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NurseMira
09-08-2002, 11:50 AM
I was just curious. I don't count women when I tell someone how many people I have been with. I just think it's the penetration thing...I don't know how else to explain it.

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Jackie Sloan
09-08-2002, 11:57 AM
Yes. Unless the question is "how many Men have you slept with".

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ToddEVF
09-08-2002, 12:03 PM
I was just curious. I don't count women when I tell someone how many people I have been with. I just think it's the penetration thing...I don't know how else to explain it


I believe penetration is the only thing that counts when it comes to "how many people you have slept with"

so if you have slept with about 20 girls and 5 guys. . . 5 is the number said.

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09-08-2002, 12:11 PM
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ToddEVF
09-08-2002, 12:12 PM
see, my arguement is 2 chick sleeping together doesn't really count, because there is no penetration, but a guy and girl counts along with guy and guy. . .

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F1Gm3nT
09-08-2002, 01:44 PM
Mira... yes they do count... i mean comon... well... if ya F'd em... yeah they count alrite

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DC Reed
09-08-2002, 01:51 PM
well if its a penetration thing, we would have to know if there was use of a dildo.

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TheGameHHH
09-08-2002, 04:02 PM
You're telling me a woman never "penetrated" you in ANY way shape or form?

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Aggie
09-08-2002, 04:15 PM
well if its a penetration thing, we would have to know if there was use of a dildo.

i don't think you're really concerned about the question dc reed....i think you just want to know that so you can go and batch thinking about it :)

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F1Gm3nT
09-08-2002, 04:22 PM
i think you just want to know that so you can go and batch thinking about it


I know I will

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Green Lantern
09-08-2002, 04:35 PM
I was just curious. I don't count women when I tell someone how many people I have been with. I just think it's the penetration thing...I don't know how else to explain it.


If the women was wearing a strap ons which means penetration there that counts.

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09-08-2002, 04:36 PM
Me too. <P>

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09-08-2002, 05:26 PM
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just makes for some more
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fiestygal
09-08-2002, 05:39 PM
Most def!! women SHOULD be sooo counted..NOW if it was sheep thats a different story!

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Hosp
09-09-2002, 04:09 AM
Yes, women should be listed in great detail, and you should be touching yourself while you do it

But I woudn't say "30 people", you should say "5 guys and 25 women" or whatever your number is because most guys would process it much better.

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Dan
09-09-2002, 08:40 AM
1. I believe Joey Lauren Adams and Ben Affleck answered all these questions on some swings in Chasing Amy.

2. What is this official count for? Is this a new census question?

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Gwen
09-09-2002, 09:31 AM
Wow, this thread got a lot of great answers. I agree with Green Lantern, Craig and todevf, if you were intimate with them that should count as sex. You may not have had the dictionary definition of sex iwth them, but you certainly were sexual with them.

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DarkHippie
09-09-2002, 09:35 AM
see, my arguement is 2 chick sleeping together doesn't really count, because there is no penetration
that would mean that all lesbians are virgins. i spent a good part of the last 2 years as a "guest" at a Womyn's College (my ex-gf goes there), and there is plenty of penetration in lesbian sex, with or without dildoes.

apparently penises are overrated :(

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NurseMira
09-09-2002, 10:21 AM
I know a lot of lesbians who do consider themselves virgins if they have never slept with a man. The thing is, a lot of men care when it comes to how many men a woman has slept with because of the competition. Like "Were they better in bed than I was..." or "Would she sleep with him again?", etc.

With women, you can't compete. I am attracted to women only because they are the total opposites of men. They have boobs and a vag...yummy :-)

I agree with the separating thing...I slept with "x" amount of men and "x" amount of women...so there!

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furie
09-09-2002, 10:51 AM
Should women be included when counting how many people you slept with?


only if you consider women people.

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09-09-2002, 11:24 AM
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Hosp
09-09-2002, 12:57 PM
Why is everyone so concerned with penetration? Isn't it the intimacy of the act that is the point? There is some kind of connection (emotional or not) that you have to have before having sex and I think that is the issue way more then just sticking something in.

Pretty good thread for me. I had Mira agree with me and found out that Dan is my pet. I think I'll go get a beer and call it a day.

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NurseMira
09-09-2002, 01:33 PM
I guess I just feel like there is no comparison when it comes to women. I just feel like men are threatened when they feel competition.

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Hosp
09-09-2002, 01:44 PM
Well I guess I'm just different. I never see it as competition. I see it as they are the woman's past, I am her present, and I have a chance to do right everything that the other guys have done wrong.

The only problem I would have is if she had sex with three or more men at once.

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NurseMira
09-09-2002, 01:51 PM
The only problem I would have is if she had sex with three or more men at once


Why would that be a problem?

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NurseMira
09-09-2002, 01:51 PM
Double post....um.....I'll think of something....

Ok...if it's her past...then how many people she slept with in one night shouldn't be a big deal.

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Hosp
09-09-2002, 02:03 PM
Not in one night, at one time. And this was 2 months before she tried to be with me without a condom. It just creeped me out. I knew her a short time at that point and the combination of those two things got to me.

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sexy bastard
09-09-2002, 02:14 PM
I would count them togeteher but not separate them you know?....like alot of guys fantasy is a woman who is bi..if yo usay you slept with x amont of men and x amount of women..well hell they will stick around hoping to geta threeway ..I wouldseparate it till he asks you if you were with a woamn...but i would include them but not separate them


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furie
09-09-2002, 02:21 PM
Why is everyone so concerned with penetration?


you must not get alot of compliments. :)

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Hosp
09-09-2002, 02:23 PM
More like no complaints.

