Breaking Bad Spoilerzone!!!

[realmenhatelife]

So people know where to go and not go.


There's a thing on Buzzfeed that says every time Walt kills someone he assimilates a habit of theirs. I dont buy it actually because some of their evidence can be explained away with the normal character arc "walt is turning evil."

But they cite that because Walt makes his own birthday breakfast bacon numbers, is using Skylars maiden name as an alias, and is possibly wearing Jesse's jacket that he kills them.


I think that Walt came back for the ricin because he counted on the cancer killing him the whole time, but he has received a clean bill of health and realizes that dying is the only way he can end the investigation that will suck down Skylar and Jesse.

[JimBeam]

Did I miss something in this last episode ?

Did he get the ricin back while he was in the house in the beginning ?

[realmenhatelife]

Did I miss something in this last episode ?

Did he get the ricin back while he was in the house in the beginning ?

Yeah, in the flash forward he goes into the house and gets the ricin from the electrical outlet.

[KnoxHarrington]

So people know where to go and not go.


There's a thing on Buzzfeed that says every time Walt kills someone he assimilates a habit of theirs. I dont buy it actually because some of their evidence can be explained away with the normal character arc "walt is turning evil."

But they cite that because Walt makes his own birthday breakfast bacon numbers, is using Skylars maiden name as an alias, and is possibly wearing Jesse's jacket that he kills them.


I think that Walt came back for the ricin because he counted on the cancer killing him the whole time, but he has received a clean bill of health and realizes that dying is the only way he can end the investigation that will suck down Skylar and Jesse.

I think that's reading way too much into it. But I think a big theme of these final episodes will be if there's anything good left in Walt. Will he act to protect Skylar, Walt Jr., and even Jesse, or will he destroy them to try to save himself?

The way this is going, I really have no idea how this is going to end. I don't think it's gonna be a happy feel good ending though.

[JimBeam]

I thought the part where the nazi guys ( who I mentioned would become an issue ) killed Declan and his men was sloppy.

We know little about Declan bu what we do know is that he competed alongside Gus for some time so obviously had some brains, pull and muscle.

So he just allows his team to be attacked and killed, in their territory, by some guys w/o putting up much of a fight ?

That part I thought was very weak.

[thepaulo]

I thought the part where the nazi guys ( who I mentioned would become an issue ) killed Declan and his men was sloppy.

We know little about Declan bu what we do know is that he competed alongside Gus for some time so obviously had some brains, pull and muscle.

So he just allows his team to be attacked and killed, in their territory, by some guys w/o putting up much of a fight ?

That part I thought was very weak.

It was easy. The bitch set him up.

[JimBeam]

I get that but he's got these armed guards and they don't see them coming ?

Not even that because they saw them coming because the guy said " We have trouble up here. "

So they didn't anticpate trouble and brace themselves ?

Pretty weak writing.

[Dirtbag]

They were outnumbered and outgunned. I'm more concerned about how easily they were able to follow Lydia to the cook site after all the precautions they seemingly took with her.

[realmenhatelife]

They were outnumbered and outgunned. I'm more concerned about how easily they were able to follow Lydia to the cook site after all the precautions they seemingly took with her.

She probably had a tracker in her slick pocket.

Although, the subtext says that Declan ran a sloppy operation. The purity of his product was 75% at the highest and had dropped to an all time low, the lab was filthy, and he acts like a thug instead of a business man.

[sailor]

So people know where to go and not go.


There's a thing on Buzzfeed that says every time Walt kills someone he assimilates a habit of theirs. I dont buy it actually because some of their evidence can be explained away with the normal character arc "walt is turning evil."

But they cite that because Walt makes his own birthday breakfast bacon numbers, is using Skylars maiden name as an alias, and is possibly wearing Jesse's jacket that he kills them.


I think that Walt came back for the ricin because he counted on the cancer killing him the whole time, but he has received a clean bill of health and realizes that dying is the only way he can end the investigation that will suck down Skylar and Jesse.

This genius cannot kill himself without driving a few thousand miles to get the ricin?

[deliciousV]

This genius cannot kill himself without driving a few thousand miles to get the ricin?

Walt drove to the burned out remains of his own house, where do you get that he drove "a few thousand miles"?

[underdog]

I thought it was weird that his fake ID had the same birthday as his real birthday.

[realmenhatelife]

This genius cannot kill himself without driving a few thousand miles to get the ricin?

It's symbolic. Unless the ricin is potential evidence for him to destroy. But I think it's symbolic.

Walt drove to the burned out remains of his own house, where do you get that he drove "a few thousand miles"?

He presumably drove from Massachusetts although there's not guarantee that he didn't get back home before he decided he need the ricin.

[deliciousV]

It's symbolic. Unless the ricin is potential evidence for him to destroy. But I think it's symbolic.



He presumably drove from Massachusetts although there's not guarantee that he didn't get back home before he decided he need the ricin.

Fuck! I must have missed something, I have no idea when/why/how he ended up there.

[JimBeam]

They were outnumbered and outgunned. I'm more concerned about how easily they were able to follow Lydia to the cook site after all the precautions they seemingly took with her.

I don't see the outnumbered.

There were about as many dead guys as nazis.

Outgunned maybe but again they should've had the advantage of cover as this was their place of business.

Declan being a crappy businessman doesn't explain how you have 5 or so armed man standing around in your secret spot and yet still get taken down, with some warning, but seeminlgy w/o much of a fight.

I think they implied that she was being tracked when they showed her messing with her phone just before the guy said they had a problem.

[realmenhatelife]

Fuck! I must have missed something, I have no idea when/why/how he ended up there.

The flash fowards from last summer take place out there.

[deliciousV]

The flash fowards from last summer take place out there.

is that something I should have noticed last season? Or this season?

[sailor]

It's symbolic. Unless the ricin is potential evidence for him to destroy. But I think it's symbolic.



He presumably drove from Massachusetts although there's not guarantee that he didn't get back home before he decided he need the ricin.

That trunkload of guns wasn't symbolic.

I thought it was NH, but wasn't sure. It's why I was vague on the distance.

[sailor]

is that something I should have noticed last season? Or this season?

Start of last season, which they never referenced again until the start of this season.

[thepaulo]

I get that but he's got these armed guards and they don't see them coming ?

Not even that because they saw them coming because the guy said " We have trouble up here. "

So they didn't anticpate trouble and brace themselves ?

Pretty weak writing.

You can't get good help no more.

[underdog]

That trunkload of guns wasn't symbolic.

I thought it was NH, but wasn't sure. It's why I was vague on the distance.

He was in New Mexico, he just had a fake ID from NH.

[underdog]

The flash fowards from last summer take place out there.

I'm pretty sure he was at a New Mexico Denny's. I don't think he ever left New Mexico.

[JimBeam]

I'm pretty sure he was at a New Mexico Denny's. I don't think he ever left New Mexico.

Yeah I was under the impression it was local to most of the story.

[sailor]

He was in New Mexico, he just had a fake ID from NH.

I know he was in NM at that time, but I did believe he'd traveled back from NH.

[realmenhatelife]

I checked, hes in a nm Denny's using a NH id and driving a car with nh plates.

[underdog]

I checked, hes in a nm Denny's using a NH id and driving a car with nh plates.

