Colorado movie theatre shooting

[thepaulo]

If you go into a packed movie theater and start killing people, Those are innocent victims.
What kind of person has such a total disregard for human life?
This is compicated but it should be clear that this is an evil despicable act.
Whatever the reason, the act was done to hijack the world's attention.

There are so many issues to discuss here I won't even begin to go into them all.

Except for one,

do certain people strongly identify with characters like Bane and the Joker and what is an artist

[PapaBear]

When someone is fucked in the head enough to do something like that, trying to find any logic or reason behind their thought process is useless. John Hinkley shot Reagan and others because he supposedly wanted to impress Jodie Foster. For all we know, this guy was trying to impress a girl. None of it matters. It was just a horrific act by someone who is fucked in the head.

[thepaulo]

sorry my computer froze up

[Jujubees2]

I just got back from a trip to Colorado. My brother-in-law was able to walk into a Sports Authority and walk out with two rifles and a hand gun in 30 minutes and then cleaned out the ammo supply for his weapons at Wal Mart.

I was lectured by a TSA agent at the airport for not taking my wallet out of my pocket.

Nuf ced.

[thepaulo]

The most important issue is that there is nowhere that is safe. There is nothing we can do to prevent this.

[A.J.]

We could kill the mentally ill. That would be more effective than gun control.

[thepaulo]

This guy should be categorized as a moron and not insane.
There is no way an insanity defense should be allowed.

[PapaBear]

We could kill the mentally ill. That would be more effective than gun control.
Nah... Put them all on a train to North Dakota.

[thepaulo]

Mass murder doesn't work in North Dakota since no one lives there.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Heres the latest on it.


http://gma.yahoo.com/mass-shooting-colo-movie-theater-14-people-dead-085940786--abc-news-topstories.html


ABC news is trying to make a tea party connection, This didnt take long


http://washingtonexaminer.com/abc-news-speculates-is-colorado-shooter-a-member-of-the-tea-party/article/2502697?custom_click=rss

[spoon]

Crazy link to my Avalanche in hockey and overall hockey reporter that narrowly dodged the shooting just recently in Toronto bc she had a "sick feeling" that made her get out of the area, only to be gunned down a few weeks later.

Now that's fucking creepy and so sad. It has that Final Destination feel too it too, not good.

Mile High Hockey Report (http://www.milehighhockey.com/2012/7/20/3171807/avalanche-correspondent-jessica-redfield-victim-of-aurora-shootings)

[Misteriosa]

also, if you use tunein radio, you can look up the aurora station and listen in to the police and fire department radio.

[spoon]

We could kill the mentally ill. That would be more effective than gun control.

we'd be left with 17 people on earth, and 2 posters here...both listed in this post!

:innocent: :wink:

[DarkHippie]

I really hope this scumbag doesn't use the 'the movie made me do it' defence. He should use the 'i'm a plague on humanity and assrape me to death' defence

[Melk]

I absolutely HATE the way the media is covering this story. This incident happened in Colorado and was committed by an obvious nut, but there is really no immediate danger associated with this incident now that the culprit is in custody. I was watching the Chicago FOX affiliate and they rambled on about the incident for 40 minutes between traffic and weather reports without switching topics. They did a man-on-the-street segment asking people waiting to watch the 9 and 10am screenings of "The Dark Knight Rises" why they could take the risk of getting killed to watch the new Batman movie.

What risk?
The only risk of copycat attacks which would, likely, be inspired by the news talking about the incident endlessly and explaining how the attacker carried out the attacks.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the media loves incidents like this. Brings in ratings for TV, Just another example of disaster porn.

[disneyspy]

in before the merge of the thread paulo started!

[brettmojo]

ABC news is trying to make a tea party connection, This didnt take long


http://washingtonexaminer.com/abc-news-speculates-is-colorado-shooter-a-member-of-the-tea-party/article/2502697?custom_click=rss
Thank Rush for that.

[DarkHippie]

the media loves incidents like this. Brings in ratings for TV, Just another example of disaster porn.

I blame Fox News ;)

[spoon]

in before the merge of the thread paulo started!

fucking narc

[disneyspy]

fucking narc

name caller!

