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Brad_Rush
09-08-2011, 03:41 PM
Didn't see a thread for this, but I apologize if there was one.

Obama is on his A game today! This is quite an inspiring speech he is delivering

disneyspy
09-08-2011, 03:42 PM
i was thinking the same thing,probably the most inspirational speech ive heard since reagan

sailor
09-08-2011, 03:44 PM
as long as he doesn't interfere with the game, i don't care.

spoon
09-08-2011, 03:47 PM
I agree, great job tonight. He actually had some balls with this speech too. No more pussy Obama I hope, bc this is the guy I voted for. Now make it all happen!

Brad_Rush
09-08-2011, 03:51 PM
I agree, great job tonight. He actually had some balls with this speech too. No more pussy Obama I hope, bc this is the guy I voted for. Now make it all happen!

I am cautiously optimistic that he is finally ready to step up and lead

sailor
09-08-2011, 04:24 PM
No one ever disputed he gave great speeches.

Marc with a c
09-08-2011, 04:27 PM
No one ever disputed he gave great speeches.

you are such a turd.

underdog
09-08-2011, 04:36 PM
I agree, great job tonight. He actually had some balls with this speech too. No more pussy Obama I hope, bc this is the guy I voted for. Now make it all happen!

It's almost like it's about time for an election.

Oh, damn it.

Dude!
09-08-2011, 04:38 PM
silly lemmings

brettmojo
09-08-2011, 04:40 PM
Worst. Pregame show. EVER.

Melk
09-08-2011, 04:42 PM
He mentioned "tweeting" which made me a little sick to my stomach actually.

Otherwise, sounded good to me.

sailor
09-08-2011, 04:52 PM
you are such a turd.

no one ever disputed it.

brettmojo
09-08-2011, 04:52 PM
You guys need to just ignore this shit. Watch some football, invest in a vaporizer and chill. The aliens will fix everything in 2012.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-08-2011, 05:02 PM
American Jobs Act? More like Save Obamas Job act

I should have done a shot each time he said pass this jobs bill right away. My liver would be damaged beyond help

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 05:12 AM
http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rec.jpg


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Earlshog
09-09-2011, 05:30 AM
Worst. Pregame show. EVER.

Guess haven't watched CBS on Sunday morning the last three years.... :tongue:

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 06:57 AM
Same old drivel from last nights speech. We gotta pass this now over and over again. This thing will end up costing twice as much if its passed. I hope the house kills this bill.

Furtherman
09-09-2011, 07:00 AM
:glurps:

epo
09-09-2011, 07:20 AM
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An image from Michelle Malkin's website?

I would've thought you'd hate a minority like her?

foodcourtdruide
09-09-2011, 07:23 AM
An image from Michelle Malkin's website?

I would've thought you'd hate a minority like her?

Thank you, epo. Now we will have to hear about his filipino girlfriend for the next 20 posts.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 07:35 AM
Thank you, epo. Now we will have to hear about his filipino girlfriend for the next 20 posts.




:lol:

Touche sir

epo
09-09-2011, 07:40 AM
Thank you, epo. Now we will have to hear about his filipino girlfriend for the next 20 posts.

I'm sure his enlightened rants will remind us of David Cross' description of Strom Thurmond.

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WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 07:43 AM
Back to the topic of of the speech and not foreigners

He had the audacity to say how he wants American cars sold outside this country while hinting that Americans should NOT purchase foreign cars while he had the CIA buy buses made not in America by Americans but produced in Canada!

So whens the next bus tour to promote this heap of shit


It was just another campaign speech.

Furtherman
09-09-2011, 07:50 AM
He had the audacity to say how he wants American cars sold outside this country while hinting that Americans should NOT purchase foreign cars while he had the CIA buy buses made not in America by Americans but produced in Canada!

No he didn't.

Melk
09-09-2011, 08:35 AM
Back to the topic of of the speech and not foreigners

He had the audacity to say how he wants American cars sold outside this country while hinting that Americans should NOT purchase foreign cars while he had the CIA buy buses made not in America by Americans but produced in Canada!

So whens the next bus tour to promote this heap of shit


It was just another campaign speech.
He said that while Americans are driving Kias and Hyundais Koreans should be buying Fords and Chevys. He never said to not buy a Hyundai (and why would he? Hyundais are fantastic cars). If anything, he should call Chevy and Ford for having the same shit power train warranties while Hyundai boasts a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. The American car companies need to build better cars and stand behind them.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 08:49 AM
No he didn't.