Yeah, and I would assume it's a fake ID. He never left NM.

[sailor]

Yeah, and I would assume it's a fake ID. He never left NM.

I assumed he had. Opinions vary. He also looked very NH.

[underdog]

I assumed he had. Opinions vary. He also looked very NH.

You look very NH.

[realmenhatelife]

I think he did leave NM. He knew exactly how long it takes to drive from NH to NM, and his car had NH plates which seems like it'd be both odd and unneccisary to fake and far more likely that he just bought a car in NH.

[thepaulo]

loose cannon alert!!

[deliciousV]

I think he did leave NM. He knew exactly how long it takes to drive from NH to NM, and his car had NH plates which seems like it'd be both odd and unneccisary to fake and far more likely that he just bought a car in NH.

maybe he moves his family there?

[deliciousV]

That was definitely a "holy fuck" episode!

[sailor]

maybe he moves his family there?

Totally forgot about the new identity guy. Makes sense they faked their deaths and started new life in NH. Would explain the neighbor freaking out when she saw Walt.

Like RMHL was saying, if he was staying in NM the whole time, NH id and plates draw unneeded attention to himself.

[RingWraith]

That was definitely a "holy fuck" episode!

I was like... wow!! Just..... WOW!!

[realmenhatelife]

They certainly arent fucking around these days.

So, does Jesse go fucking psycho and try to kill Walt or does he flip for Hank?

And I really thought Walt was going to shoot Jesse in the gut when they had their meeting with Saul where he tells him to leave town.

[sailor]

They certainly arent fucking around these days.

So, does Jesse go fucking psycho and try to kill Walt or does he flip for Hank?

And I really thought Walt was going to shoot Jesse in the gut when they had their meeting with Saul where he tells him to leave town.

Neither? I think he has too much loyalty Walt in the end.

And this spoiler zone seems silly to me. It's a discussion of things that have ready happened on a tv show. Not things that will happen in future seasons (like that other show/thread).

[realmenhatelife]

Neither? I think he has too much loyalty Walt in the end.

And this spoiler zone seems silly to me. It's a discussion of things that have ready happened on a tv show. Not things that will happen in future seasons (like that other show/thread).

I dont know, Jesse was looking pretty amped and unstable. Walt has poisoned his step kid, made him send away his whole family, and made Jesse believe it was his own fault. If he really was that loyal to Walt in the end I think he just would've left town.


I dont know it seemed like there was a sentiment that people who arent current might like a little protection from explicit spoilers.

[sailor]

I dont know, Jesse was looking pretty amped and unstable. Walt has poisoned his step kid, made him send away his whole family, and made Jesse believe it was his own fault. If he really was that loyal to Walt in the end I think he just would've left town.


I dont know it seemed like there was a sentiment that people who arent current might like a little protection from explicit spoilers.

Yeah, forgot about the kid at the end. Maybe you're right. That was really silly lifting smokes from him again in the exact same manner.

I get that, and it's why I'm posting here, but some people are on season four...if they write about that it's gonna fuck with the people on season 3. I only started watching the series over this summer and stayed away from the thread until I was caught up. Like I said, no biggie and I'll continue to post here, it just seemed silly.

[newport king]

I thought he was lighting a ricin cigarette in the office. Im still not 100% how jesse connected the dots. Its been awhile since the whole brock thing. Also walt has ricin stored in that electrical outlet.

[realmenhatelife]

I thought he was lighting a ricin cigarette in the office. Im still not 100% how jesse connected the dots. Its been awhile since the whole brock thing. Also walt has ricin stored in that electrical outlet.

I took it that Jesse, who could not understand how Brock got his ricin but assumed it was his own fault, realized the Yule picked his pocket of the weed bag, also realized that Yule could've picked the cigarette pack to get the ricin.

He probably assumes that Walt used the ricin on Brock, not knowing that Walt synthesized a different poison and has kept the ricin for himself to manipulate Jesse into thinking that Jesse was responsible for Brock.

[newport king]

Well clearly he doesn't burn the house down.

[sailor]

I took it that Jesse, who could not understand how Brock got his ricin but assumed it was his own fault, realized the Yule picked his pocket of the weed bag, also realized that Yule could've picked the cigarette pack to get the ricin.

He probably assumes that Walt used the ricin on Brock, not knowing that Walt synthesized a different poison and has kept the ricin for himself to manipulate Jesse into thinking that Jesse was responsible for Brock.

Agreed.

[jennysmurf]

Yeah, forgot about the kid at the end. Maybe you're right. That was really silly lifting smokes from him again in the exact same manner.

I get that, and it's why I'm posting here, but some people are on season four...if they write about that it's gonna fuck with the people on season 3. I only started watching the series over this summer and stayed away from the thread until I was caught up. Like I said, no biggie and I'll continue to post here, it just seemed silly.

You're silly.

[sailor]

You're silly.

Totes. Obvi.

[deliciousV]

Totes. Obvi.

vomit inducing baby hipster talk

[KnoxHarrington]

So I just went back and re-watched the flash forward that begins this half season, and while the house looks really fucked up, it also doesn't look like there's been a fire. Probably just a parade of meth heads seeing if Heisenberg left any blue sky behind, and stealing shit.

[sailor]

vomit inducing baby hipster talk

Or, very silly...

[thepaulo]

"Mr. White's gay for me. Everyone knows that."

[KnoxHarrington]

After all of Walt's ruthlessness and willingness to kill if he must, they really set up this weekend that an act of kindness -- refusing to let Jesse be killed or hurt -- might be Walt's downfall.

[Jujubees2]

After all of Walt's ruthlessness and willingness to kill if he must, they really set up this weekend that an act of kindness -- refusing to let Jesse be killed or hurt -- might be Walt's downfall.

But it was interesting how the other characters (Skyler, Hank, Marie) are adopting a "whatever it takes" attitude. Skyler wants Walt to kill Jesse, Hank doesn't care if Jesse gets killed as long as he gets Walt and Marie babbles about some poison.

[thepaulo]

The cavalry's coming.

[Dirtbag]

That might have been the worst shootout ever.

[smiler grogan]

The events now seem to be spiraling out of even Mr. White's control.

I agree that shootout was a little ridiculous.

[Kevin]

The look off by Walt Jr and Saul was hysterical

[realmenhatelife]

But isn't that more how shootouts go, where people just unload and dont hit anything?


So I think Gomie is dead, maybe Hank gets hit and left? If this puts Walt and Jesse back together again, especially if they have to cook together again thats a nice bookend and a nice spin because obviously Jesse will be shitting bricks and they'll just be thinking about how to kill eachother.



Also, between this and It's Always Sunny.... Yule is having a great week.

[fezident]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Gomie is dead.
In movies and shows such as these... I'm always suspicious when the creators give a bit too much "character" to an unimportant character. In this case... I just kept hearing the name "Gomez" and "Gomie" just a bit too frequently. Gomie got the promotion... Gomie this, Gomie that. By the time the 3rd season started... I was convinced that Gomie was either an informant for Gus, or... that Gomie was gonna die.

Aaanyway... enough of that.


I have an outlandish prediction in the back of my head. So crazy a prediction... I can't even type it. But let's just say.... I don't think it's a coincidence that there are two guys on the show named Walt.

