Jeters 3000th hit

[Tenbatsuzen]

Putting some petty childhood dream meeting over setting yourself up to have a much easier life will always make you a dipshit in my book. Like I said, if the guy was already rich it would be different. Hes not only not rich hes in debt up to his eyebrows.

Which is pretty much the reason I flipped my opinion on him. You don't have to be *rich* to be happy, but having your finances under control is a better situation than being in crazy debt that doesn't go away.

I basically formulated that in order for me to give up the ball, my kid would have to be taken care of.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yet there were several people who openly stated that they didn't like the decision.

Does he think he and his wrinkled suit from 1987 overshadows the actual thoughts and words of others ?

I never really hated Selig before, in fact I for the most point ignored him, but now I despise him.

When ESPN has a clip from a "MLB Official" - nameless, no less - then yes, Selig has to come forward and say something.

You don't "openly state" something if you use a shroud of anonymity.

Anyone else who criticized Jeter was a sports talking head.

[JimBeam]

Didn't Tulowitzky ( sp ??? ) and Berkman say something ?

I'm not sure for a fact but I know that they mentioned that some front office guy, and actually said who he was, made a negative comment about it.

[JimBeam]

Miller High Life Offers To Pay Fan's Potential Tax Bill

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43740575

I'd rather they give the money to the vets the same way they suposedly do when I turn in my bottle caps.

[underdog]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/43740575

I'd rather they give the money to the vets the same way they suposedly do when I turn in my bottle caps.

Wouldn't he then have to pay taxes on the money they give him?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Didn't Tulowitzky ( sp ??? ) and Berkman say something ?

I'm not sure for a fact but I know that they mentioned that some front office guy, and actually said who he was, made a negative comment about it.

Berkman's quote begins:

I don't think it's my place to speak for others

and here's the rest of the story:

"Derek Jeter has done everything right during his whole career," a major-league official told the Daily News Monday. "He was wrong on this one. This could have been a celebration of his 3,000th hit. He didn't have to play."

The official said MLB was hoping Jeter would fly out Tuesday, appear on the field during player introductions, tip his cap and then return to New York. According to sources, even Jeter's former manager, Joe Torre, couldn't convince him to pick the desert over South Beach.

While officials and some players, including former teammate Lance Berkman and the Mets' Carlos Beltran felt Jeter should be in Arizona, others, including Boston's Kevin Youkilis and Colorado shortsop Troy Tulowitzki - who grew up idolizing Jeter - gave him a break.

"Derek has been here so many times and has been so great for the game, for people to be upset with Derek Jeter, they should be embracing what he just did," Youkilis said. "This could be a good time for him to appreciate and celebrate with his family, because there's not a lot of time for that."

[Snoogans]

Wouldn't he then have to pay taxes on the money they give him?

yea, they would have to give him like 5 or 7 grand, something like that, over what it will be to have it even off the new taxes too

[JimBeam]

And so any suggestion that I, or anybody else, is unhappy with him about not being here is just false.

So still he's saying that nobody is unhappy about it but clearly Berkman had an issue ( and chose not to dwell on it ) as did Beltran.

So that's far from " anybody " not being unhappy about it.

[JimBeam]

yea, they would have to give him like 5 or 7 grand, something like that, over what it will be to have it even off the new taxes too

But again what if they just paid the tax bill itself ?

Don't give the guy the money, just pay it for him.

No gift transaction there so it shouldn't be subject to any additional taxes.

The IRS shouldn't care where the money comes from as long as the fee is assessed.

But like I said who knows what they hell they think sometimes.

[Tenbatsuzen]

So still he's saying that nobody is unhappy about it but clearly Berkman had an issue ( and chose not to dwell on it ) as did Beltran.

So that's far from " anybody " not being unhappy about it.

I think he was talking about the MLB organization, not players. Because the ESPN quote was coming from a nameless MLB official, which presents the image that MLB was pissed at him.

[Snoogans]

But again what if they just paid the tax bill itself ?

Don't give the guy the money, just pay it for him.

No gift transaction there so it shouldn't be subject to any additional taxes.

The IRS shouldn't care where the money comes from as long as the fee is assessed.

But like I said who knows what they hell they think sometimes.

its his tax bill, so technically, you are giving him the money to pay it.

[Snacks]

Berkman's quote begins:

I don't think it's my place to speak for others

and here's the rest of the story:

"Derek Jeter has done everything right during his whole career," a major-league official told the Daily News Monday. "He was wrong on this one. This could have been a celebration of his 3,000th hit. He didn't have to play."

The official said MLB was hoping Jeter would fly out Tuesday, appear on the field during player introductions, tip his cap and then return to New York. According to sources, even Jeter's former manager, Joe Torre, couldn't convince him to pick the desert over South Beach.

While officials and some players, including former teammate Lance Berkman and the Mets' Carlos Beltran felt Jeter should be in Arizona, others, including Boston's Kevin Youkilis and Colorado shortsop Troy Tulowitzki - who grew up idolizing Jeter - gave him a break.

"Derek has been here so many times and has been so great for the game, for people to be upset with Derek Jeter, they should be embracing what he just did," Youkilis said. "This could be a good time for him to appreciate and celebrate with his family, because there's not a lot of time for that."

...and yet every time jeter doesnt do the right thing they say the same thing. This isnt the 1st time jeter was all about him. He has always been selfish. I will go back to ARod coming to the yanks. Jeter as "the captain" should have offered to move because the best overall ss in baseball history was coming to the team. You add this to all the other things that are brought up and you see that he isnt what the media and yanks fans make him out to be.

But again what if they just paid the tax bill itself ?

Don't give the guy the money, just pay it for him.

No gift transaction there so it shouldn't be subject to any additional taxes.

The IRS shouldn't care where the money comes from as long as the fee is assessed.

But like I said who knows what they hell they think sometimes.

Either way he would be benefiting from the money so he would owe taxes for that as well. Basically to do this and pay no taxes the cash gift would have to be enough to pay for the seats and the cash. So if they were going to pay $15k for the taxes they would have to give him about $5k more to cover that 15 so they would have to give him a total of $20k. Thats my understanding.

[Tenbatsuzen]

...and yet every time jeter doesnt do the right thing they say the same thing. This isnt the 1st time jeter was all about him. He has always been selfish. I will go back to ARod coming to the yanks. Jeter as "the captain" should have offered to move because the best overall ss in baseball history was coming to the team. You add this to all the other things that are brought up and you see that he isnt what the media and yanks fans make him out to be.


That's a no-win situation and you know it. If A-Rod displaces Jeter, "the Captain", then people flip the fuck out because the person who's done a good job in that position and is the "heart and soul" of the Yankees is being replaced by a player who is the same age. The Yankee org looks like assholes for pushing Jeter out of the way, especially since A-Rod's PR at the time wasn't the best in the world. And if A-Rods shenanigans continued (the cheating, the divorce, the roids) people would get more pissed that Jeter was pushed out at SS.

The Yankees did the best job they could to acquire A-Rod and also save face inside the organization for both Jeter and A-Rod. By doing this, they help A-Rod look like a team player and Jeter not look like damaged goods.

You are forgetting that the problem the Yankees had was at 3B, not SS. Mind you, Jeter won gold gloves at SS when A-Rod went to 3B, so the defensive stats you are talking about are negligible at best.