Is Quebec the 57th state?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tour-bus-made-america/story?id=14324892

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 08:51 AM
He said that while Americans are driving Kias and Hyundais Koreans should be buying Fords and Chevys. He never said to not buy a Hyundai (and why would he? Hyundais are fantastic cars). If anything, he should call Chevy and Ford for having the same shit power train warranties while Hyundai boasts a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. The American car companies need to build better cars and stand behind them.

If Americans dont want American cars why would the Asians?

JimBeam
09-09-2011, 08:55 AM
What bothered me about his whole car point was that he made no mentioned that Ford does it right and didn't take gov't money.

But hey other countries should buy Chevys.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 08:59 AM
Theres a shit ton of chevy volts for sale.

Furtherman
09-09-2011, 09:15 AM
Is Quebec the 57th state?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-tour-bus-made-america/story?id=14324892

The Secret Service bought it, and it's the same one they used for Bush. Obama had nothing to do with that, nor would he.

Rhah
09-09-2011, 09:20 AM
You guys need to just ignore this shit. Watch some football, invest in a vaporizer and chill. The aliens will fix everything in 2012.

I am starting to think this might be best thing to hope for. I await my alien overlords, as long as by aliens, you mean some cool dudes from outer space and not whatever alien lives inside Michele Bachman's brain.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 09:27 AM
I love how Obamas supporters and cheerleaders say for example

"Obama could find a cure for cancer and the GOP would find fault in it.


The guy cant even fix the economy or close a prison in Cuba and they expect him to be the worlds greatest medical researcher?

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

brettmojo
09-09-2011, 10:03 AM
He needs to start calling the 'pubs unpatriotic. That worked for Bush.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 10:05 AM
Pot calling kettle... Oh nevermind


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Syd
09-09-2011, 10:28 AM
What bothered me about his whole car point was that he made no mentioned that Ford does it right and didn't take gov't money.

But hey other countries should buy Chevys.

Ford took plenty of government money. They just didn't do it while Fox was crying chicken over it. What's going to happen when Boeing doesn't play nice and everyone acts totally goddamn shocked that they're subsidized by the US government?

JimBeam
09-09-2011, 10:42 AM
They took bailout money ?

You may be right but I don't remember hearing their names mentioned in any discussions about the car companies.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 10:50 AM
Ford did receive federal funds.

Difference is GM/Chrysler had a taxpayer back bankruptcy

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/12/report-ford-took-federal-funds-too.html

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 11:35 AM
Ford took plenty of government money. They just didn't do it while Fox was crying chicken over it. What's going to happen when Boeing doesn't play nice and everyone acts totally goddamn shocked that they're subsidized by the US government?

Speaking of bailouts and media outlets. How about MSNBC? GE is the parent company of it and received billions from TARP. To be more specific GE Capital the financial arm of Obamas favorite company.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 11:55 AM
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Syd
09-09-2011, 12:00 PM
Speaking of bailouts and media outlets. How about MSNBC? GE is the parent company of it and received billions from TARP. To be more specific GE Capital the financial arm of Obamas favorite company.

What, and that's somehow more detestable than all the fucking Goldman Sachs shenanigans? GE Capital/MSNBC is detestable because of the collusion between capital and government but it's far from the worst offender.

Snacks
09-09-2011, 12:14 PM
In all seriousness no matter what this guy says or does he is criticized more then any president ever. He has bent over backwards to try to seem like a center right president and still gets treated like a commie. He needs to have the balls we thought he had and tell all these assholes to go fuck themselves. Many of his ideas that he had TRIED to get passed have been similar to what the right wanted but because its Obama saying them they have to say no and try to change the idea even further right. His problem is he has backed down.

When Bill Maher would say its because hes black I didnt want to believe it but there really is no other reason. This man has done everything he could to not ruffle any feathers especially when he has inherited 1 of the worse possible situations ever in our country. An economy almost as bad as the depression, multiple "wars" that shouldnt have been started, an out of control wall st and banking situation and terrorist threats while trying to find the 9/11 master mind (which he did no bush who had 8 years). He gets no credited for the good he has done or at least tries to do but gets blame for shit he has nothing to do with.

Its actually sickening!

Dude!
09-09-2011, 12:17 PM
Its actually sickening!

you're sickening

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 12:20 PM
What, and that's somehow more detestable than all the fucking Goldman Sachs shenanigans? GE Capital/MSNBC is detestable because of the collusion between capital and government but it's far from the worst offender.

