2012 NFL Regular Season People Really Miss the NHL Thread

[razorboy]

Did anyone else have their audio just wonk out on Fox HD?

[Kevin]

Did anyone else have their audio just wonk out on Fox HD?

Yes, and despite the awful sound, it was bliss not having to hear Buck and Troy..

[Kevin]

That may have been the worst drop I have ever seen...

[TripleSkeet]

Philly media confirming Lurie told Andy Reid on Friday this would be his last game. Its also been reported he 100% wants to coach next year. I hope youre ready spoony baby!!!!

[razorboy]

The refs are in rare form.

[underdog]

Damn that blows. I almost forgot to do it myself this week. I think I remembered late Friday night.

Same here.

[underdog]

Philly media confirming Lurie told Andy Reid on Friday this would be his last game. Its also been reported he 100% wants to coach next year. I hope youre ready spoony baby!!!!

Yep, reporting it on red zone now, too.

If he goes to the Chargers, I'll never stop laughing.

[spoon]

Yep, reporting it on red zone now, too.

If he goes to the Chargers, I'll never stop laughing.

sadly, he's an improvement



and I highly doubt it

as the whole org is revamping, front office/gm/coaches and more

arians is a huge possibility I hear

[Kevin]

sadly, he's an improvement



and I highly doubt it

as the whole org is revamping, front office/gm/coaches and more

arians is a huge possibility I hear

If it is, its very slight.

[spoon]

If it is, its very slight.

nah, reid is just done in Philly

he led that team to the playoffs many many times, and won in them at times too

Norv can't say much of that AT ALL, even when taking over a very fucking solid team a few years ago and in Oakland or Washington. He sucks.

[underdog]

arians is a huge possibility I hear

Yeah, I imagine every team with an opening is going to go after him this offseason.

[epo]

I want Adrian Peterson tested for steroids. He is just insane.

[Kevin]

I want Adrian Peterson tested for steroids. He is just insane.

I say HGH also...

It can't be natural for him to be human...

[underdog]

I say HGH also...

It can't be natural for him to be human...

He'd be much better if he were just a bit whiter, though. Like Peyton Manning.

[Kevin]

He'd be much better if he were just a bit whiter, though. Like Peyton Manning.

Dude, Manning is amazing but his recovery was a year or a year and a half and if there is a recovery, its pretty on par with scheduled.


AP was not even what 7 months? And that is when you begin to work out, not freaking run like nothing ever happened.

[underdog]

Dude, Manning is amazing but his recovery was a year or a year and a half and if there is a recovery, its pretty on par with scheduled.


AP was not even what 7 months? And that is when you begin to work out, not freaking run like nothing ever happened.

He blew out his ACL and is close to breaking the rushing record a year later. The man deserves the MVP.

He won't win it, though.

[Kevin]

This is why you should not be stupid enough to wag your fat finger at a player that has been murdering you all game just because you stopped him once.

I am looking at your fat fingers BJ Raji!

[underdog]

I really wanted him to miss that FG, just so AP could break the record.

[Kevin]

Does every NFC Central team have a shitty 1940s fight song?

[KingModem]

Does every NFC Central team have a shitty 1940s fight song?

Skol Vikings, lets win this game. Skol Vikings, honor your name. Go get that first down, then get a touchdown. Rock 'em, Sock 'em, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

Skol Vikings, run up the score, you'll hear us cheer for more!

V - I - K - I - N - G - S ! SKOL VIKINGS, Lets GO!

[cougarjake13]

and there's romo being romo

[KnoxHarrington]

I see Romo is in his usual December form.

What happens if this game ends in a 0-0 tie?

[cougarjake13]

I see Romo is in his usual December form.

What happens if this game ends in a 0-0 tie?

skins win division since they'd be 9-6-1 and cowboys 8-7-1

[Kevin]

Yes, NY Giants..

These are the two teams you lost to and finished 3rd to...

[KnoxHarrington]

The Cowboys hand the Redskins two turnovers, and the Redskins piss them away.

The Seahawks are going to destroy whoever comes out of this game.

[cougarjake13]

Yes, NY Giants..

These are the two teams you lost to and finished 3rd to...

only if Dallas wins


Dallas loss makes us 2nd

[Kevin]

only if Dallas wins


Dallas loss makes us 2nd

We were out of it before they played so no matter what I count this as 3rd...

[cougarjake13]

We were out of it before they played so no matter what I count this as 3rd...


ok but come next season when they figure out the schedule minus the locked in division match ups other NFC division we play and afc division it'll matter

[TripleSkeet]

Good year Pick em buddies. Its about time I won one. I should start my own phone service. :smoke:

[TripleSkeet]

nah, reid is just done in Philly

he led that team to the playoffs many many times, and won in them at times too

Norv can't say much of that AT ALL, even when taking over a very fucking solid team a few years ago and in Oakland or Washington. He sucks.

Hes definitely an improvement over Turner. But Ill tell you what, if he doesnt find a REALLY good D coordinator, youre fucked. The man knows shit about defense.

Also, wherever he goes, its gonna be fucking hilarious to see the frustration the first time they have no timeouts left for a 2 minute drill or just run out of time at the end because of goofy play calls.

[Kevin]

Hes definitely an improvement over Turner. But Ill tell you what, if he doesnt find a REALLY good D coordinator, youre fucked. The man knows shit about defense.

Also, wherever he goes, its gonna be fucking hilarious to see the frustration the first time they have no timeouts left for a 2 minute drill or just run out of time at the end because of goofy play calls.

Spoon is used to it with Norv...

If there is anyone on the planet that's worse with timeouts, its Norv..

Its at best a toss up

[cougarjake13]

and there's the romo we all know and love

[KnoxHarrington]

and there's the romo we all know and love

I love how it came almost immediately after they showed a graphic on how Romo has been awesome in the 4th quarter lately.

[cougarjake13]

I love how it came almost immediately after they showed a graphic on how Romo has been awesome in the 4th quarter lately.



like the commercial says it would be weird if it didnt work


almost every time they throw up a graphic whatever that graphic is the opposite of it happens



ie. hasn't thrown an int in 245 attempts.... oops

[KnoxHarrington]

What a terrible song.

Fight songs -- every one of them -- are idiotic.

[Kevin]

What did you do to those dreams.

I shattered them.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

God Athletes are stupid.

RG3 is also the whitest sounding black QB ever..

[PapaBear]

Hey spoon... Pickem sucked this year. Buuuuuuuut....

http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls8k19A5ms1qmi862o1_500.jpg&sa=X&ei=GB3hUM3KOJTo9gTplIDAAg&ved=0CAoQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHRKY6DTFgrZKOuty6nfsexi1Fb9w

[underdog]

Good year Pick em buddies. Its about time I won one. I should start my own phone service. :smoke:

I'll take my 2nd place finish.

[PapaBear]

RG3 is also the whitest sounding black QB ever..
My dad used to like to say "He's well spoken".

[underdog]

Spoon is used to it with Norv...

If there is anyone on the planet that's worse with timeouts, its Norv..

Its at best a toss up

Andy Reid is in a class of his own. He's as bad, if not worse, than Art Shell.

[JimBeam]

Mike & Mke reporting that Tannenbaum is fired and Ryan is coming back.

[underdog]

Ryan back.

Andy Reid - FIRED
Pat Shurmur - FIRED
Chan Gailey - FIRED
Lovie Smith - FIRED
Romeo Crennel - FIRED

[Melk]

Ryan back.

Andy Reid - FIRED
Pat Shurmur - FIRED
Chan Gailey - FIRED
Lovie Smith - FIRED
Romeo Crennel - FIRED
I figure the Chicago Bears will make a hard cash offer for Andy Reid in the next week. What is the over-under?

[Snoogans]

I really really get this feeling, esp with Rex coming back and the cap hell they are headed for next year, that we can all look forward to MARK FUCKIN SANCHEZ as the Jets starting QB in 2013. I really hope im right.

[sailor]

Ryan back.

Andy Reid - FIRED
Pat Shurmur - FIRED
Chan Gailey - FIRED
Lovie Smith - FIRED
Romeo Crennel - FIRED

So there's still hope for Norv?

[KnoxHarrington]

I really really get this feeling, esp with Rex coming back and the cap hell they are headed for next year, that we can all look forward to MARK FUCKIN SANCHEZ as the Jets starting QB in 2013. I really hope im right.


Everything I've seen about this suggests that's about all they can do. Tebow was done in New York even before his little pussy tantrum about not getting to play. And they don't have room to make a deal to get a reallly good QB. Shit, there aren't even any particularly good QB's available in the draft.

[JimBeam]

Speculation on the ticker was/is that Turner's gone too.

One of the ESPN " insiders " said that Reid would prob be the 1st of the guys to get a new job and they discussed San Diego and Chicago for him.

The " insider " said that San Diego has no interest in him at all.

[TripleSkeet]

I figure the Chicago Bears will make a hard cash offer for Andy Reid in the next week. What is the over-under?

Im still betting on San Diego. He already owns a house out there. Whats taking them so long to fire Norv???

Also, CBS is reporting Gruden is going to be interviewing for head coaching jobs.

[JimBeam]

Everything I've seen about this suggests that's about all they can do. Tebow was done in New York even before his little pussy tantrum about not getting to play. And they don't have room to make a deal to get a reallly good QB. Shit, there aren't even any particularly good QB's available in the draft.

It's well understood that Tebow is far from the ideal QB and nobody's long term plan.

That being the case I still laugh at this argument that Tebow " couldn't get the Jets offense " and that's why they couldn't/didn't play him.

Yeah it's such a complex offense. One that accounted for 50+ tunrovers by 1 guy in 2 seasons.

By the way obviously Denver could run an offense, one that went to the playoffs, with him so I guess it shows you the quality of a coach and an organization.

[hanso]

All they had to do was run the option like they did in Denver. Vick has almost the same amount of turnovers in the same time.

At least they kept Tebow healthy for a trade.

[hanso]

So there's still hope for Norv?

He was to have said he expected to get fired. And it just happened along with GM A J Smith spoon must be ecstatic.

Wouldnt mind Norv being QB coach for Ryan Tannehill

[JimBeam]

All they had to do was run the option like they did in Denver. Vick has almost the same amount of turnovers in the same time.

At least they kept Tebow healthy for a trade.

I've never been a fan of Vick's but even I know he's infinitely better than Sanchez.

As far as the trade goes what are the Jets' options w/ trading Tebow versus releasing him ?

I'd guess there's a salary cap impact that's greater in one scenario ( releasing ? ) than the other.

[hanso]

I've never been a fan of Vick's but even I know he's infinitely better than Sanchez.

As far as the trade goes what are the Jets' options w/ trading Tebow versus releasing him ?

I'd guess there's a salary cap impact that's greater in one scenario ( releasing ? ) than the other.

Dunno I'm guessing he isn't owed much, the only good I see is that he stayed healthy

[underdog]

Ken Whisenhunt - FIRED

[cougarjake13]

it's a madhouse !!!!

[cougarjake13]

I've never been a fan of Vick's but even I know he's infinitely better than Sanchez.

As far as the trade goes what are the Jets' options w/ trading Tebow versus releasing him ?

I'd guess there's a salary cap impact that's greater in one scenario ( releasing ? ) than the other.

