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JimBeam
01-05-2012, 12:29 PM
Michael Kay was going on about this yesterday asking all the guys in the studio if they'd rather be Tom Brady or Derek Jeter.
They all said Brady and Kay was beside himself.
One of his arguments was " Jeter was a 1st round pick. Brady was a 6th rounder. " Another was " Jeter started early on and Brady only started playing when somebody got hurt. "
While he did the 5 championships versus " only " 3 he left out some big things I felt.
For one Brady was an MVP and holds a record for most TDs in a season.
Brady is constantly in the argument for one of the greatest players of all time and unless you're a Yankee fan Jeter is not.
What do you guys think ?
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 12:31 PM
all i think is how the fuck do you choose that? would i rather have jeter or bardy for what? Shortstop? QB? A basketball team? Radio show co host? I dont get the question?
oh shit
i read that wrong. rather be. i thought rather have
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 12:38 PM
this is tough. I can see great reason to be either one.
Jeter has more money, just a fact of baseball and gettin endorsements in NY vs Boston. he also lives in a bigger city with more shit to do. To some that could be bradys advantage, but ill take NYC over anywhere else any day. jeter also is single, so he is free to use his good fortunes to get himself whatever ladies he desires without gettin in trouble.
Brady plays the most popular sport in america. he is also at the most important position, meaning he gets the most credit for what happens, deserved or not. He gets to be the show, as opposed to a cog in a wheel of 9 cogs. And brady is the best player on his team. Jeter usually wasnt.
I choose brady and its for 1 simple reason. The scheduling of work is far better. Jeter has to work basically from mid feb to mid to late october every year. When he does have time off, his home area is always cold. If he wants to go to the beach, he has to travel. if he wants a change in weather, he has to travel. I know he lives in tampa in the offseason but still, that means you are only home like 3 months a year until you retire.
brady has to work 3 weeks in may, and then from mid july through mid to late january. He has more time off to enjoy himself, and can stay home and get all seasons, allowing him to do all activities with limited travel. (thats an issue, athletes dont love to travel, generally, in the offseason cause they have to do it so much for the rest of the year. Its a pain in the ass) Plus, although Brady has to practice, he is a QB, so most of his work week is lighter than playing a game every single day. So ill be brady, divorce my wife so i can party, and enjoy the extra time off and being home 4 days out of the week where i have away games, instead of being gone 2 weeks at a time
WRESTLINGFAN
01-05-2012, 12:39 PM
As a Yankee fan. Jeter is not the greatest ever. He is above average
I'd rather be Brady. More awards plus Hes better looking than Jeter No Homo
Hes still banging broads on the side even being married to Gisselle
Snacks
01-05-2012, 12:40 PM
Jeter not because he is considered the best at anything but because everything else. He has made more money then Brady and will make more after baseball if only from Yankee fans and memorabilia. Brady has 2 kids from 2 women and yes they are both attractive but dont hold a candle to the talent that Jeter has gotten and still gets. Plus Jeter has escaped marriage and moves from 1 incredible hottie to the next. Jeter is also the only teflon athlete I have ever seen. Nothing bad happens to him or even if something bad comes out about him its gone or swept under the rug very quickly.
I dont think its even an argument other then I would rather play football then boring baseball but even thats not enough.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 12:49 PM
Jeter not because he is considered the best at anything but because everything else. He has made more money then Brady and will make more after baseball if only from Yankee fans and memorabilia. Brady has 2 kids from 2 women and yes they are both attractive but dont hold a candle to the talent that Jeter has gotten and still gets. Plus Jeter has escaped marriage and moves from 1 incredible hottie to the next. Jeter is also the only teflon athlete I have ever seen. Nothing bad happens to him or even if something bad comes out about him its gone or swept under the rug very quickly.
I dont think its even an argument other then I would rather play football then boring baseball but even thats not enough.
you can get a divorce, and im sure brady has prenups and plenty of money. besides, how do you know jeter aint got like 5 kids he is paying for like kemp had for 15 years before anyone actually found out?
And im sure, though like i said, jeter made more money, that tom brady is gonna have plenty of money to do whatever he wants the rest of his life. And im sure he could go make plenty of money at ESPN or being a coach somewhere if he really wanted to. lets not act like the guy has no prospects other than playing football.