[spoon]

Thank Rush for that.

interesting point actually, but you know that's the only angle WF cares about

he makes fun of it but is just dying to make this all about politics even though it was a "possible" tie in and was discussed for what, 10 seconds and even then dismissed unless verified?

classic media there too to make so much out of THAT, and WF jumped on it from where? I ask that seriously, bc I sure something like Drudge led him to the link for the Washington Ex puff piece.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

interesting point actually, but you know that's the only angle WF cares about

he makes fun of it but is just dying to make this all about politics even though it was a "possible" tie in and was discussed for what, 10 seconds and even then dismissed unless verified?

classic media there too to make so much out of THAT, and WF jumped on it from where? I ask that seriously, bc I sure something like Drudge led him to the link for the Washington Ex puff piece.

Whos making fun of it? you sound ridiculous. Where do you get these ramblings?


This always happens. Before the bodies are buried someone in the media comes to a conclusion that it was a specific group responsible.

[brettmojo]

Why couldn't this have happened at the Step Up Revolution midnight opening?

[spoon]

you poked fun at the tie in to the tea party stupid, unless you were being serious and believe it...oh that's right you were being snarky and pointing it out to rip the ten second exchange as if it were an actual pre-planned and blatant attempt to link at this point, which it clearly wasn't

[WRESTLINGFAN]

you poked fun at the tie in to the tea party stupid, unless you were being serious and believe it...oh that's right you were being snarky and pointing it out to rip the ten second exchange as if it were an actual pre-planned and blatant attempt to link at this point, which it clearly wasn't

It wasn't poking fun. It was calling out the hacks who immediately blamed them. Is your memory short? Remember Krugman doing the same thing about the Giffords shooting or when Bloomberg said the Times Sq failed bomber was a right winger mad that Obamacare got passed.

[spoon]

the bottom line is you try to turn everything, even this into the very thing you're claiming to be AGAINST

way to be the very thing you claim to despise


the kid was clearly a fucking nut in either direction and even in the first fucking post on reporting this sad event you went with your normal bullshit. that's not a rant WF, it's a fucking FACT

[underdog]

We could kill the mentally ill. That would be more effective than gun control.

Then .net really would come to an end.

[spoon]

It wasn't poking fun. It was calling out the hacks who immediately blamed them. Is your memory short? Remember Krugman doing the same thing about the Giffords shooting or when Bloomberg said the Times Sq failed bomber was a right winger mad that Obamacare got passed.

right....

and no WF, it's not

did I say I forgot or was that a fucking topic here in any fucking way relevant until you brought up a 10 second exchange in the first fucking post? classic WF tying in some random tie in to his point as if I'm ignoring something not even brought up, talked about or relevant at this point. But yah, I'm being biased right WF. You nailed it. I don't remember the media sucking ass in the past bc you posted it here.

[Furtherman]

I merged the two threads about this shooting.

[spoon]

Then .net really would come to an end.

man you are getting ninja'd CONSTANTLY of late

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the bottom line is you try to turn everything, even this into the very thing you're claiming to be AGAINST

way to be the very thing you claim to despise


the kid was clearly a fucking nut in either direction and even in the first fucking post on reporting this sad event you went with your normal bullshit. that's not a rant WF, it's a fucking FACT

Im clearly pointing out that people make assumptions about the perps affiliation without even doing any research and make blanket accusations.

You should vet your anger to the person on ABC news who made that comment.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

right....

and no WF, it's not

did I say I forgot or was that a fucking topic here in any fucking way relevant until you brought up a 10 second exchange in the first fucking post? classic WF tying in some random tie in to his point as if I'm ignoring something not even brought up, talked about or relevant at this point. But yah, I'm being biased right WF. You nailed it. I don't remember the media sucking ass in the past bc you posted it here.

Instead of being angry at the media for making an accusation like that you point it to me for addressing the idiocy of them. Great logic

[spoon]

Im clearly pointing out that people make assumptions about the perps affiliation without even doing any research and make blanket accusations.

You should vet your anger to the person on ABC news who made that comment.

why? they found a possible tie in and mentioned it exactly as they knew it at the point? Did they actually link the two or try to push that as their agenda? No, they mentioned something in conversation and George pretty much said, follow up on it and get back to me if it IS anything of substance. Perhaps it shouldn't have been on air, but that wasn't on George and it was hardly handled incorrectly. No smoke fire hunter.

Where did you find the info too WF? Bc I doubt a whole bunch it was from the actual story link...

[Misteriosa]

from nbc news:

The University of Colorado Medical School said on Friday that the suspected movie theater gunman -- earlier named as 24-year-old James Holmes -- was a medical student who dropped out a month ago, The Associated Press reported.

