Looper

[Furtherman]

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[pennington]

Looks good...and it's an original idea. I'm a sucker for time-travel movies anyway.

[Chigworthy]

Looks good...and it's an original idea. I'm a sucker for time-travel movies anyway.

You already said that.

[Pitdoc]

You already said that.

Yes, but in what reality did he say that?

[RoseBlood]

Joseph Gordon Levitt :wub:

[underdog]

More like pooper.

[RoseBlood]

I like it in the pooper.

You don't say!? :ohmy:

[cougarjake13]

Looks cool but how does he know that it's the future him

[Furtherman]

Comes out this weekend!

[sailor]

This is the other movie I'm looking forward to seeing. Mark it on your lists.

[cougarjake13]

definitely gonna check it out

if for nothing else to see why jgl face looks different in this movie
some scenes it looks like him and others not so much

[Furtherman]

definitely gonna check it out

if for nothing else to see why jgl face looks different in this movie
some scenes it looks like him and others not so much

His face was changed, through prostetic makeup, to make him look more like a younger Bruce Willis, or at least his character.

[cougarjake13]

His face was changed, through prostetic makeup, to make him look more like a younger Bruce Willis, or at least his character.



ah ok

usually they don't go to that extent in a movie when they do have younger and older versions
maybe cause this one centers on both of them being at the same place at same time for a lot of the movie

[Furtherman]

Did anyone else see it?

I finally got to over the weekend. It was a great, solid sci-fi flick. The time travel mechanics were great and the story really worked. A good look into the future without being too exaggerated. JGL played a perfect young Bruce Willis. Good action without being over the top and a performance by a kid which might go down as one of the creepiest since Damien in the Omen.

Plus Emily Blunt is just amazing.

It will probably be available on demand soon but definately worth checking out if you are a fan of the genre.

[deliciousV]

Did anyone else see it?

I finally got to over the weekend. It was a great, solid sci-fi flick. The time travel mechanics were great and the story really worked. A good look into the future without being too exaggerated. JGL played a perfect young Bruce Willis. Good action without being over the top and a performance by a kid which might go down as one of the creepiest since Damien in the Omen.

Plus Emily Blunt is just amazing.

It will probably be available on demand soon but definately worth checking out if you are a fan of the genre.

I watched it a week or so ago, I enjoyed it for the most point, but I found the whole swerve at the end kinda ruined it for me, it was a great story line and great acting that flowed nicely, that really bizzare shit annoyed me and was unnecassary. They could have had the same ending without the crazy kid with the wizardry

[Furtherman]

I watched it a week or so ago, I enjoyed it for the most point, but I found the whole swerve at the end kinda ruined it for me, it was a great story line and great acting that flowed nicely, that really bizzare shit annoyed me and was unnecassary. They could have had the same ending without the crazy kid with the wizardry

Well, his mother was TK and they explained how 10% of the population developed those powers. He was the next step in that evolution. Very X-Men-ish, but I think it worked when they talked about the Rainmaker coming out of nowhere and causing so much trouble himself. He was too powerful. Plus that kid gave one hell of a performance as a f'd up creepy kid. I could totally see him going nuts on the world.

[deliciousV]

Well, his mother was TK and they explained how 10% of the population developed those powers. He was the next step in that evolution. Very X-Men-ish, but I think it worked when they talked about the Rainmaker coming out of nowhere and causing so much trouble himself. He was too powerful. Plus that kid gave one hell of a performance as a f'd up creepy kid. I could totally see him going nuts on the world.

everything you're saying is true, and that kid was amazing in that roll. I guess it was just too far for me. I'm already suspending disbelief for the time travel story, then the TK was explained as basically a parler trick for floating coins. Then this kid starts causing earthquakes and wind with his mind, that just took me out of the rest of it. Young Bruce coulda killed himself to stop old Bruce from killing the kid without all the firestarter bullshit and it still woulda been a great ending. That's just me.

[pennington]

It was a great, solid sci-fi flick. The time travel mechanics were great and the story really worked. A good look into the future without being too exaggerated. JGL played a perfect young Bruce Willis. Good action without being over the top and a performance by a kid which might go down as one of the creepiest since Damien in the Omen.

Plus Emily Blunt is just amazing.

I just saw it; it is out on DVD. I agree with the above assessment. Well worth the time.

[deliciousV]

I just saw it; it is out on DVD. I agree with the above assessment. Well worth the time.

I liked it right up until the last bit, the whole fire starter swerve seemed unnecassary.

[pennington]

I liked it right up until the last bit, the whole fire starter swerve seemed unnecassary.

I guess, but:

Then there would have to be another reason for his older self to want to kill the kid. The love of the Asian girl redeemed his older self and the love of the blond hooker redeemed his younger self. But the hooker wouldn't have fallen in love with him, and he wouldn't have sacrificed himself, if he wasn't trying to save the kid. I think it was an OK plot devise for the kid to be psychologically scarred and to have psychic powers (although I guess he could have turned into a psychotic murderer without it).

[deliciousV]

I guess, but:

Then there would have to be another reason for his older self to want to kill the kid. The love of the Asian girl redeemed his older self and the love of the blond hooker redeemed his younger self. But the hooker wouldn't have fallen in love with him, and he wouldn't have sacrificed himself, if he wasn't trying to save the kid. I think it was an OK plot devise for the kid to be psychologically scarred and to have psychic powers (although I guess he could have turned into a psychotic murderer without it).

I got all that, but I just thought that young looper could have fell for the chick and her kid in the same way, and then ended it in the same way without all the earth shaking and the wind. It seemed enough to suspend disbelief for all the time travel, but adding the psychic control of the elements crossed a line.

