 08:11 AM
Yes. That was a reasonable and proper response. :wallbash:
What would you do if someone verbally abused you, then slapped you then jumped over the counter and ran after you trying to attack you? Would you stand there or fight back, especially when its 2 people coming at you?
StanUpshaw
10-17-2011, 08:21 AM
What would you do if someone verbally abused you, then slapped you then jumped over the counter and ran after you trying to attack you? Would you stand there or fight back, especially when its 2 people coming at you?
Fighting back is one thing. He fractured a fucking skull while savagely beating people lying on the ground.
Snacks
10-17-2011, 08:33 AM
Fighting back is one thing. He fractured a fucking skull while savagely beating people lying on the ground.
So a couple of crazy people who acted tough enough to come at you while acting like animals have no chance of having a gun on them? His adrenalin was pumping and he was scared. Maybe he should have stopped a swing or 2 sooner then he did. But he didnt know if they would get up or at least be able to reach for a weapon if they had one. The guy is at no fault. This would never have happened if they didnt jump over the counter and go after him. They are at fault not him.
sailor
10-17-2011, 08:34 AM
Fighting back is one thing. He fractured a fucking skull while savagely beating people lying on the ground.
Yeah, I have no problem with his initial actions, but there's a clear point when they're no longer a threat.
Jujubees2
10-17-2011, 09:00 AM
Yeah, I have no problem with his initial actions, but there's a clear point when they're no longer a threat.
yeah, like that pharmacist in the midwest who was being robbed but shot one of the robbers a few times, got a second gun and finished him off and was then convicted of murder.
Dude!
10-17-2011, 09:01 AM
i wish he'd thrown 'em
in the french fryer
Enabler
10-17-2011, 09:14 AM
Any word on whether or not the $50 was actually fake? If so those drunk bitches should face federal counterfeiting charges on top of whatever theyre getting charged with now.
Either way this cashier is fucked because of his past. But it seems to me like he was doing his job and defending himself. If the bill was fake and he accepted it, the cash prob comes out of his pay. If he were only able to hold back the last couple swings Id say he should walk away from this free and clear.
Either way this cashier is fucked because of his past.
Not necessarily. His lawyer could argue that he has PTSD and reacted out of instinct like he would have in jail if someone came at him.
sailor
10-17-2011, 09:45 AM
Don't most places like that not accept any bill over a $20 regardless?
Misteriosa
10-17-2011, 09:48 AM
Don't most places like that not accept any bill over a $20 regardless?
yup.. and the grease stained printout sheet is usually taped to the wall. it always has to be written in all caps using comic-sans or times new roman with the obligatory bad clip art of money.
PapaBear
10-17-2011, 07:21 PM
I know a guy who served 5 years in prison for malicious wounding when he stabbed a guy who broke into his house. The prosecutor's problem with him was that he stabbed the guy like 17 times.
HERE'S the McDonald's guy. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/assault/mcdonalds-attacker-rayon-mcintosh-987653)
Until last Thursday, the 31-year-old New York City man was just another McDonald’s cashier who had just gotten out of state prison after spending 10 years on a manslaughter conviction (McIntosh fatally shot a teenage friend).
Snacks
10-17-2011, 07:25 PM
I know a guy who served 5 years in prison for malicious wounding when he stabbed a guy who broke into his house. The prosecutor's problem with him was that he stabbed the guy like 17 times.
HERE'S the McDonald's guy. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/assault/mcdonalds-attacker-rayon-mcintosh-987653)
Im so tired of people bringing up his past and some people questioning what he was doing even working there. ITS FUCKING MCDONALDS where else should he be working? This is another problem this country seems to have. When someone serves their time and gets out we make it almost impossible for them to find work or we dont allow them to do anything but these shitty jobs and then we wonder why so many criminals get in trouble again. Maybe its because they get out and never get to move forward or maybe b/c they arent allowed to work anywhere. Its fucking retarded.
PapaBear
10-17-2011, 07:28 PM
He managed to get a job after killing someone. I can barely get any jobs after getting caught with two grams of coke. Now THAT'S retarded.
And he just got out of prison. I did my time 12 years ago.
Snacks
10-17-2011, 07:33 PM
He managed to get a job after killing someone. I can barely get any jobs after getting caught with two grams of coke. Now THAT'S retarded.
And he just got out of prison. I did my time 12 years ago.
