Woman Fired for Eating Pork at Work

[LiquidCourage]

This is crazy.

http://www.local6.com/money/3614199/detail.html



"A Central Florida woman was fired from her job after eating "unclean" meat and violating a reported company policy that pork and pork products are not permissible on company premises, according to Local 6 News.

Lina Morales was hired as an administrative assistant at Rising Star -- a Central Florida telecommunications company with strong Muslim ties, Local 6 News reported.

However, 10 months after being hired by Rising Star, religious differences led to her termination.

Morales, who is Catholic, was warned about eating pizza with meat the Muslim faith considered "unclean," Local 6 News reported. She was then fired for eating a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich, according to the report."

[TheMojoPin]

Muslims's can't eat pork? Huh, I thought that was only a Jewish thing...

That's a tricky situation. On the one hand, why the fuck should anyone care what SHE'S eating? Then again, if it IS a private business, they can set the rules. I guess the thinking would be that if someone is eating it, they get the meat on their hands, and then they're spreading the "uncleanliness" around the workplace. Of course, is this somehow violating her civil rights? Not even private companies can do that, and often have to make concessions for people who are the exception to the workplace norm. Than again, she was warned already.

Man, that's screwy. Religion dictating what food you can eat NEVER makes sense. "Cows a scared, pork is evil, no meat on Sunday"...JUST EAT IT ALL, BASTARDS!

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[Duke]

thats just plain crazy....

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[A.J.]

Religion dictating what food you can eat NEVER makes sense.

Indeed. How can there be a God who would create a "wonderful, magical animal" that gives us pork, ham and bacon and then tells us it's "unclean"? Why do you torment us O Lord?!?!

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[jeffdwright2001]

I betcha there was a typo in the Want Ad she responded to.

Wanted:

Administrative Assistant for a predominantly Islhamic telecommunications company. Please send resume and salary expections to PO BOX 227.


That would certainly mislead me.

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[Aggie]

That's just gay. But like Mojo said, if it's private, they can set their own rules. But they probably need to inform their employees a little better. But hey, if they want to fire someone over that and have to hire a new person and train them, etc. more power to them.

Can she get unemployment?



Indeed. How can there be a God who would create a "wonderful, magical animal"

Ha! When Homer said that I lost it. Too funny.

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[Emeril_Dice]

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[Leadbottom]

You guys are sucking up to the Islamic pigs.
ALL companies must conform to labor law and regulations.
Get a job and see what the real world is like.

[TheMojoPin]

ALL companies must conform to labor law and regulations.

And which one does this termination specifically fall under, oh, ye of vague ramblings and rantings?

Get a job and see what the real world is like.

Who the fuck do you think you're talking to, shitbrick?

Outside of kids like Duke and Keithy, pretty much all of us here have to work, and work HARD, for a living, so step the fuck off.

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[Freebird]

I don't remember how it resolved, but wasn't there an incident in the last year where the Catholic church or a Catholic organization was told they could not carry a health plan that did not cover abortions, even though it violates their religious precepts? Is this any different?

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[TheMojoPin]

Is this any different?

Well, for one, this has nothing to do with a health plan.

Don't get me wrong, I think it was incredibly stupid for this woman to be fired this way. I'm just saying, from a legal standpoint, I would think it would be a much different situation from the example you brought up.

I'm fuzzy about religious restrictions/freedoms in a private workplace. A friend of mine worked for the Chick-Fil-A years ago when she was in high school, and apparently they're run by Southern Baptists. She had to join in on a "group prayer" of sorts before the start of a shift, which sounds completely nuts to me, but apparently these people got away with it, or at least they did at the time.

What gives?

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[CruelCircus]

I'd think that this is a pretty easy religious discrimination case to make.
And that trumps the "private company" part, doesn't it?


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[TheMojoPin]

But the REALLY stupid part that comes up is that this could truly effect the company's performance. Like, since this is "unclean," if she's getting greasy bacon all over her fingers, and then goes and handles stuff that some of the other co-workers need for THEIR work, but apparently now they CAN'T touch it because it's "unclean" like the pork...believe it or not, this religious nuttiness is now going to be detrimental to the work performance on a larger scale. So she can keep eating pig, but it might end up getting her fired anyway because the largely islamic company goes out of business.

Man, that's SO stupid on SO many levels.

JUST EAT THE DELICIOUS HOG!

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[jeffdwright2001]

I'd think that this is a pretty easy religious discrimination case to make.
And that trumps the "private company" part, doesn't it?

This is an area where I have absolutely no idea what the answer is.

However under Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:

Employers may not treat employees or applicants less - or more - favorably because of their religious beliefs or practices. For example, an employer may not refuse to hire individuals of a certain religion, may not impose stricter promotion requirements for persons of a certain religion, and may not impose more or different work requirements on an employee because of that employee's religious beliefs or practices.