I'm sure they'd like to get a draft pick by trading him rather thn losing him for nothing but jax is the only team that wants him it seems so not likely to be a high pick if they go that route
not sure what his cap hit would be can't imagine it's that high

[spoon]

Everything I've seen about this suggests that's about all they can do. Tebow was done in New York even before his little pussy tantrum about not getting to play. And they don't have room to make a deal to get a reallly good QB. Shit, there aren't even any particularly good QB's available in the draft.

I assume zona and the jets will make an effort at some hope with smith and flynn? That's all i have...i guess vick to hold down the fort for a few years until u find something more perm.

[spoon]

Im still betting on San Diego. He already owns a house out there. Whats taking them so long to fire Norv???

Also, CBS is reporting Gruden is going to be interviewing for head coaching jobs.

Jay Gruden probably.

[A.J.]

Today is Christmas for Spoon!

[spoon]

It's well understood that Tebow is far from the ideal QB and nobody's long term plan.

That being the case I still laugh at this argument that Tebow " couldn't get the Jets offense " and that's why they couldn't/didn't play him.

Yeah it's such a complex offense. One that accounted for 50+ tunrovers by 1 guy in 2 seasons.

By the way obviously Denver could run an offense, one that went to the playoffs, with him so I guess it shows you the quality of a coach and an organization.

And so did the Jets with shitty/young Sanchez...and into the afc conf finals twice. It's called hiding him behind a controlled rushing attack and a very solid defense. Seeing just how good the denver d is this season when not on the field all fucking game shows just how much tebow had..not to mention thomas, decker, moreno, royal, stokes and mghee...much more than sanchez and the jets. Sure why not give him a shot at this point on the field, but him even having a tiny bit of success turns ny into denver last year x 10 and we have a shit Linsanity situation all over again. This time there is no manning to snag to sneak out of shit situation. Tebow is NOT the answer, and in this case I don't blame Rex at all...not even mentioning the owner forcing the move it seems.

It's amazing how much people pine for tebow who has shown nothing.

[spoon]

Today is Christmas for Spoon!

What a start/setup for 2013! The Jays actually increase payroll and some talent for a run at the playoffs for the first time in two decades! The Chargers make a long needed move and the witch of no rings is gone...as is no gameplan Norv and his 25 low percentage deep passes a game are dead!

But NOW there is news the NHL is really close! And get this, the season is potentially slted to start on or around my bday! 2013 fucking rules and it isn't even here yet!

Woooooooooo!

[Snoogans]

I assume zona and the jets will make an effort at some hope with smith and flynn? That's all i have...i guess vick to hold down the fort for a few years until u find something more perm.

the jets are like 22 mill over the cap right now for next year. i dont think they could afford to eat sanchez deal and bring in flynn, vick, smith, fuckin kolb or anyone. I think it will be Sanchez next year with McElroy and some scrub to pretend to challenge sanchez, maybe a vince young or the like

[Snoogans]

What a start/setup for 2013! The Jays actually increase payroll and some talent for a run at the playoffs for the first time in two decades! The Chargers make a long needed move and the witch of no rings is gone...as is no gameplan Norv and his 25 low percentage deep passes a game are dead!

But NOW there is news the NHL is really close! And get this, the season is potentially slted to start on or around my bday! 2013 fucking rules and it isn't even here yet!

Woooooooooo!

maybe this is the new era the mayans were talkin about.

until the chargers hire andy reid, anyway

[TripleSkeet]

Jay Gruden probably.

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000119910/gruden-reportedly-to-interview-for-open-nfl-headcoaching-jobs/

[TripleSkeet]

maybe this is the new era the mayans were talkin about.

until the chargers hire andy reid, anyway

I would laugh so hard.

[cougarjake13]

starting off well but well they finish ? (spoons teams)

[newport king]

starting off well but well they finish ? (spoons teams)

San Diego will hire Reid or some other lackluster coach. Toronto will finish 2nd at best as Josh Johnson will spend 3mos on the DL. Reyes will continue to play unfundamental baseball because hes too busy fuckin dancing (met fans are very familiar with this). And hockey will probably come back but no one will notice.

[Kevin]

700 coaches and coordinators fired today and none were named Kevin Gilbride,,,

not surprised but still irritated!

At least Rex was not fired!

[Kevin]

San Diego will hire Reid or some other lackluster coach. Toronto will finish 2nd at best as Josh Johnson will spend 3mos on the DL. Reyes will continue to play unfundamental baseball because hes too busy fuckin dancing (met fans are very familiar with this). And hockey will probably come back but no one will notice.

Reyes will not be dancing because he will have leg and hammy problems due to the art turf....

I give both cases probably late June the latest...

[spoon]

starting off well but well they finish ? (spoons teams)

can't be much worse

[spoon]

San Diego will hire Reid or some other lackluster coach. Toronto will finish 2nd at best as Josh Johnson will spend 3mos on the DL. Reyes will continue to play unfundamental baseball because hes too busy fuckin dancing (met fans are very familiar with this). And hockey will probably come back but no one will notice.

I will...and don't give a fuck if anyone else does or not. And let's not act like that's even close to accurate too.

[Kevin]

I will...and don't give a fuck if anyone else does or not. And let's not act like that's even close to accurate too.

Heard the deal would hurt the Rangers the most.

But it should. The loophole where if you send a guy to the minors he won't count in the cap is bullshit.

Redden would count for 5.7min in the cap, that would be a killer.

But it should teach people not to give stupid deals to bums..

[spoon]

Reyes will not be dancing because he will have leg and hammy problems due to the art turf....

I give both cases probably late June the latest...

toronto's turf is not that bad...it's the upgraded safer shit

and there is word on grass for a Roger's Center, and whispers on a new stadium in the future if things get rolling

roger's is fucking loaded and owns everything up there

I'm sure this is about when the cap will come since the yanks are claiming they won't be spending as in the past, and I'll be for it still obviously. Yet it wouldn't be surprising for it to go down this way with the timing, IF NYY is actually laying low for a while (doubtful).

[spoon]

Heard the deal would hurt the Rangers the most.

But it should. The loophole where if you send a guy to the minors he won't count in the cap is bullshit.

Redden would count for 5.7min in the cap, that would be a killer.

But it should teach people not to give stupid deals to bums..

well it's good and bad, as some shitty deals will always be around based on this being a high injury prone sport, concussions and all, limiting the best of players on HUGE contracts. so I want some security for that and some mis dealings like Redden. Not all, but some.

[spoon]

I would laugh so hard.

Reid's farewell to Philly and his team was pretty damn solid. It was just time, everyone knew it. You can tell he has zero ill will and truly understands, much less wants the best for Philly. I was impressed on how well he handled it all. Very cool.

[newport king]

Read something the other day that said canadians for the most part dont miss the nhl. I know hockey has its hardcore fans, (nothing better than playoff hockey) but it was barely hanging on as a top 4 sport as is, and Bettman just fucks up everything. So i think its more accurate than you think. Or are at least willing to admit.When the league is up and running, its barely mentioned on Sportscenter

[Kevin]

well it's good and bad, as some shitty deals will always be around based on this being a high injury prone sport, concussions and all, limiting the best of players on HUGE contracts. so I want some security for that and some mis dealings like Redden. Not all, but some.

Hey, you sign a deal, you should have to reap its rewards or misfortunes..


Its part of every sport,

I don't think in the NFL you get cap relief if your players go down or you send him to the practice squad..

Neither NBA if you send them to the D league..

[razorboy]

When the league is up and running, its barely mentioned on Sportscenter

Shockingly that happened at the exact moment ABC/ESPN and the NHL parted ways.

[newport king]

Just wait till Reyes tries advancing to 3rd from 2nd on a ball hit in front of him. Its dumb shit like that where you'll grow tired of his shit real quick. And hes fragile. Always something.

[underdog]

Reid's farewell to Philly and his team was pretty damn solid. It was just time, everyone knew it. You can tell he has zero ill will and truly understands, much less wants the best for Philly. I was impressed on how well he handled it all. Very cool.

yeah, I was also impressed. That was good stuff.

[Kevin]

Shockingly that happened at the exact moment ABC/ESPN and the NHL parted ways.

The same place that goes gaga over a Ho hum LeBron game but does not mention ONCE another player on the Magic having 20pts 29 rebounds.

Espn would just cover the Rangers Wings and probably 4 other teams

[cougarjake13]

I don't even remember espn covering them much before they had the deal and obviously not much since it ended

[spoon]

Read something the other day that said canadians for the most part dont miss the nhl. I know hockey has its hardcore fans, (nothing better than playoff hockey) but it was barely hanging on as a top 4 sport as is, and Bettman just fucks up everything. So i think its more accurate than you think. Or are at least willing to admit.When the league is up and running, its barely mentioned on Sportscenter

barely missed in Canada!? wow so off

there was just a report on how it's hurting the overall economy a TON and people all over the country are pissed. go watch that hockey ad by Nike too, it's awesome and played only in Canada for a reason

on the espn thing, no shit. they haven't given a shit since they tried to fuck over the NHL with it's dealings and lost the rights. so, no NHL Tonight, no coverage and NBC has been starting to be very good for the league...every single playoff game was broadcast for the first time ever last season...incredible in itself, but now nothing is missed. Yet judging on sportscenter is HILARIOUS...as it'll cover the yankees 5 times in an hour segment like a top 20 radio station and the WNBA despite popularity bc it simply HAS IT.

[spoon]

Hey, you sign a deal, you should have to reap its rewards or misfortunes..


Its part of every sport,

I don't think in the NFL you get cap relief if your players go down or you send him to the practice squad..

Neither NBA if you send them to the D league..

it's a different sport, with different caps and different injuries and ups and downs

the NHL's cap is so low you simply can't make almost a single mistake and survive without some rules to abate the issue.

[spoon]

Shockingly that happened at the exact moment ABC/ESPN and the NHL parted ways.

yep

thank you

[newport king]

Im not saying i like espn. I think its a joke. But theres no denying their cornering the market

[spoon]

Im not saying i like espn. I think its a joke. But theres no denying their cornering the market

I'd say the additions of the NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL channels...on top of all the regional sports networks and national attempts like NBC sports that will stand the test of time much better than CNNSI for sure means if anything ESPN is starting to be tested of late much more. there's a reason they have gone to "regional" break off sites and shows of late too.

[newport king]

Show of hands, please -- red-knuckled hands, hands sheathed too long in Bauer or Cooper or CCM hockey gloves, gloves that smell so wretched they can trigger my gag reflex even now, as a mere memory: How many of you miss the National Hockey League?

No one? Not one of you? OK then, how many of you remember the National Hockey League, or Cooper hockey gloves and helmets, which haven't existed for ages but were once reasonably popular and are still widely available on eBay by searching that most redundant of phrases, "vintage hockey"?

All hockey is now "vintage" hockey, of course, the game having disappeared in America first from national television, then from highlight shows, then from our shrinking sports sections, and finally from arenas altogether, like the cartoon magician who packed all his wonderful props and finally himself into a single steamer trunk and shuffled off the stage.

I have vague memories of having seen such a cartoon, and vague memories of having seen the National Hockey League for that matter, though it once had 30 teams playing in Canada and the United States, and several players who were routinely mentioned in sports pages and even sometimes in the culture at large. There was a popular player named Wayne Gretzky who also served as a judge on Dance Fever. And Cam Neely of the Boston Bruins spat in a hamburger in the film Dumb and Dumber.

