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Chigworthy
11-11-2011, 06:50 AM
I've been watching this show on Netflix like a fucking idiot lately. What a godawful show.

I remember when this show started a few years ago. It was reality garbage, but it was a new topic: Logging in the Pacific NW done in the Deadliest Catch style. It showed how several large companies logged in various locations, and had a clownish tiny outfit that salvaged submerged logs from river bottoms. It had the regular reality show gimmicks like creative editing, but it still felt somewhat "real".

It was just added to Netfliz, so I thought I'd check out what I'd missed over seasons 2-4. It is hilarious how bad this show has become.

The show has installed a competition between the various crews and made that the focus. The logging crews pretend that trying to get more loads off the hill than another company 500 miles away is more important than the job itself.

The editing is atrocious. They splice and reuse so much footage that you will literally see someone's clothes completely change while they are up in a tree. They will use the same shot of someone saying something dramatic during 2-3 different events.

The sound effects are so disjointed. If they show a loose run of cable on the ground, they foley in the dramatic sound of tightly strung cable about to break. They actually used the cable sound effect when a truck was pulling rope. They have one clip of someone yelling "Get out of the way!" that they play constantly during the show.

They have to go into every commercial break with a fake dramatic moment. This usually means showing a log falling and having the narrator say that "Tragedy strikes." When they come back from break, it is quickly revealed that tragedy did not strike, but someone was about 30 feet from a log falling. If tragedy strikes in the middle of a segment, they establish the tragedy tease, a log falling, a cable breaking, a rock rolling down the hill. Then they have the other crew yell out someone's name a few times. Then they have silence for about 30 seconds, implying that someone was injured so bad, they cannot speak. Then they play a dramatic Tympani hit, and suddenly the "victim" yells back "I'm OK!", as though in real life when your buddies yell out concern for you, you wait a few dramatic beats to build tension before replying.

I'm watching season 4 now, and it is on a whole new level of fakeness. Now they are actually staging huge dramatic vignettes as though it is reality. One such event had the river crew trailering their boat to the river. The camera work sets up nicely that the trailer is not hitched properly by focusing on one of the loggers not locking down the hitch. Luckily, for the first time during the whole show, the camera crew has attached a camera on the tail gate looking down at the hitch as the truck drives off. As though a camera crew will watch someone hitch a trailer improperly and not say something, but rig up a camera on the tailgate. And then the loggers will see them rigging the camera and not check the hitch. And then the producers will allow them to drive on a purportedly public road hauling a trailer that could come off the hitch cause serious injury or death. When the trailer comes off the hitch, thank Bejeezus that there are no other vehicles on the road. It's almost like unseen forces have prevented other motorists from being on the road.

Another fake incident was the missing logger gag. On an Alaskan crew, they actually staged a logger going missing. It takes place on a remote island that is being logged. The whole crew has to boat into the island every morning because it is completely undeveloped. After a few epsiodes, all of the sudden there is a logger that lives on the island in a trailer with his dog. Apparently everyone else somehow knows that the logger went on a hike of the island the night before and didn't return to his trailer. They all know this back on the mainland before they have even left for the island at 3:30 AM. Well it sets up a very dramatic search effort where from 4 AM until 4 PM, the logging crew executes a trained and equipped search effort. A new logger that hasn't been seen before suddenly has a bloodhound that is trained for SAR work. Another logger can read tracks on a gravel road better than Tanto himself. Of course the authorities don't show up until 4 PM but they can only search until 6 PM because it will be dark. Right at the last minute, they find the missing logger. It does not appear that the sun is even close to going down. He is allegedly at some remote part of the island and is lost. Although he lives on the island, he decided to hike after dark and got lost. Unfortunately for the realism of the show, you can see big spools of cable and other equipment in the background where the "missing" logger spent the sub-zero night, where he had to "cover himself in moss" to stay alive. There is no moss on his clothes.

Deliciously bad.

underdog
11-11-2011, 06:57 AM
It's like Ice Road Truckers. I actually enjoyed the first season or two of both, but the editing and fakeness got so bad that I couldn't continue watching.

There should be something somewhat interesting about driving on roads made of ice, but they faked it so bad that the original road they were on banned any filming and kicked the crews off the roads before the 2nd season.

But yeah, Ax Men got so horrendously bad with the editing. I've been noticing it more and more in reality shows (sometimes you can hear full sentences put together, each word cut from different sentences) and I've wondered if other people don't hear it or don't care.

underdog
11-11-2011, 06:59 AM
Also, you were right on (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1652107) with your original feeling of the show.

newport king
11-11-2011, 07:02 AM
I watched a marathon of it on some holiday. My two favorites are the hillbilly father/son team where basically the kid dives into a swamp with a snorkel and the piece of shit father pretty much tells him how fat and useless he is (meanwhile he's THE ENTIRE LOGGING UNIT) and the one badass in the Northwest who has a snapping hook for an arm. But mostly its sour old men who deserve to get the shit beated out of them on a daily basis. The guy that runs a rigger has never been in a fight before but mouths off every other episode, and another douche put something in another guys lunchbox. That also deserved an ass beating.

Kevin
11-11-2011, 07:19 AM
It's like Ice Road Truckers. I actually enjoyed the first season or two of both, but the editing and fakeness got so bad that I couldn't continue watching.

There should be something somewhat interesting about driving on roads made of ice, but they faked it so bad that the original road they were on banned any filming and kicked the crews off the roads before the 2nd season.