I think you should be able to work. Im all for people getting out of jail and starting over but in this new america it seems people have to live down their mistakes forever. I dont know if he killed his friend on purpose, if it was an accident or whatever. Im guessing since he got out after 10 years it might be something other then murder 1. Even so if they felt he did his time then thats it, he should be able to get work.
Did you try to work at mcdonalds? I bet they will hire you.
jennysmurf
10-17-2011, 07:34 PM
He managed to get a job after killing someone. I can barely get any jobs after getting caught with two grams of coke. Now THAT'S retarded.
And he just got out of prison. I did my time 12 years ago.
I've got a job for you. It's going to require some travel.:wink:
PapaBear
10-17-2011, 07:38 PM
I think you should be able to work. Im all for people getting out of jail and starting over but in this new america it seems people have to live down their mistakes forever. I dont know if he killed his friend on purpose, if it was an accident or whatever. Im guessing since he got out after 10 years it might be something other then murder 1. Even so if they felt he did his time then thats it, he should be able to get work.
.
I totally agree with your first point. My point in posting about his past was not to say he shouldn't have worked there. I'm pointing out that with someone who has a history of violent crimes, it's not surprising that he may have trouble acting in a reasonable manor to defend himself when attacked. As a bartender, I was attacked behind the bar by a guy twice my size. Once I had control of him, the thought crossed my mind to slam his face down on the steel corner of a cooler. But then I realized, as pissed as I was, I didn't want to kill him.
StanUpshaw
10-17-2011, 07:43 PM
Here's the 2000 shooting: (http://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/05/nyregion/man-is-charged-in-mall-slaying-of-schoolmate.html)
Man Is Charged In Mall Slaying Of Schoolmate
Published: January 05, 2000
A 19-year-old Bronx man was arrested today and charged with fatally shooting a schoolmate and wounding an 8-year-old passer-by at the Galleria Mall here, the authorities said.
The shooting, which took place on the main shopping floor just outside the entrance to Macy's about 6:30 p.m. on Monday, occurred in plain view of shoppers and shopkeepers.
The victim, Oshan Litchmore, 17, and the man accused of shooting him, Rayon McIntosh, were students at Evander Childs High School in the Bronx. The authorities said the two men came to the mall with a group of neighborhood friends.
''They knew each other,'' said Capt. Peter A. Viviano of the White Plains Police Department. ''They were in the mall, hanging out, walking around, getting something to eat before the shooting took place.''
Mr. McIntosh, of 720 East 216th Street, was charged with second-degree murder and first-degree assault, Captain Viviano said.
Mr. Litchmore, of 1320 Hicks Street in the Bronx, was shot once in the stomach. He died in the operating room at Westchester Medical Center about 10 p.m. on Monday.
The murder charge specifies that the shooting demonstrated ''depraved indifference to life'' rather than intentional killing, and the authorities would not say whether Mr. Litchmore was a target.
Bryan Galeano, 8, a third grader from White Plains who had come to the mall with his mother and sister, was shot in the upper right thigh. He was treated at White Plains Hospital and released, the police said. ''The bullet that went through the murder victim lodged in the thigh of the 8-year-old,'' said Jeanine F. Pirro, the Westchester district attorney.
Mr. Litchmore's mother, brother and aunt came to the Galleria this morning to see where he was shot, said a woman who works at a hair-care booth about 20 feet from the bank of pay telephones where Mr. Litchmore fell. The woman declined to give her name.
''It was tragic,'' the woman said, describing both the family's visit and the events of the evening before, which she saw. ''If I didn't run away, I might have gotten shot, too. The young boy, he just screamed blood. I felt so sorry for him.''
Though the shooting took place in front of a couple of dozen people, it was business as usual today at the mall, which is anchored by J. C. Penney's and Macy's and is about half a mile from a newer and more upscale mall rival, the Westchester.
NOTABLE: This was Westchester's first homicide of the new millennium!
TripleSkeet
10-17-2011, 07:54 PM
Considering I still bartend and I do work at a place where there are plenty of fights every week theres one major rule. You dont swing at an employee. I have seen both guys and girls get BLASTED for hitting employees.
I saw one girl bite a bouncers arm through the skin, when he pulled her off he gave her a Test-like big boot right in her face causing her to fly backwards off of a flight of 6 brick steps onto the concrete. She got arrested, he got medical treatment from a paramedic.
