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blakjeezis

03-10-2005, 11:22 PM

HOLY SHIT! This looks like the movie I've been waiting to see since I was 6 years old; and the movie the other 2 prequels should have been.

It must be pretty good, especially since Lucas has the sack to be premiering it at Cannes. After the awful, awful reception of the last 2, to do that takes a shitload of guts.

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Doctor Manhattan

03-11-2005, 01:26 AM

Here's that bit torrent link again... (http://www.torrentreactor.net/download.php?id=5060754) or this one (http://www.torrentreactor.net/view.php?id=5060754)

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fezident

03-11-2005, 02:32 AM

As usual, the trailer looks great. History has taught me to not get TOO excited though.

I'm not just saying this because Ron gripes aboot it but...STOP SHOWING THE WHOLE DAMN MOVIE IN THE TWO MINUTE PREVIEW.
Don't show so many damn highlights! Especially with a visual movie like SW. Leave some suprises for us. We kinda sorta already know the plot. Don't spoil the visuals.
Damn it!

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Justice4all

03-11-2005, 04:14 AM

Ok since I have AOL I was able to watch the trailer thru moviephone..and all I can say is....JESUSMARYANDJOSEPHCHRISTONASTICKTHISLOOKSFUC KINGGREAT!

Oh this movies looks like it will make up for the last TWO!
If the trailer is only 1/2 as good as the movie this will make BILLIONS!
I seriously cannot wait to see this thing 10 times in the theatres.
That guy out in Seattle has the right idea camping out a month ago for tix.

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Doctor Manhattan

03-11-2005, 05:04 AM

Another Fan Made trailer. Star Wars: Episde III: A Lost Hope (http://www.worstkind.com/Swe3_large.mov)

I like they way the guy says "Riiiiiissssseeee" at the beginning.

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TheMojoPin

03-11-2005, 07:28 PM

Is this the trailer? (http://s112352282.onlinehome.us/Ep3Trailer_pixelmagic720.mov)

If it is...what's the big deal?

Shit's same as it ever was.

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badorties

03-11-2005, 07:58 PM

nope ... but that seemed new

the that aired last night was kinda long and was very cool ... it focused a bit more on palpatine and the rise of the empire ...

it also looked like it aired/fleshed out some of the spoilers floating about ...

both trailers kicked ass ...

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badorties

03-11-2005, 08:11 PM

hey, look at what a nerd can do ... (http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Frame_by_Frame_ROTS_Trailer_Description_90252.asp)

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Doctor Manhattan

03-12-2005, 02:09 AM

Mojo, I already posted that one on thursday.

Where did all that footage of Obiwan and Anakin's deul come from?

Looks like they made their own Grevious (I really hope they did, cause it looked fake, more fake that the usual CGI stuff Lucas puts out there)

Some fans have a lot of free time...

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Crippler

03-12-2005, 04:13 AM

I finally got the bit torrent to download (damn you AOL for not sharing! Oh well, just add that to the reasons to hate you), and I must say...
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HOLY SHIT! This looks like the movie I've been waiting to see since I was 6 years old; and the movie the other 2 prequels should have been.
Yes, yes it does....thank God it looks like he got this one right. Looks like we get our payoff for sitting through the first two. Although I still say he owes us the satisfaction of seeing Jar Jar vaporized at some point.

Lastly, my first thought after seeing this freeze frame....
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...great, now Jamie Foxx is going to be in EVERYTHING!

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Doctor Manhattan

03-12-2005, 09:00 AM

Yes, yes it does....thank God it looks like he got this one right.

Now hold on, Remember the first time you saw the teaser trailers for Episode I and Episode II. They both looked great, while the movies didn't hold up.

I am hoping this one will be work but I am only expecting some great visuals and sounds (like TPM and AOTC)

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Crippler

03-12-2005, 02:24 PM

You make a good point, but I guess I'm just a sucker for this film. I couldn't wait for Episode I, but didn't know or care what to expect from it. I couldn't wait for Episode II, but knew I was in for a love story that wouldn't deliver much in the way of paying off a hardcore Star Wars fan.

Now I can't wait for Episode III and I fully expect this movie to pay off. As much as the first two movies were something of a letdown, they were Star Wars & I wouldn't be truthful if I said I didn't enjoy them at all. But this one is going to have to actually show me something because it's the movie I've been waiting most of my life to see. And yet for some reason, I have a feeling it will pay off...I don't know why, but I'm not worried about it. Now, if it sucks, I'll be a raving lunatic, but for now, I'm not worried.

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mothershucker

03-12-2005, 03:48 PM

Nice map of Hawaii.

Ramon, clean thsi up.......

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HBox

03-12-2005, 03:52 PM

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Fucking awesome. I've come to assume I won't enjoy the movie but at least he gets the trailers right.

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TheMojoPin

03-12-2005, 04:57 PM

So is this fucking piece of shit available ANYWHERE that doesn't involve me downloading a seperate program to watch it or signing up for AOL?!?

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mikeyboy

03-12-2005, 05:15 PM

So, I took my kid to see "Robots" today. The Ep. III trailer ran at the beginning. The first two soured me on the series so badly that I have absolutely no interest in seeing this third one. I thought the trailer might make me feel differently.

Nope. Pretty visuals, but eh. I'm 100% sure Lucas is going to fuck this one up too.

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Doogie

03-12-2005, 05:25 PM

So is this fucking piece of shit available ANYWHERE that doesn't involve me downloading a seperate program to watch it or signing up for AOL?!?

If you are such a nancy negative about it then no. No soup for you!! Come back May 19th!!

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fezident

03-12-2005, 06:12 PM

I saw Robots today as well.
The SW preview that showed in the theater today was way longer than the one they're showing online.

The movie will, most likely, be a let-down but that trailer kicks all kinds of ass.

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fluffernutter

03-12-2005, 07:56 PM

...but how was that heaping pile of garbage, Robots.

Sorry but the previews of that just looked mauseating and the character design, dreadful.

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mothershucker

03-12-2005, 09:42 PM

I saw Robots today as well.

FAG!

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badorties

03-12-2005, 10:30 PM

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Justice4all

03-12-2005, 11:33 PM

I know this may be dumn to say...but you all do KNOW why the Chancellor/Emperor is aging so badly right?

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Doogie

03-13-2005, 12:05 AM

I know this may be dumn to say

Just...too...easy, must resist dark side of force to point out a foible or two

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Doctor Manhattan

03-13-2005, 03:20 AM

So is this fucking piece of shit available ANYWHERE that doesn't involve me downloading a seperate program to watch it or signing up for AOL?!?

alt.binaries.starwars

look for the file that's about 31 MB, Title: "otsedom_480_dl.mov" That's the offical one from the starwars site, it's 480x206 pixels.

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Crippler

03-13-2005, 06:06 AM

I know this may be dumb to say...but you all do KNOW why the Chancellor/Emperor is aging so badly right?
Yes, oh Geek Master, we are all aware that the Dark Side causes you to age more quickly & severely...but no one was discussing that.

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Doctor Manhattan

03-13-2005, 07:30 AM

Is he really aging badly? I thought he's naturally in the form of Sidiuos/Emperor (guy in hood) and uses the dark side to hide that and appear to most people as Senator/Chancellor Palpatine. He would then reveal himself in this new film (probably when those Jedi go to arrest him)

How much time passes from Episode I to Return of the Jedi? If Darth Vader is an older man (and started out as a 10 year old boy) then it must be about 40 years or so, right?

If The Darth Sidious we barely see in Episode I is the same guy in Return of the Jedi (if they don't pull any of the Emperor Clone crap) then he's aging pretty well!

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Grendel_Kahn

03-13-2005, 12:57 PM

The Emperor is aging badly because of his corruption by the Dark Side.

As far as timeline goes. The end of this movie is 19 years before the Luke Skywalker ones.

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badorties

03-13-2005, 01:35 PM

How much time passes from Episode I to Return of the Jedi? If Darth Vader is an older man (and started out as a 10 year old boy) then it must be about 40 years or so, right?

the point of reference for the star wars timeline is the battle of yavin ... ep3 takes place 20-ish years prior to it (whatever age luke and leia were) ... and ep6 takes place 4 years after ...

anakin was probably 7 in ep1, that took place 32 years prior to the battle and maybe 45 when he died ...

eh ...

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Doctor Manhattan

03-13-2005, 01:43 PM

The Emperor is aging badly because of his corruption by the Dark Side.

So does he use the dark side to make himself look older when he's darth sidious (wearing black robes and talking to darth maul or count dooku)? He looks old from the first time we see him in episode I (in a hologram) and looks not too far off just before he's killed by Vader in episode VI

As far as timeline goes. The end of this movie is 19 years before the Luke Skywalker ones.

How much time passes from the beginning of Episode I and the end of Episode III (I know there are 10 years n between I and II because Anakin says something about not seeing Padme for 10 years)

Is that whole thing your signature?

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Doctor Manhattan

03-13-2005, 01:47 PM

the point of reference for the star wars timeline is the battle of yavin ... ep3 takes place 20-ish years prior to it (whatever age luke and leia were) ... and ep6 takes place 4 years after ...

so about 36 years from the time we see two Jedi's (Obi Wan and Qui Gon) going to Naboo and meeting Jar Jar (the beginning of the end) to the Ewoks celebrating the fall of the Empire and Luke burning his dad's body?

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badorties

03-13-2005, 03:09 PM

so about 36 years from the time we see two Jedi's (Obi Wan and Qui Gon) going to Naboo and meeting Jar Jar (the beginning of the end) to the Ewoks celebrating the fall of the Empire and Luke burning his dad's body?

more or less, yes ...

and using that timeframe, the empire only really ran the things for twenty years ...

doesn't seem all that impressive anymore ...

So does he use the dark side to make himself look older when he's darth sidious (wearing black robes and talking to darth maul or count dooku)? He looks old from the first time we see him in episode I (in a hologram) and looks not too far off just before he's killed by Vader in episode VI

darth sidious is his true self, he uses the dark side/force to present the image of palpatine ...

the dark side clouds everything ...

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03-13-2005, 04:07 PM

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TheMojoPin

03-13-2005, 05:07 PM

Grendel, please shrink your sig pic to 300 X 100.

Thanks.

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fezident

03-13-2005, 05:07 PM

Ahhh...the seldom seen FEMALE fan of Star Wars. More elusive than even Bigfoot.
Doogie...you shoulda sold the pic to the Enquirer!

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Doctor Manhattan

03-13-2005, 05:37 PM

using that timeframe, the empire only really ran the things for twenty years ...

doesn't seem all that impressive anymore ...

compared to the 1000 years the republic stood. yeah, Palpatine is a bitch!

darth sidious is his true self, he uses the dark side/force to present the image of palpatine ...

the dark side clouds everything ...

yes, that's why I think he's aging quite well, except for that last drop into the heart of the death star.

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Grendel_Kahn

03-13-2005, 08:13 PM

[quote]doesn't seem all that impressive anymore ...

compared to the 1000 years the republic stood. yeah, Palpatine is a bitch![quote]

It took Palpatine 20 years to run things just as well, if not( in some cases) better , as the Republic did in 1000. Looks pretty frikin impressive to me.

As far as the timeline goes:
It is established that Luke is 19 when we meet him in EP4. Stands to reason then, that as Padme is giving birth in EP3 that only 19 years have gone by.

Use of the Dark Force DOES corrupt. We ( will ) see it when we see Anikan using Dark Force stuff, as well as when the Emporer finally lets loose. In the comics the Emporer has a cloning facility, in where he generates clones for HIMSELF, as his "evil" erodes the various bodies away.
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Grendel_Kahn

03-13-2005, 08:23 PM

This size better Mojo?? I'm not real sure on how to make it smaller. I just point the prompt to another website to pop up the image.

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03-13-2005, 08:24 PM

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Justice4all

03-13-2005, 09:43 PM

It took Palpatine 20 years to run things just as well, if not( in some cases) better , as the Republic did in 1000. Looks pretty frikin impressive to me.