[newport king]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Gomie is dead.
In movies and shows such as these... I'm always suspicious when the creators give a bit too much "character" to an unimportant character. In this case... I just kept hearing the name "Gomez" and "Gomie" just a bit too frequently. Gomie got the promotion... Gomie this, Gomie that. By the time the 3rd season started... I was convinced that Gomie was either an informant for Gus, or... that Gomie was gonna die.

Aaanyway... enough of that.


I have an outlandish prediction in the back of my head. So crazy a prediction... I can't even type it. But let's just say.... I don't think it's a coincidence that there are two guys on the show named Walt.

Jr?

[KnoxHarrington]

Awesome episode, but Hank calling Marie to tell her he got Walt reminded me too much of this:

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[RingWraith]

Saul Goodman spinoff officially confirms...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/breaking-bad-spinoff-better-call-saul-confirmed

[thepaulo]

Saul Goodman spinoff officially confirms...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/breaking-bad-spinoff-better-call-saul-confirmed

which leads to a story in the next thread...

[joeyballsack]

Holy shit.

[KnoxHarrington]

Holy shit.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

[newport king]

Jesus Fucking Christ.


God damn.

[underdog]

That dialog from Walt to Jesse was unlike anything I've ever heard ever. Had to take a knee on that one.

[sailor]

Such a fucked up, great episode. No one likable on any level anymore, but fuck skylar, junior and Marie. Walt had to know the cops were there and seemed to be taking action to shield skylar for the sake of the kids.

[KnoxHarrington]

Such a fucked up, great episode. No one likable on any level anymore, but fuck skylar, junior and Marie. Walt had to know the cops were there and seemed to be taking action to shield skylar for the sake of the kids.

That's pretty much what I figured too, allow Skyler to play the "Walt abused me into this" card and not have any culpability. Skyler picked up on that, and I think that's why she said "I'm sorry."

[Kevin]

That's pretty much what I figured too, allow Skyler to play the "Walt abused me into this" card and not have any culpability. Skyler picked up on that, and I think that's why she said "I'm sorry."

Great ep...

Walt needed to get out..

Poor Jessie, being held hostage forced to cook.

[deliciousV]

I can see a possible out for Walt , since Hank and his partner were working on their own nobody official knows about Walt, and with Jesse cooking what will probably be blue meth with the really bad guys, who killed Hank, who also have most of Walt's cash, he can set them up as the real Heisenburg and walk away, free and clear.

[realmenhatelife]

Wait, fuck Jr? He just found out his dad is a meth kingpin and killed his favorite uncle. Then he sees him tackle his mom. It isn't exactly a judas move to call 911.


Walt's cold blooded shit with Jesse and then the phone call at the end- everyone gets to be good actors in this episode. Although if you removed slobbering and wimpering from jesse he's had like two lines all season.


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[sailor]

First, who would care if their dad was a meth kingpin? Second, he tried to SAVE Hank, kid needs to listen better. Third, the mother attacked Walt and the pussy did nothing but cry.

[TripleSkeet]

First, who would care if their dad was a meth kingpin? Second, he tried to SAVE Hank, kid needs to listen better. Third, the mother attacked Walt and the pussy did nothing but cry.

I thought I was weird because I dont get the whole freaking out because he was cooking meth thing. It would be one thing if they found out from him getting caught, so the kid was sortve justified. I mean he found out his dad was cooking meth at the same time he was told he was arrested, then told his dad killed his uncle, so for him I understand. But I never got why Skylar was such a cunt about it. He was taking all the risk and she would be reaping the benefits. And the sister is another cunt. Shes a criminal herelf whos husband keeps using his pull to keep her out of jail yet she judges Walt. I loved her face when she found out Hank was dead.

The way Walt treats Jesse is the only thing that really makes me root against him. Even so I just cant help but root for the guy to get away with the money. Personally for me I think the perfect way to end the series wouldve been with the episode where Hank finds the book. If they wouldve ended it like that, basically saying he got away with everything and Hank knows he got schooled but cant do anything about it, that I wouldve loved. By the way, Until 3 weeks ago I had never seen 1 episode of this show and now Im completely caught up.

[sailor]

Just for integrity I'm glad hank got killed. Would have been totally fake to let him live.

I also don't see where he treated Jesse so poorly.

[realmenhatelife]

Just for integrity I'm glad hank got killed. Would have been totally fake to let him live.

I also don't see where he treated Jesse so poorly.

My brother cited that as a breaking point, too, actually. He said as much as he loves the show if Hank lived he would've really felt like it had 'jumped the shark.'




But Walt has always treated Jesse like shit. They have a really paternalistic relationship and I think Walt acts really disappointed by him, even before Walt was full on Heisenberg.

[KnoxHarrington]

Just for integrity I'm glad hank got killed. Would have been totally fake to let him live.

I also don't see where he treated Jesse so poorly.

Plus Hank got in one of the coolest lines ever on this show: "My name is ASAC Schrader. You can go fuck yourself."

Hank got used as comic relief at times, but they never treated him as an out and out clown, and they never lost sight of the fact that he was a damn good federal agent.

[TripleSkeet]

I also don't see where he treated Jesse so poorly.

Really???? He belittled and manipulated the kid from the get go. I didnt feel bad when he was a junkie fuckup but when he was trying to get his shit together and he kept it up thats when it bothered me. Its bad enough you hand him over to the bikers to kill him, whats the point in crushing the kid by saying you watched his girl die and chose not to help her??? It almost seems like Walt feels like Jesse is a better person than him because hes always so racked with guilt over everything theyve done so hes got to feel better about himself by belittling him. Jesse is pretty much the only character Im really hoping makes it out alive. And Saul. I love Saul.

[sailor]

Really???? He belittled and manipulated the kid from the get go. I didnt feel bad when he was a junkie fuckup but when he was trying to get his shit together and he kept it up thats when it bothered me. Its bad enough you hand him over to the bikers to kill him, whats the point in crushing the kid by saying you watched his girl die and chose not to help her??? It almost seems like Walt feels like Jesse is a better person than him because hes always so racked with guilt over everything theyve done so hes got to feel better about himself by belittling him. Jesse is pretty much the only character Im really hoping makes it out alive. And Saul. I love Saul.

Yes, bringing up Jane was meant to crush Jesse, but Jesse had just ratted him out to the cops and he also blames Jesse for Hank getting killed. It was rough, but not without reason.

[realmenhatelife]

Yes, bringing up Jane was meant to crush Jesse, but Jesse had just ratted him out to the cops and he also blames Jesse for Hank getting killed. It was rough, but not without reason.

Walt is evil, thats the reason. You're falling into the justification trap which is what the show is about. Walt is able to justify everything he does to everyone else as reasonable and logical while everything that happens to him is unjustified. Walt reasoned that he killed Jane and poisoned Brock for Jesses own good. The metaphor for killing Jesse is "old yeller," a once loyal companion who needs to be put down for his own good.

I think Walts paternal relationship with Jesse is meant to show you that, on the surface Walt says everything is going on for his family, but ofcourse everything he's done has destroyed and corrupted his family. I think Walt is harder on Jesse because he cant take it out on Walt Jr, like he wants.

[underdog]

Yes, bringing up Jane was meant to crush Jesse, but Jesse had just ratted him out to the cops and he also blames Jesse for Hank getting killed. It was rough, but not without reason.

