Ron and Fez Listening Thread 12/19/13 - Hibernation

[realmenhatelife]

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Nearly ready for a long winter's nap, but not quite!

[realmenhatelife]

Kid was the weaker rapper of the two by far.

[realmenhatelife]

Jeez o pete do you think Ron likes Blue Apron? I cant tell by how often it comes up.

[realmenhatelife]

Fez said neologism yesterday? Good for him.

[Dell]

moaning buddays...:bye:

just out of a meeting and on 15 minute delay...is Fezzie in the room or "over here, behind the glass"

[Dell]

I will be fast forwarding when Fez talks about Phil Robertson...don't want to hear that

[Dell]

I'm surprised Fez risked giving Ron a sore throat by going to his place last night...:wink:

[Dell]

ah sweet...4iar

[realmenhatelife]

Yeah it sounds like Fez is healthy and in the room.

[LeedsJr]

Yeah it sounds like Fez is healthy and in the room.

Sounds pretty froggy to me.

[LeedsJr]

I will be fast forwarding when Fez talks about Phil Robertson...don't want to hear that


Woo-hoo!

Re-dedicated Fez!

No more bringing negativity to the show!

Or, you know, not.

[Dell]

Woo-hoo!

Re-dedicated Fez!

No more bringing negativity to the show!

Or, you know, not.

on delay...is it happening now?

[LeedsJr]

on delay...is it happening now?

Yep. Persecuted, angry, unfunny Fez.

[Chunky White Guy]

Fezzie - jumping in with a quick zinger.... but if he thinks vaginas look like Phil Robertson's face its no wonder he's afraid of them!

[realmenhatelife]

Ron did set up this topic though, which is odd. Fez didn't bring it up.

[Misteriosa]

hey buddays :o

Ron did set up this topic though, which is odd. Fez didn't bring it up.

caller dropped a spy report about the duck dynasty guy

[thepaulo]

Woo-hoo!

Re-dedicated Fez!

No more bringing negativity to the show!

Or, you know, not.

Aside from the Scrooged trivia is he doing okay overall because I need to send Ron some kind of assessment.

[sailor]

Ron did set up this topic though, which is odd. Fez didn't bring it up.

It's a big story. If the show had no viewers, fez would be the only one talking about it.

[Misteriosa]

Aside from the Scrooged trivia is he doing okay overall because I need to send Ron some kind of assessment.

he seems to still be riding the high from last night's dinner party at ron's.

[sailor]

I don't think he said it was a gateway thing, fez.

[sailor]

Do people watch it like a sort of redneck jersey shore?

[realmenhatelife]

We're not legislating nothing, Ron. This is a purely commercial matter.




Now consider this. This show is scripted and presented as reality. A&E, in a way, owns this guys real life.

[Chunky White Guy]

I'm 100% with Ron on that field prayer bullshit.... if the cameras weren't there, they wouldn't bother

[Chunky White Guy]

Get em' Fez!!!!!

[PapaBear]

Now consider this. This show is scripted and presented as reality. A&E, in a way, owns this guys real life.
This is what's silly about these shows. If it was actual "reality" would that mean that he is suspended from his family?

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070528231405/familyguy/images/thumb/d/d5/2ACX08.png/570px-2ACX08.png

[Dell]

when grazing or resting, cows tend to align their bodies with the magnetic north and south poles...#980

[realmenhatelife]

But conservatives do boycott liberal shit, I dont understand this analogy about Little Steven.

They boycotted The Butler because Jane Fonda was in it.

[Dell]

We're not legislating nothing, Ron. This is a purely commercial matter.




Now consider this. This show is scripted and presented as reality. A&E, in a way, owns this guys real life.

maybe two "reality" shows aren't scripted...MAYBE

if that means the situations are scripted and lines are not...however, I do know of a couple reality shows where they even write their lines (e.g., Hardcore Pawn)

[Dell]

But conservatives do boycott liberal shit, I dont understand this analogy about Little Steven.

They boycotted The Butler because Jane Fonda was in it.

your "they" for conservatives reminds me of when we say all blacks support Al Sharpton...my parents are ultra conservatives and didn't boycott Jane Fonda

[realmenhatelife]

maybe two "reality" shows aren't scripted...MAYBE

if that means the situations are scripted and lines are not...however, I do know of a couple reality shows where they even write their lines (e.g., Hardcore Pawn)

From what I understand they take old Cosby Show plots and build Duck Dynasty off of them. That sounds like a joke but it's not.

[realmenhatelife]

your "they" for conservatives reminds me of when we say all blacks support Al Sharpton...my parents are ultra conservatives and didn't boycott Jane Fonda

I meant some conservatives. Ron was making it sound like this is a 'liberal problem.'

[Misteriosa]

... out of which will come a conglomerated, mulatto, MONGREL class of people! both sides will be destroyed!

:o

[Dell]

DAMN...I hit LIVE and they are still talking about Duck Dynasty

Someone let me know when they move to the next topic...thanks

[thepaulo]

Aside from the Scrooged trivia is he doing okay overall because I need to send Ron some kind of assessment.

I'm going to do this in the next hour. If you have any suggestions, now is the time.

