Ron and Fez Listening Thread 6/26/13 - Come on Back

[realmenhatelife]

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Come Back, Kids

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I wonder if they will bring up today's big news...

I can't believe Hernandez got released already

[realmenhatelife]

I'm sure they will. I mean, I probably wouldn't keep a guy getting bagged up for murder, either.

[Dell]

moaning buddays...:bye:

Paulo IN THE HOUSE...:clap:

[LeedsJr]

moaning buddays...:bye:

Paulo IN THE HOUSE...:clap:


:clap:

[LeedsJr]

"Jawls"? :happy:

[LeedsJr]

Classic Shelb! :clap:

[jimmyolsenblues]

Paul-O is never bad radio...No one is more bat shit crazy then Paul-O.

[sailor]

Paul-O is never bad radio...No one is more bat shit crazy then Paul-O.

No one living, anyways.

[Lemieux66]

I'm looking forward to Louis CK's review of Gap II: Even Gappier.

[Misteriosa]

hey buddays :o

[Misteriosa]

"Jawls"? :happy:

and "Jawls 2" :sleep:

[Misteriosa]

they are making vine clips of paul-o's movies? are they better than the originals? :laugh:

[Dell]

I'm looking forward to Louis CK's review of Gap II: Even Gappier.

his review of GAP was some of the best radio I have heard...maybe the only radio bit on YouTube that I've listened to multiple times

[hanso]

I wonder if they will bring up today's big news...

I can't believe Hernandez got released already

They picked up te ballard a while back. They must have seen this coming.

[Gutter]

hey buds.

[Misteriosa]

oh.. and im guessing they haven't talked about the supreme court striking down doma and prop. 8 (http://jezebel.com/a-big-day-for-gay-supreme-court-strikes-down-doma-and-585173110), right? :o

[Recyclerz]

oh.. and im guessing they haven't talked about the supreme court striking down doma and prop. 8 (http://jezebel.com/a-big-day-for-gay-supreme-court-strikes-down-doma-and-585173110), right? :o

Ron's mentioned it and pointed out Fez's lack of comment on the developments but the first hour has been the Life & Times of Paul O

Maybe we'll get Fez's take later

[realmenhatelife]

Listen, this country doesn't work in such a way where you say "lets take all the war on drug money and spend it on education..." If that money goes up for grabs it would be a massive boondoggle over if it becomes a tax cut or spent on something else.


Also, I'm really in favor of legalization and drug courts and all that, but I think its way more complicated than people in support are letting on and I see a lot of collateral damage before we get it right. Ron's precious south side of chicago would feel the effects more than most places.

[realmenhatelife]

and "Jawls 2" :sleep:

Jowls: The Ron Bennington Story

[Misteriosa]

Listen, this country doesn't work in such a way where you say "lets take all the war on drug money and spend it on education..." If that money goes up for grabs it would be a massive boondoggle over if it becomes a tax cut or spent on something else.

Also, I'm really in favor of legalization and drug courts and all that, but I think its way more complicated than people in support are letting on and I see a lot of collateral damage before we get it right. Ron's precious south side of chicago would feel the effects more than most places.

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[realmenhatelife]

You also have to ask yourself if legalizing drugs will strengthen or hurt those foreign drug cartels? Because the US government isn't going to product heroin and coke.

We need decriminalization more than legalization.

[realmenhatelife]

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Its twue its twue.


Different movie but I dont give a damn.

[Gutter]

jeeeezus this is a bore.

[Dell]

this would be a LOT more entertaining if Paulo were doing the interview...you know, his being a movie expert and everything

[jennysmurf]

jeeeezus this is a bore.

What do you think Jesus will do about it?

http://t-shirtguru.com/product-images/rescue-me-jesus-t-shirt-choiceshirts-1.jpg

[Gutter]

What do you think Jesus will do about it?

Go with Christ 'brah.

[jennysmurf]

Go with Christ 'brah.

Who you calllin' 'brah? I'm a girl!





Sorry. I'm just picking fights with you to entertain myself. Do you mind being used for my entertainment?

[realmenhatelife]

I know people are really happy about the filibuster in Texas. I'm certainly happy that they didn't get that law passed, but I think we need to chill on the filibuster thing. If a law I wanted passed was getting filibustered I'd be pissed. And I'd like to see some federal protection for abortion rights instead of needing fluke, last minute gymnastics. I guess the whole thing has taught me I'm not a libertarian and I think we're going down a dangerous road by determining that things should be states rights issues because they are inflammatory and unpopular for federal politicians to make rulings on.