Walt bringing up Jane was the worst thing I've ever seen on tv.

[boonanas]

I feel like the second half of this season made me forget about all the crappy things Walt did in the first half of the season. I feel for Walt now, he's lost his family and is basically alone.

[fezident]

Brain fart.
Please remind me; why did Walt originally want to have Jesse killed?

His motivation (to ask Todd to contact the hitman uncle) escapes me at the moment.

[newport king]

Brain fart.
Please remind me; why did Walt originally want to have Jesse killed?

His motivation (to ask Todd to contact the hitman uncle) escapes me at the moment.

Jesse didnt go away. Skylar put the idea in his head.

[thepaulo]

Todd is such a sweet kid. "I want you to know, it's nothing personal."






I don't know how they filmed the scene with Jesse jumping for the grate. Aaron Paul must have a strong grip.

[sailor]

I'm pretty sure he was at a New Mexico Denny's. I don't think he ever left New Mexico.

Yeah, and I would assume it's a fake ID. He never left NM.

Face.

[sailor]

Todd is such a sweet kid. "I want you to know, it's nothing personal."

So, so fucked up. And telling him to calm down because there was still the kid...

[underdog]

Face.

Yep. I was very wrong.

[newport king]

I really hate Flynn

[sailor]

Yep. I was very wrong.

Like I was saying at the time, opinions varied; it could have gone either way.

Really funny if he's only coming back to kill the schwarz's. He was turning himself in until he saw them on tv. Like everything else it comes down to pride with Walt and not getting the credit he feels he deserves.

[deliciousV]

Like I was saying at the time, opinions varied; it could have gone either way.

Really funny if he's only coming back to kill the schwarz's. He was turning himself in until he saw them on tv. Like everything else it comes down to pride with Walt and not getting the credit he feels he deserves.

I thought that was part of the scene, but also the combination of what Jr. said with the things said on TV might have caused Walt to see just how bad he has broken.

Also, on the next American Ninja Warriors.....Jesse! I've watched ANW many times, I've never seen even the best trained person hold on that long.

[sailor]

I thought that was part of the scene, but also the combination of what Jr. said with the things said on TV might have caused Walt to see just how bad he has broken.

Also, on the next American Ninja Warriors.....Jesse! I've watched ANW many times, I've never seen even the best trained person hold on that long.

Junior was why he was going to turn himself in. The Schwartz's were why he changed his mind.

[newport king]

I dont think hes going strapped like that after the Schwartz's. I think in the end Jesse gets away with the money.

[sailor]

I dont think hes going strapped like that after the Schwartz's. I think in the end Jesse gets away with the money.

Oh, I totally meant that as a joke because it would be so anticlimactic and seemingly tangential.

[KnoxHarrington]

Oh, I totally meant that as a joke because it would be so anticlimactic and seemingly tangential.

Yeah, I doubt he's going after the Schwartzes, because, first of all, no way he's getting anywhere close to them now, and even he knows that's pointless. I think the ricin is for Lydia; he'll arrange a meeting with her, maybe offer to resume cooking so she doesn't have to deal with Psycho Todd anymore, and slip it into her tea (he'll tell her it's stevia.) The gun is for the Nazis. I don't think Walt imagines he can successfully kill them all and get his money back, but he damn sure wants to try.

[underdog]

Was the Schwartz guy a different guy than originally in the series?

[sailor]

Was the Schwartz guy a different guy than originally in the series?

Don't know. They looked odd, but it could have been because they were on a talk show.

[newport king]

Maybe I'm heartless, i really didnt give a shit about whats her name getting capped. The Aryans are extremely business like. Im sure Walt goes down in a blaze of glory, probably sacrificing himself to save Jesse.

[sailor]

Maybe I'm heartless, i really didnt give a shit about whats her name getting capped. The Aryans are extremely business like. Im sure Walt goes down in a blaze of glory, probably sacrificing himself to save Jesse.

Nah, totally fucked up. She got killed and her brother is now all alone and at risk, just because Jesse cared about them.

[deliciousV]

Nah, totally fucked up. She got killed and her brother is now all alone and at risk, just because Jesse cared about them.

Jesse should bury her at sea, then ride off in his boat, into the eye of a storm.

[underdog]

Jesse should bury her at sea, then ride off in his boat, into the eye of a storm.

Good thinking. Then be a lumberjack.

[Jujubees2]

So Walt could outsmart a Mexican cartel and Gus Fringe but gets taken down by some neo-Nazi white supremacy morons. Wait, his name is Walter White. Okay, makes sense.

[JimBeam]

I think Walt's gonna do something with that money box involving the Shwartzes.

Maybe send it to them in a way to fake implicate them in his actions as a form of embarassment/payback.

No way this show ends w/o Jessie getting a little retribution on Todd huh ?

I'll be very disappointed.

[JimBeam]

I'm having a debate w/ a friend about Todd.

He sees him as a ruthless killer but I see him as a tool trying to " man up ".

The killing of the boy was him overreacting and not a sign of him being cold blooded.

Killing the old g/f was something he had to do to keep credibility w/ his uncle.

Reasons I think he's a clumsy oaf and not a calculating badass :

The way he gushes about Walt like a fanboy

The school boy crush he has on Lydia not realizing she has no interest in him

Serving ice cream to a captive

All this leads to him going down.

[JimBeam]

Just for integrity I'm glad hank got killed. Would have been totally fake to let him live.

I also don't see where he treated Jesse so poorly.

Replying to these out of order but oh well.

Yes there was no way that Hank could've lived because he never would've not gone after those guys.

That being the case I can't see the Nazis being so sloppy that they killed 2 federal agents.

I mean I know they had no choice but that would always bring down a lot of heat.

Sure they were in the middle of nowhere but an invstigation would eventually lead to evidence being found.

Could be part of how this all ends.

[JimBeam]

Crap, one last thing.

Did anybody notice that the baby wasn't wearing the pink hat when then Nazis were in her room ?

Don't the blogs always refer to the wearing of the pink as some kind of revelation ?

[sailor]

The nazis showed up only expecting Jesse, unless my recollection is off. Once they showed up there was no real option. Although them coming armed to the teeth makes me think my memory is faulty.

Todd is a cold blooded sociopath.

[JimBeam]

Again I'll disagree on Todd.

He's Lenny, or George, whichever was the touched one in Of Mice And Men.

My thing is if they ever do get out to the scene where Hank and Gomie were killed they'll find shell casings and that could/would lead to some eventual discovery/

Not saying the show is going that way but that's how it would happen in real life.

[newport king]

Todd is everything i wish Jesse was.

[realmenhatelife]

Todd is everything i wish Jesse was.

A creepy towheaded albino?


Jesse doesn't need anymore ice cream.

[newport king]

A creepy towheaded albino?


Jesse doesn't need anymore ice cream.

Not a weeping pussy

[realmenhatelife]

Jesse makes a lot of sense, actually. He doesn't have crank to deal with his shit anymore, so he's just an emotional wreck.

[newport king]

Jesse makes a lot of sense, actually. He doesn't have crank to deal with his shit anymore, so he's just an emotional wreck.

