2012-2013 NBA Season Nets Suck Thread

[Snoogans]

22 point lead and you lose by 11. AWESOME. BROOKLYN RUSTED SHIT


Knicks off to a 3-0 start after beating miami by 20, philly by 16 and then philly by 22. I dont wanna get ahead of myself, because they have some old dudes. But they have ALOT of them. This team has a ton of dept. Everyone is playin like 15-30 min. They are sharing the ball and gettin good shot s and hopefully someone is ready to tonya harding Amare

[Kevin]

Sixers Blog Highlights!

"I agree with Brandon, if I can’t find the Philly broadcast the Knicks broadcast team is the one I would prefer out of anyone in the league"

"melo
Who is going to guard this guy?"

"So what do y’all think—is Carmelo going to entirely annihilate Thad Young tonight, or is he only going to abuse him?"

"Knicks are continuing their seemingly outlandish 3pt shooting."

"Lesson from yesterday and today
Don’t make contact with Melo."

"Who the hell is this Priggione guy"

"Knicks are hitting so many everythings."

"brewer for 3? ur kidding me rigth?"

"since when did Ronnie Brewer become the best 3 point shooter in the leauge?"

"How the hell did the Sixers even manage to score 100 in the preseason?"

"Ugh. I'm trying to switch back and forth between the two games but maybe I should just stick with the birds at this point."

"HOW IS IT STILL THE THIRD QUARTER"

"Why am i even bothering to switch back to the sixers game anymore?"

[Kevin]

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[cougarjake13]

hahaha love it

[Snoogans]

lakers just fired Mike Brown

[A.J.]

How long will it be before Phil comes back? The Lakers have the requisite number of superstar players for Phil's needs.

[Snoogans]

How long will it be before Phil comes back? The Lakers have the requisite number of superstar players for Phil's needs.

they are thinking about interviewing mike dantoni


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[A.J.]

they are thinking about interviewing mike dantoni


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:clap:

[cougarjake13]

I hope they sign dantoni

that wuld be awesome

[KnoxHarrington]

Seriously, who gives a fuck about a 1-4 start in the NBA. As long as you get in the playoffs -- and you really have to suck to not -- you're fine.

The Lakers' overreaction to this start is going to hurt them far worse than their record.

[cougarjake13]

they just brought in 2 top guys


gonna take time to mesh everyone


hell even the heat didnt fire spolestra that first year with lebron when they started off bad

[hanso]

I read the score wrong when T-wolves beat them few games back.

[Kevin]

4-0 Muuuuuuuuutttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaafuuuuuuu uuuuccckkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[cougarjake13]

won't last forever

[Snoogans]

won't last forever

yea, im pretty sure 4-0 will only last til the next game. Of course it wont last forever, its basketball. Damn let us enjoy some quality basketball for once

[cougarjake13]

no I know that I was referring to when amare comes back and fucks up everything

[Snoogans]

no I know that I was referring to when amare comes back and fucks up everything

i dont know. Kidd and Camby might keep his ass in line. Toughen him up a bit. Either that or sheed will choke him

[cougarjake13]

lets hope so

[MHasegawa]

RAAAAAAAAAAAASHEEEEEEEEEEEED WALLACE!
http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/charlie_murphy2012-med-wide.jpg

[Snoogans]

im convinced the way to go is to just sign 20 old guys to go with your few good young players

injuries and wearing down isnt a concern when you can just play 10 guys 8 min a game. This might be the most brilliant thing ever.


Except James Dolan did it. So it cant work

[cougarjake13]

did he or did he just allow the gm to make moves

[Snoogans]

did he or did he just allow the gm to make moves

the GM is Glen Grunwald. He did whatever dolan says. Even Woodson.

Woodsons agent was the dude who represented larry brown when he fucked the knicks so dolan told him to get new agents and he fired that dude and got a new one

[WRESTLINGFAN]

ESPN Is saying that Jackson is frontrunner to come back to coach LA but travel restrictions are being talked about

[cougarjake13]

ahh that shit again ?

[razorboy]

It's being reported that Mike D'Antoni has signed a four year deal to coach the Lakers. If true, it's hilarious because I can't imagine it not being an unmitigated disaster. D'Antoni has no concept of how to use a true center in his system and Kobe doesn't have the legs to run the court in his offense. I anxiously await a first round playoff sweep of the Lakers and the following meltdown in LA.