If I understand correctly, the only ones potentially expempt from this are employer's that are "religious" in nature (a church).

I'm not a lawyer (but we have at least one on the board here), but as a lay person, if I were representing the employer, I would claim that the rule for not eating ham on company property is applied equally to all employees, thus it does not unduely discriminate - providing all employees are informed of this rule at the time of hire.

If I were representing the woman I would probably push the idea that employees cannot be forced to participate (or not participate) in religious activities as a condition of her employment. Not eating meat is in a sense "participating" in the observation of the company's religious policies.

What's really weird here is that I could very easily see a judge deciding that the company would have to offer to lunch areas. One for those observing the non ham eating habits of the Muslims employed, and another for those that do not observe the rule.

Am I completely off base with the above possibilities?

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JUST EAT THE DELICIOUS HOG!


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[UnknownPD]

One for those observing the non ham eating habits of the Muslims employed, and another for those that do not observe the rule.


Yeah you can eat that ham sammich there in the ham sammich room. It's right there behind the door with the picture of the woman on it.

[TheMojoPin]

"That better be one charming motherfuckin' pig."

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[Yerdaddy]

It's like sex between consenting hetorosexual adults in a Catholic church.

Seriously, you can't force employees to conform to religious standards. It's religious discrimination and she'll win the case. And there's probably been the same kinds of terminations and lawsuits with companies owned by Mormons, Baptists, Catholics, Rosecrucians, Church of Ned Beaty's Ass, etc, blah, blah...who gives a fuck?

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[monsterone]

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you'll be hearing from my attorney in the morning! bigot!!!

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[grandzu]

There are a lot of good reasons not to eat pork.


The species barrier between people and pigs may be easier for a virus to cross than previously thought. Also, a pig respiratory tract is receptive to both human and bird flu viruses, making the animal a potential breeding ground in which a mutant virus could evolve and possibly be transmitted to people


Pork is nasty (http://www.mercola.com/2002/sep/25/pork.htm)

But in this matter, her whole case is that she was not given a written statement saying she cannot eat pork within their building. What I am curious about is why did she buy the sandwich, go back to work, go to the cafeteria and eat it there? If she had time to eat in the cafeteria, why not eat it when and where you bought it? Just wondering.

[A.J.]

And there's probably been the same kinds of terminations and lawsuits with companies owned by Mormons

Yeah, but even they will allow smoking and drinking in Marriotts.

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[Doctor Manhattan]

"Are you telling me they fired you because you had something with ham on it?" Local 6 News reporter Mike Holfeld asked.

"Yes," Morales said.

Holfeld asked, "A pizza and a BLT sandwich?"

" Yes," Morales said.


At the same time? Maybe they fired her because the chairs couldn't take the weight.

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[FMJeff]

BLT's are deliciousness supreme. I have a deli near me that makes them just the way I like em...

so good...jeez i want one right now...

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[angrymissy]

Depending on how many employees a company has, they can discriminate. Not sure of the exact number off of the top of my head (15?), but yes, under a certain amount of employees and they can hire only women, men, people of a certain religion, etc.

edit: found it

The ADEA covers all private employers with 20 or more employees, state and local governments (including school districts), employment agencies and labor organizations.

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[Sheeplovr]

yall know that the unclean thing comes from the trichinosis and crap in the meat it was a law to tell people hey dont try to eat this thing youll probaly get sick from it

not some pretend pull it outta your ass rule

it made sence at the time

pluss pork smells so god damm aweful

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[monsterone]

There are a lot of good reasons not to eat pork.


The species barrier between people and pigs may be easier for a virus to cross than previously thought. Also, a pig respiratory tract is receptive to both human and bird flu viruses, making the animal a potential breeding ground in which a mutant virus could evolve and possibly be transmitted to people


just to rip off chris rock for a minute, but we have refrigarators and celliphane now.



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[DarkHippie]

JUST EAT THE DELICIOUS HOG!

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[Yerdaddy]

Depending on how many employees a company has, they can discriminate. Not sure of the exact number off of the top of my head (15?), but yes, under a certain amount of employees and they can hire only women, men, people of a certain religion, etc.

edit: found it

The ADEA covers all private employers with 20 or more employees, state and local governments (including school districts), employment agencies and labor organizations.

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[Tazz]

Aren't you supposed to be against pork too? You heathen.

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[Late2party]

If I understand correctly, the only ones potentially expempt from this are employer's that are "religious" in nature (a church).

And the Lutheran Church lost in a big way a couple of years ago in a broadcasting-related case. Ya can't employ only Lutherans. Write Your Joke Here.

One (lunch area) for those observing the non ham eating habits of the Muslims employed, and another for those that do not observe the rule.

You mean, seperate but equal?

[Leadbottom]

Eating pork offends them but teaching their kids to be suicide bombers is okay? Deport them before it's too late!

[blakjeezis]

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[DeltaPin]

What Swine!