Officials told NBC News that Holmes was the man who killed at least 12 people at a midnight showing of the new Batman movie in a suburb of Denver.

The gunman, who was wearing a bullet-proof vest and dressed entirely in black, was not on any watch list that would have alerted authorities that he was dangerous, officials said. The incident was not believed to have any connection to international terrorism, they added. Some witnesses also told reporters that the shooter was wearing a gas mask or or goggles.

The car Holmes was driving had Tennessee plates, but police sources told NBC News that they believed he had been living locally. Federal authorities told NBC News that Holmes has no military history.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12854157-ap-colo-movie-theater-shooter-is-medical-school-dropout

[spoon]

Instead of being angry at the media for making an accusation like that you point it to me for addressing the idiocy of them. Great logic

no, you're politicizing it all as you always do

here's some more unnecessary ties yet to be confirmed or that matter at this point but out there for what reason?

Exclusive-Dark-Knight-Shooting-Suspect-James-Holmes-Registered-Democrat (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/20/Exclusive-Dark-Knight-Shooting-Suspect-James-Holmes-Registered-Democrat)

:wallbash:

here we go, and it's exactly what you love

[WRESTLINGFAN]

why? they found a possible tie in and mentioned it exactly as they knew it at the point? Did they actually link the two or try to push that as their agenda? No, they mentioned something in conversation and George pretty much said, follow up on it and get back to me if it IS anything of substance. Perhaps it shouldn't have been on air, but that wasn't on George and it was hardly handled incorrectly. No smoke fire hunter.

Where did you find the info too WF? Bc I doubt a whole bunch it was from the actual story link...

Its not on Stephanopoulos. Good for him that he wanted more sources or clarification


Why would ABC news go immediately to a tea party page? That right there showed that there was some attempt to link it to a Tea partier. It would be stupid if Fox tried to go to an Occupy wall st page and did the same thing

[spoon]

Its not on Stephanopoulos. Good for him that he wanted more sources or clarification


Why would ABC news go immediately to a tea party page? That right there showed that there was some attempt to link it to a Tea partier. It would be stupid if Fox tried to go to an Occupy wall st page and did the same thing

oh sure that's how they did it right? there's YOUR bias right there. I challenge you to go page by page on any tea party site and look for a name in there versus A FUCKING GOOGLE SEARCH ON HIS ACTUAL NAME!

oh yah, that's how it came up!

oof

:wallbash:

[Furtherman]

This is all part of god's plan.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

oh sure that's how they did it right? there's YOUR bias right there. I challenge you to go page by page on any tea party site and look for a name in there versus A FUCKING GOOGLE SEARCH ON HIS ACTUAL NAME!

oh yah, that's how it came up!

oof

:wallbash:

The ones showing bias is ABC news. They made that assumption.

[spoon]

they MADE the assumption?

perfect!

they did no such thing

[spoon]

This is all part of god's plan.

clearly

doesn't W talk to God? can we ask him/her/it why this went down exactly?

i mean, it worked on all his policy to consult with the big guy, why not some direction on this here shooting?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Shooting

James Holmes

Looking on Tea party page.

[Fallon]

What a jerk, everyone there was in a good mood waiting years to see this movie and some coward shoots and kills them. I'm glad he didn't kill himself, I hope he sufferers the rest of his life.



I know it's not the point, but I don't understand bringing a three mouth old to the movie. Let alone a midnight showing of an action flick.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If anyone is politicizing this its Bloomberg calling for more gun control.

[brettmojo]

This is all part of god's plan.
I knew it. He's a cylon.

[underdog]

man you are getting ninja'd CONSTANTLY of late

seriously. I'm late to the party and my reading comprehension sucks, apparently.

[brettmojo]

If anyone is politicizing this its Bloomberg calling for more gun control.
For the first time in my life I'm reconsidering my position on it.

[Furtherman]

I just got back from a trip to Colorado. My brother-in-law was able to walk into a Sports Authority and walk out with two rifles and a hand gun in 30 minutes and then cleaned out the ammo supply for his weapons at Wal Mart.

I was lectured by a TSA agent at the airport for not taking my wallet out of my pocket.

Nuf ced.

Exactly. This is the problem. Random violence aside, it's a wonder things like this don't happen more often.

[Freitag]

This guy should be categorized as a moron and not insane.
There is no way an insanity defense should be allowed.

