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scorpion
09-12-2003, 04:22 AM
I am curious about what everyone's opinion is on this topic.

BTY - This was a topic on the Radio Chick show if you happen to hear it also.

A woman and a guy go out on a date which through out dinner he claims to be doing very well. She doesn't order much and he say that go ahead and order something else (for example the lobster). She does and they a great time according to her.

When it comes down to paying the bill she offers to help with the check and he says ok and proceeds to figure out what her part is to the penny.

When he calls for the next date she refuses on the basis of him taking her up on her offer to pay ( which she said she really does not mean it anyway but just always says it anyway).

Some said she was shallow to base it on the fact that she offered and he accepted.

Others said she was right that men should always pay for the first date........

As a rule I would pay for the first date. But it seems that I have fed way too many women in Manhattan.


Also is this a common scam that women use on guys just to get a free dinner?


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This message was edited by scorpion on 9-12-03 @ 8:25 AM

Furtherman
09-12-2003, 07:11 AM
The man should pay for the first date.

BUT - in regard to:


When he calls for the next date she refuses on the basis of him taking her up on her offer to pay ( which she said she really does not mean it anyway but just always says it anyway).


That is f'n bullshit and you wouldn't want to go out with a woman who does that anyway.

Then again - how could you know on the first date if she was pulling that shit? Hard to tell.

If a girl asks to help out with the check, I always say no... BUT if she insists again, I'll let her help out. By that mean, she should in no terms make a conscience decision to Dr0p me because I took her up on her offer. She asked twice. And ask any woman if she should ask twice.

mdr55
09-12-2003, 07:15 AM
She most likely offered to pay cuz she didn't like the guy and didn't want him to feel like she "owed" him something (like a secind date, sex, whatever) cuz she knew that she wasn't going to go out with him again.

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Jennitalia
09-12-2003, 07:18 AM
that twat had no right in getting her panties in a bunch because he accepted her offer to pay her way on the date. I'll always offer to pay on dates; I just feel more comfortable in doing that. I don't expect a guy to pay on a first date, or if we've been dating for a while.

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StupidGirlllll
09-12-2003, 07:19 AM
Ok if she offered to pay, he should of said ok if U wanna help u can leave the tip...but to work it out to the Penny now thats cheap & there is nothing worse than being a cheap Mother Fucka

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Katylina
09-12-2003, 07:55 AM
Whoever asks should pay.

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Jennitalia
09-12-2003, 08:25 AM
If I do pay for a guy, I expect him to put out for me.

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JustJon
09-12-2003, 08:36 AM
She offerred, then she's a twat for being mad. But figuring it to the penny is so high school.

If I ask someone out, then I'm going to assume going in that I'm paying for it.

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Mike Teacher
09-12-2003, 09:18 AM
Sorry, I'm Old School, I guess.

Guy pays, and it's out of respect, with absolutely no strings attached or implied.

She offers? I'd tell her in a most polite way that I'd love to pick up this one. I'll even say, you can get the next one.

But the next one I'm gonna pay for too.

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Let me expand a little [inser fat joke here]. I am 40, so I'm not young anymore. Maybe 40 is old, I'd say no, but it ain't young.

I grew up in an age where guys lost jobs for ordering the wrong thing to drink at a business lunch interview.

That's assuming he got the lunch because he showed up clean shaven in a suit [jacket and tie? seeya.] the right shoes, 15 minutes early and used the word 'Sir' about 400 times in a 20 minute interview, never once uttering a 'like' or 'you know'.

Who was paying wasn't even an issue. It wasn't up for discussion. You held a door for a lady. This was my world as a kid.

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jocefus
09-12-2003, 09:26 AM
Guy pays, and it's out of respect, with absolutely no strings attached or implied.She offers? I'd tell her in a most polite way that I'd love to pick up this one. I'll even say, you can get the next one.

But the next one I'm gonna pay for too.




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FUNKMAN
09-12-2003, 10:02 AM
i would pay and just ask her to take care of the tip...

what tip?

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Doctor Manhattan
09-12-2003, 10:32 AM
Just "Air it out" a little.

Don't let the woman pay unless she insists, that first offer isn't real (Women lie, go figure) but if she insists I take that as a bad sign. Let her pay (but don't be tacky and figure it to the penny, why spend the time? just round it to an easy figure, she supposed to have exact change, doucebag?)

I wouldn't call her for a second date, but if she liked the first date and insisted on paying for some other reason, she's likely to call YOU for the second date, that's a good sign!

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scorpion
09-12-2003, 10:39 AM
If I do pay for a guy, I expect him to put out for me.


I know of a Wendy's next to a hotel ?

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Jennitalia
09-12-2003, 11:50 AM
all right...a cheap date, and i get laid!

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RocOutWithYACockOUT
09-12-2003, 12:10 PM
Whoever asks should pay.