As far as the timeline goes:
It is established that Luke is 19 when we meet him in EP4. Stands to reason then, that as Padme is giving birth in EP3 that only 19 years have gone by.

Use of the Dark Force DOES corrupt. We ( will ) see it when we see Anikan using Dark Force stuff, as well as when the Emporer finally lets loose. In the comics the Emporer has a cloning facility, in where he generates clones for HIMSELF, as his "evil" erodes the various bodies away.

And Grendel is the winner.
Only about 40 years passes between when we first meet Palpatine and He gets tossed down the Death Star 2 by Vader. But those 40 years really kicks the shit outta him. He ages very quickly. So YES he does clone himself.
The Emperor looks like a human version of Yoda. But it took yoda 800 years to get to that look...it only takes Palpatine 15-20. (he just looks bad Ep.3 and maintains that look)
I think the only reason Vader was able to keep his power was that his suit was pretty much keeping him alove for god knows how long. Maybe he could be lived another 50-100 years. We never will know now!
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03-13-2005, 09:48 PM

TheMojoPin

03-14-2005, 05:51 AM

Grendel we have a sig request thread in the Lounge...post the pic you want there, and somebody is usually pretty nice and will size them down for you!

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03-14-2005, 06:40 AM

Grendel, how about this?

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03-14-2005, 07:10 AM

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TheMojoPin

03-14-2005, 08:15 AM

Thanks, SKW!

NOW SOMEBODY POST THIS DAMN TRAILER!

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HBox

03-14-2005, 08:24 AM

Here's a link to the trailer. (http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2004/lucasfilm/hyperspace/rednalob_480_dl.mov)

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mikeyboy

03-14-2005, 08:41 AM

...but how was that heaping pile of garbage, Robots.

Sorry but the previews of that just looked mauseating and the character design, dreadful.

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fezident

03-14-2005, 09:01 AM

ROBOTS was a bad movie with simply AMAZING visuals and audio.

This movie, more than any other animated movie, really nailed the "realism" thing. Things that were supposed to be made of plastic actually looked like they were made of plastic. The light reflections and "imperfections" were amazing. The things that were supposed to be made of metal actually looked like they WEIGHED something.
--Which is something that NO OTHER cgi image has ever managed to do--

The movie itself was loud and disjointed. A few funny parts here and there. The rest was noise.

Having said that:
The Episode III trailer (which was considerably longer than the one available online) does look like it's going to deliver the goods. It looks A LOT less day-glo than the previous two.

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TheMojoPin

03-14-2005, 09:32 AM

fezident

03-14-2005, 09:53 AM

OK, I'll admit I want to see this in the theaters even after skipping the last one until it was on HBO.

That said, it all looks so incredibly fake. What is Lucas' reluctance to just make an actual SET like he did in the old films? Or some models? The final space battle in "Jedi" STILL looks infinitely better than anything he's done in the new trilogy. Now it all looks like a giant video game.

True dat!
CGI sucks. It always does.
What I don't understand aboot Lucas is that he feels the NEED to create things digitally that can easily be contructed (or sometimes even found in nature!). I guess if you're trying to shoot a planet made entirely out of lava (GL's vision of "ending the new trilogy in hell") then you do HAVE to use CGI to create it. But, other than that...how aboot finding a f'cking real location please?!
The fields and plains and forests in Episode One look hilariously bad. Almost as if they were modeled after a drawing stuck to his refrigerator by one of his kids. The LOTR trilogy had a million similar shots and they all looked a lot better. Why? Because they were shot on location, damn it!
Lucas can't even find a simple bedroom or boardroom he'd like to shoot in. He always has to "paint" one in the computer. It never looks real. EVER.
He also seems to have something against having the actors actually shoot a scene together. The are always shot seperately and comp'd together. I think he does this to protect plot secrets from being leaked but, still....it looks like shit. Just set up the camera and yell "ACTION!". Jeez christ.

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JerryTaker

03-14-2005, 01:56 PM

(GL's vision of "ending the new trilogy in hell")

or Mordor; then again he's been "borrowing" from Tolkien from the beginning, might as well "borrow" his trailer structure from the Lotr ones as well...

Though I must say I now look forward to the scene where Anakin duels Tyrannus in front of the seated Palpatine (with the air battle going on in the back) I must say Lucas copies his own work much better than he does everyone else's...

I think I also look forward to seeing the Trade Federation heads get the business end of a lightsaber, which may be almost as satisfying as seeing Jar-Jar's head roll around on the floor...

I also can't wait to see Natalie Portman's 30 min hardcore sex scene.... oh wait, that's just in my mind, bah...

 
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TheMojoPin

03-14-2005, 02:26 PM

Who the hell is Tyrannus?!?

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JerryTaker

03-14-2005, 02:38 PM

Christopher Lee's character in Ep II, I actually almost had to IMDB the character's name, but it hit me just before I could hit "new window"

his character was also called Count Dooku, but that's simply unfortunate and I try to ignore that one.

...so here's to the scene where anakin and Tyrannus's sabers cris cross in front of Palpatine as he laughs maniacally.

 
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badorties

03-14-2005, 08:34 PM

But the Jedi didn't realize Dooku's secret. Behind a veneer of elegant charisma and well-tabled political arguments, Dooku had been corrupted by the power of the dark side. After his departure from the Jedi order, Dooku was seduced to the dark side by Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. By Sith tradition, Dooku adopted the name Darth Tyranus and added deceit and treachery to his already formidable array of weapons.

In both guises, Dooku began recruiting agents for what would eventually amount to the death of the Old Republic. As Tyranus, he contacted the notorious bounty hunter Jango Fett to become the template for a hidden clone army on Kamino. As Dooku, he appealed to the greed of the galaxy's most powerful commerce barons to consolidate their forces to challenge the Republic.

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Justice4all

03-18-2005, 05:40 AM

Well...it's official...Luke and Leia will appear as infants in the movie...I read about it in here... (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/18/film.starwars.ap/index.html) so this means the Star Wars:ANH takes place about 15-20 years after Revenge of the Sith.

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Crippler

03-18-2005, 05:55 AM

Good God, man, how long havre you been reading & posting on this board....SPOILER ALERT, WHITE TEXT, SOMETHING!

Otherwise, you'll rooon it for people who want to discuss the movie but don't want to know the whole thing before they walk in to see it!

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Doctor Manhattan

03-18-2005, 06:10 AM

"Revenge of the Sith" presents Anakin in Vader's black get-up only at the very end of the movie, Lucas said.

"Obviously, fans would love to see a movie about Darth Vader running around killing people," said Lucas..."I'm not telling that story, and I'm not interested in that. That's not what the movie is.

Damn it. Then why is Lucasfilm marketing Vader's Red Saber? I hope we do get to see him use it, or else they should only market Anakin's Blue saber. The one he uses in his fight with Obi-Wan which looks just like the one in the original Star Wars (now called Episode IV) that Obi Wan gives to Luke (that Anakin wanted his son to have when he was old enough, I wonder if lucas will remember to have Anakin say that)

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GodsFavoriteMan

03-18-2005, 09:17 AM

Damn it. Then why is Lucasfilm marketing Vader's Red Saber? I hope we do get to see him use it, or else they should only market Anakin's Blue saber. The one he uses in his fight with Obi-Wan which looks just like the one in the original Star Wars (now called Episode IV) that Obi Wan gives to Luke (that Anakin wanted his son to have when he was old enough, I wonder if lucas will remember to have Anakin say that)
/spoiler

What would be the logistics of that conversation? After Anakin is defeated he tells Obi Wan, "Now that I'm dead, would you mind handing this bitch over to my son, you asshole?"

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03-18-2005, 09:27 AM

Yeah, he knows he has a son thinks he's going to die. Anakin would say it when he can no longer fight but isn't dead yet. I'm guessing Anakin looses more limbs
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Or I guess he can keep fighting without them.

A lot of people have a change of heart when faced with death

(Spoiler:)Perhaps if it's not Palpatine that brings him back from near death then he would (Spoiler:)be able to come back to the good side of the force if say, Obi Wan and Yoda were able to repair him I'm just guessing. But since Obi Wan does say Anakin wanted Luke to have it, it would make sense to have that come from something. Lucas always had the conflict between Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader in the plot of these movies at least the outline of it. And he used that scene from 1977's Star Wars (Obi Wan and Luke in Obi Wan's home on Tatooine) in the teaser for Episode III

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GodsFavoriteMan

03-18-2005, 09:35 AM

I just now read that Lucas wants a 3-D version of all the Star Wars movies. He's campaigning for a 3-D movie revival along with James Cameron.

Why??

And God I hope he doesn't make a new 3-D definitive version of Star Wars.

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Contra

03-18-2005, 10:11 AM

I'm guessing Anakin looses more limbs

Well if it plays out like the original story, Anakin is supposed to fall into that "lava" thats splashing around during the Obi-wan/Anakin duel. That's where the need for the suit comes in.

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TheMojoPin

03-18-2005, 05:14 PM

Here's something so dorky it almost made me cry...

THE INJURIES OF DARTH VADER. (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html)

*Sigh*

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TheMojoPin

03-18-2005, 05:17 PM

Damn it. Then why is Lucasfilm marketing Vader's Red Saber? I hope we do get to see him use it, or else they should only market Anakin's Blue saber. The one he uses in his fight with Obi-Wan which looks just like the one in the original Star Wars (now called Episode IV) that Obi Wan gives to Luke (that Anakin wanted his son to have when he was old enough, I wonder if lucas will remember to have Anakin say that)
/spoiler

What would be the logistics of that conversation? After Anakin is defeated he tells Obi Wan, "Now that I'm dead, would you mind handing this bitch over to my son, you asshole?"

Lucas cheapend the whole scene in IV by having Anakin go through like 3 lightsabers in II alone.

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mothershucker

03-18-2005, 06:26 PM

Here is a question for you Star Wars nerds: How is it that Anakin built C3PO, yet when the Luke's Uncle buys him, he has no recolection of the name "Skywalker".

Also, the fucking Jedi should NEVER run the witness protection agency. Luke keeps his name? How the fuck did Anakin not find and kill him?

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badorties

03-18-2005, 06:38 PM

Here is a question for you Star Wars nerds: How is it that Anakin built C3PO, yet when the Luke's Uncle buys him, he has no recolection of the name "Skywalker".

the rumours are the the droids will have their memories erased at the end of SW:III ... the real problem is how come obi-wan has no memory of the droids ... especially one built by his dear friend and the other fought along side in battle ...

Also, the fucking Jedi should NEVER run the witness protection agency. Luke keeps his name? How the fuck did Anakin not find and kill him?

leia was hidden, i guess vader had his own things to tend to than being a dad ...

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TheMojoPin

03-18-2005, 06:55 PM

Obi-Wan is even dumber..."I'll just change my FIRST name! That's the ticket!"

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FMJeff

03-18-2005, 10:50 PM

Also, the fucking Jedi should NEVER run the witness protection agency. Luke keeps his name? How the fuck did Anakin not find and kill him?

Umm, perhaps b/c he was too busy conquering the universe....that's kind of a full time job in and of itself...

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Doctor Manhattan

03-19-2005, 03:53 AM

Or he didn't want to kill his son. He was the one who suggested to Palpatine that Luke could be turned to the dark side after Palps said Luke could be a problem.

I think Lucas changed the dialouge in The Empire Strikes Back to now make it sound like it was the Emperor's idea to bring Luke to the darkside and replace Vader (since Palpatine didn't plan on Anakin's injuries and becoming more machine than man.)

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mothershucker

03-19-2005, 11:53 AM

the real problem is how come obi-wan has no memory of the droids ... especially one built by his dear friend and the other fought along side in battle ...

Yeah! Lucas said from the begining that he wanted to make all nine of the episodes. He also said he wrote them all together. He said the reason he started with IV was because it was the one he thought would suck the general public into it. So going under that, it would only make sense that the continuity of the episodes would make sense.