He was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

[Freitag]

Interesting to me to note that Loughner is an idiot. By all indicators, Cho was an idiot. But it appears Holmes was very intelligent.

Dolts of the press coverage so far:

CNN claiming a video game connection.

FBI Profiler saying a "Dark, trekkie-like person" is responsible.

@MikeElk pointing out that Aurora cut it's police force recently, like THAT would have prevented this from happening.

[Furtherman]

He was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

More like MAD science.

[brettmojo]

This is him apparently...

https://p.twimg.com/AyQldAaCYAAtuKb.jpg

[Freitag]

Oh, and Nikki Finke claiming that this was going to hurt TDKR's box office.

Yes, it probably will, but don't talk about it NOW. Not 10 hours after it happened. Wait a LITTLE bit.

[cougarjake13]

how did he get caught?

in all the darkness and confusion he culda just slipped out and prob nvr been caught

did he just sit around and wait ?

[brettmojo]

how did he get caught?

in all the darkness and confusion he culda just slipped out and prob nvr been caught

did he just sit around and wait ?
Yes.

[Freitag]

how did he get caught?

in all the darkness and confusion he culda just slipped out and prob nvr been caught

did he just sit around and wait ?

Yeah, he was just sitting in his car and the cops walked up and he said, "I'm the one you want"... basically son of Sam style.

[fezident]

What risk?
The only risk of copycat attacks which would, likely, be inspired by the news talking about the incident endlessly and explaining how the attacker carried out the attacks.

THAAAANK YOU.
Exactly this.


I hate the theaters on Long Island are "beefing up security". It makes no fucking sense.
Changing behaviors and protocols in movie theaters all over the country give FAR TOO MUCH credit & "honor" to the crazy person that committed the original crime. It elevates HIM.


Slightly unrelated: I also hate when schools have vigils (and mass therapy sessions, etc, etc) for a student that has committed suiced. It elevates the act. The attention and the adulation that is heaped on the dead kid is extreeemely appealing to a depressed kid who, prior to these vigils, was probably NOT contemplating suicide.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Thats the American way. React to everything in a way to give a false sense of security by overwhelming amounts of police.

[A.J.]

He was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

More like MAD science.

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[A.J.]

THAAAANK YOU.
Exactly this.


I hate the theaters on Long Island are "beefing up security". It makes no fucking sense.
Changing behaviors and protocols in movie theaters all over the country give FAR TOO MUCH credit & "honor" to the crazy person that committed the original crime. It elevates HIM. .
But I guess it's OK at airports.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I hope there wont be body scanners and full body searches at theaters

[deliciousV]

Yeah, he was just sitting in his car and the cops walked up and he said, "I'm the one you want"... basically son of Sam style.

he couldn't go home, he woulda blown himself up. Seems like he totally expected to be shot while doing this, when he wasn't, he had no plan.

[styckx]

Leave it to CNN to notch up the derp to full retard levels giving copy-cats a metric shit ton of fuel in what has to be the most facepalming and insensitive article I've yet to read about this.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/justice/colorado-shooting-weapons/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Theater offers 'perfect killing' zone, expert says

A crowded theater offers an ideal location for a gunman -- particularly one armed with a shotgun -- to target dozens of victims, a weapons and security consultant said Friday.

experts tell CNN the very nature of a large room such as a theater -- where people are seated in rows -- makes moviegoers easy targets, even for an inexperienced shooter.

"If you're shooting in a movie theater, and you're near the exit or a main exit, you've basically got a turkey shoot,"

In this scenario, he said, audience members won't be able to escape -- making themselves lingering targets for an attacker.

A shotgun would do more damage among a tightly packed theater audience because its ammunition comes out of the weapon in a reverse funnel shape and would disperse across a wider area, according to Howard.

so many people's heads are lined up next to each other that if you fire down these rows of people ... one blast is going to kill or seriously injure 10 or 15 people, depending on a number of variables."

and that bullet "may go through two people." Most AK-47-type rifles use 30 or 35 round magazines, he said, and the weapons are not difficult to sneak into a theater under a long coat.

[A.J.]

Leave it to CNN to notch up the derp to full retard levels giving copy-cats a metric shit ton of fuel in what has to be the most facepalming and insensitive article I've yet to read about this.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/justice/colorado-shooting-weapons/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Theater offers 'perfect killing' zone, expert says

A crowded theater offers an ideal location for a gunman -- particularly one armed with a shotgun -- to target dozens of victims, a weapons and security consultant said Friday.

experts tell CNN the very nature of a large room such as a theater -- where people are seated in rows -- makes moviegoers easy targets, even for an inexperienced shooter.