[pennington]

I got all that, but I just thought that young looper could have fell for the chick and her kid in the same way, and then ended it in the same way without all the earth shaking and the wind. It seemed enough to suspend disbelief for all the time travel, but adding the psychic control of the elements crossed a line.

Yeah, maybe they added that to differentiate it a little more from "Terminator". Or more likely some studio committee said "There's too much talking, it needs a bigger ending with special effects".

[deliciousV]

Yeah, maybe they added that to differentiate it a little more from "Terminator". Or more likely some studio committee said "There's too much talking, it needs a bigger ending with special effects".

could be, I guess I mostly liked it, like I said, parts were unnesassary and kind of took me out of it. I wasn't sorry I watched it, just a little dissappointed with the ending.

[sailor]

Finally saw it. Liked it a lot. The kid having these powers is integral to the entire story; don't see how it took you out if it. The one thing that bothered me was they were saying the rainmaker was closing all these loops in the future, but wasn't that part of all their contracts, that the loops would be closed thirty years in the future? Am I missing something or would Bruce Willis have been sent back with or without the rainmaker?

[keithy_19]

Bruce Willis was in this movie. He was also in other movies too.

[Pitdoc]

Finally saw it. Liked it a lot. The kid having these powers is integral to the entire story; don't see how it took you out if it. The one thing that bothered me was they were saying the rainmaker was closing all these loops in the future, but wasn't that part of all their contracts, that the loops would be closed thirty years in the future? Am I missing something or would Bruce Willis have been sent back with or without the rainmaker?

I think the Rainmaker( the kid all grown up) was trying to kill Bruce Willis BEFORE he killed his mother . Its why he was sending all the loopers back to be killed by their past selves.Maybe he didn't remember the name of the looper (Willis ) who killed his mother,so just decided to kill them all. The question never ASKED in this movie is... if these mobsters are actually MOBSTERS, why send them back at all, and just whack them in their present? Lot cheaper than taping gold to someone's back

[sailor]

I think the Rainmaker( the kid all grown up) was trying to kill Bruce Willis BEFORE he killed his mother . Its why he was sending all the loopers back to be killed by their past selves.Maybe he didn't remember the name of the looper (Willis ) who killed his mother,so just decided to kill them all. The question never ASKED in this movie is... if these mobsters are actually MOBSTERS, why send them back at all, and just whack them in their present? Lot cheaper than taping gold to someone's back

My problem is, they all accepted this...why act like it's an unusual practice?

And if they did away with the gold, no one would sign up for the work.

[Pitdoc]

My problem is, they all accepted this...why act like it's an unusual practice?

And if they did away with the gold, no one would sign up for the work.

Its a part of the future that they never really explained,but its the reasoning for the whole movie. If you whack a guy and burn up his body , how does the "government" find out you did it, and who you are ? Its the only real REASON to have Loopers in the first place .

[cougarjake13]

Just watched it


Heres a question I have


people get sent back to be killed
For 30 years they kill untold amounts of people
contract is up and if still alive sent back to kill themselves

then younger self lives 30 years with money doing whatever

Doesnt that erase all the kills they made for 30 years since they're not there to kill any more

[sailor]

I don't follow, could you be more specific. I don't see any paradox, but I want to make sure I know who/when you're referencing.

[cougarjake13]

Ok


Maybe I missed something but I thought that they were loopers for some amount of time

lets say 10 or 20 or 30 years

then one day theyre older self shows up and they have to kill him to close the loop and they get paid for it and go off and spend next 30 years living up the life



wouldnt that negate all the people tjey killed bc now instead of being in field to kill the guys theyre off traveling the world

[Pitdoc]

Ok


Maybe I missed something but I thought that they were loopers for some amount of time

lets say 10 or 20 or 30 years

then one day theyre older self shows up and they have to kill him to close the loop and they get paid for it and go off and spend next 30 years living up the life



wouldnt that negate all the people tjey killed bc now instead of being in field to kill the guys theyre off traveling the world


No, because their YOUNGER selves did the killing, then they spent 30 years in "retirement" . The mob bosses then waited 30 yrs , then found them & sent them back to be killed by their younger self as their LAST kill( before retirement) So anybody they killed up to that point was dead When THEY were sent back to be killed ,they hadn't killed anybody for 30 yrs, so there was no paradox.

[cougarjake13]

So youre saying that they only killed for like 1 year and the other 29 thwy just lived normally til their older selves showed up and they killed them and lived the retirement life

Cause at one point in the history timeline they had to live with no retirement bc that had not happened yet


Or are we just assuming were watching from well beyond that part when story unfolds?

[sailor]

So youre saying that they only killed for like 1 year and the other 29 thwy just lived normally til their older selves showed up and they killed them and lived the retirement life

Cause at one point in the history timeline they had to live with no retirement bc that had not happened yet


Or are we just assuming were watching from well beyond that part when story unfolds?

No, they keep killing people sent back to them for however many years they do it, until their old self is sent back and killed. From that moment on they are "retired" until they grow old and are then sent back and killed. We start the movie from the point where he should be "retired" except he failed to do his job. You see later in the movie how he lived his life until the point they captured him to send him back.

[cougarjake13]

Ok so I think I got it now

He no longer kills as a looper after he kills his future self

[sailor]

Ok so I think I got it now

He no longer kills as a looper after he kills his future self

Yeah, that's his last kill that gets him out of the business.

[cougarjake13]

I guess I assumed he killed for those 30 years originally then got sent back around year 5 or so