Eh, who cares.

One other question, what ever happened to the last three episodes? Why did he decide to not finish them?

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badorties

03-19-2005, 06:53 PM

One other question, what ever happened to the last three episodes? Why did he decide to not finish them?

with the prequels turning the focus of the saga from luke to anakin, i guess with ROTJ ending with the redemption of anakin, and the fulfillment of the prophecy, lucas felt the story was complete ...

i you delve into the 'extended universe' the books pick up the story in great detail ...

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curtoid

03-21-2005, 10:37 AM

http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/img/20050304_sm.jpg

"Volume 2" of Cartoon Network's begins this week - five parts / 12 minutes each this time / every night this week at 7pm.

THANK GOD (!) they aren't doing the 20 3-minute parts. Drove me nuts.

"Volume 1" hits DVD (officially) tomorrow.

Clone Wars Volume 2 (http://www.starwars.com/hyperspace/about/news/news20050304.html)

Doctor Manhattan

03-21-2005, 11:14 AM

Wow, I had no idea this was starting up so soon. So it's not spread over 2 sets of 2 weeks this time? I guess there is a bit more storyline this time instead of just having characters with their own action scenes (Mace fighting a bunch of droid, That smiley jedi underwater fighting, etc)

The first 20 episodes are on DVD tomorrow (60 mins total)

Today's the 21st and the 21st episode is on today. mmm.

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Doctor Manhattan

03-21-2005, 04:28 PM

Impressive, Most Impressive.

I liked it except for the gay 3PO crap. Also I miss the « second previews for the next show. The ones that showed just a taste of an action scene. Literally less than a second!

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Doctor Manhattan

03-23-2005, 04:12 AM

Star Wars: Clone Wars Volume 2

I wasn't sure if I should start another thread about the cartoon, so I'm just keeping it here since it's Star Wars and this stuff leads into the 3rd movie.

I found chapter 23 in a newsgroup (a.b.mm.cartoons) but thought that only chapters 21 and 22 have aired so far. Are these airing in other countries first?

For those Cartoon Network Watchers (I've only watched these starwars cartoons and Family Guy on their) what is Toonami? the file I found had that in the corner of the screen, but when I watch the show on TV it only has the CN logo.

In Chapter 22 Anakin is made a Jedi Knight (without going through the "trials" which I would have liked to have seen, since it was mentioned in Episode I) but in the trailer the council tells him that he will not be made a master. Is this just a case where the cartoon doesn't follow the movie or did I miss something.

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Doctor Manhattan

03-27-2005, 03:16 AM

I'm the only Star Wars Geek here?

Star Wars Episode III: <a href="http://members.cox.net/a.f.r.o/Star%20Wars%20Episode%20III%20Revenge%20of%20the%2 0Sith%20Graphic%20Novel.zip">The Comic Book</a> Obviously this is a spoiler filled item. And if this is close to the final movie SPOILERVader fans are going to be pissed with how much screen time he seems to getEND SPOILER

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badorties

03-27-2005, 08:06 AM

thanks for the comic link ...
i was part one of the clone wars yesterday morning, and watched part two last night -- infinitely batter than any of the prequels and loved the mace and obi-wan scene ... i loved how they tied it right into the beginning of EPIII ...
good, geeky stuff ...

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SpicyMcHaggis

03-29-2005, 09:42 AM

Pretty good stuff.  I like the artwork.  I read it this morning in computer class just to pass the time.  Looks like the comic adaptation, as in most cases, is just a real quick way of telling the story.  There's obviously going to be more.  We just don't see it all because they can't make a graphic novel that big.

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badorties

03-30-2005, 06:18 AM

here are cool SPOILER pix from a very nerdy site ... (http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&star t=0)
 

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03-31-2005, 03:02 PM

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03-31-2005, 03:42 PM

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bigbaldirish

03-31-2005, 04:06 PM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 454px; HEIGHT: 114px">the rumours are the the droids will have their memories erased at the end of SW:III ... the real problem is how come obi-wan has no memory of the droids ... especially one built by his dear friend and the other fought along side in battle ... </FIELDSET>
   i haven't looked at this thread until now, but tyhe droids are model numbers. there is millions c-3po's (kinda like build your own models) and R2-D2's c-4po's r2-d4's .........etc. 
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badorties

03-31-2005, 04:07 PM

i read that the other day, enough ppeople in the talkback section seem to discredit it enough ...
with the link mikeyboy posted earlier n this thread and the link to the graphic novel, you get a pretty good idea of what to expect ...
the reviewer's text/language was too forced to follow, and was just plain annoying anyway ...
 

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badorties

03-31-2005, 04:11 PM

<FIELDSET>i haven't looked at this thread until now, but tyhe droids are model numbers. there is millions c-3po's (kinda like build your own models) and R2-D2's c-4po's r2-d4's .........etc. </FIELDSET>
 
that's pretty weak ...
there's tons of droid in the background of these movies -- but only two are in every movie, maketing plan and are among the major characters in the cannon ...
 

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fezident

03-31-2005, 06:07 PM

Nobody has seen the new SW movie.  It's still being edited.  
According to George...a single chronological cut of the film doesn't even exist yet.

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03-31-2005, 08:39 PM

<FIELDSET style="WIDTH: 450px"><LEGEND>QUOTE </LEGEND>
  
  
that's pretty weak ... 
there's tons of droid in the background of these movies -- but only two are in every movie, maketing plan and are among the major characters in the cannon ... 
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why is that weak? that's like saying my Ipod is the only one in the known galaxy, because it's the one i have with my songs on it, when in reality there is most likely millions of others. they just happen to be the focus of the story.
in episode I in the first 10 minutes you see another 3po droid.
 

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badorties

04-01-2005, 03:31 AM

it's weak because lucas has used those two as the (marketing) bridge between the two trilogies ... he even made a point of introducing threepio via anakin ...
and for any sake of continuity, those are the the same droids ...
these are the droids we are looking for
 

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Doctor Manhattan

04-01-2005, 04:21 AM

in episode I in the first 10 minutes you see another 3po droid.

There is also another 3PO-like droid at the very beginning of Star Wars (the original 1977 movie) that is walking along side C3PO in the very fist scene during the attack on the ship)

There is also a white/grey one on Hoth in Empire Strikes Back, and C3PO says hello to another one (gold or silver, I forget) in the cloud city (who beeps something at him, and C3PO says he's rude)

That one in Episode I was a silver one (may not be called C3PO, but something similar, like R2-D2 is the blus droid we know, while Obi Wan has a red one called R4 that attaches to his ship in Episode II)

Obi-wan doesn't deal too much with C3PO or R2 so it's not that out of line for him not to remember him.

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04-01-2005, 05:06 AM

<FIELDSET>the real problem is how come obi-wan has no memory of the droids</FIELDSET>
 
 
Two words: Venereal Disease. It affects the memory especially when untreated.

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SpicyMcHaggis

04-01-2005, 07:09 AM

Here's the deal.

Anakin in Phantom Menace rebuilt a protocol droid known as a C-3PO model.

Only 3PO gets his memory erased, which is why R2-D2 remembers being apart of Obi Wan's history.

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TheMojoPin

04-01-2005, 08:15 AM

We got the movie novelization delivered into my store.
I read the last 40 or so pages.
The Emperor actually says the words, "HAPPY EMPIRE DAY!"
This movie is gonna fucking blow even harder than the last two.

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GingerMinge

04-01-2005, 02:57 PM

The worst thing about all of this is that my favorite Jedi dies in this movie, Plo Koon.
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04-01-2005, 03:03 PM

The Emperor actually says the words, "HAPPY EMPIRE DAY!"

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04-07-2005, 07:23 AM

Anakin on the table from a different angle. Spoiler if you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years I suppose.<a href="http://www.jeditemppeli.net/">http://www.jeditemppeli.net/</a>My link can beat up your link.

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badorties

04-07-2005, 07:55 AM

when i read mojo's quote of "happy empire day," i was a bit skeptic ... but now, i've seen it elsewhere -- ugh, i say ...Palpatine: Ah, Master Yoda. May I be first to wish you a Happy Empire Day!ugh, ugh & ugh ...

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04-08-2005, 07:14 AM

quote: The worst thing about all of this is that my favorite Jedi dies in this movie, Plo Koon Well, unless your favorite Jedi is Yoda, Obi-Wan or Anakin then you're gonna be disappointed. quote: ...and for any sake of continuity, those are the the same droids Yeah, we are all saying it's the same droids, I just feel that Obi-Wan doesn't remember C3PO because he's just one of a million protocol droid he's seen in his life, same with R2. quote: Looks like the comic adaptation, as in most cases, is just a real quick way of telling the story. There's obviously going to be more. We just don't see it all because they can't make a graphic novel that big. I've taken a look at the "Illustrated Screen Play" and the Novel form of Episode III (I can post the screenplay in a pdf file if you guys want it) and it looks like (spoiler:)Vader doesn't get to do much more than he does in the comic book:  Palpatine saves him after Obi Wan has cut off his Legs and mechanical arm, Palpatine rebuilds him as the Vader we all love, Vader asks about Padme, Palpatine tells him he killed her, Vader gets a wee bit angry.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" border="0" /> You also get a shot of Palp in the bridge of a star destroyer standing with Vader and a younger Grand Moff TarkinSo you don't get to see Vader use a lightsaber.Sorry folks!<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/wwjbd.jpg" border="0" /> "We're putting the band back together."</a>

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04-08-2005, 07:47 AM

i'm slightly confused ... does anakin become vader with the suit and mask, or is it when succumbs to the dark side ...? 

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Doctor Manhattan

04-08-2005, 07:54 AM

That's the weird thing, From what I remember, the novel keeps referring to him as Anakin and Vader during the duel but I didn't see a pattern (this wasn't dialouge, just descriptions of who was doing what). zpoiler text:During the film while Anakin isn't totally messed up (just a scar or two from the Clone Wars) Palpatine takes Anakin as his Apprentice and gives him the name "Darth Vader".The Illustrated Screenplay keeps calling him Anakin until he has on the black suit and mask.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/wwjbd.jpg" border="0" /></a> "We're putting the band back together."

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Doctor Manhattan

04-09-2005, 02:17 PM

The Soundtrack has been "leaked" and can be found on alt.binaries.starwars

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fezident

04-09-2005, 02:25 PM

GL is the king of pre-releasing stuff.I remember back in 99 there was some backlash because the PHANTOM MENACE soundtrack came out a few weeks before the movie and one of the songs was called "Death Of Qui-Gon Jin".  People were pissed that the soundtrack would reveal such a huge spoiler.Also, I read the PHANTOM MENACE book before the movie was released and it was NOTHING like the movie.  Entire scenes and events were different, omitted, and/or changed.  He prob knew that if that book was released AFTER the movie came out...nobody would buy it.

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TheMojoPin

04-09-2005, 03:19 PM

People assumed he WASN'T going to die?What a bunch of tools.  Of COURSE he was going to die...it was inevitable a character like that was going to die since he didn't show up in the later trilogy.  Yeah, Lucas "spoiled" that he would die in the first film, but big, fat, fucking hairy deal.  His death was inevitable and obvious.Oh, and the script is supposedly out there online.  I glanced over it and saw the "happy Empire Day" line in all its glory.SUCK ON IT!

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fezident

04-09-2005, 04:02 PM

Yes, Mo. Nobody knew he was going to die.  Not right there in a sword fight in THAT particular episode.  Personally...I didn't care either way but, I definitely don't think his death was obviously implied.  Having said that...I hope there is a song called "Death of JarJar Binks" on the new soundtrack.  THAT would be a welcome spoiler.