"If you're shooting in a movie theater, and you're near the exit or a main exit, you've basically got a turkey shoot,"

In this scenario, he said, audience members won't be able to escape -- making themselves lingering targets for an attacker.

A shotgun would do more damage among a tightly packed theater audience because its ammunition comes out of the weapon in a reverse funnel shape and would disperse across a wider area, according to Howard.

so many people's heads are lined up next to each other that if you fire down these rows of people ... one blast is going to kill or seriously injure 10 or 15 people, depending on a number of variables."

and that bullet "may go through two people." Most AK-47-type rifles use 30 or 35 round magazines, he said, and the weapons are not difficult to sneak into a theater under a long coat.

So does yelling "Fire!". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States)

[DarkHippie]

THAAAANK YOU.
Exactly this.


I hate the theaters on Long Island are "beefing up security". It makes no fucking sense.
Changing behaviors and protocols in movie theaters all over the country give FAR TOO MUCH credit & "honor" to the crazy person that committed the original crime. It elevates HIM.


Slightly unrelated: I also hate when schools have vigils (and mass therapy sessions, etc, etc) for a student that has committed suiced. It elevates the act. The attention and the adulation that is heaped on the dead kid is extreeemely appealing to a depressed kid who, prior to these vigils, was probably NOT contemplating suicide.

If you don't see The Dark Knight Rises, the terrorists win

[A.J.]

More importantly, welcome back Dark Hippie!

[keithy_19]

Why couldn't this have happened at the Step Up Revolution midnight opening?

They would have danced around the bullets and someone would have stopped the gunmen and fans of Step Up Revolution would become heros. That seems like it could possibly be worse for the country.

[Predicked]

This really brought Fez around today. I hope he can find comfort in gay porn magazines now.

[mdr55]

AMC bans masks and costumes. Just great. Punish the cosplayers out there. messed up.

http://www.newsnet5.com//dpp/news/national/amc-theatres-bans-costumes-masks-in-movie-theaters-after-colorado-shooting

[jennysmurf]

More importantly, welcome back Dark Hippie!

:clap:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

AMC bans masks and costumes. Just great. Punish the cosplayers out there. messed up.

http://www.newsnet5.com//dpp/news/national/amc-theatres-bans-costumes-masks-in-movie-theaters-after-colorado-shooting

I wouldnt be surprised if some theatre chains did away with midnight showings

[deliciousV]

Leave it to CNN to notch up the derp to full retard levels giving copy-cats a metric shit ton of fuel in what has to be the most facepalming and insensitive article I've yet to read about this.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/justice/colorado-shooting-weapons/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Theater offers 'perfect killing' zone, expert says

A crowded theater offers an ideal location for a gunman -- particularly one armed with a shotgun -- to target dozens of victims, a weapons and security consultant said Friday.

experts tell CNN the very nature of a large room such as a theater -- where people are seated in rows -- makes moviegoers easy targets, even for an inexperienced shooter.

"If you're shooting in a movie theater, and you're near the exit or a main exit, you've basically got a turkey shoot,"

In this scenario, he said, audience members won't be able to escape -- making themselves lingering targets for an attacker.

A shotgun would do more damage among a tightly packed theater audience because its ammunition comes out of the weapon in a reverse funnel shape and would disperse across a wider area, according to Howard.

so many people's heads are lined up next to each other that if you fire down these rows of people ... one blast is going to kill or seriously injure 10 or 15 people, depending on a number of variables."

and that bullet "may go through two people." Most AK-47-type rifles use 30 or 35 round magazines, he said, and the weapons are not difficult to sneak into a theater under a long coat.

this might be the biggest "Duh!" article ever. They needed an expert to tell them that if you block the exit in a crowded room and use a shotgun, you can shoot a lot of people?
And it seems to me they have accidentally offered a strong argument for arming ones self.

[HBox]

AMC bans masks and costumes. Just great. Punish the cosplayers out there. messed up.

http://www.newsnet5.com//dpp/news/national/amc-theatres-bans-costumes-masks-in-movie-theaters-after-colorado-shooting

There was a guy dressed as Batman at the screening I went to last night. It was fun, everyone was having fun with him and taking pictures.

