Elizabeth Warren, Tribeswoman

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Originally I wasnt going to start a thread about it but there's a new story about her. She put native American on her law school directories so she can associate herself with other Indians and not to claim minority status for potential jobs.


Warren is 1/32 Indian. Her great, great, great grandmother was Cherokee. Heres her latest line


http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/03/elizabeth-warren-still-scrambling-to-explain-her-native-american-minority-claim/



Can we call her Squaw Running Mouth ?

[Crispy123]

Originally I wasnt going to start a thread about it but there's a new story about her. She put native American on her law school directories so she can associate herself with other Indians and not to claim minority status for potential jobs.


Warren is 1/32 Indian. Her great, great, great grandmother was Cherokee. Heres her latest line


http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/03/elizabeth-warren-still-scrambling-to-explain-her-native-american-minority-claim/



Can we call her Squaw Running Mouth ?


We can call her whatever we want, fox-news boy.

I'm sure that dirty woman is just dying to check off minority on any application she can. Cuz everything I know i learn from the Glenn O'Hannity (http://www.native-american-online.org/genealogy.htm#Blood).

[OGC]

Yeah, I can see the Cherokee traits in her face


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/09/03/news/photos_stories/cropped/031_elizabeth_warren--300x300.jpg

[Crispy123]

Yeah, I can see the Cherokee traits in her face


http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/09/03/news/photos_stories/cropped/031_elizabeth_warren--300x300.jpg

which traits would that be?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

We can call her whatever we want, fox-news boy.

I'm sure that dirty woman is just dying to check off minority on any application she can. Cuz everything I know i learn from the Glenn O'Hannity (http://www.native-american-online.org/genealogy.htm#Blood).

Fox news boy. How cute.

The Indian in the village people is more authentic

[Crispy123]

Fox news boy. How cute.

The Indian in the village people is more authentic

almost as cute as manufactured political outrage and passive aggresive racism.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Warren put it out there that shes Native American and is doubling down trying to claim her background. A blonde haired blue eyed lady checked off Native American to advance herself.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

almost as cute as manufactured political outrage and passive aggresive racism.


Wow, youre consistent. Fox news, racism, why don't you just say that I hate blueberry pie

[Crispy123]

Warren put it out there that shes Native American and is doubling down trying to claim her background. A blonde haired blue eyed lady checked off Native American to advance herself.

No shit, fox news boy.

and if she is cherokee nation other than NC, she has every fucking right to quadruple down on that claim.

Wow, youre consistent. Fox news, racism, why don't you just say that I hate blueberry pie

so pointing out YOUR bullshit means I'm the problem, right?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No shit, fox news boy.

and if she is cherokee nation other than NC, she has every fucking right to quadruple down on that claim.

Warren wants to claim a background with 1/32 Indian Blood in her? The hackery of your defense of her is laughable.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

No shit, fox news boy.

and if she is cherokee nation other than NC, she has every fucking right to quadruple down on that claim.



so pointing out YOUR bullshit means I'm the problem, right?

What Bullshit. Everything out of your mouth is Fox news, Holy fuck , did Megyn Kelly refuse to go on a date with you?

[Crispy123]

Warren wants to claim a background with 1/32 Indian Blood in her? The hackery of your defense of her is laughable.

did you read the link I posted, do any investigating into who can claim tribal affiliation, or just turn on Fox news and run to .net to post more stupid shit???

And is it already hack to defend a nonstory that broke yesterday? or is your understanding of the term hack as in-depth as your understanding of native american bloodlines?

Bullshit is exactly what any thread started by you is.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

did you read the link I posted, do any investigating into who can claim tribal affiliation, or just turn on Fox news and run to .net and post more stupid shit???

And is it already hack to defend a nonstory that broke yesterday? or is your understanding of the term hack as in-depth as your understanding of native american bloodlines?

So what she has 1/32 Cherokee blood. And you wanna say bullshit? Her comment about wanting to have more Indian friends is a complete bullshit line. She used that for affirmative action purposes, how gullible are you to believe her?

But keep saying Fox News

[realmenhatelife]

I do hate blueberry pie.

[disneyspy]

I do hate blueberry pie.

smurf hater!!

[Crispy123]

So what she has 1/32 Cherokee blood. And you wanna say bullshit? Her comment about wanting to have more Indian friends is a complete bullshit line. She used that for affirmative action purposes, how gullible are you to believe her?

But keep saying Fox News

I know it bothers the shit out of you when its pointed out, FNB. And I agree, you are complete bullshit.

Why do I even attempt to interpret your lazy right wing arguments?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I know it bothers the shit out of you when its pointed out, FNB. And I agree, you are complete bullshit.

Why do I even attempt to interpret your lazy right wing arguments?

Bullshit is saying Native American to join a club , instead of being honest and saying it was used to further your career when youre 31/32 non native American.

[Crispy123]

Bullshit is saying Native American to join a club , instead of being honest and saying it was used to further your career when youre 31/32 non native American.

nope.

[realmenhatelife]

smurf hater!!

Jenny and I are tight, I just cant get down with that pie.

Wait, what?

[Recyclerz]

Originally I wasnt going to start a thread about it but there's a new story about her. She put native American on her law school directories so she can associate herself with other Indians and not to claim minority status for potential jobs.


Warren is 1/32 Indian. Her great, great, great grandmother was Cherokee. Heres her latest line


http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/03/elizabeth-warren-still-scrambling-to-explain-her-native-american-minority-claim/



Can we call her Squaw Running Mouth ?



Pretty soon you'll be calling her Senator Warren. Your guys fucked up by stonewalling her appointment to the consumer protection thing. She would have become an obscure bureaucrat - now she's going to be a Lefty star in the Senate.

Plus she can open her own casino and cut into Foxwood's take even further.

[realmenhatelife]

I'll join in with you fellas. She objectively is or isn't of native american descent. Isn't WF's real issue with how little ancestry can be used to claim ethnicity? If he's going to be honest he doesn't have a problem with her at all, he has a problem with the system.

[sailor]

Keep it civil, you guys.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Pretty soon you'll be calling her Senator Warren. Your guys fucked up by stonewalling her appointment to the consumer protection thing. She would have become an obscure bureaucrat - now she's going to be a Lefty star in the Senate.

Plus she can open her own casino and cut into Foxwood's take even further.

Maybe she can open more smokeshops in MA. Tax free tobacco products.

[Recyclerz]

Maybe she can open more smokeshops in MA. Tax free tobacco products.

I got peyote for kicking into her campaign warchest.

[Crispy123]

so you don't know what hack means.

I really have to try and remember not take stupidity in others personally.

[OGC]

Keep it civil, you guys.


Yeah, why don't we all just smoke a peace pipe ?