That doesn't really say anything. Because the guy asks out the girl almost always. If girls asked out guys that would make our jobs as guys much more easier.

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Reephdweller
09-18-2003, 09:03 PM
I've always been of the thought that the guy pays. True it's out of respect. I would possibly only see letting her help pay the way if either she demanded to help, or if I was short on cash which I try not to be, but if that were the case and she insisted on helping I might consider it.

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Steels
09-18-2003, 09:22 PM
Being the gentleman that I am I usually pay for the tab at the club, score the blow and downs while the particular honey takes care of the beer, smokes and hotel room for after hours.

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09-18-2003, 09:23 PM
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sexy bastard
09-19-2003, 05:02 AM
I would pay on a first date if the woman says she will be pay i wont let her the most i will allow is spliting it

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Snoogans
09-19-2003, 05:12 AM
if i asked the girl out ill pay, if she asks me out, she should pay the first time, since she asked. also, if it goes well, you know damn well it isnt her paying for the subsequent dates, so you might as well get 1 free if you can.

Ok if she offered to pay, he should of said ok if U wanna help u can leave the tip...but to work it out to the Penny now thats cheap & there is nothing worse than being a cheap Mother Fucka

this type of view really bothers me. a guy works for his money. so does a woman. any woman who would call a guy a cheap motherfucker if they split the meal to the penny is indeed a cheap motherfucker herself for not being at all willing to spend her money.
its accepted that guys generally pay, and we do. but if your gonna want equal rights, looking at a guy as cheap because he wants to pay EQUAL is a hipocritical statement
edit: i just had to add specifically, if she offered to pay, he should have said oh if you wanna help you could leave a tip.
1)thats almost degrating to the woman. its like sayin oo, thats cute you wanna pay like a big girl. well you can leave the tip if you need to feel important. ok so thats a little overstating, but you get the point im making.
2)if the woman only wanted to pay the tip, she would have said hey ill leave the tip.

from now on, lets try this novel idea. if you really honestly wanna pay, then offer. if a woman offers to pay just to be nice, and then the guy says yes cause she offered, good. thats what she gets for not being honest and upfront and tryin to play a fuckin mind game instead

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This message was edited by Snoogans on 9-19-03 @ 9:16 AM

Mike Teacher
09-19-2003, 05:23 AM
if you really honestly


Honesty?

On a Date?

That IS a Novel Idea!!!!

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Aggie
09-19-2003, 12:23 PM
What?? The guy is supposed to pay??!!

I guess that's what I get for liking black guys.

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Snoogans
09-19-2003, 12:25 PM
Aggie thats fuckin histerical

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Steels
09-19-2003, 12:30 PM
What?? The guy is supposed to pay??!!

I guess that's what I get for liking black guys.



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jamesdiggy
09-19-2003, 07:50 PM
As a traditional guy I always pay on the first date with a woman, it puts them at ease before I apply the chloroform.

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TheGameHHH
09-19-2003, 09:47 PM
What?? The guy is supposed to pay??!!

I guess that's what I get for liking black guys.
first funny post you've had in like 9 months

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monsterone
09-19-2003, 09:58 PM
wwkd - what would kobe do. find a chick with low self-esteem and buy her off everytime you fuc up. bling bling

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keithy_19
09-20-2003, 10:03 AM
Of course the guy pays. I always do, even if I don't have any money on me I always get money to the girl. Its called being a gentlemen. Unless of course the girl telles you she hooked up with this other kid. Then she can pay all the fuck she wants

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Arienette
09-27-2003, 05:06 PM
i agree with those who say that whoever asked should pay. since i guess it's somewhat more common for the guy to ask, it would mean that the guy usually pays.

that being said, if you offer to chip in, you have to do so having it in mind that the other person may take you up on it. i think it was a little tacky of the guy in the scenario to accept her offer to pay, and a lot tacky for him to divide the check up so carefully. but she's a bitch if that's the only reason she doesn't want to see him again.

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Johnny Fontane
09-27-2003, 07:05 PM
I had another one of my flashbacks earlier today. This goes back 20 years.

A friend of mine was dating this girl Carol. She had dumped some other guy (Paul) to go out with my friend John. Apparently Paul took it hard when Carol broke up with him. To be honest, I'm not sure if Paul & Carol were actually in any kind of real relationship. Rumor has it that when she broke up with him, he said something like "but what about the time we went to the movies?" Now obviously this was a pathetic thing for him to say, and obviously we all made fun of him behind his back.

But looking back on it years later, it made me kind of sad. The kid liked this girl, he took her to the movies...I guess he thought that made her his girlfriend, so he was confused when she "left him" for some other guy.

It's the kind of innocent thing that kids today could not possibly relate to.

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10-14-2003, 06:51 PM
I don't care who pays.. so long as I can supersize!

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10-25-2003, 12:03 PM
I pay for the dinner AND the roofies.


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