There are almost certainly other examples of NHL players who crossed over. They just don't spring to mind at the moment, because the memories are so distant, so hazy, obscured by the 21st century version of the NHL, a league that expanded from the Rust Belt (Detroit, Chicago) to the Sun Belt (Nashville, Raleigh) to the Sansabelt (Phoenix, Miami) and now occupies a place in the universe somewhere beyond Orion's Belt, invisible to the naked eye and gazed on only by lonely obsessives with telescopes (or a season ticket to the Columbus Blue Jackets).

The league largely exists (where it exists at all) in the past tense, to judge by the teeming racks of Hartford Whalers gear for sale at the gift shops in the Hartford airport, where the correct local time is 1982. When a high-wattage star was needed for a national occasion last week, it was former Ranger goalie Mike Richter, 46, answering phones during the Hurricane Sandy charity concert at Madison Square Garden.

None of this would be worth commenting on if the league's demise weren't so relatively swift, and so nearly comprehensive. Canada's Globe and Mail this week ran a story about Level5, a brand-analysis company that surveyed 1,066 Canadians and found only one third of the country still passionate about the NHL, while one third is neutral and one third is entirely without interest. Level5's CEO, David Kincaid, said the NHL's brand has been damaged "at levels we have not seen. It's quite alarming, really. If anyone thinks that the lockout can end and everyone will come back to Happy Valley, it ain't going to happen."

When the NHL has lost most Canadians, what hope has it in the rest of the world? The league's fade to black was of course a monumentally stupid act of self-destruction but also -- all flippancy aside -- a sad one to the handful of us who never got completely over it.

Without Googling a calendar from that year, I know that September 22, 1973 was a Saturday, because I came downstairs that morning, on my 7th birthday, to find my dad still drinking coffee at the breakfast table. In front of him was a brown paper sack containing my present: A green Minnesota North Stars jersey. I cannot recall a single birthday present before or since, but the memory of hockey, to a native Minnesotan, never entirely disappears. It smells to me like wool and iron-on numbers and a brown paper sack from the Red Owl grocery.

None of which will mean much to you if the only NHL you've known is the one that skipped two of its last eight seasons fighting over revenue streams. Those streams are rapidly becoming like that riverbed on Mars, the one the Curiosity rover photographed in September: Dry, distant and ancient, defying us to believe that anything ever flowed there.

[newport king]

that was the article. steve rushin. from SI

[NickyL0885]

I'd say the additions of the NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL channels...on top of all the regional sports networks and national attempts like NBC sports that will stand the test of time much better than CNNSI for sure means if anything ESPN is starting to be tested of late much more. there's a reason they have gone to "regional" break off sites and shows of late too.

MLB Network is the best of those.

[razorboy]

MLB Network is the best of those.

I can't abide any network that employs Kevin Millar and Chris Rose.

[spoon]

very scientific

1/3 neutral and or 1/3passionate = 2/3 care about the NHL

that's about normal without a miserable strike and Bettman at the helm

sorry, I fail to see the validity of any of this, much less steve rushin's care of hockey even WHEN he was in Minny. He's now all bball married to Lobo and he never gave two fucks about hockey in reality...much less SI. Most US venues don't.

[newport king]

The fact that it took them till 2012 to televise every playoff game is a joke in itself

[hanso]

San Diego will hire Reid or some other lackluster coach. Toronto will finish 2nd at best as Josh Johnson will spend 3mos on the DL. Reyes will continue to play unfundamental baseball because hes too busy fuckin dancing (met fans are very familiar with this). And hockey will probably come back but no one will notice.

Of all the players they got those 2 stood out to me last season

[NickyL0885]

I can't abide any network that employs Kevin Millar and Chris Rose.

I love Intentional Talk. One of the best shows on the network Got Heeeeem!

[spoon]

The fact that it took them till 2012 to televise every playoff game is a joke in itself

well the first round was tough with so many games going at the same time

but with nbc they go full on olympic style and put one on every outlet

nba has the same problem as well, but always had espn and TNT/tbs I believe

hockey in the US has always been a red headed step child, as most can't follow it, aren't informed on it, never played it...much less the translation to tv for people like that

and truth be told, I'd have it no other way

keep hockey for actual hockey people, not the fringe sports fan that goes bt them like a game whore...which should help keep the game pure with fighting, checking and 1-0 great goalie battles versus just scoring scoring scoring driving everything.

[spoon]

Of all the players they got those 2 stood out to me last season

if people get injured, it happens, so be it

and like I said, couldn't possibly be worse than last year where they lost 3/5 of their fucking starting rotation in 4 days and their top player not long after. lost our closer in the first fucking month too, along with countless #5-7 type pitchers that should have been there to fill in

my biggest acquisition issue is easily with Melky

fucking hate cheaters, ex yanks and truly don't like him around

not a fan

[Kevin]

well the first round was tough with so many games going at the same time

but with nbc they go full on olympic style and put one on every outlet

nba has the same problem as well, but always had espn and TNT/tbs I believe

hockey in the US has always been a red headed step child, as most can't follow it, aren't informed on it, never played it...much less the translation to tv for people like that

and truth be told, I'd have it no other way

keep hockey for actual hockey people, not the fringe sports fan that goes bt them like a game whore...which should help keep the game pure with fighting, checking and 1-0 great goalie battles versus just scoring scoring scoring driving everything.

Sad part is the only shot they had of possibly being anything other than #4 was ruined by Bettman in 95...

They had Nike commercials, ratings, Rangers just ended a big drought.

Now? I remember when Gillet had those ads with Tiger Jeter and Federer. Then they added a fucking Soccer guy.... You think someone like Crosby or any other young star would not have fit in there?

Those goalie Ads in the 90s ruled!

DIE MAPLE LEAFS DIE!

Its Bettman and just terrible marketing..

[TripleSkeet]

Reid's farewell to Philly and his team was pretty damn solid. It was just time, everyone knew it. You can tell he has zero ill will and truly understands, much less wants the best for Philly. I was impressed on how well he handled it all. Very cool.

I have no ill will towards the guy. He gave me some great years here. I dont think hes a bad coach either, I just think at a certain point the message stops getting through and a change is necessary.

The only reason I say Id laugh is because his shortcomings are SOOOO frustrating (clock management, 2 minute drills, timeouts wasted, inability to adapt mid game) and they are very similar to some of Norvs problems. Also, after awhile hearing "Ive got to put the players in a better position to win the game" after a loss gets old after the 20th or so time you hear it. I hear hes a very funny, personable guy, he just refuses to show it to the fans.

[spoon]

Sad part is the only shot they had of possibly being anything other than #4 was ruined by Bettman in 95...

They had Nike commercials, ratings, Rangers just ended a big drought.

Now? I remember when Gillet had those ads with Tiger Jeter and Federer. Then they added a fucking Soccer guy.... You think someone like Crosby or any other young star would not have fit in there?

Those goalie Ads in the 90s ruled!

DIE MAPLE LEAFS DIE!

Its Bettman and just terrible marketing..

nhl isn't going to find it's popularity in the US by winning in NY, sorry

it simply can't hold up versus MLB, NFL and even NBA

it's a niche sport bc it's not easy in any way...hard to play, expensive to buy the gear, hard to find a rink (especially as you go south/more than half the country), expensive to play, not a part of our culture like eastern europe, russia and canada and surely not covered well here

until some of this changes, the lowest popular (by sheer numbers) sport in NYC is NOT going to launch the US into NHL love...in fact, I would argue northern and mid western team help more (Minny, Detroit, Colorado and of course the Boston/New England area). In NY and LA, it's great for the core fans, may even make some more, but it'll never bridge the gap even bt that and it's closest sport here or anywhere else bc of NY winning. Look at the LA Kings coming off the championship...sure there are some passionate true fans there, but they are right back to NBA there and MLB around the corner will soon take a huge part of their fandom. Yet in north, northeast and of course Canada, the sport is a religion.

it's about player branding, and unfortunately Crosby is hated now. Federov has a great two way game and was respected, as were guys like Sakic and Yzerman...however, all are mild mannered quiet guys and it's tough to sell that to US audiences. I hope it doesn't happen too, as I like the sport as is. Love the code, respect and pureness of the game versus one bastardized based on the eb and flow of the fickle fringe fan.

[Kevin]

nhl isn't going to find it's popularity in the US by winning in NY, sorry

it simply can't hold up versus MLB, NFL and even NBA

it's a niche sport bc it's not easy in any way...hard to play, expensive to buy the gear, hard to find a rink (especially as you go south/more than half the country), expensive to play, not a part of our culture like eastern europe, russia and canada and surely not covered well here

until some of this changes, the lowest popular (by sheer numbers) sport in NYC is NOT going to launch the US into NHL love...in fact, I would argue northern and mid western team help more (Minny, Detroit, Colorado and of course the Boston/New England area). In NY and LA, it's great for the core fans, may even make some more, but it'll never bridge the gap even bt that and it's closest sport here or anywhere else bc of NY winning. Look at the LA Kings coming off the championship...sure there are some passionate true fans there, but they are right back to NBA there and MLB around the corner will soon take a huge part of their fandom. Yet in north, northeast and of course Canada, the sport is a religion.

it's about player branding, and unfortunately Crosby is hated now. Federov has a great two way game and was respected, as were guys like Sakic and Yzerman...however, all are mild mannered quiet guys and it's tough to sell that to US audiences. I hope it doesn't happen too, as I like the sport as is. Love the code, respect and pureness of the game versus one bastardized based on the eb and flow of the fickle fringe fan.

I don't think NY winning will either.

I was just saying it was a factor in the pot back then.

[spoon]

I just want hockey back, and my team isn't even a favorite to make the playoffs, much less to win it all like your Rangers.

[Kevin]

I just want hockey back, and my team isn't even a favorite to make the playoffs, much less to win it all like your Rangers.

Nash hurt his groin while playing in Sweden... I wonder how he is doing with that..

[spoon]

Nash hurt his groin while playing in Sweden... I wonder how he is doing with that..

sucks, but he's not a goalie so he should be ok

with all this rest at least

[NickyL0885]

sucks, but he's not a goalie so he should be ok

with all this rest at least

They need a deal by the 11th for a puck drop by the 19th. So, we'll know soon enough.

[hanso]

Nfl tv net is showing a bunch of 'A football life' shows not a bad show imo

[JimBeam]

And so did the Jets with shitty/young Sanchez...and into the afc conf finals twice. It's called hiding him behind a controlled rushing attack and a very solid defense. Seeing just how good the denver d is this season when not on the field all fucking game shows just how much tebow had..not to mention thomas, decker, moreno, royal, stokes and mghee...much more than sanchez and the jets. Sure why not give him a shot at this point on the field, but him even having a tiny bit of success turns ny into denver last year x 10 and we have a shit Linsanity situation all over again. This time there is no manning to snag to sneak out of shit situation. Tebow is NOT the answer, and in this case I don't blame Rex at all...not even mentioning the owner forcing the move it seems.

It's amazing how much people pine for tebow who has shown nothing.

When the hell is it ever Sanchez's fault that he sucks and isn't an NFL QB ?

So many excuses are made for a guy that never should've been considered good let alone great.

He " leads " a team w/ a good defense and running game to the playoffs so he gets all that credit but as soon as things go bad the reasons are because he doesn't have an O-line, no RBs, no WRs, etc ...

Sure he might not have any great WRs but how many QBs do ?

Would the WRs on Seattle be considered great ? ( I don't know myself but I don't think so ). What about the Rams ?