[Jujubees2]

Sen. Scott Brown Criticized for Keeping Daughter on His Health Insurance (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/sen-scott-brown-criticized-for-keeping-daughter-on-his-health-insurance/)

[Crispy123]

I'll join in with you fellas. She objectively is or isn't of native american descent. Isn't WF's real issue with how little ancestry can be used to claim ethnicity? If he's going to be honest he doesn't have a problem with her at all, he has a problem with the system.

Now, this is a compelling discussion. Of course it requires critical thinking and not nearly as much fun as thinly veiled racism or regurgitating talking points from the "fn friends."

Personally, I think this country owes a huge debt to the native american community that can never (and wont) be repayed, so more tribes should accept the "any degree" of ancestry claim to get citizenship in their nation.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Warren has to go back a couple hundred of years to claim Indian blood and her fucking excuse that it was to meet new friends is just digging herself deeper.


She used it for her own advancement.

As far as Brown, Im sure Warren uses all the Bush tax cut deductions for her income taxes

[realmenhatelife]

Now, this is a compelling discussion. Of course it requires critical thinking and not nearly as much fun as thinly veiled racism or regurgitating talking points from the "fn friends."

Personally, I think this country owes a huge debt to the native american community that can never (and wont) be repayed, so more tribes should accept the "any degree" of ancestry claim to get citizenship in their nation.

Well we cant repay it, we didn't leave enough of them around to write a check to. But that's a good point, it's hard to argue that you're too little of a certain race to be offended by its' genocide.

[Crispy123]

Warren has to go back a couple hundred of years to claim Indian blood and her fucking excuse that it was to meet new friends is just digging herself deeper.


She used it for her own advancement.

I bet if we had more tribes accepting people, then everyone would try to have American Indian anchor babies. Amirite or amirite????

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I am a 2nd Generation American of Italian background, If I go back and trace my genealogy and somehow I was related to Caesar, can I claim Royal blood?

[Crispy123]

who gives a shit?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, why don't we all just smoke a peace pipe ?

And drink some fire water

[Recyclerz]

I am a 2nd Generation American of Italian background, If I go back and trace my genealogy and somehow I was related to Caesar, can I claim Royal blood?

Sicilian?

http://www.gmanreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/True-Romance-Dennis-Hopper.jpg


/just kidding.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sicilian?

http://www.gmanreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/True-Romance-Dennis-Hopper.jpg


/just kidding.

If I do have Sicilian blood going way way back, can I claim I'm African American?

Maybe I can claim Latino since many Italians are descended from Nomads of the Iberian peninsula

[cougarjake13]

We're all monkey cavemen fish people

Just deal and move on

[StanUpshaw]

Now, this is a compelling discussion. Of course it requires critical thinking and not nearly as much fun as thinly veiled racism or regurgitating talking points from the "fn friends."

Personally, I think this country owes a huge debt to the native american community that can never (and wont) be repayed, so more tribes should accept the "any degree" of ancestry claim to get citizenship in their nation.

Sorry, I'm not a big fan of Original Sin.

[Crispy123]

Sorry, I'm not a big fan of Original Sin.

I accept your apology. What sin are you referring to?

[Dan 'Hampton]

Of course he's Sicilian. It's a disgrace to even call him Italian.

[StanUpshaw]

Native Americans are lucky. They probably committed unspeakable cruelties to each other, but we'll never know about it since none of them ever bothered to invent the written word.

Americans get to feel guilty because our ancestors were literate.

[Crispy123]

Native Americans are lucky. They probably committed unspeakable cruelties to each other, but we'll never know about it since none of them ever bothered to invent the written word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiigwaasabak

or we can't read their writings because the Europeans destroyed them but whatever helps you sleep at night.

[spoon]

Native Americans are lucky. They probably committed unspeakable cruelties to each other, but we'll never know about it since none of them ever bothered to invent the written word.

Americans get to feel guilty because our ancestors were literate.

cute

so lucky indeed :wallbash:

[epo]

cute

so lucky indeed :wallbash:

They were lucky to get those warm blankets.

:thumbdown:

[StanUpshaw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiigwaasabak

or we can't read their writings because the Europeans destroyed them but whatever helps you sleep at night.

I sleep just fine, because like I said, I reject the concept of Original Sin.

YOU should have trouble sleeping, given the fact that you gleefully participated in the very institution that was responsible for the murder and torment of the indigenous peoples. Remember? Of the two of us, you're the only one who signed up to be a paid killer.

[Crispy123]

I sleep just fine, because like I said, I reject the concept of Original Sin.

You keep saying this. What sin did the Indians commit?

YOU should have trouble sleeping, given the fact that you gleefully participated in the very institution that was responsible for the murder and torment of the indigenous peoples. Remember? Of the two of us, you're the only one who signed up to be a paid killer.

yes I did. And the US government signed a treaty with those people long before I enlisted. You're welcome for your government handout, btw.

[StanUpshaw]

You keep saying this. What sin did the Indians commit?


Not the Indians. I'm referring to your implication that I should feel guilty about atrocities that have absolutely no connection to my actions in any imaginable way.

To say that I'm responsible for wrongdoings that were committed:
A) By the government under which I happened to have been born
B) Centuries before I existed
C) Against individuals who died centuries ago

it's the same as saying that I need to seek redemption because Adam and Eve ate the apple. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin)

[Crispy123]

Not the Indians. I'm referring to your implication that I should feel guilty about atrocities that have absolutely no connection to my actions in any imaginable way.


Aha! Now I see the problem. You have gleaned something from my words that is not there. Again, I can't take other peoples stupidity personally.

The only implication of my words was that you know the Native Americans have written history and were denying it in an attempt at getting some sort of rise out of me.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The 1st Americans might not have been Asiatic people who crossed the landbridge and made their way south


Solutreans might have been here thousands of years before the people we call Native Americans. The Solutreans may have originated from the Iberian peninsula


Also many of the Indian tribes held slaves and waged war on each other. One of the largest tribes to hold African slaves. The Cherokees

[cougarjake13]

And what does that mean ?

WHO cares

Let's get drunk

[StanUpshaw]

Aha! Now I see the problem. You have gleaned something from my words that is not there. Again, I can't take other peoples stupidity personally.

The only implication of my words was that you know the Native Americans have written history and were denying it in an attempt at getting some sort of rise out of me.

I have to hand it to you...you have evasion down to a science.

[Crispy123]

I have to hand it to you...you have evasion down to a science.

And you like to attribute the techniques you use in an argument to others. Its quite annoying but effective at putting your opponents on the defensive.

Also, I enjoy your feigned ignorance as to what evasion means.

[booster11373]

So why does anyone still respond to him?

[spoon]

So why does anyone still respond to him?

who?

