The Hunger Games

[thepaulo]

I'm being barraged by the media. Why am I not excited?

[cougarjake13]

Cause running man was 25 yrs ago

[IamFogHat]

Are you still a movie critic Paul? Like, the kind who gets paid for it?

[newport king]

Battle Royale came out long ago. As did Running Man. And The Condemned.

[thepaulo]

Are you still a movie critic Paul? Like, the kind who gets paid for it?

I've got a screening tomorrow and they are making a huge deal about security

[OGC]

I've got a screening tomorrow and they are making a huge deal about security


I hope they do a full cavity search on you. I know you'll enjoy it.

[IamFogHat]

I've got a screening tomorrow and they are making a huge deal about security

That didn't answer my question even slightly you egomaniac
.

[sailor]

I've got a screening tomorrow and they are making a huge deal about security

Ron saw it like two weeks ago. Face.

[cougarjake13]

I hope they do a full cavity search on you. I know you'll enjoy it.


He gets arrested every weekend just for that reason

[thepaulo]

That didn't answer my question even slightly you egomaniac
.

I assume you mean egomaniac in the most complimentary sense.

[realmenhatelife]

Dont play GAMES with me, I'm HUNGRY for an Oscar, gee gee gee.


I'm excited, not interested in the book series but the trailer sold me.

[thepaulo]

Well, I'm going in pissed about being told how this is the greatest thing ever. At least with Twilight, everyone kind of knew it was crap.

[realmenhatelife]

Just stand up during the credits and sing the theme song

Hungry Games
one look at you and I cant describe
hungry games
I feel the magic between you and I

[thepaulo]

There is a lot about this phenomena that disturbs and offends me.
What is the psychology of the ruling elite? This group of older adults are cruel, disgusting and decadent and they preside over the massive poor in this dystopian society 300 years in the future.
Two teenagers from 12 to 18 years old from 12 different districts are forced to compete to the death. It is suppose to be an honor and a tribute but it is clearly not.
Is the vaugeness and irrationality of the ruling elite intentional? Does it add the control they have over the masses?And why is it only teenagers who must submit to this ultimate cruelty?

[sailor]

There is a lot about this phenomena that disturbs and offends me.
What is the psychology of the ruling elite? This group of older adults are cruel, disgusting and decadent and they preside over the massive poor in this dystopian society 300 years in the future.
Two teenagers from 12 to 18 years old from 12 different districts are forced to compete to the death. It is suppose to be an honor and a tribute but it is clearly not.
Is the vaugeness and irrationality of the ruling elite intentional? Does it add the control they have over the masses?And why is it only teenagers who must submit to this ultimate cruelty?

yes, it adds to their control. there was an initial rebellion from the 13th district which was annihilated. the games were brought about to teach the other districts to not fuck around.

[realmenhatelife]

Yeah paul I'm pretty sure that's the dystopian part.

[sailor]

Yeah paul I'm pretty sure that's the dystopian part.

It's fun to read his last post in Jimmy's Nana voice.

[realmenhatelife]

It's fun to read his last post in Jimmy's Nana voice.

I haven't gotten to hear that yet.




But Paul just gave me an idea that someone should write a book or make a movie about a dystopian future but the catch is the protagonist thinks it's great and is annoyed that the annoying rebel types are trying to disrupt the status quo.

[cougarjake13]

I haven't gotten to hear that yet.




But Paul just gave me an idea that someone should write a book or make a movie about a dystopian future but the catch is the protagonist thinks it's great and is annoyed that the annoying rebel types are trying to disrupt the status quo.

The first half of Equilibrium With christian bale does

[thepaulo]

Yeah paul I'm pretty sure that's the dystopian part.

I see. Dystopian societies are, by definition, conflicted.
They are deluded to believe they are Utopian but are already eaten away by greed and power.

[thepaulo]

I haven't gotten to hear that yet.




But Paul just gave me an idea that someone should write a book or make a movie about a dystopian future but the catch is the protagonist thinks it's great and is annoyed that the annoying rebel types are trying to disrupt the status quo.

The protaganist would be part of the ruling class and would never be able to sympathize with the poor and oppressed. That could never happen in real life.