The Yankees acquired A-Rod for his offensive presence, not his glove.

[TripleSkeet]

That's a no-win situation and you know it. If A-Rod displaces Jeter, "the Captain", then people flip the fuck out because the person who's done a good job in that position and is the "heart and soul" of the Yankees is being replaced by a player who is the same age. The Yankee org looks like assholes for pushing Jeter out of the way, especially since A-Rod's PR at the time wasn't the best in the world. And if A-Rods shenanigans continued (the cheating, the divorce, the roids) people would get more pissed that Jeter was pushed out at SS.

The Yankees did the best job they could to acquire A-Rod and also save face inside the organization for both Jeter and A-Rod. By doing this, they help A-Rod look like a team player and Jeter not look like damaged goods.

You are forgetting that the problem the Yankees had was at 3B, not SS. Mind you, Jeter won gold gloves at SS when A-Rod went to 3B, so the defensive stats you are talking about are negligible at best.


The Yankees acquired A-Rod for his offensive presence, not his glove.

ARod is still the best shortstop on the team.

[Snacks]

That's a no-win situation and you know it. If A-Rod displaces Jeter, "the Captain", then people flip the fuck out because the person who's done a good job in that position and is the "heart and soul" of the Yankees is being replaced by a player who is the same age. The Yankee org looks like assholes for pushing Jeter out of the way, especially since A-Rod's PR at the time wasn't the best in the world. And if A-Rods shenanigans continued (the cheating, the divorce, the roids) people would get more pissed that Jeter was pushed out at SS.

The Yankees did the best job they could to acquire A-Rod and also save face inside the organization for both Jeter and A-Rod. By doing this, they help A-Rod look like a team player and Jeter not look like damaged goods.

You are forgetting that the problem the Yankees had was at 3B, not SS. Mind you, Jeter won gold gloves at SS when A-Rod went to 3B, so the defensive stats you are talking about are negligible at best.


The Yankees acquired A-Rod for his offensive presence, not his glove.

Jeter won a gg last year and sure as fuck didnt deserve it. He had so little E because he didnt go after balls so they didnt counts a E's!

[Snacks]

ARod is still the best shortstop on the team.

Nunez is the 2nd best on the team!

[Snoogans]

Pena is my favorite SS on the team, for whatever thats worth

[ihaveabadmonkey]

maybe he knew what he was doing.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6765849/companies-line-help-new-york-yankees-fan-christian-lopez

[Tenbatsuzen]

Nunez is the 2nd best on the team!

This is the second time you've said this and it just proves that you earn that disability check each time.

He has 9 errors at short in 29 games this year.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jeter won a gg last year and sure as fuck didnt deserve it. He had so little E because he didnt go after balls so they didnt counts a E's!

OK, last year was 2010 - a full seven seasons after they acquired A-rod. Most sane Yankee fans agree that he didn't deserve the GG last year, but we're discussing the metrics of back in 2004/2005/2006.

[Tenbatsuzen]

maybe he knew what he was doing.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6765849/companies-line-help-new-york-yankees-fan-christian-lopez

This is kind of what I was talking about movie deals and other shit to help out. Whenever someone does the "right thing", "Samaritans" line up to give money to get free publicity. Donald Trump does shit like this all time. Of course, there's no guarantees on stuff like this, but it happens.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I think a world series ring and your own baseball card is pretty cool considering most people would blow through the cash right away.

[Tenbatsuzen]

ARod is still the best shortstop on the team.

A position he last played 8 years ago.

Average A-Rod Fielding Percentage 1996-2003: .979.
Average A-Rod Errors Per Season 1996-2003: 14.625

Average Jeter Fielding Percentage 1996-2003: .974
Average Jeter Errors Per Season 1996-2003: 16.25

So yeah, A-Rod was the better defensive shortstop - but just barely.

[Snacks]

maybe he knew what he was doing.


http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6765849/companies-line-help-new-york-yankees-fan-christian-lopez

This kid is an idiot. He didnt even expect this from the IRS? I knew about this way before I was 23. He seems like a dumb, naive man to me. He sounded terrible with his um, um, um every other word.

Lets be real, companies shouldn't be lining up, Jeter who is a multi hundred millionaire should be doing for this kid. No one else!

A position he last played 8 years ago.

Average A-Rod Fielding Percentage 1996-2003: .979.
Average A-Rod Errors Per Season 1996-2003: 14.625

Average Jeter Fielding Percentage 1996-2003: .974
Average Jeter Errors Per Season 1996-2003: 16.25

So yeah, A-Rod was the better defensive shortstop - but just barely.

As with many of Jeter hits, he always got the home town calls and errors he made were sometimes called on the other players. I have witnessed many times he got a hit when the fielder made and error and I have witnessed many times the runner got a hit on his error or the 1b/2b got the errors on this error. ARod is 10 times the ss Jeter ever was!

[JimBeam]

A position he last played 8 years ago.

Average A-Rod Fielding Percentage 1996-2003: .979.
Average A-Rod Errors Per Season 1996-2003: 14.625

Average Jeter Fielding Percentage 1996-2003: .974
Average Jeter Errors Per Season 1996-2003: 16.25

So yeah, A-Rod was the better defensive shortstop - but just barely.

You've got to look at chances and see who was better.

You could put Ozzie Smith's numbers next to Kevin Elster's and say " Hey look, Elster only made 2 more errors than Smith. "

But when you figure that Ozzie probably had 700 chances to Elsters 550 it's not as simple.

Now I don't thinl Rodriguez is Smith to Jeter's Elster but I bet Rodriguez had more chances.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You've got to look at chances and see who was better.

You could put Ozzie Smith's numbers next to Kevin Elster's and say " Hey look, Elster only made 2 more errors than Smith. "

But when you figure that Ozzie probably had 700 chances to Elsters 550 it's not as simple.

Now I don't thinl Rodriguez is Smith to Jeter's Elster but I bet Rodriguez had more chances.

688 to 614 chance average, but Jeter was also injured for a big chunk of 2003 which throws the average off.

So again, you can say that A-Rod *WAS* (past tense) a better short stop but it's marginal, especially given the PR nightmare the Yankees would have been thrust into if they forced Jeter out at SS.

[Dirtbag]

Jeter won a gg last year and sure as fuck didnt deserve it. He had so little E because he didnt go after balls so they didnt counts a E's!

This is why I don't understand why so many people want fan voting removed from the All-Star selection. The writers are every bit as stupid.

[JimBeam]

688 to 614 chance average, but Jeter was also injured for a big chunk of 2003 which throws the average off.

So again, you can say that A-Rod *WAS* (past tense) a better short stop but it's marginal, especially given the PR nightmare the Yankees would have been thrust into if they forced Jeter out at SS.

But doesn't that in itself show that Jeter wasn't the " stand up man " and " captain " that everybody makes him out to be ( and that Torre wasn't the manipulator of personalities we've been hoodwinked into believing ) ?

Regardless of the numbers analysis it was fairly well known that most people in baseball believed Rodriguez to be the better option at SS.

Chipper Jones was asked to move to the OF so that Vinny Castiilo could play 3rd. Jones was loved in Atlanta and could've been a bitch but he did what was best ( as Smoltz did when he went from starting to closing ).