:tongue:

[pennington]

Back to topic, so she pulled a scam and it came back to haunt her. She is just getting herself in deeper by trying to justify it. She should have said she took advantage of the system but looking back, it was wrong and she shouldn't have done it.

But the bigger question is what has happened to Massachusetts? Remember the good-old-days when a man drove his car into the water and left the girl in it to die? He would still be Senator if it hadn't been for that brain tumor. And now people are worried about someone exaggerating about their ethnic background.

Is Elizabeth Warren's real problem her family, but in another way? Is it that they didn't make millions bootlegging whiskey during Prohibition (and then spread it around before the election)?

[spoon]

you're only making me like her family more

her heart is in the right place to me on so much, I couldn't care less about this attempt to claim some small tie to native americans

is it true? sounds like it is no matter how small

[A.J.]

When I heard the story, this was my reaction.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100221072518/uncyclopedia/images/d/d7/Crying_Indian_screenshot.png

[KnoxHarrington]

I love this tactic of the right: get the rubes all upset about something a left-leaning politician says or does so that they won't actually pay any attention to his or her actual policies. So that they won't suddenly say "Hey, maybe this is better for me than letting the Republicans continue to fuck me in the ass to give the ultra-rich anothe tax break."

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So does Warren think someone making over 250,000 wampum per year as rich?


Maybe she will lobby for visits to the medicine man under Obamacare

[spoon]

Booooo as always.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Back to topic, so she pulled a scam and it came back to haunt her. She is just getting herself in deeper by trying to justify it. She should have said she took advantage of the system but looking back, it was wrong and she shouldn't have done it.

But the bigger question is what has happened to Massachusetts? Remember the good-old-days when a man drove his car into the water and left the girl in it to die? He would still be Senator if it hadn't been for that brain tumor. And now people are worried about someone exaggerating about their ethnic background.

Is Elizabeth Warren's real problem her family, but in another way? Is it that they didn't make millions bootlegging whiskey during Prohibition (and then spread it around before the election)?


Theres the other Senator who married up, complains that taxes are too low but he docks his Yacht in Rhode Island because he saves 500k in taxes. Taxes? those are for the little people

[Dan 'Hampton]

Why don't you just worry bout your shitty state. Us here in MA are doing alright.

[Dude!]

i don't know why you lefties
are defending this lying skank...
she's the phoniest, self-serving democrat
piece of shit since John Edwards

a little advice:
if you guys want to win that seat
you should dump Pochahontas fast
and find yourself an alcoholic Kennedy kid...
it's your only chance to win that seat

[hanso]

When I heard the story, this was my reaction.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100221072518/uncyclopedia/images/d/d7/Crying_Indian_screenshot.png

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[WRESTLINGFAN]

i don't know why you lefties
are defending this lying skank...
she's the phoniest, self-serving democrat
piece of shit since John Edwards

a little advice:
if you guys want to win that seat
you should dump Pochahontas fast
and find yourself an alcoholic Kennedy kid...
it's your only chance to win that seat

Kennedy tribe love to drinkem Fire Water.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why don't you just worry bout your shitty state. Us here in MA are doing alright.

What are you saying my state has a senator who's a war hero who went to Vietnam.


Oh wait.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/richard-blumenthal-vietnam_n_579656.html

[epo]

I love this tactic of the right: get the rubes all upset about something a left-leaning politician says or does so that they won't actually pay any attention to his or her actual policies. So that they won't suddenly say "Hey, maybe this is better for me than letting the Republicans continue to fuck me in the ass to give the ultra-rich another tax break."

Why pay attention to the fact that she's standing up for the working class, when we could talk about a non-issue?

[Crispy123]

Why pay attention to the fact that she's standing up for the working class, when we could talk about a non-issue?

cuz thats right-wing capitalism silly.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Warren is the female Ward Churchill who is less authentic than the Indian mannequin in front of the cigar store. Remember him claiming to be Indian?


She abused her very small amount of Indian blood to advance herself and then digs herself deeper when called out trying to explain their justifications

Brown is no way a great Senator as he turned out to be another big gov't RINO


It won't shock me if the Massholes elect Warren. After all they kept sending Kennedy's carcass back to DC

[A.J.]

It won't shock me if the Massholes elect Warren. After all they kept sending Kennedy's carcass back to DC

Yeah, and look at the CT Congressional delegation.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yeah, and look at the CT Congressional delegation.

True we have Blumenthal and Lieberman (not much longer)

Dodd has a cushy job as head of the MPAA

[A.J.]

And don't forget my beloved former Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro.

[KnoxHarrington]

I guarantee you that whatever state the rest of you are in, your Senators are better than mine. I'm represented by a scumbag and a nutbar. I don't know which is worse.

At least my governor isn't as fucked up as Epo's, though. Jesus Christ is that guy a douche.

[StanUpshaw]

Why pay attention to the fact that she's standing up for the working class, when we could talk about a non-issue?

Because it's important to expose an opportunist who might be willing to do or say anything in the pursuit of more power for herself [power over you and I].

[Crispy123]

and dont forget how important it is to expose someone with Native American heritage who might be willing to say they have Native American heritage.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If I take a picture of Clooney from 20 feet away with my I Phone does that qualify me as a Paparazzo?

[StanUpshaw]

I ran .8125 miles once. Does that make me a marathon runner?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/392413_10151175678969657_982775073_n.jpg

[spoon]

If I take a picture of Clooney from 20 feet away with my I Phone does that qualify me as a Paparazzo?

I ran .8125 miles once. Does that make me a marathon runner?

nope

completely different

so booooo again

[Crispy123]

nope

completely different

so booooo again

If only there was some sort of metric in place to answer these questions.

[StanUpshaw]

If only there was some sort of metric in place to answer these questions.

Even if some website can magically anoint you an indian, it's moot since she can't even prove the 1/32nd claim!

"High cheek bones"

What a joke.

[spoon]

and this helps her in the election how?

who cares

vote for or against her on her direction and potential policy

I get your point on saying anything to get advancement, but it's just such a non-issue and sad attempt to create news where there really isn't any. Politics on both sides as per the norm I guess. Bc seriously, does anyone get influenced in either direction on such an issue or bs like this? It only gets the other side to look enraged and the attacked side look defensive. Over and over, it's the same fucking cycle.

[StanUpshaw]

and this helps her in the election how?

who cares

vote for or against her on her direction and potential policy

I get your point on saying anything to get advancement, but it's just such a non-issue and sad attempt to create news where there really isn't any. Politics on both sides as per the norm I guess. Bc seriously, does anyone get influenced in either direction on such an issue or bs like this? It only gets the other side to look enraged and the attacked side look defensive. Over and over, it's the same fucking cycle.