[sailor]

Paul, check my comments in the listening thread for where your confusion lies.

[sailor]

The protaganist would be part of the ruling class and would never be able to sympathize with the poor and oppressed. That could never happen in real life.

No rich white people fought for black folks' equal rights?

Alternative response: see The Help.

[thepaulo]

Paul, check my comments in the listening thread for where your confusion lies.

It's the 1% vs the 99%, but NOT old people vs young people. It's the rich people vs the poor, but they are targeting the poor kids. The rich people's kids would NEVER be involved. Stanley tucci is playing it like a dark comedy because it IS for the ruling class of which he is a part. Ugh.


above is a comment you made from the listening thread.
I agree it is rich vs. poor......
but I'm also concerned about the intentions and motivations of the author who was well trained as a writer for Nickolodeon and other kid themed material.
She has drunk the kool aide and has catered to the kid market by demonizing the old as the rich.
but even Katniss's mother seems to be a worthless piece of shit and she's poor.

[thepaulo]

To quote realmenhatelife from the listening thread

It isn't believable Misti, we would never allow ourselves to turn into a quasi feudal theocracy! I mean the kids will probably like it because they're stupid assholes.


Woops, I snarked. I think he would be more willing to accept it on a symbolic level because it's about femenism, is non commercial, and is critical of organized religion

Like The Handmaid's Tale,The Hunger Games is not believable.

One cannot predict the future but Farenheit 451 or Equilibrium seem more right on.

a regression to a feudal control would never take in the modern age. We are all too well informed and too well armed. We all may be stupid but we will draw the line somewhere.

I wouldn't say it isn't possible that some really rich guys somewhere are thinking about it.

[sailor]

Thanks Paul, that would have been to much effort to report from my phone. The elder poor folk are helpless as well. Katniss is actually very resentful of her mother because she basically shut down after her husband was killed in a mining accident (before the books started) so Katniss basically agrees with you on that count. There was another short post I made about Stan tucci, who Ron said played like he movie was a dark comedy. That was an accurate portrayal by him because it is effectively a dark comedy to the people of the Capitol. A good comparison would be to gladiator games in Rome. It was a hoot to be Romans, not so much to the gladiators.

[realmenhatelife]

The protaganist would be part of the ruling class and would never be able to sympathize with the poor and oppressed. That could never happen in real life.

I'm certainly thinking more along the lines of satire. The protagonist wouldn't be part of the ruling class, he'd be one of the proletariat that likes his free soma and orgasmatron and really wishes edgar friendly would just shut up about taco bell already.


To quote realmenhatelife from the listening thread

It isn't believable Misti, we would never allow ourselves to turn into a quasi feudal theocracy! I mean the kids will probably like it because they're stupid assholes.


Woops, I snarked. I think he would be more willing to accept it on a symbolic level because it's about femenism, is non commercial, and is critical of organized religion

Like The Handmaid's Tale,The Hunger Games is not believable.

One cannot predict the future but Farenheit 451 or Equilibrium seem more right on.

a regression to a feudal control would never take in the modern age. We are all too well informed and too well armed. We all may be stupid but we will draw the line somewhere.

I wouldn't say it isn't possible that some really rich guys somewhere are thinking about it.

Why do they have to be believable? If you suspend an ounce of disbelief why not a pound? It wasn't believable that we'd turn into a race of spider monsters and oversexed smurfs like in the Time Machine, but you extrapolate a view to the extreme to make your point. It's a foundation of science fiction.

And just to argue a point Handmaids Tale, Canticle for Liebowitz, Cloud Atlas, City of Ember and I think Hunger Games are all worlds formed on top of the ashes of the old world. They didn't evolve naturally from our current society so you have to throw out any concept of our our society now would prevent these new societies from forming.

[sailor]

I agree RMHL, and like I said if you look to Rome you can see its possible for rich people to make poor people (or captives) fight to the death for their own private amusement. All the populace is looking for is bread and circuses.

[thepaulo]

I'm certainly thinking more along the lines of satire. The protagonist wouldn't be part of the ruling class, he'd be one of the proletariat that likes his free soma and orgasmatron and really wishes edgar friendly would just shut up about taco bell already.




