Any advice???

[TripleSkeet]

So today my sister came to me for advice, and I really have no idea what to tell her. Anyone have some suggestions???

Her neighbors daughter just turned 17. A year and a half ago, she told my sister she was seeing a 30 year old married father of 2. He was one of her substitute teachers. At the time she was scared and wanted to end it. So my sister contacted the guy on FB, told him if she found out he contacts this girl again shes gonna call the cops and have him arrested. Thats where she thought it ended.

Fast forward to this week. She tells me sister that not only has she still been seeing the guy, who is now 32, but that she fucks him now and lets him cum inside her because he told her he had a vasectomy. She also said they are in love and he plans on leaving his wife once school starts back up and he has time to put some money away. I know, it sounds like a shitty script for a movie. I cant believe girls are still this dumb after hearing the same story a million times. So much for evolution.

So she tells the girls mom. Who in turn calls the guy and freaks out on him, threatening him and such. She tells him to break it off with her daughter, but dont tell her the mom ordered him to. Tell her its his decision to stay with his wife. This motherfucker turns around and instead tells this girl my sister is trying to have him arrested. So now the girl is flipping on my sister spitting out 1 tired old cliche after another like "You dont understand what we have", "He would never lie to me, hes really gonna leave her" and "You dont know him like I do". It would be comical if it wasnt so pathetic.

So my sister doesnt know what to do. The girls mom doesnt wanna call the cops because shes afraid it would embarrass her daughter publicly. Normally my answer would be to stay out of it. But the bottom line is, this guys a fucking pedophile....and a teacher. Hes been banging her since she was at least 16. My sister has 3 kids, I have 2. I dont see the girl leaving him and I really dont care. Shes in for a world of heartbreak in the future. Its a shame too because she is stunning and about to start a job modelling for Hollister. But the bottom line is my sister doesnt want this guy teaching kids in a school where her kids and niece may eventually end up in his classroom.

So what should she do? I dont think going to the cops will work because what if the girl just denies it? The mom is thinking of going to the guys wife but from what I heard he actually left her once and told her he wanted to be with this kid....and she later took him back. So I dont know what the fuck goes thru her mind. I really had no idea what to do. The best I can think of is memorize his name and make sure one of our kids doesnt end up in his class.

[jennysmurf]

Wow, what a mess. Could she possibly report him anonymously? Maybe the police could watch him and catch him with the girl? I have no idea. This sounds like a bad Lifetime movie. Keep us posted, okay?

[TripleSkeet]

Wow, what a mess. Could she possibly report him anonymously? Maybe the police could watch him and catch him with the girl? I have no idea. This sounds like a bad Lifetime movie. Keep us posted, okay?

The thing is, if they catch him now....I dont think hes actually breaking the law. So I dont even think a tip would help. My sister wants to report him to the school board, but because hes a sub, shes not sure which board to report him to.

[jennysmurf]

The thing is, if they catch him now....I dont think hes actually breaking the law. So I dont even think a tip would help. My sister wants to report him to the school board, but because hes a sub, shes not sure which board to report him to.

I feel like she should do something, for no other reason than to keep him preying on some other child. But what? I have no idea.

[spoon]

I feel like she should do something, for no other reason than to keep him preying on some other child. But what? I have no idea.

Yah he needs to never teach again, let alone be near young women. What a piece of shit, and can this girl be any thicker?

I'm not sure what the answer is, but it must involve getting him out of teaching at least. She's going to decide her own fate at this point as she's been brainwashed. I only hope her family can get through to her.

[TeeBone]

Anyone have some suggestions???

...So what should she do?

You're family is fucked:
- Your Sister is fucked and may eventually be approached by the creepy kid toucher. She is wrapped up in this now and the fact she has not called the police is seriously fucked up logic, no matter who may be hurt publically. Kid touchers have no business being amongst us. It's fucked, man.
- Your sister's kids are fucked too and if it hasn't already happened yet; that fucker is going to start looking at them.
- You are fucked because of your relationship with your nut sister and you should give two shits about that neighbor family. Everyone in this mess is fucked.

What you need to do is fake your own death, move to another state, buy your kids a dog to shut them up for your family's new name change and put this all behind you. Cut bait, and move on you crazy fucker!