I don't give a fuck, I just like to argue.

[Crispy123]

Even if some website can magically anoint you an indian, it's moot since she can't even prove the 1/32nd claim!


It is the tribe that would grant citizenship.

She can't prove she has a great grandmother? Now I can see what the controversy is all about.

[hanso]

I love this tactic of the right: get the rubes all upset about something a left-leaning politician says or does so that they won't actually pay any attention to his or her actual policies. So that they won't suddenly say "Hey, maybe this is better for me than letting the Republicans continue to fuck me in the ass to give the ultra-rich anothe tax break."

This^

To me this isn't even worth looking into. If it was something it would have coverage, but even then it's the make something from nothing with talking points and the like.

Like the last deal with the speech she made, a good one imo. But twist away it's the only game they know how to play.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thats the unintended consequences of affirmative action. The people it was meant to assist get fucked over by hacks like Warren who have a microscopic amount of Indian DNA in her. The Navajo who lived on the reservation all his life gets bumped by some paleface with 1/32 Cherokee in her.


But shes got the cheekbones

[Crispy123]

you are pathetic.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Warren is pathetic.

Fixed

[Crispy123]

sure that fits the racism.

btw, assistance for native americans is an INTENDED consequence of affirmative action.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

sure that fits the racism.

btw, assistance for native americans is an INTENDED consequence of affirmative action.

Warren ain't an Indian regardless of her cheekbones

[Crispy123]

Warren ain't an Indian regardless of her cheekbones

The Cherokee and Delaware Nations say otherwise. No matter how much it offends your fox news talking points.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Cherokee and Delaware Nations say otherwise. No matter how much it offends your fox news talking points.

Looks like Warren got some splainin to do


http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/30/native-american-group-elizabeth-warren-better-be-able-to-defend-ancestry-claim/#ixzz1tcWGYqsC

[Crispy123]

aha! so now you are changing the argument to she's NOT 1/32 Native American. classic WF.

Like I said before to Stan, if she really does not have a great grandmother then the shit will most definitely hit the fan.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im saying that 1/32 Indian is nt a minority


Thsts like saying 15,000 people in Yankee stadium is a big crowd

[Crispy123]

Im saying that 1/32 Indian is nt a minority

yes, I have gathered that and you are WRONG (http://www.native-american-online.org/genealogy.htm#Blood).

but of course when WF finally figures out he is WRONG, he changes the argument.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yes, I have gathered that and you are WRONG.

but of course when WF finally figures out he is WRONG, he changes the argument.

What math logic are you using? Shes 31/32 Caucasian. Shes not a minority.

[Crispy123]

I am not going to read the internet to you.

I have posted the link twice.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I am not going to read the internet to you.

I have posted the link twice.

I saw the link already.


Since the 1st traces of man point to Africa, Can I claim that African blood ? I should have known all this time that I could have taken advantage of affirmative action like Warren did

[Crispy123]

If only there was some sort of metric in place to answer these questions.

rinse and repeat.

[StanUpshaw]

rinse and repeat.

Foiled by your own appeal to bureaucracy:

Ramirez said anyone who claims in writing to be a Native American should have some sort of supporting documentation. “If you’re a member of a federally recognized tribe, then that means you would have a tribal enrollment number,” he said.

[Crispy123]

Foiled by your own appeal to bureaucracy:

How am I foiled?

If she's not 1/32nd, as WF has been claiming all along, then fuck her.

But that has not been the argument until about 20 minutes ago.

[StanUpshaw]

How am I foiled?

If she's not 1/32nd then fuck her.

But that has not been the argument until about 20 minutes ago.

She's not an Indian because she didn't send in her boxtops to get an ID badge. You're NOT a Native American unless a tribe recognizes you. Rules are rules Mr. Internet Linker.

[Crispy123]

She's not an Indian because she didn't send in her boxtops to get an ID badge. You're NOT a Native American unless a tribe recognizes you. Rules are rules Mr. Internet Linker.

I have been saying this all along, thanks for reading tho. It is WF that has been claiming she is 1/32 Native American.

9th post in this thread:
and if she is cherokee nation other than NC, she has every fucking right to quadruple down on that claim.

sounds like it might be explained soon enough:

Elizabeth Warren campaign, challenged on Native American heritage claims, ‘digging up some sort of evidence to appease you' (http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/30/elizabeth-warren-campaign-challenged-on-native-american-heritage-claims-digging-up-some-sort-of-evidence-to-appease-you/)

[StanUpshaw]

I have been saying this all along, thanks for reading tho. It is WF that has been claiming she is 1/32 Native American.

9th post in this thread:

I kinda forget you said that, since it's a pretty stupid point.

It's like calling yourself a doctor just because you found some internet college willing to print you a diploma (http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/online-degrees-qualify-cat-be-your-shrink-125398).

[Crispy123]

I kinda forget you said that, since it's a pretty stupid point.

I expect nothing more than stupid points from you, buddy.

[StanUpshaw]

I expect nothing more than stupid points from you, buddy.

"Can't come up with an argument...better make sure everyone knows Stan's a poopyhead."

[Crispy123]

"Can't come up with an argument...better make sure everyone knows Stan's a poopyhead."

I forgot it was me who couldnt make an argument and started the name calling, my bad.

I kinda forget you said that, since it's a pretty stupid point.

O yea!!

And you like to attribute the techniques you use in an argument to others. Its quite annoying but effective at putting your opponents on the defensive.

U gonna tell me Im being "evasive" now?

[StanUpshaw]

U gonna tell me Im being "evasive" now?

Absolutely.

I say you're stupid, then explain the reasons why. You just say I'm stupid and then use that as excuse to flee the debate.

See the difference?

[Crispy123]

Absolutely.

I say you're stupid, then explain the reasons why. You just say I'm stupid and then use that as excuse to flee the debate.

See the difference?

U say Im stupid becuz the point I have been making all along is the same one that YOU, after 100+ posts in this thread, are now making BACK AT ME.

So no, I don't see. Please explain yourself.

[StanUpshaw]

U say Im stupid becuz the point I have been making all along is the same one that you, after 100+ posts in this thread, are now making BACK AT ME.

So no, I don't see. Please explain yourself.

Your point was that EVEN IF someone had issued her a Secret Cherokee Decoder Ring (which no one has), it's completely meaningless because she has no qualitative association with any Native American lifestyle, history, or culture; and thus violates the spirit, if not the letter, of whatever policies she was trying to exploit?

I didn't realize that. Well, I'm glad we're all in agreement now.

[spoon]

Looks like Warren got some splainin to do


http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/30/native-american-group-elizabeth-warren-better-be-able-to-defend-ancestry-claim/#ixzz1tcWGYqsC

the comments section with that story are quite sad

figures

[epo]

Warren wants to claim a background with 1/32 Indian Blood in her? The hackery of your defense of her is laughable.