[realmenhatelife]

DAMN...I hit LIVE and they are still talking about Duck Dynasty

Someone let me know when they move to the next topic...thanks

Maybe when they move they'll stop having this one conversation.










And I thought the racial shit was way worse than the gay stuff, atleast in terms of stupidity.

[realmenhatelife]

I'm going to do this in the next hour. If you have any suggestions, now is the time.

More fiber, couldn't hurt.

[Chunky White Guy]

Way to shut him the fuck up, Fezzie.... well said. I still think you have a blind spot regarding the hyprocritical argument, but way to stand up and jump in!

[thepaulo]

Way to shut him the fuck up, Fezzie.... well said. I still think you have a blind spot regarding the hyprocritical argument, but way to stand up and jump in!

Good to know.

[Dell]

I'm going to do this in the next hour. If you have any suggestions, now is the time.

your carney hand is weak...I ain't buying it

[hanso]

Boy did this topic open a can o worms

[thepaulo]

your carney hand is weak...I ain't buying it

Crap, I thought you was a rube.

[realmenhatelife]

Yeah caller but no one is giving a show to muslims and if they did it wouldn't have 11 million viewers. Idiotic point.

[PapaBear]

Do people watch it like a sort of redneck jersey shore?
I've never seen either show, but this is what I gather from what I've seen on media about the two shows. In DD, they did a show about a family of rednecks who are rich, which gives them the opportunity to do crazy redneck stuff without limit. In JS, they gave a bunch of Jersey white trash kids unlimited funds, so they can do crazy Jersey white trash stuff without limit.

[Dell]

I've never seen either show, but this is what I gather from what I've seen on media about the two shows. In DD, they did a show about a family of rednecks who are rich, which gives them the opportunity to do crazy redneck stuff without limit. In JS, they gave a bunch of Jersey white trash kids unlimited funds, so they can do crazy Jersey white trash stuff without limit.

I watch DD but never watched an episode of JS...excellent summary of DD for someone that hasn't seen the show

[hanso]

Yeah caller but no one is giving a show to muslims and if they did it wouldn't have 11 million viewers. Idiotic point.

There are some.

[PapaBear]

I watch DD but never watched an episode of JS...excellent summary of DD for someone that hasn't seen the show
My role model is Paul O.


I keed, I keed! Love you, Paul!

[Dell]

"burka propaganda"...:laugh:

[Misteriosa]

i thought it was putting on flowing, loose fitting clothes that keeps you cooler and not layering

[hanso]

Holly rollers and gun nuts calling in this is great.

[PapaBear]

i thought it was putting on flowing, loose fitting clothes that keeps you cooler and not layering
You are correct. Light, loose fitting clothing that protects you from the sun. Layering is for warmth.

[thepaulo]

I've never seen either show, but this is what I gather from what I've seen on media about the two shows. In DD, they did a show about a family of rednecks who are rich, which gives them the opportunity to do crazy redneck stuff without limit. In JS, they gave a bunch of Jersey white trash kids unlimited funds, so they can do crazy Jersey white trash stuff without limit.

Why can't people give me a bunch of cash so I can do what I do without limit?

[realmenhatelife]

i thought it was putting on flowing, loose fitting clothes that keeps you cooler and not layering

They should stress light colors and natural fibers, too.

[PapaBear]

Why can't people give me a bunch of cash so I can do what I do without limit?
I think the reality show formula would call for a family or group of PaulOs, for that to work. I'd watch it, though.

[realmenhatelife]

I think the reality show formula would call for a family or group of PaulOs, for that to work. I'd watch it, though.

Called Fuck Dynasty.

[jennysmurf]

I think the reality show formula would call for a family or group of PaulOs, for that to work. I'd watch it, though.

Is a group of PaulO's called a "murder?"

[Dell]

please start talking about Screw magazine...anything but the gay

[Dell]

Is a group of PaulO's called a "murder?"

no, that's why he's alone...

[hanso]

Why can't people give me a bunch of cash so I can do what I do without limit?

Gap the series.

[Chunky White Guy]

I'm thoroughly enjoying all these lame-ass callers dialing in assuming they're lined up to take an easy pot-shot at Fez only to be humbled by his immediate and coherent comeback....! Even if I think he's off-base, its awesome to see some confidence and wit coming through!:clap:

[Dell]

I strongly believe the old Fez would have had us rolling by now with an all-out humorous attack on rednecks...I miss old Fez

[PapaBear]

Is a group of PaulO's called a "murder?"
Congratulations! You just made me happier than Dude! did (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3098791#post3098791).

[hanso]

Last caller sounded like the guy from Stern show with the same name.

[thepaulo]

Is a group of PaulO's called a "murder?"

I'm not a crow.

[Dell]

I'm thoroughly enjoying all these lame-ass callers dialing in assuming they're lined up to take an easy pot-shot at Fez only to be humbled by his immediate and coherent comeback....! Even if I think he's off-base, its awesome to see some confidence and wit coming through!:clap:

by "wit" you are definitely not implying funny...

[thepaulo]

I'm thoroughly enjoying all these lame-ass callers dialing in assuming they're lined up to take an easy pot-shot at Fez only to be humbled by his immediate and coherent comeback....! Even if I think he's off-base, its awesome to see some confidence and wit coming through!:clap:

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

You're the only one who's worth anything.