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TheMojoPin

04-09-2005, 08:51 PM

OK, the fact that the original trilogy went out of its way to beat us over the head that outside of Luke, Leia, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader and The Emperor there WERE NO JEDI LEFT ALIVE IN THE ENTIRE goddamn galaxy should be a TINY hint that ANY Jedi in the new trilogy has a life span of next to nil.Posting in this thread is a nightmare, technically speaking.

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fezident

04-10-2005, 02:00 AM

Right. We all knew he was going die. But, the reveal on the soundtrack meant that he wasn't going to be in Episode II or III.  People thought THAT was kinda irresponsible of George to leak a huge plot point by way of the friggin' soundtrack.  Especially the peeps that try to avoid all spoilers.  I just watched that movie the other day to get "ready" for EpIII.  Holy shiz...that is one BAD movie with some of the worst acting I can think of.  It's like a really good high school play.

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TheMojoPin

04-10-2005, 07:34 PM

***HUGE INTERNET SPOILERS REVEALED!!!***              Anakin is destined to be consumed by the Dark Side.  It will be a hard knock life for Annie, as he grows to become the most evil man in the universe, Darth Vader.<img src="http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/superfights/Darth_Vader.jpg" border="0" />So even though he's won countless World Championships, ended Yokozuna's career, crippled Sting, and made spandex with your motto on it no laughing matter, Darth Vader is destined to job to every person in the WWF and Star Wars Universe, until he is eventually defeated on live TV, where his fishnet mask is removed to reveal the withered form of James Earl Jones.  There will be a really obscure reference to "The Bingo Long Traveling All-Stars & Motor Kings," and then he'll die.  Oh well.      <img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

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Doctor Manhattan

04-16-2005, 09:13 AM

So, is Boba Fett in this thing? I haven't heard anything about that (I thought maybe Boba would kill Mace to avenge his dad)

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Doctor Manhattan

04-18-2005, 10:03 AM

quote: I've taken a look at the "Illustrated Screen Play" and the Novel form of Episode III (I can post the screenplay in a pdf file if you guys want it) and it looks like (spoiler:)Vader doesn't get to do much more than he does in the comic book: Palpatine saves him after Obi Wan has cut off his Legs and mechanical arm, Palpatine rebuilds him as the Vader we all love, Vader asks about Padme, Palpatine tells him he killed her, Vader gets a wee bit angry.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/furious.gif" border="0" /> You also get a shot of Palp in the bridge of a star destroyer standing with Vader and a younger Grand Moff TarkinSo you don't get to see Vader use a lightsaber.Sorry folks!I was listening to the "Theforce.net" podcast and then mentioned that Rick McCallum has stated that there have been a number of changes made to the film since the release of the Novel/Comic Book/Screenplay and that now (spoiler:)Vader has more screen time. 

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badorties

04-19-2005, 06:10 AM

i just watched the three new trailers, and to coin a popular phrase, "i've got a bad feeling about this" ...the trailers (especially the voiceover) seems to be on the silly side ... on one hand, they keep harping the dark tones, and the other the other there's lego and ice pop tie-ins ... i'm confused as to the overall tone of the flick ...is it the great tragedy we hope it to be (and to an extent hyped to be) or is it a mass marketed CGI blockbuster with a predictable, sad ending ...?

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Doctor Manhattan

04-19-2005, 06:15 AM

Is it a sad ending if we don't really care about Anakin? Now we do care about Darth Vader.

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badorties

04-23-2005, 10:20 AM

baby luke ...<img height="217" src="http://www.babycompanion.com/images/star-wars-baby-3.jpg" width="500" border="0" /> the 'harry potter' scene ...<img height="225" src="http://www.babycompanion.com/images/star-wars-baby-2.jpg" width="500" border="0" /> like, uncle owen and aunt beru ...<img height="217" src="http://www.babycompanion.com/images/star-wars-baby-1.jpg" width="500" border="0" />.

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mothershucker

04-23-2005, 12:42 PM

What is a "sith"?

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Doctor Manhattan

04-23-2005, 02:29 PM

<a href="http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thesith/" target="_blank">A bad Jedi</a>. I don't remember that term being used in the original trilogy.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/wwjbd.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"We're putting the band back together."</a>

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GodsFavoriteMan

04-26-2005, 05:37 AM

I just got done watching seasons one and two of Clone Wars.  My God, it's everything I ever wanted this trilogy to be.  Hopefully episode three will follow in it's path.

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badorties

04-26-2005, 05:55 AM

yep ...the good news is that after EPIII the same team will produce a spinoff of one of the major 'clone wars' characters ... i'm hoping obi-wan.

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badorties

04-26-2005, 06:12 AM

I don't remember that term being used in the original trilogy.i've always remembered vadar being referred to as the '(dark) lord of the sith' ... i did a little research: in the scripts for the original trilogy, vadar is referenced as a sith, sith knight and his ship his noted as a 'sith ship' -- but there's no dialogue that mentions it ....

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Doctor Manhattan

04-26-2005, 06:29 AM

quote: yep ... the good news is that after EPIII the same team will produce a spinoff of one of the major 'clone wars' characters ... i'm hoping obi-wan  I think he meant Episode III the movie, are you talking about a 3rd season of the cartoon?The movie probably won't be as good as the cartoon (since it's still Lucas directing it)I guess a 3rd seaon of the cartoon couldn't be called "Clone Wars" since the war ends as the 3rd movie begins.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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GodsFavoriteMan

04-26-2005, 06:42 AM

The third season is already ongoing.  And it's even better than seasons one and two (I downloaded the new episodes off of KLR).  Each chapter is 12 minutes long and shows the actual friendship between Obi Wan and Anakin since the first season opens with Anakin becoming a Jedi Knight. This is absolutely great stuff.

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Doctor Manhattan

04-26-2005, 06:56 AM

quote: The third season is already ongoing.  And it's even better than seasons one and two (I downloaded the new episodes off of KLR).  Each chapter is 12 minutes long and shows the actual friendship between Obi Wan and Anakin since the first season opens with Anakin becoming a Jedi Knight.  Cartoon Network made this a little confusing:The Third Season is the one that opened with Anakin becoming a Jedi Knight (Yoda cutting off his braid, while the other jedi are in a circle with their lightsbabers pointed up) the first two seasons had him as Obi Wan's PadawanThe First Volume (which is on DVD now as one set of shows) was divided into Two Seasons of Ten 3-5 minute episodes each when they originally aired over two 2 week periodsThe Second Volume (Third Season) was just 5 episode spread over a week. Fewer shows but longer episodes. They ended with the opening shot of the Movie (Episode III)The Second Volume  explains why Anakin has a different Mechanical Arm (which look a lot less like C3PO's arm in Episode I) then at the end of Episode II and how Palpatine ends up where he is at the beginning of the movie (not really a spoiler since it's in the opening crawl, but it's cool that they show it in the cartoon) 

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badorties

04-26-2005, 06:58 AM

I think he meant Episode III the movie, are you talking about a 3rd season of the cartoon?sorry, i was referring to the cartoons ... which are just amazing ...The third season is already ongoing.that's the second season ... the split the first season into two sets of ten short episodes, the second season has the ten 12 minute episodes ....

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GodsFavoriteMan

04-26-2005, 07:03 AM

quote:  quote: I think he meant Episode III the movie, are you talking about a 3rd season of the cartoon?  sorry, i was referring to the cartoons ... which are just amazing ...quote: The third season is already ongoing.  that's the second season ... the split the first season into two sets of ten short episodes, the second season has the ten 12 minute episodes ....<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=badorties" border="0" />  Ah, is that the case?  I just downloaded them as "complete season 1" and so on.  Doesn't really matter, what's amazing is just how much better everything is from the acting, dialogue, to even the love story.  Hell, even the intentional humor is actually funny. 

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Doogie

04-27-2005, 01:33 AM

Ok if you want to know why episode III opens the way that it does get this book!!!<img title="Labryinth of Evil" height="500" alt="Labryinth of Evil" src="http://www.ffbooks.co.uk/images/n24/n122905.jpg" width="329" border="0" /> A lot of the other clone war novels will have some bearing on the movie, maybe a reference here, a flashback there. But this book is all the events that happen immeadiatly before Ep III and will help make greater sense of the opening. I couldnt put it down, I read the last 150 pages in a two hour time frame, it flew that much.

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fezident

04-27-2005, 03:49 AM

I've been a psycho Star Wars megafan since 1977 but, I just CAN NOT get into the novels.  Anything that takes place in that expanded universe simply doesn't feel like SW to me.  I've looked at a few over the years.  Lots of unpronouncable names....I think Han & Leia have twins or somethin'.... and most importantly...THERE IS NO CONTINUITY!!!  The books are like an entirely different story that just happens to have some of the elements (lightabers, the force, etc).It's kinda like the new Honeymooners remake.  Yeah...it has characters named Ralph and Norton and Alice but, other than that, it's a movie that exists outside of the original Honeymooners "universe".  Lame. If you're telling me that THIS book is a valid entry into the SW universe that we all know from the movies...then I will check it out.  But the minute I see a main character with a name like " T'xhon " who is more powerful than every Jedi who ever lived or died ...I am outta there!

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Doctor Manhattan

04-27-2005, 04:11 AM

Doesn't Clone Wars (The Cartoon) already show us how Episode III opens? It literally brings us to the opening shot of the movie and shows us why Anakin and Obi Wan are doing what it is they are doing when the movie begins.

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ChildofFez

04-27-2005, 04:45 AM

So, is Boba Fett in this thing? I haven't heard anything about that (I thought maybe Boba would kill Mace to avenge his dad) Boba is still a kid during this movie so he is not going to be in it he doesn't become a bounty hunter until much later in life..he actually isnt that much older than luke or leia so your not going see a little boba fett

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04-27-2005, 04:47 AM

quote: Doesn't Clone Wars (The Cartoon) already show us how Episode III opens? It literally brings us to the opening shot of the movie and shows us why Anakin and Obi Wan are doing what it is they are doing when the movie begins.  If it follows the novel for Episode III, then yes. 

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Doctor Manhattan

04-27-2005, 04:56 AM

quote: quote: Doesn't Clone Wars (The Cartoon) already show us how Episode III opens? It literally brings us to the opening shot of the movie and shows us why Anakin and Obi Wan are doing what it is they are doing when the movie begins.  If it follows the novel for Episode III, then yes. Then why would we need to get that other novel (Labrinth of Evil) 

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Doogie

04-27-2005, 05:59 AM

THERE IS NO CONTINUITY!!!  The books are like an entirely different story that just happens to have some of the elements (lightabers, the force, etc).Ok that is a whole different thing than what I was writing about. Those were the old Bantam Spectra books, and yes they had a lot of inconsistencies, and too much play on the force and who was strong and wasnt etc. In my opinion the X-Wing Series and the Thrawn Series are worth checking out there. But all those novels take place AFTER Return of the Jedi, whether one day or 18 years after it, they all take place after ROTJ. Del Rey came out with a series of books known as the "New Jedi Order", and that had all sorts of continuity, well worth checking out. Now onto the novel I recommended, it is in continuity with the cartoons and the movies and what not. As a matter of fact the book makes many references to battles that took place in the cartoons, and they have a total in depth take on what happens leading right up to the opening credits on Episode III. All the characters from the Prequel movies, and the cartoons are there. And the intricate detail that James Luceno does with describing General Grievous is sure to please many. I highly recommend checking it out, the book flies in the last 20 chapters. And the chapters at times are relativly short.

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badorties

04-27-2005, 06:15 AM

i can't stand the concept of the 'extended universe' ... tell the the story within the context of the movie, and don't force a fan to reach out to other media for the understanding of plots and characters ...the matrix is pullling this crap, too ...i loved the clone wars, the comics/graphic novels might be interesting -- but, i can't be sitting on the subway reading star wars novels ...that's a slippery slope that i'm not comfortable approaching ... i'll wake up one day reading a klingon training manual ....<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=badorties" border="0" /> 

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Doctor Manhattan

04-27-2005, 06:24 AM

quote: the matrix is pullling this crap, too ... At least the W Brothers had a hand in all that extra stuff

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04-27-2005, 06:46 AM

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badorties

04-27-2005, 06:49 AM

i tried to access the smith posting ... but the site was downi did see this very sad article ...<a href="http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=141150580&p=y4yy5yz86" target="_self">Hollywood mogul George Lucas struggled so much with writing the screenplay for final Star Wars installment Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, he had to force himself to stick to a rigid working day as he sought inspiration.</a> .