[Tenbatsuzen]

But doesn't that in itself show that Jeter wasn't the " stand up man " and " captain " that everybody makes him out to be ( and that Torre wasn't the manipulator of personalities we've been hoodwinked into believing ) ?

Regardless of the numbers analysis it was fairly well known that most people in baseball believed Rodriguez to be the better option at SS.

Chipper Jones was asked to move to the OF so that Vinny Castiilo could play 3rd. Jones was loved in Atlanta and could've been a bitch but he did what was best ( as Smoltz did when he went from starting to closing ).

The flip side, as I said to that, is that A-Rod has long been seen as a fucking weirdo, me-first kind of guy. Yankee fans still haven't fully accepted him, even after winning a championship (But I think it's gone from 50% acceptance to a begrdugingly 75% acceptance)

Remember when LaTroy Hawkins was wearing O'Neill's number? And that was just a number and he was freaking BRUTALIZED for it. I can't even imagine how badly the shit would have hit the fan if a guy like A-Rod came in and took over.

Jeter was STILL in the prime of his career when A-Rod came to the Yankees. And he won a shit-ton of gold gloves. Was that because A-Rod was at third? Probably. But asking the 2nd or 3rd best SS who is already established in that position to move for a guy who wasn't (and I'm going to get killed for saying this) a "true Yankee" is the PR issue.

If Jeter was a sub-standard SS I could see where people were coming from. But A-Rod was marginally better. And they had a hole at 3B, and A-Rod was willing to make the move.

[JimBeam]

That's all possible but I still think it was somewhat selfish on Jeter's part.

The fans would've loved him more if he did it.

[spoon]

Berkman's quote begins:

I don't think it's my place to speak for others

and here's the rest of the story:

"Derek Jeter has done everything right during his whole career," a major-league official told the Daily News Monday. "He was wrong on this one. This could have been a celebration of his 3,000th hit. He didn't have to play."

The official said MLB was hoping Jeter would fly out Tuesday, appear on the field during player introductions, tip his cap and then return to New York. According to sources, even Jeter's former manager, Joe Torre, couldn't convince him to pick the desert over South Beach.

While officials and some players, including former teammate Lance Berkman and the Mets' Carlos Beltran felt Jeter should be in Arizona, others, including Boston's Kevin Youkilis and Colorado shortsop Troy Tulowitzki - who grew up idolizing Jeter - gave him a break.

"Derek has been here so many times and has been so great for the game, for people to be upset with Derek Jeter, they should be embracing what he just did," Youkilis said. "This could be a good time for him to appreciate and celebrate with his family, because there's not a lot of time for that."

one mistake! HA!

oh and nice, the two mlb jeter fanboys "gave him a break"! yes, they did, but giving a break for what? fuckinging up?

"not a lot of time for that"? He's not even married, has no kids and will have the rest of his life to do it while he spends his millions and become an awful YES broadcaster. Not to mention I guess having off from November to March isn't enough time. Poor MLB millionaire. Take your fucking name OFF the ballet if you have no interest. If you don't fucking at least show, you never get on it again! That's my call, with the only exception being something REALLY serious. Sorry, Youk sounds like a fool as well.

[spoon]

That's a no-win situation and you know it. If A-Rod displaces Jeter, "the Captain", then people flip the fuck out because the person who's done a good job in that position and is the "heart and soul" of the Yankees is being replaced by a player who is the same age. The Yankee org looks like assholes for pushing Jeter out of the way, especially since A-Rod's PR at the time wasn't the best in the world. And if A-Rods shenanigans continued (the cheating, the divorce, the roids) people would get more pissed that Jeter was pushed out at SS.

The Yankees did the best job they could to acquire A-Rod and also save face inside the organization for both Jeter and A-Rod. By doing this, they help A-Rod look like a team player and Jeter not look like damaged goods.

You are forgetting that the problem the Yankees had was at 3B, not SS. Mind you, Jeter won gold gloves at SS when A-Rod went to 3B, so the defensive stats you are talking about are negligible at best.


The Yankees acquired A-Rod for his offensive presence, not his glove.

Wonder boy won a fucking gold glove last year, point not taken. Suckssssssss.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wonder boy won a fucking gold glove last year, point not taken. Suckssssssss.

I said he didn't deserve it last year.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Here's what I don't get about the Jeter butt-hurt.

1) Most people say with Jeter's current stats, he didn't deserve to be an All-Star.

2) Most of the people who voted Jeter in are Yankee fans, and probably see him play every day anyway.

3) The argument that he should show up to tip his cap to the fans in attendance - All of the Yankees who were introduced last night were solidly booed, I would say even more so than the Dodgers and the Giants who are the D-Backs main rivals. So you wanted Jeter, who is still recovering from an injury, to spend 9 hours in a plane just to get booed on National TV? Never mind the fact that Jeter probably wouldn't really like going back to the site of his biggest professional disappointment if there was nothing in it for him.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. If he plays, he doesn't deserve to be there. But he doesn't go, and people shit bricks.

And for what it's worth, Minka has a 13-episode commitment for Charlie's Angels in the fall, so she'll still be working even when he's off.

[foodcourtdruide]

You are forgetting that the problem the Yankees had was at 3B, not SS. Mind you, Jeter won gold gloves at SS when A-Rod went to 3B, so the defensive stats you are talking about are negligible at best.



What does this mean? What does anyone winning a GG ever have to do with anything? GG's are popularity contests. A-Rod was a better SS than Jeter, even at the time. I always thought the reason A-Rod moved to 3B is because he is a better athlete than Jeter and would have had an easier time with the position change.

[Dirtbag]

3) The argument that he should show up to tip his cap to the fans in attendance - All of the Yankees who were introduced last night were solidly booed, I would say even more so than the Dodgers and the Giants who are the D-Backs main rivals. So you wanted Jeter, who is still recovering from an injury, to spend 9 hours in a plane just to get booed on National TV? Never mind the fact that Jeter probably wouldn't really like going back to the site of his biggest professional disappointment if there was nothing in it for him.
Arizona fans are still riding high from the 2001 World Series. Not only is this the 10th anniversary, but its still the pinnacle of sports for this state. We're going to let the Yankees have it till the end of time. Prince Fielder, up until the point he won the game for the NL, was getting the majority of the boos anyway cause he didn't pick Upton for the HR Derby.

[brettmojo]

Here's what I don't get about the Jeter butt-hurt.

1) Most people say with Jeter's current stats, he didn't deserve to be an All-Star.

2) Most of the people who voted Jeter in are Yankee fans, and probably see him play every day anyway.

3) The argument that he should show up to tip his cap to the fans in attendance - All of the Yankees who were introduced last night were solidly booed, I would say even more so than the Dodgers and the Giants who are the D-Backs main rivals. So you wanted Jeter, who is still recovering from an injury, to spend 9 hours in a plane just to get booed on National TV? Never mind the fact that Jeter probably wouldn't really like going back to the site of his biggest professional disappointment if there was nothing in it for him.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. If he plays, he doesn't deserve to be there. But he doesn't go, and people shit bricks.