The point is when you decide to come behind a bar or counter in a threatening way in someones work, that person should be able to just fuck you up. I know Ive got about 30 liter bottles back there that I have no problem swinging on someone with. That being said, you cant kick people in the head when they are down. Its just dumb. Kick the ribs, the arms, or legs, but once you start kicking the head youre going to wind up looking at some kind of charges.
sailor
10-17-2011, 10:41 PM
I know Ive got about 30 liter bottles back there that I have no problem swinging on someone with.
you got some big bottles or somethin, tsss.
on a lighter note, i grew up two blocks from where the shooting victim lived. nothing shocking there.
joeyballsack
10-18-2011, 04:09 AM
Considering I still bartend and I do work at a place where there are plenty of fights every week theres one major rule. You dont swing at an employee. I have seen both guys and girls get BLASTED for hitting employees.
I saw one girl bite a bouncers arm through the skin, when he pulled her off he gave her a Test-like big boot right in her face causing her to fly backwards off of a flight of 6 brick steps onto the concrete. She got arrested, he got medical treatment from a paramedic.
The point is when you decide to come behind a bar or counter in a threatening way in someones work, that person should be able to just fuck you up. I know Ive got about 30 liter bottles back there that I have no problem swinging on someone with. That being said, you cant kick people in the head when they are down. Its just dumb. Kick the ribs, the arms, or legs, but once you start kicking the head youre going to wind up looking at some kind of charges.
That bouncer is an asshole and should probably find a new line of work before he kills or paralyzes someone.
He managed to get a job after killing someone. I can barely get any jobs after getting caught with two grams of coke. Now THAT'S retarded.
And he just got out of prison. I did my time 12 years ago.
You got your Modship. We don't judge here!
jennysmurf
10-18-2011, 11:20 AM
You got your Modship. We don't judge here!
Yes, we most certainly do judge here! Where you been?
PigShitIrish
10-19-2011, 12:39 PM
But you guys do know the McRib is back, at least in my area.
StanUpshaw
10-19-2011, 01:01 PM
But you guys do know the McRib is back, at least in my area.
Does anyone actually eat that gimmicky shit?
TripleSkeet
10-19-2011, 04:29 PM
That bouncer is an asshole and should probably find a new line of work before he kills or paralyzes someone.
Hes about 5'2 and one of the baddest kids I know. I dont see anything wrong with what he did. Girl or guy, you bite me your getting beat the fuck down.
sailor
10-20-2011, 01:27 AM
Hes about 5'2 and one of the baddest kids I know. I dont see anything wrong with what he did. Girl or guy, you bite me your getting beat the fuck down.
sure , it warranted almost killing someone.
TripleSkeet
10-20-2011, 09:14 AM
sure , it warranted almost killing someone.
You never know what kind of diseases people carry, biting is worse then swinging on someone. He only hit her once. Was he supposed to be careful enough to make sure she wasnt in harms way as shes gnawing on his fucking arm? Cops didnt think so. Like I said, she got arrested, he got a shot and a bandage.
JimBeam
10-20-2011, 09:29 AM
Convicted of a hate crime and first degree assault. Five years in prison. (http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/09/13/woman-sentenced-to-5-years-in-rosedale-transgender-attack/)
I despise the use of hate crime laws but I do love that these idiots are getting punished.
5 years is steep but if it sends a message I'm all for it.
The suit against McDonalds is lame and hopefully will get thrown out although I'm sure they'll settle.
JimBeam
10-20-2011, 09:52 AM
With regards to the recent story I don't have a huge problem with what he did.
Sure he probably shouldn't have used a weapon and should've controlled himself at some point but they were asking for it.
He was attacked and defended himself al beit somewhat over the top.
The point is if they had never jumped the counter and went after him there wouldn't have been any fractured skulls.
By the way an employye at McDonalds shouldn't exactly have the restraint of a police officer trained to deal w/ violent people.
It's not like this guy went through hours of self defense training and learned how to handle attackers w/o putting a beating on them.
WRESTLINGFAN
11-15-2011, 09:43 AM
This animal
http://gawker.com/5859588/burger-seeker-flips-out-about-mcdonalds-breakfast-menu
This animal
http://gawker.com/5859588/burger-seeker-flips-out-about-mcdonalds-breakfast-menu
http://youtu.be/L8HOaB1fOqA
cougarjake13
11-15-2011, 08:06 PM
Does anyone actually eat that gimmicky shit?
never tried it and never will
Dude!