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Doctor Manhattan

04-27-2005, 06:53 AM

So the movie is finished? I thought he was editing right up until he had to turn over the movie to be made into thousands of prints to ship to theaters. I remember that with Episode II he actually was making changes past that point, so people who saw the movie digitally projected saw a more "final" cut of the film (Anakin's Robot Hand being held by Padme, etc).

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Doogie

04-27-2005, 07:36 AM

i can't stand the concept of the 'extended universe' ... tell the the story within the context of the movieThey do stay within the context of the story. They follow the continuing story of Luke, Leia and Han and their struggle to go from Rebellion to government, better known as the New Republic. There are many tales of warlords who tried to fill the void of the passing of the emperor (the best being Thrawn). Some of the plot lines are smarmy with new superweapons like the 'Sun Crusher' and Death Star prototype, those stunk. But the X-Wing series was interesting in that they diverted from Han, Luke and Leia to follow a minor character FROM the movies, Wedge Antillies, and his attempts to rebuild 'Rogue Squadron'. You see how the New Republic took back Coruscant and other core worlds and the depridations of Isard (who is the daughter of an intelligence agent that serves Palpatine in the movies). Dont be so close minded, give them a try.

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Doctor Manhattan

04-27-2005, 08:47 AM

quote:  Dont be so close minded, give them a try. Nope, Books suck <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbdown.gif" border="0" /> Reading is for suckers!

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fezident

04-27-2005, 11:00 AM

Alright Doog....I'll check it out (AFTER I see EpIII.)  As long as you promise I'm not gonna read about some magic crystal that was stolen 3999 years before the Battle of Yavin. 

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Crippler

04-27-2005, 11:06 AM

quote: Alright Doog....I'll check it out (AFTER I see EpIII.)As long as you promise I'm not gonna read about some magic crystal that was stolen 3999 years before the Battle of Yavin. <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "I'm looking for the 'Make Believe Ballroom'....Don't get fresh, Buddy!" Why not Yavin?! <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/71172486.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" /> <img src="http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/857148/1548180/93558379.jpg" border="0" />

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badorties

04-27-2005, 12:16 PM

a really cool spoiler from kevin smith:And, hands-down, the best link-up to "Star Wars" moment that I enjoyed the most: Bail Organa and Yoda stepping into the hallway of the Rebel Blockade Runner that opened "Star Wars". Unlike all the high-tech CGI wizardry of the rest of the prequel Trilogy, this is a low-tech looking set, right out of circa '77, and for some reason, it really captured my imagination. I mean, this is the same exact hallway in which we got our first look at Vader, oh so many years ago, and I appreciated the hell out of Mr. Lucas including it - because it really felt like a nod to the hardcores. .

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fezident

04-28-2005, 03:55 AM

My wife and I have tickets to an advance "Media Screening" the day before the movie is officially released. Hayden Christensen, who apparantly has family here in Toronto, is going to be in the audience with us.So....does this mean is definitely should or should not wear my Darth Vader Voice Changing Mask to the movie?

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Doctor Manhattan

04-28-2005, 05:37 AM

You know there will be others wearing Star Wars stuff. I'm bringing my Blue and Red Lightsabers (The kind that actually light up, brightly) Switching from Blue to Red, once they say the name "Vader"

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TheMojoPin

04-28-2005, 06:32 AM

BAD DOG!STOP BEING GAY!!!

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badorties

04-28-2005, 06:33 AM

Switching from Blue to Red, once they say the name "Vader"wow, you just took this to a whole new level ....

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mothershucker

04-28-2005, 07:21 AM

So....does this mean is definitely should or should not wear my Darth Vader Voice Changing Mask to the movie?Does not matter one way or the other, but please, ask that no talent if he can take a couple of the millions he made off this to take some acting lessons.

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Doctor Manhattan

04-28-2005, 07:29 AM

You guys know I was just kidding, right? I only own a red Lightsaber    again, just kidding.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" /><a href="http://www.planet-familyguy.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.planet-familyguy.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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badorties

04-28-2005, 08:13 AM

i'm not sure if this was mentioned, but where is all the heat between uncle owen and obi-wan ...?in the original movie there seems to be hostility toward obi-wan for taking anakin on 'foolish' adventures accross the galaxy ... we know now from the prequels that anakin and owen barely knew each other ... the whole daynamic of owen, beru and luke has been negated ... i always got the impression that anakin was stolen away from the harvest season by obi-wan, and owen didn't want that for luke ... now with the prequels, obi-wan did the best he could by giving luke a safe home -- does owen resent the extra mouth to feed, why not be a bit more appreciative of the help on the farm ...?damn, damn lucas ....

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East Side Dave

04-28-2005, 08:20 AM

I hope Yoda vomits in this one; then says, "Ahhhhhh, damned space sickness!!"

Make it happen, G.L.

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Doctor Manhattan

04-28-2005, 09:07 AM

quote: i'm not sure if this was mentioned, but where is all the heat between uncle owen and obi-wan ...?in the original movie there seems to be hostility toward obi-wan for taking anakin on 'foolish' adventures accross the galaxy ... we know now from the prequels that anakin and owen barely knew each other ... the whole daynamic of owen, beru and luke has been negated ... i always got the impression that anakin was stolen away from the harvest season by obi-wan, and owen didn't want that for luke ... now with the prequels, obi-wan did the best he could by giving luke a safe home -- does owen resent the extra mouth to feed, why not be a bit more appreciative of the help on the farm ...?It should have been addressed more, but I think it's just the fact that he views Obi-Wan as a direct link to Anakin (the angry teen he met in Episode II), and Owen doesn't want Luke to follow the same path. <a href="http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/501stgroup1.jpg"><img src="http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/501stgroup1.jpg" width="350" border="0" /></a> Click to enlarge!Do you think these guys will dress up to see the movie? will all the vader keep their hands on their belts like that the whole time? Oh, that guy in the middle in front, is the guy from the episode II (Padme's security dude) <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a> 

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IamFogHat

04-28-2005, 09:37 AM

I love nerds

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TheMojoPin

04-28-2005, 01:59 PM

Someone give Vader some pockets.

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East Side Dave

04-28-2005, 02:39 PM

If they gave Vader pockets it'd be great if he stored a Darth Vader pez dispenser (which I have, suckers!) in one of them. That shit would be like a Salvador Dali painting if Dali painted about candy and sci-fi villains!<img src="http://www.richstillwell.com/ESD.gif" border="0" /> Big Ass Mafia Click <a href="http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/thenight/ppr/index.shtml" target="blank">this link </a>to hear my show on 90.5 The Night FM; Friday and Saturday Night: Midnight to 5 AM you bastards!

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Gmann

04-28-2005, 03:25 PM

Wow....one of those guys in the nerd pic has a real lightsaber. He must have gotten straight A's in science class.

fezident

04-28-2005, 03:35 PM

Exactly WHAT is that a photo of?  Is that a fan gathering?  Are they movie extras??  Wow.  And I thought I was a geek just because I have The Darth Tater Mr. PotatoHead!

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Crippler

04-28-2005, 03:49 PM

quote: And I thought I was a geek just because I have The Darth Tater Mr. PotatoHead!<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "I'm looking for the 'Make Believe Ballroom'....Don't get fresh, Buddy!" Me too!!  NICE!! 

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TheMojoPin

04-28-2005, 03:54 PM

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Doctor Manhattan

04-28-2005, 05:25 PM

quote: Exactly WHAT is that a photo of?  Is that a fan gathering?  Are they movie extras??  Wow.  And I thought I was a geek just because I have The Darth Tater Mr. PotatoHead!   That is from Celebration 3, The offical Star Wars convention (they've held one before each of the 3 new films) Looks silly with all those vaders.I have a Darth Tater too. They are going to have those Star Wars M&M's as figures, I'll end up getting a couple of those too. 

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badorties

04-28-2005, 05:53 PM

That is from Celebration 3, The offical Star Wars convention (they've held one before each of the 3 new films) Looks silly with all those vaders.yeah, it's the vadars that makes that look silly ...when did the imperial army succumb to quotas ... are those hiring practices covered in the novels ...?. 

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fezident

04-30-2005, 06:22 AM

It's official: Star Wars fans will buy ANYTHING.<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=99975&item=6526951008&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=99975&item=6526951 008&rd=1</a>

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Doctor Manhattan

05-01-2005, 09:19 AM

Well, I thought it would be a great investment. Now I need to move my cars out of my garage...<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=99975&item=6528761430&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW" target="_blank">Now I'm going to bid on this one (Same Seller)</a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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GodsFavoriteMan

05-03-2005, 01:13 PM

I just downloaded the ROTS soundtrack.  It's great stuff, but I'm a John Williams fan.  But what caught my interest (and I think any Star Wars music lover--be there any on this board) is the use of the music from A New Hope at the end and during the credits, including Leia's theme.  Yes, I am a geek, and this is my confession.

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badorties

05-03-2005, 01:33 PM

if you buy the soundtrack, there's a bounus DVD with a greatest hits of his star wars work set to various clips of the collective sagas ...the one interesting thing was the updated rising vader pic ...<img height="596" src="http://www.aintitcool.com/images/sw_epIII/vader-babyhands_big.jpg" width="458" border="0" />

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fezident

05-03-2005, 02:09 PM

What is updated about that Darth photo?  I don't see any differences.

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Tenbatsuzen

05-03-2005, 02:33 PM

quote: What is updated about that Darth photo?  I don't see any differences.  "I'm looking for the 'Make Believe Ballroom'....Don't get fresh, Buddy!" Arms are by his sides instead of that completely 1000 percent even Mojo says "whoa" fag bondage position.

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fezident

05-03-2005, 03:06 PM

PUTTING HIS ARMS DOWN IS AN "UPDATE"?!  Does that mean that even the decision to put his arms at his sides is a f'cking digital special effect?!!I looked at the two photos and just assumed that the actor in the suit made the "decision" to lower his own arms.  I guess Lucas had to make that decision for him.  Man...if Lucas is actually spending time making decisions like THIS...then this movie really IS going to suck. JeezChrist.

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Doctor Manhattan

05-03-2005, 04:16 PM

It looks like his arms were bound in the postition (as seen in the teaser trailer) I noticed the new shot in the video game footage (on alt.biniares.starwars)It's not really an update since the movie isn't released yet.It's called editing, and yes, directors/editors do spend their time thinking about little things like that, it's how people make movies. You have to spend a long time on each shot and consider how things look and sound as well as how the story is flowing, does the dialouge make sense, does the music fit, is everything chronolgically correct, costumes, makeup, are objects in the shot that shouldn't be there, is the lighting correct, etc.When you go back 20+ years later and make changes, then you can call it an update.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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GodsFavoriteMan

05-03-2005, 04:35 PM

OMG!!  Lucas is changing teh m0vie b4 its releeesd?  Teh fscking ghey!! 

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fezident

05-03-2005, 05:01 PM

Hey, I'm all about aiming for perfection.  As a session musician, I've often obsessed over the smallest of sonic details.Having said that; GL most definitely does NOT have his priorities in order. There have been some HUGE plot inconsistencies and some even worse special FX over the course of the saga.  Especially, those last two installments!!I so badly want EpIII to kick ass.  I haven't even seen the film and I can guarantee that there will be SEVERAL things wrong with it that are MORE IMPORTANT than digitally removing Darth Vaders arm shackles!

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TheMojoPin

05-03-2005, 05:48 PM

Jeepers!This sure fixed everything!WOW!!!!!!