Wanna take that stupid talking point back?

[epo]

The principal chief of the Cherokee Nation is 1/32 Cherokee. That's means Elizabeth Warren is as Cherokee as the principal chief of her tribe.

Maybe we should all come to grips that Scott Brown is one sleazy fucking politician.

[Dude!]

Or that the 'principal chief'
of tbe cherokee tribe
is also a fraud

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Wanna take that stupid talking point back?

No


Warren still has not proven shes got Indian blood plus the main point is that she used to be an Indian to get special priviliges, then she wasnt, but to exploit herself in an election now shes Indian again.


Shes an opportunistic hack,

[A.J.]

This reminds me of when they were trying to build the Foxwoods casino and Trump protested saying the Pequots "don't look Indian to me".

[Crispy123]

No


Warren still has not proven shes got Indian blood plus the main point is that she used to be an Indian to get special priviliges, then she wasnt, but to exploit herself in an election now shes Indian again.


Shes an opportunistic hack,

who's point is that and what special privileges are you talking about specifically?

[A.J.]

It's gotta be cheap smokes and fireworks.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

who's point is that and what special privileges are you talking about specifically?

Claiming minority status for affirmative action purposes

[Crispy123]

Claiming minority status for affirmative action purposes

claiming minority status isnt a privilege.


What privileges are you saying she got, you fox news spouting weasel?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

claiming minority status isnt a privilege.


What privileges are you saying she got, you fox news spouting weasel?

When youre 31/32 White to advance yourself it sure is.

Why do you keep mentioning Fox ? Stop it already.

[Crispy123]

When youre 31/32 White to advance yourself it sure is.

Why do you keep mentioning Fox ? Stop it already.

exactly. You don't have shit. you are a troll.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

exactly. You don't have shit. you are a troll.

Warren doesn't.

[Crispy123]

fox news does and so do you.

[Jujubees2]

It's gotta be cheap smokes and fireworks.

And firewater!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

And firewater!

Sounds like a party. Who's got a buffalo to roast

[Silent Beard]

Long time observer of this site, who feels compelled, as it also relates to my life experiences, to start posting in this forum.

I am a moderate. No, not the convenience moderate, who is registered with one party but falsely calls myself a moderate in order to avoid seeming like a partisan hack. I have no party. I caveat this deceleration because in reading this site, I have noticed that anyone having a negative opinion toward a democrat on this site, is usually jumped on.

How can anyone, outside of partisan ideals, excuse Elizabeth Warren's false proclamation? The ends cease to justify the means. Does character mean anything, anymore?

Now, I actually like both Scott Brown and Elizabeth Warren. Brown is a moderate with guts. Warren is more to the left, but can be a true difference maker.

I agree with the poster who stated that the Republican party shot themselves in the foot when they did not allow Warren to go forward in her previous position. Elizabeth Warren will win this race. Democrats in Massachusetts will see to it. But, this latest controversy will soil such a nomination, for me.

[Crispy123]

no one is excusing a false proclamation.

also, no one has proven that it IS a false proclamation.

[StanUpshaw]

no one is excusing a false proclamation.

also, no one has proven that it IS a false proclamation.

Burden of proof, homes.

[Crispy123]

Burden of proof, homes.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/05/07/harvard_warren_got_job_only_on_merits_as_teacher/

A Massachusetts genealogist said he uncovered evidence that Warren's great-great-great grandmother had listed herself as Cherokee in an 1894 document. That would make Warren a 1/32nd American Indian.

[StanUpshaw]

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2012/05/07/harvard_warren_got_job_only_on_merits_as_teacher/

And now all she has to do is go back in time 20 years and have her claim accepted by the Cherokees, and then everything is fine.

[Crispy123]

And now all she has to do is have her claim accepted by the Cherokees, and everything is fine.

not evasive in the least, way to go stanny!

[StanUpshaw]

not evasive in the least, way to go stanny!

It seems like we've been over this. She needs her Tribal ID number. The injun said so himself.

[Crispy123]

It seems like we've been over this. She needs her Tribal ID number. The injun said so himself.

needs it for what exactly? to be senator?

[StanUpshaw]

needs it for what exactly? to be senator?

To claim that she is Cherokee. I would have thought a master of all things Native American, you would have known that.

[Crispy123]

To claim that she is Cherokee

no she really doesn't.

seems like she's been doing that just fine.

[StanUpshaw]

no she really doesn't.

seems like she's been doing that just fine.

Be consistent. What does your precious website say?

[Crispy123]

Be consistent. What does your precious website say?

it says to be a citizen you need a tribal ID.



to just claim it, not so much.

[StanUpshaw]

it says to be a citizen you need a tribal ID.



to just claim it, not so much.

Rinse and repeat

Ramirez said anyone who claims in writing to be a Native American should have some sort of supporting documentation. “If you’re a member of a federally recognized tribe, then that means you would have a tribal enrollment number,” he said.

[Crispy123]

O I thought you asked me what the website I posted a link to said.

Be consistent. What does your precious website say?

I guess we are taking the WF approach of changing the argument now???

[StanUpshaw]

O I thought you asked me what the website I posted a link to said.


I guess we are taking the WF approach of changing the argument now???

Show me where it says you can claim any fucking thing you want.

[Crispy123]

not evasive in the least, way to go stanny!

Rinse and repeat

exactly.

[StanUpshaw]

exactly.

I'm waiting.

[Crispy123]

I'm waiting.

good. can't wait to see what the next argument you and WF can come up with is. Guess Ill have to tune in to the Glenn O' Limbaugh program to find out!

[StanUpshaw]

O I thought you asked me what the website I posted a link to said.

Show me where it says you can claim any fucking thing you want.

What is so hard about this?

[Crispy123]

What is so hard about this?

it says to be a citizen you need a tribal ID.

nothing could be easier than debating someone who changes their argument every time they get called on their bullshit.

[StanUpshaw]

nothing could be easier than debating someone who changes their argument every time they get called on their bullshit.

Like you!






Man, this is so easy. Why didn't I start arguing like a crispy years ago!?

[Crispy123]

show me where I changed the argument.

[StanUpshaw]

show me where I changed the argument.

You set the bar by listing the referencing the tribal membership requirements. She has not met those requirements, and when someone points that out, you just yell fox news.

[Crispy123]

You set the bar by listing the referencing the tribal membership requirements. She has not met those requirements, and when someone points that out, you just yell fox news.

I never said she met the requirements. Still waiting for you to show me where I did.

You are the one asking for proof. I asked for what purpose and you dodged that one.

