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Reephdweller
10-09-2003, 02:41 AM
Study: Sonar May Cause Bends in Dolphins

By Patricia Reaney

LONDON (Reuters) - Sonar may cause a type of decompression sickness in whales and dolphins similar to the "bends" in humans, scientists said on Wednesday.

...news story (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20031008/sc_nm/science_dolphins_dc_1)

I guess we should do away with that crazy sonar we use to help protect ourselves and detect our enemies. After all, we wouldn't want to give the poor lil' dolphins tummy aches. The days of our greedy thoughtless acts of defense and safety should come to an end because some goofy oversized insect in the ocean can't handle that goofy sonar.

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fluffernutter
10-09-2003, 04:05 AM
The ocean was the mammals first before it was ours. It will be theirs long after we are gone too.

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A.J.
10-09-2003, 04:39 AM
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JustJon
10-09-2003, 06:12 AM
Flipper gets sick when you flog your dolphin

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Aggie
10-09-2003, 06:12 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, AJ is the King of Simpson's references. LOL


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Yerdaddy
10-09-2003, 06:55 AM
I guess we should do away with that crazy sonar we use to help protect ourselves and detect our enemies. After all, we wouldn't want to give the poor lil' dolphins tummy aches. The days of our greedy thoughtless acts of defense and safety should come to an end because some goofy oversized insect in the ocean can't handle that goofy sonar.

Who are you trying to be a dick to? Are the sea mammals protesting around ships? Or is this just a pre-emptive attack on anyone who might suggest we try to deal with the problem?

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Reephdweller
10-09-2003, 07:58 AM
Who are you trying to be a dick to? Are the sea mammals protesting around ships? Or is this just a pre-emptive attack on anyone who might suggest we try to deal with the problem?



Jesus Christ...Lighten up, most people know I'm a kidder and those that don't should. Try to comprehend the fact that some people try to do a little light-hearted humor on the board once in a while.

For all those who want to make the ascertion that this board is free of cliques that appear on other boards, well this is a perfect example of how one person can say something and act like it's the most horrible statement in history and someone else can say the same thing and it be taken in the jest it was intended.

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TooCute
10-09-2003, 09:08 AM
I'm trying to figure out why yahoo is posting this right now. This has been known for years.

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A.J.
10-09-2003, 09:20 AM
I'm trying to figure out why yahoo is posting this right now. This has been known for years.


Because the issue is relevant to the Navy's desire to deploy very loud low-frequency sonar around the world to detect "quiet" submarines. Also, the Navy is trying to fund and field the new SURTASS-LFA sonar (Surveillance Towed Array Sensor System -- Low Frequency Active). Congress has been mandating that environmental and marine mammal protection concerns be addressed in testing this system.

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TooCute
10-09-2003, 10:10 AM
Because the issue is relevant to the Navy's desire to deploy very loud low-frequency sonar around the world to detect "quiet" submarines. Also, the Navy is trying to fund and field the new SURTASS-LFA sonar (Surveillance Towed Array Sensor System -- Low Frequency Active). Congress has been mandating that environmental and marine mammal protection concerns be addressed in testing this system.


That's my point. Environmental/cetacean groups have been battling about this issue with the Navy/NMFS for years. Why break the story that LFA sonar is bad now?

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A.J.
10-09-2003, 10:24 AM
Perhaps environmental groups want to see the program curtailed in some way.

The FY04 Defense Appropriations Bill made no changes to the program budget request. They got the full $15.3M.

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TooCute
10-09-2003, 11:48 AM
Perhaps environmental groups want to see the program curtailed in some way.

The FY04 Defense Appropriations Bill made no changes to the program budget request. They got the full $15.3M.


Of course they do. However, I have a feeling that the Navy is going to go ahead and do their testing regardless; after all until 1994 they didn't bother to let the NMFS officially know what they were doing or bother to get any permits.

I'm not too current in my info hear, but I seem to recall a few months ago that the NMFS was going to allow the Navy to bypass the MMPA and go ahead and do their testing anyway... I don't quite recall... but still, due to the lack of new developments that I can see, my original comment still stands: Why report this now?

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10-09-2003, 12:18 PM
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Yerdaddy
10-09-2003, 02:44 PM
Jesus Christ...Lighten up, most people know I'm a kidder and those that don't should. Try to comprehend the fact that some people try to do a little light-hearted humor on the board once in a while.
I know you're a kidder, and I thought about that before I posted. But your post didn't sound like humor. If it was then I apologize. But it sounded you were trying to start an "Is it OK to Hate Marine Mammals" thread. It should be absurd enough to be obvious humor, but it looks exactly like a thousand other serious posts from others here.


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Snoogans
10-09-2003, 03:03 PM
i personally think we should stop from sickening the dolphins. we need them at full strength so they can swim into the nets and make our tuna tasty

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Yerdaddy
10-09-2003, 03:17 PM
i personally think we should stop from sickening the dolphins. we need them at full strength so they can swim into the nets and make our tuna tasty

See? That's funny.

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Snoogans
10-09-2003, 03:25 PM
jeez, someone tries to finally be serious on the board and everyone still thinks its just one big joke. i dont know what to do about you guys anymore....

btw, much appreciated yerdaddy

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FUNKMAN
10-09-2003, 03:41 PM
i think Aggie might've caught some of that sonar sickness... check out her sig

i've never seen sickness look so good....

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Reephdweller
10-09-2003, 03:50 PM
I know you're a kidder, and I thought about that before I posted. But your post didn't sound like humor. If it was then I apologize. But it sounded you were trying to start an "Is it OK to Hate Marine Mammals" thread. It should be absurd enough to be obvious humor, but it looks exactly like a thousand other serious posts from others here.



I accept your apology, we're cool. I didn't mean to go off on you, I was trying to find a creative way to bring the topic into discussion and be a little light-hearted about it.

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sr71blackbird
10-09-2003, 04:02 PM
now if we can find a way to keep these fat bastids away from my propeller as I zip through at 40 knots, we'd have something!

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high fly
10-09-2003, 04:06 PM
Are they absolutely sure it's hurting them?
In the pictures, the dolfins look like they're laughing to me.

And that "a-a-a-a-a-a-a" sound they make --definitely a giggle.

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TheMojoPin
10-09-2003, 07:20 PM
I'm sending in UN inspectors to keep tabs on the newly-formed Snoogans/Yerdaddy "Axis of Clique".

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Sovelin
01-05-2004, 07:47 PM
LFA is not the key to national security.

"...the navy now has the ability to detect advanced diesel submarines in littoral waters using passive sonar systems, at ranges they didn't think possible in the past. Therefore, LFA sonar doesn't play a critical role in our national security. It does, however, represent a critical threat to oru oceans' long-term health and shouldn't be deployed." -Rear Admiral Malcolm Fages

Snoogans
01-05-2004, 07:49 PM
I'm sending in UN inspectors to keep tabs on the newly-formed Snoogans/Yerdaddy "Axis of Clique".

so long as DEA dont come send whoever the fuck you want

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Reephdweller
01-05-2004, 08:27 PM
Rear Admiral Malcolm Fages



heh heh heh...he's a rear admiral and a fage!

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furie
01-06-2004, 04:11 PM
The ocean was the mammal's first before it was ours


we are mammals too


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Snoogans
01-06-2004, 04:24 PM
yea, and technically, it belonged to reptiles first anyway


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high fly
01-06-2004, 04:32 PM
Let's see the bastards produce a title deed.

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