JimBeam
01-05-2012, 01:31 PM
The " more ladies " argument is kinda silly.
That's a lifestyle choice.
When you chose to get married, and you're not a complete douchebag, you stay faithful.
I'm sure Brady would've stayed single if that was what he wanted.
Plus 20 years from know we'll all learn Jeter's secret and understand why he isn't married.
Piazza can then finally say " I told you guys it wasn't me !!! "
The thing that killed me about Kay was how he kept saying " But it's the Yankees. " like that was supposed to sway any support.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 01:41 PM
The " more ladies " argument is kinda silly.
That's a lifestyle choice.
When you chose to get married, and you're not a complete douchebag, you stay faithful.
I'm sure Brady would've stayed single if that was what he wanted.
Plus 20 years from know we'll all learn Jeter's secret and understand why he isn't married.
Piazza can then finally say " I told you guys it wasn't me !!! "
The thing that killed me about Kay was how he kept saying " But it's the Yankees. " like that was supposed to sway any support.
yea but you are talkin about us taking them over. Im assuming we still get our personality, just their life. thats why that shit still matters.
If we are talkin about actually turning into that person, then its a whole different story, and i dont know either well enough to have any idea how to answer
JimBeam
01-05-2012, 01:48 PM
I think he meant, and maybe I didn't convey it properly, that you'd live their life.
Not sure if they meant in their body or not.
I thought it was a fairly interesting bit especially in that everybody was disagreeing with Kay.
To be honest I think I hate them both.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 02:10 PM
I think he meant, and maybe I didn't convey it properly, that you'd live their life.
Not sure if they meant in their body or not.
I thought it was a fairly interesting bit especially in that everybody was disagreeing with Kay.
To be honest I think I hate them both.
i took it to mean you get to be them and live their life, but its your personality. basically it would be me being the long time SS of the yankees or the SB winning QB of the pats and all those accomplishments. If i had to act like them too, id fuckin rather be some goofy fuck who is so silly he can get away with anything, like brian wilson or something
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 02:13 PM
and yea, when everyone is against kay, shit gets awesome, cause he never fuckin relents. he just keeps going. Thats partly why i started listenin to him over francesa. first off, fat boy is terrible, wont get a co host, and knows NOTHING. he acts like he knows everything, but he is a fuckin jerkoff. But the main reason is, whenever they arent talkin about the yankees, kays show is actually pretty funny. none of them are too serious, so they ball bust alot, make fun of each other. some of the guests they regularly have play really well with them too, like rex and namath and all that shit. the show is actually pretty good aside from yankee talk
Snacks
01-05-2012, 02:13 PM
i took it to mean you get to be them and live their life, but its your personality. basically it would be me being the long time SS of the yankees or the SB winning QB of the pats and all those accomplishments. If i had to act like them too, id fuckin rather be some goofy fuck who is so silly he can get away with anything, like brian wilson or something
exactly. to me it sounds like who do you want to be. both of them have terrible, boring personalities so i would rather be able to be someone like wilson or rodman and just have fun with it. but how the questioned seemed to be asked i think its about which guy and their life would you rather have.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 02:25 PM
exactly. to me it sounds like who do you want to be. both of them have terrible, boring personalities so i would rather be able to be someone like wilson or rodman and just have fun with it. but how the questioned seemed to be asked i think its about which guy and their life would you rather have.
that is sorta a problem though. Like, i know myself, and most of you guys know me pretty well. could you imagine what an asshole id be, and how much id fuck with people just for a laugh if i was fuckin derek jeter or tom brady? I woulda been fuckin traded by the yankees in fuckin 1997 i woulda been such a cock. Cut my hair? fuck you. i just hit 343 and carried you faggots to a championship and you are tellin me to cut my fuckin hair? suck a dick.
I would have to choose brady, cause as tough and dickheadlike BB and that org is, at least they let their people do shit. grow your hair, fine, just dont embarrass us.