[Recyclerz]

Listen, this country doesn't work in such a way where you say "lets take all the war on drug money and spend it on education..." If that money goes up for grabs it would be a massive boondoggle over if it becomes a tax cut or spent on something else.


Also, I'm really in favor of legalization and drug courts and all that, but I think its way more complicated than people in support are letting on and I see a lot of collateral damage before we get it right. Ron's precious south side of chicago would feel the effects more than most places.

I agree with your point about neither side having a clean "solution" to drug problems but I'm not sure that Chicago gets worse. If you take the profit out of the illegal drug business the motive for a lot of violence goes down. You still have atavistic human behavior but I doubt the addiction rates would go up greatly there. Where the problems will pop up significantly (I suspect) is the upper middle class enclaves, which is why politicians are afraid to touch this.

The film makers & Ron seem to be having a full intelligent conversation about the topic though.

[Gutter]

Who you calllin' 'brah? I'm a girl!





Sorry. I'm just picking fights with you to entertain myself. Do you mind being used for my entertainment?

you wanna pick somethin' go pick your nose!!! ya big bully!!

[Dell]

you wanna pick somethin' go pick your nose!!! ya big bully!!

good one...

[Misteriosa]

I know people are really happy about the filibuster in Texas. I'm certainly happy that they didn't get that law passed, but I think we need to chill on the filibuster thing. If a law I wanted passed was getting filibustered I'd be pissed. And I'd like to see some federal protection for abortion rights instead of needing fluke, last minute gymnastics. I guess the whole thing has taught me I'm not a libertarian and I think we're going down a dangerous road by determining that things should be states rights issues because they are inflammatory and unpopular for federal politicians to make rulings on.

yeah.. its aleady a constitutional right. that is why opponents go after it on the state level. they make the regulations around women's health care options so stringent that its virtually impossible to obtain without making it illegal outright. having their cake, eating it too, etc. etc.

[jennysmurf]

you wanna pick somethin' go pick your nose!!! ya big bully!!

good one...

Right? He shut me right down.

[Gutter]

Right? He shut me right down.

I've had lots of experience.

[realmenhatelife]

Who you calllin' 'brah? I'm a girl!





Sorry. I'm just picking fights with you to entertain myself. Do you mind being used for my entertainment?

As we learned yesterday Jenny is never without a Brah.

[Dell]

yeah.. its aleady a constitutional right. that is why opponents go after it on the state level. they make the regulations around women's health care options so stringent that its virtually impossible to obtain without making it illegal outright. having their cake, eating it too, etc. etc.

I never knew how much men tried to control/regulate women's health until I saw how out of the loop women were historically...I am proof you can learn things by watching Boardwalk Empire and Mad Men

[jennysmurf]

As we learned yesterday Jenny is never without a Brah.

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[Misteriosa]

I never knew how much men tried to control/regulate women's health until I saw how out of the loop women were historically...I am proof you can learn things by watching Boardwalk Empire and Mad Men

i forgot where i read it, but some one wrote something along the lines of "who can remember the last time a man filibustered for 13 hours to stop the legislation of his genitals? oh thats right, never."

[realmenhatelife]

I agree with your point about neither side having a clean "solution" to drug problems but I'm not sure that Chicago gets worse. If you take the profit out of the illegal drug business the motive for a lot of violence goes down. You still have atavistic human behavior but I doubt the addiction rates would go up greatly there. Where the problems will pop up significantly (I suspect) is the upper middle class enclaves, which is why politicians are afraid to touch this.

The film makers & Ron seem to be having a full intelligent conversation about the topic though.

I'm not personally convinced that the profit goes out of it though, that's the problem. I agree if you can kill the black market you fix a lot of problems, but does this kill the black market, does it legitimize evil groups of people, and if it does do those peopel change their behavior?

I think a lot of support for stuff like this unfortunately comes from a selfish place of 'hell yeah I want legal drugs.' I think the only real solution to eliminate the black market is to eliminate the customer, but I cant see conservatives pledging a ton of money to putting drug offenders through treatments for as many times as it takes.

[Dell]

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/ursoklevar/colorfulmanatee.gif

that picture didn't make it through our firewall...cannot wait until I get home to view it :wub:

[realmenhatelife]

yeah.. its aleady a constitutional right. that is why opponents go after it on the state level. they make the regulations around women's health care options so stringent that its virtually impossible to obtain without making it illegal outright. having their cake, eating it too, etc. etc.



You know how misogyny makes my italian blood boil.

[jennysmurf]

that picture didn't make it through our firewall...cannot wait until I get home to view it :wub:

You are going to be sooooooo disappoint.