But yeah, Ax Men got so horrendously bad with the editing. I've been noticing it more and more in reality shows (sometimes you can hear full sentences put together, each word cut from different sentences) and I've wondered if other people don't hear it or don't care.

Will he make this turn!!! oh no oh no oh no, (music)

Commercial.

They easily make it.

PHEW! That was scary!

underdog
11-11-2011, 07:23 AM
And every time they'd drive on the ice, they'd play the EXACT SAME SOUND.

Misteriosa
11-11-2011, 07:36 AM
maybe they dont want to pay for a foley artist :rolleyes:

Chigworthy
11-11-2011, 07:57 AM
Also, you were right on (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1652107) with your original feeling of the show.

Well this is embarassing.

underdog
11-11-2011, 08:02 AM
Well this is embarassing.

You're a soothsayer. You shouldn't be embarrassed.

PapaBear
11-11-2011, 08:41 PM
I've never seen this show, but I remember what ESD said when it first came out. "How could cutting down trees be dangerous?"

spoon
11-11-2011, 08:52 PM
You're a soothsayer. You shouldn't be embarrassed.

the true embarrassment should be expressed by someone not only checking out said tripe, but then writing a huge review on it...only to be trumped of course by those that wasted the time to read said post knowing the show can't be good in any sense of the word...only to be outdone by fucking me by commenting on something so ludicrous without even watching one second of said show or one word of the original post

:unsure:

Bigtchrist
11-12-2011, 01:52 PM
Ive actually worked as a logger in northern california. I can only watch that show for a comical value... nothing more...

Chigworthy
11-12-2011, 04:24 PM
Ive actually worked as a logger in northern california. I can only watch that show for a comical value... nothing more...

You would have liked the part where the boss gives the greenhorn cutter a brand new Stihl and sent him out on his own to drop big trees. He went about an hour before binding it up and having it crushed by a tree.

JohnGacysCrawlSpace
11-12-2011, 06:42 PM
I'm addicted to Gold Rush right now.

cougarjake13
11-13-2011, 09:12 AM
It's like Ice Road Truckers. I actually enjoyed the first season or two of both, but the editing and fakeness got so bad that I couldn't continue watching.

There should be something somewhat interesting about driving on roads made of ice, but they faked it so bad that the original road they were on banned any filming and kicked the crews off the roads before the 2nd season.

.

im the same way i liked the first season of ax men, deadliest catch, IRT, and even black gold but once the ratings were good and it got renewed you knew they were gonna fuck it up for dramatic purposes and take out whatever reality it may have had, if ever

spoon
11-13-2011, 09:21 AM
dc is pretty much right on with perhaps only a little Time Bandit hijinx added if anything

cougarjake13
11-13-2011, 09:32 AM
dc is pretty much right on with perhaps only a little Time Bandit hijinx added if anything

so you think theres no dramatic license taken at all ??


pretty much the whole cornelia marie boat shit seems all fabricated since phil died, the whole drug thing with jake and the issues with that 1st capt

the whole northwestern shit with edgar... will he stay or go ??


maybe its the way they edit it but it all seems staged and set up , the first season just seemed like they mounted cameras all around the boat and just filmed whatever happened


now its all about finding the story within the story, they even tell you that on those season ending specials when they show you what the camera guys and producers do to get ready for season

spoon
11-13-2011, 10:26 AM
so you think theres no dramatic license taken at all ??


pretty much the whole cornelia marie boat shit seems all fabricated since phil died, the whole drug thing with jake and the issues with that 1st capt

the whole northwestern shit with edgar... will he stay or go ??


maybe its the way they edit it but it all seems staged and set up , the first season just seemed like they mounted cameras all around the boat and just filmed whatever happened


now its all about finding the story within the story, they even tell you that on those season ending specials when they show you what the camera guys and producers do to get ready for season

but all that IS true

capt andy and johnathon from the time bandit were on my honeymoon flight to Oahu and trust me, it's all real. the anger that they showed talking about Keith and "mouse" was pure, not to mention their love for Phil. both were a trip like on the show too, not to mention we drank away and had a blast. what a start to the honeymoon right?! and the kicker is, my wife recognized them first on a trip to the bathroom and came back with them to say sup?! We hit it off real quick and it was some cool shit.

capt johnaton gave me some great marriage advise too..."just be on a boat 6 months out of every year and your marriage is golden!" now just imagine that in the normal hoarse capt johnathon voice and andy laughing since he eluded to the fact his brother never married and can't even keep a gf around, or won't

cougarjake13
11-13-2011, 10:56 AM
i know its true but some of the ways the present it seem fake or made up


like until this show happened was edgar even thinking of leaving ? prob not but with all the money they make from show and merch he now can actually contemplate it and still pay his bills



maybe those werent the best examples but it does seem like they take lil things and purposely blow em up cause its good for show

brettmojo
11-13-2011, 11:14 AM
Oh. I thought this was about the body spray commercials.

I think they are bad as well.

Jujubees2
11-13-2011, 11:16 AM
If you think Ax Men is terrible, take a gander at this show

http://www.wildhoghunters.com/content/attachments/835-american-hoggers-8-jpg.html?cid=18

cougarjake13
11-14-2011, 05:48 PM
If you think Ax Men is terrible, take a gander at this show

http://www.wildhoghunters.com/content/attachments/835-american-hoggers-8-jpg.html?cid=18

is this a show about a dad and brother pimping out their hog daughter/ sister ??