[cougarjake13]

did Phil jax not want the gig ?

I can't imagine why they'd willingly pick dantoni over jax

[A.J.]

It's being reported that Mike D'Antoni has signed a four year deal to coach the Lakers. If true, it's hilarious because I can't imagine it not being an unmitigated disaster. D'Antoni has no concept of how to use a true center in his system and Kobe doesn't have the legs to run the court in his offense. I anxiously await a first round playoff sweep of the Lakers and the following meltdown in LA.

My reaction to this news?

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[MHasegawa]

My reaction to this news?

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And here's mine, and pretty much every Knick fan alive.

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[hanso]

did Phil jax not want the gig ?

I can't imagine why they'd willingly pick dantoni over jax

They could of had a home and an away coach.

[Kevin]

did Phil jax not want the gig ?

I can't imagine why they'd willingly pick dantoni over jax

They said he wanted the job but they picked the dope

[cougarjake13]

They said he wanted the job but they picked the dope


hope it works out for them

[Snoogans]

hope it works out for them

why? fuck the lakers

[cougarjake13]

why? fuck the lakers

I meant it sarcastically but it didnt come across that way

[Kevin]

5-0...

5 DOUBLE DIGIT WINS IN A ROW.


BITCHEEEEES!

Yes CJ... This won't last forever

Only til Thurs night when its either 5-1 or 6-0

[cougarjake13]

I didn't mean the actual record


just the play and leading the division


as a knicks fan I'm happy they're playing well but until it happens I just can't see them going far in playoffs

[Kevin]

I didn't mean the actual record


just the play and leading the division


as a knicks fan I'm happy they're playing well but until it happens I just can't see them going far in playoffs

Again...

Like Snoogs said...

Who is talking about playoffs?

We are just enjoying the ride as it goes.

[cougarjake13]

what can I say


I'm an eternal pessimist

[Snoogans]

six

and

zero



KNICKS

[Kevin]

six

and

zero



KNICKS

This won't last snoogs.

Tomorrow will be a new game!

[hanso]

This won't last snoogs.

Tomorrow will be a new game!

Vs the Griz who are also 6-0

[Kevin]

Vs the Griz who are also 6-0

Knicks are the only undefeated team in the league....

[hanso]

did Phil jax not want the gig ?

I can't imagine why they'd willingly pick dantoni over jax

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[hanso]

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[MHasegawa]

looked very awkward, was he injured?

[Snoogans]

looked very awkward, was he injured?

they probably carried him off the court like a dead horse only to have him run back out and play 10 seconds later again.


actress

[hanso]

looked very awkward, was he injured?

Full court shows that even more too bad video didn't have it.

[razorboy]

Tim Duncan and Tony Parker don't much care for Joey Crawford. (http://deadspin.com/5964824/tim-duncan-and-tony-parker-had-some-fun-at-the-expense-of-old-nemesis-joey-crawford-on-halloween)


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[hanso]

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Great comeback for statement Kobe made.



Also
Look at the Pelican fly!

[hanso]

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It's Eddie House cue Ac Dc big balls

[newport king]

Knicks are just hurting feelings this year

[cougarjake13]

Knicks are just hurting feelings this year



whose

[newport king]

whose



every team they play in the reg season. and ours come playoff time

[cougarjake13]

every team they play in the reg season. and ours come playoff time



ahh yes


would suck indeed

[underdog]

Do NYK fans still miss Lin?

[cougarjake13]

I wouldn't think so

[hanso]

Mello no fan of KG .. heard some thing after this last game NY v BOS

[cougarjake13]

kg has been a dick since Marbury

[hanso]

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[spoon]

ok, i'm not lost, just have a question

what exactly went down with melo and garnett?

kept hearing bits and pieces over the last few days and never left it on being not my sport, but I guess it got ugly/stupid

just wondered what he said?

[cougarjake13]

ok, i'm not lost, just have a question

what exactly went down with melo and garnett?

kept hearing bits and pieces over the last few days and never left it on being not my sport, but I guess it got ugly/stupid

just wondered what he said?



alledgely garnett told melo that melos wifes pussy tasted like honey nut cherrios

[hanso]

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[spoon]

So he said it taste awful, got it! Hilarious overreaction!