Why do they have to be believable? If you suspend an ounce of disbelief why not a pound? It wasn't believable that we'd turn into a race of spider monsters and oversexed smurfs like in the Time Machine, but you extrapolate a view to the extreme to make your point. It's a foundation of science fiction.

And just to argue a point Handmaids Tale, Canticle for Liebowitz, Cloud Atlas, City of Ember and I think Hunger Games are all worlds formed on top of the ashes of the old world. They didn't evolve naturally from our current society so you have to throw out any concept of our our society now would prevent these new societies from forming.

To be as accurate as possible, I think the movie is okay. Everything about is, is just okay. I think I'm most offended that it has been successfully oversold. I wish many other things could generate this excitement.

[realmenhatelife]

To be as accurate as possible, I think the movie is okay. Everything about is, is just okay. I think I'm most offended that it has been successfully oversold. I wish many other things could generate this excitement.

That's pretty narcissistic though, the excitement comes these young kids who like the books. Aren't you really just offended that your time is over of being the driving demographic? Would it be appropriate for 14 year old girls to be freaking out over the same things you do?

[thepaulo]

That's pretty narcissistic though, the excitement comes these young kids who like the books. Aren't you really just offended that your time is over of being the driving demographic? Would it be appropriate for 14 year old girls to be freaking out over the same things you do?

I am more offended that largest part of the population that also should be the most intelligent has totally abdicated any sense of responsibility over the culture. I don't think it's narcissistic that I don't think like a 14 year old girl (although I do think like a 14 year old girl sometimes).
I do think the kind of media attention that this has recieved has created a warp in the space/time continuum.

[CountryBob]

I am more offended that largest part of the population that also should be the most intelligent has totally abdicated any sense of responsibility over the culture. I don't think it's narcissistic that I don't think like a 14 year old girl (although I do think like a 14 year old girl sometimes).
I do think the kind of media attention that this has recieved has created a warp in the space/time continuum.

Wasnt you the guy who let himself be tarred and feathered for the show once?

You have come a long way...

[realmenhatelife]

I am more offended that largest part of the population that also should be the most intelligent has totally abdicated any sense of responsibility over the culture. I don't think it's narcissistic that I don't think like a 14 year old girl (although I do think like a 14 year old girl sometimes).
I do think the kind of media attention that this has recieved has created a warp in the space/time continuum.

Do you think there was ever a time in modern culture where mass appear and intellectual reknown went hand in hand? Isn't one a reaction against the other and the more mainstream an idea gets the more theres a niche reaction against it?

Shall we ignore all the good things going on? You have a movie with a young, strong, female protagonist. You have a movie aimed at young people the encourages critical thinking about the establishment. Another book property being turned into a big franchise which encourages reading and the continued financial viability of books as entertainment.

I'm sorry if young people are more psyched about teenage girls overthrowing the government in some kind of wierd artemis trip than they are about an 80 year old man with muppet eyebrows trying to make us cry with a fucking orphan and a robot yammering on about silent french movies. But that was always going to be about a very small segment of the population and if it wasn't then it never would've appealed to lonely, adolescent Martin Scorcese. But everyone does have the option of ignoring it, and they've chosen not to. If we're all lemmings programmed by media to jump on the dick of everything they dump money into then explain john carter to me.

[sailor]

Heck, get upset over transformers 3 instead.

[CountryBob]

Seems society is programmed now to bich and not like anything anymore. I blame the lack of Tang in their diet.

[Crispy123]

I'm being barraged by the media. Why am I not excited?

Other than Ron and Fez, where do you give your movie reviews PaulO???

[thepaulo]

Do you think there was ever a time in modern culture where mass appear and intellectual reknown went hand in hand? Isn't one a reaction against the other and the more mainstream an idea gets the more theres a niche reaction against it?

Shall we ignore all the good things going on? You have a movie with a young, strong, female protagonist. You have a movie aimed at young people the encourages critical thinking about the establishment. Another book property being turned into a big franchise which encourages reading and the continued financial viability of books as entertainment.