He could've had Jerry Rice and Randy Moss in that Tenn game and those passes into double and triple coverage are still INTs.

Let's not forget they backed into the playoffs his 1st season because the Colts played lame. The 2nd year they should've lost the 1st game, to the Colts, because Manning leads his team down to take a lead w/ less than 2 minutes and his KO coverage team gives up a huge return allowing the Jets to kick a FG to win it.

Sanchez wasn't Joe Montana in any of those playoff wins so let's not get silly. Sure HE won on the road but let's make sure the rest of the team get's their due.

[Melk]

Im still betting on San Diego. He already owns a house out there. Whats taking them so long to fire Norv???

Also, CBS is reporting Gruden is going to be interviewing for head coaching jobs.
After some consideration, I think the lazy Chicago Bears ownership will just promote someone from within. The Bears suck. I don't think John Gruden would take a job in Chicago.

[zildjian361]

I dont but a lotta my friends do. Is it Spring traing yet

[spoon]

When the hell is it ever Sanchez's fault that he sucks and isn't an NFL QB ?

So many excuses are made for a guy that never should've been considered good let alone great.

He " leads " a team w/ a good defense and running game to the playoffs so he gets all that credit but as soon as things go bad the reasons are because he doesn't have an O-line, no RBs, no WRs, etc ...

Sure he might not have any great WRs but how many QBs do ?

Would the WRs on Seattle be considered great ? ( I don't know myself but I don't think so ). What about the Rams ?

He could've had Jerry Rice and Randy Moss in that Tenn game and those passes into double and triple coverage are still INTs.

Let's not forget they backed into the playoffs his 1st season because the Colts played lame. The 2nd year they should've lost the 1st game, to the Colts, because Manning leads his team down to take a lead w/ less than 2 minutes and his KO coverage team gives up a huge return allowing the Jets to kick a FG to win it.

Sanchez wasn't Joe Montana in any of those playoff wins so let's not get silly. Sure HE won on the road but let's make sure the rest of the team get's their due.

yes, that was my point...they both suck

just tebow more so bc he doesn't even have nfl qb skills that believe it or not Sanchez does

the only reason the jets and rex are sticking with Sanchez is bc Rex is tied to him based on him pushing to have the jets move up to get him, Rex is loyal to a fault, Sanchez has the jets screwed cap wise for two years or one real bad one and of course the tebow option isn't some great alternative...in fact, it probably causes MORE issues beyond where we are already

bottom line is BOTH benefitted by their TEAM overall, especially D and ground game to get them into any playoff, just Sanchez has a touch more ability and got further more often. tebow sucks, nobody is saying Sanchez doesn't too.

[epo]

After some consideration, I think the lazy Chicago Bears ownership will just promote someone from within. The Bears suck. I don't think John Gruden would take a job in Chicago.

Lazy? I disagree. The McCaskey's are ridiculously cheap.

[hanso]

Rex didnt follow the Herm Edwards model and they can keep up the clown act along with the Bills. All my Fins have to do is spend some cap cash / use their many picks to get a few more wins and get in wildcard by default.

[cougarjake13]

Rex didnt follow the Herm Edwards model and they can keep up the clown act along with the Bills. All my Fins have to do is spend some cap cash / use their many picks to get a few more wins and get in wildcard by default.


def a possibility

[Melk]

Lazy? I disagree. The McCaskey's are ridiculously cheap.
Lazy. They keep some of the most useless personnel even when dumping them is cheaper.

The McCaskeys are lazy first, cheap second.

[NickyL0885]

Word is Andy Reid will most likely be the next HC of the Cardinals.

[razorboy]

Lazy? I disagree. The McCaskey's are ridiculously cheap.

Seems about right. They've asked for permission to interview the special teams coaches from the Falcons and Cowboys. I hear they're also interested in Kansas City's water boy.

[cougarjake13]

Word is Andy Reid will most likely be the next HC of the Cardinals.



which totally proves the rooney rule is a joke


i get its importance but what good is it if teams just bring in the ted cotrells and denny greens just so they comply and hire who they wanted in first place ?




i dont know if the rule was in place yet but i dont think lovie smith or marvin lewis got hired bc of it , it was bc the owners and gm thought they were the best men for the job

now i know the rooney rule helps the lesser known minority coaches get recognition but we now live in a world where herm edwards got hired twice, romeo crennel twice,denny green twice, art shell twice,dungy twice, lovie will get another gig, marvins still in cincy tomlin in pitt and frazier still in minny

as well as countless other first timers such as hue jackson, raheem morris, jim caldwell and several interim coaches


so hopefully we get to a point where we have the rule but no one cares bc theyll be plenty of coaches and assistants and the best will be chosen

[TripleSkeet]

Word is Andy Reid will most likely be the next HC of the Cardinals.

95% chance. They are gonna interview their d coordinator, then thank him and hire Andy. Didnt know his wife was from Phoenix and had family there. Oh well. Hes gonna need some luck if SF and Seattle continue to play like they have been. Not gonna be an easy division to trample like he had here most of the time.

[cougarjake13]

95% chance. They are gonna interview their d coordinator, then thank him and hire Andy. Didnt know his wife was from Phoenix and had family there. Oh well. Hes gonna need some luck if SF and Seattle continue to play like they have been. Not gonna be an easy division to trample like he had here most of the time.



and he gets to re-unite with his man double k

[razorboy]

and he gets to re-unite with his man double k

Kolb is a problem Reid thought he got rid of. I'm still shocked any NFL teams thought he was even a passable option as a starter, much less a good one. Even in his starts in Philly he was pretty terrible. Just all kinds of wrong fundamentally. It'll be hilarious if Reid ends up cutting him.

[cougarjake13]

Kolb is a problem Reid thought he got rid of. I'm still shocked any NFL teams thought he was even a passable option as a starter, much less a good one. Even in his starts in Philly he was pretty terrible. Just all kinds of wrong fundamentally. It'll be hilarious if Reid ends up cutting him.



depends in what they do in draft or free agency plus kolbs cap hit
but I don't see how he starts for them and prolly will get cut

[hanso]

which totally proves the rooney rule is a joke


i get its importance but what good is it if teams just bring in the ted cotrells and denny greens just so they comply and hire who they wanted in first place ?




i dont know if the rule was in place yet but i dont think lovie smith or marvin lewis got hired bc of it , it was bc the owners and gm thought they were the best men for the job

now i know the rooney rule helps the lesser known minority coaches get recognition but we now live in a world where herm edwards got hired twice, romeo crennel twice,denny green twice, art shell twice,dungy twice, lovie will get another gig, marvins still in cincy tomlin in pitt and frazier still in minny

as well as countless other first timers such as hue jackson, raheem morris, jim caldwell and several interim coaches


so hopefully we get to a point where we have the rule but no one cares bc theyll be plenty of coaches and assistants and the best will be chosen

Well it is called black friday..just ask lovie smith..ditka said him getting fired was a joke.

[spoon]

not sure SD should go old again with their HC

Turner was 60 and the game, especially overall, had passed him by

so is Arians at 60 a risk?

It's an improvement I'm sure, but it's a factor the scares me. Hell, Cowher has been away from football almost a decade and he's only 55. I think the NFL needs sharp, young and quick to adapt minds. Only a select few greats can keep up into their 60's if you ask me, yet too young is obviously an issue too. I'd say the sweet spot for coaching is around 40-55. Earlier you have to be very experienced for the age, later very sharp and forward thinking.

[A.J.]

I can't abide any network that employs Kevin Millar and Chris Rose.

This dude doesn't abide.

[cougarjake13]

not sure SD should go old again with their HC

Turner was 60 and the game, especially overall, had passed him by

so is Arians at 60 a risk?

It's an improvement I'm sure, but it's a factor the scares me. Hell, Cowher has been away from football almost a decade and he's only 55. I think the NFL needs sharp, young and quick to adapt minds. Only a select few greats can keep up into their 60's if you ask me, yet too young is obviously an issue too. I'd say the sweet spot for coaching is around 40-55. Earlier you have to be very experienced for the age, later very sharp and forward thinking.

cowher retired after 06 season that's hardly almost a decade

almost a decade for me is 8-10

[KnoxHarrington]

I just kind of get the feeling that Cowher would have returned to the NFL if he truly wanted to. I mean, there have been many job openings in the time since he retired, and you gotta think he would have been very high on the list for any team if he wanted one. He's got a good gig now, and he certainly doesn't have the pressure on him now he did then.

[cougarjake13]

he's probably waiting for what he thinks is a good job

word was he was interested in giants til coughlin won a Super Bowl and then a 2 nd one last year

[spoon]

cowher retired after 06 season that's hardly almost a decade

almost a decade for me is 8-10

ok

for me it's running up on a decade...and a long time by NFL standards with how the game evolves rapidly of late. rule changes alone have influenced this in a huge way

[spoon]

I just kind of get the feeling that Cowher would have returned to the NFL if he truly wanted to. I mean, there have been many job openings in the time since he retired, and you gotta think he would have been very high on the list for any team if he wanted one. He's got a good gig now, and he certainly doesn't have the pressure on him now he did then.

i think it's more of the RIGHT job opening up, as many guys like Gruden and Cowher have been rumored as only interested in top traditional programs, specifically the Giants for both

let's be honest, the seattle, tenn, jacksonville, st. louis and tampa gigs aren't a real great jump for a guy who won in f'n Pitt already. he at least wants bigger or better at this point. Cowher made it clear he wasn't interested in a new HC job while his wife was really sick. he dedicated the last few years to her as she slipped away unfortunately. now that it has been a while and his kids are much more independent, I could see him coming back

SD is a great location, but the owner/owner's family sucks ass up until now. AJ being gone will help, but the next gm is key to attracting guys like Cowher for real. Miami is a very similar situation last year, and I'm sure their attraction to top coaches was hurt there too. The other NY team would be of great potential, IF they ever learned how to stay out of the bullshit back pages and focus on running a quality org...so that kills the market/fan take there too. Dallas and Washington are great orgs DOMINATED by asshole owners too.

So in reality, there are very few top notch programs top to bottom, owners included. Say what you about the likes of Denver (their owner can rub people the wrong way overall), but the org has to be considered top level over the years, maybe only behind the likes of GB, NE, Pitt and NYG. And they of all of the teams listed were the only one to have an opening in the recent past, much less nobody lined up to take over like in Pitt (replaced Cowher oddly enough).

I think Gruden can be swayed and will be swayed much easier with money and location, not so specific to program, gm and ownership. It may not be this year, but the booth will become boring soon for him. He's still young, as he's not even 50 yet.

[spoon]

he's probably waiting for what he thinks is a good job

word was he was interested in giants til coughlin won a Super Bowl and then a 2 nd one last year

highly doubt he would have taken it around the first sb based on what I just wrote about his wife

[Kevin]

highly doubt he would have taken it around the first sb based on what I just wrote about his wife

Probably not....

Was she sick then?

But I think he still would have given it a good thought.

He would be the Giant coach this past year if The Giants did not make the playoffs in 11 or even had a stink div rd...

[spoon]

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[spoon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_h9Xs4CMAAzCZf.jpg:large

accurate dick's display

:lol:

[Snoogans]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_h9Xs4CMAAzCZf.jpg:large

accurate (except for the fact they are all black)dick's display

:lol:

fixed

[Kevin]

ok

for me it's running up on a decade...and a long time by NFL standards with how the game evolves rapidly of late. rule changes alone have influenced this in a huge way

Wait...