[jennysmurf]

Congratulations! You just made me happier than Dude! did (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3098791#post3098791).

His line was funny, but I don't know how I feel about being grouped with Dude.

[LeedsJr]

please start talking about Screw magazine...anything but the gay


I'm beginning to think they are going to dedicate the entire show to this topic. :wallbash:

[sailor]

Fuck, they're still on about this all?

[jennysmurf]

Fuck, they're still on about this all?

Yeah. :glurps:

[PapaBear]

His line was funny, but I don't know how I feel about being grouped with Dude.
http://theboard.byu.edu/media/attached_files/r_115680/attempted-murder-crows.jpg

[Dell]

I'm beginning to think they are going to dedicate the entire show to this topic. :wallbash:

I'm starting to not like their new format...too much of the angry for me

[sailor]

I watch DD but never watched an episode of JS...excellent summary of DD for someone that hasn't seen the show

Spot on on JS as well.

[thepaulo]

His line was funny, but I don't know how I feel about being grouped with Dude.

I know.

[PapaBear]

Spot on on JS as well.
You do realize, I meant Jersey Shore, and not JennySmurf... Right? :smoke:

[LeedsJr]

You do realize, I meant Jersey Shore, and not JennySmurf... Right? :smoke:


OH SHIT! :laugh:

[realmenhatelife]

Sailor, have you never eaten at Hooters?

[Dell]

Sailor, have you never eaten at Hooters?

between them...

[sailor]

They should stress light colors and natural fibers, too.

They're gonna be fucked when it rains, Costanza.

[Dell]

my first time hearing "Backdoor Santa"...I think there was some word play happening

[deliciousV]

Yeah caller but no one is giving a show to muslims and if they did it wouldn't have 11 million viewers. Idiotic point.

you really are a big fan of having people fired for their opinions aren't you?

[sailor]

Is a group of PaulO's called a "murder?"

It was complications from surgery, dammit!

[PapaBear]

It was complications from surgery, dammit!
Wife-ectomy?

[hanso]

Lol I had a video game that kept playing this party hard song also.

[sailor]

Sailor, have you never eaten at Hooters?

Yes, why? Heck, we had a non-listening party there when r&f went to krock (with master po, bobo and mwac).

[realmenhatelife]

you really are a big fan of having people fired for their opinions aren't you?

I have no opinion on if they should be fired or not, I dont think A&E should be criticized for their business decisions especially by a bunch of people who have no monetary interest in it.

I dont watch the show, if I did watch the show I may choose to stop watching it based on these events. If the government tried to sanction them in some way I'd be 100% against it. Thats all.

I think people on both sides completely take leave of their senses in these situations and that annoys me. I'm more sympathetic to the gays in this case because I recognize the need for them to advocate in their position.

[PapaBear]

Yes, why? Heck, we had a non-listening party there when r&f went to krock (with master po, bobo and mwac).
I'm guessing he's going to say that their wings are breaded. But they aren't. They're battered.

[realmenhatelife]

Yes, why? Heck, we had a non-listening party there when r&f went to krock (with master po, bobo and mwac).

They bread their wings.

[PapaBear]

I'm guessing he's going to say that their wings are breaded. But they aren't. They're battered.

They bread their wings.
:bye:

[sailor]

I'm guessing he's going to say that their wings are breaded. But they aren't. They're battered.

I thought it would be that, but was confused as it was the other thread. Wondered what I'd written in here relating to them, but assume you're right.

[realmenhatelife]

:bye:

Really? I did not know that. I do prefer naked wings at hooters because they make you feel less like death later.

[Dell]

They bread their wings.


they have battered and "naked" (no batter) wings...at least, the last time I was at one (about 5 years ago)

[sailor]

Penn Gillette is at least part gay.

[PapaBear]

Penn Gillette is at least part gay.
All illusionist/magicians are.

[Dell]

Ready Richards...HA

[Dell]

All illusionist/magicians are.

magicians covers both...don't cave to the man

[Dell]

BTW, PapaBear...I've been looking at Winchester property. Any advice?

[PapaBear]

BTW, PapaBear...I've been looking at Winchester property. Any advice?
Buy in the county. Not the city limits.

Edit: And also look into the Eastern Panhandle of WV. Same area, but WAY cheaper.

[sailor]

magicians covers both...don't cave to the man

Magic is...ah, fuck it.

[deliciousV]

I have no opinion on if they should be fired or not, I dont think A&E should be criticized for their business decisions especially by a bunch of people who have no monetary interest in it.

I dont watch the show, if I did watch the show I may choose to stop watching it based on these events. If the government tried to sanction them in some way I'd be 100% against it. Thats all.

I think people on both sides completely take leave of their senses in these situations and that annoys me. I'm more sympathetic to the gays in this case because I recognize the need for them to advocate in their position.

I totally disagree, if this sort of thing happened only to celebrities then you would have a sound argument, the fact is these days pretty much everyone is subject to having their speech ruin them. Lots of people lose their jobs now for expressing an opinion on social media that offends someone. It's absolutely an emerging pattern that started with crybaby squeaky wheel fuckheads being taken serious by the broadcasting/entertainment industry. This should concern everyone, you'd have to be blind not to see the evolution of this. If we continue to let crybabies and special interest groups persecute anyone they please for their opinions then we will effectively give up free speech, without the government lifting a finger to cause it.