[StanUpshaw]

You should tell everyone to quit being a bunch of promise ring purity ball Quaker assholes and let her live her life. Any distress she's going to experience is only going to be amplified by her loved ones telling her she's doing awful, shameful things.

[TripleSkeet]

You should tell everyone to quit being a bunch of promise ring purity ball Quaker assholes and let her live her life. Any distress she's going to experience is only going to be amplified by her loved ones telling her she's doing awful, shameful things.

I think you missed the point completely. No surprise.

[A.J.]

So today my sister came to me for advice, and I really have no idea what to tell her. Anyone have some suggestions???

Her neighbors daughter just turned 17.

This 17 year old isn't family? Then stay away from that mess.

[sailor]

Fuck it, rat out the mom. It's her mess. She's legal anyway (and was at 16 in either jersey or PA, don't know where this is), so what would be reported? Maybe corruption Irma minor or whatever in PA.

[realmenhatelife]

For the scumminess factor I think it's worth it for them to contact the principle of the school she attended. This young girl just needs to grow out of this shit, those later teen years are just a psychotic age. Your sister should count herself lucky that at the end of the day she can wash her hands of the whole thing.

Hey, do me a favor, if this is in the Philly burbs could you PM the school district? I'm not looking to start any rumors, I'd just like to know.

[CountryBob]

I'd stay out of it - not your family. If things get crazy - and your sis has been involved, she cant walk away if need be.
No matter how sick it is that the teacher has been fucking his students - I say dont get involved.

[Jujubees2]

I think your sister should contact the high school where this girl went to alert them and they can choose to alert other schools that employ him as a sub.

[foodcourtdruide]

This 17 year old isn't family? Then stay away from that mess.

If nothing illegal is going on, I agree 100% with this.

[CountryBob]

I worked witha guy that went through almost the same situation. His daughter 14 at the time was seeing (and fucking) a 30 yr old guy that was married. My buddy wasnt happy but didnt go crazy over it and now she has given him 3 beautiful grandkids. Ya never know.

Also, your situation almost sounds like "The Killing" script - minus the murder

[foodcourtdruide]

You should tell everyone to quit being a bunch of promise ring purity ball Quaker assholes and let her live her life. Any distress she's going to experience is only going to be amplified by her loved ones telling her she's doing awful, shameful things.

Promise ring purity ball quaker assholes? It sounds like this guy was a 30 years old teacher and sleeping with a 15 year old student. I know we all want to be too cool for the room, but morally it does sound like he crossed a boundary, and I can understand TS's sister wanting to get involved. I just suggest not doing so, especially now because the girl is of legal age and can make her own decisions.

Maybe an anonymous call to the school district would be the best way to go. Just to prevent this from happening again. The guy is a major-league scumbag and should NOT be teaching children.

[TripleSkeet]

Yea see I think some people are confused. Im not really worried about this girl. Shes not my family, and shes 17, free to ruin her life however she sees fit.

The concern is by doing nothing this guy continues to teach other young girls. Thats my major problem with it. I cant lie, if this was my daughter right now this thread title would probably be "Any advice on the best way to dispose of a body?"

My sister has 3 kids of her own getting ready to start school. She kind of feels like if she does nothing, and later down the road this guy takes advantage of another 14-15 year old, she would feel it was her fault. I mean, I understand that the mom doesnt want to embarrass her daughter, but its not like she has to go to the nightly news with this. She should go to the principal or whoever and let them know theyve got this scumbag teaching other vulnerable, naive girls. But its not like I can force her to.

[TripleSkeet]

Also, your situation almost sounds like "The Killing" script - minus the murder

Yea well the girls father just found out like 3 days ago and is still kind of shellshocked. Stay tuned.

[Dude!]

if it were my daughter
i'd contact the school
and the police

if not my daughter
i'd try to get in
on the action myself

[TjM]

Anthony Cumia sees nothing wrong here

[Furtherman]

Ever see the movie Zodiac? I'd just just him the stare down like Gyllenhall did the killer at the end of the movie.

You don't have to say a word. Just give him that "I know what you did" look.

You do have a right to be worried this guy is a teacher, but I think your sister should break off all contact with that disaster waiting to happen.

[TripleSkeet]

Ever see the movie Zodiac? I'd just just him the stare down like Gyllenhall did the killer at the end of the movie.

You don't have to say a word. Just give him that "I know what you did" look.