[Dell]

I'm not personally convinced that the profit goes out of it though, that's the problem. I agree if you can kill the black market you fix a lot of problems, but does this kill the black market, does it legitimize evil groups of people, and if it does do those peopel change their behavior?

I think a lot of support for stuff like this unfortunately comes from a selfish place of 'hell yeah I want legal drugs.' I think the only real solution to eliminate the black market is to eliminate the customer, but I cant see conservatives pledging a ton of money to putting drug offenders through treatments for as many times as it takes.

it will put a dent into the black market, but not eliminate it...moonshine versions of the drugs will pop up in the black market and when certain localities over tax it, it will reappear like cigarettes

[Misteriosa]

You are going to be sooooooo disappoint.

:popcorn:

[jennysmurf]

:popcorn:

I wish I could see the disappointment on his face when he sees what the picture is.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Do we really need another break of drugs are good for music.
Is Ron ok? Does he need a vacation?

[realmenhatelife]

it will put a dent into the black market, but not eliminate it...moonshine versions of the drugs will pop up in the black market and when certain localities over tax it, it will reappear like cigarettes

Exactly, people cant grow tobacco so they're stuck buying cigarettes. Its not like we've ever been successful stopping drugs from coming into the country illegally.

The price drop in drugs comes from flooding the market with them, that could be rough for awhile. You're essentially going to be killing off all the low hanging fruit.

[Dell]

Do we really need another break of drugs are good for music.
Is Ron ok? Does he need a vacation?

no...no...yes

[realmenhatelife]

I wouldn't mind an english muffin, I havent had one in forever.

[hanso]

I know people are really happy about the filibuster in Texas. I'm certainly happy that they didn't get that law passed, but I think we need to chill on the filibuster thing. If a law I wanted passed was getting filibustered I'd be pissed. And I'd like to see some federal protection for abortion rights instead of needing fluke, last minute gymnastics. I guess the whole thing has taught me I'm not a libertarian and I think we're going down a dangerous road by determining that things should be states rights issues because they are inflammatory and unpopular for federal politicians to make rulings on.

I thought it did pass after the one lady was done with the filibuster

[sailor]

i forgot where i read it, but some one wrote something along the lines of "who can remember the last time a man filibustered for 13 hours to stop the legislation of his genitals? oh thats right, never."

I know it's not popular here, but I don't see it as a women's health issue and think that's an overly simplistic view. I'll go back to never mentioning the matter again.

[sailor]

I thought it did pass after the one lady was done with the filibuster

It passed, but they ruled the vote took place after the deadline.

[realmenhatelife]

I thought it did pass after the one lady was done with the filibuster

They're currently saying the bill is dead but I suspect we haven't heard the last of this. Someone said they never officially closed the session, Rick Perry might try to add a second special session, stuff like that.

[hanso]

I'm not personally convinced that the profit goes out of it though, that's the problem. I agree if you can kill the black market you fix a lot of problems, but does this kill the black market, does it legitimize evil groups of people, and if it does do those peopel change their behavior?

I think a lot of support for stuff like this unfortunately comes from a selfish place of 'hell yeah I want legal drugs.' I think the only real solution to eliminate the black market is to eliminate the customer, but I cant see conservatives pledging a ton of money to putting drug offenders through treatments for as many times as it takes.

I'm thinking the DIY wave would take off. Like that grow veggie plant upside down tv ad but for weeeed maaahhnnn

[sailor]

I'm thinking the DIY wave would take off. Like that grow veggie plant upside down tv ad but for weeeed maaahhnnn

Tomatoes.

[realmenhatelife]

Remember the last statistic that 70% of Americans hate their jobs and check out at work? Lets relate the two.

[sailor]

Sorry for killing the fun. :(

[sailor]

Remember the last statistic that 70% of Americans hate their jobs and check out at work? Lets relate the two.

Relate it to what?

[realmenhatelife]

Fez needs to shave his mustache to get laid. He cant have that big brush. And he needs some fitted clothes.

[realmenhatelife]

Relate it to what?

They just read another statistic that 75% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. It can also be figured into the minimum wage, if scaled the same as production, should be 3 times the current minimum.

[CountryBob]

Paulo is great radio

[sailor]

Fez needs to shave his mustache to get laid. He cant have that big brush. And he needs some fitted clothes.

I'm sure your personal preferences don't extend to all gay guys.

[Gutter]

Director Shawn Levy is directing a scene outside my office building right now. I think its the film he's working on with Jason Bateman, Tim Olyphant, and Tina Fey. soooo eesssssiiiiiting! haha.