[Dell]

Buy in the county. Not the city limits.

I plan to keep a townhouse near the district and buy some acreage in Winchester County, so that works...thanks

[Dell]

I totally disagree, if this sort of thing happened only to celebrities then you would have a sound argument, the fact is these days pretty much everyone is subject to having their speech ruin them. Lots of people lose their jobs now for expressing an opinion on social media that offends someone. It's absolutely an emerging pattern that started with crybaby squeaky wheel fuckheads being taken serious by the broadcasting/entertainment industry. This should concern everyone, you'd have to be blind not to see the evolution of this. If we continue to let crybabies and special interest groups persecute anyone they please for their opinions then we will effectively give up free speech, without the government lifting a finger to cause it.

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/nuttyjawa/Guns/amen-brother.jpg

[deliciousV]

I plan to keep a townhouse near the district and buy some acreage in Winchester County, so that works...thanks

a place to store some side pussy?

[PapaBear]

I plan to keep a townhouse near the district and buy some acreage in Winchester County, so that works...thanks
Frederick County. Winchester is the city. Also, check into the details of the Metro expansions going on. They are bringing rail service to DC very close to the entire area. Soonest phase should be ready in 2014.

[Dell]

a place to store some side pussy?

I'm not going all madmen on this...just some retirement prep

[Misteriosa]

i always close the door behind me :o

[jennysmurf]

I plan to keep a townhouse near the district and buy some acreage in Winchester County, so that works...thanks

Look at moneybags over there! How you doin?

[realmenhatelife]

Ha, Ron is lording Marina Abromovic over Hicks when he TOTALLY got her name wrong. It's not Abromowitz.

[Dell]

our ESD getting all creative (and kind to himself)...

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/988839_789922324368204_1514882142_n.jpg

[realmenhatelife]

i always close the door behind me :o

Just like a lady.


Jenny, take note.



Although the first line that really got me from The Heat was Meghan McCarthy busting in on someone yelling "Who closes the door to take a shit?"

[jennysmurf]

Frederick County. Winchester is the city. Also, check into the details of the Metro expansions going on. They are bringing rail service to DC very close to the entire area. Soonest phase should be ready in 2014.

You should find him something, and demand a cut.

[Dell]

Look at moneybags over there! How you doin?

oh, I'm selling a house in Yorktown to pull off this plan...I mean, fine, how you doin?

[hanso]

Porky Pig tears up this blue Xmas song.

[jennysmurf]

Just like a lady.


Jenny, take note.

What are you trying to say, tough guy?:furious:

[jennysmurf]

a place to store some side pussy?

I'm not going all madmen on this...just some retirement prep

Nevermind. :innocent:

[realmenhatelife]

I totally disagree, if this sort of thing happened only to celebrities then you would have a sound argument, the fact is these days pretty much everyone is subject to having their speech ruin them. Lots of people lose their jobs now for expressing an opinion on social media that offends someone. It's absolutely an emerging pattern that started with crybaby squeaky wheel fuckheads being taken serious by the broadcasting/entertainment industry. This should concern everyone, you'd have to be blind not to see the evolution of this. If we continue to let crybabies and special interest groups persecute anyone they please for their opinions then we will effectively give up free speech, without the government lifting a finger to cause it.

I'm just talking about Duck Dynasty.


In the case of social media it's case by case. If your company has it in your contract that you can be held accountable, or you post a picture of yourself dressed as a bombing victim from a company computer or phone taken at your companies office then thats that in my mind. Social media is quasi public. It also can be made more private if you have a mind to do so.

But it fits into my profitability argument even more than a Duck Dynasty because atleast the guy on Duck Dynasty is directly tied into the success of that show, so he has an interest in the show being a hit. I could post all kinds of rotten shit that comes back on my company and my companies name has a lot more cache than I do. I'm damaging a brand I have no ownership of, and can completely walk away from in almost total anonymity. In a few months no one would remember my name but the damage has been done. So why would a company stand by me in that situation?

[realmenhatelife]

I also like going to a nice Christmas or Christmas Eve movie.




Oh jesus, gurian.

[realmenhatelife]

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/1144/440794-hollywoodmontrose_large.jpg


Ron the Window Dresser.

[deliciousV]

I'm just talking about Duck Dynasty.


In the case of social media it's case by case. If your company has it in your contract that you can be held accountable, or you post a picture of yourself dressed as a bombing victim from a company computer or phone taken at your companies office then thats that in my mind. Social media is quasi public. It also can be made more private if you have a mind to do so.

But it fits into my profitability argument even more than a Duck Dynasty because atleast the guy on Duck Dynasty is directly tied into the success of that show, so he has an interest in the show being a hit. I could post all kinds of rotten shit that comes back on my company and my companies name has a lot more cache than I do. I'm damaging a brand I have no ownership of, and can completely walk away from in almost total anonymity. In a few months no one would remember my name but the damage has been done. So why would a company stand by me in that situation?

so we all should be comfortable with the corporate world policing free speech? As long as they are doing it to protect the mighty dollar.
And in this case A&E has caved to a small special interest group, as is the norm these days, to their own detriment. There's a Facebook petition to boycott the network thats up to almost 600k in a very short time.
This idea that companies have the right might be true, but that doesn't make it right.