I think i would have to be either an NBA player or a soccer guy. Those are the only places where you can be a comeplete jackass and not give a shit and still keep your job. Fuck, if i could be any athlete, id probably choose Mario Ballotelli. He is fuckin AWESOME
I know most of you wont know, but go look him up, and his discipline record. its astonishing. the fuckin guy had his maserati impounded 27 times. he would go to the deli, stop the car in the street, and go do shit. one time he hit a curb and fucked up his front end. he left the car there, called a cab, goit a ride to the dealership and bought another car. completely forgot the car was there. the club had to go get it.
He also set his house on fire a couple months ago tryin to shoot roman candles out of the bathroom window. He missed and hit a bath towel. The guy is the fuckin best.
oh yea, and he gets paid like 200K pounds per week
I would rather be Jeter.
Fuck the NFL!
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 02:31 PM
I would rather be Jeter.
Fuck the NFL!
yea, how terrible it is to work for 5 months a year, 1 real work day a week. id much rather work 8 months a year with 162 real total work days. fuck working 21 days. Bahhh
Snacks
01-05-2012, 02:34 PM
yea, how terrible it is to work for 5 months a year, 1 real work day a week. id much rather work 8 months a year with 162 real total work days. fuck working 21 days. Bahhh
although i agree that the nfl work schedule is shorter and possibly better. but lets play devils advocate. other then spring training there is no practice with baseball. football you practice almost every day and live in the weight room and film study. baseball players party after every game because the sport takes less toll on the body and as long as you are up the next day you can play. in football you need much more mental and physical recovery time.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 02:37 PM
although i agree that the nfl work schedule is shorter and possibly better. but lets play devils advocate. other then spring training there is no practice with baseball. football you practice almost every day and live in the weight room and film study. baseball players party after every game because the sport takes less toll on the body and as long as you are up the next day you can play. in football you need much more mental and physical recovery time.
bullshit. first of all, brady is a QB, so even his practice is kinda week. no one hits him, he just takes snaps and throws the ball, its not like he is killing himself. I get your point if you are ray lewis, but im sure brady practices about as much as a fuckin kicker.
number 2, my ass you dont practice in baseball. Its not formal practice like NFL and NBA, but you have to be out there 5 hours before the game for conditioning, you gotta run, take BP, every day you basically go through about 3 hours of practice for the game. you still do as much, if not more, when you arent playing games.
and yea in football you watch a ton of film, but thats not stressful. and baseball players, the better ones anyway, are constantly watching film on pitchers and going over scouting reports and what not. its not like they show up, play the game, then go out and thats it.
underdog
01-05-2012, 03:22 PM
Jeter has more money, just a fact of baseball and gettin endorsements in NY vs Boston. he also lives in a bigger city with more shit to do. To some that could be bradys advantage, but ill take NYC over anywhere else any day.
Where they live is irrelevant. Brady lives in NYC anyway, and during the season, neither of them have much of a night life. Maybe Jeter has more, but a NFL player isn't going out much during the season.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 03:25 PM
Where they live is irrelevant. Brady lives in NYC anyway, and during the season, neither of them have much of a night life. Maybe Jeter has more, but a NFL player isn't going out much during the season.
it matters to me cause i would live in the city i played. Esp if i had a family. I wouldnt be like jeter and live in florida all off season. Id live in this area all year round, cause its just more convenient. Again, we get to live in that life. we dont actually have to be them and do the same things and act the same. we would just have the same overall job and security and fame and such.
Judge Smails
01-05-2012, 03:41 PM
Mark Zito would like to point out that Derek Jeter is black and perhaps you'd like to take that into account before making a decision.
cougarjake13
01-05-2012, 04:30 PM
id rather be brady
like snoogans said less actual work days, less practice time , more time off and the nfl is better then mlb in terms of popularity
only thing that would suck is the non guaranteed contract
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 04:43 PM
id rather be brady
like snoogans said less actual work days, less practice time , more time off and the nfl is better then mlb in terms of popularity
only thing that would suck is the non guaranteed contract
yea but brady doesnt have to worry about that shit. and he got a ton up front. You have to remove all the NFL negatives aside from injury possibilities. You arent becoming an NFL rookie. you are becoming brady. You already got it all. you dont have to worry about money or any of that.
cougarjake13
01-05-2012, 06:45 PM
yea but brady doesnt have to worry about that shit. and he got a ton up front. You have to remove all the NFL negatives aside from injury possibilities. You arent becoming an NFL rookie. you are becoming brady. You already got it all. you dont have to worry about money or any of that.
ahh i was taking it as if we were going from beginning of career
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 06:50 PM
ahh i was taking it as if we were going from beginning of career
why would you think that? its who you want to be. clearly whats already happened is important.