Jay Okerson is a riot. love his standup

[sailor]

They just read another statistic that 75% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. It can also be figured into the minimum wage, if scaled the same as production, should be 3 times the current minimum.

It's be interesting to see the correlation. I don't know how strong it is.

[Gutter]

Do all gay people think that anything bad or mean that happens to them happens because they're gay?

[realmenhatelife]

It's be interesting to see the correlation. I don't know how strong it is.

Between job satisfaction and salary? I'm sure it's not 100% of people unsatisfied live pay check to pay check but I'll bet it's pretty good, especially in the service industry and people in the middle who are carrying a lot of debt from school/real estate.

[A.J.]

Do all gay people think that anything bad or mean that happens to them happens because they're gay?

Only those with AIDS and meningitis.

[Gutter]

Only those with AIDS and meningitis.

got it.

[sailor]

Between job satisfaction and salary? I'm sure it's not 100% of people unsatisfied live pay check to pay check but I'll bet it's pretty good, especially in the service industry and people in the middle who are carrying a lot of debt from school/real estate.

I don't think it's be as strong as you think.

[realmenhatelife]

I love Paul snipping at gbaby.

[LeedsJr]

Paulo is great radio

Sure is. He even makes G Boring bearable. :happy:

[hanso]

got it.

You should get those checked out

[sailor]

Paul's right, first thing I thought from trailers alone was WHiD and OhF were essentially the same movie.

[LeedsJr]

Director Shawn Levy is directing a scene outside my office building right now. I think its the film he's working on with Jason Bateman, Tim Olyphant, and Tina Fey. soooo eesssssiiiiiting! haha.


Jay Okerson is a riot. love his standup


He's doing a great job of sitting back and letting the madness that is Paul O run amok. :happy:

[sailor]

How did they make the leap to police academy?

[realmenhatelife]

Its metropolis, not NY, right?

[LeedsJr]

This is even better than last Friday's show, which was awesome. :lol:

[LeedsJr]

SHARK! :laugh:

[sailor]

I agree with Ron not getting the filibuster. Seems like an end-around to stop people from voting. For either side of any issue it seems like bullshit to me.

[jimmyolsenblues]

Paul-O is way more entertaining than Big Jay O.

[realmenhatelife]

I agree with Ron not getting the filibuster. Seems like an end-around to stop people from voting. For either side of any issue it seems like bullshit to me.

The one thing I will say is that in an ideal world it's kindof a messed up thing but also it can act as a check against otherwise rigged processes.


Or like the caller is pointing out the GOP in texas tried to sneak the bill in which makes no provision for stuff like rape and incest and fillibustering is also a way to make sure people know about it and can object to it.

[Misteriosa]

i was watching the live stream. they said sen. davis went off topic when she was discussing the sonogram law that would work in conjunction with the bill in question. it was insane.

[Misteriosa]

The one thing I will say is that in an ideal world it's kindof a messed up thing but also it can act as a check against otherwise rigged processes.

thats the thing tho. the "president" (the speaker of the state senate) kept trying to jump over procedure and ignore rules of conduct. he let the senators who wanted to pass the bill table it before all the questions were asked (and while other senators still had the floor). that right there fucked it all up and ate the remaining 90 mins. if he would have followed the procedural rules, they would not have run out of time.

[LeedsJr]

Ron: "There's no such thing as states rights." HUH?!? :blink:

[Dell]

Fez needs to shave his mustache to get laid. He cant have that big brush. And he needs some fitted clothes.

mustache rides are free...aghee ghee ghee

[realmenhatelife]

thats the thing tho. the "president" (the speaker of the state senate) kept trying to jump over procedure and ignore rules of conduct. he let the senators who wanted to pass the bill table it before all the questions were asked (and while other senators still had the floor). that right there fucked it all up and ate the remaining 90 mins. if he would have followed the procedural rules, they would not have run out of time.

I'm sure you read how print outs of bible quotes were distributed to all the reps before the vote.

[Misteriosa]

Ron: "There's no such thing as states rights." HUH?!? :blink:

yeah.. that threw me for a loop :blink:

[Dell]

You should get those checked out

there's medicine for that now...it's not like it use to be


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg312/cuylerballenger/bubs-walon.jpg

[Misteriosa]

I'm sure you read how print outs of bible quotes were distributed to all the reps before the vote.

and im sure it came with a handout on how rape kits are effective contraceptive and cleansing treatments

[realmenhatelife]

mustache rides are free...aghee ghee ghee

I get down and even that image grosses me out.