And for what it's worth, Minka has a 13-episode commitment for Charlie's Angels in the fall, so she'll still be working even when he's off.
Everyone outside of NY hates Derek Jeter. That's a fact. He should have flown to Arizona with his non-all star stats and tipped his cap to people who hate him so he could fly back to NY and then fly to Toronto for tomorrow night's game. Who cares if he's coming off the DL that was less than a week before the all star break. He needs to make the people who hate him happy. That's his first priority. He shouldn't be concerned with being healthy for his team the second half of the season, it's not like anyone ever gets hurt at the all star game!

[spoon]

This is the second time you've said this and it just proves that you earn that disability check each time.

He has 9 errors at short in 29 games this year.

Yes, like he said, better than Jeter.

[spoon]

Everyone outside of NY hates Derek Jeter. That's a fact. He should have flown to Arizona with his non-all star stats and tipped his cap to people who hate him so he could fly back to NY and then fly to Toronto for tomorrow night's game. Who cares if he's coming off the DL that was less than a week before the all star break. He needs to make the people who hate him happy. That's his first priority. He shouldn't be concerned with being healthy for his team the second half of the season, it's not like anyone ever gets hurt at the all star game!

So he's a pussy and shouldn't keep his name on the ballot. Fraud

[Tenbatsuzen]

Arizona fans are still riding high from the 2001 World Series. Not only is this the 10th anniversary, but its still the pinnacle of sports for this state. We're going to let the Yankees have it till the end of time. Prince Fielder, up until the point he won the game for the NL, was getting the majority of the boos anyway cause he didn't pick Upton for the HR Derby.

i have no quarrel with that. I've said many times before that the 2001 World Series is my absolute lowest point of being a sports fan. It was one of the biggest roller coasters I've ever seen.

*hands Spoon a barf bag*

If the Yankees had won the 2001 World Series, forget being legends. The entire team would be immortals.

[Dirtbag]

It seems odd to me that Yankee fans even remember that. Arizona is one for four in real championships in the history of the state. Averaged out, the Yankees win a World Series like every 4 years.

[Snoogans]

Here's what I don't get about the Jeter butt-hurt.

1) Most people say with Jeter's current stats, he didn't deserve to be an All-Star.

2) Most of the people who voted Jeter in are Yankee fans, and probably see him play every day anyway.

3) The argument that he should show up to tip his cap to the fans in attendance - All of the Yankees who were introduced last night were solidly booed, I would say even more so than the Dodgers and the Giants who are the D-Backs main rivals. So you wanted Jeter, who is still recovering from an injury, to spend 9 hours in a plane just to get booed on National TV? Never mind the fact that Jeter probably wouldn't really like going back to the site of his biggest professional disappointment if there was nothing in it for him.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. If he plays, he doesn't deserve to be there. But he doesn't go, and people shit bricks.

And for what it's worth, Minka has a 13-episode commitment for Charlie's Angels in the fall, so she'll still be working even when he's off.

9 hours in a plane to arizona? Who the fuck is flying him, the wright brothers?

[spoon]

9 hours in a plane to arizona? Who the fuck is flying him, the wright brothers?

AHahahahahaha!

I'm sooo pissed I missed that one!


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Tenbatsuzen]

It seems odd to me that Yankee fans even remember that. Arizona is one for three in real championships in the history of the state. Averaged out, the Yankees win a World Series like every 4 years.

The most memorable home run Mike Piazza ever hit was the 1 to beat the Braves when baseball resumed after 9/11. After a few years of just demolishing teams in the world series, an evenly fought, back and forth word series with those comebacks by the Yankees would have made it one for the New York ages - if the Yankees had won it.

[spoon]

Here's what I don't get about the Jeter butt-hurt.

1) Most people say with Jeter's current stats, he didn't deserve to be an All-Star.

2) Most of the people who voted Jeter in are Yankee fans, and probably see him play every day anyway.

3) The argument that he should show up to tip his cap to the fans in attendance - All of the Yankees who were introduced last night were solidly booed, I would say even more so than the Dodgers and the Giants who are the D-Backs main rivals. So you wanted Jeter, who is still recovering from an injury, to spend 9 hours in a plane just to get booed on National TV? Never mind the fact that Jeter probably wouldn't really like going back to the site of his biggest professional disappointment if there was nothing in it for him.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. If he plays, he doesn't deserve to be there. But he doesn't go, and people shit bricks.

And for what it's worth, Minka has a 13-episode commitment for Charlie's Angels in the fall, so she'll still be working even when he's off.

9 hours in a plane to arizona? Who the fuck is flying him, the wright brothers?

The most memorable home run Mike Piazza ever hit was the 1 to beat the Braves when baseball resumed after 9/11. After a few years of just demolishing teams in the world series, an evenly fought, back and forth word series with those comebacks by the Yankees would have made it one for the New York ages - if the Yankees had won it.

:wallbash:

on soooo many levels

[Tenbatsuzen]

9 hours in a plane to arizona? Who the fuck is flying him, the wright brothers?

5 hours there, 4 hours back.

[Snoogans]

5 hours there, 4 hours back.

dont try to save it now, thats not what you said

[Tenbatsuzen]

dont try to save it now, thats not what you said

I said 9 hours on a plane. Did you expect him to stay in Phoenix?

EDIT: I think I can safely say that I'm probably the person who's taken the NYC-PHX trip the most in this thread so please don't act like I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Sinestro]

The most memorable home run Mike Piazza ever hit was the 1 to beat the Braves when baseball resumed after 9/11. After a few years of just demolishing teams in the world series, an evenly fought, back and forth word series with those comebacks by the Yankees would have made it one for the New York ages - if the Yankees had won it.

Do they even rebroadcast those games on the YES network? Most of the games they show, the Yankees win. I didn't know they lost that one.

[Snoogans]

I said 9 hours on a plane. Did you expect him to stay in Phoenix?

EDIT: I think I can safely say that I'm probably the person who's taken the NYC-PHX trip the most in this thread so please don't act like I don't know what I'm talking about.

actually you said he would have to spend 9 hours in a plane (not on, you said in, if we are gettin technical) to go get booed. it implied thats how long it would take him to get there. You fucked up, its ok. It happens

[cougarjake13]

It seems odd to me that Yankee fans even remember that. Arizona is one for four in real championships in the history of the state. Averaged out, the Yankees win a World Series like every 4 years.

d-backs win
suns lost
cardinals lost


what is the other 1 ??




ah nvr mind suns lost in 70s to celtics

[Snoogans]

d-backs win
suns lost
cardinals lost


what is the other 1 ??




ah nvr mind suns lost in 70s to celtics

coyotes?

[cougarjake13]

coyotes?

nah they nvr made it to finals


it was the suns first nba appearance ie 70s

[Sinestro]

d-backs win
suns lost
cardinals lost


what is the other 1 ??




ah nvr mind suns lost in 70s to celtics


Phoniex Mercury

[cougarjake13]

Phoniex Mercury

cmon u cant count that

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Come on now, Get off capt Clutchs case already. He was exhausted and overstressed about getting 3000. People were throwing debris at him and calling him the N word.

Oh wait. he had more important things to do like fuck his Girlfriend, to hell with the fans





http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Derek-Jeter-Minka-Kelly-in-Miami-Celebrating-3000th-Hit/136991.html

[Snoogans]

Come on now, Get off capt Clutchs case already. He was exhausted and overstressed about getting 3000. People were throwing debris at him and calling him the N word.