Yea Goldman Sachs in bed with this administration. Obama should be divorced for infidelity

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 12:24 PM
In all seriousness no matter what this guy says or does he is criticized more then any president ever. He has bent over backwards to try to seem like a center right president and still gets treated like a commie. He needs to have the balls we thought he had and tell all these assholes to go fuck themselves. Many of his ideas that he had TRIED to get passed have been similar to what the right wanted but because its Obama saying them they have to say no and try to change the idea even further right. His problem is he has backed down.

When Bill Maher would say its because hes black I didnt want to believe it but there really is no other reason. This man has done everything he could to not ruffle any feathers especially when he has inherited 1 of the worse possible situations ever in our country. An economy almost as bad as the depression, multiple "wars" that shouldnt have been started, an out of control wall st and banking situation and terrorist threats while trying to find the 9/11 master mind (which he did no bush who had 8 years). He gets no credited for the good he has done or at least tries to do but gets blame for shit he has nothing to do with.

Its actually sickening!


Come on, the race card is old and worn out. He had a majority house and a virtually filibuster proof senate. He got his Stimulus passed. He got Obamacare passed. I know it was watered down in many progressives minds but he still got his way. Dodd Frank passed.

Hes continuing 2 wars and started an illegal war and it looks like the Rebels have ties to AQ

He took a bad economy and did not turn it around. In many ways its worse There has been a net loss of jobs. He also inherited a AAA credit rating and look what happened. Keynesian economics never works

He also got SCHIP extended, Lily Ledbetter passed. SO he has got a lot of victories with those majorities.

However all of those have repercussions. The Dems lost big in 2010.

Notice how he is hispandering to the Latinos. His poll numbers dropped so he basically gave a couple hundred illegals backdoor amnesty.

The fast and furious progam is unraveling and the WH had emails pertaining to it.

Obamas no commie, but he is a crony corporatist.

I dont know if youre trying to paint Obama as pure as fresh fallen snow but hes far from that. Hes corrupt just like many other presidents in both parties were

Want someone more progressive, Primary the motherfucker. put Bernie Sanders or Kucinich up against him

Last nights speech was nothing but Amateur hour again, Clearly the man has no vision or plan. Just more of the same talking points to hopefully in his case rally up the base.

StanUpshaw
09-09-2011, 12:30 PM
Bush had it worse

http://i.imgur.com/hojKp.png
http://i.imgur.com/mCV4Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/vI1Ga.png

DEFINITIVE PROOF!

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 12:55 PM
Bush had it worse

http://i.imgur.com/hojKp.png
http://i.imgur.com/mCV4Y.png
http://i.imgur.com/vI1Ga.png

DEFINITIVE PROOF!

Google is racist

Syd
09-09-2011, 12:56 PM
Yea Goldman Sachs in bed with this administration. Obama should be divorced for infidelity

It's not just him, it's every president. Palin, of all people, hit the nail on the head about crony capitalism. The problem there is she thinks less government will somehow help the situation and not create an oligarchy, rather than preventing corporations from lobbying or having a say in government.

Jujubees2
09-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Google is racist

Yeah but the Fuck Bush search may include daddy.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 01:00 PM
Yeah but the Fuck Bush search may include daddy.

I dont think 41 was portrayed as Hitler or a Chimp, He was unpopular to some but not like how 43 is

keithy_19
09-09-2011, 01:14 PM
Yeah but the Fuck Bush search may include daddy.

Or unshaven lady friends.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 03:25 PM
How the fuck are schools going to be repaired? Its already the start of the school year. That boondoggle cant happen until summer 2012.

In any case why should I have to subsidize a school repair in Phoenix? Education is a local issue, well it should be. The feds meddled with that too

Melk
09-09-2011, 06:18 PM
If Americans dont want American cars why would the Asians?
I am asking you. Obama didn't say don't buy foreign, he said foreign countries should buy more American goods.

I wouldn't take a new American car if I won one on a game show.

brettmojo
09-09-2011, 06:21 PM
"WE'RE TAKING "OUR" COUNTRY BACK!"

Nothing could possibly be racist about that.

JohnGacysCrawlSpace
09-09-2011, 06:33 PM
every that idiot opens his yap the market plunges and my money goes bye bye.