I'm sorry if young people are more psyched about teenage girls overthrowing the government in some kind of wierd artemis trip than they are about an 80 year old man with muppet eyebrows trying to make us cry with a fucking orphan and a robot yammering on about silent french movies. But that was always going to be about a very small segment of the population and if it wasn't then it never would've appealed to lonely, adolescent Martin Scorcese. But everyone does have the option of ignoring it, and they've chosen not to. If we're all lemmings programmed by media to jump on the dick of everything they dump money into then explain john carter to me.

You've said a mouthful so I won't address everything.
Elements of The Hunger Games have merit but over all the execution of the writing and direction is sloppy. John Carter is simply more entertaining (at least as entertaining as Avatar or the Phantom Menace).
But The Hunger Games was a much easy marketing bet by a hundred and that leaves us where we are at.

[thepaulo]

Wasnt you the guy who let himself be tarred and feathered for the show once?

You have come a long way...

In a world...
before Fear Factor...
before Jackass...
There was one lone idiot who is single handedly responsible for the downfall of society.
Al Gore.

[realmenhatelife]

You've said a mouthful so I won't address everything.
Elements of The Hunger Games have merit but over all the execution of the writing and direction is sloppy. John Carter is simply more entertaining (at least as entertaining as Avatar or the Phantom Menace).
But The Hunger Games was a much easy marketing bet by a hundred and that leaves us where we are at.

Are you implying that The Hunger Games got a bigger marketing push than John Carter and that's the difference? Because in my opinion John Carter ads were way more pervasive. At best you can say that two movies received a hyper marketing blitzkreig and one of them happened to appeal to people more, which is in no way unfair. If you're suggesting that kids should have a widespread and active interest in fantasy franchises from the 20s I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's naive to ignore how much more relevant this story is.

Another positive, it shows that people really are interested in new kinds of stories. Obviously there are comparisons in the plot to Battle Royale or The Running Man, but you have a non remake, non sequel, much less derivative looking film thats going to major business. Thats a good thing.

[CountryBob]

In a world...
before Fear Factor...
before Jackass...
There was one lone idiot who is single handedly responsible for the downfall of society.
Al Gore.

:laugh:

[Furtherman]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6ytkCdMR1qa5mz5o1_500.jpg

[sailor]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp6ytkCdMR1qa5mz5o1_500.jpg

Woot had a hungry hippo games shirt yesterday.

[thepaulo]

Are you implying that The Hunger Games got a bigger marketing push than John Carter and that's the difference? Because in my opinion John Carter ads were way more pervasive. At best you can say that two movies received a hyper marketing blitzkreig and one of them happened to appeal to people more, which is in no way unfair. If you're suggesting that kids should have a widespread and active interest in fantasy franchises from the 20s I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment. It's naive to ignore how much more relevant this story is.

Another positive, it shows that people really are interested in new kinds of stories. Obviously there are comparisons in the plot to Battle Royale or The Running Man, but you have a non remake, non sequel, much less derivative looking film thats going to major business. Thats a good thing.

The biggest push was that the Hunger Games books were current and very popular.
The Edgar Rice Burroughs books were forgotten. At the very least they should have been revived.
The fact is Entertainment Weekly for one had three different covers over the course of a year saying sight unseen that the Hunger Games was the greatest thing ever. That was a bit much.

[Pitdoc]

If they had let EVERY inhabitant of each district participate, District 9 would have cleaned up every year:

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/reviews/4053/District_9_12499748671548.jpg

[disneyspy]

sounds like oscar is starving!

agheee ghee ghee

[realmenhatelife]

The biggest push was that the Hunger Games books were current and very popular.
The Edgar Rice Burroughs books were forgotten. At the very least they should have been revived.
The fact is Entertainment Weekly for one had three different covers over the course of a year saying sight unseen that the Hunger Games was the greatest thing ever. That was a bit much.

Entertainment Weekly is a magazine that wouldn't exist if science eliminated the need to sit down while you shit. It's hardly a paragon of journalism, they're going to go where the money is.