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HBox

05-03-2005, 07:50 PM

You know, Lucas has been
saying over and over that kids shouldn't see this movie, but there's an
awful lot of marketing to kids going on. Promotions with 7/11 for
slurpees, M&M promotion, and promotions for kids cereal, and this
is only the stuff I've noticed. If you are going to say that you're
film isn't for kids, shouldn't you avoid this over the top massive
marketing to kids? 


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FMJeff

05-03-2005, 08:55 PM

quote: You know, Lucas has been saying over and over that kids shouldn't see this movie, but there's an awful lot of marketing to kids going on. Promotions with 7/11 for slurpees, M&M promotion, and promotions for kids cereal, and this is only the stuff I've noticed. If you are going to say that you're film isn't for kids, shouldn't you avoid this over the top massive marketing to kids? <img src="http://img255.echo.cx/img255/5972/mariosig8fk.jpg" border="0" /> Yes HBOX, because avoiding hypocrisy and overexposure factors into every lucrative business decision made by George Lucas. Kinda brings up fond memories of the scene in Spaceballs where they Yogurt was describing all the merchandise they were going to sell....hilarious...

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Doctor Manhattan

05-04-2005, 03:48 AM

quote: I haven't even seen the film and I can guarantee that there will be SEVERAL things wrong with it that are MORE IMPORTANT than digitally removing Darth Vaders arm shackles! Well, first thing, how do you know this was a digital edit? I would think they filmed that shot a few times with minor changes like arm position or perhaps they would be able to just go back and film some guy in a vader suit on that set again. Second thing, do you guys really think a lot of time was spent on this choice? He is making changes like this to every scene in the film, it's the same thing most people do when making a movie. Not everyone can do it as quickly as Ed Wood. Every movie is full of minor details that have to be decided on by the director and/or the editor. That's why post production of a 2 hour film takes a lot longer than those 2 hours, you spend days on just a few seconds/minutes of the film.The final film isn't out and George had time to change his mind again and we could end up with Vader's arms back like they were in teaserThird thing, yeah, there are going to be a lot of things wrong when you look at how this movie fits in between Episode II and IV. But you can't blame it on Lucas making a choice like which take of a certain shot in the film ends up being in the film. Blame it on Lucas' poor writing skills. Side note. Someone posted the X-Box game cut scenes on alt.binaries.starwars and there is an intresting little "what if" segement included. Spoiler What if Anakin won the battle against Obi-Wan, you only see what happens directly afterward, but it would make for an intresting side project, what would Episodes IV-VI be like if Anakin won?End spoiler 

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badorties

05-04-2005, 06:21 AM

You know, Lucas has been saying over and over that kids shouldn't see this movie, but there's an awful lot of marketing to kids going on. Promotions with 7/11 for slurpees, M&M promotion, and promotions for kids cereal, and this is only the stuff I've noticed. If you are going to say that you're film isn't for kids, shouldn't you avoid this over the top massive marketing to kids?well, he's invested his own money into the movie ... and all this marketing is just to protect his return ...

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Doctor Manhattan

05-04-2005, 08:15 AM

Lucas has made so much money to this point that he doesn't need to "regain" the money he spends on Episode III. After Star Wars III, he'll keep making money from other projects that THX, ILM, Skywalker Sound work on.So call him a hypocrite. Don't take your kids to the film. Don't buy them the toys either. Parent!This is the movie were Anakin becomes Darth Vader, he goes evil, how are you going to do that well and make it "kid safe""Fuck the Kids"<img height="250" src="http://www.cgtv.com/entertainment/images/carlin.george.jpg" width="182" border="0" /><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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TheMojoPin

05-04-2005, 01:10 PM

I love that the underlying message of all this is, "hey, isn't genocide fuckin' AWESOME?!?"This mass grave is brought to you by Taco Bell!

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curtoid

05-04-2005, 04:13 PM

Two Geek Questions about the original STAR WARS ("Episode IV: A NEW HOPE") *
When they escape in the Falcon, Princess Leah says that it was too easy
and that odd are they are tracking them; so, knowing this, they still
fly right to the rebel's hideout?! WTF? Why wouldn't they rush
somewhere - change ships - and use the Falcon as a decoy, and then get
the princess and the plans to the rebels, without ever letting them
know that they know where they are...* When the rebels are attacking, why can't the Death Star just do tractor beams and fitz out the fighters that way? In
case it's not obvious, I am rewatching the STAR WARS movies - it's been
about 5 or 6 years since I've seen the original. Fascinating watching
it in the context of having just rewatched PHATOM and CLONES and the
cartoon CLONE WARS. They are actually doing a little better with the
continuity than I would have given them credit...* C3PO, for
example, in the original doesn't know what planet he's even on - he
says as much. He even says that he's not very good with stories. I
still have to wonder how he's unaware he's back on his home planet or
even recognizing Beru & Owen after 20 years (even if it was a brief
meeting, he was still there)* The discussions of the corruption of the senate and dissolving it ring more true now;*
While not as dramatic as the other light saber duals, the one between
Darth & Obi Wan does have more power now that we've gotten to see
more of the subtext... *
Both Luke and Han say the "I've got a bad feeling about all of this..."
- so, even back then, they were beating that hack line to death... * "Thanks the maker...!" - C3PO's line is funnier now* The moment when Obi Wan lies about Annakin/Darth Vader to Luke actually is more  I
still am curious why R2D2 doesn't fly around anymore; how come Obi Wan
ages 30 years in only 20 years; how Obi Wan has no memory of R2D2 or
C3PO; why Obi Wan vanishes in a puff; I do hate the changing of when
Han killed Greedo;  why is that when Luke says to Leah that "Ben
Kenobi" is with him, she knows who he's talking about and says "Ben
Kenobi!"Maybe some of that will be cleared up by "Sith." 
While I'm busy pondering, though, I'm also curious about the
"XP-38" that Luke talks about putting his speeder obsolete, or what the
"new VT-16" that the troopers are chit-chatting about. And are the
Storm Troopers still the Clone Troopers, or eventually did other people
get to join (?), because it just doesn't seem that they are as swift as
the Clones were.All of that said - I love the original "Star
Wars" and see it standing the test of time. And I really loved "Empire
Strikes Back." A great movie, with or without the context.  Even
Jedi has so many terrific iconic moments, if only they hadn't gone so
cutesy. 
I
also think that the prequels are missed opportunities; I wish
Lucas had given us something we don't already know; how great would it
be if they had made Annakin "Darth Vader" at the end of "Episode 2" and
then just give us a completely unexpected "Darth Vader" movie. 
Something to bridge the distance of time between "Darth" becoming
"Darth" and Luke coming into his own, with the Empire getting stronger
and stronger, and the last of the Jedi fighting to their death, and the
rebels going into hiding... 
More of the fall of the Jedi. 20 years between "Episodes" is just too much, especially when most of the others seem tighter. 
 

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HBox

05-04-2005, 04:28 PM

I usually don't buy into this
"Stop targeting kids with marketing!" crap, but when you go and say
something isn't for kids, and then spend your own money promoting it to
kids, I think it's hypocritical and irresponsible. It's still
ultimately the parents responsibility, but he's trying to get kids to
see something he doesn't think they should see. 

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badorties

05-04-2005, 06:30 PM

* When they escape in the Falcon, Princess Leah says that it was too easy and that odd are they are tracking them; so, knowing this, they still fly right to the rebel's hideout?! WTF? Why wouldn't they rush somewhere - change ships - and use the Falcon as a decoy, and then get the princess and the plans to the rebels, without ever letting them know that they know where they are...* When the rebels are attacking, why can't the Death Star just do tractor beams and fitz out the fighters that way? 01 - i believe han dismisses her statements ... she kinds of capitulates saying that she only hopes they can utilize the info that r2 has ...02 - probably the same reason you can't run the hairdryer and the microwave at the same time ...

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curtoid

05-04-2005, 07:16 PM

B.O. - Thanks for summing that up into something I can live with. 
 quote:I usually don't buy into this
"Stop targeting kids with marketing!" crap, but when you go and say
something isn't for kids, and then spend your own money promoting it to
kids, I think it's hypocritical and irresponsible. It's still
ultimately the parents responsibility, but he's trying to get kids to
see something he doesn't think they should see. 

 
 I agree 100%. Sure
- i would personally love a a PG-13 "Episode III," but (as much as I
want to pretend otherwise) STAR WARS should be movies that are
accessible to children as they are the adults who first got into them
as children 25 years ago. ESPECIALLY because of the relentless
marketing towards the kids that made Lucas richer than Oprah - for te
love of Yoda, you can not have the ordered middle chapter in this
soap opera suddenly be something only for the big people, but then
finish off the entire series with Ewoks in the last Chapter. Actually, come to think of it, the entire scarttershot approach of who each movie is for is kind of annoying:Episode 1 - For Little KidsEpisode 2 - For ChicksEpisode 3 - For Adults and Big BrothersEpisode 4 - For old peopleEpisode 5 - For Film Scholars and buddhistsEpisode 6 - For Little kids The
"Darth Dew" Big Gulps at 7-11, the "Darth Vader Mr. Potato Head" and
the "Dark Force Darth Dark Chocolate M&Ms" is just much. 

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 04:33 AM

quote: It's still ultimately the parents responsibility, but he's trying to get kids to see something he doesn't think they should see.   I agree that it's the parent's responsibility. But I think he's really just trying to sell toys, I don't blame him. He makes more money off the Toys and stuff than the films themselves. Don't buy the toys if you don't agree with what Lucas and company are doing.If the movie contains stuff that is not suitable for little kids, wouldn't it be irresponsible of Lucas and Fox not to warn people?  Just think of what would happen if Lucas made Episode III a "kids movie" like Episode I or VI:They'd have to gloss over the bad things that Vader does, which were told to Luke by Obi-Wan in 1977, so you couldn't have Anakin not "help the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights." and leave the Jedi "all but extinct" You see a bunch of Jedi in Episodes I and II. Would you all be happy if they were all killed off camera or out of focus like the jedi who died in the battle at the end of II? Killing that many jedi is going to be messy.Also Anakin has to become deformed in oder to become "more machine now than man. Twisted and evil." You want that to be off camera as well?If Lucas had this stuff happen off camera after telling us about it 28 years ago (or having this stuff happen between Episodes III and IV) star wars geeks would riot.If parents have kids who shouldn't see PG-13 movies, then they shouldn't take them to Episode III. They have had 28 years of warning that the stuff that happens to Anakin isn't pleasant. You should not have let them see the first 2 films if you can't tell them the 3rd film isn't for them.I expected Episode II to be much darker, I was actually hoping he'd become vader during II and III would be a film featuring Vader in his Black suit doing some kick ass Vader shit that would have been hard to do in the late 1970's early 1980'sI see nothing wrong with Lucas marketing stuff toward kids, their parents didn't have to buy that shit, and their parents should know better. They should have already been familar with Star Wars, if they weren't all they'd have to do is watch the original film and listen to Obi-Wan, that's less then 30 mins of research and the PG-13 rating talk (which started a long time ago) would have confirmed it.Again, Fuck the kids! I wish Episode III was rated R.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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TheMojoPin

05-05-2005, 05:43 AM

You can get mad all you want, but "Star Wars" still won't scare anyone, not even little girls, with its cartoon violence and predictable outcome.No, wait...strike that.  George Lucas' dialogue terrifies EVERYONE.

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Furtherman

05-05-2005, 06:34 AM

Typical day at work. Rebel Alliance remains at large. Tomorrow I may strangle General Veers.<a href="http://darthside.blogspot.com/">http://darthside.blogspot.com/</a>

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 06:57 AM

quote: <a href="http://darthside.blogspot.com/">http://darthside.blogspot.com/</a> "I did my famous corpse of Mace Windu imitation, which made Fett snort wine through his nose. "This party's over," I quipped, and Fett howled. Long ago Windu was First Speaker of the Jedi High Council, a fierce warrior who slew Boba's father and tried to kill my master. In vain, of course. These days the Emperor uses Windu's purple light-sabre to trim his hedges."Star Wars Fans have way too much free time... 