Didn't you blast dude! last week about this when he said you were doing this 12 years?

Saying its not 12 years, its 11.something?

[NickyL0885]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_psuVjCMAEtNKm.jpg:large

[spoon]

fixed

sigh

yes, that was the point...:wallbash:

they're mannequins too by the way, not people

[spoon]

Wait...

Didn't you blast dude! last week about this when he said you were doing this 12 years?

Saying its not 12 years, its 11.something?

when he is being specific and using timelines in his point, it's extremely different

especially since I stated close to a decade in my point, not said 10 fucking years...not to mention we just flipped a calendar years since, yet it still won't be 12 until October...you know when he posted it and it was 11 years

[underdog]

http://i.imgur.com/AUKIW.jpg

[TripleSkeet]

Best part is on WIP they are saying theres rumors hes gonna sign McNabb to start while he grooms a QB.

[razorboy]

It's interesting. Before any of this news I honestly thought Reid would be the kind of coach that could get the most out of Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson specifically. I might even explore trying to trade down and taking Wilson later in the first if they can find a team enamored with Smith, Lotulelei or Joeckel. There is still a ton of talent on that team.

[Snoogans]

I might even explore trying to trade down and taking Wilson later in the first if they can find a team enamored with Smith, Lotulelei or Joeckel. There is still a ton of talent on that team.

i would never draft a QB who lost a shootout QB Duel against GARY FUCKIN NOVA.


Just sayin

[underdog]

Best part is on WIP they are saying theres rumors hes gonna sign McNabb to start while he grooms a QB.

I think it would be hilarious if he made Quinn or Cassel look good for a year, then traded him to Arizona & Todd Haley for draft picks, and then picked a real QB.

[keithy_19]

i would never draft a QB who lost a shootout QB Duel against GARY FUCKIN NOVA.


Just sayin

:lol:

[razorboy]

i would never draft a QB who lost a shootout QB Duel against GARY FUCKIN NOVA.


Just sayin

He didn't have the kind of progression from his junior to senior year one would have liked to have seen, but he is talented and has the best fundamental base of any QB in this draft. The game passed John L Smith by a decade ago and even if he hadn't been in over his head, you had to expect some team regression with the turmoil surrounding the program. I saw his teammates on offense fail him more often than him really looking all that bad. I expect he'll have a similar draft day as Jake Locker did. The disappointing year will push him down some, but he'll still go in the first.

[Snoogans]

He didn't have the kind of progression from his junior to senior year one would have liked to have seen, but he is talented and has the best fundamental base of any QB in this draft. The game passed John L Smith by a decade ago and even if he hadn't been in over his head, you had to expect some team regression with the turmoil surrounding the program. I saw his teammates on offense fail him more often than him really looking all that bad. I expect he'll have a similar draft day as Jake Locker did. The disappointing year will push him down some, but he'll still go in the first.

relax, i obviously just wanted to make fun of gary nova. In actuality, Wilson had just come back from injury and still wasnt 100 % in the game and actually put up more yards and better % than nova. Arkansas D is what cost them that game.

I actually give wilson credit. Anyone who can put 35-40 points up on Rutgers D must be pretty good

[KnoxHarrington]

Jerry Jones says "change" is coming to the Cowboys after they missed the playoffs.

"I'm going to spend a lot of time visiting with people outside of the organization ... that will help us evaluate how to do the things that I know what our fans want to do, and that's not be sitting here at .500," Jones said. "There are a lot of teams that haven't been at .500, but nobody hasn't been at .500 and spent as much cash as I'm spending." ... [Jones] didn't mince words on shaking things up: "I can tell you change is necessary at 8-8. We're going to have changes."

Well, Jerry, a good change might be hiring an actual GM.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/359971-jerry-jones-change-is-coming?sct=hp_bf2_a4&eref=sihp

[razorboy]

Rex Ryan's Mark Sanchez obsession is slightly more disturbing than previously thought. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/tatted-rex-kinky-ink-wife-likeness-sanchez-jersey-article-1.1232856)

[Judge Smails]

Rex Ryan's Mark Sanchez obsession is slightly more disturbing than previously thought. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/tatted-rex-kinky-ink-wife-likeness-sanchez-jersey-article-1.1232856)

There’s not a Tim Tebow tat to be found.


Look closer, Daily News. She's Tebowing while wearing the Sanchez jersey. Nice bare feet on the tattoo also.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1232930.1357286618!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/rex-ryan-jets-tattoo-beach.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Rex Ryan's Mark Sanchez obsession is slightly more disturbing than previously thought. (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/tatted-rex-kinky-ink-wife-likeness-sanchez-jersey-article-1.1232856)


totally expected that to be an onion article

shocked as shit it wasnt

[Judge Smails]

totally expected that to be an onion article

shocked as shit it wasnt

This is a Jets tradition. Remember Mangini named his son after Brett Favre.

[cougarjake13]

that explains browning kotite

[underdog]

Hey skeet, you haven't won the pick 'em yet. Apparently they keep going through the playoffs.

[TripleSkeet]

Hey skeet, you haven't won the pick 'em yet. Apparently they keep going through the playoffs.

They always have. But in the past we only counted the regular season as far as who won. Dont worry, Im gonna keep picking.

[spoon]

They always have. But in the past we only counted the regular season as far as who won. Dont worry, Im gonna keep picking.

yah he won in my book

we have usually played that way, as they need to start new ones for the playoffs in my mind

[underdog]

yah he won in my book

we have usually played that way, as they need to start new ones for the playoffs in my mind

He definitely won. I'm interested to see if I can catch him anyway.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/284511_10151271954717740_95455394_n.jpg

[cougarjake13]

chip Kelly to be new browns coach

[underdog]

chip Kelly to be new browns coach

Good luck.

It should be fun to see his type of offense in the AFC North.

[KnoxHarrington]

chip Kelly to be new browns coach



I've always been struck by how terrible the new Browns franchise has been since they returned to the NFL, especially since the Ravens have been good pretty much every season since they moved to Baltimore.

I don't think the head coach is the problem there.

[spoon]

Good luck.

It should be fun to see his type of offense in the AFC North.

worth a shot since everything else they have tried fell on its fucking face HARD

they just don't have the qb for that system...yet TR is a very solid back

[spoon]

I've always been struck by how terrible the new Browns franchise has been since they returned to the NFL, especially since the Ravens have been good pretty much every season since they moved to Baltimore.

I don't think the head coach is the problem there.

most have been fucking bad

[underdog]

worth a shot since everything else they have tried fell on its fucking face HARD

they just don't have the qb for that system...yet TR is a very solid back

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, I mean it. That whole division used to be built on this same type of team. With Cincy coming out and now possibly Cleveland, it's going to be fun to watch.

And they posted something on deadspin about Weeden ran the spread in college, so he might actually fit in with Kelly's program. Might be a big reason he chose Cleveland.

[Snoogans]

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic, I mean it. That whole division used to be built on this same type of team. With Cincy coming out and now possibly Cleveland, it's going to be fun to watch.

And they posted something on deadspin about Weeden ran the spread in college, so he might actually fit in with Kelly's program. Might be a big reason he chose Cleveland.

I think it will work pretty well to be honest. NFL teams are LOST when they dont have time to do shit. Thats why the No huddle works so well. Chip Kelly is essentially going to run a FASTER PACED no huddle offense through the entire game. I think its gonna be fuckin fun, but his defense will eventually fuckin HATE him.

And lets be fair, he never had a good QB at oregon and was able to win games. So he might be just what the browns need

[Snoogans]

most have been fucking bad

the funny part is the ravens were only good once they moved to baltimore. For all years before that as far as I can remember, they were fuckin terrible. Maybe its just Cleveland. Its just cursed

[KnoxHarrington]

the funny part is the ravens were only good once they moved to baltimore. For all years before that as far as I can remember, they were fuckin terrible. Maybe its just Cleveland. Its just cursed

They were really good in the pre-merger NFL, especially when Jim Brown was there. And they had a run in the mid-to-late 80's, with Bernie Kosar, when they won a few divisional championships, but kept running into the Denver Broncos who'd win the AFC and the right to go get a mud hole stomped in their ass by the 49ers. But yeah, it was mostly a wasteland before they moved to Baltimore, and since they've been back in Cleveland.

[underdog]

I think it will work pretty well to be honest. NFL teams are LOST when they dont have time to do shit. Thats why the No huddle works so well. Chip Kelly is essentially going to run a FASTER PACED no huddle offense through the entire game. I think its gonna be fuckin fun, but his defense will eventually fuckin HATE him.

And lets be fair, he never had a good QB at oregon and was able to win games. So he might be just what the browns need

There was some article this year about how the Patriots just copied his no huddle. Whenever they ran the no huddle, they were nearly unstoppable.

It's really going to be fun to watch.

[Snoogans]

There was some article this year about how the Patriots just copied his no huddle. Whenever they ran the no huddle, they were nearly unstoppable.

It's really going to be fun to watch.

i agree. The only worry I have is how an NFL defense is gonna react to an offense that scored them 30 points every game, but keeps them on the field for 42 min. In college you have 9000 guys so it isnt so bad

[spoon]

the funny part is the ravens were only good once they moved to baltimore. For all years before that as far as I can remember, they were fuckin terrible. Maybe its just Cleveland. Its just cursed

cleveland had some damn good years when I was a kid in the 80's/early 90's...the best under big marty when they had a big rivalry with Denver

[ozzie]

I moved to Cleveland in '79. I was young, and mostly an NFC fan before then, so I really knew nothing about the team or their history.

But, after just one year, I was hooked. Living next door to the starting middle linebacker didn't hurt.

To say that they "sucked" after the Jim Brown era, isn't accurate. They made the playoffs the first year I was there, and were in it more years than not up until the time Modell moved the team.

Those two championship game losses hurt like a bitch at the time. The only thing that somewhat eased the pain was that we didn't think that it would be the last time they'd get that close. They made it in back to back years, and looked like they were adding pieces to take them all the way. I still contend that with the defenses they had, those two superbowls would have been much closer that the beatdown the Broncos took. They played more like an NFC team then.

And they were back in the championship game the year before they moved, if I'm not mistaken, and again, looked to me inching closer. A lot of media picked them to win it all the following year, before the rumors started, and the news finally broke, and the team fell flat, but the talent was still there, and watching how Ozzie kept adding pieces, and racking up wins, was so goddamned hard to watch. This coulda / shoulda been US dammit!

When the NFL expanded and added Carolina and Jacksonville, they totally stacked the deck for both those new franchises. They were cherry picking off of rosters and getting top draft picks if I remember right. So much so, that BOTH made their respective conf champ game in their SECOND YEAR in the fucking league.

By the time Cleveland and Houston were granted replacement franchises a few years later, the league had learned their lesson. They got DICK, and were starting from scratch. Cleveland just hasn't drafted well. Period. There's no other excuse.

As young as their current roster is, maybe the Chip Kelly system won't be such a shock to their system, but they'd better be ready to run, and I don't mean just on game days. Chip has had Oregon doing EVERYTHING at top speed, and everything they do is timed, and drilled to reduce time, over and over until they're thinking and moving fast at all times.

Will it work at this level? Who knows, but like others have said, it can't possibly be any worse. And yes, Weeden should fit nicely, and I think even Richardson will look better in this system. If you watched Oregon much, they actually run the ball a lot, and like to snap it quick on running plays and exploit misalignments. I wasn't for the move at first, but now that it's happened, I'm kinda looking forward to seeing what he can do.

