Ron and Fez Listening Thread 12/5/12 - Third Eyes

[realmenhatelife]

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Oh that Katy Goodman just enjoying herself...

[Dell]

moaning buddays...:bye:


I was trying to keep it a secret...

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[Dell]

found this beauty...I'm going to use it for my "Questions?" slide at the end of my presentation

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61959_395489947199909_1378293974_n.jpg

[Rhah]

That eye pic is spooky.

[A.J.]

An all-Molly's theme today and no Molly Hatchet?

[realmenhatelife]

I take Little Richard over Jerry Lee every time.

[Dell]

I take Little Richard over Jerry Lee every time.

gay...tee hee hee

[realmenhatelife]

An all-Molly's theme today and no Molly Hatchet?

And on a more subtle note, they went with the cover of Mollys Lips.

But yeah Flirting With Disaster seems like a no brainer.

[Misteriosa]

hey buddays :o

i have a TON of work to do, but the thought is not overwhelming me. weird, right?

[realmenhatelife]

hey buddays :o

i have a TON of work to do, but the thought is not overwhelming me. weird, right?

And all while you're on bullshit fake brainwash pills they just give as legal speed for the sheeple. Go figure.

[Misteriosa]

And all while you're on bullshit fake brainwash pills they just give as legal speed for the sheeple. Go figure.

baaaaaaa! :wink:

[LeedsJr]

Ron is driving me nuts with the, "This guy is not trying to get out", nonsense.

If he read any of the articles, witnessses said the guy tried for over a minute to pull himself out.

[realmenhatelife]

Ron is driving me nuts with the, "This guy is not trying to get out", nonsense.

If he read any of the articles, witnessses said the guy tried for over a minute to pull himself out.

They're definately blaming the shit out of this guy. They about said he probably wanted to get hit and that he asked for it for getting into a fight with someone.

[Dell]

Ron is driving me nuts with the, "This guy is not trying to get out", nonsense.

If he read any of the articles, witnessses said the guy tried for over a minute to pull himself out.

did anyone try to help pull him out?..I cannot imagine seeing a guy try and not lean down and try to pull him out (a person on each arm should have been able to do it)

[sailor]

I don't know, even if there were people trying to help I'd still hate the paper running the photo.

[LeedsJr]

did anyone try to help pull him out?..I cannot imagine seeing a guy try and not lean down and try to pull him out (a person on each arm should have been able to do it)

No.

[realmenhatelife]

It sounds like they're trying to justify why it isn't immoral to run the photo or to take it instead of helping.

[sailor]

On the other hand, a lot of people expressing outrage over the photo are showing it off themselves

[LeedsJr]

My only problem with the photo is I think the guy is lying that he was just trying to alert the conductor with his flash. That picture is framed and focused a little to perfectly to have just happened accidently.

[sailor]

My only problem with the photo is I think the guy is lying that he was just trying to alert the conductor with his flash. That picture is framed and focused a little to perfectly to have just happened accidently.

Yeah, obviously bull.

[jennysmurf]

My only problem with the photo is I think the guy is lying that he was just trying to alert the conductor with his flash. That picture is framed and focused a little to perfectly to have just happened accidently.

That's what I thought. He stood and took the picture instead of helping, so now he's trying to justify it.

[LeedsJr]

Yeah, but bacon tastes good, pork chops tastes good...

[Misteriosa]

ron, i think the need for cultural sensitivity is important here because of the genocide committed on these people. :o

[realmenhatelife]

We came here, grabbed up the country, and killed most of them, and sequestered the rest. I think the least we could do is to not use coopted versions of their dying sacred traditions to sell underwear.

[Misteriosa]

We came here, grabbed up the country, and killed most of them, and sequestered the rest. I think the least we could do is to not use coopted versions of their dying sacred traditions to sell underwear.

he's obviously never heard of the term "cultural misappropriation" :o

[sailor]

Without knowing the story, after reading the last three posts I side with Ron on this one.

[LeedsJr]

It is the easiest thing in the world to insult an Irishman, just remind him the English own their asses. :tongue:

[realmenhatelife]

Why is fez so bad at this, it's so frustrating.