You do have a right to be worried this guy is a teacher, but I think your sister should break off all contact with that disaster waiting to happen.

LOL The mom told my sister the reason she told the guy not to say she called him is because she didnt want it to cause a big riff between them. But she also told the daughter if she wants to keep seeing him when shes 18 she can move out and do it from her own place. Crazy family.

My sister told her mom point blank, Im flattered your daughter felt she could confide in me, but shes nuts if she thinks Im just going to let this go on without telling her parents. She said she had no problem if the girl didnt want to be her friend anymore. (For the record she lives down the street and babysitted my nephews for years, thats how they becmae friendly)

[sailor]

Now I'm confused, it sounded like she started seeing him at 16 or 17, but now it sounds like 14-15 - which is it? Totally changes everything.

[TripleSkeet]

Now I'm confused, it sounded like she started seeing him at 16 or 17, but now it sounds like 14-15 - which is it? Totally changes everything.

She started seeing him at 15. Told my sister. But said they werent having sex. My sister let the guy know she knew, and he was supposed to back off. The girl now just turned 17 last month and told my sister it only stopped for a couple of weeks, and that they were having unprotected sex, but my sister never got into exactly when it started. She was at least 16 when they started fucking, but theres a possibility it happened when she was 15.

Not to mention a 30 year old taking a 15 year old girl out and making out with her is just as creepy as fucking even though its not illegal. My sister never got details on if they were fooling around doing other stuff instead of sex though.

[CYYYFYYY]

Tell the guys wife everything. She will be pissed and tell the right people. Not the best idea but an idea none the less

[Earlshog]

She started seeing him at 15. Told my sister. But said they werent having sex. My sister let the guy know she knew, and he was supposed to back off. The girl now just turned 17 last month and told my sister it only stopped for a couple of weeks, and that they were having unprotected sex, but my sister never got into exactly when it started. She was at least 16 when they started fucking, but theres a possibility it happened when she was 15.

Not to mention a 30 year old taking a 15 year old girl out and making out with her is just as creepy as fucking even though its not illegal. My sister never got details on if they were fooling around doing other stuff instead of sex though.

creepy or hot? :innocent:

[Jujubees2]

if it were my daughter
i'd contact the school
and the police

if not my daughter
i'd try to get in
on the action myself

...and probably find a six-year-old to record the video

[StanUpshaw]

Let's drag him behind a truck because he made me feel icky!

[foodcourtdruide]

Let's drag him behind a truck because he made me feel icky!

So, you're ok with a 30 year old being with a 15 year old?

[StanUpshaw]

At first blush it seems wrong, but then I consider it for two seconds and realize it doesn't matter in the fucking least, and I should mind my own business.

[cougarjake13]

The thing is, if they catch him now....I dont think hes actually breaking the law. So I dont even think a tip would help. My sister wants to report him to the school board, but because hes a sub, shes not sure which board to report him to.

according to ur orig post u said shes now 17, and seeing this guy for last year and half so wouldnt that make her still underage ?

plus im sure theres tons of emails, texts, etc. chronicling their time together and any possible sex, not sure what the statute of limitations are for sex with an underage person


theres prob no way to make this situation known without the cops investigating her which rules out your anonymous idea to not embarass her


best idea i saw so far was the one eto let cops know and they do like a sting and catch em in act but she'll still prob think the sister was involved so theres no way to avoid that

[sailor]

At first blush it seems wrong, but then I consider it for two seconds and realize it doesn't matter in the fucking least, and I should mind my own business.

ok, what if she was 14? 13? etc

obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere, where do you think it should be before you stop minding your own business?

[sailor]

according to ur orig post u said shes now 17, and seeing this guy for last year and half so wouldnt that make her still underage ?


no. 16 is legal in PA and NJ.

[cougarjake13]

no. 16 is legal in PA and NJ.

wow didnt know that


complete legal ??

or that up til like 23 or 24 its legal thing ?

[foodcourtdruide]

At first blush it seems wrong, but then I consider it for two seconds and realize it doesn't matter in the fucking least, and I should mind my own business.

At what age would you feel it is your business? I could care less what 2 adults are doing (married, unmarried, teacher, student, etc), but I think this could be considered child abuse. This is an adult completely manipulating a child in a super-malicious way.