Look, I'm a guy who's right in the demographic meat for these genre movies. I saw lots of advertising for both of them and John Carter didn't interest me a bit, it looked like vanilla space conan vs the angry gumbys. On the other hand Hunger Games really peaked my interest, the casting, the look, the story. I'm not being manipulated, if anything I'm a negative asshole who is looking to dislike things, and I'm going to pay money to see this movie. Lately I've been hearing a lot of rationalizing of why things a person doesn't like is popular, I'm kindof done with that and I feel like Hunger Games has been eating a lot of that kind of grief.

[thepaulo]

Entertainment Weekly is a magazine that wouldn't exist if science eliminated the need to sit down while you shit. It's hardly a paragon of journalism, they're going to go where the money is.

Look, I'm a guy who's right in the demographic meat for these genre movies. I saw lots of advertising for both of them and John Carter didn't interest me a bit, it looked like vanilla space conan vs the angry gumbys. On the other hand Hunger Games really peaked my interest, the casting, the look, the story. I'm not being manipulated, if anything I'm a negative asshole who is looking to dislike things, and I'm going to pay money to see this movie. Lately I've been hearing a lot of rationalizing of why things a person doesn't like is popular, I'm kindof done with that and I feel like Hunger Games has been eating a lot of that kind of grief.

EW is above People and Us. They cover popular culture very thoroughly. They led the charge on the Hunger Games because they saw it as the next trend before the rest of the media. That doesn't make it good.
Harry Potter and Twilight are played out. The culture needed something big. The Hunger Games was that. That doesn't make it good.

I feel like The Hunger Games is getting a free pass because it seems to be the heir apparent.

There are good things about it. It's not as easily dismissable as Twilight, but it is sloppy and unfocused.

[sailor]

EW is above People and Us. They cover popular culture very thoroughly. They led the charge on the Hunger Games because they saw it as the next trend before the rest of the media. That doesn't make it good.
Harry Potter and Twilight are played out. The culture needed something big. The Hunger Games was that. That doesn't make it good.

I feel like The Hunger Games is getting a free pass because it seems to be the heir apparent.

There are good things about it. It's not as easily dismissable as Twilight, but it is sloppy and unfocused.

having now seen the movie, i can agree with it being unfocused at times. it was very enjoyable, but not as good as the first book, and i hate when people always say that, but it's true. it was close to 2.5 hours and still left out key items from the book, and altered some for seemingly no reason. they couldn't reasonably make it longer, and it wouldn't work as two movies. i still enjoyed it a lot, but it was a bit of a letdown.

[Kevin]

The author said in one of the books that the idea was taken from history of anciant Greece.

Argonauts I think, they used to do tributes like that.

[Snacks]

$155 million opening weekend in the U.S. alone and $214 million worldwide. Second biggest opening in film history only $3 million behind the Dark Knight!

[Dude!]

this tells you all
you need to know:

"Exit polling showed the audiences were 61% female and 39% male"

[cougarjake13]

this tells you all
you need to know:

"Exit polling showed the audiences were 61% female and 39% male"


Guess the transgendered community stayed away

[sailor]

this tells you all
you need to know:

"Exit polling showed the audiences were 61% female and 39% male"

Meaning?

[realmenhatelife]

EW is above People and Us. They cover popular culture very thoroughly. They led the charge on the Hunger Games because they saw it as the next trend before the rest of the media. That doesn't make it good.
Harry Potter and Twilight are played out. The culture needed something big. The Hunger Games was that. That doesn't make it good.

I feel like The Hunger Games is getting a free pass because it seems to be the heir apparent.

There are good things about it. It's not as easily dismissable as Twilight, but it is sloppy and unfocused.

The culture needing something doesn't make it good, but it doesn't make it bad either. I saw it yesterday and you have to admit it's atleast a head above its' peers.
I liked the casting and thought they showed a deft hand with young actors. You're limiting the speaking roles to the kids who can act with the exception of Cato, dolph lundgren jr, who should've been recast. But you have a really good actress as your lead, good move.

Visually they did a lot. The color palate was really precise, the costuming was great, they contained the CGI to specific events rather than just letting it proliferate. Which is good because the CGI was kindof weak. I get why you use so much shakey cam at first but I'm glad it got more subtle. I like how light and sound are used to reflect perception.

