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Death Metal Moe

08-20-2002, 07:07 PM

It's simple. WHY do I eat food I KNOW will slowly kill me?

Why do I look at porn that I KNOW just exploits a lot of women?

Why do I lie when I KNOW I'm a bad liar?

Why don't I exercise regularly?

Why did I try to give Don and Mike an honest chance?

And many others. We're taught right from wrong, and we ignore it. I personally have that little bell that goes off in my head when I do wrong, and every now and then, when I think I can get away with it, I ignore it.

Am I lazy? Does it make me a bad person?

Am I alone?

I hope this isn't a stupid question with no real answer. I know man has battled with his own concsience since the beginning of time, but if we just followed our own internal instincts a lttle more, I think we'd be happier, but it's HARD TO DO!

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Gvac

08-20-2002, 07:18 PM

It's funny, but I was just asking myself a very similar question today. I gave up cigarettes for almost a full year, and now I'm smoking more than I ever did.

Why on earth did I go back? I know how awful it is for my health, and yet I continue.

And how many times (after a particularly rough evening) have you sworn off drinking? I have a real short memory, it seems.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-20-2002, 07:41 PM

I eat too much, booze too much. At the same time, I take vitamins and work out.

Cuz I sorta care.

And Moe, the porn thing, ain't no biggie!

Moe, You will NEVER be alone.

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HordeKing1

08-21-2002, 05:28 PM

NJDMMOE - Of course it's not a stupid question. Rather it makes a great deal of sense. Why do people do things they know are bad for them?

There are many reasons some simpler than others. An alcoholic or a cigarette smoker drink and smoke respectively b/c they are addicted to it, and despite knowing that it's hurting them, they usually cannot overcome their addiction (w/o some help). Food is more complex but it's a form of an addiction as well. It's also a comfort and the Fruedians in particular note it's close connection to the oral stae of psychosexual development. (Obtaining pleasure by eating is our first pleasure).

Some people "know" that what they're doing is bad, but they don't really believe that it will actually affect them. Lung cancer or AIDS, or other STD is always something that happens to the other guy. The idea that the bad stuff doesn't apply to oneself makes it very hard to stop doing something that really is harmful.

People also tend to rationalize things in a manner that makes what they really want to do (even if bad) seem like the logical choice.

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irishkb

08-21-2002, 05:46 PM

cause there fun...

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Zipgun

08-21-2002, 09:42 PM

Why do we do things we KNOW ARE WRONG??

BECAUSE WE CAN CAN CAN, BECAUSE WE CAN CAN CAN, BECAUSE WE CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN!!!!

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Death Metal Moe

08-21-2002, 10:12 PM

Wise ass.

Thanks Horde King.
Are there ways we can strenghten ourselves, and make sure we do what we feel is right?

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ToddEVF

08-21-2002, 10:24 PM

Are there ways we can strenghten ourselves, and make sure we do what we feel is right?

Its called isolantion from the outside world till ypou feel fit to join society again. you pack up a Cabin in the deep dark woods with only health foods and start an excersize program. By the time you feel fit enught to rejoin soceity you will be no longer burdened by junk foods, liquor, tobacco, or porn. but without those 4 things my life is meaningless.

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HordeKing1

08-24-2002, 05:43 PM

You don't need to isolate yourself to effectuate positive change in your life. Certainly, consistently doing things that you think are right i(or not doing things you think are wrong) fits into this category.

The primary way that I know of to consistently avoid doing ill, and to constantly do good is to try to keep "the big picture" in front of you at all times. By this I mean, setting the goal and always thinking about it before you act.

For example if your primary goal is to not talk badly of other people for example, the way to attempt to avoid doing so is to remember that this is what you want to accomplish. Before you speak think whether it advances your goal or hinders it.

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TheMojoPin

08-24-2002, 07:14 PM

Are there ways we can strenghten ourselves, and make sure we do what we feel is right?

As long as it doesn't effect the people around you, or your job or ability to interact with society, I don't think it's too much to worry about. So you like to watach porn? So you batch and be done, fine...but does it make you view the women you encounter differently? Do you feel violent after watching? THEN you might need to be worried...your weight isn't keeping you from walking through doors...there's a difference between the things you SHOULD do and NEED to do. Sure, each of us has a million things we could do differently, and SHOULD...but no need to beat yourself up over them.

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Death Metal Moe

08-24-2002, 09:09 PM

I hear ya Mojo. I'm not a freak or anything, I just know that in my head I know certian things feel wrong every now and then, and I do them anyway, and I'm wondering WHY I even have the feelings if my brain KNOWS I'm not going to want to do the right thing.