Melk
09-09-2011, 06:41 PM
I love how Obamas supporters and cheerleaders say for example

"Obama could find a cure for cancer and the GOP would find fault in it.


The guy cant even fix the economy or close a prison in Cuba and they expect him to be the worlds greatest medical researcher?

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Your aggrivation with that part of politics is due to selective blindness and deafness. You don't remember the emails that were shooting around the internet reminding the reader that Bush and Cheney are college educated and Michael Moore and Jeananne Garafalo aren't so we shouldn't respect what they bring to the political discussion. Or how John Kerry wouldn't have been able to lead the US in war because he'd flip flop so much that Bin Laden would have invaded the US.

I would love to have a Bush/Obama blows pissing contest, but there is plenty of blame to attribute to the Republican and Democratic legislative branches have worked against not only regression but progression, too.

Tax corporations, instate tarrifs that protect domestic businesses, eliminate the social security earnings ceiling, and prosecute those who hire illegal immigrants.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 06:54 PM
Your aggrivation with that part of politics is due to selective blindness and deafness. You don't remember the emails that were shooting around the internet reminding the reader that Bush and Cheney are college educated and Michael Moore and Jeananne Garafalo aren't so we shouldn't respect what they bring to the political discussion. Or how John Kerry wouldn't have been able to lead the US in war because he'd flip flop so much that Bin Laden would have invaded the US.

I would love to have a Bush/Obama blows pissing contest, but there is plenty of blame to attribute to the Republican and Democratic legislative branches have worked against not only regression but progression, too.

Tax corporations, instate tarrifs that protect domestic businesses, eliminate the social security earnings ceiling, and prosecute those who hire illegal immigrants.

And what do some on the left say? If someone doesnt go to an ivy league school they arent as smart as the Harvard grad

I agree kill the loopholes, fix SS and target the companies who hire the illegals and go after the illegals too

As far as both parties fucking shit up royally, youre preaching to the choir. I dont disagree

foodcourtdruide
09-09-2011, 07:01 PM
And what do some on the left say? If someone doesnt go to an ivy league school they arent as smart as the Harvard grad

I agree kill the loopholes, fix SS and target the companies who hire the illegals and go after the illegals too

As far as both parties fucking shit up royally, youre preaching to the choir. I dont disagree

Get over the left and right thing man. You sound like a lemming defending one side, and claiming the other has been treated better than you. Here's some Bill Hicks to help clarify things for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06fCDiu9HiA

WRESTLINGFAN
09-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Get over the left and right thing man. You sound like a lemming defending one side, and claiming the other has been treated better than you. Here's some Bill Hicks to help clarify things for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06fCDiu9HiA




Hicks is some political scientist. Brilliant

Melk
09-10-2011, 06:13 AM
And what do some on the left say? If someone doesnt go to an ivy league school they arent as smart as the Harvard grad

I agree kill the loopholes, fix SS and target the companies who hire the illegals and go after the illegals too

As far as both parties fucking shit up royally, youre preaching to the choir. I dont disagree

What I am saying that jokes and spam mail soundbytes are par for the stupidest people participating in political discourse. It isn't a left or right thing

WRESTLINGFAN
09-10-2011, 11:11 AM
Obama just gave another campaign speech. Thats what it boils down to. When I hear jobs bill I see that many people know nothing about economics on the micro or macro level. A president just cant sign something and all these new jobs will be created.


Its basic economics. A job at its most basic meaning is a demand for labor. If an employer has enough workers for his plant he cant just say hes going to hire more people no matter what goofy tax break he is promised.

Jujubees2
09-10-2011, 12:52 PM
Obama just gave another campaign speech. Thats what it boils down to. When I hear jobs bill I see that many people know nothing about economics on the micro or macro level. A president just cant sign something and all these new jobs will be created.


Its basic economics. A job at its most basic meaning is a demand for labor. If an employer has enough workers for his plant he cant just say hes going to hire more people no matter what goofy tax break he is promised.

But what makes an employer increase production at his plant? Demand. And if no one has any money there will be no increase in demand.

Chicken and egg.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-10-2011, 01:04 PM
But what makes an employer increase production at his plant? Demand. And if no one has any money there will be no increase in demand.

Chicken and egg.

