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Old 02-08-2009, 11:55 AM   #276
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Not a good start. Not the worst ever, but on the way??????

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/2...eady%20failing

I had told SDN editor Alex Miller to hold back on my last letter because I wanted to give the Obama administration a fair shot for a month. Well, the events of the last 15 days have been horrendous in my opinion and I could not remain silent any longer.

We have seen tax-cheat after tax-cheat (not to mention multiple illegal alien employment violations) paraded before the senate to be voted on for the Obama cabinet. We have seen at least three appointees withdraw because of either tax-code violations or potentially more serious criminal or ethical violations. I think it both brash and egotistical to present such poorly vetted cabinet appointees. I made at least two appeals to the public in letters before the election of this president’s inability to show good judgment and now have been proven right by his actions in the first two weeks of his presidency. I believe he calculated that he would again receive a free pass from the media, but much to his surprise and mine, that didn’t happen.

We have seen the House proven to be so out of touch with their own constituents by proposing a stimulus plan that is neither stimulating or job-creating in its proposed nature. It is nothing more than a collection of the last half-decade’s voted-down social restructuring measures. A recent Gallup poll shows that this current stimulus plan has only a 38 percent approval rating. We have also seen President Obama’s approval rating decline by 14 points in only two weeks. At this pace he’ll be below President Bush’s last approval rating in a matter of months and not years.

For President Obama to endorse the pork-laden, social-engineering agenda of this current stimulus plan shows that he is just as out of touch with America as the House representatives and proven himself to be nothing more than the far-left liberal that he truly is.

Call Jared Polis and Mark Udall and let them both know that you don’t want them voting for this stimulus plan which is nothing more than a payback to the far-left for electing Obama and his buddies in Congress in the first place.

Mr. President, your performance in your first two weeks in office has proved abysmal. Let us trump you on that, you promised change we can believe in, don’t you think you should start delivering?
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Not a good start. Not the worst ever, but on the way??????

http://www.summitdaily.com/article/2...eady%20failing

I had told SDN editor Alex Miller to hold back on my last letter because I wanted to give the Obama administration a fair shot for a month. Well, the events of the last 15 days have been horrendous in my opinion and I could not remain silent any longer.

We have seen tax-cheat after tax-cheat (not to mention multiple illegal alien employment violations) paraded before the senate to be voted on for the Obama cabinet. We have seen at least three appointees withdraw because of either tax-code violations or potentially more serious criminal or ethical violations. I think it both brash and egotistical to present such poorly vetted cabinet appointees. I made at least two appeals to the public in letters before the election of this president’s inability to show good judgment and now have been proven right by his actions in the first two weeks of his presidency. I believe he calculated that he would again receive a free pass from the media, but much to his surprise and mine, that didn’t happen.

We have seen the House proven to be so out of touch with their own constituents by proposing a stimulus plan that is neither stimulating or job-creating in its proposed nature. It is nothing more than a collection of the last half-decade’s voted-down social restructuring measures. A recent Gallup poll shows that this current stimulus plan has only a 38 percent approval rating. We have also seen President Obama’s approval rating decline by 14 points in only two weeks. At this pace he’ll be below President Bush’s last approval rating in a matter of months and not years.

For President Obama to endorse the pork-laden, social-engineering agenda of this current stimulus plan shows that he is just as out of touch with America as the House representatives and proven himself to be nothing more than the far-left liberal that he truly is.

Call Jared Polis and Mark Udall and let them both know that you don’t want them voting for this stimulus plan which is nothing more than a payback to the far-left for electing Obama and his buddies in Congress in the first place.

Mr. President, your performance in your first two weeks in office has proved abysmal. Let us trump you on that, you promised change we can believe in, don’t you think you should start delivering?
And your proof is a letter to the editor?
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:06 PM   #278
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http://www.summitdaily.com/article/2...eady%20failing

I had told SDN editor Alex Miller to hold back on my last letter because I wanted to give the Obama administration a fair shot for a month. Well, the events of the last 15 days have been horrendous in my opinion and I could not remain silent any longer.

We have seen tax-cheat after tax-cheat (not to mention multiple illegal alien employment violations) paraded before the senate to be voted on for the Obama cabinet. We have seen at least three appointees withdraw because of either tax-code violations or potentially more serious criminal or ethical violations. I think it both brash and egotistical to present such poorly vetted cabinet appointees. I made at least two appeals to the public in letters before the election of this president’s inability to show good judgment and now have been proven right by his actions in the first two weeks of his presidency. I believe he calculated that he would again receive a free pass from the media, but much to his surprise and mine, that didn’t happen.

We have seen the House proven to be so out of touch with their own constituents by proposing a stimulus plan that is neither stimulating or job-creating in its proposed nature. It is nothing more than a collection of the last half-decade’s voted-down social restructuring measures. A recent Gallup poll shows that this current stimulus plan has only a 38 percent approval rating. We have also seen President Obama’s approval rating decline by 14 points in only two weeks. At this pace he’ll be below President Bush’s last approval rating in a matter of months and not years.

For President Obama to endorse the pork-laden, social-engineering agenda of this current stimulus plan shows that he is just as out of touch with America as the House representatives and proven himself to be nothing more than the far-left liberal that he truly is.

Call Jared Polis and Mark Udall and let them both know that you don’t want them voting for this stimulus plan which is nothing more than a payback to the far-left for electing Obama and his buddies in Congress in the first place.