[razorboy]

Melogate: James Dolan is a creepy motherfucker. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/knicks-owner-james-dolan-had-employees-record-carmelo-175052823--nba.html)

[hanso]

Birdman lands with Heat.

[hanso]

Melogate: James Dolan is a creepy motherfucker. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/knicks-owner-james-dolan-had-employees-record-carmelo-175052823--nba.html)

Thought this was diva like move

[A.J.]

Rondo done for the year with a torn ACL.

Season over.

[hanso]

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Check out the call at the end

[razorboy]

I gave it five painful minutes. The dunk contest is once again unwatchable.

[Kevin]

I gave it five painful minutes. The dunk contest is once again unwatchable.

TERRIBLE!

[razorboy]

I love Barkley so much. He was rolling until Stern called a TNT producer and told them to shut it down.

[Snoogans]

I love Barkley so much. He was rolling until Stern called a TNT producer and told them to shut it down.

i wonder what he has against Kevin hart

[cougarjake13]

I love Barkley so much. He was rolling until Stern called a TNT producer and told them to shut it down.


what happened ?

wasn't watching

[razorboy]

what happened ?

wasn't watching

Throughout the whole contest he was outspoken about how awful it was. Then during the wrap up he went rapid fire with his derision saying how the competition should be cancelled if this is the product the league is going to present and the only highlights were for the participants because the majority of them were unrecognizable to the public other than this event. Someone said "Chuck, the dunk contest is cyclical" and he responded "yeah, well I'm sick of it". He started on another rant and either his mic was cut or someone in his headphones told him to drop it immediately because he cut off mid sentence and just sat silently for the rest of the broadcast.

[cougarjake13]

Jerry buss died from cancer this morn

[cougarjake13]

Throughout the whole contest he was outspoken about how awful it was. Then during the wrap up he went rapid fire with his derision saying how the competition should be cancelled if this is the product the league is going to present and the only highlights were for the participants because the majority of them were unrecognizable to the public other than this event. Someone said "Chuck, the dunk contest is cyclical" and he responded "yeah, well I'm sick of it". He started on another rant and either his mic was cut or someone in his headphones told him to drop it immediately because he cut off mid sentence and just sat silently for the rest of the broadcast.


ah so he got cm punked

[Snoogans]

ah so he got cm punked

i dont think it was NBA or stern. I think it was TNT and his bosses because TNT paid alot of money to carry all star weekend and they dont want people tuning out in the future.

the thing is, if anyone watched it at a bar or something, it was TERRIBLE. But if you watched it with the sound on, listening to the guys announcing it, etc. It was AWESOME. Part of the reason Inside the NBA is such a good show is the leeway they are given to say what they want. And even with Barkley, they let him go for a long time before they finally told him to knock it off.

As long as those guys are doing the announcing, i will tune in no matter how lame the contests are. In fact, the lamer, the better. They spent a good 2 hours last night just ripping on Kevin Hart for being so small. one of the dudes dunked jumpin over a kid and barkley was like it woulda been slightly impressive if they had kevin hart stand on the kids shoulders so it was 5 feet tall total.

[underdog]

i dont think it was NBA or stern. I think it was TNT and his bosses because TNT paid alot of money to carry all star weekend and they dont want people tuning out in the future.

the thing is, if anyone watched it at a bar or something, it was TERRIBLE. But if you watched it with the sound on, listening to the guys announcing it, etc. It was AWESOME. Part of the reason Inside the NBA is such a good show is the leeway they are given to say what they want. And even with Barkley, they let him go for a long time before they finally told him to knock it off.

As long as those guys are doing the announcing, i will tune in no matter how lame the contests are. In fact, the lamer, the better. They spent a good 2 hours last night just ripping on Kevin Hart for being so small. one of the dudes dunked jumpin over a kid and barkley was like it woulda been slightly impressive if they had kevin hart stand on the kids shoulders so it was 5 feet tall total.

I watched it in a bar with no sound and it was awesome.

My only problem is the scoring. They can't give everything a fucking 50. If they want to make it more interesting, they need to make actual scoring.

[Snoogans]

I watched it in a bar with no sound and it was awesome.