I like this a lot better than re-hashing someone who just got fired from another NFL team, and you never know what you're going to get when you go raiding from the coordinator ranks.

[KnoxHarrington]

There was some article this year about how the Patriots just copied his no huddle. Whenever they ran the no huddle, they were nearly unstoppable.

It's really going to be fun to watch.

The thing is, it'll end up like most new offenses in the NFL: unstoppable at first, until defensive coordinators around the league have some tape of it.

See also: Wildcat, the

[cougarjake13]

I've always been struck by how terrible the new Browns franchise has been since they returned to the NFL, especially since the Ravens have been good pretty much every season since they moved to Baltimore.

I don't think the head coach is the problem there.

bad drafts plus steelers and ravens dominating all this time doesn't help

[Snoogans]

i would like to add, i dont know any of these people who miss the NHL. Aside from spoon and a couple others on this board, no one i come across in my daily interactions even mentions it other than to laugh at them

[Snoogans]

i didnt say the browns sucked after jim brown. I said they sucked as far back as I can remember, which is right around 1990, but prob like 94 95 before I really started to understand everything that deep

[cougarjake13]

slowly I feel like the nfl is becoming a larger version of arena league

[spoon]

I like this a lot better than re-hashing someone who just got fired from another NFL team, and you never know what you're going to get when you go raiding from the coordinator ranks.

agreed

at least it's a shot at something new, not a retread on something seemingly out of style or a coach losing touch with a system that has lost its place in the NFL these days. sure they might find their niche on a new team with some tweaks or a guy like whisenhunt just finally having another qb worthy of playing in the nfl, but I like the risky play of something new

bigger risk, but surely a chance at a bigger reward

a great team to give it a shot too

although I'm partial to the Bengals in that division

fuck Pitt though, that much we can all agree on...rapeburgh

[spoon]

The thing is, it'll end up like most new offenses in the NFL: unstoppable at first, until defensive coordinators around the league have some tape of it.

See also: Wildcat, the

wildcat is a fucking gimmick

this is a system

greatest show on turf part two...this time on GRASS!?

[spoon]

i didnt say the browns sucked after jim brown. I said they sucked as far back as I can remember, which is right around 1990, but prob like 94 95 before I really started to understand everything that deep

i thought weed only killed your short term memory!

you have to remember Kosar and Marty ripping shit up until the playoffs

[ozzie]

They were really good in the pre-merger NFL, especially when Jim Brown was there. And they had a run in the mid-to-late 80's, with Bernie Kosar, when they won a few divisional championships, but kept running into the Denver Broncos who'd win the AFC and the right to go get a mud hole stomped in their ass by the 49ers. But yeah, it was mostly a wasteland before they moved to Baltimore, and since they've been back in Cleveland.

This is where I was getting the Jim Brown era from. And, yeah, I saw that he was also giving them a little credit in the 80's, but there were more highlights than just those, to Browns fans anyway. I doubt many outside the city noticed most years.

The funny thing was, during the AFL/NFL merger talks, moving Cleveland to the AFC was a pretty big deal. Even after the Jets won the superbowl, the thought was that the NFC would still dominate for years to come if it was all the old NFL teams. Modell and Rooney "took one for the league" by agreeing to have the Browns and Steelers move to the AFC to help even out the conferences. But the Steelers weren't exactly a powerhouse at that time, so the big deal was Cleveland.

Talk about two franchises going in opposite directions immediately after that...

[underdog]

The thing is, it'll end up like most new offenses in the NFL: unstoppable at first, until defensive coordinators around the league have some tape of it.

See also: Wildcat, the

No huddle is something defenses have trouble with, overall.

[spoon]

i would like to add, i dont know any of these people who miss the NHL. Aside from spoon and a couple others on this board, no one i come across in my daily interactions even mentions it other than to laugh at them

bullshit

keithy (devs), kevin (rangers), spoon (avs), dspy (wings), gvac (wings), nicky (isle), manny (oil), mudo (caps), mdr55 (sens/devs)....and that's just a few HERE

and let's be honest, do the people you hung around with now or in the past really into hockey ever? especially since you now are not into it yourself, why would those you know that are even bring it up to you?! my buddies into the knicks and nets sure as shit don't come to me and talk nba...why would they?

everyone I hang with on the ice and around hockey laugh at the boredom of the nba...so what!? we both like different sports and see the value in each

[Snoogans]

bullshit

keithy (devs), kevin (rangers), spoon (avs), dspy (wings), gvac (wings), nicky (isle), manny (oil), mudo (caps), mdr55 (sens/devs)....and that's just a few HERE

and let's be honest, do the people you hung around with now or in the past really into hockey ever? especially since you now are not into it yourself, why would those you know that are even bring it up to you?! my buddies into the knicks and nets sure as shit don't come to me and talk nba...why would they?

everyone I hang with on the ice and around hockey laugh at the boredom of the nba...so what!? we both like different sports and see the value in each

did you not read the part where i said you and a couple other people on here? And how quickly you forgot, ive only not been into hockey since the last lockout. When I was a kid it was my favorite sport. up until 2003 i was HUGE into hockey and im not talkin of my friends. Im talkin the people i come across at work, at stores, even online alot of places I go no one talks about it.

I wasnt taking a shot at hockey, you no need to take a shot at the NBAs "boredom". Im just sayin I really dont come across people who miss it.

and honestly, maybe kevin watches when its on or whatever, but we talk ALOT and he never mentions it. He hasnt the past few years. In our goings, he doesnt give a fuck about it being gone. And some of the people you mentioned BARELY post. I dont see who says what in the NHL thread cause I dont care enough to go in there, so Im not counting that.

[ozzie]

No huddle is something defenses have trouble with, overall.

There's "no huddle"... and then there's what Chip tries to do at Oregon, which is to snap the ball within 10 seconds of the last play. It's totally fast break, 2 minute drill stuff for the whole game, if he has his way.

A lot of "no huddle" teams still take a long time getting lined up, and go through several audibles and stuff. Chip is calling the next play sometimes before the last one has even ended. The whole offense is sprinting back to the line, trying to get the next play off before the defense even has time to recognize the formation.

When it works, it's glorious.

Then, there's a ton of very fast 3-n-outs too, so like Snoogans said, the defense is back on the field quickly, and often, so the whole team has to be in peak condition for it to work effectively. Hell, even when they score it's quick. There's really never any rest for the D all game.

[Snoogans]

There's "no huddle"... and then there's what Chip tries to do at Oregon, which is to snap the ball within 10 seconds of the last play. It's totally fast break, 2 minute drill stuff for the whole game, if he has his way.

A lot of "no huddle" teams still take a long time getting lined up, and go through several audibles and stuff. Chip is calling the next play sometimes before the last one has even ended. The whole offense is sprinting back to the line, trying to get the next play off before the defense even has time to recognize the formation.

When it works, it's glorious.

Then, there's a ton of very fast 3-n-outs too, so like Snoogans said, the defense is back on the field quickly, and often, so the whole team has to be in peak condition for it to work effectively. Hell, even when they score it's quick. There's really never any rest for the D all game.
and, like i said, in college you have like 40 guys just on your defense. You can rotate it in and out so they arent all playing 40 min a game. In the NFL you dont have enough guys to not gas your defense. I think it will work for the most part but I would not be surprised if you saw his teams regular start great for 10-12 games and just run outta gas after that.

Even on the offense, its gonna wear down guys, esp linemen

[spoon]

did you not read the part where i said you and a couple other people on here? And how quickly you forgot, ive only not been into hockey since the last lockout. When I was a kid it was my favorite sport. up until 2003 i was HUGE into hockey and im not talkin of my friends. Im talkin the people i come across at work, at stores, even online alot of places I go no one talks about it.

I wasnt taking a shot at hockey, you no need to take a shot at the NBAs "boredom". Im just sayin I really dont come across people who miss it.

and honestly, maybe kevin watches when its on or whatever, but we talk ALOT and he never mentions it. He hasnt the past few years. In our goings, he doesnt give a fuck about it being gone. And some of the people you mentioned BARELY post. I dont see who says what in the NHL thread cause I dont care enough to go in there, so Im not counting that.

i didn't forget shaun, I actually mentioned it in my fucking post (not into it now)

[spoon]

There's "no huddle"... and then there's what Chip tries to do at Oregon, which is to snap the ball within 10 seconds of the last play. It's totally fast break, 2 minute drill stuff for the whole game, if he has his way.

A lot of "no huddle" teams still take a long time getting lined up, and go through several audibles and stuff. Chip is calling the next play sometimes before the last one has even ended. The whole offense is sprinting back to the line, trying to get the next play off before the defense even has time to recognize the formation.

When it works, it's glorious.

Then, there's a ton of very fast 3-n-outs too, so like Snoogans said, the defense is back on the field quickly, and often, so the whole team has to be in peak condition for it to work effectively. Hell, even when they score it's quick. There's really never any rest for the D all game.

Norv Turner's no huddle 2 minute drill had this neat delay of game wrinkle...how that man fucking sucked.

[Snoogans]

i didn't forget shaun, I actually mentioned it in my fucking post (not into it now)


and let's be honest, do the people you hung around with now or in the past really into hockey ever? especially since you now are not into it yourself, why would those you know that are even bring it up to you?!

well the or ever part makes it seem like no one i ever was friends with liked hockey.


and again, I said I wasnt talkin about my friends. I was talkin about people in general. when Im out and about I hear people talking all the time about football, basketball, baseball, shit even i come across people talkin about soccer now way more than I ever thought I would. I dont hear anyone talkin about hockey. Im sure ESPN and all them NEVER talkin about it is a big part for that, but just commenting on what I observe

[spoon]

did you not read the part where i said you and a couple other people on here? And how quickly you forgot, ive only not been into hockey since the last lockout. When I was a kid it was my favorite sport. up until 2003 i was HUGE into hockey and im not talkin of my friends. Im talkin the people i come across at work, at stores, even online alot of places I go no one talks about it.

I wasnt taking a shot at hockey, you no need to take a shot at the NBAs "boredom". Im just sayin I really dont come across people who miss it.

and honestly, maybe kevin watches when its on or whatever, but we talk ALOT and he never mentions it. He hasnt the past few years. In our goings, he doesnt give a fuck about it being gone. And some of the people you mentioned BARELY post. I dont see who says what in the NHL thread cause I dont care enough to go in there, so Im not counting that.

you took a shot by saying you all laugh at them

and why would kev talk hockey to you? in fact, his team is the fav to win the Cup if they get on the ice, I'm quite sure he cares...and he's talked about it around the board. sports are talked about a lot more when they're in the fucking news bc of their events, not contract battles. sure it's fodder for sports radio, but when did hockey ever get a huge share of voice there even WHEN the devs/isle or rangers are playing and even playing well? It's a niche sport and always has been. your simple statement alone is rip. when the nba was in contract disputes nobody cared outside the core fans too. in fact, there is nobody I know that cared about that when it went on, so it has a lot to do with your circle and where you go online. yet you can damn well be sure you're talking to one guy right now that gives a huge fuck about the NHL...so add that to your zero

[ozzie]

Norv Turner's no huddle 2 minute drill had this neat delay of game wrinkle...how that man fucking sucked.