[LeedsJr]

so we all should be comfortable with the corporate world policing free speech? As long as they are doing it to protect the mighty dollar.
And in this case A&E has caved to a small special interest group, as is the norm these days, to their own detriment. There's a Facebook petition to boycott the network thats up to almost 600k in a very short time.
This idea that companies have the right might be true, but that doesn't make it right.


So, are you pro-union, or in favor of legislation to dictate what businesses can or can't discipline employees over?

[Misteriosa]

from hearing what fez's dad did with the family finances, do you think that it was related to his own hidden mental illness?

[Misteriosa]

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/1144/440794-hollywoodmontrose_large.jpg


Ron the Window Dresser.

how mundane... he is an artiste! :smoke:

[realmenhatelife]

so we all should be comfortable with the corporate world policing free speech? As long as they are doing it to protect the mighty dollar.
And in this case A&E has caved to a small special interest group, as is the norm these days, to their own detriment. There's a Facebook petition to boycott the network thats up to almost 600k in a very short time.
This idea that companies have the right might be true, but that doesn't make it right.

I'm just being pragmatic. My company has a dress code, if I show up to work out of dress code I can be disciplined which is something I've been made aware of as a term of my employment. That is a way that the company interferes with my freedom of expression for their own financial interests, but no one makes a big deal about that. If a company did not have a provision in place I dont think they should be able to discipline anyone.

I think people should direct their anger at A&E and not the special interest group. It's repressive to tell the special interest group that they need to forgo their offense and right to protest in order to protect the sensibility of the majority. Be mad just at A&E, those are the people who took the action.

[realmenhatelife]

how mundane... he is an artiste! :smoke:

Albert that bitch!

[Misteriosa]

fez's parents' house...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ljbLAuuIlyo/TgytNAd4spI/AAAAAAAAAF0/BwNzx3UahJA/s1600/IMG_3163.JPG

[deliciousV]

So, are you pro-union, or in favor of legislation to dictate what businesses can or can't discipline employees over?

No, I just think we all, as individuals need to realize that this thing has evolved since Rev Al used it to take down Imus, and now can be used on anyone for stating an opinion. We need to push back.
People need to stop pretending this isn't a free speech issue, because it sure the fuck is.

[disneyspy]

that guy's email was spot on, his wife is on the bitchy side

[Misteriosa]

ahh yes.. the all important details of the spring break call... :popcorn:

[Misteriosa]

that guy's email was spot on, his wife is on the bitchy side

yeah.. im going to have to concur...

[hanso]

This could be an ongoing segment for the show.

[Misteriosa]

uhh.. his parents dont have to ask you shit. its not like they are taking him to spend a week with thai lads. its fucking spring training with a dad and his son.

also she is paranoid

[hanso]

She is a nice lady who over pronounces her words

[disneyspy]

uhh.. his parents dont have to ask you shit. its not like they are taking him to spend a week with thai lads. its fucking spring training with a dad and his son.

ya and clearwater is a pretty tame place to see a spring training game.it's not like they're hanging out in ybor city

[LeedsJr]

No, I just think we all, as individuals need to realize that this thing has evolved since Rev Al used it to take down Imus, and now can be used on anyone for stating an opinion. We need to push back.
People need to stop pretending this isn't a free speech issue, because it sure the fuck is.


Sorry, but no, it isn't.
Your right to free speech is guaranteed against government action. That's it. Period.
If you want more protection than that, you need to organize enough people to get it codified as law.

[Misteriosa]

ahh so now it becomes clear... his parents arent nice to her so she wants to punish them but "not letting" the husband go.

[disneyspy]

She is a nice lady who over pronounces her words

OMG did you ever hear the NICE LADY on ron and ron? that loons laugh still haunts me

[deliciousV]

I'm just being pragmatic. My company has a dress code, if I show up to work out of dress code I can be disciplined which is something I've been made aware of as a term of my employment. That is a way that the company interferes with my freedom of expression for their own financial interests, but no one makes a big deal about that. If a company did not have a provision in place I dont think they should be able to discipline anyone.

I think people should direct their anger at A&E and not the special interest group. It's repressive to tell the special interest group that they need to forgo their offense and right to protest in order to protect the sensibility of the majority. Be mad just at A&E, those are the people who took the action.

fuck them both. Every fucking group with a minority opinion has learned to use this method to push the rest of us around for too long because of thinking like that

[Recyclerz]

from hearing what fez's dad did with the family finances, do you think that it was related to his own hidden mental illness?

I know a couple of guys who are just like this. They like playing "Big Daddy" and lavishing their families/friends with all kinds of luxuries regardless of their financial situations. It is stupid and ultimately selfish but I'm not sure it rises to mental illness.

[spoon]

Man this lady just fucking sucks.

[OneEyeJack]

bit Alert ..bit Alert.....

[realmenhatelife]

fuck them both. Every fucking group with a minority opinion has learned to use this method to push the rest of us around for too long because of thinking like that
Companies have yet to set the precedent that they'll stand up. Again be mad at them for that.


Hey we can all agree this woman is psycho.

