FBI and the DEA have disrupted a plot involving Iran to commit terrorism inside t

[Earlshog]

Federal authorities foiled a plot by men linked to the Iranian government to kill the Saudi ambassador to the United States and to bomb the embassy of Saudi Arabia in Washington, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said in a news conference on Tuesday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/12/us/us-accuses-iranians-of-plotting-to-kill-saudi-envoy.html?hp

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Should those weapons be sent to Mexican drug lords?

[furie]

perhaps it's time to finally reenforce the boarder

[StanUpshaw]

Was this an actual plot, or yet another one that the FBI contrived to snare some fringe crazy?

[Crash]

The article really doesn't discuss why the Iranians would want to attack Saudi embassies. But it's been a poorly held secret that the Saudis are at the forefront of a bunch of mideast nations that fear a powerful and potentially nuclear Iran.

Before the Stuxnet virus set the Iranian nuclear program back several years, Israel had another plan on the table to bomb their facilities from the air. One of the scenarios (the long route) would have required landing in the Saudi desert to refuel on the way home. Apparently the Saudis gave their consent telling the Israelis that this was a one time deal and to get their asses back in the air as quickly as possible because they didn't need the shit this was going to stir up if it ever got out. When this leaked, the Saudi's loudly denied such an agreement. But I don't think anyone really believed the denials.

It will be interesting to see how the Saudis react.

[PapaBear]

perhaps it's time to finally reenforce the boarder
Serve them seconds?

[Crash]

The answers may not be as simple as they appear to be.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/11/alleged-iran-plot-middle-east-war

Whoever was behind the Washington plot was ready to start a war in the Middle East.

The US accuses the Quds Force (QF), the external operations wing of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, of being behind the plot. Given the hierarchy of the Iranian regime, such a huge undertaking would have required a direct order from the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who personally controls the QF.

Khamenei's involvement would be surprising, to say the least. Throughout his tenure – since the death of the Islamic republic's founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomenei in 1989 – he has shown himself to be highly cautious and devoted to entrenching the power of the clerical regime.

The plot is also out of character for the QF.

Robert Baer, a former CIA agent with long experience of observing the QF, said: "This stinks to holy hell. The Quds Force are very good. They don't sit down with people they don't know and make a plot. They use proxies and they are professional about it. If Kassim Suleimani was coming after you or me, we would be dead. This is totally uncharacteristic of them."

Did the Iranians get a little full of themselves and fuck up massively? Or is there something else going on here?

[Syd]

Fucked up massively or they're trying for a hail mary because they expect the balance of power in the region to continue tipping toward the Saudis

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Fucked up massively or they're trying for a hail mary because they expect the balance of power in the region to continue tipping toward the Saudis

Dont want to use that term when it pertains to Muslims

[A.J.]

Fucked up massively or they're trying for a hail mary because they expect the balance of power in the region to continue tipping toward the Saudis

Dont want to use that term when it pertains to Muslims

Hail Maryam would be better.

[Syd]

Dont want to use that term when it pertains to Muslims

Mary is actually an important figure in the Quran but she goes by the non-anglicized Maryam as AJ says.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Mary is actually an important figure in the Quran but she goes by the non-anglicized Maryam as AJ says.

I know Jesus is mentioned as a prophet in the Koran, but the way Muslims view Mary is different than how christians do specifically Catholics and Orthodox.

Besides get caught with a picture of Mary in Mecca and see what happens

[sailor]

I know Jesus is mentioned as a prophet in the Koran, but the way Christians view Mary is different than how christians do specifically Catholics and Orthodox.

Besides get caught with a picture of Mary in Mecca and see what happens

I think that first Christians was supposed to be Muslims.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think that first Christians was supposed to be Muslims.

Good catch

My bad, fixed it

[Dude!]

obama should apologize to iran
for foiling the plot

[WRESTLINGFAN]

obama should apologize to iran
for foiling the plot

Bowing down to the Mullahs would suffice

[cougarjake13]

what if its a misdirection to keep peoples eyes off their real plans

[Dude!]

or what if Holder made it up
to distract from Fast and Furious