Scale back some of the red tape, bureacracies, draconian restrictions and allow business to expand and access capital and they will be able to

Snacks
09-10-2011, 01:53 PM
I thought giving all these tax cuts to the rich was supposed to create jobs? It doesnt and its been proven time and time again. All it does is put more and more money into their accounts while leaving nothing for the rest.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-10-2011, 02:16 PM
Obama mentioned Warren Buffet but did he bring up Jeff Immelt? Didntear that. Or the fact that GE's aviation division and another division i think in medical are going to China


Buffett is a fraud. He has armies of tax accountants and lawyers to find every loophole possible. Plus Berkshire Hathaway are deadbeats when it comes to taxes they owe going back to 2002

hanso
09-10-2011, 06:11 PM
Speaker Boehner is two faced. In a few weeks he will have some snide backstabbing remark. Parroted from the likes of Rush Limbaugh.

hanso
09-10-2011, 07:19 PM
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hanso
09-11-2011, 07:27 AM
Theres a shit ton of chevy volts for sale.

What is it with you and car incentives? Bush did the same with the Hummer. Followed with the average annual price of gas going up six years straight.

Dude!
09-11-2011, 07:34 AM
yeah, the hummer drove up
gas prices for 6 years

WRESTLINGFAN
09-11-2011, 09:49 AM
What is it with you and car incentives? Bush did the same with the Hummer. Followed with the average annual price of gas going up six years straight.

Im talking about demand for volts. Nobody wants them. People wanted the big SUV's there was still demand and even with higher prices volts arent being sold en masse

Melk
09-11-2011, 10:27 AM
Im talking about demand for volts. Nobody wants them. People wanted the big SUV's there was still demand and even with higher prices volts arent being sold en masse
That is because the Volt is almost double the price of the Prius.

foodcourtdruide
09-11-2011, 11:04 AM
I thought giving all these tax cuts to the rich was supposed to create jobs? It doesnt and its been proven time and time again. All it does is put more and more money into their accounts while leaving nothing for the rest.

It has never worked and it never will. Why would the U.S. Government create a middle man in job creation (the ultra wealthy), when they could just create jobs themselves?

spoon
09-11-2011, 01:10 PM
Scale back some of the red tape, bureacracies, draconian restrictions and allow business to expand and access capital and they will be able to

examples of these hideous restrictions please?

I'll start...

1) Wages more than China and Mexico.

2) Worker/Human rights.

So yah, forgive me if I don't subscribe to rolling those back bc let's be honest, it's our current path to destroy both for the "job creators".

WRESTLINGFAN
09-11-2011, 01:26 PM
Who the fuck said to roll those back? Yea I'm for forced child labor too


I was talking about all these draconian regulations. It's not just to expand a business. Try putting up a deck in the backyard without getting tons of permits see what happens

WRESTLINGFAN
09-11-2011, 01:44 PM
That is because the Volt is almost double the price of the Prius.



There was the $7500 credit so the volt would end up being around 33K just a few more thousand than the Prius

Syd
09-11-2011, 04:51 PM
Who the fuck said to roll those back? Yea I'm for forced child labor too


I was talking about all these draconian regulations. It's not just to expand a business. Try putting up a deck in the backyard without getting tons of permits see what happens

Deck in backyard = construction permit with a plan review. Most of that is county or municipality review, the lowest rung of government.

Rhah
09-11-2011, 06:31 PM
Dodd Frank passed.


I'd be a lot happier if Dodd Frank also got enforced. It is already getting dismantled by the right before anyone can be appointed to enforce it. And blocking appointments is bullshit, while I am on the subject.

Dude!
09-11-2011, 07:39 PM
And blocking appointments is bullshit, while I am on the subject.

yeah, democrats never did that

StanUpshaw
09-11-2011, 10:01 PM
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Bob Impact
09-11-2011, 11:39 PM
I'd be a lot happier if Dodd Frank also got enforced. It is already getting dismantled by the right before anyone can be appointed to enforce it. And blocking appointments is bullshit, while I am on the subject.

Or they can't figure out how to enforce it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals#Auditing_and_reporting_requireme nts), that bill was a disaster of vagueries and misunderstood concepts.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-12-2011, 05:33 AM
I guess Obamas job plan includes Mexican drug cartels. Now stores in Indiana are being forced to sell weapons to them via ATF fiat.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-12-2011, 08:08 AM
Someone else included in the Jobs plan

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/2011_0910presidents_uncle_released_by_feds_but_mus t_check_in/srvc=home&position=also

hanso
09-12-2011, 02:57 PM
I'd be a lot happier if Dodd Frank also got enforced. It is already getting dismantled by the right before anyone can be appointed to enforce it. And blocking appointments is bullshit, while I am on the subject.

