Fez Performance Appraisal Countdown Calendar

[Fugitive]

The purpose of this thread will be to informally evaluate Fez's job performance from his first appearance on Raw Dog through his fateful February performance appraisal.

[Dan-E]

Should we have a breakdown counter as well?

[realmenhatelife]

No.

[kRySpiE]

I have faith in my buddy. Ron will have to help though. He'll have to work his usual magic to subliminally boost Fez's confidence throughout his reinvention.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I wonder if going to Florida was such a good idea right before his probation started.

[deliciousV]

I wonder if going to Florida was such a good idea right before his probation started.

maybe he ran over another hapless bike rider and will have a good story. Fingers crossed.

[newport king]

Who gives a shit anymore

[spoon]

Fucking idiot thread.

[thepaulo]

The best thread ever.

[LeedsJr]

I have faith in my buddy. Ron will have to help though. He'll have to work his usual magic to subliminally boost Fez's confidence throughout his reinvention.


Ron doesn't want to help Fez come back. Ron wants Fez gone.

[deliciousV]

Ron doesn't want to help Fez come back. Ron wants Fez gone.

should he coddle him? Maybe keep carrying dead weight?
The ball is in Fez's hand, he can step up and earn it, or not. Blaming Ron for Fez becoming a basket case who has vowed to be funny, yet unoffensive, is unfair, in my opinion.

[LeedsJr]

should he coddle him? Maybe keep carrying dead weight?
The ball is in Fez's hand, he can step up and earn it, or not. Blaming Ron for Fez becoming a basket case who has vowed to be funny, yet unoffensive, is unfair, in my opinion.


No, he should not coddle him.
No, he should not keep carrying dead weight.
He has done that to Herculean limits already.
I do not blame Ron for Fez's downfall at all.
I'm just saying, in my humble opinion, that if Fez made an honest effort to step and earn his place, Ron would do his best to undermine him. We've heard it before.
Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I don't have access to Rawl Dawg, so I won't be hearing the payoff to this bit. If there is one. With this show's history, I wouldn't be surprised if the service terminated before Fez's evaluation date. :laugh:

[deliciousV]

No, he should not coddle him.
No, he should not keep carrying dead weight.
He has done that to Herculean limits already.
I do not blame Ron for Fez's downfall at all.
I'm just saying, in my humble opinion, that if Fez made an honest effort to step and earn his place, Ron would do his best to undermine him. We've heard it before.
Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I don't have access to Rawl Dawg, so I won't be hearing the payoff to this bit. If there is one. With this show's history, I wouldn't be surprised if the service terminated before Fez's evaluation date. :laugh:

I think that when Fez has a good day, Ron is his biggest cheer leader, I think that on those occasions that we hear Ron interrupt Fez talking by taking a call, Fez has already been well into a half assed day, and I suspect there is body language we don't see that makes Ron behave like a big meany.
I probably commiserate with Ron too much, my last couple of years at the Post Office were spent on a sorting belt with two seemingly healthy women who had doctors restrictions against doing 90% of the kind of work required for the positions they had bid on, so I did the work of 3 bids while they slinked off, saying "it's outside my restrictions" , the union protected them. After my 4th elbow surgery I became quite bitter, my last conversation with a union official came after I told the two lazy bitches that they were killing me, he told me he would push management to fire me if I kept it up. After my 5th surgery I finally accepted a medical retirement, I now live off of a 4th of what I was making.
If you can't do the work you're getting paid for, get the fuck out of the way and quit making others work harder to cover for you. Fez has a chance, it's not anybody elses job to cover for him, or make it easy.

(I was a mail handler on nights, 10:30 to 7, the job was dumping bags of bundled magazines onto a belt and sorting them by zip, by throwing them into spread out large hampers, divided by 3 it's not so bad, but when two of the three are sleeping in the locker room it's like pitching 3 games a night, the elbows go)

[hanso]

Is this the big kids table?

[Predicked]

I hope it's not to soon to go ahead and pay fez through April right now and escort him out of the building. I firmly believe it would be the deciding factor to ensure the success of the move. Here's hoping his crap is already with the doorman along with his final check.

[spoon]

i hope you get a dick to pierce your eardrum…preferably your sister's…and I want to kick your cat in the face.

[jennysmurf]

i hope you get a dick to pierce your eardrum…preferably your sister's…and I want to kick your cat in the face.