My only problem is the scoring. They can't give everything a fucking 50. If they want to make it more interesting, they need to make actual scoring.

i thought the dunks were pretty shitty, to be honest. And missing 900 of them didnt help

i was also mad about judges. HOW YOU GONNA GIVE THE FIRST DUNK A 50? Give it a 45 and if no dunks are better, then dont give out any 50s. These guys are just shills

[underdog]

i thought the dunks were pretty shitty, to be honest. And missing 900 of them didnt help

i was also mad about judges. HOW YOU GONNA GIVE THE FIRST DUNK A 50? Give it a 45 and if no dunks are better, then dont give out any 50s. These guys are just shills

They were pretty shitty. A couple stood out, and yeah, the misses made it so much worse. But it was fun to watch in a bar. I feel like I would have been bored out of my mind if I watched it alone at home.

But seriously, knock it off with the 50s. Only amazing dunks should get 50s, not every dunk.

[newport king]

I read somewhere with all the misses they shot like 30% from the field. In a slam dunk contest.

[Snoogans]

They were pretty shitty. A couple stood out, and yeah, the misses made it so much worse. But it was fun to watch in a bar. I feel like I would have been bored out of my mind if I watched it alone at home.

But seriously, knock it off with the 50s. Only amazing dunks should get 50s, not every dunk.

and then give a 45 to the guy who basically dunked from the foul line with 2 hands

[Kevin]

Sad that Jerry Buss last move was one of the worst moves in the history of sports..

[underdog]

and then give a 45 to the guy who basically dunked from the foul line with 2 hands

No one likes the long jump dunk anymore, even though most of them are more impressive than Jordan's.

[Snoogans]

No one likes the long jump dunk anymore, even though most of them are more impressive than Jordan's.

2 hands though. Thats what make it impressive

[A.J.]

Sad that Jerry Buss last move was one of the worst moves in the history of sports..

Giving control of the team to his inept son?

[hanso]

Called Howard going there and him not fitting.. got flack on both calls

[hanso]

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[cougarjake13]

just like they drew it up in practice

[hanso]

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Birdman

[Snoogans]

do you purposely wait like 4 days before you post things?

[cougarjake13]

do you purposely wait like 4 days before you post things?


that's just the turnaround time for it to get to him in the trailer parks of miami

[razorboy]

STAT missing significant time with a knee injury? Shocking. (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/03/09/knicks-injuries.ap/)

If I were him I'd get angry and punch some glass.

[Kevin]

STAT missing significant time with a knee injury? Shocking. (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/03/09/knicks-injuries.ap/)

If I were him I'd get angry and punch some glass.

I called it before his 1st game back..

Its like ground hog day with him. He gets hurt, comes back,gets into it and get hurt again..

[hanso]

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Choke artist (end of video)

[Snoogans]

I called it before his 1st game back..

Its like ground hog day with him. He gets hurt, comes back,gets into it and get hurt again..

yea what a limb that was to go out on, callin that a guy with an uninsured contract was a risk to get hurt

[cougarjake13]

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Choke artist (end of video)



do you use a 3 day old website ?

[hanso]

Go fuck yourself's 3-4 days from now.

Internet time keepers

[underdog]

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[underdog]

I can't stop watching that.

[razorboy]

Kobe out indefinitely with severe ankle sprain. (http://nba.si.com/2013/03/13/kobe-bryant-ankle-injury-lakers-hawks/)

[cougarjake13]

Kobe out indefinitely with severe ankle sprain. (http://nba.si.com/2013/03/13/kobe-bryant-ankle-injury-lakers-hawks/)


now Howard needs to come out and tell Kobe to suck it up and play

[A.J.]

Cleveland really is cursed. Way to blow a 27 point lead, dicks.

[Kevin]

Cleveland really is cursed. Way to blow a 27 point lead, dicks.


Then they had a shot at the end to win.

They were without Thompson and Irving though.

What is it with all these knee injuries in the NBA. I don't think there have ever been as many.

I don't recall so many young players having them either.

[razorboy]

Pat Riley is such a petty, vindictive twat.

[A.J.]

Pat Riley is such a petty, vindictive twat.

It's hard to take seriously a man who quit the Knicks by fax.

[underdog]

It's hard to take seriously a man who quit the Knicks by fax.

ixnay on the coach quitting in a bad way thing.