Oh wait. he had more important things to do like fuck his Girlfriend, to hell with the fans





http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Derek-Jeter-Minka-Kelly-in-Miami-Celebrating-3000th-Hit/136991.html

in fairness, it had to be exhausting getting 3000 hits in one season. I think i would need time off from that too. Its not like he is mentally exhausted from something that happened over the course of 17 years or anything where it shouldnt make him ANY MORE FUCKIN TIRED THAN HE WOULD NORMALLY BE

what a fuckin pussy this guy is

[Snoogans]

there is one other thing i need to add. Take out of the argument the parts about traveling to arizona. Regardless if traveling would add to the fatigue of it, lets not act like jeter left yankee stadium sunday, drove to wherever his apartment is in NYC, and then sat there for 3 days resting. Im sure he went, packed, and GOT ON A PLANE TO FLY TO SOME TROPICAL CLIMATE PLACE TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE A VACATION. THE SAME THING GOING TO ARIZONA WOULDA BEEN AFTER THE 30 MINUTES OF STANDING ON THE FIELD.

In fact, he definately did, he went to Miami (http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Derek-Jeter-Minka-Kelly-in-Miami-Celebrating-3000th-Hit/136991.html)

I know the flight is half as long, but still, he traveled just the fuckin same. Why couldnt he and minka fly to fuckin arizona, let him go tip his cap pre game, then he runs down, changes, and him, minka and Justin Timberlake hang out and get drunk in the pool with Mark Grace?

[Sinestro]

there is one other thing i need to add. Take out of the argument the parts about traveling to arizona. Regardless if traveling would add to the fatigue of it, lets not act like jeter left yankee stadium sunday, drove to wherever his apartment is in NYC, and then sat there for 3 days resting. Im sure he went, packed, and GOT ON A PLANE TO FLY TO SOME TROPICAL CLIMATE PLACE TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE A VACATION. THE SAME THING GOING TO ARIZONA WOULDA BEEN AFTER THE 30 MINUTES OF STANDING ON THE FIELD.

In fact, he definately did, he went to Miami (http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Derek-Jeter-Minka-Kelly-in-Miami-Celebrating-3000th-Hit/136991.html)

I know the flight is half as long, but still, he traveled just the fuckin same. Why couldnt he and minka fly to fuckin arizona, let him go tip his cap pre game, then he runs down, changes, and him, minka and Justin Timberlake hang out and get drunk in the pool with Mark Grace?

And we know he dosen't fly coach. Does he?

[Sinestro]

Why couldnt he and minka fly to fuckin arizona, let him go tip his cap pre game, then he runs down, changes, and him, minka and Justin Timberlake hang out and get drunk in the pool with Mark Grace?

Cuz Modell's doesn't have stores there to hack his 3000 hit memoribilia shirts?

[Tenbatsuzen]

get drunk in the pool with Mark Grace?

...the same Mark Grace who asked a bewildered Robinson Cano "what it will take to catch the Red Sox?"

You know, the same team that the Yankees are a staggering one game behind of?

[Snoogans]

...the same Mark Grace who asked a bewildered Robinson Cano "what it will take to catch the Red Sox?"

You know, the same team that the Yankees are a staggering one game behind of?

what a perfect kinda guy to get drunk with it seems to me

[Justice4all]

I can't believe the stupidity I'm reading here. Jesus you all make my head hurt.

[keithy_19]

I don't really care that he didn't go to the allstar game. I just think it's a big non-issue.

[sailor]

I don't really care that he didn't go to the allstar game. I just think it's a big non-issue.

absolutely

[spoon]

If justice's head hurts u all know we're right. Facts hurt his wittle head.

[A.J.]

in fairness, it had to be exhausting getting 3000 hits in one season. I think i would need time off from that too. Its not like he is mentally exhausted from something that happened over the course of 17 years or anything where it shouldnt make him ANY MORE FUCKIN TIRED THAN HE WOULD NORMALLY BE

what a fuckin pussy this guy is

And you'd think he'd enjoy the receiving the extra hype and attention that should have come with him being the first guy (I believe) to collect 3,000th hit right before the All-Star game.

It's an All-Star BREAK. He didn't have to play, he could still have rested. This year, he was elected as a starter on reputation alone and to blow it off the with the lame excuse he gave is a slap in the face to guys who maybe get there once in their careers if they're lucky (see Tim Wakefield 2 years ago). So much for Jeter's "Decision".

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A bunch of sports merchandise outlets are helping out with the tax bill. Steiner is also giving 5% of sales to Lopez. Everything said about Jeter being a fraud and only out for himself has been proven true.

On day 1 of this whole tax issue Jeter could have written out a check and cleared everything

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/14/nyregion/sporting-goods-vendors-to-ease-yankees-fans-debts.html?_r=2&smid=tw-nytimes&seid=auto

[Earlshog]

If justice's head hurts u all know we're right. Facts hurt his wittle head.

lol thats the .net litmus test

[JimBeam]

I can't believe the stupidity I'm reading here. Jesus you all make my head hurt.

It must be because we don't agree that the Yankees are the greatest thing to ever happen to sports and that any accomplishment, no matter where it falls in the history of MLB, is magnified 1000x when you're a Yankee.

[JimBeam]

Here's what I don't get about the Jeter butt-hurt.

1) Most people say with Jeter's current stats, he didn't deserve to be an All-Star.

2) Most of the people who voted Jeter in are Yankee fans, and probably see him play every day anyway.

3) The argument that he should show up to tip his cap to the fans in attendance - All of the Yankees who were introduced last night were solidly booed, I would say even more so than the Dodgers and the Giants who are the D-Backs main rivals. So you wanted Jeter, who is still recovering from an injury, to spend 9 hours in a plane just to get booed on National TV? Never mind the fact that Jeter probably wouldn't really like going back to the site of his biggest professional disappointment if there was nothing in it for him.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. If he plays, he doesn't deserve to be there. But he doesn't go, and people shit bricks.

And for what it's worth, Minka has a 13-episode commitment for Charlie's Angels in the fall, so she'll still be working even when he's off.

I totally agree that he really couldn't have won everybody over no matter whate he did.

But since he was voted in, even if it was just by his own fans, then he should've honored them by going and standing in the lineup of starters.

His only other course of action should've been to publicly mention that he didn't think himself worthy enough of the honor and that he thought that another player should go in his place. He could've then spun it back and said that he was going to take the time to rest his injury and get ready for the 2nd half.

That would've made him look like a professional.

[spoon]

And a realist! dj3k!

[Snacks]

Here is another thing that proves the luck of this asshole they call Captain. He has done nothing for this guy who caught the ball and gave it to him for nothing but some swag. Hes so lucky the all star break did happen now because he is so far removed from all the questions about the guy and his taxes etc. If this all happened and they werent on break or vacation for DJ3K then he might be asked about this every day and look like the asshole he is for ignoring the questions or for not giving into the pressure and still not offering a penny.