They did a good job with exposition, which is very hard in adaptations. The pacing was good, there was tension, I cared about who I was supposed to care about. There's an allusion to Shirley Jacksons The Lottery at the beginning. There's an allegory about fame that's going to be something kids will have to work to unpack. There is an amazing amount of subtext for this kind of movie, they dont retrod an idea to make sure the audience gets it. They did give Cato some depth at the end even though it was a little ham handed.

I dont agree it was unfocused, I think it was a movie done with a lot of care, passion and skill. The movie was way better than it needed to be to clear budget and I think it's showing in box office.


having now seen the movie, i can agree with it being unfocused at times. it was very enjoyable, but not as good as the first book, and i hate when people always say that, but it's true. it was close to 2.5 hours and still left out key items from the book, and altered some for seemingly no reason. they couldn't reasonably make it longer, and it wouldn't work as two movies. i still enjoyed it a lot, but it was a bit of a letdown.

I saw the movie with two people who read the book and they agreed there were things they were looking forward to, or places they had placed a lot more weight that were treated lightly in the movie. I didn't have the same reaction because I didn't read them, so the story felt very balanced to me. It wasn't like a Harry Potter where I felt like I would never be able to follow the plot had I not read the book, all of the scenes made sense to me and I felt the motivations were clear. This was probably a case where it's easier to enjoy the movie when you dont have any preconceived ideas about it.

[realmenhatelife]

Another quality thing not to be overlooked, the ending. The falling action is not overly long, and is very effective. The stakes are raised and the menace increased ahead of the next installment, which is something most movies in a series fail to do.

It's not a movie about restoring the status quo like so many movies. Person has it good, person fucks up, person works hard to have it good again. There is a line in this movie that everyone crosses, is compelled to cross, and looks around and says from now on nothing can be the same. She cant win back the life she had, everything from the point she volunteers as tribute is unknown. Removing that safety net really gives the conflict some teeth and it's something most stories dont have the balls to do.

[thepaulo]

Another quality thing not to be overlooked, the ending. The falling action is not overly long, and is very effective. The stakes are raised and the menace increased ahead of the next installment, which is something most movies in a series fail to do.

It's not a movie about restoring the status quo like so many movies. Person has it good, person fucks up, person works hard to have it good again. There is a line in this movie that everyone crosses, is compelled to cross, and looks around and says from now on nothing can be the same. She cant win back the life she had, everything from the point she volunteers as tribute is unknown. Removing that safety net really gives the conflict some teeth and it's something most stories dont have the balls to do.

All your points are reasonable.
I would like the answer to one question.
Does Donald Sutherland have alzheimer's?

[sailor]

All your points are reasonable.
I would like the answer to one question.
Does Donald Sutherland have alzheimer's?

He's on O&A in a few...

[realmenhatelife]

All your points are reasonable.
I would like the answer to one question.
Does Donald Sutherland have alzheimer's?

Sutherland was a big let down, he didn't do much and really needed one more scene to come off like a machiavelli, or a Nero, or a Ceasar, or something. You only really get a whiff of it at the end. I get they wanted a grandfatherly figure who can play the other side of the coin, and he didn't do much with it.

[sailor]

Sutherland was a big let down, he didn't do much and really needed one more scene to come off like a machiavelli, or a Nero, or a Ceasar, or something. You only really get a whiff of it at the end. I get they wanted a grandfatherly figure who can play the other side of the coin, and he didn't do much with it.

You'll see more of that aspect of him in the sequels.

[epo]

I'm being barraged by the media. Why am I not excited?

Because you saw the original 10 years ago with subtitles. Battle Royale.

[keithy_19]

So should I go see this?

[thepaulo]

So should I go see this?

Ask a 14 year old girl to go with you?

[keithy_19]

Ask a 14 year old girl to go with you?

I was going to go alone.

[thepaulo]

I was going to go alone.

All the cool people are going.

[sailor]

All the cool people are going.

With 14 year old girls.

[Fallon]

I snuck into it after seeing 21 Jump Street.

I enjoyed both.

[PapaBear]

I was going to go alone.
Wear a trechcoat and dark glasses to complete the look.

[StanUpshaw]

Watching this right now. It's not good storytelling or anything, but it's an alright movie so far. THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME IS MAN!!!!!!!