I quoted a newspaper piece about a genealogist confirming the great grand mother was listed as native american. you then asked what the link I posted said, I told you. then you posted a quote from somewhere else.

Not really that hard to follow stanny girl.

[StanUpshaw]

I never said she met the requirements. Still waiting for you to show me where I did.

You are the one asking for proof. I asked for what purpose and you dodged that one.

I quoted a newspaper piece about a genealogist confirming the great grand mother was listed as native american. you then asked what the link I posted said, I told you. then you posted a quote from somewhere else.

Not really that hard to follow stanny girl.

So then posting about official Cherokee membership was a non-sequitur? Why post it in the first place if you're going to toss it away and go with some what random genealogist says?

The 1/32 only matters if you're going by a strict, letter of the law interpretation of Cherokee rules and regulations. And if that's the case, then it has to be officially accepted by whatever tribe you're claiming membership to. Period.

If you want to talk about a colloquial interpretation of what being a Native American means, then she ABSOLUTELY fails because she has no qualitative association with any Native American lifestyle, history, or culture.




You're just blending the two definitions to fit whichever argument you care to make at the time.

[Crispy123]

So then posting about official Cherokee membership was a non-sequitur? Why post it in the first place if you're going to toss it away and go with some what random genealogist says?


Easy, because the argument at the beginning of this thread was that 1/32 wasn't enough blood to be considered native american. It is, and I posted a link to support myself.

Warren has not filed the paper work to be recognized by the tribe. I have never asserted otherwise. It has also been reported that she never used federal programs for American Indians and was not in any way given preference for claiming Native American status.

I do agree that she should produce the evidence of her great grandmothers heritage to shut up the Fox newsies.

[StanUpshaw]

Easy, because the argument at the beginning of this thread was that 1/32 wasn't enough blood to be considered native american. It is, and I posted a link to support myself.

Warren has not filed the paper work to be recognized by the tribe. I have never asserted otherwise. It has also been reported that she never used federal programs for American Indians and was not in any way given preference for claiming Native American status.

I do agree that she should produce the evidence of her great grandmothers heritage to shut up the Fox newsies.

No, it only matters for the bureaucratic purpose of official tribal recognition. And even "Cherokee" on a marriage certificate is meaningless, because all that matters is if you can prove relationship to someone on the "Dawes Roll".

Outside the realm of bureaucracy, 1/32 IS indeed bullshit.

And it doesn't matter if she failed to con the system, the important thing is that she tried.

[Crispy123]

Outside the realm of bureaucracy, 1/32 IS indeed bullshit.

This is the discussion RealMenHateLife tried to start and I agreed was an interesting debate. Instead, you and the other tighty rightys just wanted to bash libruls and make racist jokes. which is fine too.

I disagree with you and at this point couldnt really give a shit about your opinion.

Feel free to let your congressman or tribal representatives know what your feelings on the subject are.

[StanUpshaw]

This is the argument Real Men Hate Life tried to start and I agreed was an interesting debate. Instead, you and the other tighty rightys just wanted to bash libruls and make racist jokes. which is fine too.

I disagree with you and at this point couldnt really give a shit about your opinion.

Feel free to let your congressman or tribal representatives know what your feelings on the subject are.

It seems like one of the foremost things you care about is my opinion.

[Crispy123]

It seems like one of the foremost things you care about is my opinion.

I have noticed that you like to ascribe meanings to my statements that are not there.

[StanUpshaw]

I have noticed that you like to ascribe meanings to my statements that are not there.

Location: de Nile

[Crispy123]

wak-a-doodle!

[StanUpshaw]

I have noticed that you like to ascribe meanings to my statements that are not there.

I have noticed that you like to ascribe sources to my statements that are not there.



U just got served.

http://i.imgur.com/g5UOD.jpg

[Crispy123]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/W-_Ql0fN0bA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Silent Beard]

The Boston Globe, though they burried inside, debunked the "Oh, we found proof via a great, great, great grandma's zookeeper, that Warren is Cherokee".

[StanUpshaw]

The Boston Globe, though they burried inside, debunked the "Oh, we found proof via a great, great, great grandma's zookeeper, that Warren is Cherokee".

Link?

[KnoxHarrington]

Guess what, the actual voters don't give a shit about this story:

Seventy-two percent of likely voters were aware of the recent controversy concerning Elizabeth Warren’s heritage. Of those, 49 percent said Warren was telling the truth about being part Native American; 28 percent said she was not telling the truth; and 23 percent weren’t sure. Meanwhile, 41 percent said they believed that Elizabeth Warren benefited by listing herself as a minority, while 45 percent said she did not benefit. Sixty-nine percent of likely voters said that Warren’s Native American heritage listing is not a significant story, while 27 percent said that it is.

The same story goes into how the story about how Romney was a bullying douche in school doesn't seem to be hurting him either. Voters, by and large, care about what a candidate can do for them and how they will lead, not inconsequential stories like this meant to rile up rubes.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/romney-bully-warren-native-american-polls.php

[spoon]

Guess what, the actual voters don't give a shit about this story:



The same story goes into how the story about how Romney was a bullying douche in school doesn't seem to be hurting him either. Voters, by and large, care about what a candidate can do for them and how they will lead, not inconsequential stories like this meant to rile up rubes.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/romney-bully-warren-native-american-polls.php

Well that's just it...there isn't a candidate out there that doesn't have some issue, some story or at least some bs controversy linked to them by their past or via attacks from the competition. So smart voters have to at least see through the bs and look past the more minor shit bc no candidate is perfect. Sure both examples bring up character concerns and more, but overall lighter than most of what is linked to the people we have to choose from.

[Silent Beard]

What someone did in high school, and what someone did to lie in order to push an agenda and garner advances, is not comparable.



To suggest as much, is partisan.

[spoon]

Both are not one in the same since Mitt's is true and the other may be a valid claim. You are just assuming Warren has no claim, which I would have no real ability to back that up or not at this point. It's not partisan, it's different completely overall as well. Nobody in their right mind would claim either is a good thing either if both are negative in the end. Yet one has helped many in the past and lines up with my policy views on most issues and the other has Bain and recent republican rhetoric in his past. THAT is the reason I would back one or the other in any fashion, not due to their flaws...but keep trying to make your stand on being better than others here. If anything, you're ending up more self absorbed and fraudulent than WF.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I don't care about Bain and it doesn't bother me that Obama did blow


However claiming minority status to further a career then not claiming shows That Chief Telling Bull did just that. She still hasn't proved that she does have any Indian blood. Some fable about a relative from 200 years ago doesn't cut it

[epo]

I don't care about Bain and it doesn't bother me that Obama did blow

However claiming minority status to further a career then not claiming shows That Chief Telling Bull did just that. She still hasn't proved that she does have any Indian blood. Some fable about a relative from 200 years ago doesn't cut it

Bain is an issue as Romney's claim to being electable is that he's a "job creator". In fact isn't looked into enough, as its the cornerstone of his campaign.