The shooter had red hair, a gas mask and apparently called himself the Joker. That's not cosplay. THAT'S A FUCKING CRAZY GUY DOING CRAZY THINGS.

[hanso]

So is this monster behing bars or what? Didn't hear these details from the news.

[brettmojo]

AMC bans masks and costumes. Just great. Punish the cosplayers out there. messed up.

http://www.newsnet5.com//dpp/news/national/amc-theatres-bans-costumes-masks-in-movie-theaters-after-colorado-shooting
Go "cosplay" in a city park on the weekend.

Or, as everyone else sees it, advertise your virginity.

[deliciousV]

Go "cosplay" in a city park on the weekend.

Or, as everyone else sees it, advertise your virginity.

Cosplay?

<a href="http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/ftp000/?action=view&amp;current=cosplay.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p84/ftp000/cosplay.jpg" border="0" alt="cosplay"></a>

[WRESTLINGFAN]

So is this monster behing bars or what? Didn't hear these details from the news.

Didnt hear that but they still haven't got inside his apartment yet. Its reported that he booby trapped the place

[cougarjake13]

So is this monster behing bars or what? Didn't hear these details from the news.



he was arrested so I imagine he's in jail awaiting trial

[cougarjake13]

Didnt hear that but they still haven't got inside his apartment yet. Its reported that he booby trapped the place



yeh they still haven't got in

[mdr55]

Go "cosplay" in a city park on the weekend.

Or, as everyone else sees it, advertise your virginity.

So all those Raiders fans are virgins. I knew it! And people that go to Medieval Festivals too. And the people that dress up in costume for Halloween too.

But hey.....it don't make you a bad person.




How about they address the sale of semi-automatic weapons? Yea I need that AK-47 to shoot a deer.

I'm just waiting for someone to say that the wacko was mentally ill or something to explain why this happened. Maybe some people are just plain evil.

[hanso]

So all those Raiders fans are virgins. I knew it! And people that go to Medieval Festivals too. And the people that dress up in costume for Halloween too.

But hey.....it don't make you a bad person.




How about they address the sale of semi-automatic weapons? Yea I need that AK-47 to shoot a deer.

I'm just waiting for someone to say that the wacko was mentally ill or something to explain why this happened. Maybe some people are just plain evil.

Regulate the Militia? wow, what an idea, where have I heard that before?...

[Sinestro]

in the new Batman movie?

[cougarjake13]

in the new Batman movie?



nope it's in GL2

[brettmojo]

So all those Raiders fans are virgins. I knew it! And people that go to Medieval Festivals too.
Yes.

[fezident]

I think it's illogical to assign any blame -such as it is- on the MOVIE itself.
There's nothing to indicate that the shooter saw or even LIKED that movie. Surely.... he picked the theater because it he knew it would be crowded. And that he would get headlines... and live forever in infamy. But it's wrong to blame the movie. I was rather surprised to hear that Ron went there. That he thought there was some kinda connection between movie violence and real violence.... and that "movies will never be the same" etc.

If that shooter walked into the Superbowl and started firing a gun, FOOTBALL would not be blamed. "Sports" wouldn't be blamed.

Anybody making a link between movies/videogames and what happened at the movie theater is, in my opinion, simply trying (too hard!) to "make sense of this tragedy".

[deliciousV]

I think it's illogical to assign any blame -such as it is- on the MOVIE itself.
There's nothing to indicate that the shooter saw or even LIKED that movie. Surely.... he picked the theater because it he knew it would be crowded. And that he would get headlines... and live forever in infamy. But it's wrong to blame the movie. I was rather surprised to hear that Ron went there. That he thought there was some kinda connection between movie violence and real violence.... and that "movies will never be the same" etc.

If that shooter walked into the Superbowl and started firing a gun, FOOTBALL would not be blamed. "Sports" wouldn't be blamed.

Anybody making a link between movies/videogames and what happened at the movie theater is, in my opinion, simply trying (too hard!) to "make sense of this tragedy".

I never got the impression that Ron was blaming the movie, I thought he was saying that the movie would be blamed. Which seems likely, since we're all victims of something, therefore not responsible for what we do.

[TripleSkeet]

I never got the impression that Ron was blaming the movie, I thought he was saying that the movie would be blamed. Which seems likely, since we're all victims of something, therefore not responsible for what we do.

This. To a normal, rational, intelligent person this wouldnt even be an issue. Problem is most people are morons.