[fezident]

I believe there is a character in the book that never expresses her(?)self verbally.
How is that addressed in the book? Does she narrate? Do we hear her thoughts? Talk to herself??

(I haven't read the book, obviously.)

[CountryBob]

I snuck into it after seeing 21 Jump Street.

I enjoyed both.

Sneaking in.... What are you - like 12?

[realmenhatelife]

When I was in my late teens/early 20s I would'nt go to a movie I couldn't turn into a double feature atleast. Now you'd have to pay me to sit through two movies back to back.

[CountryBob]

I hate the name of this book/movie.

The Hunger Games - just dosent sound right.

Maybe if I knew the story it would make better sense to me.

[StanUpshaw]

I hate the name of this book/movie.

The Hunger Games - just dosent sound right.

Maybe if I knew the story it would make better sense to me.

When I heard about Hunger Games starring Jennifer Lawrence, based on the nonsensical title, I figured it had to be a sequel to Winter's Bone.

[Furtherman]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303329_379936185361373_100000349850172_1293904_209 6056076_n.jpg

[Stalker Patti]

:AWESOME movie..just saw it today! Wonder how a Society would come to this!?:unsure:

[disneyspy]

:AWESOME movie..just saw it today! Wonder how a Society would come to this!?:unsure:

if wrestlingfan ever became president

[thepaulo]

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2012&p=.htm

Why didn't the Carol Channing movie do better?

[realmenhatelife]

Not enough Channing Tatum.

[IamFogHat]

Wow a studio actually being reasonable for once.
http://www.avclub.com/articles/xmen-sequel-moved-to-accommodate-hunger-games-sequ,72058/

[thepaulo]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=57551

All things Hunger Games exist in a seperate universe. Nothing can be predicted.

[thepaulo]

http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/01/09/this-weeks-cover-catching-fire/



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http://www.mstarz.com/articles/7195/20121221/50-shades-of-grey-movie-casting-news-update-jennifer-lawrence-most-desirable-woman-perfect-anastasia-steele-still-alexis-bledel.htm


....for some snatch. This bityoch could win the oscar this year.

I'm all in.

[realmenhatelife]

So something else that occured to me about this movie is, while I already admired that the conflict of the movie does not involve returning to the status quo, and the choice that Katniss makes must be a departure no matter what she chooses and is hence a compelling and proper conflict, but I realized that the characters feel as threatened by killing as by being killed. Even the antogonists are allowed this dignity because the real villian of the franchise is the system that puts people in these positions.

The themes of the movie are advanced even for more intellectual fare. It may be short on execution and rely on some lowest common denominator stuff, but conceptually it's one of the better efforts in recent memory dealing with violence, class inequality and media all at the same time.

[disneyspy]

fuckin starvin

[thepaulo]

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheHungerGamesMovie

[thepaulo]

Hunger Games 2 is much better than the first.

[CountryBob]

Hunger Games 2 is much better than the first.

ever see the Japanese version of the original Hunger Games - Battle ROyale?
If you don't mind subtitles its pretty cool.

[realmenhatelife]

ever see the Japanese version of the original Hunger Games - Battle ROyale?
If you don't mind subtitles its pretty cool.

But is Battle Royale 2 better than Hunger Games 2?

Unlikely.

[CountryBob]

But is Battle Royale 2 better than Hunger Games 2?

Unlikely.

I would tend to agree

[thepaulo]

But is Battle Royale 2 better than Hunger Games 2?

Unlikely.

The basic concept is similar and Battle Royal came first but The Hunger Games are so much more by this point.

USA 2 VS. Japan 0

[CountryBob]

The basic concept is similar and Battle Royal came first but The Hunger Games are so much more by this point.

USA 2 VS. Japan 0

Yeah - fuck em ... the bombed Pearl Harbor

[thepaulo]

Yeah - fuck em ... the bombed Pearl Harbor

You just can't trust them not to do a sneak attack.

Or a Hari Kari, for that matter.

[CountryBob]

You just can't trust them not to do a sneak attack.

Or a Hari Kari, for that matter.

Damn, I do love their food though .... Id probably trust them if they were to feed me.