Now when he comes back the questions will focus on how he feels and about not going to the all star game. They might ask a question about this but then again hes the captain and if he seems like hes getting pissed off they might back off or then again he might just ignore all press for a couple more days and get away with that too.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Here is another thing that proves the luck of this asshole they call Captain. He has done nothing for this guy who caught the ball and gave it to him for nothing but some swag. Hes so lucky the all star break did happen now because he is so far removed from all the questions about the guy and his taxes etc. If this all happened and they werent on break or vacation for DJ3K then he might be asked about this every day and look like the asshole he is for ignoring the questions or for not giving into the pressure and still not offering a penny.

Now when he comes back the questions will focus on how he feels and about not going to the all star game. They might ask a question about this but then again hes the captain and if he seems like hes getting pissed off they might back off or then again he might just ignore all press for a couple more days and get away with that too.

Spot on


and BTW Ive been called a self hating Yankee fan by some of these Jeter worshippers, Meanwhile 25 years ago when I was rooting for the Yanks, they all were all on the Mets bandwagon only to hop on board in '96

[Snoogans]

Spot on


and BTW Ive been called a self hating Yankee fan by some of these Jeter worshippers, Meanwhile 25 years ago when I was rooting for the Yanks, they all were all on the Mets bandwagon only to hop on board in '96

how are you so right on this topic but everything else you are always wrong?

[JimBeam]

Spot on


and BTW Ive been called a self hating Yankee fan by some of these Jeter worshippers, Meanwhile 25 years ago when I was rooting for the Yanks, they all were all on the Mets bandwagon only to hop on board in '96

Oh and those Yankee fans hate to be reminded of that.

I'd say 45% of them were fand from '96 through '00 and then again in '09.

I'm not sure if there's a bigger collection of poser fans in the world.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Oh and those Yankee fans hate to be reminded of that.

I'd say 45% of them were fand from '96 through '00 and then again in '09.

I'm not sure if there's a bigger collection of poser fans in the world.

Cowboys fans arent far behind.

If Notre Dame ever wins the National Championship again, I think there will be fresh new fans of the Irish

[Gutter]

Oh and those Yankee fans hate to be reminded of that.

I'd say 45% of them were fand from '96 through '00 and then again in '09.

I'm not sure if there's a bigger collection of poser fans in the world.

I've seen more than my share of that growing up in Central Jersey. We don't really have a team that's an obvious choice. South Jersey is all Philly teams, North Jersey goes with the Yanks. You'll find a fan of every team in every sport in that middle section of Jersey. After every super bowl every kid had a new Starter jacket with whoever won, but the new "die hard" yankee fans had the by far the most numbers.....after 97 98 I think I was the only kid left in school that didn't have a brandy new Yankee hat or jacket with the world series patch or backpack.....Hell, I remember some kid that was from Marlboro or Middletown had the NY shaved into the back of his head. Every kid I hated in school was all of a sudden a Yankees fan, so I've never liked that team.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

These over the top fans are the worst. Ill admit I have some Yankee merchandise like for example I have a framed photo of the grand opening of the old stadium from 1923, but I cringe when I see the some of these fans who just go overboard with the flags, jerseys etc. Most of them are just blinded by their worship of the Yankees. You can not talk to them about the game of baseball in General, talk about the other great players, discuss comparisons, different eras of the game etc. Mention that Ted Williams was one fo the greatest hitters of all time and youre deemed a sellout because he played for Boston.

[Sinestro]

You're all just jealous because The Yankees have 27 World Series.........standard Yank fan reply to anything.

[newport king]

i generally look at any man in my age group (33) and if they're a yankees fan, i immediately feel they're a front runner and switched teams in 96. I remember the 80's. you couldnt FIND a yankee fan my age.

you make a choice when you're a child what teams you root for. i'll even give you to the age of 10. youre not allowed to switch teams after that. its a complete 100% bitch move.

i've also seen this with alot of Jets "fans" lately. Seems like theres way more than there ever was before.

i've been to at least 10 of my friends homes during parties and i inevitably bring up the question to their mother or father what team they liked as a kid. and if you grew up in the 80's the yankees sucked for an entire decade. so every one of my shitbag dickriding yankee fan friends were mets fans at one point.

i WISH someone had told me the Mets are usually the team that sucks. instead i sit and i suffer. because i made a choice as a kid. thats what fans do.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

i generally look at any man in my age group (33) and if they're a yankees fan, i immediately feel they're a front runner and switched teams in 96. I remember the 80's. you couldnt FIND a yankee fan my age.

you make a choice when you're a child what teams you root for. i'll even give you to the age of 10. youre not allowed to switch teams after that. its a complete 100% bitch move.

i've also seen this with alot of Jets "fans" lately. Seems like theres way more than there ever was before.

i've been to at least 10 of my friends homes during parties and i inevitably bring up the question to their mother or father what team they liked as a kid. and if you grew up in the 80's the yankees sucked for an entire decade. so every one of my shitbag dickriding yankee fan friends were mets fans at one point.

i WISH someone had told me the Mets are usually the team that sucks. instead i sit and i suffer. because i made a choice as a kid. thats what fans do.


The Jets bandwagon started with Sanchez as QB. I grew up in Westchester which is mostly Yanks, Rangers, Giants Knicks fans. The shift btwn teams is staggering. Where I live in CT now is right next to the NY Border so Ive seen the uptick in Jets fans too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Different sport, but I wonder if Habs fans are hated in Montreal since the Canadiens won 24 Cups.

[Snacks]

The Jets bandwagon started with Sanchez as QB. I grew up in Westchester which is mostly Yanks, Rangers, Giants Knicks fans. The shift btwn teams is staggering. Where I live in CT now is right next to the NY Border so Ive seen the uptick in Jets fans too

Same in north Jersey. I have never seen so many Jets fans as I did these past 2 NFL seasons. I think it is 70% bandwagon fake fans and girls. In the 1st time in 40 years the Jets are decent they now have fans? Stick with you team through thick and thin (unless they are bad for the sport and the new fans annoy the shit out of you like the yankees fans and the org does)!

In all seriousness, is there anything worse then a modern day yankee fan?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yup its a Jeter can do no wrong fan

[cougarjake13]

You're all just jealous because The Yankees have 27 World Series.........standard Yank fan reply to anything.

yeh with 20 of them coming from times when there was no racial integration and 8 to 10 teams in the entire league

[Snacks]

yeh with 20 of them coming from times when there was no racial integration and 8 to 10 teams in the entire league

ding ding ding

[Sinestro]

27!

How many does your team have? Okay then.

[spoon]

yeh with 20 of them coming from times when there was no racial integration and 8 to 10 teams in the entire league

or those years when boston's cheap f'n ownership decided to sell every good player to them

or when they fleeced teams like Oakland and KC for what, ever? MLB farm teams are nice.

or when they got a few in the 90's when they had almost zero in house pitching so they just went out and bought it.

or that most recent WS where they couldn't even make the playoffs with a 200 million dollar team so they bought the three best free agents on the market for a few more hundred million and somehow went became "world champs"

like i have always said, monopoly, not dynasty




oh and montreal has a ton when there were only a few teams as well

and the original 6 is complete bullshit

[spoon]

I'm so glad Steiner and Modell each got about 50 minutes commercials on 880am during the game bc they aren't looking for pub, but are doing it bc this kid "did the right thing". At least Sterling admitted they were "dear friends of his", which surely had nothing to do with all their

good thing too, bc they needed that free time to sell all that Jeter gear with paid spots on YES

I'll never drink a Miller product again too

[PapaBear]

I'll never drink a Miller product again too
Not much of a sacrifice on your part.