Silly, didn't you see his name? His ear comes "predicked." You're so very hostile to cats, too. That's a predictor of serial killer capabilities.

[spoon]

so you think my comment was random do ya?

[spoon]

as for the cat hating…let's bury that one right here

it's so logical to hate them that even psychos realize the need to despise them too

field goal!!!!

[jennysmurf]

so you think my comment was random do ya?

Nothing you ever post is random. I'm always on guard near you.

[Fugitive]

Monday, January 6, 2014- FIRST SHOW ON RAWDOG HR Notes:

Ron: Today, who do you think did a worse job of getting this pushed out, you or Chris Stanley?

Fez: I did a worse job – because I should have been of charge of everything, and I did not get it done.

[jennysmurf]

Fezzie tried to chime in about the panic attack that Michael Bay had, but Ron completely cut him off, and berated his comment. I see Fez trying, but getting nowhere. It seems no one is happy no matter what he does.

[spoon]

js nailed it

and it isn't something new

ron has no fucking balls to just end this

none and it now reflects on him more than just ending something not working any longer



for such a tough guy with talk, he's quite the pussy with fez outside of passive aggressive bullshit for half a decade. yep he's witty and has an edge, but a complete douche with fez even if he did lose his radio value

[deliciousV]

Fezzie tried to chime in about the panic attack that Michael Bay had, but Ron completely cut him off, and berated his comment. I see Fez trying, but getting nowhere. It seems no one is happy no matter what he does.

I didn't hear it this way, he had just done the same bit with Shelby, fucking with him while he acted like he was having a panic attack, then he turned to Fez and ran the same play, only it sounded like Fez didn't know what was happening.

[deliciousV]

js nailed it

and it isn't something new

ron has no fucking balls to just end this

none and it now reflects on him more than just ending something not working any longer



for such a tough guy with talk, he's quite the pussy with fez outside of passive aggressive bullshit for half a decade. yep he's witty and has an edge, but a complete douche with fez even if he did lose his radio value

I think it goes a little past "tough guy" to fire someone you have described as "family", that being said, the passive aggression is no better. It's somewhat understandable, but it's not helpful.

[spoon]

tough guy in terms of telling everyone else what to do with their lives when in tough situations and acting like it's simple

go beat your mental disorder with philly grit fez, and I can't cut you loose on a professional level and keep this "like family" feel outside it bc you'd rather go the bully/break him down route

[foodcourtdruide]

I think it goes a little past "tough guy" to fire someone you have described as "family", that being said, the passive aggression is no better. It's somewhat understandable, but it's not helpful.

The first hour of the show yesterday was annoying to listen to. I hate "complaint" radio. O&A and Stern do it a lot, where they complain about everything around them.

I don't care that your bumpers are off, or the wrong song played or management didn't give you something you wanted. I've heard Ron complain about the reality show feel of the show, but that's what his complaints yesterday felt like to me.

[deliciousV]

tough guy in terms of telling everyone else what to do with their lives when in tough situations and acting like it's simple

go beat your mental disorder with philly grit fez, and I can't cut you loose on a professional level and keep this "like family" feel outside it bc you'd rather go the bully/break him down route

I can't disagree.

[Fugitive]

js nailed it

and it isn't something new

ron has no fucking balls to just end this

none and it now reflects on him more than just ending something not working any longer



for such a tough guy with talk, he's quite the pussy with fez outside of passive aggressive bullshit for half a decade. yep he's witty and has an edge, but a complete douche with fez even if he did lose his radio value

No balls to end it? Ron once pointed out that they have NEVER fired a producer - all of the producers they've had have left "on their own" - but sometimes after a long process of Ron showing his discontent. I felt the complaints about the flubbed show opening music were interesting, because - other than the long-teased revelation about the Xmas gift, there was really nothing new about the show. So - when the opener was flubbed, that messed up the ONLY thing that would have been strikingly different. The opener even had boring football talk - that was something I was hoping was going away for good with the new show. But NOOOOOOOOOOO. Ron is in danger of adopting Chuck Berry's old act - always knocking the band onstage. But in Chuck's case, the band was just a local pick-up band. These are people he's been working with for years. I'm starting to agree with Spoon - Ron may be culpable for not having the balls to end it. Not just with Fez, but with Chris, too.

[spoon]

Yes, he plays passive aggressive games.