[thepaulo]

Damn, I do love their food though .... Id probably trust them if they were to feed me.

And they seem like really nice people but still, give them a sword, and there's trouble.

[sailor]

The basic concept is similar and Battle Royal came first but The Hunger Games are so much more by this point.

USA 2 VS. Japan 0

They're similar, but different in more ways that not. It's like saying all mob movies are the same.

[PapaBear]

ever see the Japanese version of the original Hunger Games - Battle ROyale?
In France, Battle Royale is called Battle Quarter Pounder.

[NewYorkDragons80]

The basic concept is similar and Battle Royal came first but The Hunger Games are so much more by this point.

USA 2 VS. Japan 0

Funny, my gf is Japanese and I introduced her to the Hunger Games about a month ago, at which point she told me about Battle Royale. Neither of us had heard of either franchise until that moment. Having read the HG books and seen each Battle Royale, I can say that HG are at least partly derivative of Battle Royale. The similarities are just too strong and I don't buy the reality show meets Iraq explanation Collins has given. Battle Royale has better action and more interesting combatants beyond the protagonists. That being said, Collins formulated a far better story beyond the battle arena that is especially prescient today. BR really exists only within the arena, limiting the social message. Hunger Games wins.

[cougarjake13]

The basic concept is similar and Battle Royal came first but The Hunger Games are so much more by this point.

USA 2 VS. Japan 0


esp after Eric Roberts beat that guy with one broken shoulder

[realmenhatelife]

esp after Eric Roberts beat that guy with one broken shoulder

Yeah but Tommy wouldn't super kick eye patch to death AND eye patch killed Tommy's brother. So really we're tied 2-2.

[realmenhatelife]

And Battle Royal is about social discipline in Japan, Hunger Games is about media in America. So if you put it like that they dont sound similar at all.

Like how Benjamin Buttons and Forest Gump are actually about complete opposite things despite their superficial similarity.

[NewYorkDragons80]

And Battle Royal is about social discipline in Japan, Hunger Games is about media in America. So if you put it like that they dont sound similar at all.

Like how Benjamin Buttons and Forest Gump are actually about complete opposite things despite their superficial similarity.

Like I said, I think HG has a much deeper/better story than BR. A lot of the similarities could be coincidental, but what really convinced me was the fact that in both stories there should only be a single victor, but 2 young lovers manage to skirt the rules and survive to challenge a tyrannical government. That's just too much for me.

[realmenhatelife]

Like I said, I think HG has a much deeper/better story than BR. A lot of the similarities could be coincidental, but what really convinced me was the fact that in both stories there should only be a single victor, but 2 young lovers manage to skirt the rules and survive to challenge a tyrannical government. That's just too much for me.

I think thats just a consequence of story telling, though. The way that happens is different in each case but in the end you are making a commercial movie.


Like when people are mad that characters that are explicitly ugly in a book are not ugly in the movie. It's the movie industry, theres only so much ugly we can muster.

[sailor]

If it was a Stephen King book/movie it could have had a different ending, but it's written for young girls. Pretty formulaic, nothing else would have worked to that crowd.

[newport king]

esp after Eric Roberts beat that guy with one broken shoulder


Wasnt it Korea? Racists.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I think thats just a consequence of story telling, though. The way that happens is different in each case but in the end you are making a commercial movie.


Like when people are mad that characters that are explicitly ugly in a book are not ugly in the movie. It's the movie industry, theres only so much ugly we can muster.

I'm not complaining about the plot point, I'm simply pointing out that it's too similar to Battle Royale to be a coincidence.

[thepaulo]

Wasnt it Korea? Racists.

Watch out for Kim-jong Un.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim-jong_Un

[SonOfSmeagol]

Watch out for Kim-jong Un.
what are these guys writing?

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/54/549190/kim-jong-un-visits-kosan-fruit-farm-L-DbymMa.jpeg
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/This-photo-shows-North-Korean-leader-Kim-Jong-Un-visiting-a-machine-plant-in-North-Phyongan-Province-AFP.jpg
http://www.nknews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Kim-Jong-Un-Hamhung-690x360.jpg

[PapaBear]

what are these guys writing?




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