[spoon]

Not much of a sacrifice on your part.

good point

do they have/own ANYTHING even average?

[Snoogans]

good point

do they have/own ANYTHING even average?

molsen
The joint venture has the responsibility of selling brands such as Miller Lite, Miller High Life, Miller Genuine Draft, Coors, Coors Light, Molson Canadian, and Blue Moon (beer) in the United States

[Snoogans]

The company is also tasked with brewing brands of beer and lager that are owned by Pabst Brewing Company.

<iframe width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/snhiofL2Rh4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[spoon]

blue moon for me, that's all

all else suck, and I thought that wasn't them to be honest

if it's true I'm shocked, but I assume the acquired that one

[A.J.]

Oh and those Yankee fans hate to be reminded of that.

I'd say 45% of them were fand from '96 through '00 and then again in '09.

I'm not sure if there's a bigger collection of poser fans in the world.

My favorite test is to ask who played SS before Jeter. You'd be surprised how many people can't answer that.

Oh and Jeter claimed he sat out of the All-Star game to rest his calf which was hurting. Why not just say that up front and avoid all of this drama?

[underdog]

blue moon for me, that's all

all else suck, and I thought that wasn't them to be honest

if it's true I'm shocked, but I assume the acquired that one

Blue Moon was created and has always been brewed by Coors.

If you're in Canada, it's called Rickard's White.

[Jujubees2]

In all this madness I totally forgot that the guy who caught Boggs' 3000th carer hit also gave it back to him. Of course, there wasn't as much hoopla about Boggs as there is about DJ3K but as mentioned in the article it occurred shortly after the McGwire 70th home run ball.

Fan’s Generosity With Jeter Ball, Has Been Seen Before…In St. Pete (http://www.raysindex.com/2011/07/yankees-fans-generosity-with-jeter-ball-has-been-seen-before-in-st-pete.html#more-16795)

Hogan loses place in history (http://www2.tbo.com/news/opinion/2011/jul/10/SPNEWSO5-hogan-loses-place-in-history-ar-242998/)

And for the record I know Mike Hogan from his time at Siena College and it didn't surprise me that he gave the ball back to Boggs.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Christian Lopez has long faded away from Jeters memory

[Earlshog]

good point

do they have/own ANYTHING even average?



you gonna hate on the champagne of beers... For shame!

[JimBeam]

yeh with 20 of them coming from times when there was no racial integration and 8 to 10 teams in the entire league

I almost wrote the same thing but anticpated getting into a larger debate so I didn't do it.

Everytime I hear their fans say that, about the 27 titles, I call it the " Fat Old Drunk White Guy Era ".

I also like to put out the conspiracy that maybe it wasn't just the White Sox that were tanking the World Series back then.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think the Late 40's and 50's dynasty was legit. From the Ken Burns documentary a lot of the old timers said while Stengel was looked at like the goofball he was a smart manager by using the platoon system. He learned that from when he was a player for the Giants under John McGraw who some call the greatest mgr of all time.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Who the fuck is he kidding? Like there isn't thouands of hours of tapes of his career from 1995-Present

He did this for the publicity and to show the people that worship him that hes a multi millionaire with a huge house and hot girlfriend and his life is better than theirs


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AmPoqHp2lcxhx4fpaNwxmJARvLYF?slug=ap-yankees-jeterdocumentary

[TripleSkeet]

Derek Jeter(notes) allowed cameras to follow him during his pursuit of 3,000 hits partly because “if and when” he has children, he’d like them to be able to see him as a player.

What is this? 1940? His kids could get dvd's or watch youtube for just about every one of those 3000 hits.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Id love to know how much he banked since 3000. Was at modells yesterday and theres so much DJ3K merch.

[spoon]

Like I said, EVERYTHING Jeter does is calculated in the interest of his image and finances. Oh and that DJ3K shit is crap.

[Sinestro]

Like I said, EVERYTHING Jeter does is calculated in the interest of his image and finances. Oh and that DJ3K shit is crap.

X2.


Jeter is like Tiger Woods. Can't wait for Minka to take that baseball bat and follow a peeling out Jeter out of the drive.....

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Doubt he will be driving a ford if that happens

[spoon]

Doubt he will be driving a ford if that happens

It'll probably be a boating incident. His home up in Greenwood Lake has a boat dock IN his home.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7a_aUiPRCdw/TIGdnXjgj0I/AAAAAAAAAKQ/GOvzx2F5_Xs/s1600/Derek+Jeters+House+Greenwood+lake.jpg

Old pic from years ago but you can see the bridge where he gets his boat into the property. There is now a mini statue of liberty on property, cool pool w/ waterfall and soon a LOT of DJ3K merch that won't sell.

[spoon]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281735_2208295170745_1348410814_2531585_2893366_n. jpg

awful

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281735_2208295170745_1348410814_2531585_2893366_n. jpg

awful

More like Fucking awful

:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

[spoon]

is it any shock that fucking bear is a switch hitter?

:lol:

[Sinestro]

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281735_2208295170745_1348410814_2531585_2893366_n. jpg

awful

They couldn't find a good pic of him and Jeter shaking hands after giving him the ball to use?

[Jujubees2]

They couldn't find a good pic of him and Jeter shaking hands after giving him the ball to use?

Jeter probably wouldn't let them use his picture on Lopez' card

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Holy shit!!!

Im sure 99.9% of these people polled are post 1996 Yankee fans. Thanks for proving again that they are a bunch of ignorant douches

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_new_york_yankees_greatest_player_derek_jeter_an d_babe_ruth_tied_in_poll_of_nyc_v.html

[Jujubees2]

Holy shit!!!

Im sure 99.9% of these people polled are post 1996 Yankee fans. Thanks for proving again that they are a bunch of ignorant douches

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_new_york_yankees_greatest_player_derek_jeter_an d_babe_ruth_tied_in_poll_of_nyc_v.html

I was thinking the same thing. Jeter is a very good player but compared to Ruth? Ruth changed the game!

[A.J.]

Holy shit!!!

Im sure 99.9% of these people polled are post 1996 Yankee fans. Thanks for proving again that they are a bunch of ignorant douches

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_new_york_yankees_greatest_player_derek_jeter_an d_babe_ruth_tied_in_poll_of_nyc_v.html

My grandfather is rolling over in his grave right now.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I guess they never heard of Mantle Gehrig and DiMaggio all MUCH beter than Jeter

[sailor]

Holy shit!!!

Im sure 99.9% of these people polled are post 1996 Yankee fans. Thanks for proving again that they are a bunch of ignorant douches

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_new_york_yankees_greatest_player_derek_jeter_an d_babe_ruth_tied_in_poll_of_nyc_v.html

Read the poll statistics and you'll see it isn't meaningful in any way (just pretend they only polled illegal aliens).

[brettmojo]

Holy shit!!!

Im sure 99.9% of these people polled are post 1996 Yankee fans. Thanks for proving again that they are a bunch of ignorant douches

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_new_york_yankees_greatest_player_derek_jeter_an d_babe_ruth_tied_in_poll_of_nyc_v.html
I think it's safer to say 99.9% of these people polled have a vagina.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Christian Lopez is one of them

[spe5150]

This is what it looked like when I voted.