Driving around weeping and throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars out of his car was one of the most annoying moments of tv ive watched

[Misteriosa]

Driving around weeping and throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars out of his car was one of the most annoying moments of tv ive watched

yeah, i wasnt there to pick up a couple of stacks :down:

[KnoxHarrington]

So Vince Gilligan has stated that The Disappearer from the last episode was based on the character Max Cherry from Jackie Brown, hence the casting of Robert Forster.

I like to believe that that guy is Max Cherry, who fled to Albuquerque after the events of Jackie Brown and got into a new line of business.

[realmenhatelife]

Yeah, Robert Forster was a really pleasant surprise. I also dont know what I'd rather see, Saul Goodman prequel dealing with the scum of ABQ, or Saul Goodman sequel starting new schemes in Nebraska.

[jennysmurf]

yeah, i wasnt there to pick up a couple of stacks :down:

Anytime I see that kind of thing happen on TV, it kills me just as though it were real money, and someone was really throwing it all away. Kind of like when a character orders something delicious, but doesn't eat it. :wacko:

[TripleSkeet]

Let me ask something....

If Jesse were to somehow die, and the tapes he made with Hank were destroyed, isnt it possible Walt could turn himself in and make a deal that would get him off free by turning in the neo nazis and the chick? I mean, if he were to say they threatened his family and forced him to coook and the feds went after them, they would find:

- $70 million
- 50 pounds of blue meth
- a meth lab
- a shitload of guns
- possibly the bodies of Hank and Gomie, with bullets that match the guns of the neo nazis
- the connection overseas
- the gun that matched the bullet that killed the kid biker and Jesses girl

I mean, if he gave them up and they found all that, couldnt he make a deal where he wouldnt get jail time? Plus if he was able to hide his money he would be able to keep that as well.

Obviously that isnt whats happening but Im trying to find a way where it wouldnt work and I cant find any.

For some reason I see this crazy ending where he saves Jesse and they are somehow able to kill all the bikers and it ends with the 2 of them waiting for the cops, sharing a ricin cigarette. But that tea drinking bitch has to somehow die first.

[deliciousV]

Let me ask something....

If Jesse were to somehow die, and the tapes he made with Hank were destroyed, isnt it possible Walt could turn himself in and make a deal that would get him off free by turning in the neo nazis and the chick? I mean, if he were to say they threatened his family and forced him to coook and the feds went after them, they would find:

- $70 million
- 50 pounds of blue meth
- a meth lab
- a shitload of guns
- possibly the bodies of Hank and Gomie, with bullets that match the guns of the neo nazis
- the connection overseas
- the gun that matched the bullet that killed the kid biker and Jesses girl

I mean, if he gave them up and they found all that, couldnt he make a deal where he wouldnt get jail time? Plus if he was able to hide his money he would be able to keep that as well.

Obviously that isnt whats happening but Im trying to find a way where it wouldnt work and I cant find any.

For some reason I see this crazy ending where he saves Jesse and they are somehow able to kill all the bikers and it ends with the 2 of them waiting for the cops, sharing a ricin cigarette. But that tea drinking bitch has to somehow die first.

I don't even think he has to turn himself in, just point the DEA at the Nazi's , once they find all the shit you listed, they might just assume they've found Hiesenburg.

[sailor]

What's so bad about Lydia that she needs to die? I don't recall anything that horrible (I'm sure I've just forgotten).

[JimBeam]

What's so bad about Lydia that she needs to die? I don't recall anything that horrible (I'm sure I've just forgotten).

For starters she planned to have Mike killed but he turned the tables on his partner.

She arranged for Decaln and his crew to be killed.

She wants Skyler dead.

[newport king]

Lydia is the coldest bitch on the planet

[deliciousV]

For starters she planned to have Mike killed but he turned the tables on his partner.

She arranged for Decaln and his crew to be killed.

She wants Skyler dead.

well to be fair, a lot of people have wanted Skyler dead for some time now, she's gone down hill since she let Walt bang her in the car.

[sailor]

For starters she planned to have Mike killed but he turned the tables on his partner.

She arranged for Decaln and his crew to be killed.

She wants Skyler dead.

The same mike that Walt killed. Declan, who cares. Skylar, good.

In shows like this you only worry about people doing bad shit to people you care about. Like gus front could have killed all the Mexicans in the world and no one gave a fuck. It's not that they're bad people, it's that they're bad people to characters you LIKE.

[JimBeam]

Walt killed Mike spur of the moment in an emotional incident.

She schemed to have Mike killed by his own guy.

She's a cold hearted buisness woman.

As much as I want both her and Todd dead I have a feeling she might survive.

[sailor]

Walt killed Mike spur of the moment in an emotional incident.

She schemed to have Mike killed by his own guy.

She's a cold hearted buisness woman.

As much as I want both her and Todd dead I have a feeling she might survive.

Todd much more likely and deserving of getting killed.

[Dirtbag]

I have a feeling Walt ends up turning himself in to try to get Skylar off but not until after he finishes business with the neo Nazis and the Schwartz's.

[TripleSkeet]

The same mike that Walt killed. Declan, who cares. Skylar, good.

In shows like this you only worry about people doing bad shit to people you care about. Like gus front could have killed all the Mexicans in the world and no one gave a fuck. It's not that they're bad people, it's that they're bad people to characters you LIKE.

No see I dont have a problem when people get killed that I see as having it coming. If Walt dies in the finale it wont bother me that much because of the way he treated Jesse and for the way he turned him in at the end of the shootout.

I did not want Mike dead. I didnt want Hank dead. Skyler I do but shes just the worst. Lydias a snake and that kid Todd has the emotion of a serial killer. No matter what happens those 2 have to die.

[Jujubees2]

I think Lydia, Todd and the neo-Nazis get taken down by their greed. Todd's uncle questioned in this week's episode why they are still cooking since they "hit the mother lode". But Todd told him they could make hundreds of millions because he wants to please Lydia. Then Lydia was ready to put things on hold until Todd told her it was 92% (but he later told Jesse it was 96%).

I think Walt returns to save Jesse and get back on his good side by killing the neo-Nazis (maybe with ricin cigarettes) and getting his money back before turning himself in.

[thepaulo]

I think Lydia, Todd and the neo-Nazis get taken down by their greed. Todd's uncle questioned in this week's episode why they are still cooking since they "hit the mother lode". But Todd told him they could make hundreds of millions because he wants to please Lydia. Then Lydia was ready to put things on hold until Todd told her it was 92% (but he later told Jesse it was 96%).

I think Walt returns to save Jesse and get back on his good side by killing the neo-Nazis (maybe with ricin cigarettes) and getting his money back before turning himself in.

That ending is wishful thinking but it would be awesome if that's how it ended.
I love happy endings (I'm talking to you Dexter)(As well as you too, Jujubees2).

[Pitdoc]

That ending is wishful thinking but it would be awesome if that's how it ended.
I love happy endings (I'm talking to you Dexter)(As well as you too, Jujubees2).

Dexter had a happy ending?? It BLEW!!!!!!

[newport king]

Can someone tell me why Saul opted out? Was his life in danger, or was it because he figured shit would hit the fan being Walts lawyer?

[newport king]

Watching the marathon. God i hate Flynn. What a shitty son.

[Kevin]

Can someone tell me why Saul opted out? Was his life in danger, or was it because he figured shit would hit the fan being Walts lawyer?