Sinestro
01-05-2012, 07:11 PM
The " more ladies " argument is kinda silly.
That's a lifestyle choice.
When you chose to get married, and you're not a complete douchebag, you stay faithful.
I'm sure Brady would've stayed single if that was what he wanted.
Plus 20 years from know we'll all learn Jeter's secret and understand why he isn't married.
Piazza can then finally say " I told you guys it wasn't me !!! "
The thing that killed me about Kay was how he kept saying " But it's the Yankees. " like that was supposed to sway any support.
Are you saying Jeter has a secret??? I've seen similar innuendos on other replys about Jeter. Is it just hating or is there substance too it.
Snoogans
01-05-2012, 07:16 PM
Are you saying Jeter has a secret??? I've seen similar innuendos on other replys about Jeter. Is it just hating or is there substance too it.
i wouldnt be surprised, considering how private he manages to keep his shit. he prob takes viagra and bangs chicks for the cover
spoon
01-05-2012, 09:56 PM
The " more ladies " argument is kinda silly.
That's a lifestyle choice.
When you chose to get married, and you're not a complete douchebag, you stay faithful.
I'm sure Brady would've stayed single if that was what he wanted.
Plus 20 years from know we'll all learn Jeter's secret and understand why he isn't married.
Piazza can then finally say " I told you guys it wasn't me !!! "
The thing that killed me about Kay was how he kept saying " But it's the Yankees. " like that was supposed to sway any support.
He's so fucking awful I NEVER turn on his fucking show. He's a fanboy that somehow got the mic to call their games and his knowledge of sports and anything NOT yankee related is atrocious. Hell, even his yankee rundowns are LOADED with hyperbolic statements that you just KNOW he believes are true.
Great point on the women too. Not sure how anyone could look at it differently. Also, I'm pretty sure a divorce would take a TON of Brady's money too.
spoon
01-05-2012, 10:05 PM
Figures this was a Kay topic, it screams gay yankee love...or just fucking gay overall.
cougarjake13
01-06-2012, 03:30 AM
why would you think that? its who you want to be. clearly whats already happened is important.
What would be the fun of being in the middle of the career or near the end ?
realmenhatelife
01-06-2012, 03:40 AM
I just dont get how you take Jeter as the natural counterpart to Brady.
Given the pussy that Jeter has gotten, and continues to get, the choice is pretty clear.
cougarjake13
01-06-2012, 05:25 AM
Brady culd pull just as good if he chose to remain an eligible bachelor
cougarjake13
01-06-2012, 05:27 AM
I just dont get how you take Jeter as the natural counterpart to Brady.
Being that it was a ny based show is my guess plus I think he was trying to do a ny vs Boston
And who else in bean town would u pick that's been as successful as jeter other then Brady ?
realmenhatelife
01-06-2012, 05:44 AM
Being that it was a ny based show is my guess plus I think he was trying to do a ny vs Boston
And who else in bean town would u pick that's been as successful as jeter other then Brady ?
I know the NY bias, I should've said I know exactly how they consider Jeter.
I'm always way underwhelmed by the girls that baseball players pull, they love that Florida soon to be used up look. 1 legit supermodel > a million ex hooters waitresses.
sailor
01-06-2012, 06:23 AM
An ex MLB player has to have a better life than a retired nfl guy, even a qb. Much more punishing on the body.
StanUpshaw
01-06-2012, 06:59 AM
Brady's white, so...
JimBeam
01-06-2012, 07:29 AM
Brady gets a lot of credit for his wife but let's not forget that Decaprio probably defiled that broad in ways unimaginable and then kicked her to the curb.
The Jeter " secret " thing was made in jest but i wouldn't be surprised.