Its already started with people saying how when they were going to see it they kept looking around for "suspicious characters." Im embarrassed for humanity for the amount of people I saw say "Be careful" to friends that were going to see a movie last night.

[unreeshy]

...and people wonder why I still carry my gun!!!!

[underdog]

...and people wonder why I still carry my gun!!!!

So that you couldn't see anything in a smoke cloud and do nothing?

[cougarjake13]

So that you couldn't see anything in a smoke cloud and do nothing?



he had night vision googles

[PapaBear]

he had night vision googles
He meant reeshy.

[hanso]

Fred Willard would have taken out his lil warrior.

[Chigworthy]

He meant reeshy.

reeshy has night-vision instinct.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What a set of Cajones. This coming from a failed narco state which cant handle their own problems


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE86K0IL20120721?irpc=932

[CountryBob]

Just saw on NBC nightly news a quick story of how one dude sheltered a stranger and saved her life - but he didnt make it. She said that she held his hand and talked to him as he took his last breaths. Damn! :glurps:

so sad...

[A.J.]

What a set of Cajones. This coming from a failed narco state which cant handle their own problems


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE86K0IL20120721?irpc=932

But Mexico's president, who has repeatedly called on Washington to tighten gun controls to stop weapons flowing from the United States into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, said U.S. weapons policy needed a rethink after the killings.

Tell that to Eric Holder.

[spoon]

What a set of Cajones. This coming from a failed narco state which cant handle their own problems


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE86K0IL20120721?irpc=932

so they get their weapons from where?

and why do you think your loving fast and furious thing was possible? yes wf, bc they DO get their weapons from us mainly, and I think the right's take on F/F has allowed for his statements to hold even more water.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

so they get their weapons from where?

and why do you think your loving fast and furious thing was possible? yes wf, bc they DO get their weapons from us mainly, and I think the right's take on F/F has allowed for his statements to hold even more water.

F&F gave guns to the cartels via our federal government.


May-hee-co has been a bloodbath way before F&F. They have the most strict gun control laws and tens of thousands of murders have happened.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sure lets have anarchy


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/24/bloomberg-gun-control-police-strike_n_1697708.html

[spoon]

F&F gave guns to the cartels via our federal government.


May-hee-co has been a bloodbath way before F&F. They have the most strict gun control laws and tens of thousands of murders have happened.

first thanks for repeating the same shit I already know as if it changes anything with that first useless sentence. as I stated, there's a reason they came to the US in the first place, bc it's where they GET THEIR WEAPONS.

and cute "May-hee-co" comment in there too. you really can't help yourself huh?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

first thanks for repeating the same shit I already know as if it changes anything with that first useless sentence. as I stated, there's a reason they came to the US in the first place, bc it's where they GET THEIR WEAPONS.

and cute "May-hee-co" comment in there too. you really can't help yourself huh?

F&F didnt have cartel members come here, Our ATF agents walked them to the cartels


Why the fuck would Mexico lecture us when they cant get their shit in order. Then again they have the most strict immigration laws but bitch and complain that we attempt to enforce ours.

Aurora Colorado is a routine Tuesday afternoon in that country

[spoon]

yes, why would they bitch tied to the very argument you just fucking made and constantly make on f/f!? Tie this to the bloodshed IN MEXICO tied to our arms that you always bring up and HOW DARE THEY?! It's a political statement and they want change if nothing else. Why get offended that they are at least saying something that lines up with cleaning up their bloodshed, even if you simply use it against them when at the bargaining table to get something really accomplished toward that goal.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Mexico isnt doing anything to clean their bloodshed. They keep electing corrupt governments over and over. Theres corruption in the police and military as they are working hand in hand with the cartels.


Not to Downplay the killings from F&F however our governments involvement resulted in about 200 killings and is a huge scandal for our gov't.


If there was no F&F Mexico would still be a country littered with tens of thousands of bodies.

[spoon]

file that under "no shit" and "hypocrite WF" files

thanks

[hanso]

How does this turn toward " f&f " ? This is wacky as Alex Jones enough already .

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Mexico should stop lecturing to us about our laws and focus on their own problems.

[brettmojo]

How does this turn toward " f&f " ? This is wacky as Alex Jones enough already .
wf.