Why would it only be sex if you use a dildo? It wouldn't be if it were just fingers and tongues? And I could get a girl off with no insertion at all so would that not be sex? That was only part of my point.

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NurseMira
09-09-2002, 03:10 PM
There are guys that I have "fooled around" with but there was no penetration. I don't count them on my list. Let me put it this way....if my legs are spread....he sticks it in...it's sex. In my book, sex with a man and sex with a woman is two totally different things. I only say that because there are plenty of times that I have included women and a lot of people simply say "Well, that doesn't count..."

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ToddEVF
09-09-2002, 03:17 PM
Let me put it this way....if my legs are spread....he sticks it in...it's sex.


Thats a genius thought! and i'm not patronizing. thats the way it should be put, always!

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sweet201
09-09-2002, 03:24 PM
Not in one night, at one time. And this was 2 months before she tried to be with me without a condom.


Hosp, I don't get it. Why does it make a difference whether it was three guys at once, or three guys in three years' time that she slept with? It's the same amount of dicks (and the same chance of catching VD) regardless.

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NurseMira
09-09-2002, 03:34 PM
Hosp, I don't get it. Why does it make a difference whether it was three guys at once, or three guys in three years' time that she slept with? It's the same amount of dicks (and the same chance of catching VD) regardless.




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Hosp
09-09-2002, 06:47 PM
Yes, I agree. But the idea of it and her trying to push herself on me when I told her I would never do it with someone without a condom until it's the person I plan on spending the rest of my life with is what bothered me. She tried to get on top of me and I shifted my weight to block her. I know all of the risk. I think we may be agreing butthe way I'm saying it is not getting my point across.

What bothered me was her whole attitutde about it. She told me that story to try to impress me and it was just her attitude about and that she couldn't make it clear if she used protection with them, then trying because she wanted to even though I said I wouldn't was my problem. I also found out today that even though she was always talking about being serious she was seeing other guys at the same time. And who knows what she was willing to do with them.

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09-10-2002, 07:18 AM
I only say that because
there are plenty of times that I
have included women and a lot
of people simply say "Well, that
doesn't count..."


i've said taht too when i'm dating
a girl, i want to keep that BC
(before craig) total as low as
possible in my head.


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FMJeff
09-10-2002, 07:30 AM
Most def!!


Did you just say "most def" on my board?

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NurseMira
09-10-2002, 07:43 AM
Did you just say "most def" on my board?


Ohhh SNAP!

I most def think he did, Jeff...

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furie
09-10-2002, 07:48 AM
It wouldn't be if it were just fingers and tongues?


Hosp, do you condiser a hand job sex?

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NurseMira
09-10-2002, 08:49 AM
If hand jobs and blow jobs are considered "sex"....then a lot of us girls are in trouble.

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TheGameHHH
09-10-2002, 08:55 AM
37....my girlfriend sucked 37 dicks! In a row??? <P>

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buttplug
09-10-2002, 09:10 AM
what if a guy penetrates you and then you penetrate him with a strap-on that that count as one penetration or 2

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NurseMira
09-10-2002, 09:45 AM
Doesn't matter who fucks who...you're still having sex with each other.

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09-10-2002, 10:19 AM
37....my girlfriend sucked 37 dicks! In a row???
Hey look at it this way, at least I wasn't number 36.

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Hosp
09-10-2002, 10:20 PM
Handjobs and Blow jobs are sexual acts but they aren't intercourse. If you are doing it to orgasm then you are giving that person sexual gratification, aren't you?

I think the best thing to do would be to answer the question that you are asked.

"How many guys have you had sex with?"

Pretty straight foward.

"How many guys have you been with?"

I would say that would have to include sex and oral. But you could say "I had sex with this many but fooled around with a few more" If they push for more details then you give the info you feel you should.

"How many people have you been with?"

Then tell them about the women also but as a seperate number as I said before.


Or this could all just be another instense of me over thinking everything.

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furie
09-11-2002, 01:33 PM
i don't think of a handjob as sex.


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schmega
09-11-2002, 01:45 PM
the question is how many times have your heard this:

'look what i did to you, again!'

you'll never hear that from a chick, so they dont count.

TheGameHHH
09-11-2002, 02:34 PM
Chicks say that all the time

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Rons Third Hand
09-14-2002, 09:27 PM
But I woudn't say "30 people", you should say "5 guys and 25 women" or whatever your number is because most guys would process it much better.



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swiss miss
09-21-2002, 09:08 AM
I agree Sexy lil Mira.....I dont even count men ive gone down on....i know we talked about that before. Do you think THAT counts??

Contra
09-21-2002, 12:05 PM
ok my opinion...

intercourse=been with/had sex with

all the other stuff is just "fooling around", and if you have to break it down to that degree then the person asking has problems. seriously, who give that much of a fuck??!!??

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Raine
09-21-2002, 03:36 PM
i dont count them

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nycmovieguy
10-01-2002, 12:23 AM
i'm sure the woman you slept with probably wants to be counted (although you may not want to count her)...
i've heard bi and les women refer to oral treats as 'f'ing so i imagine it would count, then again, i've heard one of those same women trying to say a 3some wasn't sex w/multiple people it was 'just playing', i'm still trying to figure that one out...
didn't clinton say he didn't have sex cuz it was a hummer?
if some of the best sexual experiences / memories i've had w/women didn't involve penetration from said persons unit, as a man would i have 'slept with her'?
oh, nevermind, i don't know...