[Misteriosa]

fuck them both. Every fucking group with a minority opinion has learned to use this method to push the rest of us around for too long because of thinking like that

this method has been around for a long time. there are a lot of things that i am able to do and places that i am able to go now because minority opinion "pushed the majority around"

[hanso]

OMG did you ever hear the NICE LADY on ron and ron? that loons laugh still haunts me

Can't remember was long ago

[OneEyeJack]

bit

[deliciousV]

Sorry, but no, it isn't.
Your right to free speech is guaranteed against government action. That's it. Period.
If you want more protection than that, you need to organize enough people to get it codified as law.

Yes, damnit it is! Where do you get the idea that only the govt can take away your free speech? We are giving it away when we tolerate this kind of shit, putting up with companies deciding what they consider proper speech, then removing peoples livelihoods. It doesn't matter who takes it, it'll soon be gone.

[disneyspy]

bit Alert ..bit Alert.....

you,dell and leeds are like chicken little with this "bit"

[A.J.]

Ugh, what a bitch. This is HIS birthday gift.

[Misteriosa]

bit Alert ..bit Alert.....

werd. she said she didnt get 202/105 on her radio when they brought up talking to other callers. hmmm...

[spoon]

I would divorce this cunt in two seconds, kids or not. What a vapid, controlling and of course bitchy whore.

[spoon]

Ok, she does deserve vacation too, as kids are crazy tough at home. That part seems completely shitty IF really said by the husband and dad. So THAT may be setting this all up.

[OneEyeJack]

whats that smell???it smells like abit...

[A.J.]

Calls like this make me SO happy that I am single.

[Dell]

that guy's email was spot on, his wife is on the bitchy side

I'm a lucky man...I was away from home 4 nights a week when my kids were in 1st and 3rd grades and my wife took it as it's for the overall good

since then, I have been on the road almost two weeks a month...good thing this lady didn't marry a sailor

[Dell]

bit Alert ..bit Alert.....

please, continue...

[disneyspy]

it's the guys fault for marrying a bitch

[OneEyeJack]

still a Bit.....

[Dell]

you,dell and leeds are like chicken little with this "bit"

we only seem like children because you are so old...

[OneEyeJack]

give me a B B

[disneyspy]

we only seem like children because you are so old...

you're so old you finish every post with an elipsis cuz you think your sending a telegram

[Dell]

you're so old you finish every post with an elipsis cuz you think your sending a telegram

good one...

[OneEyeJack]

give me a U U

[Misteriosa]

Omw to the lame-o company x-mas party. Meh...

[disneyspy]

good one...

are you trying to send morris code but keep nodding off?

[sailor]

I'm a lucky man...I was away from home 4 nights a week when my kids were in 1st and 3rd grades and my wife took it as it's for the overall good

since then, I have been on the road almost two weeks a month...good thing this lady didn't marry a sailor

Hey!

[disneyspy]

I'm a lucky man...I was away from home 4 nights a week when my kids were in 1st and 3rd grades and my wife took it as it's for the overall good

since then, I have been on the road almost two weeks a month...good thing this lady didn't marry a sailor

i pity any woman that marries a sailor

[spoon]

I'm a lucky man...I was away from home 4 nights a week when my kids were in 1st and 3rd grades and my wife took it as it's for the overall good

since then, I have been on the road almost two weeks a month...good thing this lady didn't marry a sailor

one women DID in fact marry sailor

she's actually pretty nice too, unlike her drippy husband

:innocent:

[LeedsJr]

Yes, damnit it is! Where do you get the idea that only the govt can take away your free speech? We are giving it away when we tolerate this kind of shit, putting up with companies deciding what they consider proper speech, then removing peoples livelihoods. It doesn't matter who takes it, it'll soon be gone.

No, damnit, it is NOT!

I get the idea from the FACT that the very IDEA of "free speech" comes from the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. To wit:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

We are a capitalist, free market, democratic republic society. The GOVERNMENT cannot punish us for our opinions because of our Constitution. BUSINESSES can hire or fire us for any or no reason, unless we collectively bargain for further rights.

If you do not like those FACTS, then start working on getting the law changed.

[realmenhatelife]

Omw to the lame-o company x-mas party. Meh...

Should be a hoot.

[A.J.]

Omw to the lame-o company x-mas party. Meh...

I blew off my office holiday party earlier this afternoon.

[disneyspy]

I blew off my office holiday party earlier this afternoon.

are your lips sore?

[spoon]

I blew off my office holiday party earlier this afternoon.

hmmmm

[Dell]

while in town, I stayed home with the kids when they were sick...my wife is an educator which made it a lot more difficult for her to take a day off at the last minute

[LeedsJr]

Omw to the lame-o company x-mas party. Meh...

I blew off my office holiday party earlier this afternoon.


Our company party starts @ 5:30. Open bar! Woot woot! :drunk:

[LeedsJr]

hmmmm


Hey spoon, were you the one that asked how my son's game went?

[deliciousV]

No, damnit, it is NOT!

I get the idea from the FACT that the very IDEA of "free speech" comes from the 1st Amendment to the Constitution. To wit:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

We are a capitalist, free market, democratic republic society. The GOVERNMENT cannot punish us for our opinions because of our Constitution. BUSINESSES can hire or fire us for any or no reason, unless we collectively bargain for further rights.