Blow isn't an issue because nobody cares.

Warren might be an issue, but I don't have the time to research or care about that one.

[Crispy123]

Warren might be an issue, but I don't have the time to research or care about that one.

Its not. Her employers and schools have said she has not received federal assistance or preferential treatment. The voters don't seem to care about it, just the foxnewsies.

[KnoxHarrington]

Its not. Her employers and schools have said she has not received federal assistance or preferential treatment. The voters don't seem to care about it, just the foxnewsies.

It's a racist dogwhistle. The message to rubes is "She got where she is because of affirmative action!" Though, as you say, there's no evidence she's actually used it for anything.

[StanUpshaw]

Its not. Her employers and schools have said she has not received federal assistance or preferential treatment. The voters don't seem to care about it, just the foxnewsies.

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[StanUpshaw]

It's a racist dogwhistle. The message to rubes is "She got where she is because of affirmative action!" Though, as you say, there's no evidence she's actually used it for anything.

So if I install a spy camera in someone's shower, but for whatever reason I don't end up recording anyone's soapy tits, I didn't actually do anything wrong?

[Crispy123]

So if I install a spy camera in someone's shower, but for whatever reason I don't end up recording anyone's soapy tits, I didn't actually do anything wrong?

so if I spout out all the talking points of fox news without actually tuning into the channel then Im not a foxnewsy???

[hanso]

I don't care about Bain and it doesn't bother me that Obama did blow


However claiming minority status to further a career then not claiming shows That Chief Telling Bull did just that. She still hasn't proved that she does have any Indian blood. Some fable about a relative from 200 years ago doesn't cut it

She never gained from this, why do you keep harping on it?

You guys are right fox news making shit up, pounding it over and over in hopes that it will spread..

[SonOfSmeagol]

I think Stan made good points: If she could cite even one qualitative connection to Native Americans - like an event, a letter, anything at all - then it really doesn't matter if her claim is true or not. i.e., can she show she was true to the spirit of the thing? But it appears that she can't even do this, and thus she looks self-serving and kinda foolish.

[hanso]

Bain is an issue as Romney's claim to being electable is that he's a "job creator". In fact isn't looked into enough, as its the cornerstone of his campaign.

Blow isn't an issue because nobody cares.

Warren might be an issue, but I don't have the time to research or care about that one.

Saw something on it which states; it was her great x3? grand parent that made the claim, back then records where not kept it was more word of mouth.

Also why whould her relative make such a claim back when natives were not seen in the light they have come to know.

[StanUpshaw]

so if I spout out all the talking points of fox news without actually tuning into the channel then Im not a foxnewsy???

FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS FOX NEWS

[StanUpshaw]

I think Stan made good points: If she could cite even one qualitative connection to Native Americans - like an event, a letter, anything at all - then it really doesn't matter if her claim is true or not. i.e., can she show she was true to the spirit of the thing? But it appears that she can't even do this, and thus she looks self-serving and kinda foolish.

I don't care what they say about you...you're good people.

[Silent Beard]

I just intently read the posts over the last few days...

This has got to be the B team, of this site. Right?

Partisan, hack excuses for their side. Not a single glimpse of logic allotted in the bunch. Excuses invented for Warren's gaff. Unbelievable!

[Silent Beard]

For the record, prior to this, I liked her. And for the record, I believe she wins this race.

[spoon]

self slurp beard returns to slurp some more!

C team to the rescue

[StanUpshaw]

I just intently read the posts over the last few days...

This has got to be the B team, of this site. Right?

Partisan, hack excuses for their side. Not a single glimpse of logic allotted in the bunch. Excuses invented for Warren's gaff. Unbelievable!

It took you a few days to read a thread?

[Silent Beard]

When did the writers from "Wings" join this site?

Seriously, I've read more amusing lines , in an Anne Frank diary.

[spoon]

Oh my GOD! He's such a mind fucker!

Wow!

:lol:

[Bob Impact]

I don't want to read all of this, I'm Sicilian, when do I get my prize?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

She's really milking this for all that she can



<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0xu_LTt2wJM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Time for a pow wow


http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220904tribal_activist_shame_on_her_indian_delega tes_seek_sit-down_with_liz/

[epo]

Time for a pow wow


http://news.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220904tribal_activist_shame_on_her_indian_delega tes_seek_sit-down_with_liz/

Watch your mouth, that's Senator Warren to you.

[Dude!]

Watch your mouth, that's Senator Warren to you.

epo's on the warpath!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Looks like the old squaw doesnt have a license to practice law in MA


I guess there are separate rules for people who claim to be Indians.

[Dude!]

Looks like the old squaw doesnt have a license to practice law in MA


I guess there are separate rules for people who claim to be Indians.

yeah, and making $212,000
to represent Travelers Insurance
AGAINST asbestos victims
while practicing law without a license

as i have said,
she is the phoniest fraud
out there

i hope she lands in jail

[WRESTLINGFAN]

yeah, and making $212,000
to represent Travelers Insurance
AGAINST asbestos victims
while practicing law without a license

as i have said,
she is the phoniest fraud
out there

i hope she lands in jail

Maybe shes competing against Romneycare and is a part time medicine woman.

[epo]

I see Scott Brown is playing the "injun" card hard against Warren. That must mean that Brown is losing.

Good, fuck him for being an asshole.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Dead even.

[brettmojo]

I see Scott Brown is playing the "injun" card hard against Warren. That must mean that Brown is losing.

Good, fuck him for being an asshole.

Has he tried to give her any blankets yet?

[keithy_19]

Watch your mouth, that's Senator Warren to you.

I read this as "watch your mouth, that's senator. I'm Warren you" and chuckled.

[keithy_19]

Has he tried to give her any blankets yet?

:happy:

[epo]

Dead even.

This racist shit is the signal they at least have internal polls which have them in serious trouble.

[epo]

Scott Brown's staffers in action at a Warren event:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/r1XpAD8auCY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is not becoming of a US Senator.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Having an affair and leaving a woman to die in a '69 olds is commendable behavior?


Claiming minority status to further your career then making excuses like high cheekbones, practicing law without a license is conduct unbecoming as a candidate

[epo]

WF, are you justifying Senator Brown's tactics?

You think they are commendable?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I see nothing wrong exposing Chief Liar-watha, Theyre not making fun of Indians. If Warren squawed up and said she was wrong for what she did, it would have been squashed but she kept digging a deeper hole.


If somebody mocked Dick Blumenthal by pretending to be someone fighting in Vietnam there would be nothing wrong with that.