[hanso]

He responded to a shot

[Kevin]

ixnay on the coach quitting in a bad way thing.

It was against the Jets...

I'll allow it...

[Kevin]

He responded to a shot

LeBron is the last guy to complain about foul calling...

He went 6 Goddamn games without a foul being called on him.

[newport king]

Soooo...are we just not talking about the Knicks till they play the Heat?

[underdog]

Soooo...are we just not talking about the Knicks till they play the Heat?

Melo is playing ridiculous, but I think the Celtics have just been playing awful in the 4th quarter so far. When the Knicks beat the Celtics, I'll jump on the bandwagon, but these games have been too close for how bad the Celtics have been playing so far. The Knicks should be winning the games by 40.

[hanso]

Soooo...are we just not talking about the Knicks till they play the Heat?

I think they just won the same amount of playoff games as they did in the last 12 years.

[cougarjake13]

I think they just won the same amount of playoff games as they did in the last 12 years.

sounds bout right

[newport king]

Jason fuckin Terry.

[cougarjake13]

funniest quote I saw was


if Paul pierce comes out with a bloody sock, watch out

[newport king]

I wish just 1 ref would eject Spike Lee from a game.

[newport king]

Dear Knicks,

Just play 5 on 2. JR Smith is awful and fuck you Melo.

[hanso]

Stephenson the real knick-a-bopper

[underdog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKohLfCCcAAmM56.jpg:large

[hanso]

Roy!


The Knicks championship drought is now at 40 years and counting

[hanso]

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Marco "BIG BALLS" Belinelli

[underdog]

Nothing better than seeing Miami fans upset, but that was a garbage call.

[underdog]

And holy shit. LBJ.

[deliciousV]

Nothing better than seeing Miami fans upset, but that was a garbage call.

saw no foul, but it all evened out.

[Kevin]

Nothing better than seeing Miami fans upset, but that was a garbage call.

Well when you allow two travels in a row, you have to make it not looked staged somehow...

[hanso]

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Birdman.. Birdman.

[underdog]

Dwayne Wade just passed up an open 3 to Chris Bosh.

[jennysmurf]

Dwayne Wade just passed up an open 3 to Chris Bosh.

I was looking for a picture of Dwayne Wayne to illustrate that I always think of him when I hear "Dwayne Wade," but apparently, I'm not the only one...

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[hanso]

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TKO X 2

[Snoogans]

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TKO X 2

wow. never change, Hanso

[hanso]

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[hanso]

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Tony Parker makes above shot & this one on the face of Shane Battier. Didn't even know Shane Battier played in game 1

[hanso]

You beat us we beat you by 20

Red Hot Heat

[newport king]

So how does it work? Does David Stern just tell the officials to get it to a game 7?

[A.J.]

So how does it work? Does David Stern just tell the officials to get it to a game 7?

Pretty much.

[underdog]

So how does it work? Does David Stern just tell the officials to get it to a game 7?

Yes. And David Stern tells Ray Allen to make that three. And he tells the ball to bounce the way it did to get back to Lebron to hit his three.

[newport king]

Yes. And David Stern tells Ray Allen to make that three. And he tells the ball to bounce the way it did to get back to Lebron to hit his three.

Oh if we're just talking about the last 10 seconds of the game, lets bring up that Ginobli got clotheslined on his drive. Im not even bringing up Bosh's foul on Greene in OT

[hanso]

WhiteHotHeat

[underdog]

Oh if we're just talking about the last 10 seconds of the game, lets bring up that Ginobli got clotheslined on his drive. Im not even bringing up Bosh's foul on Greene in OT

He also traveled, which didn't get called.

[newport king]

He also traveled, which didn't get called.


I agree there. But NBA lets you take like 4 or 5 steps.

[A.J.]

I agree there. But NBA lets you take like 4 or 5 steps.

And then some.

[newport king]

And then some.

Traveling always annoyed me, and when an offensive player grabs a rebound, puts the ball on the floor with both hands and goes back up to the rim, ive NEVER seen that called a double dribble.

[newport king]

Side note, im not real sure why killing the clock in the NFL isnt intentional grounding.

[cougarjake13]

Side note, im not real sure why killing the clock in the NFL isnt intentional grounding.