[Jujubees2]

Uninsured Colorado shooting victim faces $2 mln medical bill (http://rt.com/usa/news/shooting-victim-medical-hospital-158/)

[jennysmurf]

Uninsured Colorado shooting victim faces $2 mln medical bill (http://rt.com/usa/news/shooting-victim-medical-hospital-158/)

I read where the hospital waived all their treatment costs? Is this shenanigans, or was the article I read shenanigans?:wacko:

[newport king]

Some of the hospitals were, apparently not the one this kid is at. This movie has made a shit ton of money, how hard would it be for the studio to cover the costs?

[deliciousV]

Some of the hospitals were, apparently not the one this kid is at. This movie has made a shit ton of money, how hard would it be for the studio to cover the costs?

this would be an awesome act on their part, I suspect they'd have to do it on the DL though, they can't be seen as lending any credence to the idea that this is in any way the movies fault.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im sure the studios will contribute more. Maybe when more revenue comes in. The movie cost 250 million to make.

From IMDB


Box Office
Budget:
$250,000,000 (estimated)
Opening Weekend:
$160,887,295 (USA) (22 July 2012) (4404 Screens)
Gross:
$268,276,424 (Worldwide) (25 July 2012)

[Fallon]

I hate the news. One of the local teasers yesterday was "video of the batman theater massacre!!". How is high school video of him newsworthy at all???

[Jujubees2]

Im sure the studios will contribute more. Maybe when more revenue comes in. The movie cost 250 million to make.

Don't know if they will. The lawyers will get involved and say that this could be interpreted as the movie studios taking responsibility for the shootings... Could open a can of worms for the studios.

[newport king]

I hate this country sometimes. Hit him with a 2MM dollar bill and lawyers will get involved because god forbid they help the guy out.

[Furtherman]

Alleged Colo. movie theater shooter James Holmes was charged with 24 counts of murder today -- 12 counts of first-degree murder and 12 counts of murder without remorse. Prosecutors hit Holmes with dual charges for each death in the mass shooting.

Murder without remorse? I never heard that as charge. Does he have to say he's sorry for them to drop that charge?

[A.J.]

Murder without remorse? I never heard that as charge. Does he have to say he's sorry for them to drop that charge?

That's like a "hate crime". I don't know of many crimes committed out of love.

[Jujubees2]

That's like a "hate crime". I don't know of many crimes committed out of love.

See Sandusky, Jerry...

[A.J.]

See Sandusky, Jerry...

That was fucking. Not making love.

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/RAW_US-2_1093558132.jpg

[keithy_19]

Murder without remorse? I never heard that as charge. Does he have to say he's sorry for them to drop that charge?

I'm guessing it's a fancy way of saying "senseless murder".

But to answer your question, yes.

[cougarjake13]

I'm guessing it's a fancy way of saying "senseless murder".

But to answer your question, yes.


but isn't it pointless ?

the 12 counts of murder alone is enough to lock him up for life or get death penalty

[keithy_19]

but isn't it pointless ?

the 12 counts of murder alone is enough to lock him up for life or get death penalty

I think so, but it's a lawyer/law bs.

The only chance that the guy has is if the defense is able to prove insanity. I say, no shit he's insane. Doesn't mean he should get out of the maximum punishment he can get.

[hanso]

That's like a "hate crime". I don't know of many crimes committed out of love.

A crime of passion

[WRESTLINGFAN]

dark knight showing in Mexico


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/batman-movie-robbery-mexico_n_1723101.html

[Bob Impact]

Chihuahua is one of the most dangerous states on the face of the Earth, this isn't exactly shocking.

[PapaBear]

Chihuahua is one of the most dangerous states on the face of the Earth, this isn't exactly shocking.
But is sounds like such a CUTE place!

[Jujubees2]

Too early?

Jeffrey Ross admits he 'crossed a line,' but defends Colorado shooting joke (http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13143989-jeffrey-ross-admits-he-crossed-a-line-but-defends-colorado-shooting-joke?lite)

[A.J.]

Too early?

Jeffrey Ross admits he 'crossed a line,' but defends Colorado shooting joke (http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/06/13143989-jeffrey-ross-admits-he-crossed-a-line-but-defends-colorado-shooting-joke?lite)

I laughed.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im shocked that Brian Ross didnt mention the tea party over the shooting at that Sikh temple

[epo]

Im shocked that Brian Ross didnt mention the tea party over the shooting at that Sikh temple

Shut the fuck up.

[Bob Impact]

I laughed.

I didn't but it's been a long, long time since I've laughed at roast material. I think it was Patrice who said it but I don't find people being as fucked up as possible to someone they don't know funny.