[jennysmurf]

Why is fez so bad at this, it's so frustrating.

I know, he is on the "logical" side for once, and he's terrible at defending it.

[sailor]

It is the easiest thing in the world to insult an Irishman, just remind him the English own their asses. :tongue:

Scottish, but same impact:

Some hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We're ruled by effete assholes.

[sailor]

I know, he is on the "logical" side for once, and he's terrible at defending it.

Shit, now I know I'm on the right side of this argument.

[LeedsJr]

I don't think Eminem is a fair comparison to minstrel shows. He grew up in that culture. It is as much his as it is the black guys in his neighborhood.

[Misteriosa]

uhh ron, mistrel shows were not done out of admiration for black people.

eta: i know its not the paragon of research but

Minstrel shows lampooned black people as dim-witted,[1] lazy,[1] buffoonish,[2][1] superstitious, happy-go-lucky,[1] and musical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show#cite_note-coon-1

[realmenhatelife]

Without knowing the story, after reading the last three posts I side with Ron on this one.

Ron's saying that white people wearing indian head dresses in the victoria's secret catalog is the same as wearing a cop outfit in a movie and that the brown man should get back on his reservation and shut up.

Oh and now it's the same thing as paul simon using african music. He's willfully ignoring the historical context of white people appropriating indian shit for their own gain.

[LeedsJr]

Scottish, but same impact:

Some hate the English. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We're ruled by effete assholes.

Maybe, but your whiskey is the nectar of the gods. :thumbup: :drunk:

[sailor]

Ron's saying that white people wearing indian head dresses in the victoria's secret catalog is the same as wearing a cop outfit in a movie and that the brown man should get back on his reservation and shut up.

Oh and now it's the same thing as paul simon using african music. He's willfully ignoring the historical context of white people appropriating indian shit for their own gain.

Eh, other than your obviously loaded language I don't have an issue with it either.

[jennysmurf]

Don't use stereotypical items, and then be surprised when people are offended.

[Misteriosa]

i dont think that fez is advocating for everyone to be the same. i think fez might be asking for people to feel a bit of empathy (which im sure just caused a giant tear in the fabric of time and space :laugh:)

aaaaaaand godwin's law. thanks, ron!

[Dell]

if you have to convince someone that it's "offensive" then it probably isn't offensive to the majority of people...

[Misteriosa]

if you have to convince someone that it's "offensive" then it probably isn't offensive to the majority of people...

just because something isnt offensive to the majority, that doesnt mean it isnt wrong or less offensive. it just allows for further marginalization of the minority.

[deliciousV]

Indians were not this peace loving, one with the earth group of people they are made out to be, many of the tribes were savages, constantly attacking other tribes, killing everyone and eating babies. People now a days are quick to impose the morals of this time onto the past. That was a time of exploration by civilized people who believed it was right to bring civilization to the places they "discovered ".

[jennysmurf]

if you have to convince someone that it's "offensive" then it probably isn't offensive to the majority of people...

I think they know that it's offensive and why, they're just being difficult.

[realmenhatelife]

Eh, other than your obviously loaded language I don't have an issue with it either.

I dont have a 'problem' with it exactly. I see it and I'm not personally offended but I do think it's in bad taste. Sometimes bad taste is the goal. I'm more offended by Ron's argument because I think it's overly dismissive of people with a legitimate gripe, and I think it's drawing a lot of totally valueless and misleading analogies.

It's in bad taste and I dont give a shit is a far more acceptable response to me than it's not in bad taste you're just over sensitive.

[hanso]

I missed the story but who watches the head dress?

[Dell]

just because something isnt offensive to the majority, that doesnt mean it isnt wrong or less offensive. it just allows for further marginalization of the minority.

if something offends me, I feel no need to convince others that they need to be offended...I feel only people that embrace being the victim feel that need

[deliciousV]

if you have to convince someone that it's "offensive" then it probably isn't offensive to the majority of people...

our country doesn't care about the majority anymore, it's all about appeasing every squeeky wheel, at the expence of the freedoms of the majority

[spoon]

just because something isnt offensive to the majority, that doesnt mean it isnt wrong or less offensive. it just allows for further marginalization of the minority.

this thread offends me

so shut it down!