I have two theories and I don't know what the rule book actually says

1 I believe it's in the rule book where it says any pass thrown with no eligible receiver nearby is intl grounding except when qb does it from right under center to stop clock
or

2 the running back is considered close enough for it not to be grounding

[Snoogans]

Traveling always annoyed me, and when an offensive player grabs a rebound, puts the ball on the floor with both hands and goes back up to the rim, ive NEVER seen that called a double dribble.

thats cause thats not a double dribble. A double dribble is when you were dribbling and stopped, and then started to dribble again.

[newport king]

thats cause thats not a double dribble. A double dribble is when you were dribbling and stopped, and then started to dribble again.

You know the move i mean right? Grab a rebound and with both hands bounce the ball and take it back up. Some PAL ref once called a double dribble on me for that when i was 10

[newport king]

I have two theories and I don't know what the rule book actually says

1 I believe it's in the rule book where it says any pass thrown with no eligible receiver nearby is intl grounding except when qb does it from right under center to stop clock
or

2 the running back is considered close enough for it not to be grounding

Looked it up, said intentional grounding is specifically to avoid a sack. My argument should be its a fumble.

Step to third and throw to first pickoff move should be a balk. You're intentionally trying to deceive the runner.

[underdog]

Step to third and throw to first pickoff move should be a balk. You're intentionally trying to deceive the runner.

I think it is now.

[underdog]

It is. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/rule-change-third-first-fake-pickoff-move-now-033809715--mlb.html)

[Snoogans]

You know the move i mean right? Grab a rebound and with both hands bounce the ball and take it back up. Some PAL ref once called a double dribble on me for that when i was 10

yea in the NBA that move isnt illegal as long as its only 1 dribble. Otherwise I believe it would officially be called as a palming or carry or traveling. Something. But you are allowed to do the move you are talking about.

also, spiking the ball isnt a fumble because it goes forward. Even if you are pitchin to the RB, if you pitch it forward its incomplete. And besides, why would you not want teams to clock the ball? You want the ends of games to suck balls cause the clock always runs out?

[Snoogans]

Looked it up, said intentional grounding is specifically to avoid a sack. My argument should be its a fumble.

Step to third and throw to first pickoff move should be a balk. You're intentionally trying to deceive the runner.

I have seen this move tried maybe 10K times in my life. I have seen it work twice. Once by Greg Maddox like 20 years ago, and once last year against Ichiro, ironically. I think thats a big part of why they banned it. Not really cause you are deceiving anything, they got rid of that cause they are sick of wasting time on something that works 0.00000001% of the times its tried.

besides. the official rule for a balk is so stupid and long, they were probably hesitant to add any more shit to it:

A pitcher is restricted to a certain set of motions and one of two basic pitching positions before and during a pitch; if these regulations are violated with one or more runners on base, an umpire may call a balk.

With a runner on base and the pitcher on or astride (with one leg on each side of) the rubber, it is a balk[2] when the pitcher:

switches his pitching position from the windup to the set (or vice versa) without properly disengaging the rubber;
while on the rubber, makes a motion associated with his pitch and does not complete the delivery;
when pitching from the set position, fails to make a complete stop with his hands together before beginning to pitch;
throws from the mound to a base without stepping toward (gaining distance in the direction of) that base;
throws or feints a throw from the rubber to an unoccupied base, unless a play is imminent;
steps or feints from the rubber to first or third base without completing the throw (doing so to second base is legal);
delivers a quick return, a pitch thrown right after receiving the ball back, with intent to catch the batter off-guard;
drops the ball while on the rubber, even if by accident, if the ball does not subsequently cross a foul line;
while intentionally walking a batter, releases a pitch while the catcher is out of his box with one or both feet
unnecessarily delays the game
pitches while facing away from the batter;
after bringing his hands together on the rubber, separates them except in making a pitch or a throw;
stands on or astride the rubber without the ball, or mimics a pitch without the ball; or
throws to first when the first baseman, because of his distance from the base, is unable to make a play on the runner there.

The pitcher's acts of spitting on the ball, defacing or altering the ball, rubbing the ball on the clothing or body, or applying a foreign substance to the ball are not balks, however it will result in the pitcher's ejection from the game if caught.