When Auburn first experimented with the Franklin system in '08... yeah, they wouldn't huddle, or substitute which kept the same D on the field... but then the whole team would stand up in formation, all staring at a shitload of confusing signals and signs on the sideline for 20 or 30 seconds. And YES, there was more than one delay of game while running this "hurry up" offense.

It was soon nicknamed by fans as the "meerkat" offense, and it was so NOT effective, that it didn't even last a whole season. Franklin was packing his shit mid season, and Tubs was fired at the end.

http://www.meerkats.net/photos%20misc%20&%20close/groupstandingonhomemeerkat.org.jpg

[spoon]

well the or ever part makes it seem like no one i ever was friends with liked hockey.


and again, I said I wasnt talkin about my friends. I was talkin about people in general. when Im out and about I hear people talking all the time about football, basketball, baseball, shit even i come across people talkin about soccer now way more than I ever thought I would. I dont hear anyone talkin about hockey. Im sure ESPN and all them NEVER talkin about it is a big part for that, but just commenting on what I observe

it's simple, the nhl is not on so it's not in the news much outside of the bullshit they are fighting over

and you ever notice when you buy a car, say a Acura TSX, you sure as shit notice them a whole lot more out there!? that's the same shit that can help you get why you notice soccer more. yet the mere fact that espn is shoving it down our throats can't hurt get more untraditional fans out there, and expand the base. another reason I'm actually glad espn doesn't have the NHL. I don't want their influence on the game in any way, as they can bastardize anything. TALK TEBOW!

[Snoogans]

you took a shot by saying you all laugh at them

and why would kev talk hockey to you? in fact, his team is the fav to win the Cup if they get on the ice, I'm quite sure he cares...and he's talked about it around the board. sports are talked about a lot more when they're in the fucking news bc of their events, not contract battles. sure it's fodder for sports radio, but when did hockey ever get a huge share of voice there even WHEN the devs/isle or rangers are playing and even playing well? It's a niche sport and always has been. your simple statement alone is rip. when the nba was in contract disputes nobody cared outside the core fans too. in fact, there is nobody I know that cared about that when it went on, so it has a lot to do with your circle and where you go online. yet you can damn well be sure you're talking to one guy right now that gives a huge fuck about the NHL...so add that to your zero

no, i didnt say that. You should go back and read it. I said the only time i hear people mention it is to laugh at it. I didnt say I laugh at it.

and i didnt say kevin didnt talk about it. I talk about shit on here i dont really follow, jsut cause conversation is going on. It doesnt make kevin bummed, from what I can tell, that there is no hockey on. He might check it out if it was on, but he doesnt care it isnt.

Like right now. I dont really care about baseball. It bores me now. I comment on what the sox do and root for them if they are on cause they are my team but if they didnt play i wouldnt miss it. i dont really care. Thats how kevin is with the rangers. From what I gather.

And again, I was more askign where the people are cause I dont see them.

But i asked Kevin just now on AIM and this is what he said:
shaun mcclarty 11:57 pm
ok i have a question for you
this is important

Armand Berdynaj 11:57 pm
ok

shaun mcclarty 11:57 pm
honestly
do you really care about what happens with the rangers right now?

Armand Berdynaj 11:58 pm
what is your def of care

shaun mcclarty 11:58 pm
do you miss hockey

Armand Berdynaj 11:58 pm
i have not fucking watched a live game in maybe 2 3 years

shaun mcclarty 11:59 pm
so you dont even care
that its not being played

Armand Berdynaj 11:59 pm
no,

shaun mcclarty 12:00 am
Can I post this short part of the convo?
on the board

Armand Berdynaj 12:00 am
would i cheer for the rangers if they make a run? yea, but would If they lose id turn it off and say eh
not get 25% as angry as Giants Knicks

[Snoogans]

it's simple, the nhl is not on so it's not in the news much outside of the bullshit they are fighting over

and you ever notice when you buy a car, say a Acura TSX, you sure as shit notice them a whole lot more out there!? that's the same shit that can help you get why you notice soccer more. yet the mere fact that espn is shoving it down our throats can't hurt get more untraditional fans out there, and expand the base. another reason I'm actually glad espn doesn't have the NHL. I don't want their influence on the game in any way, as they can bastardize anything. TALK TEBOW!

this is a fair point, however, to a point. I know what you are sayin, im not out lookin for hockey talk, so thats prob why I dont notice. And yea, you play hockey, so im sure you come across alot of people who care.

But when im in 7-11 say, ill here people talk about knicks (esp lately) or basketball, NFL shit, just when Im walkin around. I dont hear that with hockey. Maybe I miss some cause im not lookin, but im not lookin for baseball talk and i still hear people talk about that

[spoon]

this is a fair point, however, to a point. I know what you are sayin, im not out lookin for hockey talk, so thats prob why I dont notice. And yea, you play hockey, so im sure you come across alot of people who care.

But when im in 7-11 say, ill here people talk about knicks (esp lately) or basketball, NFL shit, just when Im walkin around. I dont hear that with hockey. Maybe I miss some cause im not lookin, but im not lookin for baseball talk and i still hear people talk about that

well, all those sports are active right now...as even the MLB is in the news a lot for positive things with the trades, winter meetings, hall of fame votes and of course the knicks are talked about as they are coming out of a shit storm of suck and one of the NBA's hottest teams overall in the leagues start (even if off of late). espn dominates the sports landscape overall, and guess what they cover...yah, all the above. if the nhl season starts and the rangers have half the start the knicks did, you'd hear plenty. yet again, it's still a niche sport and you're comparing apples to oranges...especially since the apple isn't even going right now and even the core fans are pissed off.

[spoon]

no, i didnt say that. You should go back and read it. I said the only time i hear people mention it is to laugh at it. I didnt say I laugh at it.

and i didnt say kevin didnt talk about it. I talk about shit on here i dont really follow, jsut cause conversation is going on. It doesnt make kevin bummed, from what I can tell, that there is no hockey on. He might check it out if it was on, but he doesnt care it isnt.

Like right now. I dont really care about baseball. It bores me now. I comment on what the sox do and root for them if they are on cause they are my team but if they didnt play i wouldnt miss it. i dont really care. Thats how kevin is with the rangers. From what I gather.

And again, I was more askign where the people are cause I dont see them.

But i asked Kevin just now on AIM and this is what he said:
shaun mcclarty 11:57 pm
ok i have a question for you
this is important

Armand Berdynaj 11:57 pm
ok

shaun mcclarty 11:57 pm
honestly
do you really care about what happens with the rangers right now?

Armand Berdynaj 11:58 pm
what is your def of care

shaun mcclarty 11:58 pm
do you miss hockey

Armand Berdynaj 11:58 pm
i have not fucking watched a live game in maybe 2 3 years

shaun mcclarty 11:59 pm
so you dont even care
that its not being played

Armand Berdynaj 11:59 pm
no,

shaun mcclarty 12:00 am
Can I post this short part of the convo?
on the board

Armand Berdynaj 12:00 am
would i cheer for the rangers if they make a run? yea, but would If they lose id turn it off and say eh
not get 25% as angry as Giants Knicks

glad you posted that then

why does he even post about hockey at all, much less claim being a fan of the rangers?

I bet even you watched more hockey than him over that fucking span and yet won't jump back on the dev parade if they won the cup

to me, this kind of sums up kev more than hockey love out there

[Snoogans]

well, all those sports are active right now...as even the MLB is in the news a lot for positive things with the trades, winter meetings, hall of fame votes and of course the knicks are talked about as they are coming out of a shit storm of suck and one of the NBA's hottest teams overall in the leagues start (even if off of late). espn dominates the sports landscape overall, and guess what they cover...yah, all the above. if the nhl season starts and the rangers have half the start the knicks did, you'd hear plenty. yet again, it's still a niche sport and you're comparing apples to oranges...especially since the apple isn't even going right now and even the core fans are pissed off.

this is what i meant by hearing people laugh at it. I didnt mean the sport. I meant the NHL and how its handled. Its a fuckin JOKE that they arent playing hockey right now.

Ill be the first to admit, end of last season and playoffs i would hear ALOT about hockey. Part of the reason why i asked where the people are. Cause i heard a ton and they were really getting momentum and now I dont hear anyone caring about it now and alot of them are the same people i would run across normally in my days. This kinda proves exactly my point

[Snoogans]

glad you posted that then

why does he even post about hockey at all, much less claim being a fan of the rangers?

I bet even you watched more hockey than him over that fucking span and yet won't jump back on the dev parade if they won the cup

to me, this kind of sums up kev more than hockey love out there

no, i wouldnt really give a shit at all if the devils won the cup. I dont even follow it. Even last year, my parents were the only reason I knew what was going on, i didnt watch a single second of it. Im not sayin this maliciously, just that its how it was.

But with the red sox as of right now, im kinda how kevin is. Ill be happy if they win, but im not gonna really care if they dont. Maybe its cause they won a couple times, its not as fun, its a huge part because baseball is boring and needs to get roids back in the game, and also I know the organization I root for is a complete fuckin joke.

But I knew that about the knicks and never stopped caring, thats why i know its no thte sox, its baseball as a whole

[Snoogans]

glad you posted that then

why does he even post about hockey at all, much less claim being a fan of the rangers?

I bet even you watched more hockey than him over that fucking span and yet won't jump back on the dev parade if they won the cup

to me, this kind of sums up kev more than hockey love out there

maybe just to talk about something? I know you dont really like soccer but when we are all on here talkin about it you still post and conversate with us. Maybe its kinda like that

[spoon]

this is what i meant by hearing people laugh at it. I didnt mean the sport. I meant the NHL and how its handled. Its a fuckin JOKE that they arent playing hockey right now.

Ill be the first to admit, end of last season and playoffs i would hear ALOT about hockey. Part of the reason why i asked where the people are. Cause i heard a ton and they were really getting momentum and now I dont hear anyone caring about it now and alot of them are the same people i would run across normally in my days. This kinda proves exactly my point

well that's just it to me, people are just fucking sick of contract disputes in pro sports that, let's be honest, happen WAY TOO FUCKING OFTEN of late. NFL, NBA, MLB and of course the easily laughable handling of the NHL throughout the Bettman era. the public at large is suffering in terms of finances and jobs so these things go over way worse in times like these. add to it that hockey is the lower tier sport of all those mentioned above overall, and people can't see how they can afford to go this route into the preseason, much less fucking JANUARY

so if that's what you meant, it makes more sense

yet the players sure as shit needed to stand up to the fucking greedy cunt owners this time...so that part I don't fault them at all. this one is completely owner greed driven to me.

[spoon]

maybe just to talk about something? I know you dont really like soccer but when we are all on here talkin about it you still post and conversate with us. Maybe its kinda like that

yet I sure as hell don't stay up to date on the records, team, players and shit like that of any team, much less one I claim to be my team

i would never celebrate or jump on to a winning team after not watching them for years like that

it's different to discuss a sport generally versus the effect of Rick Nash on your power play or in the playoffs this season

me thinks he's full of shit not seeing a game in ~3 years

but who knows/cares?

i turly don't

[Snoogans]

well that's just it to me, people are just fucking sick of contract disputes in pro sports that, let's be honest, happen WAY TOO FUCKING OFTEN of late. NFL, NBA, MLB and of course the easily laughable handling of the NHL throughout the Bettman era. the public at large is suffering in terms of finances and jobs so these things go over way worse in times like these. add to it that hockey is the lower tier sport of all those mentioned above overall, and people can't see how they can afford to go this route into the preseason, much less fucking JANUARY

so if that's what you meant, it makes more sense

yet the players sure as shit needed to stand up to the fucking greedy cunt owners this time...so that part I don't fault them at all. this one is completely owner greed driven to me.

i get what your sayin. this is kinda an add on.