Yea basically being Walts Lawyer he knew they would come after him to get to Walt..

[deliciousV]

can't wait until Meth Damon dies, creepy fucker

[cougarjake13]

so how'd it end ?

[thepaulo]

Badfinger's Baby Blue

[deliciousV]

so how'd it end ?

everybody died in a smoking crater that use to be a meth lab, when the smoke cleared Bill Burr was standing there wearing the Heisenburg hat and bitching about the banking system.

(I totally stole that, but it was funny enough to steal, so that's something)

[underdog]

That was a fantastic ending. One of the best series finales.

[deliciousV]

That was a fantastic ending. One of the best series finales.

finally, a show that knows how to end.

[Kevin]

After the pile of shit Dexter Ending, this one did not disappoint.

Great way to end a great show.


Also

The last episode of Breaking Bad is episode #62.
The 62nd element on the periodic table is samarium,
which is one of the primary drugs used in treating lung cancer.

[KnoxHarrington]

can't wait until Meth Damon dies, creepy fucker

It was perfect that Walt allowed Jesse to kill creepy ass Todd.

And I also love that Walt got to tell Lydia that she had just drunk a whole shitload of ricin.

[sailor]

It was perfect that Walt allowed Jesse to kill creepy ass Todd.

And I also love that Walt got to tell Lydia that she had just drunk a whole shitload of ricin.

Funny Jesse was like the only criminal to live since they apparently planned to kill the character off in the first season.

[Kevin]

Funny Jesse was like the only criminal to live since they apparently planned to kill the character off in the first season.

That woulda been real stupid.

BITCH!

[PapaBear]

Badfinger's Baby Blue

Fuck a bunch of Journey!

That was a fantastic ending. One of the best series finales.
It really was a terrific ending. Walt looked so blissful in death.

[fezident]

9,762,000 buys a shit load b-b-breakfast.

[newport king]

Wow.

[newport king]

I cant believe Badger and Skinny Pete made off with more money than Jesse at the end of it all.

[fezident]

What's up with Aaron Paul's face?
(that actor... not the character)

He's put on some weight. There's a puffiness to it.
I'm rather surprised that the producers of the show allowed him to gain the weight, as there are so many flashbacks and re-created/simulated flashbacks. Strange.


Also:
does anybody have a problem with the fact that Walk eventually morphed into MacGuyver? He was a chemistry teacher. Yes... he was rather smart. But... as the seasons progressed, he became more and more crafty. He could slip in and out of any room, regardless of surveillance. He was able to escape when his hand was handcuffed to the radiator. He built an automatic weapon apparatus in his trunk that was so elaborate... it borders on science fiction. He always knows where the cops are. What they're thinking. What their next move was going to be.
I loooooved the show.
But if it continued.... I'm sure it would've gotten completely ridiculous.

[newport king]

Id rather him be handy than say, i dont know, a lumberjack.

[JimBeam]

You obvioulsy had to suspend disbelief in some manner in order to get a clean ending.

I don't think the garage door gun holder was that much of a stretch as a concept.

I mean no way in hell it works in reality but it was better than him barging into the place holding ala Rambo.

I loved that ending even if it was melodramatic and very 80s action movie-like.

My only probelm is Jack, Lydia and Todd didn't suffer enough.

And as I stated all along Todd was no geniyus mastermind.

He was a tool in way over his head.

As 7+ Nazis get killed he looks out the window and says " Wow Mr White. "

I loved the use of Badger and Skinny Pete. Good stuff.

Very satisfying ending that left me content.

[styckx]

I enjoyed the finale but the plot once the "Club House" became the center of the episode was forced a bit and some stuff just a little too convenient. I didn't like how Pinkman was just "fetched" to rub him in Walts face as not being a partner.. To kill him in front of Walt.. Sure.. But to rub it in his face that he was a slave??? Made no sense.. It was just a little too convenient that Todd lived through the machine gun fire so Pinkman could kill him. Same goes for the old man so Walt could kill him..

And yes.. You had to squint a bit to make the machine gun contraption believable.

[TripleSkeet]

I was completely satisfied. Thats all I ask in an ending to a series I like. They didnt dissapoint.

[sailor]

I was completely satisfied. Thats all I ask in an ending to a series I like. They didnt dissapoint.

Yeah, some people I peripherally know hated it. I don't get those people.

[fezident]

I was thrilled to see that Walt didn't get away it.... that his wife didn't take him back... that his son didn't forgive him... etc.
That's refreshing.
That's LIFE!!

[JimBeam]

On the unbelievable front also was him getting from NH to NM in a stolen car while being hunted.

Oh and Jack died like the dirty deal breaker he was.

Just wished Walt had tourtured him a bit.

[sailor]

On the unbelievable front also was him getting from NH to NM in a stolen car while being hunted.

Oh and Jack died like the dirty deal breaker he was.

Just wished Walt had tourtured him a bit.

The jack & Jesse thing bothered me a little. Walt called jack a liar for keeping Jesse alive and guessed wrongly they were partners. Jack brings Jesse out to show they're not partners but thinks that somehow proves he wasn't a liar. It only proved he was alive and back was indeed a liar.

[JimBeam]

I can see where Jack was trying to rationalize but not sure why a blood thirsty Nazi would think he'd have anything to prove to Walt.

But I can also see how Jack does feel that he double crossed him so felt the urge to " explain ".

[underdog]

On the unbelievable front also was him getting from NH to NM in a stolen car while being hunted.

Oh and Jack died like the dirty deal breaker he was.

Just wished Walt had tourtured him a bit.

I think the more unbelievable thing is that he was that hunted. How many DEA agents get shot , but the killers' pictures aren't all over the tvs. Some drug dealer isn't going to make enough national news that everyone would be looking for him.

But I enjoyed it.

[Dirtbag]

Walt wasn't "some drug dealer." He was the meth kingpin of the Southwest. And once the media got a hold of his story, I can easily imagine him being a huge story. Or at the very least mentioned on the national news.

[deliciousV]

Walt wasn't "some drug dealer." He was the meth kingpin of the Southwest. And once the media got a hold of his story, I can easily imagine him being a huge story. Or at the very least mentioned on the national news.

I agree, with his backstory and the Heisenberg reputation, he makes for a hell of a national story. Chem teacher turned meth kingpin. Diane Sawyer's panties would be squishy on the 6:30 news.

[sailor]

I agree, with his backstory and the Heisenberg reputation, he makes for a hell of a national story. Chem teacher turned meth kingpin. Diane Sawyer's panties would be squishy on the 6:30 news.

Not to mention his tie to gray matter and their recent publicity tour.

[Kevin]

The jack & Jesse thing bothered me a little. Walt called jack a liar for keeping Jesse alive and guessed wrongly they were partners. Jack brings Jesse out to show they're not partners but thinks that somehow proves he wasn't a liar. It only proved he was alive and back was indeed a liar.

I think he wanted to show him that they fucked up him and made him cook. an d they were not partners.

[sailor]

I think he wanted to show him that they fucked up him and made him cook. an d they were not partners.

That's a given. But he was saying look Jesse is our slave, I'm not a liar. Jesse being alive proved he WAS a liar.