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05-05-2005, 07:01 AM

quote: You can get mad all you want, but "Star Wars" still won't scare anyone, not even little girls, with its cartoon violence and predictable outcome. Well, you can't blame Lucas for the predictable outcome. Again, Obi Wan told us all in 1977.And if it won't scare anyone, why is anyone worried about the children? Why don't you all put that energy into protecting the children from Catholic Priests?<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a>  <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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TheMojoPin

05-05-2005, 07:25 AM

We shouldn't protect them from shitty movies?  Or from the fantatics that blindly support them, even as they get progressively worse?

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 07:42 AM

quote: We shouldn't protect them from shitty movies?  Or from the fantatics that blindly support them, even as they get progressively worse? No, we should first protect them from adults who want to fuck them. Then we worry about badly made movies. I don't think they are shitty movies, but they could be a LOT better, very easily.BTW: Here a quick clip of the <a href="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/ROTS-Duel.avi" target="_blank">Anakin/Obi-Wan</a> fight

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TheMojoPin

05-05-2005, 07:46 AM

That was oddly erotic.I think the only way these movies could be truly saved is with a full-on makeout scene between Anakin and Obi-Wan.IT'S NOT TOO LATE, GEORGE!  WOW US WITH YOUR DIGITAL FAGGOTRY!

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 08:10 AM

Reminds me of the Neo/Smith fight in the 3rd Matrix movie, which is not a good sign. The fight itself should be good, like the fight scenes in Episode I. Those few seconds are the only thing I watch from that movie. I should go back and time it, I bet it's about 90 seconds of film (Maul vs both Jedi, Maul vs Qui Gon and then Maul vs Obi Wan)

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bigbaldirish

05-05-2005, 08:44 AM

aww it's cute when anaki8n skips back to fight obi wan after tthe force pushes.

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TheMojoPin

05-05-2005, 08:57 AM

He prances!  He can't wait to slap his shaft against Obi-Wan's again! Why the hell do they spend a few seconds just twirling their swords around like coked-up topperettes?<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=TheMojoPin" border="0" /> 1979 << On the streets of your town... >> "You can tell some lies about the good times we've had, but I've kissed your mother twice...and now I'm working on your dad..."

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GodsFavoriteMan

05-05-2005, 09:10 AM

quote: He prances!  He can't wait to slap his shaft against Obi-Wan's again! Why the hell do they spend a few seconds just twirling their swords around like coked-up topperettes?Lightsabre fan service.  I'll admit it, I'm a sucker for all things lightsabre, it's the main reason I love Star Wars.  

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HBox

05-05-2005, 09:18 AM

Let me clarify. I don't
believe that Episode 3 should be kid friendly. It should be whatever
the fuck Lucas wants it to be, it's his movie. But if he's going to
make a film he says is inappropriate for kids, he shouldn't be doing
this kind of marketing.I personally think the movie will be fine
for most kids to see. But I'm judging from what Lucas said and what
he's doing. He said one thing shouldn't happen, and then he spends
shitloads of money in an attempt to make it
happen. 


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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 09:41 AM

George isn't holding a gun to anyone's head. Don't buy the toys if you don't like what he's doing.According to Time Magazine. Lucasfilm has made $9 Billion on merchandise (for all the films since 1977) and Episode III cost $115 million ($0.115 billion) Marketing and printing is costing them $95 million for the film (I'm not sure if that is just advertising for the film or how much of that is being paid by Fox who distributes the film but didn't pay for the making of any of the films since Empire Strikes Back)

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HBox

05-05-2005, 09:52 AM

I'm not even talking about the
toys. I'm talking about Dark Jedi M&Ms, Darth Vader Slushees and
Episode 3 children's cereal. Like I said, it's still the parents
responsibility, but Lucas said his movie isn't for kids, and then tries
to get kids to see it. 

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 09:57 AM

No, he's trying to get kids to buy M&Ms, Darth Vader Slushees and Episode 3 children's cereal. He makes his real money from that stuff, not the films. There are other people involved who want to make money as well, it's not all Lucas.My point is, he's being up front with his feelings about the film. he could just say "Yeah, it's PG-13, but it should be okay for kids anyway, be sure to buy your tickets early!"I just wish he could write a decent movie, or be able to hire his teacher again (Irving Kershner was Lucas's film school teacher and direct Empire Stikes Back)<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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HBox

05-05-2005, 10:02 AM

No, he's trying to get kids to buy M&Ms, Darth Vader Slushees and Episode 3 children's cereal.He's
not trying to sell those things. Those things are marketing programs.
The only people making money off of those things selling are Mars,
7-Eleven and whatever company is making that cereal. 
 

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 10:32 AM

quote: He's not trying to sell those things. Those things are marketing programs. The only people making money off of those things selling are Mars, 7-Eleven and whatever company is making that cereal. yeah, Lucasfilm isn't making anything off of items that feature Star Wars. I guess Kenner is the only company making money from the figures. And Playskool is the only company making money from that Potato head.And I suppose ©Lucasfilm LTD appears on every one of those items because all these companies just got together and decided to print that on for fun.And if your point is that Lucas isn't making money off those items targeted toward kids, then why are you saying Lucas is targeting kids? Shouldn't you be upset at 7-11, Mars, and Kellogs?Star Wars (The Films) has made nowhere near 9 billion dollars. Lucasfilm has made that from merchandiseThe Films are made to justify the toys (and other stuff) Lucas doesn't care if kids see the movie, but he'd love to have them buy the stuff.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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curtoid

05-05-2005, 10:57 AM

Marketing IS "The Dark Side." And if there is anything worse than marketing, it's marketing that targets children.HBox is 100% right in all of this - parents do have the ultimate responsibility, however Lucas comes across as a hypocrite when he makes a movie with Wookies, Droids, Darth Vader and Yoda, and then says it's NOT for kids, but - by the way - the little ones can still give him money for the toys with their likenesses on it, and then wait until it comes out on DVD and sneak a peak then. Bullshit. It forces responsible parents into being the bad guys in this.What it comes down to is that the movie is not the end product anymore - they are simply putting out movies to sell and license the garbage.

GodsFavoriteMan

05-05-2005, 11:19 AM

The point of Lucas saying that little kids shouldn't see this is to promote the fact that this movie will appeal to adults.  In a nutshell, he's pandering to the Episode I haters.  This marketing is being taken too seriously.  Lots of PG-13 movies have been marketed to kids because PG-13 encompasses every demographic.  It's not so bad that kids can't see it without a parent, but it's not so light that adults will feel shortchanged (by lack of violence or whatever). Take what Lucas says with a grain of salt.  If there's one thing he really knows, it's marketing.  The man is a consumate salesman, recognize that everything he says is a sales pitch.

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Doctor Manhattan

05-05-2005, 11:29 AM

And stop worrying about the fucking children! What is wrong with people these days?

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fezident

05-05-2005, 01:11 PM

To be fair... not ALL toy & candy marketing is directed at very young children.  Lucas stated that the movie IS safe for a 9 or 10 yr old but probably NOT ideal for a 5 year old.  9 year old boys (and older) DO play with toys...collect comics...play video games...and eat candy.  I can't BELIEVE that I'm actually defending GL because I truly do hate what he's done with the last two episodes (and the horrid special editions) but...in THIS particular instance...I don't think he's being hypocritical.  The EpiIII demographic is "10 and older" and he's marketing directly to that demo.  And it's not like he can do any product placement in the movies themselves so, he'd doing it right out in the open.If there was a "PG-10" he probably would've used that rating.PG13 doesnt mean kids under 13 simply shouldn't see the movie.  It merely means that, as a parent, you should give it some thought.  Some kids are total pussies, ya know?  

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HBox

05-05-2005, 02:26 PM

quote:
yeah,
Lucasfilm isn't making anything off of items that feature Star Wars. I
guess Kenner is the only company making money from the figures. And
Playskool is the only company making money from that Potato head.

 

 

I Already said I wasn't talking about the fucking toys!

If
Lucas is making anything off these marketing deals with 7-Eleven and such, it
isn't much and it certainly isn't dependent on how many slushees he
moves. It's just another way to market, to get the word out more, to
get more commercials out there, to make sure wherever you look or go
that you see "Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith"

If all this stuff
was just to make money, you'd see it all the time. Why do you think
this stuff just pops up right before the movie comes out, and will
disappear right after the movie is released?

 

quote:
And
if your point is that Lucas isn't making money off those items targeted
toward kids, then why are you saying Lucas is targeting kids? Shouldn't
you be upset at 7-11, Mars, and Kellogs?


 

My point is obvious. I've said it again and
again, and I'm not fucking talking in riddles here. I don't give a shit
about the kids, it's just hypocritical and irresponsible for Lucas to
say kids shouldn't see the film and then go and try to get them to see
it. That is what this is all about. Selling toys is fine. He never said
his toys werent for kids. He said the movie isn't, and then he turned
around and did all this shit to promote it that is aimed squarely at
children!

 

quote:
To be fair... not ALL toy
& candy marketing is directed at very young children. Lucas stated
that the movie IS safe for a 9 or 10 yr old but probably NOT ideal for
a 5 year old. 9 year old boys (and older) DO play with toys...collect
comics...play video games...and eat candy.


 

That's a good point. I saw Lucas say many
times generally that kids shouldn't see this, but I never saw him
specify ages. 


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05-05-2005, 02:32 PM

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05-05-2005, 06:28 PM

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Doctor Manhattan

05-06-2005, 03:33 AM

quote: I don't give a shit about the kids, it's just hypocritical and irresponsible for Lucas to say kids shouldn't see the film and then go and try to get them to see it. That is what this is all about. Selling toys is fine. He never said his toys werent for kids. He said the movie isn't, and then he turned around and did all this shit to promote it that is aimed squarely at children! That's cool, I didn't see the seperation you're making between the Toys/collectibles and the other stuff (like Food items with Star Wars on them) I saw it all as one big mess of marketing to make money. As I said before (and curtoid stated as well) the movies are there just to justify selling all the other crap.How about this idea: Lucasfilm is using M&M's, Slurpees and Cereal to market the Video Games, Kenner Toys and Lego sets to kids. But the movies have to be there to justify it all.Are kids really into Star Wars? I'm really into it, but only see other people my age buying toys, or watching the films.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank">"Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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badorties

05-06-2005, 06:25 AM

a very interesting, personal review from harry knowles ...<a target="_self" href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20157">STAR WARS EPISODE III: REVENGE OF THE SITH</a>REVENGE OF THE SITH is a masterpiece. The final piece of the puzzle Lucas first presented me at age 6. 27 years later, the Jigsaw is complete and damn if it isn't just damn near the most tragically cool thing I’ve ever seen put to film. We won’t see another like this. This is it.Remember – this isn’t a Star Wars movie to cheer for, to erupt into applause and call cool. If you really love STAR WARS – this one is heart ache. Not only is it the end of a nearly 30 year journey for us… It really is the story of how things got so bad, that the good guys had to be a rebellion, where the Jedi had to hide and how evil ruled the galaxy. Wow, I’ve seen my last new Star Wars film. Fuck.

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Doctor Manhattan

05-06-2005, 06:52 AM

That fat fuck goes ape shit over anything."We won’t see another like this. This is it." well, not shit. This is the last Star Wars movie (according to Lucas currently, he may change his mind again...)

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GodsFavoriteMan

05-06-2005, 06:59 AM

Harry Knowles also loved Episode II.  If he still professes to love Episode II, his opinion is meaningless.  If he hates Episode II (like, it seems, everyone else does) then his opinion is worthless.

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05-06-2005, 07:35 AM

Harry Knowles gave a glowing review of Godzilla.         Yeah. 