11-22-2011, 08:05 AM
those animals are at it again:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Spring-7-Eleven-134286103.html
Jujubees2
12-05-2011, 05:27 AM
Ex-McDonald's cook who whacked two women says he's going to sue fast-food eatery (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ex-mcdonald-cook-whacked-women-sue-fast-food-eatery-article-1.986718#ixzz1ffd6RiSi)
When McIntosh questioned the validity of a $50 bill, the two women turned snarly, he said. They berated him with F-words and the N-word, spit on him and slapped him. He said they even insulted his mother.
I thought that was OK if they use it among each other.
Jujubees2
12-05-2011, 06:01 AM
I thought that was OK if they use it among each other.
I think if it was a Kennedy Fried Chicken place it would have been okay but not at McDonald's
WRESTLINGFAN
12-27-2011, 06:07 AM
These animals fight over sneakers
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I5W956OrC8k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
cougarjake13
12-27-2011, 06:15 AM
What the world coming to
hanso
12-27-2011, 06:55 AM
Ha! @ lady sayz some folks were on ground but I just jumped right over wearing my air jordans.
cougarjake13
12-27-2011, 07:43 AM
Did she also stick her tongue out?
Snacks
12-27-2011, 07:51 AM
These animals fight over sneakers
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I5W956OrC8k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
yo thats racist. posting this calling them animals? blacks in the video? this is being used as a stereo type, now if it were whites it wouldnt be racist but because its blacks its racist bro. thats not cool playing a video like that. shame on you, you know this was done purely for racism the fact that its blacks acting that way over sneakers shows you are racist!!! just because what this is a video of and that this really happened doesnt make it not racist its because blacks are in the video and then you post it makes it racist since you are white.
not cool.
yo thats racist. posting this calling them animals? blacks in the video? this is being used as a stereo type, now if it were whites it wouldnt be racist but because its blacks its racist bro. thats not cool playing a video like that. shame on you, you know this was done purely for racism the fact that its blacks acting that way over sneakers shows you are racist!!! just because what this is a video of and that this really happened doesnt make it not racist its because blacks are in the video and then you post it makes it racist since you are white.
not cool.
Whats racist is the context that WrestlingFan posted the video.
In a thread about McDonald's, WF posts a video about black people fighting over shoes then drops the "animals" statement. WF wanted us to know about these "animals" and deliberately went out of his way to make sure we knew.
If we've learned anything on this board, its that WF hates brown people that he can't fuck.
WRESTLINGFAN
12-27-2011, 08:39 AM
Anyone acting like those people are fucking animals. There's nothing racist about that. Post a video of southerners in walmart on black Friday who are white and I'll call them animals!
hanso
12-27-2011, 12:48 PM
At first I thought that also..McDonald's thread posting blacks rioting over shoes.
But after making so many threads with fancy titles. I don't think WF can find his own threads anymore to re post on.
Try to find his thread on light bulbs.
On the other hand the last things he posted on were blacks, gays and women.
At first I thought that also..McDonald's thread posting blacks rioting over shoes.
But after making so many threads with fancy titles. I don't think WF can find his own threads anymore to re post on.
Try to find his thread on light bulbs.
On the other hand the last things he posted on were blacks, gays and women.
Its hard for WF to keep his hate-speech threads straight.
hanso
12-27-2011, 01:09 PM
I posted this before I read that women's issue thread, and didn't know you two were going at it. I was gonna post a joke response maybe I should wait for the smoke to clear now.
WRESTLINGFAN
12-27-2011, 01:15 PM
I posted this before I read that women's issue thread, and didn't know you two were going at it. I was gonna post a joke response maybe I should wait for the smoke to clear now.
Was it a joke about how many people needing to screw in a lightbulb ?
hanso
12-27-2011, 01:18 PM
Was it a joke about how many people needing to screw in a lightbulb ?
No man the women firehouse deal. Guess again.
FatassTitePants
12-27-2011, 01:42 PM
Anyone acting like those people are fucking animals. There's nothing racist about that. Post a video of southerners in walmart on black Friday who are white and I'll call them animals!
I call them LSU graduates
hanso
12-28-2011, 08:39 AM
AND1 sells shoes that look like air jordans.
35$ > 180$
hanso
02-11-2012, 05:29 PM
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Evangeline Marrero Lucca, 37, pulled up to the window of the McDonald's on Legion Road, near Black and Decker Road, on Friday afternoon and held up the line for about 20 minutes before deputies arrived.
Staff at the restaurant reported that Lucca drove her Ford Taurus to the pickup window, bypassing the order screen and payment window, and tried to order her food there
Bob Impact
02-12-2012, 08:13 AM
At what point did it become OK for police to taze someone for refusing to comply with orders? I thought they were only allowed to taze if they feel they or the public are in danger? This woman is an ass but not threatening based on the article.