[newport king]

yea in the NBA that move isnt illegal as long as its only 1 dribble. Otherwise I believe it would officially be called as a palming or carry or traveling. Something. But you are allowed to do the move you are talking about.

also, spiking the ball isnt a fumble because it goes forward. Even if you are pitchin to the RB, if you pitch it forward its incomplete. And besides, why would you not want teams to clock the ball? You want the ends of games to suck balls cause the clock always runs out?

No it started on what is or isnt traveling and went off into something else

[hanso]

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[hanso]

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[MHasegawa]

:clap::clap: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9421224/new-york-knicks-jr-smith-become-free-agent-source-says :clap::clap::clap:

[hanso]

Nets load up in trade, got 5 stars now and D. Will a good player as well

[Snoogans]

Nets load up in trade, got 5 stars now and D. Will a good player as well

what 5 stars? They have 2 old men, a decent center, and 2 lazy bums

[underdog]

Remember all the Knicks fans freaking out last year because Jeremy Lin went to Houston?

Houston is apparently already trying to trade him.

[hanso]

Knicks made a trade, forget players but imo they give too much for too little again.

[Snoogans]

Knicks made a trade, forget players but imo they give too much for too little again.

thats great analysis hanso. They got Andrea Bargnani, and the too much they apparently gave up is Marcus Camby and Steve Novak.

[Earlshog]

thats great analysis hanso. They got Andrea Bargnani, and the too much they apparently gave up is Marcus Camby and Steve Novak.

who else was bidding for injury prone Bargnani and his bad contract? If you want to risk by taking on the salary I say why not, it’s only for two years and cap wise they are very limited with what they can do in that two year window, but why, why, why would you give up a one? I know it’s not football and if they are good it will be a late pick but there was no need to deal it… no need!!!! Maybe Isaiah is back in the mix, God forbid!!!

[Snoogans]

who else was bidding for injury prone Bargnani and his bad contract? If you want to risk by taking on the salary I say why not, it’s only for two years and cap wise they are very limited with what they can do in that two year window, but why, why, why would you give up a one? I know it’s not football and if they are good it will be a late pick but there was no need to deal it… no need!!!! Maybe Isaiah is back in the mix, God forbid!!!

ive stopped worrying about what the knicks do with draft picks anymore. We gave up one in 2011 for a deal from 2003 (the marbury deal).
And he had some injuries sure, but I think alot more of it was him checking out in toronto and not really giving a fuck, especially after they threw away a year or 2 after bosh left. I think a fresh start could help him. But mainly, we got a 27 year old who fills a need when he is healthy, and i think his health wont be a huge issue going forward, for 2 guys who were taking up space and a future 1 that we probably woulda used to draft some european bum anyway.

I can understand people not thinking this is some magic deal. I dont either, but its basically a break even deal with a chance to be pretty good. People are killing it as if the Knicks just set themselves back 2 years or something. The only way its bad is if that pick ends up being top 5 or something. And if thats the case, the Knicks wouldnt have had it anyway cause they woulda been so bad they woulda traded it for a name that woulda kept selling tickets. Thats what they do.

edit: oh and people also seem to be forgetting this isnt a same money years deal. Novak has 3 years left on his deal, camby and andrea have 2. So the knicks also cleared another like 4.5 million from the year all the deals we have are up, on top of whatever else is coming off.

[hanso]

who else was bidding for injury prone Bargnani and his bad contract? If you want to risk by taking on the salary I say why not, it’s only for two years and cap wise they are very limited with what they can do in that two year window, but why, why, why would you give up a one? I know it’s not football and if they are good it will be a late pick but there was no need to deal it… no need!!!! Maybe Isaiah is back in the mix, God forbid!!!

I posted this before I knew about any picks, the guy can be good but has been inconsistent awhile now.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dwight Howard to sign with Houston

[cougarjake13]

seemed like the front runners

[WRESTLINGFAN]

LA offered 5 years 118 million however he took 4 years and 88 million

He left 30 million on the table but that might even out because CA has the highest state income tax and TX has none

[Snoogans]

LA offered 5 years 118 million however he took 4 years and 88 million

He left 30 million on the table but that might even out because CA has the highest state income tax and TX has none

the savings on state income tax come no where near 30 million. If he had taken the lakers offer, he would have paid roughly 11 mill in state tax over life of the deal after you factor out what his agent will get and other shit.

