View Full Version : History of Israel - in a nutshell
Meatball
04-28-2003, 10:04 PM
with so much misinformation, confusion, lies and just plain forgetfulness, this link has made the History of Israel simple enough for a child to understand. While everything here is in every western history book, visual aids are so easy on the eyes.
http://jewishinternetassociation.org/historynutshell/conflict.html
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TheMojoPin
04-28-2003, 10:09 PM
Interesting site. I'd like to see more "history in a nutshell" pages...
While it should be clear to anyone that Arafat is THE biggest human obstacle to Israeli peace, the site was more than just a tad one-sided. It focused only on the large-scale invasions where, yes, Israel was the victim. The vague, "they only offer peace again and again" notion was pure, blinders-on horseshit, but still, a decent primer on key dates and events...
On a related note to this topic, for anyone who still bothers to read these days, check out THIS book...
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=53K1AS8MGC&isbn=0385413726&itm=1
...in my opinion, it's hands-down the best book on the Israeli/Palestine issue by FAR...
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This message was edited by TheMojoPin on 4-29-03 @ 3:06 AM
This proves what I have thought since I was a little boy. Israel is the best country on this planet. Arabs should be brought to the brink of extinction, like the europeans did to the American Indian when they raped the Indians of this land.
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GrimSanity
04-28-2003, 10:23 PM
good site well done i'm totally agaist the BS on it but i'm tired of speaking my mind and having dickweeds fight to make there options the right one. so i'm just say a well done site
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Yerdaddy
04-28-2003, 11:01 PM
Or you could do a little more work and read the history sections of the more objective <a href="http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/iltoc.html" target="_blank">US Library of Congress: ISRAEL - A Country Study.</a>
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TooCute
04-29-2003, 03:35 AM
Wait a sec... are they talking abot the same place as the UN is?
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html
Oh well. Two sides to every story I guess. I don't think you'll EVER find an unbiased account of the history of the region.
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TheMojoPin
04-29-2003, 07:28 AM
I don't think you'll EVER find an unbiased account of the history of the region.
Read the book, READ THE BOOK!
Or, try this one...
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=53K1AS8MGC&isbn=0142002291&itm=1
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FiveB247
04-29-2003, 10:33 AM
History in a nutshell would be so great. Except for the one-side biasing. It's more like history in the half-shell for now.
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travis151
04-29-2003, 02:18 PM
I've probally read about 5 books about this conflict with in the last month. The best one I read was....( I don't know the extact name but I can get it) Beginners guide to the Palestinian Conflict/ wrote by one Jew and one Arab. This issue is so complicated I really can take either side of "whose" land it should be. I do lean to the Jewish side because it seems Arabic leaders really do not won't peace with Isreal. Also read by Bernard Lewis " What went Wrong" its about the trouble in the Middle East.
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TheMojoPin
04-29-2003, 02:33 PM
Also read by Bernard Lewis " What went Wrong" its about the trouble in the Middle East.
Utterly fantastic book. Just came out in paperback a month or two ago and I read the whole damn thing in one evening. It's that good.
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high fly
04-29-2003, 03:29 PM
Though the nutshell is from one side, it is also factual. I notice no one pointing out errors in it.
I would point out that in '48 Israel was not established, but re-established.
Also back then, the place was referred to as "Palestine" because anti Jewish Brits didn't want to call the area "Israel", and the "Palestinians" were mostly referred to as "Arabs" or "Arab refugees" after they lost the war in '48.
When Israel was re-established in '48, in their opening declaration they appealed to the surrounding Arabs for peace, and of course were turned down.
The PLO was formed in the early 60's when they had the West Bank, Jeruselem and the Gaza Strip, but their goal then as it is now is the destruction of Israel.
Around 1974 at a PLO summit a plan was announced that they have followed to this day. According to this plan, they would say or do anything to get a foothold in the occupied territories and would use that as a base to accomplish the goal of the destruction of Israel.
Since being given some measure of autonomy in the West Bank and Gaza, the Palestinians have set up for themselves a corrupt, useless regime to govern themselves.
They have not shown themselves fit to run anything as complex as a national government, or fit to be a good neighbor in the area.
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silera
04-29-2003, 06:49 PM
I have two kids. When they fight if I get involved early on, I care who started it and pick a side. If they keep fighting, I eventually tell them both to shut up and cut it out or stop complaining and fight until they draw blood.
I'm at this point with the Israel/Palestine situation.
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Death Metal Moe
04-29-2003, 06:56 PM
I think we need to get our attention off the MIddle East and concentrate on Finland.
Those bastards have just been sitting there all smug and ignored for too long!
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FiveB247
04-30-2003, 05:37 PM
Sounds like Vince McMahon would like to get behind this idea. Last man standing match....
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