There was a time in politics. Where one side would let a policy take place. If it got passed. (for the people)

WRESTLINGFAN
09-13-2011, 07:05 AM
The people didnt want Obamacare or Dodd Frank. The people dont want Amnesty again. The people didnt want us getting involved in another Muslim country's civil war

Syd
09-13-2011, 11:05 AM
The people didn't want a lot of shit. However, the people didn't want it enough to win the Civil War so the Republic succeeded.

Also, just about everything in Obamacare people wanted -- reduced costs, coverage of pre-existing conditions and so on and so forth. It wasn't till it was given a scary label and "death panels" that people got up in arms about it. Same with Dodd-Frank -- people wanted regulations on financials and they got it.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-13-2011, 11:27 AM
Do people want the govt to subsidize and manage records on a national level?

Expanding medicaid?

26 is still considered a minor?

The left hates Obamacare because its not single payer


Does Dodd Frank reign in Fannie/Freddie

Too big to fail aint going away

Ironic how the 2 of them have benefitted from the financial industry

Bob Impact
09-13-2011, 02:08 PM
The people didn't want a lot of shit. However, the people didn't want it enough to win the Civil War so the Republic succeeded.

Also, just about everything in Obamacare people wanted -- reduced costs, coverage of pre-existing conditions and so on and so forth. It wasn't till it was given a scary label and "death panels" that people got up in arms about it. Same with Dodd-Frank -- people wanted regulations on financials and they got it.

Most people had NO idea what was in Dodd-Frank. Half of it is either unenforceable because they authors didn't understand what they were talking about (see conflict minerals example above) or because they are illegal (breaking up non-monopoly companies that get "too big").

Bob Impact
09-13-2011, 02:09 PM
Also, all Dodd-Frank did was increase the power of the fed, which they've proven they shouldn't have over and over again and give companies yet another checklist to fill out that ultimately means little to nothing.

cougarjake13
09-13-2011, 07:03 PM
The people didnt want Obamacare or Dodd Frank. The people dont want Amnesty again. The people didnt want us getting involved in another Muslim country's civil war

unfortunately we will

hanso
09-14-2011, 03:25 PM
Do people want the govt to subsidize and manage records on a national level?

Expanding medicaid?

26 is still considered a minor?

The left hates Obamacare because its not single payer


Does Dodd Frank reign in Fannie/Freddie

Too big to fail aint going away

Ironic how the 2 of them have benefitted from the financial industry

You just answered on how people didn't want it. That being form not stucture. And how about letting it work. Rather than all the effort to stop it. This is part of the point I made above.

Frank has said DF is not being followed on speculation. Leading to higher gas prices. And has even let out some inside info on account of being so frustrated over it.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-15-2011, 11:52 AM
Not all dems on board

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44528419/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/

Dude!
09-15-2011, 01:05 PM
Not all dems on board

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44528419/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/

i'm actually starting to feel
a little sorry for the prez..

he is just in so far over his head

WRESTLINGFAN
09-15-2011, 02:34 PM
i'm actually starting to feel
a little sorry for the prez..

he is just in so far over his head

Add another scandal to Obamas legacy


http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/181731-report-white-house-pressured-general-to-support-lightsquared

WRESTLINGFAN
09-15-2011, 02:42 PM
Wow even the Solyndra fuckup isnt This admins fault. Fucking amateurs

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/solyndra-blame-bush-obama-officials/story?id=14513389

WRESTLINGFAN
09-16-2011, 05:36 AM
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/mrz091511dAPR20110915124517.jpg

StanUpshaw
09-16-2011, 06:36 AM
http://i.imgur.com/AMT0e.png

WRESTLINGFAN
09-16-2011, 06:53 AM
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WRESTLINGFAN
09-19-2011, 04:53 AM
Peter schiff schools Elijah cummings


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Bob Impact
09-19-2011, 02:14 PM
Jesus, that was absolute slaughter.

WRESTLINGFAN
09-19-2011, 03:02 PM
These fucking hack politicians should stop listening to Krugman and read Henry Hazlett, and Frederic Basteat

StanUpshaw
09-19-2011, 03:58 PM
I have a boner the size of Austria right now.

Dude!
09-19-2011, 04:23 PM
i have a boner the size of
Canada now, pindick

StanUpshaw
09-24-2011, 08:16 AM
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