Also, the no state tax thing makes me laugh. yea I guess it helps for half your money, but when you are an athlete you have to pay at least some tax to every single state you play in based on the number of times you played there

[cougarjake13]

I always wondered about that and you just answered it for me snoogs

[Snoogans]

I always wondered about that and you just answered it for me snoogs


the way it breaks down is buy how much money you physically earned in the state. So say you play in NY. They get to take state tax on all your money, since you most likely live in that state. If not, its whatever state you live in. In NBA you are paid by game basically over 82 games. (or 162, or 16, whatever sport, the taxing works out the same way) So then lets say you also play 4 games in the state of california. Cali gets to tax you for 4 games worth of your pay. And so on and so on. The rates are slightly lower than a residents state income tax would be cause you dont live in the state. Whatever state you live in you pay the standard rate that anyone else would in that bracket.

And yes, that means anytime you play in a state with no income tax, you dont have to pay extra tax. So there is still a big draw to playing in a state without income tax, but its not like people act. Also, because of the paying to so many states, and the earning so much money out of state, athletes usually get a larger % back from each state than a normal worker would. It must be awesome to get a few hundred thousand dollar tax return

[sailor]

You also have to consider what he'll make that 5th year with his next contract, assuming he'll still be playing, barring injury.

[Snoogans]

You also have to consider what he'll make that 5th year with his next contract, assuming he'll still be playing, barring injury.


even with injury, in 4 years he will only be like 31 32, he will prob still get at least 10 mil a year even if he blows for the next 4 years. Centers get PAID in the NBA. Just how it is

[Snoogans]

the whole tax thing is also a big reason states and cities pay for arenas and shit. They know that if they keep a team in their city, at the very least they are gonna make some money off taxing them, unless its an income tax free state. Then its just stupid.

Im lookin at you, Miami

[sailor]

even with injury, in 4 years he will only be like 31 32, he will prob still get at least 10 mil a year even if he blows for the next 4 years. Centers get PAID in the NBA. Just how it is

Yeah, I just meant it's not like he passed on the full 30 unless he was somehow out of the league and got nothing that fifth year.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the whole tax thing is also a big reason states and cities pay for arenas and shit. They know that if they keep a team in their city, at the very least they are gonna make some money off taxing them, unless its an income tax free state. Then its just stupid.

Im lookin at you, Miami



Miami is the worst. The taxpayers got fucked over royally in regards to Marlins ballpark

For taxes doesn't it affect where your residence is? I remember Jeter having a huge tax bill for NY, He's a resident of FL now

[Snoogans]

Miami is the worst. The taxpayers got fucked over royally in regards to Marlins ballpark

For taxes doesn't it affect where your residence is? I remember Jeter having a huge tax bill for NY, He's a resident of FL now


jeter had a huge unpaid tax bill cause he didnt give the state a cent. Your main place of residence takes the most (if they tax you), but every place you work also takes a bit. in jeters case, because he made most of his money in NY, he had to pay a higher rate than he thought, so he ended up having to pay more later on.

essentially think of it like this. Lets say you live in NJ and work in NY. You pay tax to NJ in full amount, and then you pay a lower level to NY since you dont actually live there. But you still have to pay to both.

For athletes it works the same, except they end up having to pay little bit to each state they play in. Because if each state got a piece of everything, there would be no money left, so the state only gets a piece of what was played in that state.

Thats why it didnt matter jeter lived in florida.

[Earlshog]

Dwight Howard to sign with Houston

They were already talking about LeBron and Melo joining the Lakers after next season on the radio. Maybe if the NBA institutes a new rule in which a second basketball is put into use, other than that.... I am sure we won't hear much about this speculation over the next year lol...

[cougarjake13]

so apparently j Kidd is buying jay z's stake in team


so I guess there's no conflict with him being owner and coach ?

[Snoogans]

so apparently j Kidd is buying jay z's stake in team


so I guess there's no conflict with him being owner and coach ?

why would their be a conflict, the coach is management

[cougarjake13]

I dunno

I thought Riley had to give up his stake when he took over in Miami

I guess there wouldn't be cause Jerry acts as gm and owner for the cowgirls

[Kevin]

Plus he has 0.67%

He would not even be allowed to a board meeting.

[hanso]

Suns buy out Beasley's 7 mil contract to make him go away. He can use the money for his felony pot charge.