[Dell]

I agree, with his backstory and the Heisenberg reputation, he makes for a hell of a national story. Chem teacher turned meth kingpin. Diane Sawyer's panties would be squishy on the 6:30 news.

shoot...my panties were squishy with that story line

just watched the finale and I have zero complaints...wrapped things up in a way that didn't feel forced or artificial at all (very different than the Dexter finale)

[thepaulo]

Badfinger's Baby Blue


Great band with a sad double suicide.

http://music-mix.ew.com/2013/09/30/badfinger-breaking-bad/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badfinger

[Kevin]

That's a given. But he was saying look Jesse is our slave, I'm not a liar. Jesse being alive proved he WAS a liar.

Meh... Its a low life criminal who thinks he is honorable because he let Walt have SOME of the money he stole from him...

So he is not really the type to make any sense...

[Furtherman]

Perfect ending to a perfect show.


And Huell still sits in the safe house....waiting for Hank and Gomez.

[smiler grogan]

That's a given. But he was saying look Jesse is our slave, I'm not a liar. Jesse being alive proved he WAS a liar.

Jack was going to kill Walt anyway. He wanted to show Walt that he didn't partner with a rat. He kept Jesse alive as a slave to force him to cook. Jack didn't care about lying to Walt but he did care that Walt thought he partnered up with a rat.

[newport king]

Jack was an honorable aryan

[OGC]

The jack & Jesse thing bothered me a little. Walt called jack a liar for keeping Jesse alive and guessed wrongly they were partners. Jack brings Jesse out to show they're not partners but thinks that somehow proves he wasn't a liar. It only proved he was alive and back was indeed a liar.

It wasn't about calling Jack a liar, or Jack not killing Jesse. I'm sure Walt was happy in the end that Jesse was alive. It was about getting Jesse into the room so that Walt could tackle him to the ground and press the button to start the machine gun. It was an added bonus that Jesse got to strangle Meth Damon (a prefect name) with the chain.

If Walt wanted Jesse dead, he had a perfect chance to make it happen but letting him stand when the machine gun started.

[sailor]

Jack was going to kill Walt anyway. He wanted to show Walt that he didn't partner with a rat. He kept Jesse alive as a slave to force him to cook. Jack didn't care about lying to Walt but he did care that Walt thought he partnered up with a rat.

He specifically kept saying he was not a liar, unless I'm totally off.

[sailor]

It wasn't about calling Jack a liar, or Jack not killing Jesse. I'm sure Walt was happy in the end that Jesse was alive. It was about getting Jesse into the room so that Walt could tackle him to the ground and press the button to start the machine gun. It was an added bonus that Jesse got to strangle Meth Damon (a prefect name) with the chain.

If Walt wanted Jesse dead, he had a perfect chance to make it happen but letting him stand when the machine gun started.

All true. I was talking specifically about what Jack was saying, not Walt's motivations or words.

[realmenhatelife]

I agree, a good ending. Walt has to come clean that he hasn't really been about his family this whole time, he gets some of what he wants but not everything. It was kindof like the ending of Bridesmaids.

One thing I appreciate about the finale is aside from Walt dying this would've felt correct as any other episode. It isn't time for wacky out of continuity stuff to happen because it's the last episode. Walt had a problem and was able to solve it through planning, and what dies a somewhat ambivilant character.

[Dirtbag]

It wasn't about calling Jack a liar, or Jack not killing Jesse. I'm sure Walt was happy in the end that Jesse was alive. It was about getting Jesse into the room so that Walt could tackle him to the ground and press the button to start the machine gun. It was an added bonus that Jesse got to strangle Meth Damon (a prefect name) with the chain.

If Walt wanted Jesse dead, he had a perfect chance to make it happen but letting him stand when the machine gun started.

Walt did want Jesse dead. His original intention was to get Jesse into that room so he'd get blown away with the rest of them. But after seeing what Jack had done with Jesse Walt changed his mind.

[Kevin]

Walt did want Jesse dead. His original intention was to get Jesse into that room so he'd get blown away with the rest of them. But after seeing what Jack had done with Jesse Walt changed his mind.



I don't think so. As evil as Walt was he still had a love for his family. As convoluted as it was. He made sure JR got his money instead of killing the two ex business partners. Made sure he did everything he could to help Skyler off the hook. And still had a sorta paternal feeling towards Jessie even though it all.

[smiler grogan]

He specifically kept saying he was not a liar, unless I'm totally off.


Yeah he did. I think he wanted to gloat about what he did to Jesse before he killed Walt. That's my take, yes he kept Jesse alive but not as a partner.

[Jujubees2]

Perfect ending to a perfect show.


And Huell still sits in the safe house....waiting for Hank and Gomez.

Good thing he has the body type where he can afford to skip a few meals...

[Dirtbag]

I don't think so. As evil as Walt was he still had a love for his family. As convoluted as it was. He made sure JR got his money instead of killing the two ex business partners. Made sure he did everything he could to help Skyler off the hook. And still had a sorta paternal feeling towards Jessie even though it all.

Walt had gotten past that when he put the hit out on Jesse in the first place. Nothing happened in the interim to change that and then he gets back to NM and discovers that Jesse is still cooking his product. If Walt's intention to leave Jesse alive he wouldn't have brought him up at all. If he wasn't in that room he wasn't going to be killed.

[TripleSkeet]

Walt had gotten past that when he put the hit out on Jesse in the first place. Nothing happened in the interim to change that and then he gets back to NM and discovers that Jesse is still cooking his product. If Walt's intention to leave Jesse alive he wouldn't have brought him up at all. If he wasn't in that room he wasn't going to be killed.

I think he originally was pissed about what had happened to Hank and wanted Jesse dead. But when he saw that they were keeping him as a slave forcing him to cook meth for them he honestly had a change of heart. I mean he looks at him in those chains and he just has this mournful look before he tackles him so he doesnt get shot.

[TripleSkeet]

It wasn't about calling Jack a liar, or Jack not killing Jesse. I'm sure Walt was happy in the end that Jesse was alive. It was about getting Jesse into the room so that Walt could tackle him to the ground and press the button to start the machine gun. It was an added bonus that Jesse got to strangle Meth Damon (a prefect name) with the chain.

If Walt wanted Jesse dead, he had a perfect chance to make it happen but letting him stand when the machine gun started.

I dont think it was about getting Jesse in the room at all. It was about buying time so he could get that keychain before the nazis murdered him.

[fezident]

Walt was angry with Jesse for partnering up with the Nazis. He would have been happy to kill Jesse, at the point.
Walt was stalling for time when he said "you owe me for Jesse Pinkman".

When the Nazi's brought up Jesse, Walt was surprised and hurt to see how Jesse had been treated. Also... he could tell from Jesse's face that Jesse wanted to die. It was only a few hours (a day) before that Jesse yelled at the Nazis to "do it!" when the had guns pointed at him. Jesse was defeated, and Walt felt sorry for his former friend.
Hence... he jumped on Jesse and protected him from the automated gun fire.

This turned out to be for the best. If he never stalled for time by mentioning Jesse... the Nazis never would've brought him upstairs. In which case... Jesse would've died down below. He would've remained locked up on his leash until he quietly starved to death. All alone.

[Kevin]

I would think the part you would have the biggest problem with is billionaires who were just on TV having what seemed to be zero security... Especially with a madman who they just insulted, on the loose

[Kevin]

Bah.double post

[sailor]

Bah.double post

Good point. Didn't even lock the door.