If you do not like those FACTS, then start working on getting the law changed.

If I had been saying 1st ammendment all this time, you'd be right. Only applies to government. I'm talking about actual speech, maybe I should be saying free expression of opinion, since the minute you say free speech people start the whole "only the govt bla bla bla". And I can see your argument about collective bargaining, but I can't quite jump on board the whole pro union train any more. I've done that and watched the most useless of assholes profit off the back of the productive while being protected by the union.

[spoon]

Hey spoon, were you the one that asked how my son's game went?

one of them at least, yah

makeup done yet?

[hanso]

I blew off my office holiday party earlier this afternoon.

plenty of room over there for mod quote

[Dell]

WHO...:wacko:

household word...:huh:

[LeedsJr]

If I had been saying 1st ammendment all this time, you'd be right. Only applies to government. I'm talking about actual speech, maybe I should be saying free expression of opinion, since the minute you say free speech people start the whole "only the govt bla bla bla". And I can see your argument about collective bargaining, but I can't quite jump on board the whole pro union train any more. I've done that and watched the most useless of assholes profit off the back of the productive while being protected by the union.


I can't argue the fact that some exploit the protection of unions, or that those in power in unions exploit those positions (power corrupts, and all that). But I can't be anti-union because of those things. It drives me nuts when people rail against unions "driving companies out of business with unreasonable demands" at the same time they don't even bat an eyelash at the same company's CEO making $50 million.

As far as free speech/expression of of opinion/whatever, what's the difference?
In every example, that individual was free to express their opinion, and their employer was free to react to it as they saw fit. You said it earlier it was not in A&E's best interest to suspend the guy, but I'm sure if it wasn't, they wouldn't have.

[A.J.]

Gurian's grandmother had to fake a Jewish accent? Based on his accent, I find that hard to believe.

[spoon]

If I had been saying 1st ammendment all this time, you'd be right. Only applies to government. I'm talking about actual speech, maybe I should be saying free expression of opinion, since the minute you say free speech people start the whole "only the govt bla bla bla". And I can see your argument about collective bargaining, but I can't quite jump on board the whole pro union train any more. I've done that and watched the most useless of assholes profit off the back of the productive while being protected by the union.

While I get the separation argument bt biz and country on the 1st amendment, it has very prominently been part of our structure in biz for years even if not legally incorporated. It seems of late thoughts, voting patterns/PACs and personal decisions ARE getting mixed up with how the market/job can influence or even force these things in our lives. Unions and any org will have some corruption simply due to the human factor DV, but their need is HUGE of late again, yet they have so little power bc biz has effectively crushed them through both private and political means.

[LeedsJr]

one of them at least, yah

makeup done yet?


They played Monday. 4-4 tie. Moved my son's team from #8 in the state to #3.

Sounds great, but my son's team HAD them. They were winning 4-1 going into the third. They ran out of gas.

I know it sounds bad for my son, giving up 3 goals in the third and "blowing the lead", but he really did play very well. The goals against him were three deflections and a breakaway, 2 on the power play.

Like I said, his team got tired in the third, which created that little bit of extra space and time for the other team. He did all he could. Shots were 26-12 in favor of the other team.

[Dell]

I can't argue the fact that some exploit the protection of unions, or that those in power in unions exploit those positions (power corrupts, and all that). But I can't be anti-union because of those things. It drives me nuts when people rail against unions "driving companies out of business with unreasonable demands" at the same time they don't even bat an eyelash at the same company's CEO making $50 million.

As far as free speech/expression of of opinion/whatever, what's the difference?
In every example, that individual was free to express their opinion, and their employer was free to react to it as they saw fit. You said it earlier it was not in A&E's best interest to suspend the guy, but I'm sure if it wasn't, they wouldn't have.

I don't think the media/entertainment industries are afraid of the religious right because they have worked so hard at painting them as idiotic caricatures...even if they protested/boycotted, it would be the punchline of jokes for a year

they are however, afraid of the minority groups because they have championed their cause for so many years...in other words, they can weather one storm and not the other

can you make fun of the religious right and suffer no repercussions, yes...can you oppose the opinion of a minority group, like gays, and suffer no repercussion, no

I don't like social engineering whether it's the government or an industry doing it...just don't like it

[spoon]

They played Monday. 4-4 tie. Moved my son's team from #8 in the state to #3.

Sounds great, but my son's team HAD them. They were winning 4-1 going into the third. They ran out of gas.

I know it sounds bad for my son, giving up 3 goals in the third and "blowing the lead", but he really did play very well. The goals against him were three deflections and a breakaway, 2 on the power play.

Like I said, his team got tired in the third, which created that little bit of extra space and time for the other team. He did all he could. Shots were 26-12 in favor of the other team.

wow, sounds like they fought hard to even stay close…26-12 is BAD

the top lines needed to step up here, but were you playing a top team? if you guys were 8 (now 3 bc of a tie), these guys really took it to you, despite allowing 4 goals on just 12 shots!

[Dell]

who the heck is this guy?

[disneyspy]

who the heck is this guy?

some comic book guy

[Melk]

our ESD getting all creative (and kind to himself)...