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Doctor Manhattan

05-06-2005, 07:52 AM

quote: Harry Knowles also loved Episode II.  If he still professes to love Episode II, his opinion is meaningless.  If he hates Episode II (like, it seems, everyone else does) then his opinion is worthless.  When was his opinion worth anything? I don't really understand why his site is so popular, I guess he got it up an running early on...<a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=12260" target="_blank">Here's his review of Episode II</a><a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=3624" target="_blank">And Harry's review of Episode I</a> He states that he loved Episode I and he loved Jar Jar:quote: But.... Guess what? Mesa Luved Him! When I first read Jar Jar’s scenes I was terrified because.... well whenever Jar Jar did something, I imagined the solitary focus being upon Jar Jar. That is not the case. There are other people, creatures, things going on at the same time. Not only that... But, I saw something in Jar Jar today that... well, I didn’t expect to see.   quote: I’m going to see this film alot. But now, more than ever, I’m dying to see LORD OF THE RINGS. And... I’m dying to see this one.... again. It’s Star Wars. And I love it. No excuses, that’s just the way it is. Go.... Have fun.... be a kid again....<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a><a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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GodsFavoriteMan

05-06-2005, 08:04 AM

I know Kevin Smith went ga ga over Episode III, but what were his feelings on the other prequels.  TheForce.net has their reviews and they gushed, but then, they gushed for Episodes I and II, also.  Where are all the skeptics?  Were they invited to the screening?

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Doctor Manhattan

05-06-2005, 09:11 AM

<a href="http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Why_Im_Boycotting_Episode_III_92090.asp" target="_blank">Why I'm Boycotting Episode III</a>I'd put up some money for anyone who gets evidence that "Nic" saw the film.

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booster11373

05-06-2005, 10:06 AM

DONT BELIEVE THE HYPEI have been diappointed to many times when it comes to the Star wars movies. They are no longer the movies I feel in love with as a child. When i want to show good movies to the children in my family it will no longer be the Star wars trilogysThat being said of course i will see this movie but im not going in with any expectations and im sure i will leave dissapointedHary Knowles is as credible as a Japanese journalist

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booster11373

05-06-2005, 10:24 AM

Lucas has marketed everything<a href="http://alienware.com/Starwars_Pages/teaser.aspx">http://alienware.com/Starwars_Pages/teaser.aspx</a>

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Doctor Manhattan

05-06-2005, 11:28 AM

<a href="http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Parents_Guide_to_Revenge_of_the_Sith_92098.asp" target="_blank">Parent's Guide to Revenge of the Sith</a>contains spoilers.

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05-11-2005, 10:31 AM

<img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/sith.gif" border="0" />Yeah, it's an old joke. But I saw this on fark (<a href="http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1474430" target="_blank">photoshop contest</a>) and thought that 3PO looking around before he does it was cute...<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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Doogie

05-16-2005, 09:08 AM

Alrighty, I have just finished the Book of Ep III (I wont be able to see it the opening days cause of my work schedule and silly drill), and if the movie is a tenth how graphic the book is, wow!! This will be one of the best. I have to include a spoiler here. It involves a scene when Bail Organa gets to the Jedi Temple while it is being 'purged'.SPOILER (from the novel)The Scene is Bail Organa noticing the Jedi Temple is on fire and lands demanding entry....Bail set the speeder down only a few meters from the deck entrance and hopped out. A squad of clone troopers stood in the open doorway. Smoke billowed out from the hallway behind them.One of the troopers lifted a hand as Bail approached. "Dont worry, sir, everything is under control here.""Under control?? Where are the SER teams? What is the army doing here?""I'm sorry I cant talk about that, sir.""Has there been some kind of attack on the temple?""I'm sorry I cant talk about that, sir.""Listen to me, Sergeant, I am a Senator of the Galactic Republic and I am late for a meetiing with the Jedi Council-""Im sorry the council is not in session, sir.""Maybe you should let me see for myself."The four clones moved together to block his path. "Im sorry, sir. Entry is forbidden.""I am a Senator-""Yes, sir." The clone sergent snapped his DC-15 blaster from his shoulder, and Bail, blinking, found himself staring into its blackened muzzle close enough to kiss it. "And it is time for you to leave, sir."A burst of blasterfire ripped through the smoke and scattered into the dawn outside. Bail stared with an open mouth as a Jedi flashed out of nowhere and started cutting down clones. No: not a Jedi.A boy.A child no more than ten years old, swinging a lightsaber whose blade was almost as long as he was tall. More blasterfire came from inside, and a whole platoon of clones came pelting toward the landing deck, and ten year old was hit, and hit again and then just shot to rags among the bodies of the troopers he killed, and Bail started backing away, faster now, and in the middle of it all, a clone wearing the colors of a commander came out of the smoke and pointed at Bail Organa. "No witnesses," the commander said. "Kill him!!"END SPOILER

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05-16-2005, 09:27 AM

Wow, Doog. Chills, just chills.

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booster11373

05-16-2005, 09:35 AM

Biggest plot hole in star wars?I just watched Empire strikes back last night. Heres what i found, the scene where Luke is leaving Yoda and Ben to go save Han and Leia.Ben That boy boy is our last hope...Yoda No there is another...Now wasnt Ben there for the birth of the twins, Doesnt he know Luke had a sister, Has Ben (obi won) gone senile?

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Doogie

05-16-2005, 09:41 AM

Now wasnt Ben there for the birth of the twins, Doesnt he know Luke had a sister, Has Ben (obi won) gone senile?I think he was refering to the fact that Leia doesnt know that she is of Skywalker lineage yet. She has been trained in the diplomatic arena while Luke has been bred for being the perfect Jedi weapon to combat the Sith. Yes there is a reference that will be made to this sometime in Ep III.

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fezident

05-16-2005, 09:45 AM

Booster,I've often asked the same question that you are asking.  What does that exchange between Obi and Yoda even MEAN??!  Who is the "the other" that Yoda is referring to that Ben DOESN'T know about??  It can't be Leia, right?  I mean...Ben was there for their birth AND was responsible for seperating them and hiding from Vader (and each other).  We're dealing with a writer whose idea of filling a plot-hole is simply to add the line "what I told you was true...FROM A CERTAIN POINT OF VIEW." EDIT: I kinda/sorta see what you're saying DOOG but, it's a stretch.  Leia is strong with the Force and if she WAS going to learn how to use it...Ben would be aware of that.<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/tucker71/fezident.jpg" border="0" /> "I'm looking for the 'Make Believe Ballroom'....Don't get fresh, Buddy!"

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Doctor Manhattan

05-16-2005, 09:55 AM

quote: Now wasnt Ben there for the birth of the twins, Doesnt he know Luke had a sister, Has Ben (obi won) gone senile? And this plot hole has nothing to do with the prequels, Lucas wrote these two movies(Empire and Return of the Jedi) within 3 years of each other and <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/name/nm0001410/">Lawrence Kasdan</a> helped with the screenplay on both films.Of course if Lucas was thinking of making Leia a Skywalker kid, then he wouldn't have her kiss Luke at the beginning of Empire.

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05-16-2005, 10:03 AM

quote: I think he was refering to the fact that Leia doesnt know that she is of Skywalker lineage yet. She has been trained in the diplomatic arena while Luke has been bred for being the perfect Jedi weapon to combat the Sith. Yes there is a reference that will be made to this sometime in Ep III. Luke wasn't trained until he met with Obi-Wan, he was a farm boy. His training wasn't ideal, but was the only thing that could be done.He becomes a jedi knight once he faces Vader, this happens 4 years after meeting Obi-Wan and starting his training. Yoda said that he isn't a jedi until that point.Most jedi spend their whole lives training to become Jedi Masters, Luke wasn't bred for it, but had it in his genes, so does Leia. I think she becomes a jedi in some of those Star Wars books (Luke starts a new jedi order to rebuild the Jedi, since he's the only one living at the end of Return of the Jedi) 

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East Side Dave

05-16-2005, 01:01 PM

Spoiler:Anakin becomes Darth Vader.

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Furtherman

05-16-2005, 01:07 PM

WHAT?!  East Side Dave raped my childhood!  The white text trick cannot stop curiosity!!

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East Side Dave

05-16-2005, 01:08 PM

Spoils: Yoda is green.

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Furtherman

05-16-2005, 01:10 PM

Oh bantha poo!  Is there anyway we can stop East Side Dave from ruining everything!?!? 

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East Side Dave

05-16-2005, 01:11 PM

Spoilage:Ewoks are a little gay.

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East Side Dave

05-16-2005, 04:03 PM

Right now there's some Star Wars special on Discovery. Threepio's bein' all gay and chatty as usual and- what the fuck is this little thing? Jesus, America has fat children!!!!

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East Side Dave

05-16-2005, 04:09 PM

What the shit kinda Star Wars special is this?!?! <a href="mailto:F@*$&^!!!">F@*$&^!!! </a>

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Doogie

05-17-2005, 07:35 AM

Luke wasn't trained until he met with Obi-Wan, he was a farm boy. His training wasn't ideal, but was the only thing that could be done.Yes but Luke was put into the same environment as Anakin, sans being a slave. He was put into a situation to want to better himself, remember he wanted to go to the Imperial Academy on Carida. His environment also had him where he had learned fighting skills, although they were necessary to survive attacks by Tusken Raiders. He was being bred to want to escape from his environment, to be better than what he was. Which made him perfect to be a Jedi Warrior that could combat the Sith. SPOILER: The Jedi's problem in the Old Republic's was they had trained to fight the Sith a thousand years before, while the Sith had trained and learned and increased in power. Hence why Yoda is unable to beat Palpatine/Sidious in Ep III. So the disbandment of the Imperial Senate, the rise of the Rebellion and the arrival of the droids made it the perfect time to tune Luke into that Jedi Warrior. Something the knights of the old Republic werent prepared to do.

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Doctor Manhattan

05-17-2005, 08:27 AM

I'm sorry, I thought you meant his training was ideal. I see your point. I'm just saying his training was rushed, so much so that it doesn't make sense (unless you accept that he's actually the chosen one, Qui Gon was off by a little)Actually, Anakin's training was a bit rushed as well. That's why he failed to beat Obi Wan and why he was tricked by Palpatine.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /></a> <a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a>

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badorties

05-17-2005, 08:39 AM

I'm just saying his training was rushedonly because he quit, against yoda's wishes, to try to rescue han and leia

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Doctor Manhattan

05-17-2005, 09:57 AM

quote: only because he quit, against yoda's wishes, to try to rescue han and leia I'm such a geek. He didn't quit, He came back to finish his training. Yoda said there was nothing more to learn, but he wouldn't be a Jedi until he faced Vader. I'm guessing this was to take place of "The Trials" which they've never really shown or descibed. Anakin didn't go through "The Trials" since he proved himself during the Clone Wars.Now, Where did I put my Vader costume? I'm going to see the movie tomorrow night and I have to make sure the button that calls my mom to pick me up is working correctly.

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booster11373

05-17-2005, 10:12 AM

has Episode 3 been bit torrented all ready?<a href="http://www.cinematical.com/2005/05/16/episode-iii-hits-bit-torrent/">http://www.cinematical.com/2005/05/16/episode-iii-hits-bit-torrent/</a>

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Doctor Manhattan

05-17-2005, 10:35 AM

but I'm sure if you think like a SPY, or HUNT for it, you'll figure it out. I don't understand the "Hunt" reference but I think I get the "Spy" reference.

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05-17-2005, 11:09 AM

I just saw it.  It was ehhhh....

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05-17-2005, 11:48 AM

quote:  quote: but I'm sure if you think like a SPY, or HUNT for it, you'll figure it out.  I don't understand the "Hunt" reference but I think I get the "Spy" reference.<a href="http://www.xmradio.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://members.cox.net/nicksporsche/Passion2-01.jpg" border="0" /> "Let He Who is Without Sin Kick the First Ass!"</a> I can't get there from work, but I think one of the torrent site I use is something like ISOhunt-dot-something.

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