[Dell]

Indians were not this peace loving, one with the earth group of people they are made out to be, many of the tribes were savages, constantly attacking other tribes, killing everyone and eating babies. People now a days are quick to impose the morals of this time onto the past. That was a time of exploration by civilized people who believed it was right to bring civilization to the places they "discovered ".

my mother's grandmother (her father's mother) was a full American Indian...I find your characterization of American Indians offensive, and let me convince you why...:wink:

[spoon]

our country doesn't care about the majority anymore, it's all about appeasing every squeeky wheel, at the expence of the freedoms of the majority

you offended the squeeky wheel on my garbage can...ban DelV now!

[Misteriosa]

Indians were not this peace loving, one with the earth group of people they are made out to be, many of the tribes were savages, constantly attacking other tribes, killing everyone and eating babies. People now a days are quick to impose the morals of this time onto the past. That was a time of exploration by civilized people who believed it was right to bring civilization to the places they "discovered ".

yes, the first nations were not all peace loving people as you say, but they also werent all wild savages. like churchill said, "history is written by the victors."

as far as imposing morals of this time onto the past, i dont think that is the case here. from what i understand, it was the use of the headdress that was the problem.

[Gvac]

You might want to educate other people as to why you're offended, but legislating against everything is not the answer.

Teaching people why they shouldn't say racial slurs, for example, makes a lot more sense to me than outlawing those words and removing them from books and songs.

[jennysmurf]

this thread offends me

so shut it down!

You're just coming in here and being all silly and stuff.

[spoon]

my mother's grandmother (her father's mother) was a full American Indian...I find your characterization of American Indians offensive, and let me convince you why...:wink:

My American Indian grandpapapapapapapa did in fact enjoy a well marinated baby or two in his day so you offended my heritage!

:furious:


Now we continue it with voluntary aborted fetuses to stay within the law to keep our heritage alive, but man some of those come all banged up and it's just not the same.

[spoon]

like churchill said, "history is written by the victors."



he stole that quote from keithy's distant relative, winston templemound.

[spoon]

You might want to educate other people as to why you're offended, but legislating against everything is not the answer.

Teaching people why they shouldn't say racial slurs, for example, makes a lot more sense to me than outlawing those words and removing them from books and songs.

says mr. red state

go back to your incest and moonshine dixievac

[deliciousV]

my mother's grandmother (her father's mother) was a full American Indian...I find your characterization of American Indians offensive, and let me convince you why...:wink:

I'm told that I have some american indian blood, hence the dark complexion. I was born in, and my whole family is from kentucky, and I mean the sticks, nobody is more harshly stereotyped than hillbilly's , but you don't see groups forming to decry the constant abuse, and you don't find any compassion from all the people who side with every group of whiners to start shit about being offended.

[realmenhatelife]

our country doesn't care about the majority anymore, it's all about appeasing every squeeky wheel, at the expence of the freedoms of the majority

I would never support any form of government regulation that is meant to prevent anyone from being offended. I support the equal ability of everyone to express themsevles freely. Im as in favor of the model wearing the headdress as the special interest group's protest of it from an idealogical perspective.

As a white guy I'd say I'm not less cared about by society just because I now have to be more considerate of the non majority. I can still do whatever I want.

[Dell]

You might want to educate other people as to why you're offended, but legislating against everything is not the answer.

Teaching people why they shouldn't say racial slurs, for example, makes a lot more sense to me than outlawing those words and removing them from books and songs.

I agree...but "educating" people should never be confused with "assimilating" people

[deliciousV]

yes, the first nations were not all peace loving people as you say, but they also werent all wild savages. like churchill said, "history is written by the victors."

as far as imposing morals of this time onto the past, i dont think that is the case here. from what i understand, it was the use of the headdress that was the problem.

notice I said "many of the tribes", not all.

[LeedsJr]

Did that commercial just ask if I remembered someone "you wanted to bang"?? :blink:

How low are their commercials going to sink?