[hanso]

Ron: "There's no such thing as states rights." HUH?!? :blink:

He must have ment

The Constitution and Federal law are the supreme law of the land, and override any similar state laws.

or

Federal law always overrides State law if the ruling has been made by the Supreme Court.

and so on and so forth

[Dell]

I get down and even that image grosses me out.

just grab those ears and let the good times begin...:huh:

[realmenhatelife]

Pepper is gonna bust a lung.

[sailor]

thats the thing tho. the "president" (the speaker of the state senate) kept trying to jump over procedure and ignore rules of conduct. he let the senators who wanted to pass the bill table it before all the questions were asked (and while other senators still had the floor). that right there fucked it all up and ate the remaining 90 mins. if he would have followed the procedural rules, they would not have run out of time.

My point is, how much of your and RMHL's support is due to you opposition of this law? What if the law was in support of these measures and some right wing nut filibustered to prevent passage? I think it's a dick move either way.

[Misteriosa]

Do i support the blocking of this bill? hell yes.

Do i support the use of the filibuster? i support it in the form in which it was done here. the person who opposes the bill actually steps up and talks about the issue and holds a debate on it. the filibuster is a legislative obstruction tool on purpose. iirc, the filibuster can be overridden if 2/3 of the voting body decides to and swears to it (cloture). i do not support the anonymous type of filibuster that has been happening in the us senate as of late.

now, what made this filibuster so important was its time sensitive nature. from what i understand, this special session was originally called to discuss the redistricing of maps or something like that, not for SB5.

[realmenhatelife]

My point is, how much of your and RMHL's support is due to you opposition of this law? What if the law was in support of these measures and some right wing nut filibustered to prevent passage? I think it's a dick move either way.

Earlier in the thread I actually already posted about how I dont think people should be super happy that a filibuster was successful for exactly this reason, I would be pissed if someone was filibustering a law I supported. It's an obstinate view point that winning on a technicality is a "good win."

I was trying to imagine why filibustering exists still. Which was where I was getting my stuff about it being a check against crooked dealings, such as using religious motivation to pass a law, or trying to pass a law "quietly."

The real point to be discussed I guess is to what degree does the majority owe consideration of the minority opinon? I'm not at all libertarian in the sense that I dont think states should be able to make this laws, but ironically I do think the policy of the land should be abstain from the things you dont agree with, dont outlaw them.

[realmenhatelife]

There is also a sense of dirty pool here because what you want to do is outlaw abortion but the feds say you cant, so what you do is make is so difficult to get an abortion it essentially becomes impossible. Thats circumventing federal law and its bullshit, especially when those greatest effected are not your constituents and your motivation is purely outside the realm of your stated job ie a religious one, and as was pointed out this was tacked on to a session about voting districts two weeks ago to avoid organized opposition.

To give another view point I'm not a gun guy, I dont want to own a gun, I dont really like guns, I think the value of guns is over stated and aside from pistols, hunting rifles and shot guns you dont especially need them. But thats my personal opinion, and if they tried to pass a law that made it illegal to make bullets just because they could never successfully ban guns I would stand up and say "no, thats bullshit, the constitution says you can own guns so amend the constitution if you dare but dont try and circumvent due process."

So the filibustering makes sense as a last resort there when a politician isn't serving the public in an honest way.

[thepaulo]

Another crazy day at the office. How's it going here?

[hanso]

Do i support the blocking of this bill? hell yes.

Do i support the use of the filibuster? i support it in the form in which it was done here. the person who opposes the bill actually steps up and talks about the issue and holds a debate on it. the filibuster is a legislative obstruction tool on purpose. iirc, the filibuster can be overridden if 2/3 of the voting body decides to and swears to it (cloture). i do not support the anonymous type of filibuster that has been happening in the us senate as of late.

now, what made this filibuster so important was its time sensitive nature. from what i understand, this special session was originally called to discuss the redistricing of maps or something like that, not for SB5.

Same here, don't think they even have to show up. Would rather have the old fashion way of doing it. I would even tune into C-Span to watch it.

[deliciousV]

Another crazy day at the office. How's it going here?

great, just great. Awesome appearance on the show today , just awesome. Now, can you get me a part on the new Police Academy movie you're working on?

[Dell]

Another crazy day at the office. How's it going here?

you were money...however, you did talk a lot for a guy that kept saying he wasn't talking

[realmenhatelife]

Another crazy day at the office. How's it going here?

Good show, Paul. See if you can get Fez out to buy some nice date clothes.

[Dell]

You are going to be sooooooo disappoint.

yep...:thumbdown:

[jennysmurf]

yep...:thumbdown:

:happy:

[realmenhatelife]

manatease

[jennysmurf]

manatease

Hey, you started it with your terrible bra pun.

[thepaulo]

good day