[sailor]

wow didnt know that


complete legal ??

or that up til like 23 or 24 its legal thing ?

jersey is totally legal. as i mentioned earlier, PA has some other crime you can be charged with until the younger is 18. don't recall offhand, i googled it before.

[sailor]

At what age would you feel it is your business? I could care less what 2 adults are doing (married, unmarried, teacher, student, etc), but I think this could be considered child abuse. This is an adult completely manipulating a child in a super-malicious way.

don't you underdog me!!

[StanUpshaw]

ok, what if she was 14? 13? etc

obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere, where do you think it should be before you stop minding your own business?

I don't have nearly as much problem with the law as I do with attitudes. You have to put a number down in the books, and I think 16 is fine. But people have to get it through their fucking heads that it's not the sex that's hurting anything. It's getting saddled with all of this guilt and shame and victimhood that fucks people up.

[Dude!]

But people have to get it through their fucking heads that it's not the sex that's hurting anything. It's getting saddled with all of this guilt and shame and victimhood that fucks people up.

AIDS does that too

[TripleSkeet]

At first blush it seems wrong, but then I consider it for two seconds and realize it doesn't matter in the fucking least, and I should mind my own business.

If this guy was pumping gas or working at Walmart Id feel the same way. Simply because this girl doesnt think shes a victim and probably wont until she realizes this guy aint leaving his family and big beautiful house to live in an apt. and date a high school senior. When that fantasy world shes in collapses, thats when shell realize how much he took advantage of her.

My problem is the fact hes still a teacher. I dont care about him getting arrested. Or divorced. I just want him banned from teaching. For a grown man that likes fucking teenagers, letting him continue to have that job is like hiring a coke addict to guard the evidence locker at a police station.

Fuck him. I dont want any chance of my kids winding up in his class one day.

[Zorro]

My feeling is you have only two choices.
1) Ignore it. Adopt the attitude that it's not your problem and let what happens, happen.
2) Repot it. Just call the cops and make a report. They'll do all the follow up. I'm sure that even if the girl is "legal" there are probably rules/laws against teacher - student relationships. (The notion he'll just deny it and nothing will happen isn't likely. Odds are probably really good he's done this before or othes suspect there's something going on)

My concern would not be 4 the girl or teacher, but how it affects my life. Seems like it's weighing on you so it's time to flip the hot potato to someone else. If you're not willing to do that. Well then you've got to move on.

[Dude!]

get some verizon strikers
to picket the school

[Misteriosa]

Dude!, please mind the forum.

[Dude!]

Dude!, please mind the forum.

Since when is
"Ask the Oracle"
off-limits?

The descriptive line says:
"Ask The Oracle Ask the oracle of the Ron & Fez show anything! (For entertainment purposes only...)"

[Misteriosa]

Since when is
"Ask the Oracle"
off-limits?

The descriptive line says:
"Ask The Oracle Ask the oracle of the Ron & Fez show anything! (For entertainment purposes only...)"

i saw it in that's life. i didnt see the sub forum as "ask the oracle"

that said, it would be nice to see an actual productive post from you once in a while.

[Dude!]

i saw it in that's life. i didnt see the sub forum as "ask the oracle"

if you're going to be
a moderator you need
to be more careful

[Misteriosa]

if you're going to be
a moderator you need
to be more careful

did you get an infraction?

[Dude!]

did you get an infraction?

no, but i've got an erection

[TripleSkeet]

My feeling is you have only two choices.
1) Ignore it. Adopt the attitude that it's not your problem and let what happens, happen.
2) Repot it. Just call the cops and make a report. They'll do all the follow up. I'm sure that even if the girl is "legal" there are probably rules/laws against teacher - student relationships. (The notion he'll just deny it and nothing will happen isn't likely. Odds are probably really good he's done this before or othes suspect there's something going on)

My concern would not be 4 the girl or teacher, but how it affects my life. Seems like it's weighing on you so it's time to flip the hot potato to someone else. If you're not willing to do that. Well then you've got to move on.

Whats weird is my sister googled his name, its a very odd name with an O. for a middle initial, and it popped up for someone with the same name but Senior (This guy is a Jr.), thats 20 years older then him and from Sussex County, NJ. Hes also a teacher and was convicted of 4th degree sexual assault on a minor. We were wondering if it might be the guys father.