When football was looming toward the lockout, no one would shut up about it. Now granted, its football, the most popular thing in the entire fuckin country (EVERYONE LOVED IT AND NOW THEY ARE SAYIN I NEVER LIKED IT) so you are gonna hear about it.

But same with the NBA. Id be out and about and people were wondering if it would happen, or when it was gonna end. I guess most of that is probably sports media actually talkin about it.

But i swear to god when I actually found out hockey was officially locked out, it was like 6 days after they actually LOCKED them out. Thats how little I heard about hockey

[Snoogans]

yet I sure as hell don't stay up to date on the records, team, players and shit like that of any team, much less one I claim to be my team

i would never celebrate or jump on to a winning team after not watching them for years like that

it's different to discuss a sport generally versus the effect of Rick Nash on your power play or in the playoffs this season

me thinks he's full of shit not seeing a game in ~3 years

but who knows/cares?

i turly don't
i cant speak to it cause i have no idea. Im so out and disinterested I dont even go into the NHL thread cause all I would be able to do is make fun of shit and I dont want to disrespect the people in there who really care by doing nothing but that.

For the most part, I dont go much into the MLB thread anymore. I mainly just laugh at baseball now. Its also a fuckin joke, but by its own doing and it SHOULD be laughed at

[spoon]

i get what your sayin. this is kinda an add on.

When football was looming toward the lockout, no one would shut up about it. Now granted, its football, the most popular thing in the entire fuckin country (EVERYONE LOVED IT AND NOW THEY ARE SAYIN I NEVER LIKED IT) so you are gonna hear about it.

But same with the NBA. Id be out and about and people were wondering if it would happen, or when it was gonna end. I guess most of that is probably sports media actually talkin about it.

But i swear to god when I actually found out hockey was officially locked out, it was like 6 days after they actually LOCKED them out. Thats how little I heard about hockey

and how often do you get hockey news before that?

not often

it's just not covered by the main outlets unless NBC sports continues as it did once it became a true outlet in 01/2012...but it's still a niche sport

but it has plenty of popularity to keep it going strong and active for me...so much that I was able to watch the cup won by Boston two years back live on the fucking beach with a whole crew of fans in Hawaii...not sure that happens even a few years back (coverage and caring by locals) they all were into it, but that's an extreme one of as a pseudo point in the end...but it has it's merits overall in this convo

[spoon]

i cant speak to it cause i have no idea. Im so out and disinterested I dont even go into the NHL thread cause all I would be able to do is make fun of shit and I dont want to disrespect the people in there who really care by doing nothing but that.

For the most part, I dont go much into the MLB thread anymore. I mainly just laugh at baseball now. Its also a fuckin joke, but by its own doing and it SHOULD be laughed at

come on, you know you want to MOE it up!

DMM used to do that everywhere sports and it was maddening

yet poking fun and busting balls is not a bad thing

I hardly venture into the nba, soccer or wrestling threads, but every once in a while I'll drop in if there is something in the news of interest like the Nets to Brook or some fag on this site like Fallon way too much into man soap operas...I mean WWE shit. It's just busting balls though, unlike Moe just being namblamoe

[Snoogans]

come on, you know you want to MOE it up!

DMM used to do that everywhere sports and it was maddening

yet poking fun and busting balls is not a bad thing

I hardly venture into the nba, soccer or wrestling threads, but every once in a while I'll drop in if there is something in the news of interest like the Nets to Brook or some fag on this site like Fallon way too much into man soap operas...I mean WWE shit. It's just busting balls though, unlike Moe just being namblamoe

HA, go in every 3 days and say "hockey is for faggots"

then wonder why everyonhe was so mean

[spoon]

HA, go in every 3 days and say "hockey is for faggots"

then wonder why everyonhe was so mean

well you know I'll defend the game at any turn

it may not be your thing, so be it, but attacks warrant responses

I've played pretty much every sport out there, soccer, and basketball included, and I've never played one that combined so much skill, grit, strength, coordination and will than ice hockey. I was very good at soccer when young too, solid with bball defensively mostly, but they just bored me even when running for miles in soccer. indoor was much better in middle school with that fucking felt ball bc the walls were "in play" and they kept them tight making soccer a game hybrid like a racquetball twist. I did enjoy it more than, but that's not really soccer, more a twisted version for fun.

[Snoogans]

well you know I'll defend the game at any turn

it may not be your thing, so be it, but attacks warrant responses

I've played pretty much every sport out there, soccer, and basketball included, and I've never played one that combined so much skill, grit, strength, coordination and will than ice hockey. I was very good at soccer when young too, solid with bball defensively mostly, but they just bored me even when running for miles in soccer. indoor was much better in middle school with that fucking felt ball bc the walls were "in play" and they kept them tight making soccer a game hybrid like a racquetball twist. I did enjoy it more than, but that's not really soccer, more a twisted version for fun.

again, i didnt insult the game. Id slap on my blades and play now if i could. More the league i was insulting and its management

[hanso]

chip Kelly to be new browns coach

was gonna ask if he or lovie smith best fit for Bills..too late for that

[spoon]

was gonna ask if he or lovie smith best fit for Bills..too late for that

hate lovie smith as a coach overall

[hanso]

hate lovie smith as a coach overall

Yeah, but they say he is good with defense which the Bills just upgraded.

[spoon]

Yeah, but they say he is good with defense which the Bills just upgraded.

he's a 4-3 guy

so I HOPE this means he's out for SD bc they are completely not set up that way

[hanso]

he's a 4-3 guy

so I HOPE this means he's out for SD bc they are completely not set up that way

didnt know he was looking at SD
spoon what about Mike Holmgren for SD?

[NickyL0885]

I really question at times if it was worth liking the opposite teams of my Dad out of spite. Islanders give me some hope, as do the Mets. But the Jets.......I don't know. We need a coach, QB, RB, WRs, OLs, LBs.

[Snoogans]

I really question at times if it was worth liking the opposite teams of my Dad out of spite. Islanders give me some hope, as do the Mets. But the Jets.......I don't know. We need a coach, QB, RB, WRs, OLs, LBs.

really?

[NickyL0885]

really?

Yeah. Isles will be moving to a new arena, so I expect them to spend money. They have lots of young talent in the system to go alone with guys like Tavares, Moulson, Okposo, Hamonic, Grabner, and Neilsen.

The Mets are the same, in that they have lots of young talent. The owners blow, but that's not changing. At least they kept Wright.

[cougarjake13]

Yeah. Isles will be moving to a new arena, so I expect them to spend money. They have lots of young talent in the system to go alone with guys like Tavares, Moulson, Okposo, Hamonic, Grabner, and Neilsen.

The Mets are the same, in that they have lots of young talent. The owners blow, but that's not changing. At least they kept Wright.


also mets and isles have won titles in ur lifetime

not so for the jets unless ur old enough to remember 1969

[spoon]

Dont forget the two kids on team canada in russia right now. Both sides of tbe puck too.

[NickyL0885]

also mets and isles have won titles in ur lifetime

not so for the jets unless ur old enough to remember 1969

Only 27. I was born in 1985, so I missed the Isles titles and was still a baby for the Mets 2nd title.

[ozzie]

chip Kelly to be new browns coach

Wait... so this is NOT a done deal?

[spoon]

Nah, norv is in the mix.

[hanso]

was gonna ask if he or lovie smith best fit for Bills..too late for that

This Q valid then

[newport king]

Cincinnati +4.5
GB -7.5
I think that GB/Minny line is strange. I think they want you to take Minn with the pts. Therefore im going GB

[cougarjake13]

Wait... so this is NOT a done deal?




not that ive seen

[KnoxHarrington]

How are the Texans not completely and totally blowing the Bengals out right now?

I mean, here is Dalton's line at the half: 4/10, 3 yards. That's right, 3 yards.

[cougarjake13]

How are the Texans not completely and totally blowing the Bengals out right now?

I mean, here is Dalton's line at the half: 4/10, 3 yards. That's right, 3 yards.



bengals d holding them to 3 fg's thats why and a dumb pass by schaub that became a pick six

[newport king]

Andy Dalton fuckin stinks

[cougarjake13]

Andy Dalton fuckin stinks


what else wuld u expect from a ginger

[underdog]

Damn, Ponder won't play for the Vikings.

[cougarjake13]

epo you can light ur your cigar for this week

[ozzie]

chip Kelly to be new browns coach

Wait... so this is NOT a done deal?

not that ive seen

:wacko:

[razorboy]

This game is a dog, but that Leon Hall int return was pretty awesome.

[razorboy]

Damn, Ponder won't play for the Vikings.

Webb and Ponder are both awful so it isn't like it's a huge downgrade.

[razorboy]

Actually, considering how dreadful Green Bay is against the run it might not be a bad thing having Webb back there.

[KnoxHarrington]

Holy shit, this first game has been garbage.

The Texans should be up by 4 touchdowns. But the Bengals just can't cash in on all the chances the Texans keep handing them.

[cougarjake13]

Webb and Ponder are both awful so it isn't like it's a huge downgrade.


true but webb hasnt played a snap all year


at least ponder is game readyhowever muc tht matters

[newport king]

Cincy gets a stop here they can win this dogshit game.

[newport king]

Way to run a 7yd route on 4th and 11

[KnoxHarrington]

Cincy gets a stop here they can win this dogshit game.

I would not be pleased with myself if I were on the Texans now. As shitty as the Bengals' offense was, they had a chance to win it late.

That game should have been a total blowout.

[newport king]

That game was fucking putrid. Need GB at -8 to recoup.

[cougarjake13]

Way to run a 7yd route on 4th and 11



i never understand why qb's even throw that ball

rarely do they ever make the needed yardage unless ur ray rice and that was a fluke

[cougarjake13]

I would not be pleased with myself if I were on the Texans now. As shitty as the Bengals' offense was, they had a chance to win it late.

That game should have been a total blowout.



itll be groundhog day theyll beat the bengals and get raped by new england next week

[epo]

epo you can light ur your cigar for this week

Nothing is over until 28 is out of the game.

[cougarjake13]

Nothing is over until 28 is out of the game.



tis true

[newport king]

Webb is as accurate as Dalton

[Kevin]

Oh Nice

Spoon got a show on NBC

[spoon]

Oh Nice

Spoon got a show on NBC

news to me

[spoon]

rice with butter hands today

otherwise this game is completely wrapped up by now

[spoon]

SD is almost never in the news with GM or HC targets/candidates unless tacked on to someone else's interviews/interest. it just seems they never have their front office shit together, even with Wolf in to help. i guess I'm being a little harsh on this here, as time will tell. still, I do wish they let pagano coach out the last quarter of the year to see his style and poise win or lose, versus just losing away with fucking dead weight Norval (since he got here)

[keithy_19]

I have nothing against the Ravens but their crowd annoys the hell out of me.

[cougarjake13]

I have nothing against the Ravens but their crowd annoys the hell out of me.


they're all wannabe soccer fans

[KnoxHarrington]

This is a personal appeal to Robert Griffin III. I love watching you. I think you have the potential to be one of the great quarterbacks in the league.

For the love of God, please stop letting opposing teams hit you so much. Learn to slide, please.