[cougarjake13]

Walt was angry with Jesse for partnering up with the Nazis. He would have been happy to kill Jesse, at the point.
Walt was stalling for time when he said "you owe me for Jesse Pinkman".

When the Nazi's brought up Jesse, Walt was surprised and hurt to see how Jesse had been treated. Also... he could tell from Jesse's face that Jesse wanted to die. It was only a few hours (a day) before that Jesse yelled at the Nazis to "do it!" when the had guns pointed at him. Jesse was defeated, and Walt felt sorry for his former friend.
Hence... he jumped on Jesse and protected him from the automated gun fire.

This turned out to be for the best. If he never stalled for time by mentioning Jesse... the Nazis never would've brought him upstairs. In which case... Jesse would've died down below. He would've remained locked up on his leash until he quietly starved to death. All alone.


the cops showed up
so wouldn't they have let him free? or at least unchained him so he didn't starve and die ?

[thepaulo]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/30/breaking-bad-finale-bryan-cranston-aaron-paul/

From the horses mouth

[realmenhatelife]

Norm Mcdonald is passing off some buzzfeed level balonium about the second half of the Breaking Bad finale is Walts post death fantasy. He dies when he's inside the snowy car, either shot by police or from his illness. Everything that follows is his fantasy because it all works out too perfectly.


This is obviously bullshit because Walt obtains information we know is true after his 'death.' Most obviously Walt discovers that Jesse is a prisoner of Jack's, which he would have no way of knowing if he had died in New Hampshire.

Further, if it's his fantasy, why does Walt Jr still hate him and why does he fantasize about scenes he's not in? Like Marie warning Skylar that Walt has been spotted around town.

[sailor]

Norm Mcdonald is passing off some buzzfeed level balonium about the second half of the Breaking Bad finale is Walts post death fantasy. He dies when he's inside the snowy car, either shot by police or from his illness. Everything that follows is his fantasy because it all works out too perfectly.


This is obviously bullshit because Walt obtains information we know is true after his 'death.' Most obviously Walt discovers that Jesse is a prisoner of Jack's, which he would have no way of knowing if he had died in New Hampshire.

Further, if it's his fantasy, why does Walt Jr still hate him and why does he fantasize about scenes he's not in? Like Marie warning Skylar that Walt has been spotted around town.

Agreed, but he was in the phone call scene.

[realmenhatelife]

Agreed, but he was in the phone call scene.

In what regards?

[sailor]

In what regards?

She hung up and he was standing there?

[CountryBob]

Never watched Breaking Bad - I think Im gonna start...

[realmenhatelife]

She hung up and he was standing there?

Oh right, good call. I'm thinking of the shots of Marie not of Skylar.

[realmenhatelife]

Never watched Breaking Bad - I think Im gonna start...

I think you'll be hard pressed to find someone that's seen it and doesn't recommend it.

[thepaulo]

Never watched Breaking Bad - I think Im gonna start...

But it's done spoiled.

[deliciousV]

But it's done spoiled.

no it's not, it's aging like a fine wine.

[fezident]

the cops showed up
so wouldn't they have let him free? or at least unchained him so he didn't starve and die ?

Good point.
I hadn't thought of that.

You're right. He'd have lived. (although.. he would've gone to jail... which totally superstinks.)

[newport king]

Norm Mcdonald is passing off some buzzfeed level balonium about the second half of the Breaking Bad finale is Walts post death fantasy. He dies when he's inside the snowy car, either shot by police or from his illness. Everything that follows is his fantasy because it all works out too perfectly.


This is obviously bullshit because Walt obtains information we know is true after his 'death.' Most obviously Walt discovers that Jesse is a prisoner of Jack's, which he would have no way of knowing if he had died in New Hampshire.

Further, if it's his fantasy, why does Walt Jr still hate him and why does he fantasize about scenes he's not in? Like Marie warning Skylar that Walt has been spotted around town.


Read into his theory. It makes some sense like the snow covered car and the Stevia being unopened. Might go back and watch it again.

[CountryBob]

But it's done spoiled.

I haven't read any of the previous posts and actually don't know thing about it

[deliciousV]

I haven't read any of the previous posts and actually don't know thing about it

you should be busy watching season 1 right now.

[Jujubees2]

Read into his theory. It makes some sense like the snow covered car and the Stevia being unopened. Might go back and watch it again.

Didn't Walt give to Schwartz' $9 million dollars when he only was given one barrel by Jack in the desert (which I thought they said at the time was something over a million)?

[sailor]

Didn't Walt give to Schwartz' $9 million dollars when he only was given one barrel by Jack in the desert (which I thought they said at the time was something over a million)?

A lot more than that. 80 mill or so spread over the barrels. 10-11.4 mill, depending on whether there were 7 or 8 (I don't recall, but I thought they said he had like 11 mill).

[KnoxHarrington]

A lot more than that. 80 mill or so spread over the barrels. 10-11.4 mill, depending on whether there were 7 or 8 (I don't recall, but I thought they said he had like 11 mill).

Yeah, they established that there was about 11 million or so per barrel. And I'm sure Walt had plenty of time to count it in that shitty cabin in New Hampshire.

I actually thought the most badass moment of the finale came after the Nazi gang got mowed down, and Jack tells Walt that if he kills him, he'll never learn where his money is...and Walt doesn't even let Jack finish his sentence before popping a cap in him. He's so beyond caring about all that shit anymore. He is just about vengeance at that point. He has become death.

[realmenhatelife]

Yeah, they established that there was about 11 million or so per barrel. And I'm sure Walt had plenty of time to count it in that shitty cabin in New Hampshire.

I actually thought the most badass moment of the finale came after the Nazi gang got mowed down, and Jack tells Walt that if he kills him, he'll never learn where his money is...and Walt doesn't even let Jack finish his sentence before popping a cap in him. He's so beyond caring about all that shit anymore. He is just about vengeance at that point. He has become death.

I think that also comes from finally being able to admit his ultimate motivation. When Walt was still lying to himself about doing everything for his family he probably would've tried to get the money back, rationalizing that it will be an extra layer of protection for them. But now he just wants to best his enemies and exert his power. The only way to trump Jack stealing $80 million is to take his life. I dont even think that was about revenge, I think it was about clarity. You're willing to pay literally any price to keep living so I will demonstrate my power over you by throwing away whatever you offer. My satisfaction is the whole of the law. Like Flannery teaches us "You cant be any poorer than dead."

[fezident]

Breaking Bad was just so fucking good.
My best friend is just now watching it for the first time. He's about 8 episodes in to the first season... and he texts me every once in a while to say "this show is amazing!". I'm actually a bit jealous of him. I wish I could go back and see it for he first time again.... having to wait a full week before seeing how the writers handled something.
What a masterpiece.
There aren't too many shows that hold up.
LOST was a show that I was equally passionate about, but... the whole experience was soured by that show's lack of internal logic.

Breaking Bad could & should be studied by aspiring writers and directors. It holds up.

[CountryBob]

I just made it to the next to last episode of season 2 and I am sad to see Jessee's chick die on H.
Walt standing there knowing that if she dies the ability for her to tell on him and also enabling Jessee will die as well. it was a powerful moment for me. :down:

And she was a cutie!