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/988839_789922324368204_1514882142_n.jpg
That is why ESD is making the small bucks.

[LeedsJr]

wow, sounds like they fought hard to even stay close…26-12 is BAD

the top lines needed to step up here, but were you playing a top team? if you guys were 8 (now 3 bc of a tie), these guys really took it to you, despite allowing 4 goals on just 12 shots!


I think the reason they ran out of gas was that the coach leaned on his top lines too much, but he didn't really have a choice. The bottom of our roster couldn't keep up with this team.

They weren't playing A top team, they were playing THE top team.
#1 ranked, 6 time defending state champs.

[Dell]

some comic book guy

met Milton Berle...this guy's as old as you

[disneyspy]

met Milton Berle...this guy's as old as you

you're so old you called him nephew milty

[Dell]

you're so old you called him nephew milty

only someone very old would get that joke...therefore, Hunh?

[Dell]

sounds like they're going to end with this guy...later buddays

:bye:

[disneyspy]

was ronnie spector in yesterday? seems like an odd christmas break without her not popping in

[Chunky White Guy]

Another STRONG day from Fezzie.... keep it coming Fez - YOU SOUND AWESOME! :bye:

[LeedsJr]

Another STRONG day from Fezzie.... keep it coming Fez - YOU SOUND AWESOME! :bye:


This is Fez, isn't it? :wink:

[spoon]

I think the reason they ran out of gas was that the coach leaned on his top lines too much, but he didn't really have a choice. The bottom of our roster couldn't keep up with this team.

They weren't playing A top team, they were playing THE top team.
#1 ranked, 6 time defending state champs.

Leeds, you're talking the Delbarton game at Aspen?

[LeedsJr]

Leeds, you're talking the Delbarton game at Aspen?

Yep. Please don't put my name on here.

[spoon]

Yep. Please don't put my name on here.

huh?

[LeedsJr]

huh?


Never mind. You have a connection to that game?

[hanso]

was ronnie spector in yesterday? seems like an odd christmas break without her not popping in

Not that I heard.

[spoon]

just close to me now and I might have checked it out

and I seriously don't know what you meant on the name thing

PM me

[jennysmurf]

Yep. Please don't put my name on here.

You mean your name isn't leeds? Lies, all lies! You're a lying liar who lies!

[spoon]

You mean your name isn't leeds? Lies, all lies! You're a lying liar who lies!

THAT was what confused me!? I was going to say, IT'S YOUR name HERE!!!

:lol:

[deliciousV]

THAT was what confused me!? I was going to say, IT'S YOUR name HERE!!!

:lol:

he probably was afraid that, since you seem to have access to game info, you might figure out who he is based on the goalies name.

[jennysmurf]

he probably was afraid that, since you seem to have access to game info, you might figure out who he is based on the goalies name.

Yeah, no one wants spoon to know too much about their real life.

[LeedsJr]

he probably was afraid that, since you seem to have access to game info, you might figure out who he is based on the goalies name.

:unsure:

You mean your name isn't leeds? Lies, all lies! You're a lying liar who lies!


Uhhh.. Of COURSE it is! :innocent:

[spoon]

Ha! I feel wholely misrepresented here! I have countless rf netter names, numbers and info...NEVER would i go there. Come on man, hockey guys have code much less any human worth their salt.

[CountryBob]

Ha! I feel wholely misrepresented here! I have countless rf netter names, numbers and info...NEVER would i go there. Come on man, hockey guys have code much less any human worth their salt.

hey Spoon, what's ya brother's name - Fork or sumphin..... tsss sssss

[LeedsJr]

Ha! I feel wholely misrepresented here! I have countless rf netter names, numbers and info...NEVER would i go there. Come on man, hockey guys have code much less any human worth their salt.


Just to clarify, I didn't think spoon would do it spitefully. I just didn't want him to ask an innocent question with a little too much information.

[Dell]

hey Spoon, what's ya brother's name - Fork or sumphin..... tsss sssss

good one...

[spoon]

Oddly enough, i had a brother but he's forkin dead!

[spoon]

Just to clarify, I didn't think spoon would do it spitefully. I just didn't want him to ask an innocent question with a little too much information.



Like this, totally innocent here too, but if train a left hoboken at 6:31am and traveled at 39mph...what time would it arrive at penn station nyc? Follow up, if a train left newark penn station at the same time, what speed would it have to travel at to reach the same nyc station at the same time? And yes, the conductors are texting and drunk.

[jennysmurf]

Ha! I feel wholely misrepresented here! I have countless rf netter names, numbers and info...NEVER would i go there. Come on man, hockey guys have code much less any human worth their salt.

Heaven forbid you let a loved one's name slip....:dry:

[spoon]

Haaaaa!

First names out of the ether is wayyyyy dif! Plus, those weren't slips!

[spoon]

And loved one huh?!


Oooooooooooooo!

[A.J.]

Heaven forbid you let a loved one's name slip....:dry:

Better a name slip than a nip slip.

[spoon]

Says u!

[deliciousV]

Better a name slip than a nip slip.

crazy talk

[spoon]

Too slow!

[deliciousV]

Too slow!

nah, I saw yours, I was piling on.

[spoon]

Yah, AJ is clearly gay.