Candidates are not perfect and there will be gaffes made along the way, however what Warren and Blumenthal did lack basic integrity.


Warren might win, never doubt the voting of northeast democrats.

[Dude!]

Warren might win, never doubt the voting of northeast democrats.

remember, scott brown beat a
democrat woman to get the seat
and that was just 2 years ago...
and she wasn't a lying sack of shit

he'll win this one too

[Jujubees2]

remember, scott brown beat a
democrat woman to get the seat
and that was just 2 years ago...
and she wasn't a lying sack of shit

he'll win this one too

Aren't you the same person who predicted that Todd Akin would pull out the the Missouri senate race within 24 hours of his rape comments?

[epo]

Oh Scott Brown, your political career has been so short... (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/scott-brown-elizabeth-warren-george-patriarca_n_1987112.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012)

Scott Brown Supporter From Ad Calls Elizabeth Warren 'D*****bag,' Obama A 'Muslim' On Facebook

NEW YORK -- Scott Brown recently got in hot water for falsely claiming that his Senate race opponent, Elizabeth Warren, was using paid actors in her commercials. But it turns out that Brown is perhaps the one who should have known more about the people appearing in his ads.

In a television advertisement running as recently this week, Sen. Scott Brown's (R-Mass.) reelection campaign featured a union construction worker whose publicly accessible Facebook page is riddled with insults against Brown's Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren and President Barack Obama.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Warren 2016!!!!


What tribe will she claim then?

Hopi and Change?


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/elizabeth-warren-2016-111200552.html

[Dude!]

Hopi and Change?

Ha-ha!

Warren's a Sitting Bull-shitter

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ha-ha!

Warren's a Sitting Bull-shitter

That senior citizen librarian look wont make her a Nava-Hoe

[Dan 'Hampton]

She's up 5. Adds are nonstop here. I'd vote 3rd party

[spoon]

Warren 2016!!!!


What tribe will she claim then?

Hopi and Change?


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-players-abc-news/elizabeth-warren-2016-111200552.html

Ha-ha!

Warren's a Sitting Bull-shitter

That senior citizen librarian look wont make her a Nava-Hoe

welcome to the ronfez.net dickoff contest


somehow wf is one upping dude!, but it's still early

:wallbash:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

welcome to the ronfez.net dickoff contest


somehow wf is one upping dude!, but it's still early

:wallbash:

Warren brought this all upon herself.


Im sure you were laughing when Palin was considered a slutty flight attendant

As nutty as Palin is, shes not a threat to my wallet. She's in the private sector. Warren has a good chance of winning and having another big gov't spender in the Senate.

[spoon]

so Palin wasn't close or a gov?

and comparing the two situations, much less people is just off in a big way

one is a constant issue surrounded by controversy, off the wall comments tinged with racism and stupidity

the other may or may not have overstated her tie to a race and yet has been exactly what she puts herself out there to be and has worked hard to protect the majority of US citizens/consumers

i find it funny you even tried to lump the two together, but I'm not shocked

it would be like me trying to tie Gary Johnson into Al Sharpton...just stupid

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so Palin wasn't close or a gov?

and comparing the two situations, much less people is just off in a big way

one is a constant issue surrounded by controversy, off the wall comments tinged with racism and stupidity

the other may or may not have overstated her tie to a race and yet has been exactly what she puts herself out there to be and has worked hard to protect the majority of US citizens/consumers

i find it funny you even tried to lump the two together, but I'm not shocked

it would be like me trying to tie Gary Johnson into Al Sharpton...just stupid

Warren used the very little if any Indian blood to further herself based on quotas. Warren hasnt protected anything. She would have been the head of another useless reduntand bureaucracy

Palin is an Ex Governor. No matter how scared you got in 2008 There was nobody who could have defeated Obama

Gary Johnson never caused riots, got people killed, ruined careers or was delinquent millions of dollars on his taxes

[spoon]

Warren used the very little if any Indian blood to further herself based on quotas. Warren hasnt protected anything. She would have been the head of another useless reduntand bureaucracy

Palin is an Ex Governor. No matter how scared you got in 2008 There was nobody who could have defeated Obama

Gary Johnson never caused riots, got people killed, ruined careers or was delinquent millions of dollars on his taxes

first off, the quota idea is a contrived political bullshit take and a longtime Republican has come out and backed this up.
Harvard Law professor Charles Fried, who had served as Solicitor General in the Reagan administration and sat on the appointing committee that recommended Warren for hire in 1995, said that her heritage was never mentioned and played no role in the appointments process.


second, that's your OPINION on Warren's past and work with the government...one i'm simply not surprised in, but couldn't disagree more on

third, you just made the VERY POINT i was TRYING to make with the Johnson/Sharpton comparison. thanks for the help and missing the tie in to YOUR comparison completely.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

first off, the quota idea is a contrived political bullshit take and a longtime Republican has come out and backed this up.


second, that's your OPINION on Warren's past and work with the government. one i'm simply not surprised in, but couldn't disagree more on

third, you just made the VERY POINT i was TRYING to make with the Johnson/Sharpton comparison. thanks for the help and missing the tie in to YOUR comparison completely.

People like you point out to the 1 token Republican that you can find. Here's a note for you. Everything reagan did and some of his appointments were not perfect.


People like to look to Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe too.

Yes, my opinion and many who are sick of big government is that the has been in bed with the feds far too long and now will go back if elected.


Warren kept digging herself when she made that claim about Indian blood.

Gary Johnson has ideas that will improve the state of affairs in this country. People like Sharpton and Warren just want to grow the gov't.

[spoon]

People like you point out to the 1 token Republican that you can find. Here's a note for you. Everything reagan did and some of his appointments were not perfect.


People like to look to Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe too.

Yes, my opinion and many who are sick of big government is that the has been in bed with the feds far too long and now will go back if elected.


Warren kept digging herself when she made that claim about Indian blood.

Gary Johnson has ideas that will improve the state of affairs in this country. People like Sharpton and Warren just want to grow the gov't.

you simply can't focus, as the very point gary johnson and sharpton were even mentioned is now COMPLETELY lost on you

hell this very conversation is a chutes and ladders discussion where the fucking floor just drops out at a moments notice if a bullet point gets triggered in your head

and you're right, when I think token scapegoat republican taking dem approaches I think or, no the world thinks of Charles Fried! Or is Reagan the ONE token, or Snow, or Collins? It wasn't the point AT ALL. The people on her nominating committee destroyed the political attack on Warren, many were from the GOP establishment and defended her. Not one said it had a thing to do with her nom, much less even brought up.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sucker-Jo-weea wont classify herself as an Indian.




http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_politics/2013/01/liz_warren_won%E2%80%99t_beat_drum