Like the food thing. I'm a little chunky, and I know with every visit to Wendy's for lunch instead of something a little healthier, I'm not gonna lose any weight, and could be building a heart attack later in life.

As for the Porno, I'm not sure if that's really a big deal. I just know that I REALLY wouldn't want my parents to find me batching to them. So for this reason, I feel it's kinda wrong. Anything you hide from others, it kinda says to me you KNOW it's wrong.

Just a few thoughts. I tried breaking EVERY porno tape I had a few years ago, and I just began a new collection. I mean, I only have a few, but I was SO SURE I was gonna kick that habit.

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TheMojoPin

08-24-2002, 11:30 PM

Just a few thoughts. I tried breaking EVERY porno tape I had a few years ago, and I just began a new collection. I mean, I only have a few, but I was SO SURE I was gonna kick that habit.

Never works. If you throw out your collection or smash 'em, you'll just start over. I've done that THREE times now...I finally kicked it when I sold my collection...you get something in return, it's easier to go cold turkey...go figure...

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Freeze

08-24-2002, 11:36 PM

Why do you smoke marijuana?oh becasue its great. Don n mike arent that bad

Its pretty cold in here.......

ShelleBink

08-25-2002, 11:34 AM

they told me cigarettes had vitamins and nutrients in them.

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Death Metal Moe

08-25-2002, 11:49 AM

Don and Mike FUCKING SUCK.

But listening to them was NEVER one of the wrong things I did. I gave them a shot, hated them like all intellegent people, and dropped them.

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HordeKing1

08-27-2002, 09:46 PM

NJDMMOE - You seem to indicate that you feel porn is "wrong" b/c you wouldn't want your parents to see you masturbating to them.

That doesn't make it wrong. There are many things you wouldn't want your parents to see, but they too are not wrong. Why signal out porn? Would you be ok if your parents saw you masturbating in general? Of course it would probably make you uncomfortable. Therefore you can be assured that it's not porn that is making you uncomfortable.

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TheMojoPin

08-28-2002, 09:06 AM

Would you be ok if your parents saw you masturbating in general?

That's the best question ever asked in the history of everything there ever was ever.

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Death Metal Moe

08-28-2002, 08:32 PM

I guess that's a real good point. Like all kids, masturbation was taught to me to be a Sinful thing, so I still have feelings about it being wrong.

I guess the guilt might come from there.

But what about things like eating Chicken wings, fried wontons, and an order of General Tso's chicken? I KNOW all that grease is gonna KILL me! But it's so damn good.

I guess it might just be an overall problem I have with will power.

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TheMojoPin

08-28-2002, 09:59 PM

I guess it might just be an overall problem I have with will power.

Is it better to live to be 85 and in perfect health, but without enjoying the food and lifestyle you love...or to die at 60 having ingested and done things just as you wanted? It all depends on how long you wann stick around...

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HordeKing1

08-29-2002, 09:57 AM

NJDMMOE -

Like all kids, masturbation was taught to me to be a Sinful thing, so I still have feelings about it being wrong.

Not all kids are taught this. I've taught my kids for example that masturbation is normal, healthy and fun. Why should a parent wish to cause grief and guilt in their children especially about an activity that they will do anyway? "Sinful?" Hah! Even as a fetus children masturbate. Strange for an "innocent" "soul" to engage in "sinful" behavior. Maybe miscariages are God's way of punishing those fetus' who masturbate too much! ;)

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Death Metal Moe

08-29-2002, 04:14 PM

That's very cool that you don't place that guilt trip on your kids, Horde. Parents are usually good, it's RELIGION that is the wrong here. I guess I didn't make that clear enough in my last post. But I understand what you mean. You and I are not exactly organized religion's biggest fans.

And TheMojoPin, you are right as well. It's not quantity of life, but quality of life. I'm just worried about living to 42, and dying of a heart attack. There's a differnce between 60 and 40, you know?

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TheMojoPin

08-29-2002, 07:51 PM

And TheMojoPin, you are right as well. It's not quantity of life, but quality of life. I'm just worried about living to 42, and dying of a heart attack. There's a differnce between 60 and 40, you know?

Very true...so of course, certain concessions have to be made. Like the fatty foods? Try not to overdo the sugar, or smoke, or drink too much...you know what I mean? To enjoy one, you need to balance or cut out others...but it's still better than being perfect and miserable. And you're a metal drummer, right? That's a killer workout right there, my friend...

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IRISjr

09-03-2002, 07:17 AM

who knows some sub concious thing

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HordeKing1

09-03-2002, 05:07 PM

"subconscious" is the wrong term. You mean "unconscious"

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McHaggis

09-07-2002, 10:31 AM

Why do i take time to reply to these things

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