Chigworthy
02-12-2012, 07:30 PM
At what point did it become OK for police to taze someone for refusing to comply with orders? I thought they were only allowed to taze if they feel they or the public are in danger? This woman is an ass but not threatening based on the article.
Every department has slightly different use of force policies.
I guess the hardest thing for most people to understand with these kinds of situations is how easy it is to get severely injured by an emotionally disturbed person. I'm not saying that the woman in the car posed a deadly threat, but trying to pull someone who is combative out of a vehicle poses several issues.
Pulling a flailing person out any way can severely injure an officer's back, and the person has a strong power base when they are planted in a seat. In terms of physical alteration, power base refers to the dramatic increase in force a person can deploy when a significant portion of their body is braced against an immovable object. People sitting and laying on the ground have a tremendous power base if their limbs are in the appropriate spot. This is one of the reasons why when a subject is proned out on the ground, they are usually made to cross their ankles as it tangles up their legs and limits their capability to push off of the ground.
It is also the reason why subjects are proned out on their stomach. A person laying on their back can inflict severe injury with kicks because their entire body is braced on the ground. Whereas a person standing and throwing a kick has a power base limited to their support leg. You can see this in MMA a lot, where a downed fighter can fight a standing opponent from their back effectively by throwing kicks. The same capability is present in someone who is being pulled feet first out of a vehicle, which is a bad spot for an officer to be. Sure, if someone throws a kick at you from a car seat, you might be able grab their feet and yank them out. The problem there is that you end up cracking their head on the pavement, which is not good. The Taser allows them to subdue the subject without having to fight. If 3-4 officers fought this woman without the Taser, both her and the officers likely would have sustained injuries. This isn't Hollywood where people can beat the shit out of each other and then go to the bar for beers after work. Most fights that officers get into result in injuries.
Some other things to consider with this particular video: We have no idea what happened before the clip, which starts just seconds before the taser is deployed. Also, an emotionally disturbed person is dangerous on their own, but when they are in their own vehicle, the possibility that their are weapons or other dangerous objects within reach of the subject always weighs heavily on the officer's mind, as that is how officers go home in body bags.
I'm not going to say that this video doesn't look bad. But these types of situations don't usually present a solution that will look good in a 30 second youtube clip. The bottom line is that as soon as the property manager is willing to citizen's arrest on the trespassing charge against the woman, the officers are now duty bound to arrest the woman and remove her from the premises. Generally, a dolt that thinks it is acceptable to bitch out about their fast food order and block a drive through for 20 minutes is not going to go with the officers peacefully; they are already disturbed beyond reason at that particular moment. You said that she was not threatening based on the article. I don't know how a woman with a 3 year old child who cuts in a drive through line and then refuses to leave, and then refuses to comply with the police who are completely in the right is not threatening.
As the witness quoted in the article said, the woman refused verbal orders to exit her vehicle, and then physically resisted two attempts by the officers to remove her. At that point, what would you have the officers do? Physically fight the woman inside the vehicle with the possibility of unknown weapons and a 3 year old child? Or drive stun her for 5-10 seconds and remove her without any damage to her, her child, her property, or the officers?
Snacks
02-12-2012, 07:45 PM
At what point did it become OK for police to taze someone for refusing to comply with orders? I thought they were only allowed to taze if they feel they or the public are in danger? This woman is an ass but not threatening based on the article.
and at what point is it ok for cops to tell someone to put their camera down? notice at the very end he is walking towards the camera and says "mam put the camera..." then the video stops.
and at what point is it ok for cops to tell someone to put their camera down? notice at the very end he is walking towards the camera and says "mam put the camera..." then the video stops.
There's a pretty good guide to your rights here:
http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf
Basically, the cops can't ever prevent you from filming or taking photos short of things that are sensitive -- bridges, power plants and other stuff that could be considered terrorist targets. They can ask you to back away to a safe distance but that's it. There are local laws that may prevent it, but it looks like the judiciary branch is having none of that and are striking down the laws left and right since being a cop doesn't give you any extra expected privacy in public.
Which, of course, is good because it shows how cops stopped giving a fuck about protecting the public are only in it to protect themselves. All part of the paramilitarizing of the police force. We're not that far from shitting all over the Posse Comitatus Act and creating a gendarmerie in the US since both sides of the aisle all too happy to fork over citizens rights for the sake of appearing "tough on crime".
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