Poll Results
You can only vote once.
Who's the greatest Yankee of all time?
Babe Ruth------------51%
Derek Jeter----------18%
Joe DiMaggio---------6%
Lou Gehrig-----------10%
Mickey Mantle---------8%
Mariano Rivera--------4%
Don Mattingly----------2%
None of the above-----1%

So while it's still crazy that Jeter is ahead of anyone on that list except Mattingly, at least it's not as ridiculous as him being tied with Ruth for 1st.

[Snacks]

This is what it looked like when I voted.

Poll Results
You can only vote once.
Who's the greatest Yankee of all time?
Babe Ruth------------51%
Derek Jeter----------18%
Joe DiMaggio---------6%
Lou Gehrig-----------10%
Mickey Mantle---------8%
Mariano Rivera--------4%
Don Mattingly----------2%
None of the above-----1%

So while it's still crazy that Jeter is ahead of anyone on that list except Mattingly, at least it's not as ridiculous as him being tied with Ruth for 1st.

that list is ridiculous because Ruth shouldnt be that far ahead of Gehrig and to have Jeter 2nd wit h1/5 of the vote is just as ridiculous!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Mantle 3 MVPs and a triple crown
DiMaggio 3 MVPs 56 Gm hitting streak 2 time batting Champion
Gehrig Triple crown 2 MVPs
Even Berra had 3 MVPs


Jeter 0 MVP 0 batting titles




Can these dopes who ranked Jeter so high be classified as Rubes?

[TripleSkeet]

They couldn't find a good pic of him and Jeter shaking hands after giving him the ball to use?

There is absolutely no way that guy is 250. Unless hes really 5'9 and not 6'3.

[TripleSkeet]

Holy shit!!!

Im sure 99.9% of these people polled are post 1996 Yankee fans. Thanks for proving again that they are a bunch of ignorant douches

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_new_york_yankees_greatest_player_derek_jeter_an d_babe_ruth_tied_in_poll_of_nyc_v.html

Derek Jeter over Joe Dimaggio. Sweet Jesus.

[Earlshog]

How would you rank it?

I'd go

Bobby Meachem
Babe Ruth
Tim Foli
Joe DiMaggio
Joe Cowley
Lou Gehrig
Melido Perez
Mickey Mantle
Steve Kemp
Mariano Rivera
Steve Howe
Don Mattingly
Charlie Hudson
Derek Jeter tie
Alvero Espinoza tie

[sailor]

that list is ridiculous because Ruth shouldnt be that far ahead of Gehrig and to have Jeter 2nd wit h1/5 of the vote is just as ridiculous!

53% of the voters wouldn't even classify themselves as somewhat interested in baseball. It's a silly poll indeed.

[spoon]

This is what it looked like when I voted.

Poll Results
You can only vote once.
Who's the greatest Yankee of all time?
Babe Ruth------------51%
Derek Jeter----------18%
Joe DiMaggio---------6%
Lou Gehrig-----------10%
Mickey Mantle---------8%
Mariano Rivera--------4%
Don Mattingly----------2%
None of the above-----1%

So while it's still crazy that Jeter is ahead of anyone on that list except Mattingly, at least it's not as ridiculous as him being tied with Ruth for 1st.

Yah, that poll is better, but not the same one.

The funny thing is, Jeter isn't even the best Yankee on his team (Rivera is the best EVER at his position). However, I love this story and am now convinced all yankee fans are ignorant chicks. Who's YOUR favorite team Crip? ahahahahaha! u have a vagina!

[spoon]

There is absolutely no way that guy is 250. Unless hes really 5'9 and not 6'3.

Yah he's like 350, no doubt.

[Sinestro]

Mantle 3 MVPs and a triple crown
DiMaggio 3 MVPs 56 Gm hitting streak 2 time batting Champion
Gehrig Triple crown 2 MVPs
Even Berra had 3 MVPs

Jeter 0 MVP 0 batting titles


Can these dopes who ranked Jeter so high be classified as Rubes?

Yeah but if you talk about the intangibles that Jeter brings he's on top of the list. WTF does that even mean? Reminds me of the stupid Jeter hall of fame talk that dude from 660 was talking about. Jeter doesn't make it on his numbers alone aside from the 3000 crap, but the intangibles he brings he's a hall of famer? Huh?

[Sinestro]

Jeter probably wouldn't let them use his picture on Lopez' card

What a doshe bag Jeter is.

[JimBeam]

Yeah but if you talk about the intangibles that Jeter brings he's on top of the list. WTF does that even mean? Reminds me of the stupid Jeter hall of fame talk that dude from 660 was talking about. Jeter doesn't make it on his numbers alone aside from the 3000 crap, but the intangibles he brings he's a hall of famer? Huh?

Again the intangibles are a way to say hey you were never the best at your position during your career, nevermind all time, but hey you did things that we can't see that make you great.

Like that time he didn't murder a school bus full of children. I mean come on, any guy that doesn't murder children is great and you MUST see that.

He's great because he doesn't use date rape drugs on girls. Again that makes him great.

This cheerleader, helping run the locker room nonsense is ridiculous.

If the team was made up of 18-21 year olds maybe they'd need this kinda rah rah shit but grown men, making millions of dollars shouldn't need a guy making more than them to keep them focused on their goals. If they do there's a real problem.

[spe5150]

Who's YOUR favorite team Crip? ahahahahaha! u have a vagina!

Why it's the Pittsburgh Pirates, of course!

(ps: I hate you :tongue:)

[cougarjake13]

How would you rank it?

I'd go

Bobby Meachem
Babe Ruth
Tim Foli
Joe DiMaggio
Joe Cowley
Lou Gehrig
Melido Perez
Mickey Mantle
Steve Kemp
Mariano Rivera
Steve Howe
Don Mattingly
Charlie Hudson
Derek Jeter tie
Alvero Espinoza tie

this list is complete utter bullshit without claudell washington

[A.J.]

The funny thing is, Jeter isn't even the best Yankee on his team (Rivera is the best EVER at his position). However, I love this story and am now convinced all yankee fans are ignorant chicks. Who's YOUR favorite team Crip? ahahahahaha! u have a vagina!

"27 WORLD SERIES!!"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yah, that poll is better, but not the same one.

The funny thing is, Jeter isn't even the best Yankee on his team (Rivera is the best EVER at his position). However, I love this story and am now convinced all yankee fans are ignorant chicks. Who's YOUR favorite team Crip? ahahahahaha! u have a vagina!

Except me. Ive been one of the few yankee fans criticizing Jeter and 99% of Yankee fans on this thread

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Was watching the 2nd game of the DH last night and Kim Jones interviewed Lopez in his new seats. He sounded like he was 12 years old and kept calling Jeter Mr Jeter and how he did so much for the Yankees. How fucking naive !!!! Like the Yankees didnt do anything for him, naming him captain, the monster 189 mil 10 year contract and the inflated contract he got with a player option for a 4th year.


Theres no way hes 250, He was seated while being interviewed, he's the size of a glacier

[Dan 'Hampton]

Lopez is the epitome of the stupid laundry worship sports teams in general and to an extreme degree in the Bronx bank on.