All of his relationships appear to be photo ops.
Even the wedding that was supposed to happen died off so quickly and w/o much note.
As far as him being good looking we know girls are insane. They let celebrity maximize looks.
Guys don't really care.
A girl like Marisa Miller is hot whether she's a model or a toll collector.
But if a guy like George Clooney was washing dishes in an IHOP a woman wouldn't give him the time of day.
JimBeam
01-06-2012, 07:31 AM
As far as Kay's show goes he has gotten so much better.
Even his Yankee stuff is somewhat tempered, depending on the topic, and he handles most things fairly evenly I think.
They asked Rex Ryan some tough questions the other day that I could see a guy like Francesa not even approaching.
Now I don't think they followed up very well, when they were give crappy cookie cutter answers, but I understand they don't wanna alienate the guy and make it awkward.
sailor
01-06-2012, 07:53 AM
JB, Jeter used to hang out by Fordham and pick up lots of random, non-photo op girls. I don't think there's a secret there. Granted, this was forever after I went there, so I never saw it myself. It had to have been going on when Wampus went there, if he ever sees this thread.
ozzie
01-06-2012, 08:03 AM
What would be the fun of being in the middle of the career or near the end ?
Yeah, I'm with you. If the question was presented as "who would you want to be", I would take that as I get to go back and be BORN as Brady or Jeter, and had a chance to live thier whole life, but with the condition that I have the same talent and the on the field results would be the same.
If I pick Brady, I go to Michigan, sit on the bench for a while, then win superbowls, etc.
I don't want to inherit some false "memories" of those accomplishments, if I take the deal, I'd want to live those.
If it's just getting to jump into one body or another right now, at their current age and at this point in their career... that completely changes the question, and probably how I'd answer.
I guess I would want to be born as Brady, but if we're just making the jump now, give me Jeter.
cougarjake13
01-06-2012, 08:22 AM
Brady's white, so...
And there's that
Snoogans
01-06-2012, 08:37 AM
What would be the fun of being in the middle of the career or near the end ?
to get to live the live of an already rich and famous athlete. what the fuck would be the point of no one caring about you? I hope you started as brady from the beginning, and then Bledsoe never gets hurt. And then no one cares and you never get paid. What would be good about that?
Snoogans
01-06-2012, 08:41 AM
Yeah, I'm with you. If the question was presented as "who would you want to be", I would take that as I get to go back and be BORN as Brady or Jeter, and had a chance to live thier whole life, but with the condition that I have the same talent and the on the field results would be the same.
If I pick Brady, I go to Michigan, sit on the bench for a while, then win superbowls, etc.
I don't want to inherit some false "memories" of those accomplishments, if I take the deal, I'd want to live those.
If it's just getting to jump into one body or another right now, at their current age and at this point in their career... that completely changes the question, and probably how I'd answer.
I guess I would want to be born as Brady, but if we're just making the jump now, give me Jeter.
i dont think thats possible cause you wouldnt be them then. The whole allure of being one of them is what you have already gotten and the power you have to do shit. who the fuck wants to be jeter in 95? Again you arent becoming them. You are still you, just you get to live there life. you dont have to morph into them.
I already said if i actually had to be the person, i wouldnt wanna act like either of these tools.
Basically, i took it to mean today. If you could take over one of their lives today, and all the accomplishments that already happened become yours, who would you rather be?meaning if you choose brady, and wanna fuck whores, youd have to get a divorce.
TripleSkeet
01-06-2012, 10:34 AM
Id pick Brady simply because I would never under any circumstances want to live in NYC.
Judge Smails
01-06-2012, 10:37 AM
Id pick Brady simply because I would never under any circumstances want to live in NYC.
Then you've got that backwards.
spoon
01-06-2012, 09:18 PM
Then you've got that backwards.
:wacko:+:lol:=:clap:
spoon
01-06-2012, 09:19 PM
JB, Jeter used to hang out by Fordham and pick up lots of random, non-photo op girls. I don't think there's a secret there. Granted, this was forever after I went there, so I never saw it myself. It had to have been going on when Wampus went there, if he ever sees this thread.
wampus goes there to eat
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