[Dell]

I'm told that I have some american indian blood, hence the dark complexion. I was born in, and my whole family is from kentucky, and I mean the sticks, nobody is more harshly stereotyped than hillbilly's , but you don't see groups forming to decry the constant abuse, and you don't find any compassion from all the people who side with every group of whiners to start shit about being offended.

my great grandmother that was American Indian did marry a McCoy...us hillbillies need to form a special interest group

[Warren Peace]

Did that commercial just ask if I remembered someone "you wanted to bang"?? :blink:

How low are their commercials going to sink?

Sweet Release

[deliciousV]

I would never support any form of government regulation that is meant to prevent anyone from being offended. I support the equal ability of everyone to express themsevles freely. Im as in favor of the model wearing the headdress as the special interest group's protest of it from an idealogical perspective.

As a white guy I'd say I'm not less cared about by society just because I now have to be more considerate of the non majority. I can still do whatever I want.

a couple of years ago several radio shows got canned for humor that was considered offensive to certain minority groups, the vast majority of listeners were not offended, but the show was cancelled to appease the slightly offended. This is the kind of thing I was talking about.

[LeedsJr]

I'm told that I have some american indian blood, hence the dark complexion. I was born in, and my whole family is from kentucky, and I mean the sticks, nobody is more harshly stereotyped than hillbilly's , but you don't see groups forming to decry the constant abuse, and you don't find any compassion from all the people who side with every group of whiners to start shit about being offended.

That's because they can't read most of the offending material. :laugh:

[spoon]

I'm told that I have some american indian blood, hence the dark complexion. I was born in, and my whole family is from kentucky, and I mean the sticks, nobody is more harshly stereotyped than hillbilly's , but you don't see groups forming to decry the constant abuse, and you don't find any compassion from all the people who side with every group of whiners to start shit about being offended.

shut your mouf boy!

[Dell]

That's because they can't read most of the offending material. :laugh:

shut your mouf boy!

I'm reporting both of you to our new special interest group...you will hear from our lawyer, Bubba McCoy, Esquire

[realmenhatelife]

a couple of years ago several radio shows got canned for humor that was considered offensive to certain minority groups, the vast majority of listeners were not offended, but the show was cancelled to appease the slightly offended. This is the kind of thing I was talking about.

I got ya, and I'm personally not in favor of firing people for saying things, but I get that if you make yourself a financial liability to the company that they may get rid of you. I think it has more to do with financial liability than any morality, and the company decided they would have a greater financial issue keeping the people than firing them.

I think that's what HTG was trying to do with PAC. Try to show that level of support to mitigate the impact of an offended special interest group. But you cant blame the offended party for how the company responds. It isn't free speach if they have to keep their mouths shut.

[spoon]

I'm reporting both of you to our new special interest group...you will hear from our lawyer, Bubba McCoy, Esquire

That mother fucker BETTER turn up as a board character ASAP!

:lol:

[realmenhatelife]

You might want to educate other people as to why you're offended, but legislating against everything is not the answer.

Teaching people why they shouldn't say racial slurs, for example, makes a lot more sense to me than outlawing those words and removing them from books and songs.

I cant remember the last one of these issues that involved legislation.

The cities that were blocking Chick Filet from moving in kinda but 1, that failed, and 2, it's fucking stupid for a city to try and block chick filet.

[deliciousV]

I'm reporting both of you to our new special interest group...you will hear from our lawyer, Bubba McCoy, Esquire

:lol:

[Dell]

I cant remember the last one of these issues that involved legislation.

The cities that were blocking Chick Filet from moving in kinda but 1, that failed, and 2, it's fucking stupid for a city to try and block chick filet.

I get it AND I agree...Chick Filet is AWESOME

[LeedsJr]

Since when is reading the TV Guide a spy report? :dry:

[Dell]

best spy report delivered since...sixflagsspy

[realmenhatelife]

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[deliciousV]

I get it AND I agree...Chick Filet is AWESOME

my niece works at Chick Filet, she gets Sundays off and they are paying for her college.