[newport king]

Christ, we're STILL doing this? Hopefully the almost 50yr old man can pull it together finally because theyre on a different channel. Ive just had it.

Spoons 100% right, Ron fuckin sucks too in terms of dealing with this.

What did the centaur do to fall out of favor?

[spoon]

Hicks was around too long and has no vagina. The normal Ron protocol. Esd would have been gone too as soon as he no longer amused Ron.

[danner1515]

The first hour of the show yesterday was annoying to listen to. I hate "complaint" radio. O&A and Stern do it a lot, where they complain about everything around them.

I don't care that your bumpers are off, or the wrong song played or management didn't give you something you wanted. I've heard Ron complain about the reality show feel of the show, but that's what his complaints yesterday felt like to me.

This is exactly what slowly drove me away from this show and O&A, and it's made free podcasts seem like a breath of fresh air. I'm 15 minutes into Monday's show now, and I already feel like turning it off.

[underdog]

Yes, he plays passive aggressive games.

It's just so annoying. Fez is trying again, and Ron is having none of it. I can't totally blame him, though.

But when they were in that jazz studio for two days, Fez was trying to be old Fez and Ron just shut him down immediately. He's just so mad someone didn't do the dirty work for him that he's just taking it out on Fez more.

Even the beginning of Tuesday's show. Ron goes into his normal, "I don't know what day of the week it is" opening, Fez jokingly corrects him, then Ron makes fun of Fez for being serious the rest of the show.

At least Shelby is there to add a bit of newness to the show.

[keithy_19]

It sounds like I'm missing out.

[fezident]

It's just so annoying. Fez is trying again, and Ron is having none of it. I can't totally blame him, though.

.

Serious question for you (I'm sincerely not looking for a fight)
Do you really think Fez is "trying"?
Meaning... if you took yesterday's show, and a show from... say... 5 months ago... and played those two shows for somebody... would that somebody notice any improvement in Fez? Would they think one was better than the other (in terms of Fez's contributions)?


I don't see any differences. (and I fucking LOVE the guy!)
YES..... there are some subtle things happening here and there. He's obviously putting an extra bit of energy into his "HEY EVERYBODY!" greeting, and he's burning a few extra calories here and there trying to laugh a little louder.
But overall.... I think he's the same.

Not being a dick here but, please share with me; what are you hearing that I am not hearing??


I hope this doesn't come across like I'm looking for an argument. I'm really not. Just looking for you to expand a bit more on your statement.

[sailor]

Serious question for you (I'm sincerely not looking for a fight)
Do you really think Fez is "trying"?
Meaning... if you took yesterday's show, and a show from... say... 5 months ago... and played those two shows for somebody... would that somebody notice any improvement in Fez? Would they think one was better than the other (in terms of Fez's contributions)?


I don't see any differences. (and I fucking LOVE the guy!)
YES..... there are some subtle things happening here and there. He's obviously putting an extra bit of energy into his "HEY EVERYBODY!" greeting, and he's burning a few extra calories here and there trying to laugh a little louder.
But overall.... I think he's the same.

Not being a dick here but, please share with me; what are you hearing that I am not hearing??


I hope this doesn't come across like I'm looking for an argument. I'm really not. Just looking for you to expand a bit more on your statement.

Fucking shit stirrer.

[LeedsJr]

Serious question for you (I'm sincerely not looking for a fight)
Do you really think Fez is "trying"?
Meaning... if you took yesterday's show, and a show from... say... 5 months ago... and played those two shows for somebody... would that somebody notice any improvement in Fez? Would they think one was better than the other (in terms of Fez's contributions)?


I don't see any differences. (and I fucking LOVE the guy!)
YES..... there are some subtle things happening here and there. He's obviously putting an extra bit of energy into his "HEY EVERYBODY!" greeting, and he's burning a few extra calories here and there trying to laugh a little louder.
But overall.... I think he's the same.

Not being a dick here but, please share with me; what are you hearing that I am not hearing??


I hope this doesn't come across like I'm looking for an argument. I'm really not. Just looking for you to expand a bit more on your statement.

Fucking shit stirrer.



I'll take the bait, then.

I definitely saw a difference yesterday.

He was involved with the guests.

5 months ago, that break about his 42 piece on the IBang would have resulted in angry, screaming, crying, then finally silent Fez. He did get angry yesterday, but turned it back funny. It turned into an entertaining break, and then he stayed involved the rest of the show.

And I am defintiely not a "the show can do no wrong" type of fan.

[jennysmurf]

And I am defintiely not a "the show can do no wrong" type of fan.

Yeah, leeds is definitely the worst ever.

[LeedsJr]

Yeah, leeds is definitely the worst ever.


Even worse than spy and spoon? :sad:

[jennysmurf]

Even worse than spy and spoon? :sad:

Not yet, but you need to slow your roll, brother. :tongue:

[fezident]

Fucking shit stirrer.

Fucking dipsy-doodler!!

[jennysmurf]

Fucking dipsy-doodler!!

Hey! Knock off the horseplay!

[spoon]

Not yet, but you need to slow your roll, brother. :tongue:

you meant sweetest

guilty

:devil2::innocent:

[sailor]

Hey! Knock off the horseplay!

Aww shit!

[spoon]

mouth!

[underdog]

Serious question for you (I'm sincerely not looking for a fight)
Do you really think Fez is "trying"?
Meaning... if you took yesterday's show, and a show from... say... 5 months ago... and played those two shows for somebody... would that somebody notice any improvement in Fez? Would they think one was better than the other (in terms of Fez's contributions)?


I don't see any differences. (and I fucking LOVE the guy!)
YES..... there are some subtle things happening here and there. He's obviously putting an extra bit of energy into his "HEY EVERYBODY!" greeting, and he's burning a few extra calories here and there trying to laugh a little louder.
But overall.... I think he's the same.

Not being a dick here but, please share with me; what are you hearing that I am not hearing??


I hope this doesn't come across like I'm looking for an argument. I'm really not. Just looking for you to expand a bit more on your statement.

Oh, he was not trying on yesterday's show. I agree.

My point was with the jazz studio shows. He was coming out trying to sound like the old Fez. Or he tries to be obscure or weird with Ron, and Ron just shuts him down.

But Wednesday's show was what Fez is now. Trying to shoehorn a bit into a conversation, and getting mad when it actually SPURRED A CONVERSATION. He was mad that they didn't let him just ramble off some truth bombs.

[WhaleFontanelle]

It's just so annoying. Fez is trying again, and Ron is having none of it.

When Ron interrupts Fez to make a comment or go in a different direction, that doesn't mean it's time for Fez to stop talking as a radio talk show host. That's an opportunity for Fez to talk about something else and try to take the lead from Ron.

Sometimes conversations have interruptions or go in tangents, but it's up to Fez to get back to his point and bring it all back together. Sometimes that means he has to take the lead in changing the topics and going to the phones.

I don't see any of it as a nefarious act by Ron -- he is just saying what comes to mind. Also Fez can interrupt Ron too and I don't think anyone here would see it as passive aggressive behavior by Fez. Sometimes Ron goes to the phones when Fez is trying to get some words out. Why can't Fez do the same to Ron?

[spoon]

so now being blatantly interrupted and often is an opportunity now!

fucking awesome

just go to the studio and compete with HTG for "under the desk" time for fuck's sake

holy shit that whole post only conjures up this…

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[spoon]

bottom line, fez is done, but he never had a shot

[Fugitive]

bottom line, fez is done, but he never had a shot

Should we buy him a card that everyone can sign?

[spoon]

Should we buy him a card that everyone can sign?

no, we should revel in his pain and be a complete dick bc you want to suck the other host off

[Fugitive]

no, we should revel in his pain and be a complete dick bc you want to suck the other host off

Hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. BTW, what is the story behind this website, anyone know?

http://fezwhatley.com/

[deliciousV]

Hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. BTW, what is the story behind this website, anyone know?

http://fezwhatley.com/

It's sadistic and mean spirited. Pretty fucking funny though.

[spoon]

I'd go with a pathetic waste of time…and more sucking off in the other direction.

[Fugitive]

It's sadistic and mean spirited. Pretty fucking funny though.

I thought the main part of it was too mean. But the tweets were kind of funny.

[A.J.]

I thought the main part of it was too mean. But the tweets were kind of funny.

The one about Janice made me laugh.

[foodcourtdruide]

I can't imagine how hard it is to work with fez. 95% of the time he literally does nothing, then 5% of the time he's up and demands perfection of everyone else. On top of that, he's the ultimate CYA guy with the boss and NEVER disagrees with him.

[hanso]

I laughed I cried.

[sailor]

I laughed I cried.

Memories, all alone in the moonlight?