Mr. President, your performance in your first two weeks in office has proved abysmal. Let us trump you on that, you promised change we can believe in, don’t you think you should start delivering?
Which poll? All the major polls still show it over 50%, including Gallup.
But, I guess that's what you get when you cite a "source" as reliable as you did.
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:32 PM   #279
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Which poll? All the major polls still show it over 50%, including Gallup.
But, I guess that's what you get when you cite a "source" as reliable as you did.
If you dig into the Gallup numbers, 72% of those surveyed favor some form of stimulus. Of course facts are things that can be hard sometimes.
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:42 PM   #280
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I believe the rule has been"couldn't lobby in their field within the past 12 months". I love how people twist shit.
That link, and those rules, were about the TRANSITION, not the administration. Did you even read the article? Seriously, get your facts straight.

His rules for the administration were release in an Executive Order, where he stipulated a similar thing, but 2 year window I believe. Still I go back to his words: lobbyists “won’t find a job in my White House”. Promise made on a serious subject, promise subsequently broken. His promise was first broken after the election during transition (thanks for pointing that out), then with the executive order, then with his own waivers to the executive order.

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So realistically the question is Patterson, Lynn and Corr.....not the 11 people you listed.
No, not when you apply the correct rules. However, not the point. Bottom line, they're lobbyists and, lest you forget: " lobbyists won’t find a job in my White House”. Once again - ethics with exceptions. Sweet. Justify it and rationalize it all you want – it is what it is.

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If you dig into the Gallup numbers, 72% of those surveyed favor some form of stimulus. Of course facts are things that can be hard sometimes.
i don't know where his numbers are from, but he did say "current stimulus plan" so it's dishonest for you to compare that to "some form of stimulus"
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Albo60s is wrong. The stimulus does not have a 38% approval rating. It's at 52%. 38% OPPOSE the package, ya got it backwards. Here is a nice shiny graph:



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PRINCETON, NJ -- Fifty-two percent of Americans interviewed Wednesday night are in favor of Congress passing a roughly $800 billion economic stimulus package; 38% are opposed. These figures are nearly identical to those measured in Gallup polling last week, right before passage of the bill in the U.S. House of Representatives, and are also in line with public support in early January.
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That argument doesn't hold a lot a lot of weight when you look at what most of the organizations that were being lobbied for. Some, yes, are pretty "business as usual," but the National Education Association? Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids? American Association of Justice? Various social advocacy groups? Ooooh, scary. Look out, the National Council of La Raza is here!
The point has nothing whatsoever to do with the organizations that were being lobbied for. Nothing. Your response appears to be an attempt to deflect and minimize the central point. I'm surprised that you, of all people, wouldn't look at the situation with a more critical eye and a little more depth.
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Here is a nice shiny graph:
Ha. That graph wasn't even close to being shiny. Typical liberal sugar-coating.
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SonofSmeagol is wrong. The stimulus does not have a 38% approval rating. It's at 52%. 38% OPPOSE the package, ya got it backwards. Here is a nice shiny graph:
Who? Me? I said what? Whoa there missy.
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i don't know where his numbers are from, but he did say "current stimulus plan" so it's dishonest for you to compare that to "some form of stimulus"
In the article that I cited from Gallup Polling, this appears:



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Who? Me? I said what? Whoa there missy.
Fine, the article you posted is wrong. Top notch journalism there from a paper that cannot even check numbers.

They also claim Obama's approval rating has dropped 14% in 2 weeks, another baldfaced lie:
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Fine, the article you posted is wrong. Top notch journalism there from a paper that cannot even check numbers.

They also claim Obama's approval rating has dropped 14% in 2 weeks, another baldfaced lie:
Huh? What article that I posted? Hey stop dragging me into this.
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I'm wrong twas the other guy albalsddbflbasdf60 that posted whatever

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Ya, I understand. Not the first, and certainly not the last, to be blinded by him.
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Ya, I understand. Not the first, and certainly not the last, to be blinded by him.
His halo permanently damaged my vision. Do you know how bright that shit is? Take it down a notch Messiah!
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I know nothing of this “jersey sean”. If he is fact a prick, I’d like to state that I am more than capable of being a prick in my own right. If he is a good guy, again, I’d like to state that I am more than capable of being a prick in my own right.
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In the article that I cited from Gallup Polling, this appears:

Its not like I can make this shit up.
re-read what i wrote. you're comparing apples to oranges. heck, i'm not even saying you're wrong or that he's right, i'm making no judgment as to the validity of anyone's statistics, it's not the point i'm making. it's like he said at the end of the bush presidency that 80% of americans are not favorable of the current president and you turned around and said well here's a chart showing that 95 percent of americans are in favor of someone being president.
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They also claim Obama's approval rating has dropped 14% in 2 weeks, another baldfaced lie:
I'm pretty sure it was 110% just two weeks ago - so at worst it's still 96%! Not bad!
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No, not when you apply the correct rules. However, not the point. Bottom line, they're lobbyists and, lest you forget: " lobbyists won’t find a job in my White House”. Once again - ethics with exceptions. Sweet. Justify it and rationalize it all you want – it is what it is.
Son, it is a joke.
Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials

"No political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration."http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...for-lobbyists/

I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone in Washington who has not lobbied at all.
Is this the promise you are referring to?
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The point has nothing whatsoever to do with the organizations that were being lobbied for. Nothing. Your response appears to be an attempt to deflect and minimize the central point. I'm surprised that you, of all people, wouldn't look at the situation with a more critical eye and a little more depth.
That's actually what I did as opposed to having a blanket Pavlovian reaction to a term without looking at who lobbied for what.
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