[LeedsJr]

I just watched them both. I have no idea why, but they both made me crack up.

I don't think this intern class can be topped.

[realmenhatelife]

Yaba could so get her.

[A.J.]

Is that the pizza joint near the old Crowe's Nest?

[deliciousV]

I'm offended by the amount of pizza being wasted

[sailor]

Miss Mojo.

[spoon]

my niece works at Chick Filet, she gets Sundays off and they are paying for her college.

by college you mean beauty school right?

[Dell]

Miss Mojo.

you could always have one of the other Mods give you a Gag Banning...that should hold you over

[jennysmurf]

I'm offended by the amount of pizza being wasted

Me too! What the heck? I'm starvin over here!

[hanso]

first time I can remember seeing the video that is being used live on radio

[deliciousV]

by college you mean beauty school right?

nope, Wright State University.

[Dell]

first time I can remember seeing the video that is being used live on radio

Ron and Fez...the "multimedia" presentation

[A.J.]

I'm offended by the amount of pizza being wasted

The shittiest NY pizza joint is better than the best "pizza" down here.

[jennysmurf]

The shittiest NY pizza joint is better than the best "pizza" down here.

Truth.

[Dell]

in keeping with a recent trend...

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/29567_10151367179794574_1343668654_n.jpg

[Dell]

school officials found the following offensive and threatening...I would have lost my shit if this happened to one of my children

youth-suspended-over-sketch-of-gun (http://www.funnymos.com/youth-suspended-over-sketch-of-gun.html)

[deliciousV]

The shittiest NY pizza joint is better than the best "pizza" down here.

I was only in Manhattan once, when I was driving a cargo van while waiting on a call for freight, I didn't have a lot of time so I never got a chance to grab a slice, I did grab a dirty water dog.

[jennysmurf]

I was only in Manhattan once, when I was driving a cargo van while waiting on a call for freight, I didn't have a lot of time so I never got a chance to grab a slice, I did grab a dirty water dog.

http://mattcbr.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/drooling_homer.gif?w=314&h=360

[LeedsJr]

Perfect! They're wasting the rest of the show on an Unmast, but my son's first game is this afternoon, so I wasn't gonna be listening anyway. :thumbup:

[deliciousV]

Perfect! They're wasting the rest of the show on an Unmast, but my son's first game is this afternoon, so I wasn't gonna be listening anyway. :thumbup:

I think this'll be a good one

[disneyspy]

that must have been the "allies" moment

[disneyspy]

i guess fez is all done laughing now

[realmenhatelife]

i guess fez is all done laughing now

Yeah I dont think it's as big of a deal as Fez is making it. He didn't seem to mean that being gay is upsetting, but that you wouldn't be all jovial if you were just presented with a serious issue that you need to digest.

And it did sound like the room really tensed up right then.

[sailor]

that must have been the "allies" moment

Chose to listen to the start of the show rather than the unmast, hilarious Ron had to explain he didn't mean "allies."

[disneyspy]

Yeah I dont think it's as big of a deal as Fez is making it. He didn't seem to mean that being gay is upsetting, but that you wouldn't be all jovial if you were just presented with a serious issue that you need to digest.

And it did sound like the room really tensed up right then.

ya,heard no nervous giggles or anything

i hear that kinda stuff at 12 step meetings and i'm a horrible inappropriate giggler

[disneyspy]

Chose to listen to the start of the show rather than the unmast, hilarious Ron had to explain he didn't mean "allies."

thats the first time ive ever heard him explain his philly accent

[disneyspy]

didnt get to hear yesterdays show or most of todays,who pulled out of fez?

[disneyspy]

i'm so scared of crazy homeless people now that i won't even eat at subway

[jennysmurf]

i'm so scared of crazy homeless people now that i won't even eat at subway

http://www.srpl.net/images/slap.jpg

[Dell]

http://www.srpl.net/images/slap.jpg

HA...I actually laughed at his subway joke

[deliciousV]

HA...I actually laughed at his subway joke

slap yourself

[Dell]

slap yourself

I do feel really bad about myself...:sad: